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Are you ignoring the warning signs your body is sending you? In honor of Men's Health Month, Sway sits down with renowned cardiologist Dr. Joseph Daibes and mental health therapist David Webber to discuss why men often wait until it is too late to seek medical help. This eye-opening conversation explores the physical and mental hurdles that keep men from living their longest, healthiest lives.
In this episode, we break down the silent killer known as hypertension and how it affects different communities, particularly African American men. Dr. Daibes shares expert insights on the importance of preventative screenings and early detection, while David Webber explains the direct link between chronic stress, anxiety, and heart disease. Whether you are a high-performance athlete, a long-haul truck driver, or just someone looking to improve your daily habits, the advice shared here is essential knowledge.
Key topics include the role of genetics in heart health, the importance of sleep hygiene, and how to build a transparent, two-way relationship with your healthcare provider. We also take calls from listeners sharing their own survival stories and health challenges, proving that being proactive is the ultimate sign of strength. Do not let the macho stigma stand in the way of your future.
Chapters
0:00 Intro and Men's Health Month
3:15 Why Men Avoid the Doctor
6:40 Understanding Hypertension The Silent Killer
10:20 The Role of Genetics in Heart Health
14:10 Anxiety and Its Physical Impact
18:30 Overcoming the Macho Stigma in Healthcare
22:45 Health Advice for Truck Drivers and Road Warriors
26:15 The Importance of Partners in Men's Health
30:00 The Dangers of Self-Diagnosing and Supplements
34:20 Building a Strong Patient-Doctor Relationship
38:10 Healthy Habits for Men in Their 20s and 30s
41:30 Sports Stress and Mental Well-being
44:34 Final Thoughts and Resources
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I want to say,
0:01
um, congr- I'm proud of all the men who
0:04
who answered the call.
0:05
>> For real, though.
0:06
>> Like a few moments ago, I asked men to
0:07
call up. You know, right now we're, um,
0:10
talking about we're putting the focus
0:12
on, um, heart and mental health
0:13
awareness month, you know, which is
0:15
every June for men. I didn't know this,
0:17
either, Heather. I didn't know this. I
0:19
didn't know that June was the official
0:21
month for men's mental health. And I
0:23
wanted to put out a call to a lot of men
0:26
who are dealing with hypertension, high
0:28
blood pressure, um, sugar, you know, in
0:31
your blood, cholesterol, stress,
0:34
um, lack of sleep, sleep deprivation,
0:37
um, all of these different things, our
0:38
diets, all these different things that
0:40
are affecting our health, especially as
0:42
we get older. And I thought it would be
0:44
fitting,
0:45
um, I think it's befitting to have this
0:47
uh, man as a guest on our show today.
0:50
Let me give you some of his accolades,
0:51
Heather B, as I'm sitting here reading
0:53
it.
0:53
>> Yeah.
0:54
>> Founder and president of New Jersey
0:55
Heart and Vein, six-time board-certified
0:57
interventional cardiologist,
0:58
interventional cardiologist at Lenox
1:01
Hill Hospital, assistant professor of
1:03
cardiology, specialist in cardiovascular
1:05
disease prevention and early detection,
1:07
expert in heart disease, hypertension,
1:09
cholesterol management, and vascular
1:11
health, advocate for men's health
1:13
awareness and preventative screening.
1:15
Ladies and gentlemen, we have the one
1:16
and only Dr. Joseph Davis is in
1:19
[screaming] the house.
1:20
>> Impressive.
1:21
>> In the house.
1:22
>> In the house.
1:23
>> He ain't got no salt in his hand,
1:25
nothing like that that's going to affect
1:28
your blood pressure. Dr. Davis, welcome
1:30
to the show, man.
1:32
>> Thank you, Heather and Sway, for having
1:33
me.
1:34
>> Yeah, you look healthy, too.
1:35
>> Happy to be here.
1:35
>> Yeah, man, happy to have [laughter] you,
1:37
man.
1:37
>> Happy to be here.
1:38
>> Yeah, man. Um, first of all, where are
1:40
you from?
1:41
>> From Jersey.
1:41
>> Jersey?
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>> Northern New Jersey.
1:43
>> Oh, Northern New Jersey, represent.
1:44
>> Yes.
1:46
>> Your your your field of study is very
1:48
specific, man. Like, when they when they
1:50
say expert, you truly are that, right?
1:52
>> It's a lot of training. We, uh,
1:54
experienced it, and uh, you know, the
1:56
the mission out there is to help people,
1:57
men and women
1:58
>> Uh-huh.
1:59
>> Uh,
2:00
>> prevent disease first and foremost, and
2:02
then if they need help, we intervene on
2:04
the disease and we fix it.
2:05
>> All right. Well, I want to I want to get
2:07
straight to it. Heart disease is the
2:09
leading cause of death among men, right?
2:11
>> And women.
2:11
>> And women. Why do you think
2:14
um
2:14
knowing this, why is it that enough of
2:16
us as men, what have you found to be the
2:19
reason that we don't go to the doctor?
2:21
>> a very very big point, right? Something
2:23
that we have to hammer home. Especially
2:25
every month, but especially this month,
2:26
June is men's health month.
2:28
In the sense that men wait for something
2:30
to go wrong to go to the doctor.
2:32
Uh women tend to go for more
2:33
preventative care generally, but men
2:36
wait. They we spend more time worrying
2:38
about other things in our life, whether
2:40
it's we're too busy with work or
2:42
providing for our families or what
2:43
whatever it may be.
2:45
And some men have a I'm going to say a
2:46
quote-unquote macho idea of oh, I'm
2:49
fine. I don't need to go to the doctor.
2:51
>> Mhm.
2:51
>> But in reality, one in two men
2:55
especially African-American men
2:56
>> Yeah.
2:56
>> suffer from, for example, hypertension,
2:59
high blood pressure without even knowing
3:01
it. It's a silent killer.
3:02
>> Mhm.
3:03
>> Right? So, they wait till something goes
3:04
wrong, whether they have heart disease
3:05
or kidney disease or or something with
3:07
their brain or what may what what it may
3:09
be,
3:10
they wait to get checked out until
3:12
something is wrong. And they it should
3:14
be the opposite. We should be more
3:15
proactive rather than reactive.
3:16
>> Well, let let me ask you this because
3:18
I'm a person who um
3:20
I eat fairly decent, right? I eat
3:22
decent. I'm aware of, you know, I'm very
3:24
cognitive cognizant of what I put in my
3:26
body.
3:27
Um I'm fairly athletic,
3:30
right? You know.
3:31
>> I'm surprised you didn't give yourself
3:32
more credit because
3:33
>> in front of a doctor, YOU KNOW.
3:34
>> [laughter]
3:42
>> I'M FAIRLY I'M AVERAGE ATHLETIC, and I
3:45
walk around and I
3:46
Thank you. I appreciate that, Dr. uh
3:49
Davis. Am I saying your name right?
3:50
Davis, Yeah.
3:51
>> Yep, um Davies.
3:53
I feel great.
3:55
But, Heather and I, maybe a year ago or
3:58
so, went to get some work done on our
4:00
mouth.
4:02
Right? And I was getting implants done.
4:04
And
4:05
the doctor, before you know, she took,
4:07
you know, going to does the work, they
4:09
take your blood pressure. And she took
4:12
my blood pressure and said we have to
4:13
wait.
4:14
I said, "Why? What are we doing? What
4:16
What do we got to wait for?" And she's
4:17
like, "No, your blood pressure is
4:19
spiking. It's it's high." I thought it
4:21
was the white coat syndrome.
4:23
>> Sure.
4:23
>> Right? And I'm like, "Ah, it might be
4:24
white coat syndrome." Right? So, she
4:26
gave me some pineapple juice and we
4:28
waited about 10 minutes and
4:31
it went down a little, but it wasn't
4:33
where it needed to be.
4:35
>> Blood pressure is the silent killer.
4:37
>> I had no idea, bro.
4:38
>> So, unless it's very, very, very high,
4:40
most people don't feel it, right? And
4:42
then over time, it's like having high
4:44
pressure on the pipes in your house or
4:45
in your car. Over time, it wears away
4:48
the the pipes and the organs that it's
4:49
going to feed. And that's when we start
4:52
having problems with our heart, you
4:53
know, early signs of dementia, liver
4:55
disease, kidney disease is a big one.
4:57
>> Uh-huh.
4:57
>> And so, over time. And that's why going
4:59
to your doctor regularly, even when you
5:01
don't feel like you need it at a younger
5:03
age, helps these things from happening
5:06
later on in your life.
5:07
>> Uh-huh. And so, you're walking around
5:10
and we have these symptoms.
5:12
We don't even know what are the
5:13
symptoms, though.
5:14
>> Exactly.
5:14
>> So, what should we be looking for?
5:17
>> Anything, really.
5:19
But for blood pressure, headache,
5:21
sometimes people get blurry vision,
5:22
shortness of breath when they're walking
5:24
up down the stairs, chest discomfort. It
5:26
can really be a myriad of bunch of
5:27
different things that can happen. Um but
5:30
with hypertension specifically, it
5:32
affects men more than women. Uh
5:35
it affects African-American men more
5:37
than any other race. And uh
5:40
um
5:41
it's very much treatable, right? It's
5:42
very, very much treatable, which is the
5:44
best part, right?
5:45
>> Yeah.
5:45
>> So, weight loss, diet, avoiding salt,
5:48
sleep apnea is a big one, right? Sleep
5:49
hygiene is is, you know, the new fad now
5:52
everybody's talking about because we're
5:54
realizing that when we help our sleep,
5:55
the same way as we brush our teeth or
5:57
shower in the morning, sleep hygiene is
5:59
really important. You should be getting
6:01
8 hours of restful sleep at night, not
6:03
snoring or waking up gasping for air,
6:05
right? I'm sure, you know, a lot of
6:07
people are doing that and not even
6:08
knowing.
6:09
>> Yeah.
6:09
>> And these things over time lead to
6:12
stress on your heart and on the rest of
6:14
your body. So,
6:16
being in your 30s and being in your 40s,
6:18
you feel fine. I'm good. I don't need
6:20
anything. But that's the time to get
6:21
checked out because when you get 50s and
6:22
60s and 70s,
6:24
at that point, you already made the
6:25
damage.
6:26
>> Uh-huh.
6:26
>> Right? So, then we're reacting rather
6:28
than than being proactive.
6:29
>> Is it reversible?
6:30
The damage?
6:31
>> Most of the time it can be, right? You
6:33
know, medical care and you know, medical
6:35
advances is are I've been amazing,
6:37
right? It's A lot of things we can
6:38
treat. But but but why have to treat it
6:41
if we can if we
6:42
>> If we could prevent it.
6:42
>> prevent it from happening, right?
6:43
>> Do you have to take pills?
6:45
>> You may, but not necessarily. It
6:47
depends, right? First things first is
6:49
going to be lifestyle modifications,
6:50
right? Diet, exercise, sleep hygiene
6:53
like I just told you about. But if you
6:55
need to take pills, you need to take
6:56
pills, right? And and it may not be
6:59
lifelong, it may be lifelong. That's
7:01
between you and your physician and
7:02
depending on everybody's specific story,
7:04
right? But even if you do,
7:07
taking pills is better than having a
7:08
heart attack.
7:09
>> Mhm.
7:10
>> Or having some serious sudden
7:11
devastating issue that's going to happen
7:12
to you. With number one, it's going to
7:14
be devastating to you and your family.
7:16
God forbid, you know, you die.
7:19
And number number two is is it's going
7:21
to be way less expensive for you in the
7:23
in the long run, right? Prevention is
7:25
much less expensive than intervention
7:28
later on.
7:28
>> Mhm.
7:29
>> And that's something that is is
7:32
not everybody understands, right? That
7:34
you may have to Yeah.
7:35
Even the insurance companies may not
7:37
understand it, to be honest.
7:38
>> Yeah.
7:38
>> In the sense that if they give a a bit
7:40
more money up front for preventative
7:41
sake, they'll they'll end up spending
7:43
less money later on when when
7:47
>> Mhm.
7:47
>> when it hits the fan.
7:48
>> hit the fan. Uh Dr. [clears throat]
7:50
Davies is here. 888-742-3345.
7:53
I want to give out your Instagram now
7:55
cuz the phone lines have lit up, but not
7:57
everybody's going to be able to make it
7:59
to the phone lines. If people want to
8:00
reach you, how can they reach you on
8:01
Instagram otherwise?
8:03
>> You can reach uh our practice at
8:04
@NJHeartandVain
8:06
or my Instagram at @Dr.Davies. D R D A I
8:10
B E S.
8:11
>> D R D A I
8:13
>> B E S.
8:14
>> B E S. Uh we got Ramel on the line.
8:17
Ramel, welcome to the show.
8:18
>> Hey Ramel. My neighbor's name is Ramel.
8:20
>> Good evening. First time caller. Hello.
8:22
>> We got a first time
8:23
>> We got a first time caller, man. Give it
8:24
up for this guy, man. He's all right.
8:26
>> [music]
8:28
>> Talk to us, Ramel.
8:30
>> Listen, I'm I'm listening to what he's
8:32
saying and I'm getting a lot of
8:34
information. I'm 52 years old. Um I'm in
8:37
really good shape. My family has a
8:39
soccer school. So I'm playing soccer.
8:41
I'm always
8:42
active. And we went overseas for a
8:46
tournament, came back
8:48
to do the test and everything. My blood
8:50
pressure was 215 over 113.
8:54
I felt good. I mean, I felt really good.
8:57
I didn't feel like uh headaches or
9:00
anything like that. And man, um they
9:03
treated me like I was about to pass out
9:04
right there.
9:06
And I didn't understand the urgency. I
9:08
didn't understand why everybody is, you
9:11
know, wanting me to sign papers that I
9:12
want to leave and everything. And what
9:15
they want to do is throw me on medicine.
9:17
Nobody's telling me what's going on.
9:19
They took my blood, everything, and I'm
9:21
still I don't understand what's going
9:23
on. I really don't. And nobody can
9:25
explain to me but just take this
9:26
amlodipine. And and that's it.
9:29
>> It's a very, very common thing. Thanks
9:31
for calling. It's a very, very common
9:32
thing that happens, right? And again,
9:34
silent killer. her. to keep saying that,
9:36
right? We don't always have to have
9:37
these devastating symptoms, right? So,
9:39
blood pressure is is is a real thing.
9:43
What I would say for you is to trend
9:45
your blood pressure over the course of
9:46
time, right? It that may have been a
9:48
singular incident, number one. But,
9:50
number two is I would trend your blood
9:52
pressure over the course. What I do in
9:53
my office is I give most of my patients
9:54
that come in a blood pressure log. A
9:56
simple piece of paper, right? It's a
9:57
simple piece of paper that just say I'd
9:59
say take your blood pressure twice a
10:00
day. Just keep it around the same time,
10:02
maybe in the morning, maybe around
10:03
dinner time. Take it and let's see what
10:05
the trend is, right? That may have been
10:07
a one-off. But, in reality, it probably
10:10
wasn't, right? For you to actually mount
10:11
a blood pressure of that high, you most
10:13
likely have hypertension. A lot of it,
10:15
even though you're in shape and eat well
10:17
and play soccer and do everything right,
10:19
may very well be genetic, right? And
10:20
that's a big part of health, right? Is
10:23
genetics. And I always joke around with
10:25
my patients because
10:25
>> I was told that that it could be, you
10:28
know,
10:28
>> Very much genetic, right? So, I tell
10:30
people they come in and I take care of a
10:31
lot of, you know, endurance athletes and
10:33
elite athletes and and
10:34
and and very well-to-do people who have
10:37
private chefs and gym twice a day and,
10:39
you know, they're doing everything
10:40
right. And they're like, "Why am I sick?
10:41
Why is this happening?" So, I say thank
10:43
your parents and your grandparents and
10:44
your uncles and your aunts and everybody
10:45
else that came before you because they
10:46
passed this down to you, right? And it's
10:48
it's true, right? So, genetics we can't
10:50
really beat genetics, right? But, what
10:52
we can do is know that it's going to
10:54
happen so we're able to treat it in
10:55
advance. And again, prevent the bad
10:57
stuff from happening. And we live in a
10:59
great time right now because these are
11:01
these are things that our parents did
11:02
not have,
11:03
right? So, our parents and our
11:05
grandparents didn't have technology,
11:07
right?
11:08
You know, you say, "Oh,
11:09
Uncle Ed, you know, died at 50 and just
11:12
dropped dead. We don't know why. He had
11:13
a heart attack." But, now, you know,
11:15
people are we able to get these tests in
11:17
advance. So, when you went to the
11:18
hospital and they ran this barrage of
11:20
tests on you, they were probably looking
11:21
for different signs, right? So, what I
11:23
would recommend to you is you go to your
11:25
doctor, get a get a blood pressure log,
11:26
see how your blood pressure has been
11:28
trending, and then look for other signs
11:30
of why your blood pressure is high cuz I
11:32
mean if you're telling us that your
11:33
diet's good and everything else is good,
11:35
there's going to be something else
11:36
that's causing it. And the issue is that
11:38
a lot of times, I know we're we're we're
11:40
talking a lot about blood pressure now.
11:42
Most of the time we don't get an answer
11:43
as to why it's happening, right? And
11:45
that's that's the truth, right? So, a
11:47
lot of times we go, "Why is this
11:48
happening? Why is this happening?" A lot
11:49
of times we don't have an exact answer,
11:51
but that's okay. As long as we're able
11:53
to treat it and bring it down and make
11:55
you make you better.
11:56
>> Uh-huh. Man, man, Dr. Davies is here,
11:59
man.
12:00
>> I'd like to come there. What's your I
12:02
want to come there because I I like what
12:04
you're saying and that I just the thing
12:06
is I don't think the doctors are taught
12:08
how to really sit down and talk to
12:10
someone. It's it's just so cut and dry,
12:12
take this medicine or you're going to
12:14
die. You know what I mean? I I just
12:16
you I appreciate
12:17
>> Yeah, the explanation is really
12:18
important, right? And and in in health
12:20
care these days, and not to get uh
12:23
political, whatever it may be, but
12:24
health care these days being pushed,
12:25
pushed, pushed, pushed, pushed, and the
12:26
doctor's under a lot of stress, so they
12:28
don't have a lot of time
12:29
I'm not saying with me, but a lot of
12:31
times generally in health care to sit
12:33
down and have that that 45-minute
12:34
conversation, right?
12:36
When in reality, health care is the most
12:38
important thing, right? I mean, people's
12:39
health. [clears throat] When you don't
12:40
have health, you have nothing, right?
12:42
You can have everything in the world.
12:44
And you don't have health, you have
12:45
nothing.
12:46
Come by. Come by anytime you need.
12:47
>> Where where you located?
12:48
>> Uh we have multiple offices. Our main
12:50
office is in Clifton, New Jersey.
12:51
>> What's it called?
12:52
>> New Jersey Heart and Vein.
12:54
>> Go check them out, man. Hey.
12:55
>> In Clifton. Yeah, in Clifton, Romel.
12:57
>> Give us a call.
12:58
>> Romel, we hey, we
12:59
got your back. Appreciate you, man. I'm
13:02
glad you called, man. You a
13:03
>> Romel, let them know you heard him
13:04
swaying in the morning, so you don't
13:05
remember.
13:06
>> Maybe he'll give you a
13:07
Maybe he'll give you a discount.
13:09
>> Insurance is insurance, Sway. Stop
13:11
playing.
13:11
>> I just thought [laughter] I'd throw that
13:12
in. You're a citizen, Romel. I just
13:14
thought I'd throw that in. All right.
13:15
All right. We got uh we got uh B in
13:18
Milwaukee. Hey, B.
13:19
>> B.
13:20
>> Yeah, what's going on? Good morning.
13:22
>> What's happening, man? Welcome to the
13:23
show.
13:23
>> Yeah.
13:24
Yeah, thank you. Um yeah, so I'm 42, um,
13:27
you know, and uh,
13:28
you know, sometimes it's hard for me to
13:30
differentiate like
13:32
changes that I'm getting older to health
13:34
issues.
13:36
So, like the coping mechanism that I do
13:38
is I just ignored it. You know, and and
13:40
I have already existing anxiety, you
13:42
know, from my family court issues, you
13:44
know, with placing my son, whatever. So,
13:46
I'm like, is this anxiety that's
13:47
bringing on this these changes or is it
13:49
something different? So, what I decided
13:52
to do this year was, uh, take some time
13:53
out, you know, and really start paying
13:56
attention and taking care of my health,
13:58
you know, to alleviate that part of the
14:00
anxiety because I was concerned, you
14:01
know, that different things were wrong,
14:03
what have you. So, um, I went to the
14:04
cardiologist recently. Um, I went to the
14:06
urologist recently. Um, I'm going to go
14:09
to the endocrinologist actually
14:11
Wednesday. Um, but, um, but, uh, with
14:13
the cardiologist, um, and I'm I'm going
14:16
to be I'm going to be straight up like I
14:17
eat junk food. I eat junk. But, um, you
14:20
know, I feel like I'm more active than
14:21
most. But, um, you know, he gave me the
14:23
stress test. You know, that was all
14:25
good. Um, he did, um, he did a, uh,
14:27
blood pressure in each of my extremities
14:30
um, cuz I noticed that there was some
14:31
hair like disappearance in the bottom of
14:33
my legs, you know, um, things like that.
14:35
And, um, that was all good,
14:36
surprisingly. And, um, he did a CT scan.
14:40
And, um, my calcium score he said was a
14:42
13. So, I guess for my age, gender, and
14:45
race,
14:46
70 or I have 75% more plaque
14:50
than others of my age, but he said I was
14:52
not in the really be concerned about
14:54
right now. And then, um, I think my LDL
14:57
was high and my non-HDL, is that what it
15:00
is? That was also high, a little bit
15:02
high, but he said there was really
15:04
nothing to be concerned about.
15:05
>> Looks like you got a good workup. Uh,
15:07
so, shout out to your cardiologist. I
15:09
mean, this is stuff that I would do,
15:10
too.
15:11
>> Mhm.
15:11
>> Um,
15:12
I think the first thing you said is, you
15:14
know, you're feeling anxious. Uh, I
15:15
think the mental health part is really,
15:17
really important here.
15:18
And we can we can weigh in on that. I
15:19
think there's a stigma out there,
15:20
especially with men.
15:22
Uh, we're all strong, we're macho, we
15:23
can't have any mental health problems,
15:25
we can't have anxiety, we can't have
15:26
depression, we just got to
15:27
deal with it, right?
15:28
>> Absolutely.
15:29
>> Uh
15:31
and that's that's a load of baloney to
15:32
me, right? Because it's it's it's that,
15:35
you know, mind They always say mind over
15:37
matter, but the mind's really important,
15:40
right? The mental health problems, the
15:42
anxiety, the depression, the all of
15:44
those all all of those those things can
15:47
directly impact your physical health,
15:49
right?
15:49
>> Mhm.
15:50
>> You can get palpitations, you can get
15:51
your blood pressure going up. We keep
15:52
talking about blood pressure, but so
15:54
many physical ailments can be brought on
15:57
by by mental health ailments. So, number
15:59
one, you know, I'm proud of you for
16:01
going and getting everything checked out
16:02
and and getting your mentals in order
16:04
and getting your physical health in
16:05
order, and it's really important. Um
16:07
>> Mhm.
16:07
>> Number two is I mean, you seem like you
16:09
got a great workup from a cardiac
16:10
perspective. And then you said you went
16:11
to the urologist, which is something
16:13
that, you know, it's not my specialty,
16:14
but it's it's really important here. One
16:16
in
16:17
depending on what you look at, six to
16:18
eight men in the United States will get
16:19
diagnosed with prostate cancer in their
16:21
lifetime. Right? Um but most men are
16:24
afraid to go to the urologist because
16:26
they don't want to get examined.
16:27
>> Mhm.
16:28
>> Right? And that's that's that's also
16:29
that's the silly to me, right? It's very
16:31
silly, right?
16:32
>> Mhm.
16:32
>> Um
16:34
>> Yeah, so in regards to the urologist, uh
16:36
the one thing the one thing that they
16:38
did recommend So, I did I did the uh
16:40
imaging of the kidneys and bladder and
16:41
everything. Um I did the uh PSA blood
16:43
test. Um but she had said that she wants
16:46
to do the scope in the urethra.
16:49
I'll be honest with you, I'm scared of
16:50
that. I'm like, you know what? If you
16:51
say everything's good in the imaging, I
16:54
think I'm good with that for right now.
16:56
>> Yeah, but there must have been a reason,
16:57
right? There must have been a reason. If
16:58
you're going to a good doctor, they're
16:59
not going to recommend something that
17:00
that's not necessary, right? I mean, you
17:02
have to trust your doctor.
17:02
>> said she said there could be something
17:04
that was overlooked in the
17:06
>> If they want to take a look, they're
17:07
probably looking for something in the
17:09
bladder, right? That you know.
17:10
They're not doing that for fun. I'll
17:11
I'll just tell you that, right? And I
17:13
know it sounds very
17:15
invasive, especially in a man's
17:17
genitals, right? But
17:18
but it's you're not going to feel any
17:20
pain, right? They're going to numb you.
17:22
You're not going to feel any pain at
17:23
all.
17:23
>> Mhm.
17:25
>> So, don't play doctor. That's what I'll
17:27
say, right? Don't play doctor.
17:29
>> I like that advice.
17:29
>> Because because I don't know what you do
17:31
for a living, but the doctor's not
17:32
[clears throat] telling you what to do.
17:33
>> Yeah.
17:33
>> Right? So,
17:35
you know, for the most part, right? A
17:37
physician, if you go to a good one, is
17:38
going to recommend what's
17:39
guideline-based, evidence-based, and
17:41
what you really need. So, if if they
17:43
want to take a look inside your bladder,
17:45
I would let them.
17:45
>> Let them do it.
17:46
>> Because what is it? 10 minutes?
17:47
>> Yeah.
17:48
>> And God forbid it's something bad,
17:50
you're going to wish a year later that,
17:51
you know, they find a
17:53
a bladder tumor.
17:54
>> Yeah. And you could always take a shower
17:56
afterwards, B, if you don't want nobody
17:57
touching you.
17:58
>> You know what?
17:59
>> All right, B, thank you for your call,
18:00
brother. We appreciate you. You're a
18:02
super citizen, man.
18:03
>> in the morning
18:04
>> We're going to take more calls. Men,
18:05
call up. We're talking about men's um
18:07
heart and mental health awareness month.
18:09
This is the month of June. We got David
18:12
Weathers with us. He's hanging out with
18:14
us. Round of applause
18:15
>> Yes. Licensed mental health therapist.
18:17
>> That's right. And Dr. Joseph Davis,
18:18
who's with us as well. 888-742-3345.
18:23
We'll take your calls. That's
18:25
um our good friend Christopher Reid, aka
18:28
Kid from Kid 'n Play,
18:30
who revealed that he had a heart
18:32
transplant.
18:33
>> I did not know that.
18:34
>> Right? And
18:36
>> Wow.
18:36
>> This is Kid from Kid 'n Play.
18:40
>> Yeah.
18:40
>> And he revealed that he had a heart
18:42
transplant. This is House Party Kid 'n
18:46
Play.
18:46
>> Ola Ola A Kid 'n Play.
18:49
>> Right? And comedian Kid 'n Play. Just an
18:52
amazing
18:53
>> Actor, yeah.
18:53
>> actor Kid 'n Play. Just a talented
18:56
writer and then friend Kid 'n Play. Kid
18:59
from Kid 'n Play. And he revealed this,
19:01
and these are kind of like the the
19:03
hidden secrets we walk around with a lot
19:05
of times that we don't discuss. So, I
19:07
want to commend him for that. And our
19:10
doctor today, Joseph Davis, is here. and
19:12
I saw a video of you actually talking
19:15
about this.
19:16
>> Yeah, I did a video on this on my
19:17
Instagram.
19:18
>> Yes, can you speak to this?
19:19
>> it's really
19:20
interesting, right? I mean,
19:22
Gronk in play. This guy has all the
19:24
resources in the world that he needs,
19:25
right? He's doing well. He's He has
19:27
people taking care of him. And he still
19:29
got sick, right? So, brings back
19:31
genetics, right? I don't know the cause
19:32
of his I don't know his history, right?
19:34
But the you know, it a lot of times
19:36
people go into what's called heart
19:37
failure and it's genetic. This piece
19:39
predisposed to it.
19:40
>> Mhm.
19:41
>> And he went to good doctors and he got a
19:42
heart transplant. That's a huge
19:44
procedure. It's a big deal.
19:46
And
19:47
based on the interview that he did that
19:48
I was watching and all all the
19:50
information that I'm seeing, he's doing
19:52
well, thank God.
19:53
>> Yeah.
19:53
>> And the only way that he knew about it
19:55
cuz he went and got taken care of and
19:57
got checked.
19:58
Right?
19:59
>> Mhm.
19:59
>> You know, he had the smallest amount of
20:01
symptoms. It wasn't anything crazy. He
20:02
didn't collapse. He didn't have this
20:04
catastrophic event that happened.
20:06
He He did it before things got bad.
20:09
And that was how they were able to help
20:10
him. You know, because at some point
20:12
there's going to be a too late, right?
20:13
>> Yeah.
20:13
>> Like yeah.
20:14
>> Yeah.
20:14
>> Damn, you you know, you got this and
20:16
there's not really much we can do.
20:17
>> Yeah.
20:17
>> But he he got it done. He took care of
20:20
himself, right? And he didn't play that
20:22
macho role. I'm going to keep saying
20:23
that. Right? Cuz especially it's men's
20:25
health month, right? That men just they
20:28
don't want to get taken care of, right?
20:30
It's just our last caller. He was like,
20:31
oh, I you know, I don't nothing bad to
20:33
him, but you know, my doctor recommended
20:35
this, but you know, I don't feel like I
20:36
need that or I don't want anybody going
20:37
down there or doing whatever may be.
20:40
You can't be doing that, right? It's
20:41
important. Because if somebody told you
20:43
you need new tires in your car, you
20:44
wouldn't question it.
20:45
>> Yeah.
20:46
>> Right? You wouldn't question it.
20:47
>> Right.
20:47
>> That's true. That's That's an
20:48
interesting point. Dr. Davies here. I'm
20:50
going to take one or two calls. I'm
20:51
going to take it to New York. And also,
20:53
I'm going to see if David Webb could
20:54
chime in cuz we are talking about mental
20:57
health awareness as well as
21:00
uh we're talking about our heart
21:01
awareness uh and we have
21:04
Let me see.
21:07
We have I want to go to one of our our
21:11
biggest constituents here at SiriusXM.
21:14
If it weren't for them, our our drivers,
21:16
those who drive every single day
21:18
>> Yes. Yeah.
21:19
>> there would be no this company would not
21:21
exist. So, I always give them first
21:23
priority. DeAngelo's on the line, one of
21:25
our road warriors
21:25
>> Oh, yeah.
21:26
>> from Orlando from Orlando. What up, D?
21:28
How you doing, man?
21:29
>> Hey.
21:30
>> Hey, fam. How y'all doing? How y'all
21:31
doing?
21:32
>> Hey.
21:33
>> Great, man. Morning, brother. How you
21:34
doing?
21:35
Yeah.
21:36
>> All right. What's your question for the
21:37
doctor?
21:39
>> Um question
21:41
I would say this, man. I'm a truck
21:42
driver.
21:44
I used to do flatbed, which I was a lot
21:46
active then. I'm doing dry van. Um I put
21:49
on a lot little a little bit of weight,
21:51
but when I put my clothes on, I still
21:52
feel good.
21:53
>> Oh.
21:54
>> you said, you know, it's a it's a silent
21:55
killer.
21:57
Um you know, my girl, she's on me
21:59
a thousand a thousand percent on on
22:03
going to the doctor, as you said
22:04
earlier. And I'm I'm like what you said,
22:06
you know, that macho, I got it. I'm
22:08
good. But, I realize that my blood
22:10
pressure has been up a little bit and
22:11
just trying to figure out what things I
22:13
could do
22:14
as a truck driver, you know, dealing
22:16
with the stresses of everyday, you know,
22:19
not getting the sleep I need. And I
22:21
think I do have sleep apnea, as you
22:24
mentioned earlier. So, that's another
22:26
issue as well. So, just trying to figure
22:28
out what I can do, man, to just prolong
22:30
my year make my years longer,
22:32
you know, while I'm here, bro. Just
22:34
>> You said you said a lot of really
22:36
important things here, right? So, we're
22:37
going to we're going to break this
22:38
apart. Number one is thank you for
22:40
calling. Number two is you're a truck
22:41
driver. You spend long time sitting down
22:43
in the car. So, number one, sedentary.
22:46
So, being sedentary for these long haul
22:48
rides is is is not that is not good for
22:51
you, right? So, what I do recommend is
22:52
that when you do stop, right? When you
22:54
do stop to go to the bathroom, walk
22:56
around the parking lot. Get get your
22:57
steps in.
22:58
>> Got you.
22:58
>> Try to get as much steps in as possible.
23:00
Get some exercise. Number two is your
23:01
diet while you're on the road is really
23:03
important. We take care of a lot of
23:04
people that are truck drivers in our in
23:06
our practice, right?
23:07
And what they always say is, you know,
23:08
we're eating on the road, we're eating
23:09
fast food, we're eating Burger King,
23:10
McDonald's. And nothing against them,
23:12
right? But but it's
23:14
it's not good for you.
23:14
>> Yeah.
23:15
>> You know, all the they'll drink a lot of
23:17
caffeine, a lot of sodas try to stay
23:18
awake for these long haul rides. Number
23:20
two, that's not good for you. That's not
23:21
your diet.
23:22
Number three, something very interesting
23:24
here is
23:26
truck drivers have a higher incidence of
23:28
skin cancers
23:30
along the left sides of their body. Why?
23:33
Because the window is there.
23:34
>> Uh-huh.
23:35
>> Their arm is there and they got a higher
23:37
incidence of basal cell melanoma on the
23:39
left side of their body. So,
23:40
>> Wow.
23:40
>> what I recommend always to my truck
23:41
drivers is go get your skin checked out.
23:43
Go see the dermatologist. At least go
23:44
see your primary care doctor and let
23:45
>> I've never heard that.
23:46
>> It's amazing, right?
23:48
Cuz you're sitting there all day long.
23:50
Your your your hands are up. Your your
23:52
hands resting on the window. You're just
23:53
getting sun exposure.
23:55
And so, that's really important. And
23:58
then the last thing he was saying was
24:00
sleep apnea. It's really incredible how
24:02
sleep hygiene, sleep apnea has a direct
24:04
effect on the rest of your health. So,
24:06
it's
24:07
So, I would guarantee it to him that if
24:08
he got his sleep apnea under control, he
24:10
would start losing weight, he would feel
24:11
better, his blood pressure would go
24:12
down.
24:12
All the above. It's got kind of like a
24:14
domino effect.
24:16
And then one more thing he said, "My
24:17
girl is pushing me to go to the doctor."
24:19
This is an important part. [laughter]
24:21
No, this is an important part. Hear me
24:22
out. Hear me out, right? So, I do a lot
24:25
of prevention, but I'm also an
24:26
interventional cardiologist. So, when
24:27
somebody's having a heart attack and
24:28
they're dying, right? They call me to
24:30
come into the hospital in the middle of
24:31
the night to take care of them. Right?
24:33
So, I'll get to the hospital. It's 3:00
24:34
in the morning, 2:00 in the morning. The
24:36
guy's sitting there ready to get his
24:37
procedure and I'm going to go meet him.
24:39
And the first thing he tells me, this
24:40
happens all the time. Bro, I'm so I'm a
24:42
young guy. They all want to be my
24:44
friend. Bro, I'm so sorry that I had to
24:45
wake you up. My girl made me come in.
24:47
And I'm looking at him like you're a
24:49
bozo. You're having a heart attack.
24:52
Right? What do you mean you're you're
24:53
I'm sorry my girl made made, you know,
24:54
made me come in here. You're lucky your
24:56
girl made you come in here because if
24:57
she didn't, you'd be dead at home. You
24:59
wouldn't wake up in the morning.
25:01
Right? So, there's actually a study by
25:02
the American Heart Association that
25:04
shows that
25:05
married men or men that are in
25:07
longer-term relationships
25:09
actually do better from a health
25:10
perspective.
25:11
>> Cuz the girls are getting on their
25:12
nerves.
25:12
>> There's multiple reasons, but yeah,
25:13
[laughter] mostly the girls are getting
25:14
on their nerves and making them go to
25:16
the doctor.
25:17
>> I'm about to go buy a ring. I don't know
25:18
who [laughter] I'm going to give it to,
25:19
but damn it, I'm about to go buy a ring.
25:21
>> But there's some truth to that. There's
25:22
some truth to that, right? So
25:24
I'm going to I'm going to put out a
25:25
challenge to all our ladies out there.
25:27
You know, push your guys to go see go go
25:29
see the doctor because it's going to
25:30
keep them around longer if you want to
25:31
keep them around longer.
25:32
>> There you go, Dr. Davies is here. Hey,
25:34
D, do those do those things, D.
25:37
We We got your back. You're a super
25:39
citizen, man.
25:40
All right. Uh David Webb, I see you
25:43
sitting there. Did you want to chime in
25:44
because the correlation between mental
25:48
health and physical health are very
25:50
obvious right now.
25:51
>> Yeah, for sure. I was thinking as he was
25:52
talking about all the clients that I
25:54
meet, especially men, who kind of blow
25:57
off stress.
25:59
Like it's part of part of our job, part
26:02
of our purpose is to be stressed out,
26:04
take care of our families, and if you
26:06
have to work a little bit longer and
26:07
you're going to be a little bit more
26:08
stressed out that that's fine, it's part
26:09
of life. And so, I'm sort of interested
26:11
on the medical side in terms of what
26:14
does stress do to our physical bodies.
26:16
>> Yeah, there's a direct direct
26:17
correlation to this, right? Stress in
26:19
that sense, right? When you're stressed
26:20
out, your sympathetic nervous system is
26:22
high. And we've all heard of cortisol
26:24
and epinephrine and adrenaline.
26:26
Could you imagine that going high for
26:29
long periods of time, right? Your heart
26:31
beats faster, your pressure goes up,
26:33
more drama, more impact and trauma to
26:37
the blood vessels in your body, right?
26:38
These blood vessels are what's feeding
26:39
your organs, your kidney, your liver,
26:41
your brain. So, over time, over the
26:44
course of years, the stress, the not
26:46
sleeping, the anxiety, all of these
26:49
things all put them together will then
26:52
lead not just mental health, but
26:54
physical health detriments. And that's a
26:56
that's a may there's a there's a direct
26:58
correlation there. Right? So, I know you
27:00
probably see it all the time.
27:01
>> Yeah.
27:02
>> And it's hard to to to
27:05
to convince them.
27:06
>> Yeah, they don't they don't believe that
27:07
it does something to the physical body.
27:09
And so
27:09
>> It's not separate. It's not separate. I
27:11
mean, you know, we're going to keep
27:12
pushing that it's not separate. Mental
27:13
health and your physical health are
27:14
directly related, right?
27:15
>> Wow.
27:15
>> And even on the other side, right?
27:16
People with physical health problems for
27:18
one reason or other may then develop
27:20
mental health problems because of
27:21
depression because of it or you know,
27:23
health anxiety, right?
27:24
>> Yeah.
27:25
>> We see it all the time. If somebody has
27:26
a heart problem, an actual heart
27:27
problem, and we save them, we get
27:29
through them, then for years after that
27:31
they they're anxious. Anytime their
27:33
heart rate goes up or anytime they feel
27:34
any little twinge or any any it may
27:36
be, they they they don't feel good. And
27:39
and and they start getting anxious about
27:41
it, right? So, keeping both those things
27:42
in check equally important.
27:45
>> All right, we got Jonathan from DC on
27:47
the line. Jonathan, welcome to the show.
27:48
We got David Weber Dr. Davies are here.
27:52
Uh you have a question.
27:53
>> Hey, hey, what's up? What's up? How you
27:55
all doing?
27:56
Okay.
27:58
Uh
27:58
coming out of the house one night, had
28:00
to grab something out of the car, and I
28:01
came back, I was a little short of
28:02
breath, and
28:04
um I started Googling my symptoms. Like
28:07
I said, oh, it says take something
28:09
called NTXD, something like that. So, I
28:12
took it the next day as I was coming
28:13
home from work, and I'm a driver as
28:15
well,
28:16
and 2 minutes later, I'm having a
28:18
full-blown heart attack. Now, I've I've
28:20
had some blood pressure, you know,
28:23
uh you know, making sure that I take the
28:25
medicine and stuff like that. Take like
28:27
it was only like two pills at that time.
28:29
Um had the heart attack, and I remember
28:31
going into the doctor, the guy that kept
28:33
saying, "Hey, man, don't let me die. I
28:34
have kids. I have kids."
28:36
And uh thank God for Washington Hospital
28:39
Center and what I mean for Washington
28:40
Hospital and the Washington Hospital
28:42
Center saved me, and I kept saying, "If
28:45
I come out of this, I'm going to do
28:46
better,
28:47
eat better, even though I slack because
28:49
every once in a while a brother needs a
28:51
steak and cheese. But,
28:53
besides that, um
28:55
I have I have not been to the
28:57
cardiologist as regular and um I'm kind
29:00
of getting away from my doctor cuz he's
29:01
been not that good and dependable. So,
29:04
how often should I follow up with these
29:06
uh with the cardiologist from there?
29:08
It's been like 2 years now, but it's all
29:11
I take a couple of different medicines,
29:12
maybe four or five different medicines.
29:14
Uh they're all like minimum dosage.
29:16
Um but when I read something online, it
29:18
says these are the things that I should
29:19
stay away from. So, I'm I'm very
29:21
confused about what should I take and
29:22
what I shouldn't take.
29:24
>> All right, there's a couple things to
29:25
unpack there.
29:25
>> Yeah, yeah, there's that there is.
29:27
>> Yeah, yeah.
29:27
>> [clears throat]
29:28
>> Um
29:29
I'll try to remember everything here.
29:30
So, number one is I'm glad you did well
29:32
and you uh you you survived your heart
29:34
attack and that the doctors took care of
29:36
you.
29:36
>> Yeah.
29:36
>> Number two is you need to trust your
29:39
medical team, right? If you don't trust
29:41
your medical team, there's a lot of
29:42
doctors out there. Um it's really
29:44
important. You know, I tell my patients
29:46
all the time, sometimes patients will
29:47
not
29:48
I try to be personable and nice to
29:49
everybody. Some people may not want to
29:51
continue with me. That's fine. It's
29:53
okay. Just go see somebody.
29:55
Go see somebody that's trained and board
29:56
certified and evidence-based and legit
29:59
because you need to get your health care
30:02
under control, right?
30:03
>> Mhm.
30:04
>> You already had a heart attack.
30:06
Right? So, it's not about prevention
30:07
anymore. Now, it's about preventing
30:09
secondary prevention. It's about It's
30:10
about not making you get worse and it's
30:13
really important, right? You already
30:14
showed us that that that that you're
30:16
sick and that you have the ability to
30:17
have a heart attack. You're more likely
30:19
to have a second one at this point,
30:20
right? So, so we need to make sure that
30:22
your your medications are under control
30:24
and that and that all of that is uh is
30:26
taken care of. So, my first advice to
30:28
you is to go check up and go see
30:30
somebody. And then your your follow-up
30:32
question after that is how often do I do
30:33
I need to see them? That's really up to
30:35
you and your doctor, right? Depending on
30:37
the tests and the results of what
30:39
happens and they'll be able to uh
30:42
schedule a cadence for you to come back
30:43
and forth.
30:44
>> But what about the Google part? He said
30:46
he Googled his symptoms and then took
30:48
something. What What did you take? NX?
30:51
>> It was some It was something online
30:53
called N T P X.
30:56
And I was like, "Oh, this is going to
30:58
unclog your arteries." So, I'm thinking,
30:59
"Okay, damn. I must have clogged
31:00
arteries and let me just take this."
31:02
>> bringing that up. Thank you for bringing
31:03
that up. Okay.
31:04
>> And and um you know, someone always tell
31:06
me, you know, don't try to play doctor.
31:07
You
31:08
have to be one or the other, the patient
31:10
or the doctor. And
31:11
um that was a big mistake on my part,
31:13
you know, um I eat better, a whole lot
31:15
less salt. I don't sleep much though,
31:18
maybe because of the sometime the work
31:19
hours, but um
31:22
uh eating better no and less salt. Uh of
31:24
course and of course, you know, the
31:25
stress is there.
31:27
Uh and I try to control that. Um
31:30
you know, sometimes that you know,
31:31
situation that I get some bad news,
31:33
sometimes I just say, "Oh, what the
31:35
fuck." And let it roll off me, you know,
31:37
so I don't even let it affect me
31:39
mentally or emotionally because stress
31:42
uh it does that. It's like getting bad
31:43
news and um how do you deal with it all,
31:46
you know, in in in in a short period of
31:47
time, but um
31:49
yeah, you know, thank God I'm better. Um
31:52
and you know, I'm keeping it I'm keeping
31:54
it moving.
31:55
>> So, my advice there is um don't take
31:57
random supplements off the internet. Um
32:00
I'm not knocking supplements. I think
32:01
there's there's a a huge role here for
32:03
supplements and natural ways of doing
32:05
things. You know, I'm not uh you know, a
32:07
pill pusher of any means. Uh I think
32:10
there's definitely ways of naturally
32:11
doing things, whether it's a diet or
32:13
certain supplements if you need the the
32:14
supplementation.
32:16
Um
32:17
but do that under the control of your
32:19
doctor. Because
32:21
the problem with a lot of these
32:22
supplements, you know, just to bring
32:23
this up is that they're not regulated.
32:24
They come from different countries and
32:26
we don't know what's actually in them.
32:27
>> You don't know what's in them.
32:28
>> Right. So, a lot of times you're just
32:29
producing expensive urine, which is
32:31
fine, all right? Cuz you just pee it
32:32
out, but uh other times it could be
32:33
harmful. Um Um, I'll tell you a story
32:35
one time. I had a patient that was
32:37
taking a supplement that came from Peru
32:39
and it had coca in it.
32:40
And she ended up having a heart attack
32:42
because because it became a stimulant.
32:44
And
32:44
>> Wow.
32:45
>> Uh, it was a supplement that somebody
32:46
sent her from Peru and they're like,
32:48
"Oh, this is great for your health,
32:49
great for your health, great for your
32:49
health." And
32:50
she was doing natural versions of
32:52
cocaine
32:53
and didn't realize it. It was really
32:54
innocent. It was a, you know, older
32:56
Hispanic lady. Like, it wasn't it wasn't
32:58
anything that, you know, she was trying
32:59
to do drugs and it affected her big
33:01
time. So, you'd be very careful of these
33:02
things that you know, are are uh how to
33:05
do, you know, unclog your arteries.
33:06
Nothing's going to unclog your arteries,
33:08
right? That's just the
33:08
>> Right.
33:09
>> Yeah. All right, we're we're going to
33:10
fix them, but
33:13
>> Not just going to unclog
33:14
>> miracle workers or, you know, it's not
33:15
going to come in a pill.
33:16
>> Okay.
33:17
>> Um
33:17
>> Dr. David is here. David Webster's here.
33:20
Uh, Mike Mew, would you want to chime
33:21
in?
33:23
>> Yes, I have two things, but uh, first I
33:26
ask David, if you can clarify just a
33:28
little bit. Um, I feel I know what your
33:30
intent uh, but I've heard you a few
33:32
times discuss, you know, your doctors
33:34
knows what's best, listen to your
33:35
doctor. I've heard you say, you know,
33:37
you don't tell your the doctor what to
33:39
do with your job occupation.
33:41
If you can elaborate on that a little
33:43
bit cuz I believe in a two-way dialogue
33:45
>> Definitely. Definitely.
33:45
>> my health practitioner. Um, so if you
33:47
can talk about how to ensure there is a
33:50
two-way discourse cuz just because you
33:52
wear a white coat does not mean, you
33:54
know, everything and you're the
33:55
authority and that the patient should
33:58
not be engaged in that. Now, I've heard
33:59
you mention that a couple of times and
34:00
so, if you can talk to us about how to
34:02
have a constructive discourse with your
34:05
physician cuz I don't want our listeners
34:07
to feel like they have to be subservient
34:09
to medical doctors and their advice. Um,
34:12
I know from personal experience that has
34:13
not been the case. Um, and then the
34:15
second thing is if you can identify two
34:18
or a couple um, lifestyle choices
34:21
um, men in ages of 20s and 30s can make
34:24
that can form habits um, into healthy
34:26
lifestyles knowing nothing is
34:27
guaranteed.
34:28
>> Love that. Thank you. So, So, and
34:30
foremost, uh,
34:32
you know, nothing I I I I didn't
34:34
So, if I came off in the sense that the
34:36
doctor is supposed to be a quote-unquote
34:37
dictator, that's not that's that's not
34:38
the way it works, right? It's a
34:40
physician-patient relationship. It's a
34:42
two-way conversation, right? Um a good
34:46
doctor, and a good doctor's visit, will
34:48
bring the the patient into the
34:50
conversation.
34:51
You know, he'll he or she will put out
34:54
say, "Listen, Michael, this is what you
34:55
have, one, two, and three. This is what
34:57
I recommend we do. What do you think?"
34:59
And you have a conversation in that
35:00
sense.
35:01
Um
35:02
I mean it in the sense that you you you
35:03
should trust your doctor in the sense
35:05
that that they're looking out for your
35:06
best interest. It's your right
35:09
and your duty, actually, to let them
35:11
know how you feel, right? Um cuz it's a
35:14
waste of your time and waste of their
35:15
time and and really doesn't do anybody a
35:17
justice for you to just say yes, yes,
35:19
yes, yes, and then walk out and do
35:20
nothing, right? So, if you if you
35:24
disagree or you want more clarification
35:26
or answers on what the doctor is
35:28
recommending, ask. It's your duty,
35:30
right? It's a It's a It's a paid visit.
35:32
It's a service, right? We're we're in a
35:34
service field, you know, in healthcare,
35:36
actually, right? And that's
35:38
we are here to serve our patients,
35:40
right? And make sure that
35:42
whatever we think is right for them is
35:44
okay. And then if you disagree,
35:46
you have every right in the world to get
35:47
a second and a third opinion. I would
35:49
say don't get, you know, too many
35:50
opinions because then there's too many
35:51
cooks in the kitchen, but but if you
35:53
really want to get a second opinion, if
35:54
you if you have a bad feeling about
35:56
something, do it. It's your It's your
35:58
right to. And that's why you know, we
36:00
have health insurance, and that's why
36:01
we're able to do that. It's It's a very,
36:03
very important thing.
36:04
>> All right. And then the second question
36:06
>> question is the
36:08
lifestyle modifications that you can do
36:10
in your 20s and 30s. This is where all
36:12
This is where all starts, right? You
36:14
know, it's it's it should start in your
36:16
your teens, your 20s, and your 30s
36:17
because once you get to your 40s, 50s,
36:19
and 60s, damage has been done, right?
36:21
You know, 20 years of of of
36:24
of living life. So,
36:26
lifestyle in terms of diet. Okay, diet's
36:29
really very important, right?
36:32
Good meats are okay. Vegetables, fruits,
36:36
balanced diet is extremely important,
36:38
right? The junk food Our caller before
36:40
said, you know, I I would love a What
36:42
did he say? Steak and cheese sandwich.
36:43
>> Yeah.
36:44
>> It's okay to It's okay to have a steak
36:45
and cheese sandwich once in a while,
36:46
right? No one's going to A good
36:48
provider, a good doctor is never going
36:50
to tell you, "Okay, go outside and just
36:51
eat grass for the rest of your life."
36:53
Right? Cuz that's not sustainable. I
36:54
wouldn't do it You guys would not do it,
36:56
right?
36:56
>> Right.
36:57
>> it's it's a it's a moderation and a
36:59
balanced diet, right? If you want to
37:00
cheat once in a while and have that meal
37:02
that you really want, that's okay. But
37:04
for the majority of your week, eat
37:05
healthy, right? Eat smaller meals, eat
37:07
healthy. Number two is limit your drug
37:09
and alcohol intake is really, really
37:11
important, right?
37:12
Um
37:14
Um
37:16
Alcohol, although it's fun and in small
37:18
doses, it's okay,
37:20
>> Mhm.
37:20
>> right? Uh
37:21
>> Wait, hold on. I want to hear that
37:22
again. Go ahead. You said alcohol I'm
37:24
sorry. Alcohol, go ahead.
37:26
>> I need to know?
37:26
>> [laughter]
37:28
>> In small doses, it's okay and very, very
37:31
much moderation, but it's it it over
37:33
time it causes harm to a lot of your
37:35
organs, right? Your liver, your kidneys,
37:36
your blood pressure, all the above. And
37:38
it causes unnecessary weight gain. And
37:40
the third thing, which is extremely,
37:41
extremely important, is being active,
37:43
>> Mhm.
37:43
>> right?
37:44
But what's happening now with the advent
37:46
of social media and computers and
37:47
technologies, people are are spending a
37:48
lot more time, especially in their
37:49
childhood years,
37:51
inside. So, childhood obesity has is
37:54
going through is is going through the
37:55
roof, right? So, when you look at these
37:57
kids that are that are that are
38:00
you know, between the ages of, you know,
38:01
5 and 18, you know, a lot of them are
38:03
overweight and it's because they're
38:05
spending all their time inside watching
38:06
TV or playing video games, right? That's
38:08
where it all starts, right? So, it can
38:10
even start even before what you said,
38:11
before the 20s and the 30s, you know, as
38:13
as children being out there, being
38:15
active, playing sports, running,
38:17
walking, biking, whatever it may be.
38:19
>> Yeah.
38:19
>> Um
38:20
that's really where all the lifestyle
38:22
modifications start because
38:24
it needs like you said it needs to
38:25
become a a habit.
38:26
>> Right.
38:27
>> a way of life, not just a diet or not
38:29
just an exercise plan that you're on now
38:31
cuz those are not sustainable.
38:32
>> Okay, thank you for your question Mike.
38:34
I'm going to let Tracy bring us on with
38:36
the last final question for Dr. Davies
38:40
and David Weber
38:42
and I'm glad we have them both here. By
38:43
the way, both of you are doing
38:45
excellent. So give these guys a round of
38:46
applause. Dr. Davies your first time
38:48
with us.
38:50
This is incredible. Thank you for
38:51
joining us.
38:52
>> Happy to be here.
38:52
>> Uh Tracy G, go ahead take us away.
38:54
>> Yes, this is definitely in tandem for
38:57
Dr. Davies and David Weber. So there is
39:00
a rather unique unique community of
39:03
humans who have spent decades riding the
39:05
emotional roller coaster that is called
39:08
being a Knicks fan.
39:10
>> Oh man, let's [laughter] go Knicks.
39:12
Knicks in four.
39:13
Oh my god. KNICKS IN FOUR.
39:15
THAT'S WHY [laughter] we got here. It's
39:17
mental health awareness month.
39:18
>> I said all of it. ALL OF IT. LIKE I'M
39:21
JUST THINKING ABOUT life long Knicks
39:23
fans. I am rooting for for for the
39:25
Knicks as a die hard New York fan but
39:27
when I think about those Knicks
39:29
loyalists and the lows have been
39:32
devastating and numbing for quite a
39:35
while right? And then of course Knicks
39:37
fans just have this unheard of
39:39
resilience. They keep coming back for
39:41
more and then presently the entire city
39:44
is just in a state of euphoria as we
39:46
head into game three tonight. And so I
39:47
just want to know both of y'all in your
39:50
professional opinions, can you please
39:52
indulge us in the psychological
39:55
psychological and maybe physiological
39:58
advantages and disadvantages of being a
40:01
Knicks fan?
40:02
>> [laughter]
40:04
>> Well, I'm not a Knicks fan so you go
40:06
first.
40:06
>> Long term stress.
40:07
>> [laughter]
40:07
>> Long term stress affects the
40:09
>> David Weber.
40:10
>> David Weber, what's your psychoanalysis?
40:13
>> Okay.
40:13
>> Of Knicks fans. Not you yourself but
40:15
what do you feel like
40:16
>> know I know what you mean. Tracy this is
40:18
what's [laughter] up. I love y'all the
40:19
trait.
40:20
>> You have the same psychoanalysis as the
40:22
Knicks fan. It's worse, I think.
40:24
>> [laughter]
40:25
>> There's going to be disappointment in
40:26
life. There's going to be highs and
40:28
lows, right?
40:29
Um you all got a big game tonight. Y'all
40:31
may win. Y'all may lose. I don't know.
40:33
You know what I'm saying? But
40:34
in these super highs that people
40:36
experience, that euphoria feeling,
40:38
um that's exciting. That's fun. What I
40:40
would say is, how do we have those
40:42
experiences? Now I'm becoming a
40:43
therapist, right? How do you have those
40:45
experiences in your normal everyday
40:48
life? How do you have that type of joy
40:50
in your everyday life? Right? It's not
40:52
always going to be a Knicks game. That's
40:54
every 53 years for y'all. So it's not
40:56
going to always
40:57
>> LET THEM KNOW.
40:58
>> [laughter]
41:04
>> BUT
41:05
>> [laughter]
41:05
>> BUT SO IT'S NOT GOING TO ALWAYS be a
41:07
Knicks game or or Super Bowl or
41:09
something like that, right? How do you
41:10
create those experiences
41:12
in your life? Uh if you struggle with
41:14
depression, for example, how do you find
41:16
ways in your life to to find joy in
41:19
everyday living? Your everyday life,
41:21
your everyday work, your everyday
41:22
relationships with other people,
41:24
building those types of relationships.
41:25
I've been seeing on on TV a lot. Um New
41:28
York is going crazy in terms of the
41:29
communities coming together. Y'all have
41:31
the game on the on the side of buildings
41:33
and those types of things, right?
41:34
Neighbors interacting with neighbors.
41:36
And so that sense of community in your
41:38
everyday life, I think will bring some
41:41
um some joy to your life as well.
41:42
>> I agree with that. I think uh
41:44
can't take it too seriously. It's a
41:45
game, right? At the end of the day, it's
41:46
a game, right?
41:48
So a lot of people really take it to a
41:50
toll where they get physically sick
41:52
>> Yeah.
41:52
>> their sports team loses, right? It's
41:55
I don't know. I'm a big sports guy. I'm
41:56
a really big sports guy. I I you know
41:59
you know, shout out to the Yankees and
42:00
the Giants and the Knicks. But it's it's
42:03
a game.
42:04
>> It's a game, right?
42:05
>> I think the players will tell you the
42:06
same thing, right? A lot of times the
42:07
fans are taking it more seriously than
42:09
some of the players.
42:10
Uh
42:11
so over time, stressing of sports really
42:13
it does affect the same way as stress
42:14
but I mean just have fun. Have a great
42:16
time.
42:17
>> All right.
42:18
>> time.
42:18
>> That's a great question and and then you
42:20
know, there's a lot of delusion in that
42:22
too, right? With the you know, Pistons
42:24
and the Knicks and
42:26
You know, I've seen my team
42:27
>> Warriors.
42:29
Um
42:29
No comment. You see that? Doc said
42:31
nothing.
42:32
>> [laughter]
42:33
>> Yeah, Warriors. I've seen I've seen I've
42:35
seen um Mike Muse he's a Michigan fan.
42:40
And I've seen his team actually I was a
42:42
Michigan I rolled with Michigan this
42:44
year so I've never experienced Michigan
42:45
losing. But I've seen Mike
42:48
>> [laughter]
42:48
>> experience Michigan losing and come on
42:51
air and you would swear that they won
42:54
>> [laughter]
42:54
>> when he brings when he tells his
42:56
narrative of what happened.
42:58
Is that some type of form of delusion?
43:01
>> [laughter]
43:02
>> David Weber, I don't I don't know. Well,
43:03
how do you treat that?
43:06
>> [laughter]
43:10
>> You sure? All right, never mind. All
43:12
right, fellas thank y'all for coming by.
43:13
>> Thank you for having us.
43:15
>> Man, Heather this was a great referral.
43:17
>> Yes, um we have um today in this month
43:20
of June to just start being activated uh
43:23
about your health for men. And uh get on
43:26
board whether it's your your the lady in
43:28
your life, whether you're silently
43:30
dealing with some things and something
43:31
that was said to you today just struck a
43:33
chord with you to say hey, I got to get
43:35
back on track. I got to get healthy.
43:37
It's not easy to do. Uh we all
43:39
understand that but start somewhere.
43:41
Even if it's just like you said Dr.
43:43
Davies walking around your truck,
43:45
especially with our our road warriors.
43:47
Um we're hearing a lot of stories about
43:49
men with blood clots as well. Um I don't
43:51
know if that's coming from being
43:52
sedentary. Um but yeah, get on it.
43:55
Health is wealth.
43:56
>> 100%. Health is wealth. I want to thank
43:58
you both for coming by. David Weber, how
43:59
can they reach you? Yes, reach me David
44:01
Weber _LPC on Instagram. Dr. Davies, how
44:05
can people reach you? A lot of people on
44:06
the phone lines. Jonathan in DC, thank
44:08
you for your phone call. Tiffany in
44:09
Michigan, El Boogie in Chicago. Thank
44:12
you for your phone calls. But, you can
44:13
hit him up directly, right?
44:14
>> @drdavis
44:16
@drdavis on Instagram or @njheartandvein
44:19
or just give us a call.
44:20
>> Okay, NJ Heart and Vein.
44:22
>> .com
44:22
>> And then, Dr. Davis is spelled
44:25
>> d a i b e s
44:27
>> All right, hit that guy up, man. Joseph
44:29
Davis, thank you for coming by. I got to
44:31
give you a call.
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