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Ladies and gentlemen, this week I have a very special guest. I am so excited. Uh if you're familiar with the show, you
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know I've spoken about Gary Wayne and the Genesis 6 conspiracy on probably
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more shows than not. And I always try to mention his book when I'm a guest on
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other shows because it's it was such an eyeopener for me. Uh and I was very pleased I guess early in the year I had
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been on the Grime America show and mentioned his book and then um they messaged me and said, "Hey, we're gonna
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have Gary on." And so I was like, "That's awesome." So, um, that was really cool. This is such a treat for me
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because he is so knowledgeable. He can draw connections because he he
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knows prehistory and history and hidden history so well that he can draw the
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connections that most people couldn't. And so, without any further ado, I'd
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like to uh introduce Gary Wayne. Well, thank you for inviting me to the
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show and uh thank you for the very kind and generous words on the introduction.
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So um I noticed or you know underlined in sort of my mind uh one thing that you
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said there which was wasn't the original goal to do when I set out but as I
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expanded in the writing of the book I learned so much as I started to do more research into you know adding in
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parallel mythoses and mythologies and religions and when I started to get into the
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mythology you have to deal with polytheist religions that go with it.
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And that opened up the doors to the mystery schools
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and the development of the knowledge cult and where that went back to. And
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that started me down rabbit holes that I had never intended on going through, which me meant I had
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to research as much as I could uh to connect the dots. And that's what
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I was really really morphed into from something let's just connect Genesis 6 and giants and demons to the end time to
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something that I wasn't expecting to write. So you know you do your outline for your book and you try and stick to it and all of a sudden somewhere on the
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road to the coliseum it got kind of got hijacked but I think for good for a good reason. So I obviously, you know, was at
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a point where I was ready to start overlaying that onto
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uh the items and the topics that I had researched and what I intended to write
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about. But what I wanted to do once I understood that and it was just it was
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really quite frustrating to organize in my mind and in the files and all these different rabbit holes you're going down
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was is how do you tie this together? How do you tell it so that it makes some sense and it just doesn't look like sort
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of garbled uh rantings of a madman, which you know some people may think anyways, but
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but uh that was the challenge. And so my approach was was is to as I sorted out a
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piece of an information, I didn't put it into the book until I had it sorted out so that I could overlay it right through
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the book. And then I had to write a book in in in you know sort of a chronology
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and a layout that would prevent or invite people to read and continue to read. But understanding it's such a long
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book that if they wanted to go jump forward like a lot of people love
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to do. They like to go through the table of contents and read this and read that that it would still kind of make sense,
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right? So I tried to do every story, every chapter as a mini story so that people could read it out of order and if
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they wanted more information they could more easily go back to the chapter that was coming up because as the book
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unfolds a lot of the information will come up again and again um as the book
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unfolds which is connecting all of those dots in a way that people are reminded
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but not too redundant because there's so much information there's so many details
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that you can't remember everything. So yeah, I do put a little bit of extra
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redundancy in because I understand that people can't, you know, digest all the information. In
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fact, I I I tend to recommend to people is read the chapters as you can digest
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the information because there aren't really any filler sentences or filler
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chapters or filler paragraphs. Every sentence, every paragraph is loaded with
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information. I agree. I tell people keep the book beside your desk if you're a researcher,
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podcaster because it's one of those you're going to continuously go to as you know for a reference because uh I'm
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guilty of jumping around as you as you mentioned just because I was somewhat familiar with a few of the the subjects.
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I couldn't wait to hear what you were saying in there so I kind of cheated and jumped around. But now I keep it beside
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my desk because I'm always like, I think Gary mentioned this book or I think Gary
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mentioned this subject or even this name. Uh, and so I'll go back and look in there. And so I suggest that people
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get that the book because you're going to use it all the time. You're not It's not one of those I'm just going to read
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it. It's one of those oneoffs and it'll look pretty on my shelf. you're going to be wearing the pages out looking at the
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book and that's what and wearing out and wearing out highlighters and uh and and things like that. So I I have a lot of
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people who, you know, tell me that they use it as a reference book so that um
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it'll give them a good base for what they're trying to research on and then they can go forward on that or they can
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really relay the information on. And then what I also hear a lot about is people reading the book two, three,
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four, five times because they find that every time they read they understand
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more and they remember more because again there's just that much more information in it. And so, but what I
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find the most phenomenal thing, and I found it myself, is that if you're doing a second read, you'll appreciate the
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first half of the book way more than you did uh the first read through because
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you already understand the last half of the book and you're seeing the building blocks of that happen in the first part
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of the book. That makes total sense. Yes. Because a lot of the things were foreign to me. Uh, you know, I never
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realized like a lot of people that this this history that the the prehistory,
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the things that led up to present times, I never realized really the u the
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occult, if you will, the all this lost knowledge and and and what these occult
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societies believe and why they believe the things they do. So it it kind of brought so much of why things are the
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way they are today into perspective. Well, it does. It gives you if you
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understand its naance or its beginning and you understand concept that I like
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to talk about actually have a chapter named of it in the book that nothing is new under the sun that everything is
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repeating. It gives you the complete context that you need to know as to what
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those secret societies are doing today, what they're planning, and what the
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language is that they like to talk in. And and you know, whether it's tacetern or it's verbal, it's always there. is
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always sort of in their sort of understanding omniresent in the whole
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culture so that they're continually brainwashing you and reinforcing their messages and doing exactly what they
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want and having you do exactly what they want. So, um they want to keep people asleep. So, it's yeah, so it's important
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to understand the beginning and understand that those goals are
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exactly the same as they were right from the outset. Mhm. And it's amazing that
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the consistency of that desire and that agenda, even though they failed many
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times, they will have an ordaining time where it looks like they then they're going to
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convince a lot of people that they're going to win, but it's going to have the same end result again. But it's the same
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thing that's happened over and over and over and over throughout their generations. People just don't
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understand or recognize the history because we get that superficial history
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that they want to present. We don't get the rest of the story that's in behind
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the meanings and behind the imagery as to how they've recorded that history.
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Yes. And you know, a lot of people think that uh this is another one of those times where they're it's kind of looking
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as if they may win. You know, with all the world events happening, um you know,
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a lot of people have asked me what's about to happen. You know, do you know
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who's going to win the presidency and how this all is going to play out? Of course, I I have no idea. You know,
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everybody has their their guesses. I say never say exactly what's going to happen
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because you may be surprised but um well you always people always are surprised
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by how prophecy is fulfilled and I think the best example of that is you you look
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at all of the scripture that Moses had provided the Israelites
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and then you look at all of the book of the prophets and so the people of the southern
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kingdom, Judea, the ones that weren't exiled and lost into history, but
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actually came back and resettled out of Babylon. They understood their scriptures inside
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and out, as did the Pharisees, as did as did the Sadducees. And yet, they missed
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the coming of their Messiah. And if they with all of that learned
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understanding and preparation and they were looking for the Messiah, they were
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desperate for the s for the Messiah, which maybe was their mistake. Mhm. And
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that would be a lesson I would toss out to modern Christians and and
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and Jewish people is is don't get fooled by prophecy because you have a
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preconceived idea of how it's going to to come about. And
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it's not that you shouldn't study prophecy and I'm a big prophecy buff and I like to understand it. But what I try
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never to do is get ahead of the chronology of events, right? Yeah. And
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that's the big mistake people make and particularly today. So we've had, you
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know, the, you know, the two bushes as being antichrist. We've had Obama as
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being as Antichrist. We've had Trump. We've had all of these other European leaders. And people are pointing all the
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way through. And the thing is is that the occult forces,
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they want to bring on the end time anytime sooner than the ordained time.
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So they're always in preparation to bring it about, no matter how far along the technology is. But God has reserved
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a specific generation and an an ordained time
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and it won't happen until that generation and then those last years
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don't fulfill those last seven and particularly the last three and a half years after Antichrist is crowned. But
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there's going to be a lot of things happening before that point. Obviously that's not going to happen until the
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restrainer is removed. So they can prepare all they want and they'll be
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frustrated, but they will get their time. And that's what I really found interesting about the study of it is
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that they're trying to build exactly what God has given us in prophecy.
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Yes. And so this this is about a contrived plan and an agenda that
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they've come close many times. uh only this point in time it will all but
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destroy the world except that Jesus steps in and prevents that complete destruction.
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Well, I read um kind of goes along with what you're saying. I read in a book called uh Freemasonry and Catholicism by
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Max Heindel. He just says it plainly that they believe that there is a battle
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for the soul of mankind between the uh the Seth and Cain bloodlines. And you,
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of course, Seth being the coming from the priestly shepherd class, and uh Cain
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coming from the worker warrior class, builder class, you know, you can see that you can see that if you look hard
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enough, you can see that battle. And the people that even if they don't know they're in that type of battle, they
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are. They are. And again they're they use their words very very specifically
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to not only talk in double on tandres and encoded messages for the adepts who
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they're they're also speaking to will take deeper meanings because that's basically you know part of the whole
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mysticism aspect but they choose those words specifically for those types of meanings. And what you're saying is
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you'll notice that they'll never say the word spirit. It's always soul. And as a
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Christian, we understand that there's a body, soul, and spirit. And the spirit comes from heaven. They know they can't
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offer what they're wanting uh and or to offer that to anybody else other than
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what they can do within the physical universe, which is where the soul and the body work. So the only thing they're
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able to offer in terms of their religion is is to try and create godhood within the physical realm because they can
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never recreate that in the spirit realm. It's kind of the, you know, goes back to
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uh, you know, the garden and, uh, you know, the serpent tells Eve, "Eat this fruit and you will be like God." And,
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you know, you see that left and right in movies, music. Yeah. Uh, just all
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around. You see it in politics, even though it's not plainly implied. A lot
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of these people seem to think they're godlike in stature. And, um, you know,
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you see that process repeated over and over throughout history. It's just amazing, right? And they're trying to
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reunite what they deceived Adam and Eve into doing, even though they knew Adam
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and Eve couldn't attain that godhood that they were deceiving. What people
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forget about in the whole story is that Adam and Eve were eating from the tree of life, which was giving them
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immortality, but they weren't permitted to eat from. They could eat from all the trees except for one, which was the
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knowledge of good and evil, which the occult likes to call the tree of nosis. and the complete sort of knowledge
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package that went with it. But the serpent says to Eve that surely, you
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know, you're not going to die. You'll be like God, knowing everything because they didn't realize that if they broke
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that one law, they wouldn't have access to the tree of life. Satan knew that
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when he was coaching the serpent to do this. And so they have in the physical
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universe that offer of godhood that is immortality in the physical universe
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with uh unbridled knowledge. And but that wasn't what was offered to
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the atommites, Adam and Eve. He was there to kill them because he didn't
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want humans to be raised above angels in the future time.
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And that's why he's been attacking humankind ever since. And of course, when they move forward with offspring,
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well, then he's going to try and destroy them through Cain uh and having another
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bloodline. And when that's not working to his satisfaction, then he introduces the demigod Nephilim as offspring
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between humans and females which are going to work together in the antid-doluvian epoch along with the
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mystical religions and the secret societies understanding that both are driven from this knowledge of the seven
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sciences that Enoch son of Cain developed that he learned from uh Cain that Cain learned from Adam and then
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that knowledge meshes is with the knowledge of the fallen angels particularly just probably
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just before but by for sure by the time of the creation of the Nephilim. So that all of that is in partnership
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to basically lead the destruction of humankind, right? And all but Noah is
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you ends up being corrupted by the time of of of you know the last hundred years
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and the commission of of Noah to build the ark. And so that's what they were trying to do was corrupt
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humans so that they can't inherit the future and that they could win their
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realm. And they don't want for people taking over that realm that
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they're trying to win. They don't want the descendants of the Sethites, the the son that is born,
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the third son that's born after Abel is killed and Cain is ostracized. They want it for the Canaanites, which they
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believe have survivors into the postvian world, whether or not that's, you know, what we believe or not. and
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the Nephilim which show up as Raphaim after the flood. So it's for those demigods and they also believe in a lot
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of accounts that Cain was uh essentially a giant or his offspring were giant.
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There's a lot of different versions of how that sort of progresses, but they have that sort of mythos about that line
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that they become demigods some way as well in leading the priest class.
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Yes, absolutely. And it's it's amazing to me that uh they've managed to keep so
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much of this hidden from the public. Uh you know, the average person has no idea about this ongoing battle that's going
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on and has went on throughout history. And um you know, they've just I hate to
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say dumbed us down, but they really have dumbed us down. Um and people are not aware of, you know, especially fellow
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Christians, they're not really aware of the enemy. and how uh intelligent and
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how devious the enemy is. And um and that's another thing I love about your
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book because it's opening people's eyes to this other world of all these you know as you mentioned the secret
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societies and the occult belief system that is so prevalent and powerful in the
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background and um you know and it it's even creeped into the church and you
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know you have the the the new age movement which I guess come out of the
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secret societies at least it's l seems to be linked to it and um it's very
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powerful. It seems like it's there's been a resurgence of the new age uh movement even though it may call it
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itself different things now but it seems to be more popular than ever. It is it's just a sort of an evolution used their
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terminology ofnosticism and polytheism and all the different pantheons out of
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the past. And you know, one of the things that is so difficult for people to get their
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heads around is is how could they actually have that much control?
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And I tell them ever since the Nephilim were created
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before the flood and usurped the kingships and then again shortly thereafter ussurped all of the kingships
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and all of the religions. uh they have held the complete nobility
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class amongst their own offspring ever since. So they've had this feudal system in place all the way through. So if we
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look to our history which would be the post-lovian history for the most part we
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see that that happened very quickly after Babel and mysticism is set up in
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Shenar with Nimrod which is Sumer or Mesopotamia and in Egypt and that's the
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religion that's going to operate around around the world and be distributed all around the world even though the
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languages are dispersed and the Raphaim who are the giants after the flood are
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the ones who are going to usurp kingships after the flood. So, they're going to control religion, they're going to control education, they're going to
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control the sciences, they're going to control the army, they're going to control all of society with their
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greater family, their cousins and their nephews, and they're the whole nobility
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class. And that held up to a couple hundred years ago when the rivalries got
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so extreme that a faction of them decided to say
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the only way we're going to get ourselves on track to the agenda that we want is we have to let uh the humans who
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we've been suppressing as the poor um minions that are out there who are just,
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you know, tilling in the soil and providing us with food and we're keeping them in poverty. and we're not educating them. We're going to need to release
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that a little bit so that we can create u in the continents that we want to settle which are going to be South
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America and North America the platform to get us to where we want to go because
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the languages and the rivalries were not permitting that. So as we go
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through history you get a lot of attempts. So you get the beast empires for example as the offspring and with
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them they have the Babel religion right which is why Babel is the end time allegory which is the Inokeian mysticism
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from before the flood and so the beast empires are trying to get this world
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empire put into place with this organizational structure but they can't
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because the technology will only support so far on supply lines and military
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ability. ility to react. So they can't do the whole world. But that whole process goes forward until they change
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their tactic a little bit and say we need to move the world forward with technology and knowledge and then take
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it away from them. Take it away from them by turning them into back into the
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slaves that we want them to be. So that's the process that we're seeing today so they can bring on the new world
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order that I like to call the Nephilim world order. And you can see that uh in the great
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reset and the new normal and all that. And I've been trying to tell people that
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there is, you know, there is a an occult side to a big time occult side of course
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you know to the new world order. A lot of people just see it as an economic thing or a political thing but this has
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been you know working up to their goal their goal for so long. And of course,
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you know, Manley P. Hall talked about the secret destiny of America. Of course, it doesn't just include America,
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but um they want world domination. It is somewhat economical, of course. Uh it's
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about power and prestige and money control. It's political, but it's also
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an occult belief, an occult goal. Well, because the one thing that they
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know is that they need to have the religion in place, which is that universal religion, which is the global
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gnosticism that I will like to call it in the book, because they're assembling this global cosmology, and trying to
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bring home what they believe is all of the religions to the base religion that they all started from both before and
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after the flood. So it's it's the In Noian mysticism, son of Cain. Um that is
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the religion of Atlantis or whatever civilization that you want to refer to before the flood and the religion that
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is refound and restarted at Babel. And this is the religion that rides all of
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the empires and will again in the end time. So the only way they can bring about the new world order is they have
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to bring about this religion and set the table to take over the political nature.
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So they need that as part of that partnership. So if you don't understand the religious aspect of it, you can't
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understand the political aspect of it. And if you don't understand that, you can't understand how and if you don't
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understand bloodlines, you can't understand the secret societies and how that all works in. So unless you
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understand those pieces, you get very very frustrated. And then people, you know, and again, I know people are
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frustrated with like, well, there's so many different organizations, who's in charge of what? And everybody's arguing
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it's this group or it's that group. And that's exactly the disinformation that they want to have. They have a
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hierarchy, but it's not how people generally imagine it. That's Yeah,
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you're right. And I know you've dealt with that. And, you know, just my short time podcasting, I've had people ask me,
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you know, who's in charge? Is it the Masons? Is it the Rosa Christians? Is it the Skull and Bones? You know,
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Bilderberg, this that and the other. And I'm like, it's it's all of it. You know, they all have very similar goals, but
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we, you know, I couldn't tell you who is the top of the tier. We may not even know, right, the the the exact top of
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the tier, and we don't know all of it, but I think we have a pretty good idea.
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But understand this is not the only hierarchal structure because there's a
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hierarchal structure that takes in what I'll lay out a global understanding.
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What we understand today is just the western side of it. It doesn't understand the Chinese aspect of it or
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the ancient America's side of it. But once you understand that they had control of all of the dynasties with
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their bloodlines around the world, the same base religion
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worshiping the same gods only with different vernacular names, then things start to come into focus and that's why
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you need to understand well I think why people need to understand the global aspect of it. But to make it simple,
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imagine a tree that would be an evergreen tree and it has these branches
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that sort of go up and down the trunk is sort of the main sort of hierarchy.
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And as organizations um branch out at the trunk level of that
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organization and hierarchy are controlling all of those organizations in these different branches. Now I won't
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you know it's it's too many to cover off. I'll give the the most important
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names so that people can understand at the trunk level. So at the trunk level is the first level of adapt is third
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degree which is um the York right and the
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Scottish right is the 33rd degree which is a newer version which is just split 11 times. So it's the same steps. Now if
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we understand that that's not the top level of adepthood and we'll use the third degree which is
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which is the old order is that you need to be fifth degree to supervise masonic
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lodges. You understand that there's a hierarchy in place here and so if you're an adept you're an Illuminati. So
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Illuminati is going to be you know three and higher right. So Freemasonry is kind of an introductory
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organization. Uh people not all of them will become adepts. They just want to control a lot. But you have to be
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invited. So you have to have some sort of bloodline um
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characteristic to your physical nature to be invited because they they don't want um sort of non-b bloodlines in
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involved for the most part. Although they'll introduce as long as you're willing to intermar as you go up, which again which is why bloodlines are so
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important. So essentially adept masons will answer to the Illuminati
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as you go up and as you go up you'll have more organizations branching out all around the tree that the Illuminati
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controls and of course Freemasonry adepts have a particular agenda like the
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political nature and uh the army and we see that in the
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history of people like let's say General Washington being in both government and in the army. And I use him because it's a it's a it's a good example of him
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being a mason in what areas he was focusing on. And you have uh the Illuminati who are
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basically what their their role is is to uh affect world government and to
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destroy Christianity. And so both of these two organizations are also infiltrating
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Christianity at different levels. Freemasonry maybe at the lower levels, Illuminati at the priest level and
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higher. Uh and then you also have going up that trunk you have the rosacruian.
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And in the Rossian are 50% pure bloods at the top and and
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graduating adepts coming up. So they're going to be higher than five. They're probably going
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to be minimum seven and higher. But pure bloods are initiated from childhood.
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So they're adepts at a very early age. They can't take adepthood because
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they're too young and sometimes they call themselves 32nd degree adepts
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which is an oxymoron because you have to be 33rd degree to be an adept in the Scottish right.
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It's an allegory saying I'm a bloodline. I am actually higher than third degree or 33rd degree but I can't accept that
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title till I get close to the age of 30. I don't quite pinpoint somewhere over 25
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somewhere under 30 as is as as I understand it. And so the Rosacrruian
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um are going to be operating more of the higher level organizations. So let's say
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as the skull and bones would be a branch that would be extend you being operated into and run by the Illuminati the
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Rosacrruian as those branches lane out would be like the Bilderbergers or perhaps even the club of Rome and then
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all those organizations underneath each of those branches as it goes out right so you understand that trunk and then
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above as you go in the trunk you get to the committee of 300 these are all bloodline families in the west and some
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people say the club of romancers to the committee of 300. But it's either one of the two um or both because you have
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let's say for an example with the Bilderberers you have a pureb blood aspect which is the higher level of the organizations and then you have the
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invited lower members. So you get people let's say like Clintons or uh Gates or
31:49
people like that who are summited to a Bilderberger meeting held
31:54
by the pure bloods and given their marching orders for a year and then they come back right
32:01
they're carrying out that agenda of course the Rosacruians they have as their agenda
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the continuation of the knowledge of their past of their whole occult arts
32:15
and religion and they are gnostic at the core with this Gnostic cosmology. They
32:21
are also the ones who created the Jesuits after the fall of the Knights
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Templar. So they're actually part of the adept hood of the Knights Templar before
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their fall, but they're going to establish the Jesuits back inside the Catholic Church to take
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the place of the Templars who fall in 1307. and they're called the new templars and their job is to establish
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the new Babylon right in their constitution. Um, and if people want to get a hold of
32:53
me on some information on that, I've got it for for people. Um, they're to create the new Babylon with within the church
33:00
as this Babel religion. So they they want that as sort of the central location on the seven mountains for uh
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the end time universal religion and they're to control education and control
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of the seminaries within the uh Catholic Church. So they're reporting in probably
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at two levels again. One would be into the Rosacrruian and the other one would be probably into the committee of 300
33:25
with the black nobility part of the Vatican church and Cath Catholic Church
33:31
and the Italian aspect and their bloodlines that go back to the senators
33:36
and the nobility of ancient Rome and the Caesars. And so you have one other group that
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they've created that fits in there which is a uh an organization reporting to
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um the Rosacruians as well as being operated as part for
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the lower end functions by the Freemasons. So they have different portions of that's the royal society who
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are created by the Rosacrruian and the Freemasons in 1660 and chartered in 1662
34:08
by a Steuart uh by a Steuart king and they're to control the education and
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science outside the church. So the Jesuits control inside the church, the banking and the education and control of
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the seminary schools, which is why, you know, they've infiltrated all aspects at several different levels of the church
34:29
to control doctrine and teachings and to control the education, which has the same goals that were set out for the
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seven sacred sciences that created secret societies, mystery schools, and the mystical religions was to lead
34:43
people away from God. Number one goal. Number two is to degrade God at every
34:48
chance. And the third thing is is to not give God credit for creating or doing
34:54
anything. And the fourth is to honor their pantheon of gods at the core. So
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education is not secular. It's controlled by the wizards and the sorcerers behind the curtain. And you
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also have the Jesuits who uh who who I said were controlling the banking within
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the church. And you have the Rothschilds which was the Bower family which were
35:19
established to control the banking outside the church again after the fall of the Templars who are that sort of
35:26
nexus u expansion of secret societies and to take away that centralness so that they
35:32
couldn't be as easily taken apart as they were when the Templars were brought down by the French king and and and the
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Knights Templar. So above that then you get the council of 33 which is 33 main
35:46
families in their heads and then you have the 13 families
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and then that 13 families feeds into and I'm told and I I don't have documentation on this that it feeds into
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the 13 families around the world which would include the Ingaroka family out of
36:05
the Inca dynasty in South America for one example would the Lee family, which
36:12
is the same as the Xi from the Sha dynasty. Uh, and all of the dynasties of
36:18
the Chinese were all from the Sha dynasty and their dragon gods, Yamamoto,
36:24
which would be an extension of the uh the Sha dynasty and Japan would be also
36:30
part of that. And you can imagine all these different families around the world that would have their own similar
36:37
setups and control and they're all have a rivalry for more control
36:46
in this new world order. So when you fast forward now to Putin and they don't have a Zar dynasty and it was taken down
36:52
by the western uh organizations in that rivalry that they that's why they have had difficulty
36:58
in getting things done. Enter Putin who has no genealogical
37:05
record beyond his grandfather. And and again I have a good document on
37:11
this for if people want it. He actually comes out of the Put Yanan which are the original Zars and he is uh an out of
37:20
marriage offspring who they don't give the full name to but they give part of
37:26
the name for. So Putin is part of Put Yanan which is the Tsarist uh bloodlines
37:32
that originally started in Kiev and then expanded to Mishek or Moscow. And that's
37:39
why his grandfather lived in the Kiev region because that's where the oldest bloodlines before the SARS that took
37:47
over in the 1600s actually were from and sort of went back and forth in in terms
37:54
of the locations of of of that dynasty. So, he actually is kind of like uh a
38:01
partial bloodline, but he's more of a strong man, which I think we'll see a
38:07
lot of that in that 10 king empire of the end time that they're trying to bring about, which is that new Nephilim
38:12
world order, which is going to be made up mostly of either new Nephilim that are created or descendants of the
38:20
Nephilim. And I tend to lead on the descendants, but I don't rule out that we might see Raphaim and Nephilim
38:26
recreated in in the end time. But I think there'll be just as you've got two
38:32
feet with 10 toes and 10 horns and 10 kings and they're like iron and clay.
38:38
They don't quite intermix. There may be strong men that are part of it based on what we see sort of before us in terms
38:45
of not all of those dynasties or and ruling powers and those bloodlines may be diluted even though they try and
38:51
continue to enobble those bloodlines as they go through andor they're all descendants
38:59
but also keep in mind that there could be as I said the the Raphaim or the Nephilim because Daniel 243 clearly
39:06
talks about these descendants or the rulers of the rising
39:14
10 king empire that comes from those beast empires are going to mingle their seed with humans in Daniel 2:43 in the
39:21
King James version and that's a very bizarre verse. So that suggests that there's that two races in terms of that
39:28
control. So that's where I also think that's where some of the strong men come in that they've got weak bloodlines but
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they could be ruling let's say like North America andor Russia or places like that. You said a lot. I'm thinking
39:42
about it all here. But it was uh one of my famous rants. No, that's fantastic. A
39:48
lot of people, you know, they they look at the television, they look at the news, they see these world leaders meeting and they they only think of it
39:56
in terms of what we're told. They have no idea about these bloodlines and these secret societies. And I've noticed uh
40:03
just in the last few years, a lot of times you'll see these world leaders or sometimes a world leader meeting a
40:09
royal, you know, a prince or a king. And it seems to me they have specific
40:15
handshakes sometimes that they're giving each other. And I've uh come to realize
40:20
that a lot of times they're giving each other the five points of fellowship. you know, the the chest to chest, knee to
40:27
knee, foot to foot. I can't remember the other two, but uh and you can tell, you
40:33
know, that they are a part of these secret societies. And it makes me wonder sometimes
40:39
if some of these uh leaders in in even the governments or parts of the
40:45
government may be in cahoots to use each other's countries as a threat. that way
40:52
they can control their people, you know, like absolutely using them as a boogeyman. Uh so that's something that I
40:59
would tell people how to think about. Yeah. And understand and a couple points that I think you raised a couple great
41:07
things in there that I'd like to just sort of flesh out a little bit more is that when the current West looks at
41:14
Putin as somebody gone rogue, they're not really trying to take him
41:19
out, right? Not really. They huff and they puff and they bluster and they send
41:26
letters as some presidents have done. I won't name them, but I think everybody knows who I'm talking about. But they
41:32
don't really do anything to stop them at this point in time. And all Putin is
41:39
doing is is he's saying, "I'm not against the new order.
41:46
I want a bigger role." And that's exactly what President Trump
41:51
has been trying to do is create a bigger role, a more important role in this
41:57
greater new world order. And I'm not saying Trump is is a bloodline. If he is, he's quite weak in the bloodlines,
42:04
but and he he's done a lot of good things, but he's still moving towards that globalist agenda directionally,
42:12
just with a greater role. And that's what what Putin is doing. That's what uh President Xi is doing. They want a
42:18
bigger role than the Europeans want and that's the rivalries that come up. So now when they go meet as you say they
42:25
have secret handshakes secret s uh signals and a different way of
42:33
recognizing where they fit in that hierarchy of bloodlines. So that
42:41
if you see an American president that's weak in bloodlines, whether it's Trump or Obama, and they're going to the Saudi
42:48
kings, who bows to who? The Americans bow to the Saudis, right? Exactly. And
42:55
that's what that's telling you. And all of them have a fit in terms of what family that they're in in terms of the
43:00
bloodline and how pure their bloodlines are and how many enobbled scions in
43:07
there. In other words, grafting in noting that Sion is the first born
43:12
carrying on that family. It's one of those double antandres of enobbling their bloodlines. And so where you are
43:19
in terms of that enoeness and purity is where you fit in the hierarchy of the cult of the
43:26
bloodlines. So they will that's why they seem to approach each other in a controlled way
43:33
but slightly different depending on who's meeting who. Yes. Yeah. I've
43:39
noticed that. And I even wonder with Iran, you know, the uh the general that we assassinated or supposedly
43:45
assassinated, Solommania, I believe was his name. There was numerous pictures of him with uh a certain red ring on and a
43:54
lot of people said that it was some sort of Freemason ring and I have seen those actually for sale uh on Freemason
44:01
websites that have they have a red a red ring like that and it makes me wonder you as you were saying uh they they huff
44:08
and puff and they act like they're going to do something to these other countries but it makes me wonder if Iran is just
44:14
not another kind of a proxy well I don't know if that's the correct word that you know what I'm talking about. Yep. I mean
44:21
they they are being controlled. They are a little bit rogue. Mhm. Um but understand the same principles are are
44:28
still in place there. So I think and a good way to understand it is is I mentioned earlier that the
44:36
Templars are the base organization to all the modern western secret societies that we
44:42
have today and the adepts at that level whether or not they're part of the priority of the invisible ones that are
44:50
going to recreate the Jesuits sponsor them starting with uh with Ignatis of
44:56
Lyola being sponsored by the Montessa order which is a bloodline in Grandmaster Bourja of the black nobility
45:04
is going to fund them and actually become the third leader of the Jesuits
45:09
by 1570 so that they can you know get control within the church. Um but that's
45:15
another rabbit hole. Um, understand though that the Templars
45:21
were organized in the Middle East and founded in the Middle East by bloodline
45:27
Masons. Mason is the older ancient organization. Freemasonry is the modern
45:34
one that's created after the fall of the Templars by the Sinclair's or the St. Claire's in Scotland. So, uh, these, uh,
45:44
Masons form this order, and they're working with a group called the Assassins. Of course, people know that
45:50
with the movies and the games, but they don't know the connections. The assassins are an ancient polytheist
45:58
order within Islam. They're part of the Sufis and the
46:03
Pheramon dermon dynasty. And there's, you know, three different sects of that. And of course
46:09
they have different uh hadith and just as the Shia and the Sunnis have different hadiths and they don't
46:15
necessarily get along but they've had to infiltrate monotheist Islam
46:22
just as the Gnostics have infiltrated and the secret societies have
46:29
infiltrated monotheist Christianity and Catholicism. They've done the same thing. So the organizational structure
46:36
comes from the assassins which is one of those secret societies out of the Middle East. And which is why you have the uh
46:43
Shriners who have that respectful symbology back to that
46:50
portion of their history where they worked together with the assassins in the Middle East. And the assassins were
46:56
used as translators, as mercenaries and they did that for a very long period of time. And they had this
47:03
unspoken respect for the Templars until they parted and nobody understood why.
47:09
But they passed on their hierarchy and organizational structure to the Templars
47:16
which then married up with their other aspect of the hierarchy and organizational structure of the Essenes
47:23
and the monastic order of that in its uh religious mole capacity within the
47:30
Catholic Church. right, which was already there that were also part of funding and and and starting the the
47:36
Knights Templar and with the sons and the first sons of of of dynasties like
47:43
Debullion and Depeon and Anju who all took their bloodlines back to the
47:48
Maravvenians, Dagob is the last one and were all located in the Lorraine region as kings,
47:56
right? And of course they started the king of Jerusalem title thereafter that the Hapsburg dynasty and the Borbone
48:02
dynasty has today. So if we understand that that organization
48:09
that organizational structure was exported from polytheism within Islam, the Sufis and
48:17
the Aakhan as we understand the leader of Sufiism today.
48:22
then it makes sense that a lot of that imagery and symbolism that reflects who
48:28
they are and where they are in their belief system and their secret society would be similar. Yes, that is amazing.
48:36
I you know I didn't u know anything about that connection until I read your
48:41
book and I I guarantee you know 90% of probably 95% of regular people don't
48:47
know anything about that and and and the role that uh the Templars ended up playing and just the influence they've
48:54
had on the world really but uh especially the western world it's just amazing I think if people were to get
49:02
your book and familiarize their themselves with this history. It's going to make what's happening right now a lot
49:10
clearer and they're going to really understand, you know, so much of of why
49:15
we are in the position that we are now as a world and especially as Christians,
49:20
why we are in this position. You know, you mentioned um how the uh they've, you
49:25
know, infiltrated Islam and the Christian church. you have this world council of churches that's uh you know
49:32
it's basically a new age infiltration into the church and um you know that's
49:39
churches are are teaching all kinds of new age teachings that you know beliefs
49:45
uh I went to a church last year and they were uh they were doing the u inagram I
49:51
think and you know that comes right out of uh the occult teachings this I'm sure that's just one little church and I'm
49:57
sure that that is very prevalent in other places. Oh, absolutely it is. And
50:02
it's why they want control of the seminary schools so they get the aonatoms teaching the standard dogma.
50:08
And you know, there's so many ministers that get a hold of me and say, "Can you
50:13
send me information on what you're saying in terms of the Bible?" Uh
50:18
because we've we weren't taught this in seminary school. So if they're not taught prehistory, if they're not taught
50:25
prophecy in seminary school, and they're not permitted to talk about it in so many organizations, you have to ask
50:33
yourself, why is the church who promotes the Bible essentially editing and
50:40
censoring at least a third of the Bible? Because prophecy takes up about a third of the Bible, let alone the
50:46
prehistorical part. What's that all about? It's because they're no longer
50:52
teaching the original doctrines of the Jerusalem church or the early church.
50:57
They're teaching a new Christianity in preparation for what's coming. And that
51:04
preparation is starting to come into fruition with the World Council of
51:09
Churches, which again, the Vatican has, I think, 13 or 17 members involved, even though they're not officially a member,
51:15
but they're working actively and everybody is being told in that
51:21
council that we have to rewrite doctrine and everybody has to compromise.
51:27
And in the meantime, particularly led by the Vatican, they're making overtures to
51:34
Eastern mysticism and to the Muslims to bring them back in because the next step
51:40
is is how do we merge those doctrines back in? And how they do that is they
51:45
take everything back to the original religion, which means there's going to have to be some persecution
51:53
um and tribulation and genocide because not everybody is going to accept it. But
51:59
they want to bring home the original religion of the world. And they say
52:05
monotheism went rogue that Moses brought back from
52:11
Helopoulos because they say he was an adept, which he probably was uh and was
52:16
taught all the occult sciences and arts as being an adopted son into the royal pharaohs uh before he converted. Um and
52:27
what they will reinvent in their assertions is that he brought back the
52:34
religion of Helopoulos which was transplanted from Babel with Hermes and
52:39
Misum and Ham and that it was the kings probably uh is
52:48
is the most common sort of nexus point where it starts to grow rogue in a big way.
52:53
um is is the ones who introduced monotheism
52:59
and that right but now you have Judaism, Christianity and uh Islam all connected
53:06
through Moses which is why that's that's the point where they want to draw that
53:11
start and that he was actually a polytheist so that they can bring in the Islamic
53:18
religion and understanding that in within monotheism Today you have the
53:25
Sufis who are polytheistic with which is in Islam and you have the Gnostics that are within Christianity and you have the
53:32
mystical jewels Jews that are the cobalists and the Essenes
53:38
um who were part of the Judeaic religion which is still operating in all three of
53:43
those religions that are working to control those religions and we see that
53:49
manifest in all three of them today. And pretty soon they'll take down that
53:54
monotheist sort of connection to uh our history and change it back. And of
54:00
course the problems going to be are the is going to be the Christians
54:05
and the deifying of Jesus because that's the only way that you bring that back to
54:10
have Islam and Judaism accept that aspect of it. And
54:18
they uh they understand completely that
54:23
uh they cannot allow one prophet to be
54:28
higher than another prophet if they're going to bring in all these other enlightened prophets that the new age
54:34
likes to talk about. you know, whether it's Confucious or Buddha or whomever,
54:40
so that they're all sort of on the same wavelength that have been avatarred by
54:45
uh the fallen angels to bring knowledge, information, technology, and help us on
54:50
our way to evolving to God, right? And that that plays right into
54:56
Blovatsky and Alice Bailey and Annie Bezant and all their ascended masters.
55:01
Uh I don't know if they're the ones that came up with that or not. Uh but uh that plays right into what you're talking
55:07
about and that's definitely being pushed in a big way. I see that stuff online all the time and there was even a an
55:15
element to uh QAnon and they really had a new age slant to them. I tried to tell
55:21
people about that but a lot of people didn't want to listen but uh uh it was very similar to the things I've read by
55:29
Allison Foster Bailey and you know they would talk about the plan the plan constantly and of course the same with
55:35
QAnon but they would talk about the Gasara and Nisara and and how basically
55:41
there's going to be a utopia on Earth and all those type of things you know try to warn people about that but you
55:46
know people get so emotional and uh it just you you can't really get through to people. They're very very good about
55:55
having us pick two polarities. Yeah. That are fighting so they can
56:01
cattle herd us into the same direction. And that's exactly what they do. So you have to be careful and ask good hard
56:08
critical questions about organizations as to what's their language, what's their agenda, what is that really
56:15
telling me about what is going on and are they the flip side of the same coin
56:21
to what I'm actually dead set against, right? But they're actually leading me
56:27
away by telling me that we're going to fight these people when they're really not. Yeah, I know power play within
56:35
within the agenda. Right. Right. And yeah, I know there was a I did a show on
56:40
Q. I just did my view. I was just trying to expose the new age uh part of Q and
56:47
uh I was looking at the Q drops and there was the Q drop 666
56:53
and the line was follow the light. And I'm like come on man, you've got to look
56:58
into these things. It's just right there and you can see this. Yeah. It couldn't be more obvious when you have symbology
57:05
like that and they're going to flaunt it in plain sight. But if they brainwashed you enough
57:12
and deceived you enough, you won't think anything of it because you're not
57:17
questioning what they're saying or what they're doing. And what I like to tell people, whoever they are, be like a
57:24
Burian did to Paul. test whatever Paul did and said against what was written in
57:31
scripture. And you need to test that about all these groups. And I would add
57:37
the third element is look for how they talk and communicate and what their goals are because that will tell you
57:43
what they're really all about. They're just another secret society.
57:48
Yeah, absolutely. And and they're based, you know, they have such similarities to, you know, Freemasonry and the New
57:54
Age. It's like you said, nothing is new under the sun. Yeah. Well, this has been
58:01
great. We've been at it an hour and I could talk to you for hours. I mean, there's no doubt because guys, check out
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58:15
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58:21
You can look up his website or do a YouTube search and you'll just find hours of great stuff. Uh but thank you,
58:28
Gary, for spending this time with me. This has been such a treat, man. I so happy and I'd love to have you on
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59:06
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59:12
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59:17
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59:24
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59:30
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59:36
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59:47
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there's prophecy in the Genesis 6 and it's about the lost tribes
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the northern kingdom and how it sort of begins in prehistory with the covenant,
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the blessings, connections to the Genesis 6 conspiracy. um but go into who they are, uh what
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prophecy says about them and where they fit into end time prophecy, which is going to lead into second Exodus.
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Very cool. Well, I look very forward to that. Uh but in the meantime, I'm going
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to be going back and forth to Genesis 6 conspiracy because so many of my shows
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you talk about the new world order and uh you know that it directly lines up with a lot of your information and your
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research. So I really appreciate you being on once again. This has been a real treat and I hope to talk to you
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again in the near future. And there you have it guys, my interview
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with Gary Wayne, author of the Genesis 6 conspiracy.