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Answering The Jehovah Witness Heretics Part 2, God's Love, The Triune God, The Deity Of Christ
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Feb 19, 2025
Yesterday I talked about one of the pernicious heresies within the Jehovah witness community. And I specifically dealt with their misinterpretation of Colossians 1:15. This morning I woke up to a very interesting comment from one of the elders I suppose. He basically tried to defend their belief systems and pretty much gave me more heresies to look at. One of the things I've noticed with heretics is that they never truly are concise and clear in their propositions. There is always an element of secrecy, confusion when they talk, and this person that commented embodies the skeleton of a heretic. I chose to answer his comments with this video.
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hey guys and this is tahiba times.com
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and today is monday
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and i know that some of you were
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expecting me to do a
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continue on the book of first john we
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were in chapter four
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and last week we did verses one two
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through six but today i'm not gonna do
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on first john four 4
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verses 7 through 17. that was the plan
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but
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there's been a little change and that's
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because yesterday i shared a video
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exposing the jehovah witness heresy
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as he pertains to the deity of christ so
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i woke up this morning
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to a lovely email from a jehovah's
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witness
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heretic who went to give me pages worth
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of
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garbage pretty much because he was
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talking about
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he was basically trying to prove me
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wrong and again i'm not trying to
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prove myself right because the scripture
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is right
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so basically everything that i said
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yesterday was consistent with the
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scripture so
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one thing that one thing that i've
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noticed with heretics is
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uh when when you deal with heretics they
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usually
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are not clear and concise they are very
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confusing
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okay like yesterday when i did the video
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i only addressed
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one particular issue and i was looking
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at colossians 1 15
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through uh 19 now this guy
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answers me and he begins with the love
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of god and how god does not
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torture people and then he goes on and
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gives me a whole bunch of
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just garbage stuff and i'm like listen
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half of the stuff you're talking about i
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didn't address in the video so
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one of the things with heretics is they
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are almost like robots okay they are
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conditioned and they are pretty much
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uh they act based on what they've been
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uh brainwashed with
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they have this uh log of information
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stored in their brain
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and they are waiting for someone to just
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spill the whole
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thing upon the people so they really
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don't have they don't really exercise a
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lot of wisdom
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as far as like how to to interact with
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people when you ask
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and when you ask one question they don't
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really answer the question and they say
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a bunch of stuff
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just to appear as if they are
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intelligent or they are really
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knowledgeable about what they are
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talking about
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and this is just all smoke screens is
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not really you're not really dealing
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with the issue
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and then they get really confusing with
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their exegesis
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they're not really concrete and they're
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not really concise and it's just a bunch
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of crap
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so what i'm gonna do this morning is i'm
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going to address
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uh his now questions again i'm gonna
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tell you what he said
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and then we're gonna go into answering
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this question so here's what he said
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the first thing that he said was god is
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not a literal
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uh a literal torturer god is love and he
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only gives eternal life to those who
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exercise faith in him and his son and
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not to the wicked people
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the wicked will vanish and will be no
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more and he quotes uh john 3 16 john 14
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1
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and then psalm 37 20. i'm gonna get to
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that in a second
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but before i do that i want to say this
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at the outset
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first of all their understanding of the
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love of god is so shallow
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and so small that it just completely
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blew my mind
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that's what happens when hollywood
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pretty much influences your idea of love
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and yes i believe hollywood has pretty
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much shaped
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the jehovah witnesses idea of love
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because it's a bubbly
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whimsical idea of love that these folks
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have
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because first thing is this we that we
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need to understand that god's love
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is a holy love and he's a holy love in
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two ways okay
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holy in the sense that god's love is
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different
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okay when god say i am holy he first
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means that i am
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different i am other okay i am not like
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you
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god is holy that's what we need to
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understand now holy also means that he
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is pure
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because he god is purity morally perfect
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so the love that god manifest
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has its roots in the character of god
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and because
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god is morally perfect he can't tolerate
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sin his love works in conjunction with
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his justice and righteousness
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romans 12 9 says love must hate evil and
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cling
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on cling on to what is good so because
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god is a good god
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he can't tolerate sin and must punish
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sin
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because his love is also tied to his
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righteous nature his holy nature in that
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sense
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so when we talk about the wrath of god
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people like jehovah witness
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they don't like that because they
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struggle to come to grips
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with the wrath of god they don't like to
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hear about the wrath of god because to
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them
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they compare god to almost a cosmic
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santa claus
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as if god is just there with his white
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beard and he's just
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this nice man just like santa claus or
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isis will
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say uh cosmic mr rogers everything is
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good
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everything is good in paradise now
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that's not who god is god is a holy god
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he's holy
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in his nature in the sense that he is
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different and he's also
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pure so a loving god and a holy god
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cannot tolerate sinners and he must
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punish sin now i'm going to show you in
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scriptures just a couple of scriptures
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here that the wrath of god is real
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so according to the jehovah witnesses uh
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god
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is not a torturer in the sense that he's
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not going to punish people
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with everlasting fire as jesus speaks
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about in the scripture so we're going to
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go
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and look at mark 9 verse 42 to 44
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and see what the scripture says jesus
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says
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if anyone causes one of these little
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ones those who believe in me
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to stumble it would be better for them
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if a large male stone were hung
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around their neck and they were thrown
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into the sea if your hand
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causes you to stumble cut it off it is
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better for you to
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enter life maimed than with two hands to
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go
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in in hell where the fire
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never goes out did you hear that
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where the fire never goes out i'm gonna
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read you another one
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let's go to second peter three second
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peter two verse three to five
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peter says in their greed these teachers
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will exploit you
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fabricated stories just like the jehovah
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witness and their condemnation has been
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long been hanging
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over them and their destruction has been
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has not been sleeping
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for if god did not spare angels when
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they sinned
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but sent them to hell putting them in
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chains of darkness to be held for
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judgment
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if he did not spare the ancient world
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when he brought the flood on his ungodly
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people
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but protected noah a preacher of
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righteousness and seven others
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then god you can see here that god is
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gonna punish sin so let's go to matthew
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which is the climax of this whole thing
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matthew verse 25
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chapter 25 verse 31 to 46
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listen to what jesus says when the son
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of man comes in his glory
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and all the angels with him he will sit
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on his glorious
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throne all the nations will be gathered
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before him
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and he will separate the people one from
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another as a shepherd
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separates the sheep from the goat he
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will put the sheep on his right hand and
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the goats on his left
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then the king will say to those on his
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right come you are blessed by my father
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take your inheritance the kingdom
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prepare for you since the creation of
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the world
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for i was hungry and you gave me
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something to eat i was
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thirsty and you gave me something to
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drink i was a stranger and you invited
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me
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in i needed clothes and you clothed me
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i was sick and you looked after me i was
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in prison
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and you came to visit me then the
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righteous will answer him lord
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when did we see you hungry and feed you
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or thirsty
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and give you something to drink when did
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we see you a stranger and invite you in
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or needing
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needing clothes and clothe you when did
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we see you sick or in prison and go to
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visit you
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the king will reply truly i tell you
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whatever you did for one of this least
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of these brothers and sisters of mine
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you did for me
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then he would say to those on his left
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depart from me
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you were cursed into the
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eternal fire prepared for the devil and
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his angels
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okay eternal fire prepare for the devil
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so
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those on his left that's what he would
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say to them they're going to join the
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devil
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with his demons for i was hungry and you
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gave me nothing to eat
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i was thirsty you gave me nothing to
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drink so jesus himself
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talks about it listen to verse 46
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then they will go away to eternal
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punishment
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by the righteous to eternal life so how
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can you miss
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the wrath of god and the the perpetual
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torment these people will face that did
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not believe in jesus
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and the wicked okay so here's what these
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people say
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when they read psalm 27 20 okay he says
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the wicked will vanish
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and that's what the scripture says but
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the wicked will perish the enemies of
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the lord are like the glory of the
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pastures
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they vanish like smoke they vanish away
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now this is almost laughable man like
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the jehovah witnesses
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think that this verse means the wicked
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will be vaporized
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like dust like
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this is like laughable like no the
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psalmist is not talking about how
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uh god is gonna vaporize them in that
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way he's saying
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god looks at his enemies with the reason
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they are like the glory of the pastors
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because they their evil deeds
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will not last god will eventually do
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away with the wicked
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on the side of eternity they will
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eventually die and when they die they
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will face
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final judgment and they will be
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subjected to the wrath of god
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forever for all eternity
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okay if you go to luke 16 verse 19 to 31
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let's read the scripture again this is
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like laughable man
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like listen to what jesus gives the
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parable of the rich man and lazarus
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now listen to what jesus says there was
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a rich man who was dressed in purple and
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fine
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linen and lived in luxury every day at
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his gate was laid a beggar
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named lazarus covered with sores and
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longing to eat
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what fell from the rich man's table even
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the dogs came
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and leaked his swords the t the time
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came when the beggar died
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and the angels carried him to abraham's
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side the rich man also died and was
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buried
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in hades where he was in torment
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he looked up and saw abraham far away
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with lazarus by his side
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so he called to him father abraham half
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pity on me
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and sent lazarus to dip the tip of his
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finger in water
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and cool my tongue because i'm in agony
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in this fire
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but abraham replied son remember that in
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your lifetime you received your good
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things while lazarus received bad things
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but now he's confident here and you are
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in agony
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and besides all this between us and you
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i great
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is a great chasm has a great chasm has
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been set in place
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so that those who want to go from here
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to you cannot
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nor can anyone cross over from there to
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us he answered
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then i beg your father send lazarus to
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my family for i have five brothers
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let him warn them so that they will not
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also come to this place of torment
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torment okay abraham replied they have
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moses on the prophet
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let them listen to them no father
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abraham he said but if someone from the
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dead goes to them
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they will repent he said to him if they
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do not
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if they do not listen to moses and the
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prophet they will not be convinced even
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someone
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rises from the dead okay so you could
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clearly see that jesus
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talks about the reality of hell
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and hell is what is god's wrath
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on you god is gonna afford his wrath
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and those that did not believe in jesus
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as their lord and savior will be
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sent there for all eternity they will be
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in the in torment and jesus talks about
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it clearly here
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there is no second chances once you die
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that's it
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you don't have a second chance
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so now let's continue now the next thing
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that these people talk about is the
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deity of christ okay and then he
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through he talked about how many is
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jehovah
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trinitarians say that there are three
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jehovah what what about what does the
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bible say there is one jehovah
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and not three jehovah deuteronomy 6 4
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listen oh israel jehovah
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god is one now i've never postulated
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that there are three gods i've never
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said that
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i've never said that there are three
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gods that's not what i said
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and i actually didn't even talk about
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the trinity and yeah i did talk about
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the trinity last time and explained
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briefly
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uh what he meant god is one in essence
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and three in persons okay it's not three
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different gods
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but we must make distinction within the
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godhead okay
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now before i go and show you scripture
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i'm gonna give you a quick illustration
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if you look at the equilateral triangle
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okay
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it's one triangle with three sides if
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you split the side to side
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it's no longer a triangle it's just
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sides okay
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so but the equilateral triangle is just
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one triangle but then three sides
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that's pretty much like a poor
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illustration of the trinity
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but this is the best way i can explain
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to someone i'm a mathematician
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so that's the best illustration that i
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have so basically
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god is one in in essence but three in
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persons
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and if you go to genesis 1 verse 26 and
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the scripture says there
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then god say let us
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make man in our image after our likeness
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and let them have dominion over the fish
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of the sea and over the birds of the
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heavens
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and over the livestock and over all the
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earth and over
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every creeping thing that creeps on the
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earth so god created man
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in his own image in the image of god he
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created him
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male and female he created them so who
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who is the
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us in this scripture they are image and
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they
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our likeness you see that the scripture
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goes from the us to his
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so god is one in person one in essence
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and three in persons
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now if you go to john chapter one verse
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one to three
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okay the scripture says that in the
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beginning was the word
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and the word was with god and the word
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was god
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he was in the beginning with god okay
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so even though the bible never says
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trinity it implies it
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so think all things were made
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through him and without him was not
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anything made that was made
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basically in the beginning was the word
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mean means that the word
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the word already existed in the
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beginning
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and the word was with god in an intimate
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relationship and the word was god
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okay not only was the word with god but
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the word was also god he was in the
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beginning with god
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the scripture is very clear all things
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were made
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through him and without him was nothing
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made that was made
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okay which means that all existence
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owes the existence to the world because
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he can't create himself because
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there was never a time where he wasn't
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i'll say that again
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all existence owes their existence
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to the world because he can't create
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himself because there was never a time
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where he wasn't and the scripture says
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the word became flesh
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flesh so the godhead
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added god the man when jesus came
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the word became flesh took on human form
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now again when they talk about god is
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love which i'm gonna show you something
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interesting here
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god is love right how can god know love
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if god is not a fellowship okay because
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love requires
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a love and a lover right someone to love
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so if god did not know love why would he
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create
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humans like us that know how to love
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people see it's almost like
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so basically if god was not a fellowship
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because there was a love
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feast between god the father god the son
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and god the spirit for all eternity
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because of that god chose to create us
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in
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their image that's what he said let us
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make man in our image
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after our likeness okay because god is a
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fellowship
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love requires a love than a lover so how
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can someone create
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love if he doesn't know what love is
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because love already existed
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between the godhead this is why
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there is the trinity this is also one
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reason why because it's so crazy that
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they actually say that god is love and
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then they don't even
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understand that love requires a love and
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a lover i mean you crazy
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let's keep going so now
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about the deity of christ if you go to
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john
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8 verse 58 and 59 we need to understand
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the meaning of i am i am okay in john 8
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58-59 jesus said to them truly truly i
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say to you
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before abraham was i am so they picked
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up stones to throw at him but jesus hit
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himself and went out of the temple
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referring to the pharisees jesus calls
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himself i
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am which means he did not have a
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beginning nor does he have an end
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touching his deity okay the pharisees
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just like the jehovah witness heretics
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do not know how to make distinction
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between the dual nature of christ
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he's both god and man so when jesus
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experienced hunger
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that was touching his humanity because
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god cannot hunger
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okay when jesus died on the cross that
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was touching his humanity because god
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cannot die
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so if you listen to what thomas said to
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jesus once jesus rose from the dead
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he seals the deal if you go to john 20
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verse 27
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to 29 the scripture says then he said to
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thomas
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put your finger here and see my hands
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and put out your hand and place it in my
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side
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do not disbelieve but believe and thomas
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said
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thomas answered him my lord and
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my god jesus said to him have you
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believed because you have seen me
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blessed are those who have not seen and
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yet have believed thomas
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worships jesus calls him my lord and my
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god
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and we know that no created thing can be
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worshipped as god which means that jesus
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is not a creation
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but a creator so how much more um
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evidence do you need if you go back to
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hebrews we're going to look at hebrews 1
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verse 6
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hebrews 1 verse 10 to 12 and colossians
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1 verse 15 to 17. so let's let's go to
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hebrews 1
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verse 6 and read that real quick the
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scripture says here in hebrews 1 verse
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6. i'm going to read it to you
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froze a little bit and again when god
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brings his firstborn into the world he
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says let
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all god's angels worship
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him let
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all god's angels worship
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him what does that say that means that
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jesus
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himself is god he's not an angel okay
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in speaking of the angel he says he
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makes his angels spirit and he servants
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flames of fire
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but about the sun he says listen to this
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dynamite statement by god your throne
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or god will last
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forever and ever let me say that again
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your throne oh god about the son that's
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what god himself says god the father
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says about the son
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your throne oh god will last forever and
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ever
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a scepter of justice will be the scepter
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of your kingdom you have loved
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righteousness and hated wickedness
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therefore god your god
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has set you above your companion by
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anointing you with the oil of joy
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okay and then listen to verse 10 in the
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beginning
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lord you laid the foundations
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of the earth and their heavens are the
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work of your hands they will perish but
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you remain
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they will all wear out like a garment
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you roll them up like a robe
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like a garment they will be changed but
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you remain the same and your years will
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never
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end which means god is eternal that
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jesus
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is eternal okay this scripture is
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talking clearly
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about jesus here now let's go to
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colossians which i read yesterday i'm
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going to read it to him again
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i don't know why they don't understand
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it the sun is the image of the invisible
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god the first born over all
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creation which we talked about first
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born meanings means
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status here okay the status of the
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firstborn okay he has
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basically first uh he has supremacy over
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all things
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he is preeminent over all things why
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for in him all things were created
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things in heaven and on earth
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visible and invisible whether thrones or
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powers or rulers or authorities
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all things have been created through him
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and for him even angels were created by
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jesus
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so hello he can't create himself because
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he never was not
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he always was as scripture says
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so i'm not going to waste my time
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reading
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the nonsense that he sent i read it and
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i'm like listen it boils down to one
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thing
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jesus is not an angel he is god okay so
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everything that he says is just garbage
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if you read it it's just a bunch of
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confusing stuff and what they do is they
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look for simple-minded people
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to corrupt their minds when they the
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scripture is clear
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okay these guys are crazy and i'm gonna
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say it again they are heretics
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i'm not afraid to say it call them out
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they speak lies and they don't correctly
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divide the word of god so i'm not going
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to shy away from calling them what they
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call a spade is paid they are liars
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root beast this is what they are and
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you need to stay away from them they
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come as uh sheep
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in in um wolves and sheep clothing they
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trying to appear as if
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they really mean well but they don't
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it's all heresy
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and it all begins because somebody
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misinterpreted the scripture
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and they banned the scriptures to to to
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suit their own
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um perverted needs and it means or
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whatever
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so i'll say it again the scripture is
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right here
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and i dare dare you to challenge the
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scripture not me because i'm just
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a messenger the scripture is right there
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in front of you go read it yourself and
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understand it
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all right so this is all i have to say
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have a wonderful day and i'll see you
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next time thank you guys
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