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The Future of Healthcare - Part 2
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Feb 6, 2025
Welcome to Adaptable | Behavior Explained! In this episode we bring in Chris Desmarchais with RISE Health. The current medical system is broken. Rise is setting a new standard for wellness, aimed at keeping you healthy and thriving for as long as possible. By embracing the latest medical innovations, we develop tailored strategies to maximize your quality of life and lower your risks for diseases. Part 2 of 2 I'm Kelly O'Horo, Attachment based EMDR Therapist, EMDRIA Consultant, and Advanced Trainer. I'm a mom of 5, Nonna of 5, wife, and a healer. I have the honor of spending my workdays walking along side people while they brave their healing journeys. I try to live with the generous assumption that we're all doing the best we can with what we know. Therapists are teachers for the "life stuff" and "emotional vocabulary" that may not have been learned due to gaps in our care givers capabilities. In the last 15 years I've learned that people are freaking amazing, resilient, and inspiring. Most importantly, we are hardwired for connection and for healing! I hope to bring an authentic, compassionate, and unpolished approach while we explore a variety of topics such as parenting, marriage, relationships, dating, trauma, attachment, adoption, depression, addiction, anxiety, and love! There's a why for all behaviors and an explanation that makes perfect sense as emotion is at the root of it all. -- Links -- https://linktr.ee/kellyohorolpc https://youtu.be/rLnARKekvgo https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/
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hi everyone I'm Kell ooro and this is
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adaptable Behavior explained hi there
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thanks so much for tuning in to
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adaptable you are now watching part two
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of a two-part series uh on health mental
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health and proactive treatment of the
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body related to supplements and exercise
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and hormone balance I have with me Chris
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Day Marche I'm very excited to have him
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here again uh he is a co-owner of Ry
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health and I'm uh like you to introduce
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a little bit more about what that is and
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and how we know each other and for those
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that missed part one yeah so I uh I am a
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fitness professional by trade I have a
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master's degree in exercise science a
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certified strength and conditioning
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specialist and your former personal
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trainer so that is how we know each
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other and at rise my new project we are
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really focused on uh holistic
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personalized preventative Healthcare so
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outside of the insurance model but we
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really focus on things like hormone
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balance body composition optimization
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Fitness testing Fitness training
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nutrition supplementation kind of
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weaving all of those things into one
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cohesive approach to help people live
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healthier longer that's our mission
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being proactive with our health is so
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important it's certainly not part of how
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many people think about health and
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wellness it's kind of like with mental
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health you know I tell people why do we
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wait until our life is falling apart
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where we're you know on the midst of a
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potential divorce or I'm having a a
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depression breakdown or I'm so anxious
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that you know my boss is asking me to
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take a leave of absence and now I think
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all of a sudden I should really go
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address my mental health and I have a
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friend who said you know we need to be
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proactive about this stuff and we don't
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wait till we have a mouthful of cavities
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until we go to the dentist we get our
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six-month checkup and I I tell people
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with mental health you know we should
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have a checkup from the neck up and we
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should have an objective person who's
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not in our Circle help us to be our
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accountability partner on how we're
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managing the stress of our lives and
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what I'm hearing you say and what you
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talked a little bit more about in part
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one was about the importance of
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proactive healthc care so walk me
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through if I was a new client at rise
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what that might look like when I walked
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in the door and I'm like hey I I
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subscribe I want to be proactive with my
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Healthcare uh tell us tell us about what
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that would look like absolutely so the
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cool thing about our approach is we have
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a few different verticals or different
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entry points into our program depending
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on you know where someone is sort of
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with their lifestyle right now or maybe
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where their interest might be so you
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know to your point about a checkup from
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the neck up you know something really
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exciting that we do is we have a whole
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Suite of really diagnostic Fitness
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testing but Fitness measures that are
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highly associated with your overall
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Health and Longevity okay so things like
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a dexa body composition scan which is
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the highest standard medical grade body
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composition analysis it's x-ray based
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and it will give you very granular uh
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reading on your body fat percentage your
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lean muscle mass your bone density so it
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all of those things specifically you
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know your lean mass your bone density
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things like that are highly correlated
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with living quality of life as you age
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um similarly we test V2 Max so that
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would be the Pinnacle of
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cardiorespiratory Fitness testing it's
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done using you know a very fancy looking
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mask and typically riding a bike or a
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treadmill going to full exhaustion
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essentially on a graded exercise test
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but it's going to measure how
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efficiently your body can utilize oxygen
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during maximal exercise the cool thing
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about something like that people say you
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know I'm not a triathlete like why would
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I care about that because it's such a
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great proxy as a measurement for a lot
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of very positive work that's been done
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over time on someone's Fitness we see
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the data bear out that you know going
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from from the bottom quartile of very
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poor V2 Max even to like the third
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quartile not even Elite is more highly
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associated with improvements in all
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cause mortality than cessation of
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smoking uh type 2 diabetes hypertension
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big things that people know is very
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unhealthy so I always tell people like
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wouldn't you want to know if you have
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diabetes or high blood pressure right
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you know it's very valuable to get a
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figure such as your VO2 max and see
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where you fall within that chart um we
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do things like testing grip strength as
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well to really paint an overall picture
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of your health as it relates to your
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Fitness in your
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body so that would be you know one of
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our our our primary verticals and then
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you know similarly what comes with that
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like after you get the results of all
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your tests then what well the cool thing
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about we do at rise is those tests can
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be done all a cart but they're also
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included in our membership plan so
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primarily and foundationally we are a
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membership based practice and and the
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memberships primarily Focus around
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services such as hormone replacement and
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in some cases when indicated medical
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weight loss so using things like glp1
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Agonist peptides um but the way someone
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would approach that that's the semi
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glutide right sem glutide zepeti woia
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AIC all those um and you know they're
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great tools that are certainly useful in
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certain cases but what we see with you
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know things like those in particular is
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used isolated they can often times have
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unintended consequences you know we can
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see weight loss of which too high a
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percentage is lean muscle mass right you
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might lose 20 lbs but if 15 of that was
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muscle mass you're lighter but you're
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actually fatter as a percentage and so
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things like the Dex of body composition
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scanning uh the counseling that we
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provide around proper fitness programs
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proper supplementation protein
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consumption things like that will help
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to track and make sure that's not
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happening when we put someone on on a
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treatment like that so awesome those
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memberships the way that someone would
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approach that is we we start with a very
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comprehensive blood panel we do a super
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deep dive specifically around things
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like hormones and metabolic panel but
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it's an exhaustive list and you'd sit
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down with the provider and simply
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discuss your symptoms you know how
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you're feeling your medical history all
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that normal stuff but also what is your
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motivation for living a healthier life
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you know we want to dig down a little
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bit deeper into why are you even
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considering
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this new preventative approach to care
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and and and understand your why behind
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it to really get to know you and what's
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driving you and and then we would you
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know initiate a a treatment plan that's
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best for you and it incorporate all
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those things and so then monthly or
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every month or how often would I go to
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address these things essentially as
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needed you know typically you know you
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would start with you know if for example
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you initiated hormone replacement
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therapy we're going to want to see
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follow-up labs in approximately 5 weeks
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and a follow up appointment uh to review
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those results in 6 weeks however in in
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between those uh that initial
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consultation and that followup you're
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going to see another team member you're
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going to get your dexa scan you're going
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to get your resting metabolic rate
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tested so we can see how many calories
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you burn at rest we're going to give you
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a diet plan we're going to give you a
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fitness plan so there's multiple touch
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points with our team uh independent of
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which specific treatment you might be
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partaking in from a medical standpoint
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okay so I'm really excited for the
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conversation that we had uh before when
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I came by to to tour rise and see you
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know what it was that you did and and
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why I wanted to support this model
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because uh as a mental health
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professional we are so busy being
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reactive and I just really respect
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rise's model of reimagining healthcare
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and really let's try to let's try to
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prevent people from getting sick and I
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think that especially with covid we
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really saw people being so reactionary
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and so terrified yeah and I really think
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it's beautiful to be able to trust that
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my body is healthy that I take good care
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of myself that I can be proud of my
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choices for the most part of course
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nobody's perfect but um I'm excited to
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be able to show our viewers um you guys
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are going to take me through all of
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those tests and we're going to be able
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to show you you know clips of that
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experience and what one might expect
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from from the the variation of all these
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assessments that you guys offer and um
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that way our viewers can see firsthand a
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little bit more about what that might
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look like so I'm excited to see and
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hopefully I'm healthy enough that my
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results won't be um and so I might have
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some shame resil opportunities uh
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because it does take some courage to be
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that open and that vulnerable but I
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think it's a good example to set for
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people and I have a a personal Mantra of
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I don't ask people to go anywhere that I
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haven't gone myself and I don't like to
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refer to places when I haven't seen
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firsthand what what they offer so I I'm
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excited for us to go down that Journey a
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little bit together and hopefully it's
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not going to make me want to kick my own
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ass about things that I've been doing
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and choices that I've been making but so
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so tell us a little bit about how the
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things that you see with with people I
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know that personally I would say that
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I'm at a baseline of pretty much you
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know I do all the things mental health I
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do exercise I eat pretty healthy but uh
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when I think about just my Baseline of
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stress I have managed uh and have had to
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learn to manage High cortisol levels
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just generally speaking and probably
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some adrenal fatigue and things like
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that because I go hard not unlike you
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shared with us in your in our last
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episode and so um I know that high
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levels of stress oftentimes come with
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people who are successful what are some
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other things that you tend to see from
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your patience over at rise that that
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you're addressing absolutely well I
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think there's we could go in a lot of
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different directions with this but I'll
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I'll I'll break it down into categories
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maybe with some actionable steps for the
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listeners so we could sort of just set a
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baseline sure and say you know these
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would be some great places to start so
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if we start with the things that we can
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control on a day-to-day basis which is
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what I like to do right in and stack
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stack small winds and good habits right
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it's not I never advise you know a
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client a patient anything like that to
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make wholesale change changes all at
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once in multiple facets we won't stick
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with them people never stick with it and
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and it'll be discouraging because
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they'll try to and then they'll fail and
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they'll say I can't do this right so
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what we rather do is pick you know one
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thing and develop a habit of doing that
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successfully gain some momentum and then
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add something right right so that's
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smart you know in the realm of nutrition
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that's an area where people have a lot
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of questions there's a ton of
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conflicting information out there which
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makes it very confusing uh but we like
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to really simplify it and I always think
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of it you can think of it sort of as a
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pyramid right and not the old pyramid no
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no the pyr the one I learned when I was
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a kid I was like that was wrong clearly
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that was wrong not the food pyramid more
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of more of levels of of you know a
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foundational piece to less important
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pieces that are still valuable but again
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less important so first is managing
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overall calories this is what we see
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most often times not accounted for and
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there's different ways to do this you
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know uh one way that some people may
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have tried others not I would encourage
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everyone to try it at some point because
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it's very enlightening is tracking your
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Cal calories I remember when when I was
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seeing you and you had me get um the
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carbon app the carbon app and I did it
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for I want to say like 6 to 8 months
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very consistently and it was that was
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actually what what helped me to learn
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there was there was something wrong with
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me because I was at a deficit operating
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at a deficit and I was not an overeater
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and I was just not budging when it came
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to like weight loss and you know that's
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when my naturopath and I started digging
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into hormones and what else is going on
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and and the picture of stress and when
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am I stressed and when are my cortisol
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levels high and all those things but it
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it was it was so frustrating
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discouraging because I was doing the
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things you know that I was supposed to
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be doing related to the calorie piece
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and I was just like so frustrated so
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yeah and so what you know you have to
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see if once you have that bottom layer
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established you can move your way up
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right which you did U but a lot of
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people are missing missing that base
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layer and and at the end of the day if
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you're if you're after body composition
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changes that is going to be you know the
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number one thing that you're going to
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have to account for to either lose
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weight successfully maintain weight gain
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weight gain muscle if that's your goal
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and and being able to track that will
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give you knowledge around what are
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macronutrients right proteins fats
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carbohydrates what what different what
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do foods have in them made up of those
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macronutrients a lot of people are
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unaware and so just gaining a baseline
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knowledge of that our food just
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generally speaking is so discouraging
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because of what we allow to be put into
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our food related to preservatives and
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chemicals and it's I mean you go to
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Europe and you just do not read the back
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of the labels they don't I mean you read
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them and they're totally different than
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the backs of our labels our our food is
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really unfortunate our food is certainly
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more devoid of the micronutrients than
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it used to be so going up that pyramid
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you know micronutrients are near the top
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that's where things like supplementation
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come in right because even if we're
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eating a well-balanced diet we may still
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be devoid of some of those nutrients
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that we need to function optimally you
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know things like you know you mentioned
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a couple of them what I typically
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recommend to almost everyone would be
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you know omega-3 fatty acids fish oil
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fish oil pills I've never had a doctor
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not say you need to be
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taking a day fish oil and I'm like
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that's so much fish oil yeah 2 to four
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grams that's right uh it's what I
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typically recommend uh and that's you
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know a couple big capsules not Everyone
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likes swallowing those big soft gels
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vitamin D is another big one and good
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quality fish oil I think that's another
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thing like for a long time I was taking
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one uh that was maybe it was like a
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Costco one and my doctor was like it's
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there's a lot of filler in this one and
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so you know we switched to a different
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one and even even how uh logistically
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like they're transported they needs to
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be kept cool and I've received rancid
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fish oil before where I I took it out
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and it was sitting on my porch in
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Arizona right I'm like there's no way
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this is going to be good sure enough I
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open it up sniff it smells fishy all the
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soft gels are stuck together so you know
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we have our own private label
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supplements at rise that we know are of
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the top quality and they arrive in a you
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know freezer sealed bag with a ice pack
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in there right so you know some of those
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attention to some of those details is
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very important as I mentioned vitamin D
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is another big one for people most
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people are
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deficient I mean we we in the sun all
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the time I just went to got my blood
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work back and I mean we're coming off of
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Summer here for us and I was in the Sun
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a lot I mean I'm Browner than usual and
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I just and I don't I only wear sunscreen
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on my face typically in my chest and um
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and I was I was low and d I'm like how
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am I low and d I've been in the Sun so
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much and I was still low and d So It's
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Tricky it's surprising and a lot of
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people you know even when they live in a
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warm climate the lifestyle that we live
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now you're not in the Sun as much as you
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think you know you're indoors it's hot
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outside you're trying to stay out of the
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sun um you know magnesium is another big
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one uh the soil and you know a lot of
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the the foods that contain higher levels
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of magnesium have been depleted of those
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you it's another one that it's hard to
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get too much magnesium um and then if we
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go up into another layer of supplements
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you mentioned you know even controlling
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cortisol like adaptogens can be very
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valuable for people those are things
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describe what that means yeah so an
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adaptogen is sort of uh you know they're
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typically herbs or or or natural
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compounds that modulate the stress
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response I think if I were to put an
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umbrella term over them it would be it
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would be that and and what that means is
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you know whether the the stress response
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is is elevated or sometimes suppressed
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it can sort of bring it back to a
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baseline so what um you said there was a
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few that you liked and I wanted to he
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what they specifically do yeah so
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ashwagandha is a big one people may have
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heard of it's it's probably the most
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well-known and most renowned adaptogen
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it's been used for centuries in a Au I
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can never say this word AIC medicine AIC
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it's the worst word ayurvedic medicine
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it's been used for centuries in
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ayurvedic medicine uh and it is a pretty
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potent cortisol modulator so it's been
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shown in studies uh and there's been a
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lot of actual clinical research done on
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it because of its popularity for such a
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long period of time to reduce serum
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cortisol levels up to 30% that's amazing
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so that's a huge change I know
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personally I feel a little more even a
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little more steady when I'm utilizing
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ashwagandha it's typically utilized in
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dosages about 300 to 600 milligrams a
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day and it can be beneficial because of
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that effect on cortisol for obviously
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sort of overall perceived wellbeing um
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energy levels because if someone's so
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wired all the time it can actually be
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fatiguing oh it's exhausting yeah uh
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things like purportedly testosterone um
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and some of those things that have an
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inverse relationship with cortisol some
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of those hormonal systems and even sleep
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you know balancing out and getting that
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cortisol down at night where you want it
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to be can help improve Sleep Quality so
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asag is one I recommend pretty often uh
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another one that is a little less
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popular that is also clinically uh shown
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to be effective is riola Rosa so R
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that's that's one I'm on it's disgusting
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I don't know how it tast Miss with like
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ginger and I have to just take these
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drops of it and it's just nasty but I'm
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doing it it works uh it works it's it's
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more I would say that ostranda is a more
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relaxing compound whereas riola is
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typically more stimulating it's also
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been shown to have a cortisol modulating
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effect uh but it's it's been shown in
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the research to improve fatigue under
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stress so both mental and also
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physically like aerobic exercise time to
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exhaustion things like that it's been
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shown to improve Exercise capacity so
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it's actually included in some
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pre-workouts now okay yeah and I
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personally notice a difference when I
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take you know about 300 milligrams of
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rodal or Rosa before a hard workout I
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have a little bit extra push interesting
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yeah so so fascinating when we can key
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in to the machine yeah I mean it's a
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machine and people you know will spend
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so much time being careful about our
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vehicles and the care that we put into
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our cars and things like that and then
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we'll just put just garbage into our
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machine that is carrying us through this
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this one opportunity we have called life
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and this Human Experience and we'll just
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take such crap care of ourselves and and
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really treat it poorly so I think it's
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awesome that you guys are looking to try
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to get people in a more proactive way
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optimizing the machine that is our body
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for yeah we we use that same analogy and
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you think about some of the things that
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we're talking about from a nutritional
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standpoint or a hormonal standpoint as
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well well if you think about your body
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as a machine you think about it like a
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car you know you could be you could
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build the greatest car possible you
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could have a Ferrari but if you don't
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know how to drive it if you're not a
19:11
good driver you're still not going to
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perform the way you want to so our job
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is to give you the best car possible and
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your job is to teach people how to drive
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it right but you could also be the best
19:20
driver but if you have a you know 87
19:23
Civic you're not only going to get so
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far right and so it sort of goes hand in
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glove but we want to make sure we we
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acknowledge the interconnectedness of
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those things and do what we can to give
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people the best chance to be successful
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that's really great so as far as like
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what you're learning related to this
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journey personally um hopefully you
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turned into tuned into part one and and
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understood Chris's why a little bit more
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but when you think about your journey
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and just this constant evolution of
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learning and what you have gained as
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part of owning rise and and this this um
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part of your life yeah what can you
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share with us well that's a great
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question I would say you know one thing
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that my team at rise and we have you
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know some of the best providers I think
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in the country in the state whatever you
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want to say um that they've really
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opened my eyes to is the difference
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between being optimal and being normal
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MH so you know when you look at if you
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anyone's ever had lab work and you see
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that reference range that pops up right
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and you say well I'm I'm kind of smack
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dab in the middle of that so I'm normal
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there's nothing I need to do especially
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when it comes to things like
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hormones you want to think about what
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does that what does that reference range
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represent I'm looking at the the average
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of the average American that's my age
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and my sex or you know whatever that
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reference range is based off of and so
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being normal for what that average is if
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you just look out into the population is
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not necessarily where I want to be no
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you know and so being optimal means you
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know symptomatically for me obviously
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within the guidelines of what's healthy
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for my body what's the best I can
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actually feel and not just settling for
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normal but figuring out what optimal
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looks like and that's more of an
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individual Journey for each person and
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that's why we have to take that approach
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you know we're very collaborative it's
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very communicative and so we're trying
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to figure out hey how are you feeling
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how are you reacting to this where can
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we adjust things for you to really give
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you that optimal uh performance and
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health and feeling for yourself and not
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just be like oh check yeah you fell in
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the average range well I look around I'm
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like I don't want to average sorry
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especially when it comes to my health
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right so that's been just a paradigm
21:32
shift for me um and I think just uh
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taking a more proactive approach goes
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hand inhand with that the earlier in
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life that I could get to a point where
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I'm feeling optimal the more time I'm
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going to have to stack just positive
21:45
momentum right I know at some point in
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life as I age we're all going to
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gradually decline in our physical for
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women we start it maybe it's the same
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for men you probably know this answer
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better but I remember hearing a
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statistic at some point like at by the
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time you're 25 you start to decline 5%
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every 5 years with your muscle mass
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without changing a darn thing about how
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you act and I'm like that's really
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depressing yeah you know different
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physical qualities will degrade sort of
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starting at different times um but you
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know at the end of the day the higher
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Peak you can get to the higher you're
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going to end up with that downward SL
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when you have further to fall you're not
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going to fall as far exactly right the
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bottom is is a better place you know and
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that's even the exciting thing because
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someone might be listening and saying oh
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well you know I'm 65 and I've neglected
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my health well the great thing about
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that is that that decline is assuming
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that you're essentially maxed out and if
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you're maxed out you're going to decline
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but if you've been neglecting your
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health you could be healthier at age
22:43
7075 than you are at 65 right I actually
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my mother-in-law she she passed away in
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June but she you know swears that she
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started going to the pool and she hadn't
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done that for many many years she had
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gotten a couple of knee Replacements and
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she started going to the pool when she
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did that and she she stated that she
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felt better at 80 than she did at 60 I
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believe it because she started moving
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she started eating better she started
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taking better care of herself and I
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think that's just it's just kind of
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reiterating what you're saying it's like
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yeah depends on what you're doing how
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this how you go out yeah absolutely yeah
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the old saying you know the best time to
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start was 20 years ago the second best
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time is today right now let's do that to
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and back to those small winds and
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controlling what you can control you
23:25
know you know getting to a place right
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like rise where we can actually help you
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discern with data with understanding you
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know where are your weak spots where are
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these areas for improvement give you a
23:36
plan and come alongside you with that
23:37
plan and say hey we're going to start
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here and we're going to fix this awesome
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and then once you start fixing that
23:41
momentum builds and we've already seen
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you know awesome changes for people four
23:45
months in right that's really cool well
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thank you so much for sharing all of
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this with us it's a wealth of knowledge
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and I know that is just like the tip of
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the iceberg as far as what you guys can
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impart upon your patients over there and
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I just appreciate appreciate your
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willingness to share with us uh this
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unfortunately a bit novel proactive
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approach to to to Medical Health and of
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course I believe that it's all connected
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our our physical health is absolutely
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goes hand inand with our mental health
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and vice versa and so I appreciate you
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you know partnering with me today for
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this show and we'll give you more
24:18
information about how you can learn more
24:20
about rise and some of the uh some of
24:22
the resources that they offer at the
24:25
website which is Rise Health rise Health
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a rise Health a.com um and we'll put
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that in the description below but um I
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hope that you found this helpful and
24:35
beneficial and you can find a wealth of
24:37
information on their website so thank
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you so much Chris for being here thank
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you all for tuning in to this show today
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and until we meet again don't forget to
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lead with love it'll never steer you
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wrong
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