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hi everyone I'm Kelly ooro and this is
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adaptable Behavior explained hi there
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thanks for joining us today on adaptable
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I'm Kelly ooro and I'm happy to share
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with you this really hard topic today
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that we're going to talk about uh which
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is infidelity I've had several requests
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in the comment sections on previous
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relationship episodes to do a show on
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this so um hopefully this uh can help
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you out infidelity is a really tough
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topic but it's pretty common and so
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today we're going to discuss why people
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can be unfaithful uh the steps that are
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needed to reconcile if that's the
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decision and the experiences both people
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might be going through upon Discovery or
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disclosure uh we're going to talk about
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statistics and potential outcomes for
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marriages that face this Challenge and
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so let's go ahead and get started so the
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first thing we're going to talk about
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are reasons that people are Unfaithful
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and there's many uh infidelity is really
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painful and it's complex and
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understanding the reasons behind it h
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can be you know maybe the first step
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toward healing whether you decide to
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stay with a person or not uh here are
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some common reasons why people might be
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unfaithful and this can be helpful for
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someone who who has been unfaithful as
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well as for the person who experienced
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the Betrayal so the first that might be
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hard to hear is a lack of Love sometimes
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people feel a lack of emotional
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connection or love or Intimacy in their
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primary relationship they've lost
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connection their lives have gotten so
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busy the stressors that are outside of
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the marriage become insurmountable and
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they don't feel that they're in
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connection with their partner and they
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don't feel like they're moving through
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life and the hard things in life with
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their partner so let me give you an
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example of a client uh let's let's call
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her Sarah she feels emotionally
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neglected by her husband who was really
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often preoccupied with work she felt
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like she was an item on his checklist
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and so she begins seeking some emotional
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fulfillment through an affair with a
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co-worker who gave her the attention
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that she was so longing for and craved
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and so when you think about this it
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starts out with a with a deficit in her
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own experience in her marriage now I'm
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not saying that this is an excuse of
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course we need to know we're having that
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issue and we need to address it with our
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partner with a therapist because
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otherwise we create um potential damage
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in our marriage or in our relationship
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by by finding that connection and
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attention outward another reason that
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some people have an affair uh is because
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of their desire for variety oftentimes
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boredom or desire for a new experience
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can lead to infidelity so again these
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are not good excuses these are just
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potential reasons that that start uh
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someone on this path so let me talk
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about another client let's let's call
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him John um he admits that he cheated
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because he felt his marriage had become
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monotonous boring there was never
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anything new and the excitement of the
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new relationship made him feel alive
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again well this doesn't have to be the
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solution because if you're noticing this
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feeling of uh monotony or boredom you
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know we want to encourage you to go to
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your partner and say we need to find
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some ways to spice this up and there's
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so many tools and tricks and books and
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you know things that you can find to
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create more spice and intention to liven
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up the experience of intimacy in your
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marriage another reason that people
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might have an affair are perhaps low
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commitment maybe they're just someone
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who don't necessarily see the um the
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commitment in being with someone and so
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that lack of commitment in the
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relationship or to the relationship can
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make infidelity more likely so let's say
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for example uh we'll call her Lisa she
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enters into her marriage uh with doubts
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and she never fully knows that or uh
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admits that to herself or certainly to
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her partner so she's not really fully
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committed at the beginning of the
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experience so then an opportunity for an
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affair arises she doesn't feel that same
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level of betrayal that someone who is
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more committed to their partner might
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feel and again this isn't a
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justification the damage is going to be
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just as painful because that's not
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necessarily the Assumption of the
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partner that's being betrayed another
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reason might be situational factors
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sometimes PE people uh have experiences
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like being away from their partner for
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long periods of time or under the
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influence of a substance like alcohol
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can lead to a lapse in judgment or
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prefrontal lobe um you know thinking
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irrational decision decision- making and
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there can be that lapse of judgment that
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can lead to infidelity so for example if
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someone Works frequently um out of town
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finds themselves in situations where
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they're lonely they're disconnected did
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from their family so during a trip maybe
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they have a one night stand after they
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had a heavy night of drinking this can
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be potentially easier to move through
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because it wasn't as premeditated and it
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can be perhaps easier for someone to get
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to forgiveness and understanding if this
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was the reason so these reasons can be
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helpful to understand often times what I
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have seen in my practice and partly
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because people will come in wanting to
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stay together and reconcile and they're
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really looking for the underlying reason
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that caused them to behave in this way
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in the first place because they don't
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want to be a hurtful person um often
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times at the root of that is self-esteem
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issues so someone with low self-esteem
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might seek that validation through
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infidelity they don't know how to ask
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for what they need they don't know that
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they deserve connection and so they tend
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to if something falls into their lap in
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a more easy way they they feel better
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about themselves from the attention for
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example a client struggles with
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self-worth and found that attention from
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someone outside of their marriage made
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them feel more desirable and valued and
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because of the Gap in their own sense of
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self-worth and self-esteem that was too
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um hard to avoid or to not lean into
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again working on those self-esteem
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issues and ultimately their trauma
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issues and their attachment issues from
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before the U relationship are going to
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be necessary to overcome propensity to
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do something like that again we can't um
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expect Behavior to change if we don't
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look at why the behavior happen
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attachment injuries from previous trauma
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for me almost always predicate why
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someone would would step out of their
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marriage because they don't have uh the
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same sense of values uh they don't
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believe they're worth behaving in
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certain ways and that's almost always
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from previous attachment injuries these
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past trauma uh injuries and attachment
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they significantly impact behavior in
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relationships um and that can look like
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so much external validation or really
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withdrawing and holding um self small
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and so th those things especially when
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when uh experiencing historical
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abandonment or neglect so talk about a
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client who experienced childhood
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abandonment they had a difficult time
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trusting their partner his unresolved
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trauma led him to seek comfort and
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validation outside of his marriage and
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so understanding some of these reasons
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can help both Partners address their
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underlying issues ues in their
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relationship and ultimately potentially
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help get to forgiveness and and
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understanding and building back of trust
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so let's say that you do find out your
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partner is having an affair or they
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disclose this and you decide you want to
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reconcile so we want to talk about the
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steps that are likely going to happen
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after infidelity uh and Reconciliation
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after infidelity is challenging but it
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is possible if there's commitment and
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effort from both Partners we can't have
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one partner uh have to do all the heavy
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lifting it won't work so some essential
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steps that are part of the
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reconciliation and I have to say a
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little disclosure here I have had
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couples that have massively better
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relationships after reconciling after
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infidelity because of all the hard work
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they were willing to do to get past that
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and more often than not they see there
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were a lot of injuries in the
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relationship even before the infidelity
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took place and so it's often times
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really helpful to do the work and get
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through it if that's the desire but
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again you're going to need to know that
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there's a lot of steps that take place
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and it's not an easy road so open
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communication is first and foremost
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learning how to be transparent honest
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and in order to rebuild that trust is
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absolutely critical or crucial and if
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that doesn't become part of how we learn
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to engage with one another there's not a
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chance that uh trust can be rebuilt so
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one couple I worked with let's call them
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Jessica and Tom uh they found that
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regular honest conversations about their
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feelings uh helped them to rebuild trust
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so they scheduled weekly check-ins to
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discuss their progress and then they
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were able to have a platform to discuss
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any lingering uh concerns that they
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hadn't addressed throughout their busy
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work weeks and that gave them more
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understanding about the foundation of
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their connection so again communication
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is key and that's really the lapse of
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all infidelity there was a gap in
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communication about what was going on in
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the person that um that that partook in
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their indiscretion accountability is
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everything the partner who cheated has
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to take full responsibility for their
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actions without excuses understanding
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the why is fine but it can't be part of
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their accountability so after an affair
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um taking full responsibility ending the
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contact with the other person agreeing
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to be transparent about whereabouts
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maybe even allowing Partners to track
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locations is part of rebuilding trust um
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with with a partner and so we need to
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understand that this is a normal part
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about rebuilding trust there's really
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not um going to be comfort in the
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partner that was betrayed without a lot
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of this forgiveness is key and uh when I
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was early in my counseling days I I saw
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this picture that I thought was so uh
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such a good visual representation of
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forgiveness because it's an action that
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requires a lot of understanding that you
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know when we're on let's let's use an
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example for like a fish hook if I'm on
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um on the hook with unforgiveness I am
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behind the person that hurt me on this
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hook and so I first have to let them off
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the hook before I'm going to be able to
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get off myself of the pain and get out
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of the stuckness and so it's it's an
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action that requires intention it
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requires a lot of work um and it's a
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critical part of the healing process so
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let me give you an example client Laura
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struggles to forgive her husband but
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through therapy through allowing herself
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to process her emotions she gradually
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Works towards forgiveness for uh her
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partner and ultimately for herself and
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some of the parts that she was dealing
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with related to you know how didn't I
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know it was going on where did I fall
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short why wasn't I good enough and all
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of that noise that was in her own head
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um helped her get to a place of
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forgiveness for herself in the parts
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that she was really beating herself up
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for and that is really essential for
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reconciliation as one of the steps to um
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building back uh a relationship and
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potential connection this is not a fast
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experience so the next tip is that
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patience is required it takes time both
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Partners have to be patient it can take
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years to re rebuild trust and if you're
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uh both willing to do the work I assure
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you it can happen so let me give you an
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example um let's call a Maria and Alex
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uh they understand that healing doesn't
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happen overnight they commit to being
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patient with each other acknowledge that
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they're setbacks and as part of the
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process and realize that they're both
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willing to dig in and continue whatever
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that takes both individual therapy um
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couples therapy and and a lot of
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accountability and transparency as part
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of that rebuild and I'm not sure it's
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very easy to get through this without
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professional help you've got to have a
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third objective party to help help you
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get through this it's so so painful in
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experience so seeking therapy can
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provide guidance and support and so uh I
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would say because uh Affairs tend to be
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so traumatic we want to make sure we're
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dealing um with a therapist who's
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trained in trauma therapy uh I
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specifically endorse EMDR therapy IM
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movement desensitization and
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reprocessing it will help address the
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body the trauma that gets stuck it helps
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reprocess traumatic memories images
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imaginal images that are usually part of
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the emotional distress that comes from
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having been involved in a in a
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relationship where there was a fair so I
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I can tell you that I've had a couple in
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my case load where um there's there's
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trauma injuries from both the infidelity
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um like the the loss of time spent with
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the partner in connection the
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understanding of what we thought the
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relationship looked like the the um the
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the trauma over all the times that a
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person said something and then they
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weren't being honest and so the uh the
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the betrayals over and over all the
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little betrayals of of the lies that
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took place in order to allow the
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infidelity to happen uh for the person
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who was betrayed a lot of self-image
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issues related to um good enough and
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body image and you know comparing of the
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person that the affair happens with so
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all of those pieces are really traumatic
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and so having individual trauma therapy
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uh for both parties is essential because
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that behavior like I said is often times
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rooted in in an unresolved trauma
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experience or attachment deficit or
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fracture from childhood and so that's
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where the inability to talk about or
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speak up or or get their needs met or
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respectfully end a relationship that is
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um that is not meeting the needs and and
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work has been done and and people can't
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overcome that so all of those things are
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going to be the better way to address it
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um and we learn more of this in in our
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work couples therapy specifically EFT or
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emotion focused couples therapy I highly
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highly recommend that can help focus on
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rebuilding trust helping to gain earned
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secure attachment back in the
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relationship after the infidelity uh is
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experienced and and all of those things
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are really often times needed uh in
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order order to rebuild and gain a
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connection or sense of trust um back in
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the relationship so next we're going to
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talk about um experiences that happen
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for people upon the disclosure or the
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discovery so finding out about
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infidelity can trigger a wide range of
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emotions and reactions and so I want to
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talk a little bit about what both people
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might experience um because it's a
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painful and it's a volatile time often
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times so many times there's an emotional
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roller coaster so the Betrayed partner
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might experience intense emotions like
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anger sadness confusion and they might
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totally shut down avoid uh denial being
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in shock all of these things might be
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part of what happens after finding out a
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betrayal has happened so let me give you
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an example uh let's call her Anna uh she
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discovers her husband's affair she feels
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this Whirlwind of emotions from intense
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anger to deep sadness um and indecision
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often within the same day and so that
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experience leads her to really feel a
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sense of um confusion about what she
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even wants to do another thing that
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might happen is the detective work and
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so the Betrayed person might start
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feeling the need to verify the truth by
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checking phones locations emails and
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other records again how extensive was
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the Betrayal and trying to ultimately
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gain a sense of control uh which often
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is an illusion uh because the feelings
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of finding this out are so powerless so
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after finding out about a liar of
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betrayal like this the compulsion to
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check things regularly um to try to self
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sooth or seek reassurance and
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transparency can be part of a behavior
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that follows uh discovering about an
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infidelity so it's very normal another
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feeling or a set of feelings that often
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happen following disc cing up um
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infidelity are shame and regret the
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Unfaithful partner often feels intense
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shame intense regret um if they do love
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their partner but they've had this
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indiscretion there's a lot of confusion
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often times about why they behaved in
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the way they did they can be overwhelmed
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with that shame and regret they can
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become really defensive because of that
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because the guilt of hurting their
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partner uh is so profound if there's
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children involved now the children
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potentially find out there's that sense
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of major change in the relationship and
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what this person may have meant to their
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children and how that can change and so
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it's it's really overwhelming as well
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for a partner that loves their partner
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while um having been involved with a
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betrayal or of infidelity there's also
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something that happens after so there's
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this kind of infidelity stress disorder
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it's not an actual disorder but it's
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basically part of an acute stress reac
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action that is really similar to PTSD uh
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where there's a lot of anxiety
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depression uh because now their
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relationship that they thought they had
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the um the truth about where it really
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stands is now part of it and so for
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example in in a in one couple both Lisa
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and her husband experience anxiety
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depression following uh following the
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revelation of her Affair requires
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professional support to manage these
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symptoms and ultimately we go back
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through all of the things that have to
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take place in the rebuild if they decide
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to stay together so it's not an easy
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fight but it can be really rewarding and
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beautiful if both parties are willing to
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go through the steps in order to gain uh
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rebuild trust and and connection so now
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let's talk about statistics and
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potential outcomes because a lot of
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people want to know that they say you
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know what are the likelihood that my
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husband and I are going to make it after
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finding this out so so the survival rate
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uh studies show that between 60 and 75%
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of couples stay together after an affair
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is discovered so many couples like Sarah
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and John chose to work through their
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issues and rebuild their relationship
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they find new ways to connect and to
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strengthen their bond and ultimately the
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repair uh of overcoming this this
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fracture in their marriage builds their
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relationship um to be even stronger so
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divorce rates um among infidelity
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approximately 20 to 40% of divorces cite
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infidelity as a primary reason so for
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couples like Emily and mark the Betrayal
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was too significant to overcome leading
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to a decision to part ways I've also
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seen um and this is really sad where the
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person who is betrayed they are
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unwilling to go do the work and so even
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when the betraying partner is willing to
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do the work to look at the why and to
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try to overcome and to change their
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behavior the person who was uh who was
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um cheated on they are not willing to go
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do the work to get past it because they
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weren't the one that created the problem
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in the first place and so there can be a
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stubbornness or a willfulness that
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prevents them um and also a desire to
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just protect themselves and not go
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through that um pain of the healing
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process and so we have to have both
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people willing to do the work in order
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to overcome the pain from infidelity
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long-term outcomes couples who work
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through infidelity can emerge stronger
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with a deeper understanding and
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commitment and I have seen this several
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times on my case load for people who are
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willing to commit and work through
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things and their relationships are far
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better after the months of uh months or
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even years of therapy and hard work they
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found their relationships were even
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stronger and more resilient than before
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the affair which makes a lot of sense
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the affair likely wouldn't have happened
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if the relationship was in a good tact
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so while infidelity is a significant
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challenge it doesn't have to mean the
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end of a relationship it's an uphill
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back battle it is painful but with
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effort and understanding the right
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supports and the willingness to work
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hard couples can rebuild trust and
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create a stronger Bond so thank you so
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much for joining us on today's episode
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on infidelity it is a difficult topic I
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know but understanding the reasons
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behind it the steps to reconcile and
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potential outcomes hopefully can provide
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you some hope and help move you in the
21:25
direction that you need to go for your
21:26
own life and if you are someone you know
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is struggling with infidelity remember
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that professional help is available and
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likely really necessary so thank you so
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much for tuning in um until next time
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take care keep working towards healing
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and understanding in your relationships
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and don't forget to lead with love
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because it'll never steer you wrong and
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that includes for self not just other