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Welcome to Adaptable | Behavior Explained! This episode goes over Mel Robbins’ Let Them Theory from a therapist’s perspective. We explore the psychological insights behind this mindset shift and how it can improve relationships, reduce stress, and foster emotional resilience. Learn how embracing the Let Them approach can help you set healthier boundaries and focus on personal growth.
I'm Kelly O'Horo, Attachment based EMDR Therapist, EMDRIA Consultant, and Advanced Trainer. I'm a mom of 5, Nonna of 5, wife, and a healer. I have the honor of spending my workdays walking along side people while they brave their healing journeys. I try to live with the generous assumption that we're all doing the best we can with what we know. Therapists are teachers for the "life stuff" and "emotional vocabulary" that may not have been learned due to gaps in our care givers capabilities. In the last 15 years I've learned that people are freaking amazing, resilient, and inspiring. Most importantly, we are hardwired for connection and for healing!
I hope to bring an authentic, compassionate, and unpolished approach while we explore a variety of topics such as parenting, marriage, relationships, dating, trauma, attachment, adoption, depression, addiction, anxiety, and love! There's a why for all behaviors and an explanation that makes perfect sense as emotion is at the root of it all.
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hi everyone I'm Kelly O'Horo and this is
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Adaptable Behavior Explained hi everyone
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I'm Kelly O'Horo and welcome to
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Adaptable Behavior Explained today we're
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going to dive into Mel Robbins latest
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book The Let Them theory and we're going
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to explore her concepts and how they can
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be applied in real life i loved this
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book i have been waiting for a book like
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this that's great for the lay person and
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I've been listening to Mel for a really
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long time and I just love her delivery
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her natural cander and she's just so
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cool to listen to and I love how she's
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brought mental health concepts into
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light so that we have other resources
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and so I want to get as many of you to
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read this book as possible because it
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was just so so good my husband and I
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listened to it in audio form and on the
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way to and from as we were traveling
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recently and I love that on the audible
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form I can check out each chapter and
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then I can also share with clients like
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you need to go listen or read chapter 10
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or chapter 13 as an additional support
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for their therapy so I think that this
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is really good um if you're a therapist
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this is a great resource but if you're
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not this is a good resource to have as
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far as something to help improve your
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growth and your work so the let them
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theory is awesome and we're going to
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give you some examples of how to improve
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issues related to the concepts that are
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found in the book some real life u
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connections and so I got to say that I
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think after this show today you're going
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to really find the eight transformative
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areas that she talks about are things
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that you can adopt and you're going to
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get a whole lot of benefit out of this
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i'm also going to make some comparisons
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to a couple of courses that I teach
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because there's a lot of overlap in the
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concepts related to codependency and
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boundaries and really the lack of
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boundary setting and our overfunctioning
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and potential behaviors that suggest I
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can't be okay if you're not okay are
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what are predisposing us to behave in
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ways that we do that she talks about in
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this book i'm going to go through the
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eight concepts that she discusses in
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brief and again you're going to dig into
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the book and you're going to get this
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book and you're gonna understand it even
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deeper so the first concept that the let
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them theory talks about is acceptance
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mel emphasizes the importance of
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accepting others as they are without
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trying to change them and this is so
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hard because we see the way someone is
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acting and we know that something could
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be better for them right we have an idea
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about how someone could change their
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choices and their behavior and improve
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the way their life looks and sometimes
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we invite our opinions when we haven't
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been asked so you know you have those
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friends maybe that are workaholics and
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are always busy when you're with them
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and you might be frustrated by their
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constant work interruptions or
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distractions with their phones and so
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one of the things we're going to think
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about is you know let them let them do
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what they're doing and then let you
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decide if you need to speak up if you
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need to set a boundary but ultimately we
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want to practice empathy and understand
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that everybody has their own journey and
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we want to respect people's autonomy and
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offer support without judgment now
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that's not to say that you don't need to
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speak up if something feels boundaryless
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for you so for example I have a friend
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that tends to work all the time and I
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can let him if he's got to work and he
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can't join us to be present that's okay
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i can also say "I don't want to do that
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tonight if you're not going to be able
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to disconnect from work for a little bit
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and hang out with us and be present."
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And I feel comfortable saying that but
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it took me a long time to get there
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because I was busy going "This is what
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he does." And and it's hard to be around
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someone who can't be in the moment and
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so we want to respect someone's autonomy
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we want to not have judgment about them
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we all have different working styles and
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habits that sometimes clash with what we
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would do maybe someone that you know and
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so we want to accept that people have a
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unique approach and then maybe we want
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to focus on collaboration rather than
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trying to change them so again let them
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do things their way let them work all
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night if that's how they choose to work
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and then come up with some compromises
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that work so that you can be in
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relationship with them the second
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concept that's pretty prevalent in the
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book is about boundaries boundaries are
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really hard to set when we are so
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concerned about being in disconnection
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with people but it's really crucial for
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maintaining mental health and people
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misuse the word boundaries all the time
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i can't tell you how annoying it is to
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me when people say you know I'm setting
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boundaries i'm never talking to them
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again and then my next question is well
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have you discussed with them how you
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felt about it when they said this or
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when they said that and then they go no
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I'm not going to do that and then I say
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okay well that's a wall that's not a
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boundary and so a boundary is a pathway
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to intimacy and connection a boundary
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says "Hey I love you and I care about
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you that the way you spoke with me
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during our last conflict that's not okay
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for me and I don't want to be around you
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or be in relationship with you if that's
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how you're going to treat me." So a
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boundary offers a pathway to connection
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and intimacy and so setting healthy
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boundaries like I said is crucial i'll
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give you an example about my husband a
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struggle of boundaries and growth with
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boundaries and then ultimately where
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resentment ends up happening so he's so
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wants to be a good guy he wants to be a
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good dad he wants to be a good husband a
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good papa you know and a good employee
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and oftentimes people will need him and
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want him to help with things because
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he's really good at things and he's
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really smart and resourceful and capable
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and so people ask him a lot of different
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things and he you know and I I have to
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say I'm probably the most guilty because
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he's right there in proximity and I know
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he does everything awesome but he feels
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overwhelmed often and he doesn't look at
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his own personal limits he's not great
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at saying no and he wants to please the
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people that he loves he doesn't want to
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be a disappointment like I said
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especially with me and so an area that
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he has to look at is this okay does this
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take away my bandwidth do I have
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capacity for it and we want to look at
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what we need to do so an improvement
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that I'd love to see him have is that he
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would define his own boundaries and then
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if he can't do something he'd say you
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know I can't do that right now but I can
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help you another time and that he would
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practice saying no a little bit more so
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that he could protect his space but this
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is an area that we all need to work on
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protecting our emotional space and
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looking at what do we need and what do
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we want and how can we better engage
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with people and express what we need you
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know I've got another example of a
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family member that will regularly ask
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for favors or interaction or he'll want
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to know what we think or want to share
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about something and it's like in the
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middle of something else and it can be a
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little bit disruptive and I notice in me
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I want to hear about these things
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especially because I care about you know
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his experience but sometimes it's not
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the best time so I'm getting better at
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you know politely but firmly saying "Hey
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I really want to hear this story can we
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catch up tomorrow i've had a really long
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day." Or something like that and so
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that's really an example about improving
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that boundary um because ultimately it's
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no one else's job to protect your time
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it's entirely your responsibility to
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protect your time and your own bandwidth
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which leads me to the next concept
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that's discussed which is self-
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responsibility we've got to focus on our
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own actions and responses rather than
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trying to control others so I'll give
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you an example and this is a hard one
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for me my mom ended up with diabetes
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when she you know a few years back and I
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was really anxious about her getting
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sick and her eating choices and
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concerned about what that was going to
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do to her in the long run if she didn't
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change her habits and because of my
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control and fear and anxiety about what
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was going to happen to her if she didn't
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improve her habits that she was going to
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get sicker and she was going to suffer
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and I didn't want to see that but
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ultimately you know I'm the only child
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and so that behavior is going to have
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some collateral damage and it's going to
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end up falling on my shoulders and you
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know if I really think through the let
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them theory I would have to let her eat
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how she wants to eat or control her
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diabetes or not and get sicker or not
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and then what does that mean about me
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well I'd have to let me set boundaries
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around how much I would help or not help
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or be there when things were going wrong
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and that's really hard right we don't
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want to tell people we love that we're
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not going to be there for them when they
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have made choices that ultimately have
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consequences and so that can feel really
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inconsiderate or it can feel like we're
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not loving and caring and so I really
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had to dig in and do a lot of work in my
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own healing journey around what was
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going to be okay or not okay for me but
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ultimately that I couldn't be obsessing
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about her behavior and her choices
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because it was making me mean it was
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making me controlling and it was making
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her not want to be around me and that's
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not the kind of relationship that I want
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to have and so I had to dig in and I had
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to go let them let her do what she's
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going to do she's going to suffer the
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consequences more than me and she
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doesn't want that so ultimately that's
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kind of how you have to look at this
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type of stuff so you have to focus on
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your own well-being you have to trust
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the people to make their own choices and
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you have to practice your own
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mindfulness and your own self-care so
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that you reduce your own urges to
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control things and so this is just a
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good example about self-control the next
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thing that we're going to talk about is
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the concept of letting go and this is an
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area that everybody struggles with
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because the last thing anybody wants to
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feel is powerless and when we feel
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powerless or we feel overwhelmed by the
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behavior of others we sometimes have
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this internal desire or need to control
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people and letting go the whole thing is
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about recognizing my own growth my own
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capabilities my own capacities and
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letting other people have their own
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journey let them fall down let them have
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their mistakes let them build their own
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resilience let them grow from their
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mistakes we cannot curtail everybody's
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journeys so I'm going to share an
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example about a client who really has
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struggled with this letting go concept
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and you know ultimately it's rooted in
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her history because she didn't have
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grown-ups that were there supporting her
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the way we need and so she often times
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ends up neglecting her needs when I
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started seeing her I should say she
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didn't have the best self-care she was
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incredibly overfunctioning with her
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children she was constantly trying to
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see what her husband needed even when he
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never asked her about things what would
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she do to take care of him she wants to
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be a good wife she wants to be a good
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mom and she's really nervous and anxious
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about missing something and she starts
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to get pretty sick and ends up having
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seatic issues and gastro issues and the
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root of this is she can't let go if
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something bad might happen and so one of
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the things that we had her working on
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was regular self-care activities letting
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go activities like you know her child
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forgets their homework at home and you
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know she lets go and lets her child have
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the consequence it's not her job to take
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the homework even though she doesn't
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want her child to feel you know
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neglected or abandoned ultimately the
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child doesn't learn to pack the backpack
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the night before if mom rescues the
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child and this is really hard when we
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don't want our kids to suffer
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consequences for whatever they have to
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experience and so when we adopt regular
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self-care activities relaxation exercise
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mindfulness you know it can be even
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things like taking care of getting
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manicures or pedicures things like that
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or massages once in a while so that you
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can prioritize your health these types
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of things help us to look at our own
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growth and let go of the need to control
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other people's experiences and it's
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really hard especially if you're a
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parent it's really really hard to let go
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of the outcomes that your children
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ultimately need to face in order to grow
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from life's experiences the next topic
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that Mel talks about in this book is
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resilience and we do not build
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resilience by doing the hard things for
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others letting people have actions and
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let their actions have consequences
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ultimately are necessary for growth and
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so in the the gifts of imperfection uh
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one of my favorite books by Bnee Brown
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she talks about a few things that are
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important on this concept which is in
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order to develop hope about things we've
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got to set realistic goals and plan ways
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to achieve them in order to stay
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motivated despite the obstacles and
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believe that things can improve and we
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need to use critical awareness which is
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recognizing and challenging societal
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norms that contribute to our feelings of
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inadequacy and shame so going back to
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that client example you know Martha's
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mom would bring her her homework and we
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have to realize like I have to do what's
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right for me so that my child learns in
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the ways of developing resilience in the
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way that I want them to and so we've got
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to allow for those comparative suffering
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type things that we do or societal norms
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we need to not allow those to contribute
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to our own feelings of inadequacy we
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need to refuse to numb the negative
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emotions people think that protective
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emotions are bad and that we should be
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really focused on feeling only good
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things but I've got bad news that's not
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how we're wired we are wired with shame
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and pain and embarrassment and guilt and
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regret and anger and all these other
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protective emotions and fear that are
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not necessarily connecting emotions but
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the whole gamut of emotions are really
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the beauty of being a human and we want
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to allow for all of the emotions to be
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able to be part of our human experience
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because that's how we can have genuine
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connection and ultimately joy because we
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can't just numb the protective emotions
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when we numb emotions we numb them all
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and so if we want to have a full color
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rainbow of life and emotional
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experiences we've got to stop numbing
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our negative emotions here's another
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area that a lot of therapists are
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reluctant to discuss and that's
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spirituality we have to recognize that
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there's an interconnectedness of all
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life and you don't have to necessarily
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believe in God but hopefully you believe
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that there are things that are bigger
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than us even if we're just looking at
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storms and waves in the ocean and
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recognizing that we are just part of a
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system so if we can recognize the
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richness of the interconnection of life
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we can find purpose and belonging and
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that helps us to navigate difficult
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times with more meaning about you know
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how we all tick and connect together so
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ultimately if we avoid these feelings of
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connection and things like that we end
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up lonely and resentful and so we want
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to recognize that if we don't practice
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bird of communication express our needs
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and preferences um we end up in
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disconnection and that is not helpful
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for dealing with resilience and we
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develop resilience by focusing on areas
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of improvement relationships and
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constructive feedback which contribute
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to maintaining our self-worth so the
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next thing that we're going to talk
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about is authenticity and I love this
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word it's becoming more popular but I
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think that for me it's really important
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because I struggled with a lot of
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perfectionism a lot of worrying about
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what other people think a lot of what if
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I do this what will they say and I know
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that it comes from my family system
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everything was you don't let people know
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our dirty laundry and we need to make
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sure that you look a certain way and
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chewing gum is uncou and all these sorts
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of messages that were given to me when I
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was a kid and so I became pretty anxious
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about the judgment or the opinions of
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others and so in doing some of my own
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personal work the daring way workshop
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that I am trained in and um Bnee Brown's
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work from Daring Greatly authenticity
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ended up being one of my primary values
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that I want to keep at the forefront of
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how I make decisions and basically this
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just means being true to yourself and
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letting others do the same my way is not
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the right way it's just a way and
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letting other people have ways to do
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their life really helps to give you
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freedom in how we manage and how we can
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let go of our way of doing things and
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it's more authentic to be able to go
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yeah I might do it this way but you do
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it that way and it's not for me and so
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let people be authentic to who they are
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and let them have the consequences they
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have for doing it differently than you
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and also let you learn things from
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people who do something different which
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is another twist on it and so I think
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that it's important to just step back
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and let other people handle their own
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lives and focus on your own growth and
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allow others to learn from their
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experiences i can remember Taylor my
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daughter-in-law she and I are very close
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and when she was a young mom you
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remember when you were a young mom and I
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would have like feedback for you about
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things that I thought you should do as a
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mother with Emry and you pushed back on
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me pretty hard you set some pretty good
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boundaries you remember that i for no
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reason you're like I I pushed back
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because I pushed back but truthfully I
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was out of my lane because unless you
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asked me what you should do it really
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was none of my business and so when I
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think about our early dynamics and the
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evolution of that feedback you know
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ironically I was too intrusive before
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and I believe I've backed off a lot more
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but I think by number for sure would you
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say yeah but like for number two you're
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like "Hey what was those things you said
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I needed to do with number one?" Because
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I definitely want to do that for number
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two by number three I was like "Do
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whatever you want do whatever you want i
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can't anymore with all of the the
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wildness like what to do yeah you're
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super outnumbered but I think that you
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and our relationship because has taught
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me a lot because when I think about it's
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hard to let them you know let your kids
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maybe not have warm clothes in winter or
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whatever but like it's also good for
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them to go "Hey mom I'm cold i need a
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coat." You know and let them have the
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outcomes and learning experiences and so
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I think that we have to stay in our lane
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we have to realize that people are going
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to do things the way they're going to do
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them and they can grow and learn and
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evolve and that we can come together and
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talk about things when it's invited
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yeah for sure so another thing that she
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talks about in this book that seems like
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a no-brainer but it's really hard to
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have empathy when we're mad at somebody
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or when we don't like how someone did
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something and then they have a negative
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consequence and so I want to share Bnee
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Brown talks about empathy as this
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ability to understand and share feelings
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of another person by connecting with
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something in ourselves that knows that
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same feeling so I don't have to have had
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someone die in my life to know what loss
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feels like to know what grief feels like
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i can tap into that feeling in me so
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that I can better relate with someone
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and true empathy done well really fuels
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disconnection whereas sympathy which is
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uh kind of a disconnected way to relate
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with someone drives disconnection and so
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some attributes of empathy that are
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really important to consider are
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perspective taking you want the ability
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to take a perspective another of another
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person and recognize their perspectives
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as their truth the next thing we have to
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look at with empathy is staying out of
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judgment we want to avoid judging
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another person's situation we want to
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recognize that they have their own lens
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of life and their own previous
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experiences and that's what drives their
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choices and their adaptations and it's
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not for us to determine if it's right or
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if it's wrong unless we're invited or
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asked the next thing about empathy is
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recognizing emotion you want to identify
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the emotion in others and then
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communicate the understanding so back to
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the example of loss it's like if someone
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I know has lost someone I can say "I I'm
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so so sorry that you've lost someone and
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I really understand and I'm here for you
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you know please let me know what that
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might look like." And that's an
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empathetic response ultimately with
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empathy we're feeling with people we're
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connecting with them by feeling with
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them rather than trying to fix the
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problem uh that's not supportive that's
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not empathetic to try to just fix
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someone's problem and it's more
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vulnerable to show up with empathy
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because it just requires you to be
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simply present and acknowledge someone's
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pain without trying to offer solutions
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and understand and respect their
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perspectives and so it can be a really
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vulnerable choice and if we practice
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empathy and realize that everyone has
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their own journey it helps us to better
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let them have the experience they're
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going to have it helps us to respect
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autonomy and offer more support without
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judgment something I commonly hear about
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with my clients is related to some
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things with family dynamics regarding
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political differences especially today
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and it can be really impassioned about
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where we stand with policies and
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politics today because we're seeing a
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bit of an upside down response in our
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government right now and it can feel
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personally powerless and so it's hard to
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remain respectful but we want to look at
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the person and seek to understand why
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they think the way they think we want to
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try to have a non-judgmental perspective
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about it so that we can make sense and
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stay in connection with people even if
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they have different perspectives than we
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have and it's really really hard but I
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challenge you if you have someone in
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your life that you work on this because
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there's so much sadness and
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disconnection and we just don't need
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more of that it's hard to hate up close
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so we need to move in and better
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understand what motivates people to feel
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the way that they feel which leads me to
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the last concept of the book that we're
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going to discuss which is personal
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growth when we're so busy externally
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focused we are not looking inside at
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what we need to do for our own goals our
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own dreams our own healing journey and
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so when we can let people be them and
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have their journey we can let ourselves
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focus on our own desires and goals and
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work towards the outcomes that we want
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in our own lives so you know going back
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to that client I talked where she put
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her husband's needs before hers and her
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children's needs before hers as she's
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evolved through her counseling
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experience she's noticed her husband is
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a lot more helpful her husband chimes in
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and supports parenting duties more than
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he used to her children are a lot more
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resilient they show examples of pride
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when they come through problem solving
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skills and she's able to set back a
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little bit more regularly and recognize
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that her lack of overfunctioning and
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overinvolvement is creating family
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dynamics that are improving in her life
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and she's liking what she sees so it is
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hard it is an adjustment but we really
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want to try to embrace some of these
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habits so that we can let go of outcomes
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that happen because of other people's
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choices this book is awesome i barely
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grazed the surface of it the let them
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theory gives you so many valuable
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insights that can enhance your
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understanding of codependency of
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boundaries because by letting other
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people be themselves setting healthy
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boundaries prioritizing your own
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self-care you're going to have a much
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more fulfilling and balanced life and
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relationships so I really encourage you
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get this book The Let Them Theory it's
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awesome on my bookshelf and I want to
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hear what you think about it it's it's a
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really good resource so thank you so
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much for tuning in i hope you enjoyed
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this episode i hope you grab Mel Robbins
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book The Let Them theory and start
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changing your own mindset about your
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interactions and responsibility in the
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lives of others so until we meet again
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remember to lead with love it'll never
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steer you wrong
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