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Hello? Hello, scrambling for the phone. Hello, David, what did you want to say
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Yeah, I think... I mean, Trump has legitimised assassinating leaders. So it's not a surprise that
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you know, someone's trying to kill him. I mean, I was listening to
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Clive Bull when this all started. Yeah. And it sounded like, oh, there's some
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loud noises, and then it's just And it wasn't surprising that this was going on anyway
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I mean, you know, what does anyone in America or Trump expect
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He decided to start assassinating leaders. He's getting it back, isn't he
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Well, who are you referring to what? Ayatollah Khamenei? Is that what you're referring to
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I mean, of course. Of course, there was a slight difference in that the Ayatollah was massacring tens of thousands of people on the streets
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It's illegal to assassinate leaders of countries. It's illegal. Yeah. It's just illegal
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I mean, it's just, you know, do you want to abide by the law or not? But also, I think King Charles is in danger
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I think King Charles is in danger because clearly the Secret Service has failed
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Well, clearly, yeah. They've failed and he's in danger there. But I don't think you say that, I mean, Donald Trump has, I mean
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The way that the whole Iran conflict or saga has played out
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is obviously has not gone to plan to give you understatement of the year But let not shed any tears for the Ayatollah David Yeah but Trump is a dictator
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Right. Trump has turned into a dictator. He's not, though, is he? In fact, he's elected
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He's turned into a little dictator. Yes. But thankfully, the constitution there means that he'll be gone
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after his second term. He can't stand again. The Ayatollah was there for 40-odd years
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because no one could get rid of him. Well, I mean, look, look. But then you shouldn't be assassinated
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Look, he tore up all the agreements, and now he's created the agreements regarding nuclear regulation there
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Yes, the JCPOA. And he's now created a great big mess. Yeah
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Oh, I agree. Nobody knows where it's going. David, I agree with that. But I think to say that he's legitimised someone's
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not necessarily in this case, we don't quite know, but clearly there was some targeting of President Trump
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To say that legitimises it, that obviously shouldn't be the case, David, should it
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I'd like to hear you say that. Yeah, he's done it with Venezuela. Well, he didn't kill Maduro, did he
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Yeah, well, he's just grabbed him and nobody... Sure, but I'd like you to say, David, that you condemn the attempt on President Trump's life
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Well, look, I... It's a really simple question, David. It's... David, David, you're not a minister on the morning rounds
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He loves all this attention and he loves his chaos. Yeah, oh, absolutely
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David, I'm not a supporter of President Trump, but I can criticise the way he's handled..
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He operates on this David you can pretend I haven asked the question I just asked all you like I can criticise what President Trump has done in Iran I also don Let me finish for Christ sake
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I also don't think there should be a gunman be able to get in with three weapons
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a shotgun, a handgun and knives, into the White House Correspondence Dinner
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And nor do you, hopefully, David. Look at what Trump's done everywhere
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Yes, I agree. You're creating chaos, assassinating people. I mean, how can you really say this is, you know
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this is just part of what America can expect, really? What is part of what America can expect
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Someone turning up at a hotel with a shotgun and a handgun
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They've got mass shootings every day there. Yes, but you can still expect and hope people not to shoot the president
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or have a gun in the same vicinity. Well, they didn't try to shoot him, so they didn't get to him. Oh, David, you know the point I'm making
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Being the same vicinity, I doubt he was there sort of randomly with a shotgun and a handgun, was he
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This guy could be just an urban terrorist creating chaos. So some idiot gets past two security checkpoints
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and you think he just happens to be at the White House Correspondence Dinner. Thank God you're not leading the investigation, David
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He's disrupting Trump's propaganda machine. So that's a good thing you're not agreeing
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Oh, see, there it comes right at the end, David. So it's a good thing that there would be this threat to President Trump
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Well, he's disrupting Trump's propaganda machine. Yeah. And through force through violence potentially Through shooting a Secret Service agent Iran are the only people that have challenged Trump Keir Starmer has pandered to him Europe has pandered to him
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David, you've made your position very clear. You are happy. David, but David, don't you see how you're sounding
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I am not a supporter of the president, but you are effectively saying
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if it disrupts President Trump, then it's absolutely fine to have an attempt on his life
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Are you hearing yourself? Everyone agrees it's good to disrupt Trump. What, even through threatening his life
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or someone having a gun in the same area as him? We don't know that really, do we
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We know that someone had a gun in the same area as him, David. We've just got some trouble on the outskirts and the perimeter
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so we can't be in contact. Okay, well, what about the literal shooting
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that took place in Butler, Pennsylvania, then? Well, I mean, I don't know what was the reasons behind that
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No, we don't need to know the reasons behind it, but we know that it clipped his ear, don't we
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So what was your view on that when it happened? Do we know that was real
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Well, what do you think they were aiming for? Yeah, but do we not know
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Could it have been faked? Do we not know whether it's... It's so tiresome, David
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What I find amazing is, in terms of critiques of how the president is dealing with Iran
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there's probably quite a lot of common ground between us, David. however I differ from you
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in the fact that I don't think the president's life should be put in danger which is a really strange thing for you not
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to condemn I'll give you one last chance to do it well
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yeah I don't think you should be put in danger right we got there eventually goodness for that
