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what are the challenges that cruise
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lines are going to have to resolve
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before they can start cruising again I'm
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Gary beverage this is another of my
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cruising tips for travelers I want to
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take a look at the seven things that I
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think cruise lines are going to have to
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do before they're going to be able to
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start cruising again these are things
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that I've seen people talk about there's
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a more my own views and I thought I
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would share those with you so what are
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the seven big challenges cruise lines
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face and have to have a plan to resolve
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the first big challenge they face is
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that it's not the cruise lines decision
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around when they can start up again
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because at the moment it's only the time
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recording this we have a blanket travel
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ban so in the US the CDC the Center for
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Disease Control has a stage for a
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category four which means that there's
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no travel allowed at all in the UK for
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example where I am the government has a
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travel advisory which talks about no
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travel indefinitely of course at some
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point of time there will be a date set
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for travel I do also think that cruising
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will be fairly low down on having
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restrictions lifted because of all the
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issues that were created and publicity
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of God before the and during the whole
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beginning of the shutdown and the
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lockdown so one of the big challenges
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they face is they are not able to be in
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control of when they want to start
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cruising in now of course that's true of
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all sorts of travels but I do think we
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will see restrictions lifted perhaps on
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Airlines quicker train travel that
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borders a closed ports are closed and
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don't see that lifting for a long time
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one of things I guess we've learnt this
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whole process is that the cruising
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companies actually do not have as much
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influence and political sway as perhaps
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they thought they did and that's largely
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come out through the fact that they are
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not incorporated in countries like the
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United States or the UK in a big
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cruising portal and place like Spain
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where cruises go out of and they
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actually have relatively little clouds
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and that really came to the fore because
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it gets really realized through the
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whole bailout process that both
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politicians and the public thought a lot
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about the fact that these companies are
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incorporated in tax havens panama
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liberia bahamas wherever and there was a
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sense that these are not national
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companies and also those who've seen a
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is entirely and totally a recreational
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activity so they're not in control of
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when they can stop Chris again I think
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that's one of the biggest challenges
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they face and it's gonna be low in
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priority for authorities to lift those
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restrictions that's a big big challenge
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the second challenge that Cruise Lines
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face is cruisers have become to be seen
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as not good for public health and
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relatively unsafe and unpredictable so
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cruising was always seen as this great
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unpack once move around of course what
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happened during the whole build-up to
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the shutdown is it was seen a risky
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place to be from a health perspective
2:52
that actually the viruses could spread
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quite quickly because of the nature of
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the people were contained it was also
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seen as very unreliable because of
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quarantine so people were worried about
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being able to get home they were also
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then worried about how they would get
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home and all the risks and dangers and
3:08
stress are being quarantined far away
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from home so they have tooth big
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challenges to face first of all this
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hostility from the lawmakers politicians
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ports we even saw ports that have relied
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historically or certainly earned a huge
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amount of money from cruising and cruise
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passengers becoming very hostile if you
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take a look at Florida for example we've
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got the three biggest cruise ports in
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the world they were very reluctant to
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take in ships that was had issues on
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board they started to bring in
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regulations where they were talking
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about the Coast Guard not being
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available to medevac or evacuate crew
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and passengers that cruise ons had
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organized it much more themselves they
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then brought out a restriction which
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said suddenly ships that were still out
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or her passengers during the lockdown
3:50
the crew or passengers coming off their
3:52
ships can't use commercial flights
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anymore it has to be charter flights so
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quite a lot of hostility towards the
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cruise line so they face that certainly
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from the ports and authorities and of
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course the public there's a real push
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against cruising by a big sway of people
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certainly what I've seen in the various
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videos that I've done around the
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shutdown and cruising is I've seen a
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large amount of people are very hostile
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to cruising and I want to see if kind of
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closed down I've seen the real die-hard
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cruises who keen to go back but even
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when I've asked them they're really
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talking about well maybe in 2021 I've
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seen was half the amount of people I
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asked about when they thought cruising
4:26
was sawed up when they go back
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almost half of those are saying it's
4:29
into next year so people are cautious
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about heading back out to sea that's a
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massive big challenge the cruise lines
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have to figure out how they're gonna
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overcome that so I think the third big
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challenge they face how can they make
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sure that nobody who is infected comes
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onboard a ship what we learned through
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the whole process is that whatever
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procedures were in place and as they're
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coming up the procedures they did not
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work so for example if you take
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Celebrity apex this is a ship that
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hadn't even gone into service just had
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crew onboard which were helping to keep
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the ship ready for delivery that had an
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outbreak on the ship and that spread
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through more of the crew on board so
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even before passengers didn't come
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aboard there had an issue and of course
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we know the issues that happened on
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cruise ships the very well publicized
5:15
issues what's also very important as we
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saw outbreaks happening even when
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passengers had been effectively on board
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for that 14-day normal quarantine period
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on ships which were stuck at sea for a
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long time sailing around the world
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trying to find a port one of the things
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we know is that temperature checks which
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is what was happening so I went on a
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cruise quite close to the shutdown
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however what we've learned is that's not
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particularly helpful because that only
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shows up once you have the symptoms what
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we've learned from this virus is that
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first of all it takes many days before
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you actually show any sides and you may
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not even show signs a lot of people who
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don't actually have any symptoms so
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actually temperature checks and it's
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just not going to work the other thing
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that Cruise Line's has historically
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relied on is basic self declaration so
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you fill out a form particularly lasers
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used about norovirus or other places
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that you travel to and it rely on people
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being honest people were not
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incentivized to be honest on those forms
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in the old screening process because if
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you put you have I've been suffering
6:13
from diarrhea or vomiting you were then
6:16
worried because you knew you're probably
6:17
going to be locked in your cabin and not
6:19
actually enjoy your cruise there was no
6:20
way that you can get your money back so
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there's no incentive for people to be
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honest so there's going to have to be a
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whole new screening process whether that
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ends up being medical certificates to
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show that you're immune or vaccination
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certificates when they're eventually
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available or some kind of physical
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screening at invocation and to make that
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then also going to have to be much more
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open and lenient around the embarkation
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and the cancellation process so what
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you're gonna have to want to do is if
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you are starting to feel ill in a wrap
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to the cruise you need to be able to
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know there's an incentive to actually
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pull out the cruise because you're not
6:56
going to be penalized and lose 100
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percent or 75 percent or 90 percent of
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your fare you need to know that when you
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get to your vocation if there's an issue
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and you're screened out medically that
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you will get your fare back so I think
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there's gonna have to be a whole
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different way of working out a screening
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process and a boarding process so they
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can ensure that people you onto the ship
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are not infected I'm not gonna bring the
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virus on board I think this is going to
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be absolutely key before ports are going
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to accept cruises they're going to want
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to know that the ships coming into their
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port are not carrying any passengers or
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crew who are likely to have the virus
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the fourth challenge that I think cruise
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lines are going to face is how are they
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going to make sure that once a cruise
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embarks that a virus is not imported
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from a port if you think about it when
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you head out on a cruise and you get
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into a port you head out into the port
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you're going to be going on tours you're
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gonna be interacting with vendors in
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stalls in shops loads of people where
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you go tourist sites whatever so of
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course there's a real risk that
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passengers or crew quite innocently
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aren't interacting I'm gonna bring it
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back onboard the ship now on an average
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seven-day cruise it is still possible
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and so on gets it early on that you
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could have symptoms and signs later on
8:08
in the cruise which then of course
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triggers all sorts of problems so the
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big challenge I think for the cruise is
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how they're going to be able to make
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sure that they can keep the ship free
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from virus as they start calling on
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ports and I don't know what this is
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gonna mean but they're gonna have to
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think around how are they going to do
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that whether it's certainly when
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cruising starts again they're almost
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going to have to go to no port cruises
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or only go to private islands where they
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can control things much more tests much
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more but it's a big big challenge to see
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how they're going to wrestle with that
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of course there's a couple of things
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we're seeing and I've seen some stuff in
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fact today that I was recording this
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from some of the cruise lines again ting
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cruise lines for example which a
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StarCruiser dream cruises they also have
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Crystal Cruises without looking at the
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whole process once we will embark so
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scrapping for example
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self-service at buffet having only
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served stuff at the buffet
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rigorous cleaning protocols you know
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lifts being cleaned every two hours
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Cavan's being wiped down multiple times
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equipment being wiped down multiple
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times so think there's going to be
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massive big changes and that all has to
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be put in place before cruisers are
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going to be able to get approval to
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start sailing again one of the other
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things that I think they're going to
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have to reassure people on is the whole
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air conditioning systems and whether
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that's actually a way that it spreads
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because airborne nature of the way that
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the virus is spread and whether air
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conditioning actually exacerbated
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particularly relation to the diamond
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princess one of things that really stuck
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out to me and again ting discussion
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document they head around what they're
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changing is they did talk a lot about
9:36
air conditioning and how the air
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conditioned air ball didn't air from
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outside I wasn't recycle there because I
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think they realized that both for
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passengers and I don't know whether
9:44
that's true for regulatory there's a
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real concern around the efficiency and
9:48
safety of air conditioning rightly or
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wrongly so those are things I think that
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are really going to be fundamental the
9:54
whole onboard process and how they're
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going to reassure make everyone
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confident that they're not importing the
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virus in one pour taking it to another
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port and I don't know how they're gonna
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solve that but I think that's gonna be a
10:05
big big challenge to solve I think the
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fifth area and challenge they need to
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face is how are they going to reassure
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passengers and also put in place better
10:14
procedures and ways of dealing if there
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is some kind of breakout I think one of
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the things they're gonna have to do is
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relook the whole Medical Center for
10:22
example so medical centers on cruise
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ships are designed really to basically
10:26
triage and do basic sort of help deal
10:29
and bring medical situations under
10:31
control and as soon as I get to the next
10:32
port they basically will get people out
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into the hospital if they need more
10:37
treatment so the idea is to come
10:38
stabilized and keep people going what we
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discovered of course during this whole
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process is ships have to have much
10:43
better or very different medical
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facilities those that can deal with
10:48
actually people who need much more care
10:51
ventilators or whatever they need to be
10:53
able to quarantine people much more in
10:54
the medical center and also probably
10:56
need much bigger medical centers even on
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pretty big ships the medical centers
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aren't that large because they don't
11:02
normally have many patients of course
11:04
that changed or did change during the
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breaks that happened on those few ships
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that where it happened I think also the
11:12
whole way of dealing with an outbreak
11:14
and the relationships with ports so they
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don't find that they're constantly
11:18
locked out of ports as we saw in the
11:20
outbreak and reassuring people that if
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there is an outbreak on board that
11:23
people aren't at risk of being stranded
11:25
at sea in quarantine having able to get
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off ships because I see a lot of cases
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people have contacted me saying one of
11:31
their big reservations about going
11:33
cruising again is that they're worried
11:35
that if there is an outbreak there then
11:37
stranded for weeks on end can't go back
11:40
into ports and all the complicated
11:41
things that happen that also implies and
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I think cruise ships are going to have
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to have a much more sophisticated and
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thorough way of planning ahead in terms
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of of these potential outbreaks so for
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example we saw in some cases in the
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run-up to the whole lockdown some
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governments were sending repatriation
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flights to help get passengers back home
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governments our base said that will not
12:07
be the case moving forward this is an
12:09
unusual situation so I think the whole
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way of dealing with an outbreak both on
12:14
board the facilities getting into port
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having regions with ports around
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hospitals people go to or facilities so
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if there is an outbreak things don't
12:22
happen and deteriorate in terms of what
12:25
happened on board and what also happened
12:27
in terms of getting not getting into
12:29
port as happening that whole run-up to
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the big global shutdown one of the
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biggest challenges I think facing cruise
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lines certainly for the next year is how
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to actually operate and fill ships when
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all the passengers are basically locked
12:45
out of cruising in the run-up to the
12:48
outbreak all governments of sending the
12:51
major crusing governments strongly
12:53
recommend the people over 70 didn't go
12:55
cruising in the lockdown simply are also
12:57
being encouraged to stay at home right
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the way through for many many months and
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it's very unlikely that even if and when
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cruises is allowed to start operating
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that governments are still going to
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recommend cruising to the 70s what you
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have to do now if you're over 70
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although it's not happening because of
13:15
the shutdown at the moment what you had
13:16
to do and it's still applicable is if
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you're at a seven do you have to get a
13:21
saying that you can cruise so
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restrictions on seniors traveling
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anywhere in the world whatever form is
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gonna have to be lifted then secondly
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what documentation or what they're going
13:30
to need before they can travel is gonna
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have to be absolutely simple and clear
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to do that is a massive issue because
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there are many cruise lines that rely
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very heavily on seniors and many cruise
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lines have lots of passengers in their
13:43
70s and 80s river cruising for example
13:45
lots of ocean liners that for much of
13:47
the year they have a much older profile
13:49
and that is potentially locked out those
13:52
people are probably gonna be very
13:54
nervous of traveling or even not
13:56
encouraged to travel or even big
13:58
restrictions on traveling I think your
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travel insurance and they their founders
14:02
but lots of pressure on not to travel so
14:04
how can they cruise when a major major
14:06
part of their audience is not going to
14:09
cruise for a long period of time
14:10
probably not until this vaccines another
14:13
big challenge they Cruise Lines are
14:14
going to face is passengers being
14:16
willing to travel because they can't get
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travel insurance now what we found with
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travel insurance is there's two critical
14:22
things one is that travel policies do
14:25
not cover pandemic related incidents so
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everything that's been going on and any
14:31
new thing that breaks out is not going
14:34
to be covered by travel insurance so
14:36
that's the mass the mass editions the
14:37
cruise lines have to accept that if
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there is some issues they're going to
14:40
have to cover a lot of those costs and
14:42
secondly there may be more and more
14:44
challenges or very very high premiums if
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you are buying travel insurance that
14:47
involves cruising already when you book
14:50
travel insurance you need to make sure
14:51
that it does have cruising cover because
14:53
they are potentially some really big
14:54
costs if you fall ill not related to
14:58
panic you fall ill will you to be
14:59
evacuated from a ship or you need to be
15:02
repatriated as quite of costs involved
15:03
with that whole process so sometimes as
15:05
a an extra premium so people are going
15:09
to be very nervous to travel without
15:11
travel insurance covering non pandemic
15:13
stuff as well as what happens if things
15:15
break out and is a pandemic one of the
15:17
solutions may not have been the cruise
15:18
lines are gonna have to build some kind
15:20
of guarantees and insurance into their
15:22
fares covering whether it's pandemic
15:24
related stuff or non pandemic related
15:27
stuff so for example in the UK saga
15:29
cruises they actually build insurance
15:31
into their fares because they have
15:33
had an old audience because they target
15:35
fifty-plus but they've had many people
15:37
in their 70s and 80s that struggle to
15:38
get travel insurance as it is even
15:40
before all of these issues so I think
15:42
there's a lot of challenges that cruise
15:44
lines have to solve to really get the
15:46
authorities on board governments on
15:47
board and ports on board before people
15:50
are going to be willing to let people
15:52
embark ships and set sail around the
15:54
world do you have any other thoughts in
15:57
terms of what the challenges of cruise
15:58
lines are going to face before they
15:59
start cruising again please feel to come
16:01
in and have a discussion and of course
16:03
try and keep it as friendly and civil
16:05
and good as we can keep the discussion
16:07
it's good to hear what people think if
16:09
you want to find out much more about
16:10
cruising I've loads more videos about
16:11
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16:13
term and of course if you're looking at
16:15
inspiration for future cruising once we
16:18
passed all of this and the challenges
16:20
are solved I have loads more on my
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