The Rondo - Fans Hot Takes

You guys have some crazy hot teams

Today, we're back to grade them. Do you guys know ball? Or are you guys just rage baiting us

Let's get into it. Let's get the first one out of the way

Graham Goodman, 4212 says, Tottenham shouldn't be in the big six with the likes of Villa being more successful

That's actually based. That's actually based. I'm a big fan of that

I'm actually a big fan of that because... I don't know if I'm a fan of that, bro

Even if it's an Arsenal fan. I'm a big fan of that. graham thank you because you know what like the rest of the world is too scared to hear what you

have to say i think aston villa are a bigger club and they're more sustainable i feel like tottenham

they got their trophy last year right but every i don't know the the rest of it there's a lot

in between right it's like champions league final yeah guys we did it and then it's like wait wait

wait win the europa league in a season where they actually finished 17th aston villa more sustainable

whatever honestly not that hot of a take get an a from me what you think i think i'm

Real quick, I might sound like an ill boomer, but are we saying base

Like, what does base mean? Base means like it's good. Like, it's valid

It's valid. Okay, nah, I think I'm going to have to agree with Talon on this one

Because I don't think anybody has any God-given right to be in any position

Like, you really got to work for it. Yes, United fan. That's what I'm saying. It's like, yo, I mean, like, as a Man United fan, I would love to sit in this position and be like

All of us deserve to be. The traditional top six deserve to be in the traditional top six

But I would sound absolutely deluded if I said that. Because if a football club is not run properly, if the players aren't working

if the coaching is not working for whatever reason, then as simple as you don't deserve to be there

You know what I mean? And I just, I can't sit here and tell y'all that as a United fan

Spurs or anybody should be in the top six because they're in the top six. So A through F, what are you giving it

It's a hot take. I'm going to give it a B minus. Whoa, specific

Bro, I can't believe right now I'm about to debate Tottenham being great. I wouldn't say, all right, listen, this is crazy

I do think that Tottenham at the end of the day, they've proven, honestly, bro, they might be a top six side, bro

They're competing against PSG last month. They did really well. Or what was it

They competed against PSG this month. They lost, you know what I'm saying? But to show that they can do it at that scale, they won the Europa League as well

And Thomas Frank has came in and they're playing good, bro. They're playing good football

Do you know what happened with Nuno Espirito Santo? Do you remember? I mean, yes, I know what happened

I'm familiar. One of those three games, right? Yeah. And then... I think with this Tottenham squad, I think they have something about them, though

The only thing, though, their overconfidence is kind of pissing me off. Did you see Jed Spence's Instagram post where he was like

he's like, bring on your winger to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, bro, watch you get cooked next game

You know what I'm saying? It's crazy, bro. What are you ranking that, though, Tom? A through F

Well, he said the Villa's better, right? Yeah. A. Well done, lad

All right. i have to grade that bro i'm a grave i'm a grader to see i see aston villa they're successful club

they're coming up but it's not like villa has really won anything yet they've won a championship

when back in the day man don't get it out you can't be using bass bro trying to be a football historian you know what

i'm saying always had a soft spot for villa that's all i'm saying yankee spam says i just

first of all sorry what is that instagram handle yankee spam that's a that's a youtube name that's

worse yeah i don't know what yankee spams is oh i guess it's like yank like american spams like

messages that's that's dumb that's dumb i'm sorry yankee spams wherever you are all right yankee

spams i just know i'm gonna be bombarded like crazy messi only deserved three to four ballon

doors shut the f*** up whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa okay i know there was one year in particular that

cr7 had a chance of winning but if you go back and look at the stats bruh in my opinion i think

I think Messi deserved every Ballon d'Or he got, bro. Okay, this is the thing, right

If you assume that the Ballon d goes to the best player in football Lionel Messi should have had 15 Yeah Right Like you give Ronaldo one or two in there because I don know like treble whatever something silly abs per 90

Like, some kind of dumb s***. But, like, Messi should have 10

Messi should have 10, which makes that take stupid. Give it an F. This is the thing about hot takes

Is that, like, people just saying things. You know what I'm saying? I dare, I dare, is that Yankee Spans

Yeah, Yankee Spans. I dare you to pull up to Corona, like, flushing back off your Corona

And say that with your chest. I dare you to go to Buenos Aires and say that with your chest. It's crazy talk

Sorry, the way John just said, pull up and say it to my face. Not my face

I'm just saying there's got to be more. I do get where he's coming from, though

Because I do understand that there were some years where you can kind of feel like maybe the Ballon d'Or, like the organization

Okay, there was one year in particular. Do you guys remember the year when Ribery lost it? Was that the year that Messi won

Bro, grow up. It's Frank Ribery. But was that the year that Messi won it and Ribery was supposed to win it

Or someone else won it? I think it was Lewandowski. Wasn't it Lewandowski? It was Virgil van Dijk that came quite close

But still, it's Lionel Messi and Messi. But this is what I'm saying

Already, we're kind of saying, was it this guy? If it was actually him, I guarantee you, at least one of us would be like, yo, it was him

It was definitely. But already the fact that we're just kind of like, I can't remember. That just goes to show there was at least enough validity for Messi to claim it

I wouldn't challenge that. I'm not dying on that hill. What did you say? What would you grade that hot take

I don't know about an F. I'm going to give it a D. I'm going to have to grade that hot take. That hot take deserves a D plus, bro

You know what I'm saying? I feel like... Stop. Stop. I feel like there's only one year where Messi could have maybe lost it

and that was the Riberi year back in 2012. But other than that, bro, what are we really talking about here

It's Messi, dog. Like, you know what I'm saying? Whenever Messi wins a Ballon d'Or, it's honestly rightfully deserved, bro

Yeah. At the end of the day. I don't get... Sorry. One more thing on that. When people got mad that he won one after he won the World Cup with Argentina

How would that's the one that's the most deserving you want to work up he ended everything that every discussion was that was it like if that ever was a goat debate it got ended that yeah it did

Oh I just I would like to add though that like that conversation I remember that year was because people were saying that statistically numbers wise he wasn't really pulling up to it

It was just that World Cup thing that really glorified him to that found door but football is about stories that complete the story and that if there's any Ballon d'Or deserving of a moment it is that

One of the greatest ever, Lionel Messi. And this is, for me, as somebody that appreciates both Messi and Ronaldo

one of the greatest ever to finish, complete the journey. You know what I'm saying

Like, we all watched anime before. That's the pinnacle. That's the pinnacle, baby. That's Goku hitting Super Saiyan

Ah! Arjirit! Arjirit! You know what I'm saying? I've got no idea what that means, but..

See, I didn't know base. He didn't know Goku. There we go. I've seen Goku on Fortnite

Does that count? Nah, that does not count. Let's go next. This guy's Gen Z, bro

Let's go next. Next one, we got one from Lego ZG3HS. That's a pop

He says, my hot take is Benzema's better than Luis Suarez. I'm gonna go first

That's a W. That's a 10 out of 10. That's an 8 plus. John, that's heated, bro

Tell us why. Look, Suarez, if we're comparing pound for pound, I think Benzema is a much more clinical

Top. Stronger, faster, longevity. Wrong, wrong, wrong. If I had to pick my, if I had to pick the best nines

and now you gave me Benzema Suarez, I'm going Benzema 10 out of 10. 10 times out of 10

What do you think? Suarez maybe had a little bit of that, like he was unstoppable moment

but that was such a short period. So, okay, go ahead. So Luis Suarez was the best striker in Europe

from 2014 until about 2017, 16. You could make a case for 2018 as well

I don't think Benzema has ever been, and yes, he won the Ballon d'Or

but I don't think Benzema has ever been the best in the world at his position, like consistently

And Suarez, look, Benzema is an unbelievable player, a lot of respect for him

But Suarez better goalscorer better dribbler better work rate I mean better passer Could you make that argument I don know man And look the Liverpool fan in me as well is like

that Liverpool team was bad. He hard-carried Liverpool for three years. He hard-carried Liverpool for three years

got more goals than Messi and Neymar for Barcelona. And then after Barca cut him, basically

said, you, and won La Liga with Atleti. that is a dumb take for me honestly at the end of the day bro i honestly think that kareem benzema

has so much of his career based off like the last two years he had at real madrid if you guys

remember back in the day they used to yell at benzema bro like ronaldo used to be furious at

him for missing bunch of opportunities when he was playing with gareth bale especially when he

first came back when he first came from leon it took him a while to really find his footing and

honestly benzema always seemed like a complimentary piece than like the star number nine that you

build a team around you know what's funny is that he had the same thing that um rooney had at united

in the if you got the sense that if benzema was ever the star in his prime like they'd be really

like but he'd like sacrifice himself for the team a little bit like they stuck him out on the wing

basically because ronaldo had to play through the center what's that like but like i i think

genuinely it's hard like i i i sympathize with the point of view where people go man if he'd been

using his best position his whole career like whoa but like but he wasn't so he's not so i think that

take i'm gonna give it a c because i see the argument but i think at the end of the day i

think louis suarez is a little bit of a level ahead of kareem benzemon i've gone a f f what

you got john what did you give it i'm gonna give that a b plus b plus i gave it a c bro okay i see

the argument the way that both of you are just on the fence you're like yeah it's okay all right

next take from footballer 7717 pochettino was an even worse manager than ten hog he was the one

who couldn't win ucl with neymar messi and bapé and the one who used son as a left back in the

final lord have mercy pochettino's definitely a better manager than ten hog i don't care what

anybody says i've seen ten hog ball and that was some of the worst football i've seen in my life

sorry not sorry i i don't even know what to do with that yeah i don't know i don't know what do

you think about that john i think with the greatest respect i have a lot of respect and love for pochettino but i think ten hog was just i think ten hog was just at the wrong place wrong

time and i think he's actually a really good manager but i think ten hog gets disrespected

i think a lot of what he's done at iax gets just completely overshadowed yeah uh because of his

time at united remember at united he's had to deal with uh cristiano ronaldo that had to

rediscover himself in that era where he was kind of like waning and figuring out can i still stay

in europe do i have to go somewhere else you have to deal with a lot of that on top of all the problems we was having at Man United with respect to Jadon Sancho. We're talking about people bringing

an ante. There's so much things that he's had to handle, and he's still won trophies at the end of

the day. So, I think that's, I think that's, I don't know. I think Tano's a better manager than

Poch. That's a flame. I don't know. I think Pochettino, the way he made Southampton relevant

the way he basically, and I buzzed earlier in this segment. He brought them to a CL final. He brought

them to a CL final, made them competitive in the Premier League with honestly not that much money

and i mean that psg team and if you want to make that same argument about walking into a dumpster

fire look at pochettino and psg so look and the argument that he couldn't win the champions league

with like neymar mbappe whatever no one could no one no one could no one could that's that is that

is a fundamentally imbalanced team and that is like one of the biggest misconceptions in football

in recent years like oh you got missing neymar and mbappe just go and win everything no like

That's so obviously not how it works. So yes, while I will give you that Ten Hag probably gets too much

Pochettino's streets ahead. So I'll give it a D. What are we rating this take? D. D

Ten Hag is better than Pochettino so I going to give that an A for you What did you give that I going to give that plus wow yeah i gave it a d because i think ten hog is i mean the i act stuff was reasonably impressive the way i

putting it is that if ten hog was the usmnt would they be that much better probably not so i'm gonna

give it a d all right last hot take is from abdul barry zi8vi tegea is the best goalkeeper after

after Gianluigi Buffon? Ever. Ever. Ever. So it goes Buffon De Gea

It goes Buffon De Gea. Buffon De Gea is in his rankings

Boy, ain't no way, boy. You ain't go tell me De Gea is the second best goalkeeper ever

That's a little insane. I'm not even entertaining that. Yeah, I'm not going to entertain that, bro

I don't know. I feel like producer Ken is like, debate it, idiots. However

Oh, God. However. However. If we're talking prime De Gea, I'm trying

I'm trying, y'all. I'm trying. If we're talking prime De Gea, maybe there's a conversation

Maybe. Prime De Gea. No, that's a crazy take. De Gea. De Gea

Top two. Dude, Dave saves, man. Like, he had a moment, but come on now

But that moment was long, though. It was. If that De Gea. Remember, that fact situation where De Gea should have went to Real Madrid

and he ended up staying. if he did go there could have been that conversation he got i hate that i have to say it this way but

he did get stuck at united and he carried this team i can't even as a united fan i can't even

tell you how many times i was at the edge of my seat clenching my ass because i was like oh my god

how did he stop that yeah how i can't even tell you how many times i've seen rival fans go there's

no way he should have stopped that yeah like i can't that was for five like five years bro and

considering the fact that when he first got to mentions united remember how much he was struggling

bro if you think by and dear can't come out for for corner kicks you should have seen the hay

back in the day bro i remember the hay against west brom people used to be like yo he cannot

handle the physicality of the prem the center backs are destroying him on his line during

corner kicks for him to evolve into the goalkeeper who he was at manchester united for the amount of

time he was at manchester united it's pretty phenomenal bro honestly i gotta give david

day his credits but in no world is he the second best goalkeeper of all time when you have manuel

neuer courtois yeah before you can make an argument that bouffon isn't even number one yeah like i

don't even know if before is number one myself bro i think now allison's got had a better career

than david de jane yeah i think so but like but like david de jane still for a while was a really

good goalie but i don't think he was ever the best in the world either no he was there was one there

was one or two seasons where he was there's one season yeah there was one i would say i can't

remember the exact number but there was one definitive season where he went crazy and everybody

was like yo this guy deserves if there was the yashin you know nostalgia merchants gonna say

you love yashin number one or like oliver khan but what do you guys rate that take it's enough

i'm not to give that an f my boy i don't know about that man ablubari looks like you love

the hay a lot my boy clearly but out of all these takes who deserves the fan nose ball award

the first one tottenham shouldn't be in the big six with the likes of villa being more successful

all knowledge or benzema better than suarez i like that one better you like that one ah

okay so we got the first one for you from uh graham goodman 4212 graham goodman you are a

legend your guy's lego lego zg3hs my guy has to be i'm gonna have to give it to lego bro no no i'm

have to give it to graham goodman actually i didn't even like any of those takes I don't even know what I like bro

Raheem's conclusion Honestly bro I don't like any of these takes dog

We gonna move forward with that bro Let us know in the comment section what's your football hot take

And we'll review it in future episodes