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[Applause]
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let me tell y'all something I get a
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chance to talk my freely
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now before I even talk about them let me
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talk about the people they've
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impacted how about we start with
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that just some of
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them when I first met Destiny's
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Child that launched the career of one of
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the greatest artists the stage has seen
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in this modern day era by the name of
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Beyonce that was because they were in
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the boo uh in the Bay by way of I want
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to say Grassroots entertainment oh boy
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right yes sir and these amazing women um
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needed an anr they needed development
0:43
they needed somebody to put the
0:45
cohesiveness together to make Destiny's
0:48
Child who they became legendary pop girl
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group who are the founders of Grassroots
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entertainment we got Dwayne Wiggins
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right here here from the one and only
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Tony Tony
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[Applause]
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Tony kesa
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Cole
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Zinda
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Kanani was what a group called Pop Life
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yes sir right I remember this clearly
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because I was hosting an event at Lany
1:22
college with big
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Von wow and Mr Fab oh you pulling big
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I'm going deep I got to go you was there
1:32
I was there you was there I got to go
1:35
deep all of these multiplatinum
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multifaceted artists all had a origin
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and you could lead that origin back to
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this amazing group we only got really
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four official albums from them but we
1:49
play music from those albums decades
1:51
later absolutely they make classic music
1:54
they make authentic music they make
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music that was created from the Bay Area
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I remember them performing with groups
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my favorite group of all time Earth Wind
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and
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Fire Rick
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James got CED out
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GL one of the ones got cussed out by
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Rick Jam loving it man come on man uh
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these men have been very instrumental
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and catapulting the bay and keeping the
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relevance there at the time when they
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came out when that uh first album came
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out in 1988
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it was called who and that was an
2:32
affiliation with Foster and M Elroy yeah
2:35
and we talked about time at Social Club
2:38
and we talked about club newvo and all
2:40
of these different lineages that led to
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this group we know as Tony Tony Tony
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when the Revival came out in
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1990 and they produced their own project
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and all those major hits start coming
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this was at a time when
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R&B was being kind of frowned upon on
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yeah lightweight we'll talk about that
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right so before that Neo Soul era that
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we so uh you know abundantly celebrate
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which we should shout out to Neo Soul uh
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before even when we start seeing the bad
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boy era of artists and R&B and and Hip
3:19
Hop becoming that hybrid Tony Tony Tony
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in my opinion was the first group to do
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that in the way that they did it
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successfully and not be stigmatized by
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being an R&B band because the music they
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made worked across the board okay I want
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to say that I want to say this because I
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want us to acknowledge the royalty
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that's coming from our area called
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Northern California if I spent the day
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here talking about all the accolades all
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the awards all the artists that these
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fellas helped blow up we won't even be
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able to get a chance to say hi but I
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will say this I'm EX
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and not to mention I've been on some
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projects too I always celebrate instant
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vintage when me and Ray was hanging out
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and you know I was whooping his ass in
4:09
ping pong um you let that happen that's
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true I want to say thank you to you all
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because when you came out with that
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first album um life is too short was
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coming out that same year Hammer did his
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Revis version of um his album Let's Get
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It Started there was a lot of rap
4:29
happening and I was working at the music
4:30
people at that time with the Blain
4:33
family Jason blae Jason Blaine and
4:36
Elliot Blaine and and I got a chance to
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watch your music circulate right because
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I was working in the back and I I didn't
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you know I knew you guys you know we all
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knew you um um being from Oakland and it
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really educated me on how the business
4:52
work you know watching you guys come up
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watching two short come up me and keing
4:57
Tech put our first single out in 1988 of
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course because of that what I was
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learning from y'all so the fact that
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they're back together the world has
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another reason to celebrate because the
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music creates vibrations and energy in
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our blood cells that makes us feel good
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whenever we hear it put it together
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ladies and gentlemen it's Standing
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Ovation in your trucks in your cars on
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your treadmill if you in your bed on
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your headset give it up for the one and
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only Tony Tony Tony is here they're
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here damn it
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F in the
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[Applause]
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building up man he say like that
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you these dudes are from the F they not
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going to say this they not going to say
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this stuff I'mma tell
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you the
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roots contracted
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them to work this was before the
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roots they were doing the
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roots before the roots right and that
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that's not a knock you know cuz tari
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made it a whole to totally different
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Dynamic you know black thought but I
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want to welcome y'all to the show man
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it's good to see y'all y'all look good
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too the hell what the hell y'all eating
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Tim
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everything oh man Dwayne wiggin Rafael
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Tim welcome to the show man love to have
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y'all here love good to be here always
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good to see you sway you know that
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absolutely man always good and to have
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y'all here together what inspired y'all
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to come back together again was it a
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moment is it something you saw oh yeah
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it was definitely a moment
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um that damn billboard put up around the
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lake that inspired what billboard I put
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like this um well I didn't tell them we
6:47
did a photo session the studio yeah
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we're good yeah and um and with this
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photo session and I just said you know
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what we should end we should announce it
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on a billboard um on lakes Shore Grand
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Lake yeah the theater like right across
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the street by the freeway uhuh and then
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they they sort of found out when they
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was walking down the street they saw the
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picture what what what did what did the
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bill board say it's a picture of us big
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ass yeah we did a we had a photo session
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oh but nobody knew like management
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didn't know nobody knew we didn't tell
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anybody and I just said man where's
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where's that let's get I want to get
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that sign right there and I got the sign
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put it up and then he called me he was
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like hey um did you put a sign I'm like
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no I don't know what you're talking
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about and then Tim called me was like
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hey did you I'm like no I don't know
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what you're talking about then I started
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laughing I'm like yeah man I just wanted
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to announce it in Oakland where we
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started and well it got us back together
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like my dad my dad loved this group
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right our family do we have we have
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nieces and nephews great nieces and
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nephews now none of them actually know
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what we do they don't even know why they
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see like you know plaques in my mother's
7:52
house I don't have plaques in miles I
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don't you do that I don't do the plaques
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but the kids don't know like so I
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thought it would be cool for them to see
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like what we do and um the parents to
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see us back together right uncles
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aunties you know and and really for even
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for like just the generation and people
8:08
sampling our music and bands can't stay
8:11
together because of you know economics
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right it's no it's not enough money for
8:15
for them to stay together they get older
8:17
and they're like I can't do this it's no
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it's no money like a lot of white groups
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make a lot more money right so groups
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tend to break up and do different things
8:26
because the finance thing it just
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happens like that no no shade or nothing
8:30
but for us we really just love music
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yeah you know from day one I mean we
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just will play it for free anyway wow
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you know what I mean so we said you know
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what we should get back together and go
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thank everybody who put us on cuz the
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people put us on it ain't us that's what
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you doing so to thank everybody that put
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you on it's like a thank Youk Reunion
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yeah it's not like we it's like not even
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a re it's kind of like that but we're
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going to do another tour in 24 okay okay
8:57
another record okay you know doing
8:59
another record okay we still making
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music so we like let's get together and
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go see what we made what we made out of
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and you know being next to Wayne I tell
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everybody I was I was good on my own
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yeah I was dope on my own but I'm I'm
9:11
nothing I'm way better with them yeah
9:14
that's what's up like I knew I was good
9:15
but I knew how good I was with them yeah
9:17
I was like I don't want to make no more
9:19
records I'm like let me let me go hit
9:21
these dudes up did you know that too did
9:23
you know that he was better with you
9:25
than he was alone yeah he know that he
9:27
might not say but he know of that mic
9:29
I've always been in the moment I mean
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like I live yes I've always knew that
9:33
when we get together the energy is
9:35
different you know because it's just the
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three of us and that's why you know it's
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it's just like that whole vibe where uh
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I don't even have to look around when
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I'm on stage I can tell where he's
9:44
moving on base or whether he's vocal I
9:47
can tell it's it's a trip and this cat
9:49
right here being Tim being that genius
9:51
type of person a lot of people never
9:53
trip off the fact that he plays
9:55
keyboards yeah they always see him on
9:56
drums slamming but no man it's like the
9:59
we the glue the three of us Tim wrote it
10:01
never it never rains in southern
10:02
California you wrote it never R he
10:04
played every instrument say something
10:06
Tim nobody ever heard your voice hello
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there call say l say say last that's say
10:17
last Yeah Tim wrote it he just Tim you
10:19
wrote that huh yeah he just threw me a
10:20
CD I was in a room he just a cassette
10:23
tape yeah he came by knocked on my door
10:25
and La threw me threw this cassette tape
10:27
in the room and then he left and went to
10:29
like the Beverly Center or something and
10:31
I just put the table on
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like I'm like what so that was it that
10:37
was it that was it I love it Tim how you
10:39
doing man I'm good healthy um amen I
10:42
didn't know if we would see this again
10:44
always prayed on it though right and um
10:47
I love that you guys stick together and
10:49
come together this way what what did you
10:51
learn though when you guys were a part
10:53
what did you learn about each
10:54
other about each other yeah yeah you
10:58
learn said we learned about each other
11:00
that is the truth yeah I would say you
11:04
learn you learned I was really dope
11:05
about you you I was dope about you you
11:07
know what you fig out you figured I was
11:10
really dope Ray is really dope I didn't
11:13
know he can do
11:15
that is that Ray at the grammy what
11:19
Oscars what Oscars I knew I knew
11:22
everything about Dwayne nobody can tell
11:23
me nothing about the I can tell people
11:25
things about the Wayne that they don't
11:26
know right okay but um I mean he likes
11:29
to party he likes to write music he
11:32
can't and he rocks our family has a
11:34
constant Rock if if you stand up oh yeah
11:36
you can't they can't stop moving yeah
11:38
they always moving the uh Grand kid all
11:40
of them they all just be I'll be
11:41
checking on the D Wayne the same way got
11:44
to keep a guitar he's going to buy a
11:45
guitar in almost every city uhuh you
11:48
know I mean just bunch of guitars and
11:50
then he's going to uh buy a mobile home
11:53
and drive cross country that's that's
11:55
what you do that's what I learned I did
11:57
person man I like I you know I feel off
11:59
you
12:01
energy you know that know what I'm
12:03
saying all day um you know but I feel
12:06
like the stage is my home our home you
12:10
know I mean it's like sitting in the
12:11
living room with us that's the way we
12:13
came together sitting in the living room
12:15
watching soulbeat and MTV playing with
12:18
everything that came on you know what I
12:20
mean so and then the Tony Tony Tony
12:23
thing was basically the style of how we
12:24
used to clown and dress starting out in
12:26
btown and all that you know what I mean
12:28
you got
12:30
goty different it was different it was
12:32
sort of like you know what when we first
12:33
started coming to New York in ' 8788
12:36
know all the street Benders out there
12:38
everything yeah that's what btown was
12:40
like Berkeley was like Durant right on
12:42
well we learned about Tim is I went to
12:44
Tim's house it it was almost like The
12:46
Blues Brothers cuz I had to like sort of
12:49
recruit and talk to them and see where
12:50
everybody was at so I would go to
12:51
Oakland and call D Wayne around 11:00 at
12:54
night like where you at I'll be in Jack
12:55
L Square he like where you at we on the
12:57
street he come he like want to smoke one
12:59
he come down the street and then we just
13:00
hang out on the street and we just talk
13:02
for a while go his way that's what we
13:04
was doing for a while and I go by Tim's
13:06
house and um to see him and Tim used to
13:09
have all his his kids like they play
13:11
basketball they hoopers they they could
13:13
ball so they got usually like weights in
13:15
there and I walked up and it's all these
13:17
boxes I don't see the weights I'm like
13:19
Tim what are those boxes all those boxes
13:21
he like oh yeah all those are like
13:23
Christmas lights I'm like okay okay what
13:26
that's a lot of boxes he like he like
13:28
yeah man last year I won first place in
13:30
the neighborhood for the the best
13:32
house that's what this fool do I was
13:35
like what and then I was sitting there
13:37
like first place and he was excited
13:39
about like yeah I woke up and the first
13:41
place tag was on my house and this
13:42
neighborhood is like look like it could
13:44
go down with the lights right and I
13:45
didn't know that about him he W first
13:47
place and I was like then I I drove away
13:50
back to my house like man maybe I guess
13:53
maybe I ain't living like
13:57
this yeah have to respect that game to
14:01
respect that game you ain't never won
14:03
first place for your Christmas lights I
14:04
a never put no Christmas lights up he
14:07
had the Clark Griswald house like
14:10
everything
14:12
everything neighborhood right right uh
14:15
go there I I'll be remiss I'm want to
14:17
let them jump in um I I'm I want to ask
14:20
a few curiosity questions uh for you all
14:22
because I know you know when when you
14:24
from Oakland and the Bay Area and you
14:25
see your friends and people you watch
14:28
come up and they probably saw me and
14:30
keing text you know all it all of us you
14:33
know figuring our out rapping
14:35
dancing and then going to Kel you know
14:38
we we've all saw Digital Underground
14:41
come up this was all happening at the
14:43
same time y'all remember those times
14:45
used to be in jjam studio blind Joe
14:48
brother had the studio in Oakland
14:49
everybody came through the hammer was
14:51
with what the Holy Ghost boys yep and
14:53
and and shock G was working at a musical
14:56
limit used to steal guitars from there
15:00
why DNE
15:02
whyne blast don't do that don't do that
15:05
we go back like that so you know all of
15:07
us developing each other in this one
15:10
location I mean Mercedes was the one
15:12
that introduced us to pop you know moed
15:15
his brother is his yeah yeah introduce
15:17
you to Pac no he didn't introduce you to
15:19
Pac we met Pac first you met Pac first
15:21
yeah and he came in the studio we saw
15:23
him at J Jam studio he was upstairs he
15:26
was like I rhyme I said let me hear you
15:28
rhyme so we like want to jump on this
15:29
joint we got feels good he was like I
15:31
didn't even know he's pac's brother at
15:32
that time okay and then we found out he
15:34
was pac's brother yeah I didn't know
15:36
well so what was your relationship with
15:38
Pac at the we were all hanging out doing
15:40
yeah Pac was uh I was telling somebody
15:42
he was
15:43
um so much different when he got to
15:45
death row of course you know that right
15:47
so but when I was
15:49
CAC which you know everybody with death
15:51
row hanging out he will always make a
15:55
vline away from everybody and then walk
15:57
up to me and then like just start having
16:00
a real conversation you remember what
16:02
was on his mind at that time yeah um
16:06
well it's funny cuz he had like a fif in
16:08
his hand like the shape the shape of
16:10
your pocket that that the curve and he
16:12
just took it and put it in his P back
16:14
pocket and he was just looking at me
16:15
just say you all right you good I'm like
16:17
yeah I'm good you good I'm like you good
16:19
cuz I could see sh I could see everybody
16:23
and I was looking him like you good yeah
16:26
I was just looking him like you good
16:28
yeah that's that's the conversation we
16:29
would always have like you know him
16:32
coming from it's weird to see like his
16:34
life and and MOB deep you know their
16:38
life was pretty much the same in the art
16:40
world yeah you know that you heard that
16:41
speak on you know what I mean so they
16:44
was both really just artists that was
16:46
like you know you
16:49
know but they was both dancing tapping
16:51
acting okay in our school both of them
16:54
yeah you know what I mean so it's weird
16:56
to see now to know years later how they
16:58
they was funking but they both was
17:01
basically you know one was in ballet
17:03
yeah and they both was pretty much yeah
17:06
doing the same thing so it just see he
17:09
he was definitely a method actor okay uh
17:12
there was a lot of energy in the town
17:14
was definitely a method and if you was
17:16
from the town you felt that but when you
17:19
was outside of the town you didn't
17:20
really say nothing but I think we were
17:22
all method actors like Town cuz soon as
17:24
I mean every hood you know you walk out
17:26
your house you know when your parents
17:27
say bye and you walk out the house the
17:30
time you hit this the concrete you got
17:32
turn to a different person to get the
17:33
schooling back yeah right do you think
17:36
playing being musicians kept y'all out
17:38
of trouble oh yeah because you rehears
17:40
right I knew it did for me oh no wait
17:43
wait
17:44
wa D yeah Dwayne Dwayne was like Dwayne
17:48
was probably the that definitely kept me
17:50
out of trouble I mean I'll be walking
17:51
home from Tim's house two in the morning
17:53
and it'd be like three dudes in front of
17:56
what's the Eid the liquor store he
17:58
talking about about San Park Park s Park
18:02
one way one way out so I'm walking with
18:04
my base and I'm like dang it's three
18:06
dudes about five of them in front of the
18:08
liquor store said if I don't cross the
18:09
street they gonna think I'm scared of
18:10
them so I cross the street with my base
18:13
and walk to them and then walk past and
18:15
when I get they get real quiet and then
18:17
they look at me and go Ah that's fry
18:19
Wiggins what's up he be playing the T
18:21
shows yeah man what you doing out this
18:23
SL it always saved me it always saved
18:25
now but Dwayne is a different person
18:27
okay Dwayne is is like the probably the
18:29
roughest dude fighting shooting dice I
18:33
would be Dwayne I would be hanging with
18:35
Dwayne at dice games he will stop and be
18:38
like let's shoot dice with these dudes I
18:39
don't even know how to shoot dice to
18:40
this day okay Dwayne shooting dice
18:43
winning everybody money and I'm just
18:45
sitting there his little brother behind
18:46
him like how and how we gonna get out of
18:49
here like with the money and he's
18:51
singing to C me like you know they give
18:53
us a chance to win our money they don't
18:55
want to let you leave when you shoot
18:56
yeah and he's singing Back y Little
19:00
Joe he's so that's where I got that from
19:03
on snoop's record uh midnight love yeah
19:05
that's back door little Jo that's where
19:07
you got it from from him I was saying it
19:10
you know it's just a little saying you
19:11
know I want to bet the fade I got the
19:13
new you know there you go bro there you
19:15
go help him out help your big brother
19:17
out okay here we go see how Works he was
19:21
he was cool but he was probably the one
19:23
that was closer to to being not in
19:26
trouble but take more risk then I would
19:29
or Tim would Dwayne is Dwayne had a van
19:32
he would open the van up and go drive up
19:34
he don't remember this he looked at me
19:35
like what he would drive up he would
19:37
drive up in his green van and he would
19:40
he had he had a van in in in 10th Grade
19:42
uhhuh with a B in it at Castle what
19:48
cast in It whipped out van but we did
19:52
our thing to it so we kind of
19:53
personalized it and then it became a
19:55
thing me okay but man
19:58
Dwayne will open up the vanent and have
20:00
a dice game
20:03
in that sounds fire hold on we did take
20:06
it to the road I used to break everybody
20:08
take all their P Money Man Who who you
20:11
shoot dice with that ain't from the town
20:13
that you took their money what artist
20:15
that they from the town yeah oh what
20:17
artist was I in Vegas with that when was
20:19
doing princess Club I can't uh no one
20:22
super big but no just a lot of artists
20:26
like dude's named Swain though it was
20:27
really a SW was one dude for Royal Park
20:30
candy man I broke his ass back knocking
20:33
boots Cy I broke his
20:36
ass man cuz you know we was R&B and then
20:39
you know the rapper start I like we suck
20:41
a in like you want to play yeah let's
20:43
play say up suck they ass
20:49
up what clicking them like this to pause
20:52
you man get your
20:54
brother told I told you he was the the
20:57
one that's I mean but then guess what
20:59
that's why I learned how to count you
21:00
know these things and direct you know
21:02
count them numbers quick when it came to
21:04
contracts when it came to contracts oh
21:05
yeah we put it together everybody talks
21:08
about their first contract how was how
21:10
was y'all's I guess we couldn't count
21:12
too
21:13
well you know
21:16
what the best thing about it is we were
21:19
signed to our partners you know I mean
21:20
Foster Mel Roy and but we got we got
21:23
signed for literally six G's each so
21:26
people talk about the bad deals no such
21:28
thing as that you make it what it is you
21:30
know you are the money that's how that's
21:32
what I learned you know what I mean get
21:33
out there first of all we like
21:34
performing live and a lot of people you
21:36
know I mean even like we we go back on
21:38
our first tour our first tour was with
21:40
earthwind and fire they didn't even know
21:41
that we were a band cuz they looked at
21:43
our album cover and they heard the music
21:44
and then you know they thought we're rap
21:46
group so to speak you know what I mean
21:47
so we showed up we rocks yeah you know
21:51
they sent sound check we came up say
21:53
what do we set up I me they say um the
21:55
mics is right there I like no we got a
21:57
band drove our equipment from the town
21:59
and everything so marce white looked out
22:02
for us and gave us our own
22:04
board gave you your own board gave us
22:06
for the show okay he really didn't want
22:09
us touching this he just like get
22:11
them
22:13
now that but that was real game and
22:16
after that we was on the NWA tour we
22:18
went from earthwind fire to NWA NWA what
22:21
wow yeah we was on the tour in the movie
22:23
when you see it like in Detroit and
22:24
Houston when the cops came uhhuh we was
22:26
on that tour y was on that tour
22:28
if they would have said they didn't want
22:30
to per a s or if they Poli was on
22:34
thatour yeah was that so what was it
22:37
like because I do recall by that time
22:39
I'm at Cameo I feel no no I didn't get
22:41
to Cameo to 90 I believe but there was a
22:44
kind of a when Rap start becoming real
22:46
dominant yeah it was dominant yeah it
22:48
was hard for R&B we did a show together
22:51
on on Mission what was that what was
22:52
that college uh the school right there
22:55
San Francisco city yeah we did a show
22:58
together um ain't that crazy um what was
23:01
that like though cuz y'all didn't really
23:04
get stigmatized like y'all involed in I
23:07
didn't feel I didn't feel like y'all got
23:08
the same backlash as R&B was kind of
23:10
catching I think R&B at the time was
23:13
like because I I was really good friends
23:15
I was well not really I I was trying to
23:17
meet Tribe Called Quest okay I wanted
23:19
them to remix a song for us and when I
23:22
went to the studio they were all in the
23:23
room and I played them the record and
23:25
nobody said nothing m you know like what
23:29
was the song Do You Remember um all the
23:30
way on the Revival album it was already
23:33
done I just wanted a remix and cuz I
23:35
heard their music and I was like but
23:37
nobody was really saying nothing they
23:38
was playing it was really quiet but then
23:40
I figured it out it wasn't cool for
23:43
Hip-Hop cast the rhyme on R&B albums at
23:45
the time so I figured it out I'm in the
23:47
room it said battery yeah battery
23:49
Studios so I'm sitting here and I'm
23:51
looking like oh they they think I want
23:53
them to rap I don't I know they don't
23:56
they can't really do that it's violating
23:57
so I said I said hold stop I said yo yo
23:59
yo yo yo check it out I don't want y'all
24:01
to rap on it I just want y'all beats I
24:03
want the drums I want y'all drums and
24:05
they all like
24:08
whoa yeah and then we've been friends in
24:11
average since so this was for tip and
24:13
Alicia he who was this for specifically
24:15
well they always was in the room F was
24:17
in the room the whole tribe was in there
24:18
I mean the whole crew everybody was in
24:20
the room it was all in the room but when
24:22
they found out I didn't want them to
24:23
rhyme on it they were happy CH the
24:25
energy then they made beats and then we
24:27
became friends then then he ended up
24:30
doing you know rapping on my song
24:32
singing on him now he
24:34
sings He sings Yeah right a that
24:37
something it's the flip it's the flip
24:39
you can see man makes sense right yeah
24:42
so it was it wasn't cool to be R&B I
24:46
give I tell them R&B was a little
24:49
getting a little cheesy at this time
24:50
yeah so I understood why they were like
24:52
we got a good thing going with Hip-Hop
24:54
Hip-Hop was is very strong very strong
24:57
Beats a lot of great samples jazz funk
25:00
RB but we sort of represent what they
25:03
actually like you know so the things
25:06
that they sample is the things that we
25:08
were doing so y'all were playing that's
25:09
what drew me to you guys too like I I
25:13
well being here out here on the East
25:14
Coast I was a soul to soul fan like I
25:16
love soul to soul hang out the fridge in
25:19
um in uh uh London really yeah we to
25:21
hang out that club with them wow okay it
25:24
was idea I always wanted it's so funny
25:27
hearing you say you went to to try
25:29
because I've always wanted just as a fan
25:32
for you guys to all work together I
25:34
don't know if that ever was an idea or
25:36
something but I love solar soul and when
25:38
I first heard you guys it reminded me of
25:40
that energy like I I just loved it so it
25:42
was accepted in my house in my hood
25:44
everybody was rocking Tony Tony Tony cuz
25:46
it was just the underbeats of it it just
25:48
felt like hip-hop but but singing and
25:51
beats I don't know dancing we would
25:53
doing all of that to y'all's music you
25:55
know what blow me blew me away is when
25:56
we were in Trinidad and um when um Ray
25:59
hooked up with Ali yeah and U we were
26:02
over in Trinidad you know
26:04
doing and he ended up doing couldn't
26:06
keep it to myself with that so I didn't
26:08
know about the other part ready to go
26:09
all the way but that did cuz I think it
26:11
was his manager was Chris Lighty
26:15
Chris the
26:17
legendary we had a little Ray was cool
26:19
with everybody I didn't know everybody
26:20
I'm the bigger brother so I'm kind of
26:22
like I remember I think who was at call
26:24
say oh yeah this is Chris I calling
26:26
about us coming over there do I said
26:28
coming over here do what he said Do
26:30
Track like um who said that I
26:35
know I was like hey man um yeah who's
26:38
this and so magically it came together
26:40
when he said that be and I remember you
26:42
laying it out I I didn't I mean I knew
26:45
of him but he was really into how it all
26:48
worked and I just saw that magically
26:50
come together couldn't keep it to myself
26:52
that I'm a real New York so I spend time
26:56
with the jungle Brothers
26:58
Brothers yeah yeah I I I hit the streets
27:00
of New York I was when we got a record I
27:03
was waiting to get to New York to cuz I
27:05
had never seen a brownstone until 86 wow
27:07
I only saw it on TV so I went to every I
27:10
had to see a brownstone I'm like cuz a
27:12
stoop I wanted to see it because you
27:14
know we couldn't you know if we let a a
27:17
fire hydrant go we going to jail
27:18
probably arest
27:21
us could get away with that yeah but we
27:23
were like I think to answer your
27:25
question we were like everything that
27:28
they sample slide I mean um tribe was
27:30
sampling like sliding Family Stone you
27:33
know what I mean so when I heard what
27:35
they were sampling then I started
27:36
listening to everybody else I'm like wow
27:37
this is they in between Ice Cube and
27:40
tribe um like Ice Cube told me I said
27:43
why your how your drums get so dirty he
27:45
was like bro you got to go to the swap
27:47
meet and you got to get these breaks
27:49
break Beats from 45 Kings yeah and then
27:52
I just went to the swap meet and I just
27:53
bought every 45 King and I'm then I
27:56
started listening I'm like oh this just
27:58
the meters this is everything I already
27:59
know yeah Mark the 45 Mark the 45 King
28:02
Mar from the Flavor sh
28:08
J Legendary Legendary Mark and those are
28:12
the same cuz he put out those volumes of
28:15
break beats and that's what we used to
28:17
use was on the Wake Up Show dud used to
28:19
Freestyle man on two different
28:22
Co grey be what what joint was that was
28:25
it called greedy um uh greedy greedy
28:28
beats
28:29
[Music]
28:32
yeah oh the greedy be oh that was dope
28:34
yeah I don't know what that I hear that
28:36
is silks all the time I should be
28:37
sitting there like what the hell is that
28:40
he throwing it back he said silks silks
28:42
so silks is a old school club out of the
28:45
Bay Area out of Oakland that's just like
28:47
Infamous for like everybody went there
28:50
from in the morning yeah from the
28:51
athletes to the boys yeah it was it was
28:56
cross Rick James used to hang out there
28:59
you know just everybody but the Legends
29:01
were Tim what you say I'm sorry so
29:04
stupid uh that's where Hammer got his
29:06
start that is there you go yeah he did
29:09
that's where jackets wow I told you he
29:12
say less he just get right to
29:15
it Hammer used to come out right um and
29:19
he ringing was dope in the town before
29:22
he ever even got a deal and U so seeing
29:25
you know what when I see and all that I
29:28
think about Royal Park you know people
29:29
selling dollar joints and the whole bit
29:31
and then and we'd be rehearsing right
29:33
across the street this that and just to
29:35
see all of those artists and who they
29:37
are today it's like man we are really
29:39
not just living we are alive and really
29:42
living living this life every day you
29:46
know what I mean one thing we always
29:48
talk stuff about and you're going to
29:49
hear him talk about Dwayne you don't
29:50
like to rehears like I can't rehearse
29:52
this life I live this 100
29:56
all real for come man he rehear now 40
30:01
yeah I know this fool made me
30:03
wor man in the LA we started rehearsing
30:06
for the for the I've seen it online all
30:08
all over the Instagram yeah if he I was
30:10
like I told I told Tim I said you think
30:12
Tim you think Wayne gonna come rehearsal
30:14
I said if he don't come rehearsal he
30:17
going to look lost up there yeah no I
30:18
can't he so he came in a few times he
30:20
saw it I came to way V I was like oh
30:23
yeah he coming he was calling me what
30:24
time he start every day I like he has
30:26
some bad ass music
30:28
first of all us starting out was the
30:30
three of us just you know we like some
30:32
more black police stuff in the room with
30:34
just Hell guitar pedals and we never
30:36
really sang we just did hooks but we
30:38
always played behind badass vocalists
30:41
the Hawkins singers oh the hawk you know
30:44
cleers coming up and whatever else so um
30:47
this man has always been able to find
30:49
some of the most dopest musicians when
30:51
it came down to putting a band together
30:52
for us well when I came to rehearsal I
30:55
saw that young Sharky
30:57
I was like man who's that little kid
30:59
don't that boy is bad as so I was
31:01
just started seeing all these other bad
31:03
musicians I was like yeah I'm coming cuz
31:05
you know that's that's my energy I love
31:07
working with the youth or the Next
31:09
Generation because I know it's
31:10
reciprocal I mean I know I'm going to
31:12
learn something and stay on on the radar
31:14
let's talk about that listen to that
31:15
let's talk about the Next Generation
31:17
Tony Tony Tony is here we going to come
31:18
back we going to open up the phone lines
31:20
too 888 742
31:23
3345 is here Wayne is here the whole
31:26
crude is
31:27
family Tim yes sir did we bump into each
31:32
other at a
31:33
restaurant
31:35
sure what city am Marin City oh you
31:38
going way back huh okay just leave you
31:42
right
31:44
there right there I'm R
31:48
seloo yeah oh that's when we have the
31:51
record where we did theum I'm sure yeah
31:53
yeah yeah probably so yeah okay I'm
31:54
going to leave it right there it's a
31:55
reason I'm going to leave it there go
31:56
ahead uhoh Tim since we haven't heard
31:58
much read today and we just played that
31:59
song and never that is like for me
32:02
classic Tony Tony Tony right I think
32:04
that is if you think it's say a 2020
32:06
song that is one song that comes to mind
32:09
I'm just wondering what was like the
32:10
inspiration behind it I'm just so
32:12
curious about the inspiration behind a
32:14
lot of the songs that you guys wrote I
32:16
know you wrote it and then gave it to
32:17
Raphael but like what were you going
32:19
through what was in your mind what was
32:21
the daylight for you well Tim wrote the
32:23
music wrot who wrote the lyrics did you
32:25
I'm sorry he had to be went through
32:27
something to write that music because
32:29
that's what inspired me to write any
32:31
lyric to I could never had a lyric so
32:33
what were you going to like musically
32:35
it's a long time ago my brother oh my
32:38
God uh but but I will say uh I don't
32:43
know I was just in a Vibe I was just in
32:45
a Vibe and uh that's what just came out
32:48
I love that and what about you in terms
32:50
of the
32:51
lyrics it it it just felt like that we
32:53
were in recording and Mar with selo mhm
32:57
every day we driving past a PR a prison
33:00
s in prison and then you pass in all
33:03
this beautiful water all these nice
33:05
houses and every day how long were we in
33:07
souo about a year at least wow like a
33:11
year so I'm seeing this every day I
33:13
think it was just part of uh you know
33:16
the beautiful weather in the bay I mean
33:18
the Bay has the most beautiful weather
33:19
cuz it don't get too hot and it's always
33:22
beautiful you know what I mean so and I
33:24
just think it just came out and it just
33:27
popped out like that I I don't even know
33:28
what happened I guess it's it's a
33:30
perfect storm you know he passed it off
33:32
and Dwayne ran in the room and said well
33:35
it sounds good but it's probably one
33:37
thing missing you got to say now it may
33:40
be called on the East Coast on the other
33:41
side of town it never rains and that was
33:43
the glue to end the song and for the
33:46
record no East Coast we was not dissing
33:48
the East Coast at all never it just it
33:50
just it was a lyric that was that worked
33:53
because when we New York people want to
33:55
get out of New York and go go somewhere
33:58
doing the winters right they go to
33:59
Florida or something like that m in the
34:01
bay we don't have to go nowhere we right
34:03
there right can I jump in real quick
34:05
Tracy let Tracy jump real quick and then
34:07
and then sorry Tracy no no
34:10
no um what I always think is funny when
34:13
it comes to artists who really service
34:15
us timeless music is there so many
34:17
different entry points for fans of
34:20
different generations to get to know
34:22
Tony Tony you know like there's
34:24
adolescence from the late ' 80s that are
34:26
like nah this was the soundtrack of my
34:28
life there's Adolescence in the '90s
34:29
that are like this is the soundtrack of
34:31
my life and then you go into the 2000s
34:34
and I think one of the biggest records
34:37
of the early 2000s was diary with
34:39
Felicia keys and you when you're
34:41
mentioning um New York and how that's
34:43
not add diss to New York it made me
34:44
think of Alicia since she's from New
34:45
York and also sway just thinking about
34:47
Generations I would love to hear how
34:50
that song came together and also since
34:53
we spoke about a period uh Raphael where
34:55
you said R&B was a little bit corny what
34:58
did you think about R&B at the start of
35:01
a new
35:02
millennium you mean now or when we came
35:05
along yes when you came along uh when we
35:07
came I just felt like it was it was
35:09
getting it was being watered down
35:10
because of
35:11
MTV right in front of me I mean
35:13
everybody was trying to I MTV was a
35:15
great pop you know we we I watch it
35:18
every day yeah but I just felt like it
35:20
was hard for people to keep the grit
35:22
that they had you know like you know
35:24
earthwind and fire was singing like Keep
35:25
Your Head to the Sky didn't was like
35:27
magnetic it was it it was pushing people
35:30
in a different direction so it it kind
35:32
of got I guess the best R&B I felt that
35:35
was really R&B the last of it was solar
35:37
records Shamar Shamar Whispers and Jody
35:41
Watley solar yeah all of that all of
35:43
that then I think after that it was kind
35:44
of like it was kind of like you know it
35:46
was good but it wasn't it wasn't that
35:48
you know Al Green when you just like you
35:50
know this my record yeah you know this
35:52
my record I think for me that's when it
35:55
sort of like okay and so then Alicia
35:57
Keys did that give you hope for R&B well
36:00
Alicia had worked with Dwayne and Tim
36:03
okay that's that's a Str that just came
36:06
about um going back okay I met Alicia
36:09
when um Michael Malden from the the
36:12
label I was I was finishing a destiny
36:14
dad Jermaine Dad yeah I was finishing
36:17
Destiny Child project and they said hey
36:19
we send this young lady out a artist out
36:21
here you the producer so I was already
36:23
finishing them and then ke Co was living
36:25
in the studio the House of Music Kea
36:27
used to live in the studio like washed
36:29
her face there yeah yeah Kea got a
36:32
chance to see what it took for artist to
36:34
write a hit you know I mean she she she
36:36
watched Alicia come and work on one song
36:39
for two or three weeks on one part and
36:41
this that the other such so so living in
36:43
the house that's like that's mentoring
36:44
that's you saying like you J can't go in
36:46
there and just sing anything you got to
36:48
perfect it so that was a goodel yes
36:50
that's what it is right there exposure
36:52
is key I learned that but the basically
36:55
we hooked up back then okay things
36:56
happened I guess she got dropped from
36:57
that label whatever such but we did a
36:59
song called If I Was Your Woman First of
37:01
course and we did it at Live Oak Studio
37:04
I think Michael baly got mad at me
37:06
because I we took it somewhere I mean
37:07
she was the reason why she was like oh
37:09
let's take it somewhere different we
37:10
made that bad boy sound like a rock song
37:12
but it was still delivering the whole
37:14
he's like hey man I said do a remake
37:16
what's that I said it's a remake it's
37:18
different he's like man can you make it
37:19
sound like the song More I said okay so
37:22
that was the first time she got dropped
37:24
later on when she got signed by J
37:25
Records which you know took
37:28
it Davis little Larry Jackson he was
37:31
little larrys back
37:33
there so a that a trip Larry Jackson the
37:38
exactly Clive Davis label should have
37:39
been called Clive no you can't lose
37:42
records no you can't lose they just hit
37:44
after hit
37:45
huh that's good so that was a different
37:47
time or if you do lose you can't stay
37:49
but that was a different time right
37:50
right but you know then when
37:53
she so when she I get get a chance to
37:57
work on the first album she when she was
37:59
working on the second album she called
38:00
and said hey hey dway I want to get I
38:02
want to get that Tony Tony Tony Vibe on
38:03
this on on this next album can we do
38:05
something together I said cool I said
38:07
all right so Paul Tim like let's go out
38:10
there and do something and let's you
38:11
know let's bring some of the band
38:12
members out there and um and that's how
38:15
it happened Ray was doing some things on
38:17
on the solo tip of the time he didn't
38:18
get a chance to get in the studio but
38:20
everything we do like when you start
38:22
mentioning those people
38:24
Zinda whoever you
38:27
it's all through the lens of Tony H Tony
38:29
because even if he's not there he's
38:31
there he's there you feel that way too
38:33
with the people you produced solo too
38:35
right oh yeah because I mean when we
38:37
produce when we put records out I never
38:39
was like a producer so when I work with
38:41
artists I say I'm not really the
38:43
producer I'm just cuz I'm more
38:45
comfortable saying we're just a band
38:47
because that's how I started okay right
38:49
yeah just in a band I had a lot of cover
38:52
a lot of covering like with them around
38:54
me you don't know who's whack or who's
38:56
who's you know we get to figure it out
38:57
together but then when you buy yourself
38:59
I'm just never buy myself I always put
39:01
myself in a band situation if I'm
39:03
producing Perl right that's right ban
39:07
situation by the way I'm on the instant
39:09
vintage album just want to say that way
39:11
open up want to say that
39:14
again instantly vintage oh man I was so
39:17
happy Ray called me for that yo uh go
39:20
ahead DB so before you guys came in here
39:21
I was playing um house party off the
39:23
house party soundtrack um House Party 2
39:25
and you guys have had lot of songs
39:26
featured on soundtracks I'm a hugee
39:28
movie fan we had um Omar EP here the
39:29
other day I think just me and you was in
39:31
um no not Menace um the uh Jesus High
39:35
Learning High Learning uh I believe
39:38
Menace had a song in there but but house
39:39
party is my favorite so I just wanted to
39:41
know how did you get on the soundtrack
39:43
and featured in the film because you
39:44
perform it at the pajama jam so you get
39:46
to keep the pajamas yeah we got we got
39:49
those pajamas right now I'm a hoarder I
39:52
yeah we still got all that stuff but I
39:55
remember when we started is that track I
39:57
forgot uh was that was that the
39:59
um track that's ACH called uh what's the
40:03
name of the I don't know what you com I
40:05
don't know what you coming to it's like
40:06
a
40:06
testimonial type of song It's a call and
40:09
response song in the church I don't know
40:11
what you coming to don't what you come
40:14
to do I come to clap my hands my hands
40:16
they took 100% yeah so for the record we
40:19
consistently pay our ties took 100% of
40:22
the public who are they tiing it up
40:25
somebody I didn't know you could do that
40:27
with a church him yeah we gave it to him
40:29
like all right cool they S letter and
40:31
say hey yeah we was like hey man just
40:32
give it to the way we got into the movie
40:34
was George Jackson okay passed away rest
40:36
in peace he wanted us to be in he's a
40:37
director end up being the president of
40:39
mtown records for a minute and he asked
40:41
us to do it and we said cool we threw
40:44
the song together we were actually on
40:45
tour we came and shot shot the film and
40:47
jumped back on the tour bus and left
40:49
that was pretty much it that's another
40:50
cusion of our music when you think about
40:53
it you talking about how the um the
40:55
evolution of how it came around around
40:56
you being in the hip-hop and the thing
40:58
is we we Ed a lot of the 1200 drum
41:00
machine yeah the 1200 the 1200 put like
41:04
a worlder you know our guitar Vibe and
41:07
the way we play once you put that dirty
41:09
ass drum set drums it just it takes on
41:11
another character you know I mean and so
41:14
I just bought I just bought a new one
41:15
well it's it's just it's a replica of
41:17
the old one you got to hook up with EA
41:19
ski for real I already already on them
41:22
you already got it EA ski just designed
41:25
a whole new SP 1200 for rosom is it ROM
41:29
rosom oh yeah he just is coming out next
41:32
month you know who's a beast program
41:34
from Oakland by the way yes who was that
41:36
of course easy Mo easy Mo had battle in
41:39
the studio with him on that b easy Mo
41:42
yeah had a beat Battle oh man he he this
41:45
H Alicia introduced me to him uhhuh yeah
41:48
yeah yeah you battle with easy Mo
41:52
hey I'm a be with that 12200 don't hey
41:55
man samples myself my 1200 now Dwayne
41:58
was good but that's like me saying you
42:00
know I
42:01
mean a little bit I brought Mike Tyson
42:04
in the ring and I beat him up that's
42:06
what it's like right easy
42:08
Mo if I call Mo now he'll he'll oh man
42:12
he'll say that's true look
42:15
I he won't call it a battle cuz I didn't
42:18
say I
42:19
won but what it is is he didn't know
42:22
he's like d on the guitar and he that
42:25
1200 over there I'm like sound nice man
42:27
like yeah yeah this a 1200 I said I know
42:30
he say and we were doing the song If I
42:32
Was Your Woman say I had already did it
42:34
with uh Alicia with the 1200 in my sitar
42:37
and it a whole bit but when we re re
42:39
freaked it and I came to New York she
42:40
said I want easy uh easy Mo to do the
42:42
drum say who is old boy I mean you know
42:44
I didn't know who everything about him
42:46
but he was over there programming and
42:47
I'm a beast with that 1200 so he was
42:49
like you know something about this I
42:50
said yeah he said you want a mess say
42:52
yeah slid on over there boom bom b boom
42:55
say I know I got the dirty trips I'm
42:57
like you know I know how to pull pull a
42:59
cord out a little bit and it takes the
43:01
high frequency off where your kicks just
43:03
St like a 99 he's like how you do that
43:06
like oh see oh he said easy more said
43:09
how you do that but then he came back
43:13
show easy Mo asked you how you do that I
43:17
mean he
43:17
did I had to ask him how did you do he
43:21
was writing I was doing you know I was
43:23
scratching the surface but that was like
43:25
I watch that Dwayne was really good on
43:27
but I I just bought one I can't do
43:29
anything on it so Dwayne gave me some
43:30
sounds people sending me sounds and I
43:33
hit up easy Mo to actually get to for
43:35
him to tutor me to so when I get back
43:38
after tour he's gonna come easy Mo easy
43:41
Mo and sit with me so I can figure it
43:42
out so it was more like two like you
43:44
said to me it was a battle I'm like it's
43:46
crazy he don't know it's a battle though
43:48
right right okay okay I'll get whoop
43:50
your ass all right we got a few more
43:53
minutes and then right you got to get
43:55
with EA
43:56
trust me you want to learn how to rock
43:59
that thing get with easy Mo and get with
44:01
AI cuz right now I'm just it's just like
44:03
I'm just looking at it yeah he in the
44:05
room yeah we got L we got L RAB on the
44:07
line from Oakland L RAB what up uh
44:10
what's up no voters podcast is in the
44:12
building what up L RAB yo what's going
44:15
on man come on give it up for L RAB he
44:17
been on the show he came up matter of
44:19
fact when
44:20
um what who was here R was it
44:24
keani yeah no it was we even mention
44:27
Gabby
44:28
Wilson Gabby was in Pop Life her right
44:32
watch all of that came through Tony Tony
44:35
Tony the
44:37
L y'all was transitioning into the youth
44:40
and I was gonna say how many people that
44:42
they touched and what they lineage even
44:44
from people that was their peers to the
44:46
new people like even Jane Hancock Jane
44:49
Hancock name man oh man you got you got
44:53
like I said you got Pop Life which was
44:55
in DEA you got her Jane Hancock you got
44:59
uh who's who else is in there Kanani ke
45:02
Cole kaani Destiny Child and I I want to
45:05
clear this I want to ask this did y'all
45:07
have Destiny Child running and singing
45:10
at the same time in Oakland oh yeah like
45:13
training we moved him from um from um
45:16
Houston Texas put him in a pad over by
45:18
the lake and um that's why that's me
45:21
doing pop life you know basically my
45:23
sons Dylan and Jaden were you know
45:25
producers of music with that whole thing
45:27
and I was just the overall production
45:29
exposing it was sort of like a mentoring
45:31
thing but that producing Destiny sh uh
45:33
gave me the opportunity to learn how I
45:35
wanted to work with youth and that's why
45:37
I started the nonprofit and all that
45:38
stuff but producing them I had to hire
45:41
tutors they were under 18 so I learned
45:43
how to structure deals entirely
45:44
different I had done deals with Fox
45:46
mtown whoever such a such my first deal
45:49
was Kenya
45:51
grov and so by the time I got to them
45:55
you know it was different I was like oh
45:56
what's all this stuff I got you know
45:58
they're under 18 it's a different type
45:59
of deal much more structur hir tutors
46:03
and everything yes sir go ahead bra we
46:05
we always looking for a score for
46:07
Oakland huh oh oh my go yes beon was
46:10
running Lake
46:15
Mary I wasn't I wasn't around I wasn't
46:18
around make a run I wasn't around for
46:20
thees child think I was already at the
46:22
when I brought him to Sacramento at the
46:24
pad I think I was producing Karen White
46:25
and remember him he stayed upstairs and
46:28
we down in theage was waiting to meet
46:30
but I want to say we went by that really
46:32
fast yes his two kids yeah Dylan and
46:35
jayen is hard they killing the game
46:37
right now they was in Pop Life Wilding
46:39
people but they killing the game
46:41
producing what's the name of their new
46:42
group hello yellow hello yellow hello
46:45
yell hello yellow hello yellow Pop Life
46:47
wasn't meant to be a group it was like I
46:49
was putting together this thing where I
46:51
can mentor kids and making sure my sons
46:53
was going to be focused and stuff my
46:54
daughter Alon was involved and
46:56
everything it was a family thing but the
46:58
band just got hot got Big Y had y had an
47:02
Allstar Team bro y was like the US team
47:04
at the Olympics with LeBron and
47:07
everybody learn a lot rap thank you man
47:09
y'all make sure y'all follow no vter
47:11
podcast shout out to my cousin CLE uh
47:14
salute rap I'll be home wait one more
47:17
thing before I go one more thing before
47:18
I go I like to thank y'all for getting
47:20
back together man we all so happy but
47:23
there's one more thing y'all got to at
47:24
least do for Oakland Ray you got to stop
47:26
harboring that cougar you got to sell it
47:28
or or bring it outside man ray used to
47:31
have you don't want to know the story
47:33
that cougar is gone bro it's gone it's
47:37
gone yeah bring the cougar outside man
47:39
yeah I got I got I'll show you the next
47:41
one now okay all right RAB have a good
47:43
day uh Hey man hug CLE for me RAB love
47:46
you all right much love peace uh we got
47:49
a we got to we got to we got to
47:52
conclude unfortunately but uh once like
47:55
I reiterate what he said I Echo what he
47:57
said thank you for getting back together
47:59
man and for me personally it's like
48:01
watching people I went to school with
48:04
grow up with and we all reached our
48:06
dreams God is great thank you man
48:09
congratulations to you man what you've
48:11
done man we watching you we watch you I
48:12
watch you all the time bro everything
48:14
you're doing this is beautiful man to
48:16
watch you just come up your trajectory
48:17
is amazing bro thank you Ray I
48:19
appreciate that man means airation 100
48:22
CU we know you you know what I'm saying
48:23
I see you sometimes interview oh s about
48:26
to turn Oakland a little bit to turn it
48:29
down I got somebody was getting hella
48:30
loud with him always answer my calls no
48:33
matter how big he get thanks R and
48:36
always come back to the time man real
48:38
quick your thoughts on
48:40
Usher holding the R&B torch as long as
48:44
he has performing at the Super Bowl year
48:47
ago everybody was screaming The
48:48
Narrative R&B is dead everybody I just
48:52
all I say man my name's Usher Raymond I
48:55
wrote a song with him and the first
48:57
thing I said in the song I said his name
48:58
Usher Raymond Snoop one of snoop's
49:01
million records yeah um but yeah Usher
49:04
we love it Usher go do it kill him bro
49:07
we love you you um he's amazing dude
49:10
just from on the one onone yeah dude is
49:12
like he 100 we love him and He Is We I'm
49:16
happy that he's uh he he's in front of
49:19
as many people eyeballs as he can
49:22
possibly be in front of that's what we
49:23
want there you go representing
49:24
representing Tony Tony Tony man what
49:27
what this new project what what kind of
49:30
messaging are y'all touching on humble
49:32
stuff man really humble just show how
49:34
humble we are you know not to bite off
49:37
the the the great king himself Kendrick
49:40
yeah but I did write a song called humbo
49:44
like a song called hum not humbo County
49:45
in it's uh not humbo County even though
49:47
Dwayne is the biggest herb smoker in
49:50
America today damn that's a big title no
49:53
no no no no but I'm just saying it's
49:54
it's a very
49:56
uh it's a humbling record it's it's just
49:59
for us it's for everybody and it and it
50:00
feels good yeah good feeling record yeah
50:02
yeah it's going to be it's going to be
50:03
great it's not one of them records you
50:05
come back and your record is trash ain't
50:08
that it ain't that of course not
50:09
couldn't be Tony Tony Tony give him a
50:11
big round of applause man thank you for
50:13
coming through yes um you got just me
50:17
and you like what do you timeing is
50:20
everything just me and you
50:21
tour I got I'm hitting a couple of
50:24
dates oh man Radio City is going to be
50:27
crazy okay I just need all access so I
50:29
can just walk around I ain't going to be
50:30
in your way I just want to be just going
50:33
point you yourself got it walk on in all
50:36
right give it up for Dwayne give it up
50:38
for Tim give it up for Raphael give it
50:40
up ladies and gentlemen Tony Tony Tony
50:42
we'll be back tomorrow um thank you for
50:44
hanging in there to all the citizens
50:46
this was great um stay on the right side
50:48
of positivity let's end with a Tony Tony
50:50
Tony song New York h and on that note
50:54
citizen
50:56
we have
50:57
nothing
51:02
left
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