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I was in Yellow Springs Ohio over the
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holidays and folks was blasting y'all's
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music that's Darnell and that's Donald
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and his friend a white female was
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spitting every bar that came out of fat
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mouth yeah wow and I wanted to pull out
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my phone and going what in the hip hop
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has happened to the world yeah
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they happy for y'all yeah you understand
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what I mean like it's that happiness for
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y'all everybody was feeling that energy
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and what made me even happier is that
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folks was walking up like who is this
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who is this who is this and everybody
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was going to their phones and getting
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that energy and catching that energy and
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that's what it's all about so be happy
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for y'all man these tears and this love
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and these words and these hugs yeah it's
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just coming from that real Soul place
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what she said come on come on
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come on yeah you gotta really look at
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y'all like family though yeah I brought
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I brought I don't be bringing all my
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kids nowhere yeah I brought all my kids
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because I really want them to be able to
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like yeah experience this it's different
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yeah everybody everybody else be doing
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interviews it's different no this is
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different yeah yeah yo honestly
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um and I always prep because I spent a
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lot of time prepping and I I usually
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don't get to half the stuff I prep for
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but I like to be prepared I couldn't
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yeah I couldn't prep for y'all wow
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and seeing you people been asking me
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about Ghana yeah yeah and I haven't been
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able to process it oh I promise you yeah
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I haven't been able to put it to words
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yeah
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we had a moment in Ghana first of all
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first of all
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we got our family up in here today say
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so
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this is different I can't even I can't
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even bring myself to words cause we
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watched it from get twisted Sundays I
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thought that's how I met this yeah yep
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watching fat braid Toby's hair
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straight up clean Yeah clean nice nice
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while he just wrapped and freestyled and
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and I thought it was on so many layers
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it was giving us culture it was giving
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us information and then vibration that
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have all that's always come from you two
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as a tandem has been nurturing yeah it's
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been healing yeah and me coming from
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this culture being the person I am and
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having done the things I've done I've
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recognize energy yeah I recognize I know
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what it means I know what it means uh
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when we're operating at our highest
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Forum on our highest frequency and it's
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important for us to attach ourselves to
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these kind of messaging this kind of
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Imaging this kind of
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um a vibration that comes from you guys
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is family yeah and then your bond the
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way fat holds you down man I went
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looking for them in Ghana because the
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people I was with was like we don't want
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to meet anybody but Toby and fat yeah
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and they said we know you know them yeah
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Jessica came who'd been to 195 countries
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it's like I love fat yeah I loved
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everybody everybody sister
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and katrillion sisters yeah we got you I
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call you the woman King yeah yeah
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because they come and let me tell you
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when we bumped into you yeah come on I
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had no idea where y'all were yeah oh you
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didn't see me back there they were in
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the area where all the the artists who
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performed that Chance the Rapper you you
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leader come on you Legend you you
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Visionary put together that that black
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bridge builder there you go Black Star
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Line Festival 52 000 made sure all of us
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was well taken care of us none of us
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took a fee to do it we all came on
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spirit and heart alone only one
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family things
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I thought I was the only one that really
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blew I was like man yeah you know I
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really believe man I'm gonna just go
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ahead I'm bringing everybody too man
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don't even worry about I really believe
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in what you're doing and to know now
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that everybody took that same approach
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it's even more Immaculate can you
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imagine it's the bro it's a you can't
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even imagine yeah so I'm walking around
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again the grounds and they treat me and
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Ghana like I was in Oakland
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everywhere I went security guards kids
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running up to me you sway are you sway
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yeah you know and uh are you hilarious
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for that
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um
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they call me gagne
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why not why not
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and walking through that area it was
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miraculously
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Toby happened to be walking out of his
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you remember that Toby was walking out
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of the room at the same time I didn't
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even know there was no room yeah yeah no
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me neither and the connection happened
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to me
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um
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this connection has always been Divine
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100 we always find each other yeah
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you found me yeah yeah we had we I had
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been a fan yeah you found me but this is
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what I love about it you didn't wait
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till everybody else had found me and and
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was saying stuff you made your own
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decision uh uh to not only find but to
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reach out show love and invite me yeah
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when I when I was poor yeah yeah yeah it
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hit different when you poor yeah yeah
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yeah yeah
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but I love the way fat yeah
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holds you yeah down and you hold her
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down yeah
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but fat it was something about the way
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he was braiding that man's head
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I'm sitting behind him I was like yo
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this dude got a fortress yeah that's
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gonna carry him no matter what he
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decides to do when I watch the
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docu-series yeah and I hear you speak
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about him and the way you speak about
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him yeah you know I'm like wow this this
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is
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unadulterated unfiltered unconditional
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love the way you protect her yeah and
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your family and you put her up front
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yeah you gotta see when fact came out on
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stage in Ghana in front of 52 000 people
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holding her baby's hands they went well
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come on man wow wow ah give him a round
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of applause
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[Applause]
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oh this is a lot come on man and I just
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I'm a stop in this I'm not gonna ever
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stop you know the kids now they see me
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what's your name yeah come on they can
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ask me all the time okay I was like I'm
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your uncle I'm Uncle sway 100
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your uncle and I would ride and protect
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you like you my own you are my children
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yeah
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um oh man I don't know where to go from
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here Toby but other than I'm proud of
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you yes yeah thank you I'm proud of you
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fat yes Beyond rap yeah um what y'all
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symbolize to our community yes with this
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Unity this Union you have yeah it's a
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prime and fine example of what love what
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black love can do come on at its highest
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yeah it's on you make me want to get
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back into a relationship come on come on
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cause people we want the same things 100
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for us yeah that we see you guys have
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it's hard to deserve it yeah thank you
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brother it's hard to navigate in this
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game yeah 100 without it yeah when we've
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been fooled to think that we should do
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it without it but that love to me out of
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all the incredible songs and the
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performances that you guys do because
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they show the whole nine yeah that love
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that y'all have yeah is who we are at
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our finest so thank you thank you thank
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you thank you for who you are
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um I feel overwhelmed yeah man I'm
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getting this off cause I don't know when
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it's gonna happen again
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it's beautiful because when I see we
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bump into each other yeah in different
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places in the world 100
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crazy Global type of love crazy wow
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I think that's what it was when I seen
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you in the lobby that's what it really
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was I'm like yeah that's my that that's
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not that's not just my dog that's my dog
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come on right we ain't got enough
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I'm like bro this I'm not I'm not in New
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York L.A or Oakland or we ain't in the
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states right we somewhere completely
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different yeah on them and we both on
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the same Mission yeah all the same man
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yeah
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when they saw a thing that hit different
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yeah let me tell you that's why I'm so
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happy I just walked in the lobby yeah I
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flew out there by myself
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for a chance yeah come by myself right
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and I'm just hobnobbing I'm you know me
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I'm I know folks know who I am they
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giving me all kind of Praise but I'm I'm
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here I'm right here with y'all yeah he
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take the low he take the low road you
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people they don't like it he loved
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acting like he just familiar I'm like
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like all comments I'll be like sway get
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him I'm telling my hey protect him
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you're the first
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person that really approached me I was
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at the desk yeah and you grabbed my
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shoulder and we saw each other and it
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just was like okay I'm wearing supposed
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to be amen so I want to say thank you to
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you too man you you took opportunity
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and and made it multiply and multiply
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and the way they travel with the whole
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Squad y'all yeah the background dancers
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the background singers the band The Road
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manager the babies the caretakers of the
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babies I mean they probably got some
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legal dudes here security you know they
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travel with the whole tribe man and I
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just want to say man congratulations to
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you hey man give them a round of
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applause I'm gonna love somebody I even
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got an interview for you brother
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you know yeah we home you home it's a
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celebration yeah I'm not gonna lie and
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then who you doing tomorrow night yeah
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that's our brother Friday night Jimmy
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Fallon that's crazy
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that's crazy Independent Artists
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I saw the conversation with you and
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Steve Stout yeah
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um
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a United Masters yeah a long time ago
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come on right yep and I feel like you
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came in there and gave them some
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formulas some recipes yeah
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they had a
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it's a phenomenal uh concept and I'm
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just a very practical person and to me
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out of everything that I heard that made
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the most sense okay yeah the way that
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the way they was doing it they was like
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at first it was like a a 95.5
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distribution thing then it was like no
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no you just paid a little a little
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monthly thing and you keep all your
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distribution and I'm like oh okay I
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ain't never heard that yeah I started
11:42
hitting everybody hey Paul Wall you
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heard about this hey chameleon yeah
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y'all I don't know if y'all heard about
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this yeah it's going crazy and they do
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the same they offer the same things that
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everybody else offered but you just get
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to own your stuff like that everything
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yeah how has that benefited you yeah I
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just want yeah I don't know yeah I'm not
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yeah I don't live in poverty anymore
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we're not impoverished did you make a
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song about making your first million or
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something like that how'd that lyric go
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yeah well I I got a couple of them now
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yeah
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we're not broke no more yeah I was broke
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yeah but now we're not broke no more
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yeah well it's it's not easy
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um going from broke to having a healthy
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cash flow because you can't manage money
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the same way you did when you were broke
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no when you have money right what are
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some of the things y'all learned about
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managing money oh come on fat well
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because you're the mother you're the
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leader you're the you know you're
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running the household yeah the woman
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came what did you know
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well first we we just like we just went
12:43
through a whole financial situation and
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we gotta we know that it's so important
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for us to get financial literacy
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literacy
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um so that we can better manage our
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money um in the future but listen that
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tax situation ah come on yeah that's
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what they don't teach you about it yeah
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they don't they don't they don't tell
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you to prepare for it it just hits you
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so now we know and we're like learning
13:06
more about finances and everything I
13:08
should have held off on that Ben broke
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song until after after taxes oh you will
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know it was full manifestation yeah they
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heard it because when you don't have
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money you look forward to tax season
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because you're getting money you know
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what I mean like all the taxes doesn't
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come I'm about to get this car I'm about
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to you know what I'm saying you making
13:23
all your plans and stuff because tax
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season but on the other side of stuff uh
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you gotta you gotta you gotta prepare
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cause it's gonna hit you it's coming
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yeah yeah what about like have you guys
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discovered what your non-negotiable
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splurges are because that's the other
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side of it oh yeah there's a lot of
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enjoyment 100
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and luckily we don't be buying a whole
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lot of stuff but we do make sure we
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comfortable wherever we go whenever we
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go to a a place uh ever we stay in a
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comfortable uh situation and then we
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always gonna eat phenomenal
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we gonna eat like hella was cooking
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every single time oh I'm not playing we
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gonna eat good that's right we
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understand life ain't promised yeah
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we're gonna eat good the food's gonna be
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good wow you gotta also think about um
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because y'all travel the world now and
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then you not only got to pay different
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taxes in different states that you make
14:19
money in countries you got to pay
14:21
different taxes in different countries
14:26
when they start asking you about the
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country codes and stuff you're like fam
14:37
like I learned that lesson at 19. I
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haven't I haven't received a tax return
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since I was 19. and I was crushed
14:46
because I didn't understand because like
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you I'm I'm ready to buy my clothes
14:50
everybody about to go to Miami and you
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just learn real fast and I'm going back
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with a time with like five thousand
14:58
dollars was like a lot a lot of money
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rich and then you like nah you didn't
15:06
pay taxes on that money you you just had
15:08
this little company you got a name they
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sent you five thousand well now you owe
15:13
2800 of that run that hand that back run
15:16
that on and you just like what happened
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and nobody tells you nobody tells you
15:22
nobody tells you it's because of the
15:24
circle that you're in if everybody is
15:25
around you expecting that check on on uh
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tax season then who's gonna tell you on
15:30
the other side it's not like that that's
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right you know what I mean so you just
15:33
have to surround yourself with other
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people that are more like informed yeah
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yeah you know what that also got me
15:38
worrying then if that makes you more of
15:40
a workaholic because you're like I need
15:42
more and more and more because I know
15:43
the taxes I know the payrolls you know
15:46
what I'm saying like is it now more
15:49
challenging for you guys to take a break
15:51
considering everyone that gets fed off
15:53
of you and the taxes that you have to
15:56
pay y'all employ a lot of people yes a
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tribe yeah yes but the thing about it is
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there's there's ways to not work your
16:04
overwork yourself and there's different
16:06
places you can put your money in okay in
16:08
order to get you know what I'm saying
16:10
that's why I'm saying that financial
16:11
literacy the stuff that we don't know
16:14
wow but they know speak on it you
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understand what I'm saying and so like
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that's the type of stuff that you have
16:19
to learn because there's a bunch of ways
16:21
ways to move your money around to make
16:23
it benefit you can you give an example
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I would uh
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when somebody asked you if you got an S
16:35
corp you and you don't you ain't really
16:37
grown yet like I'm just trying to tell
16:39
you you think because you have a loan
16:40
out company come on you good and I'm I'm
16:43
trying to tell y'all they looking at 30
16:45
and 40 percent of your taxes and don't
16:48
have a agency don't have management
16:50
don't you you take a check ten thousand
16:54
dollars become thirty eight hundred
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quick yeah and you out here buying and
16:58
spending like you got 10 racks and you
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don't want that everybody is a debit or
17:03
accredited in my world real talk like
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what you doing
17:08
we need this kind of shout out to earn
17:11
your leisure oh yeah yeah yeah the work
17:15
they're doing is what you talking about
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100 in the language that you can
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understand in the language that you're
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gonna understand to me that's one of the
17:22
most important podcasts that's out
17:24
because 100 let them look at the uh the
17:27
wealth disparity in this country between
17:28
us and others yeah look at the amount of
17:31
money we spend yeah
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body spending more than us but we are
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the poorest yes in the country we're the
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most famous we're the most sly oh run
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the culture run the culture by lead
17:42
consumers influence it no the whole nine
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original influence yeah but with the
17:47
Brokenness that's why on your leisure is
17:49
so important hey man Toby and fat in the
17:51
family are here
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I'd be like yeah I don't know nothing
18:00
about it gave Toby lunch money
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um so many but last time we were here we
18:09
were talking about the different folks
18:11
that have taken to your music famous
18:13
people wow and brothers Erykah Badu Dave
18:16
Chappelle who yeah damn it I party so
18:19
hard with Dave Chappelle and Ghana I
18:21
lost my voice
18:23
it was great you and you and Ghana
18:25
though yeah what I love to see about
18:27
them videos was
18:29
man you saw us all together
18:33
having fun yeah celebrating each other
18:36
just celebrating the the fact that we
18:38
all in each other's space and they never
18:40
thought it was going to be possible they
18:41
didn't think it was going to be possible
18:42
they didn't think we would find our way
18:45
back here they really didn't yeah we
18:47
came home yeah y'all go to the castle
18:49
yes the so-called Castle the dungeons
18:51
process enslaved people 100 yeah yeah we
18:55
went there and Rabbi uh who did uh
18:58
Dave's uh tour did it for us too okay
19:00
yeah the same Rabbi yeah 100 that's his
19:03
name Rabbi yes yes so he gave you that
19:06
tour yeah who in the world has surprised
19:09
you that that they knew who you are uh
19:13
uh when I first met Usher
19:16
yeah they ain't gonna lie to you I
19:18
walked up to us not not I walked up to
19:20
usher and it's crazy now because it was
19:23
during All-Star in Cleveland uh at Dave
19:26
show Dave did just a random show uh and
19:30
Usher walked up to me with with all
19:32
familiarity and I'm like and we ain't
19:35
never met he's like hey man bro I love
19:37
what hey love what you doing bro hey
19:38
take my information about I was like bro
19:41
we're not gonna act like you're not that
19:44
We're Not Gonna Act Like confessions
19:46
ain't The Greatest R B album to me
19:48
personally we ain't gonna we ain't gonna
19:50
do that I ain't never met you though
19:51
yeah hug me yeah
19:57
he's just gonna take your information
19:58
now act like this is a casual
20:00
conversation what do you say he's like
20:03
ah nah man now yeah we should really I
20:04
said oh we should really I said wow look
20:09
I played it cool and then when he left I
20:11
said fast
20:13
I should have just said we should
20:27
and then of course for real no we're
20:30
gonna wait for me it was Rihanna
20:40
queen of Queens
20:42
exactly we was at the Black Panther
20:44
Premiere and yes
21:01
in the actual movie
21:04
yeah come on yeah
21:08
you don't get to say that all the time
21:10
sorry about that you don't get
21:14
those calls man
21:15
music was in the actual movie yeah and
21:18
so as an independent yeah we don't yeah
21:20
independent independently yeah nobody
21:22
yeah they hit they called us
21:24
keep going fast my bad when they called
21:27
you what did you think like who called
21:29
y'all right
21:30
uh
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um uh a whole bunch he did a whole bunch
21:41
of stuff he did the last black uh
21:42
Panther uh soundtrack he did uh uh uh
21:45
Childish Gambino stuff all the uh yeah
21:48
he he real he real big and then uh
21:51
what's my other man yeah and then of
21:52
course Ryan you mean Ryan coogler from
21:54
Oakland yeah
22:14
watch this
22:16
I ain't gonna say since he started
22:17
putting his projects out but since I
22:19
heard his very since I heard a a
22:21
interview that he did yeah and I heard
22:23
him talk
22:25
once I heard him talk real one I
22:29
literally hit fat like fat I promise you
22:31
never know we can do anything yeah yes
22:33
and we don't gotta compromise we could
22:35
be a 100 ourselves and be at the highest
22:38
level
22:39
oh bro when I when I watched him and I
22:42
heard them I said fat
23:08
and I love the fact that he really
23:11
do just do what he do and that's it he
23:14
don't be trying to do nothing extra you
23:16
don't try to be in the mix he be with us
23:17
with his uh with his wife his family and
23:19
he just be out the way yeah it's
23:21
masterful yeah that's why when I when I
23:24
sing uh it was so good to see him at the
23:26
premiere and just be able to show love
23:27
in person and he felt the same way about
23:29
us that we feel about him it was just
23:30
great oh man life is immaculate I'm not
23:34
in it it's the best come on yeah come on
23:38
[Applause]
23:41
yeah yeah we experiencing it it's here
23:44
and here hey y'all in it you want to
23:46
tell that story about Rihanna though
23:47
that was really yeah
23:49
okay so we're in there we're in the
23:52
actual theater watching uh we're waiting
23:54
for the the movie to actually start and
23:56
we're sitting in a section and it's a
23:58
crowd of people that come in I'm like
23:59
hey Toby that's Rihanna and he's like oh
24:02
for real and so I've been sitting next
24:03
to um a lady that's the mom of one of
24:06
the artists that's actually that the
24:07
music is in the movie of and she we were
24:10
just sitting there talking about how
24:12
cold it was the whole time and I said I
24:14
said now listen what if Brianna come and
24:17
sit behind me and back uh block the air
24:18
because she because she's so tall yeah
24:21
yeah
24:22
oh yeah yeah yeah
24:24
she was like she was like which do the
24:28
acting Toby because she was uh she said
24:30
that is just wishful thinking
24:35
that's nice exactly so we left it off
24:37
and then a few minutes later she came
24:39
and said like directly behind me wow
24:51
y'all went on a double date with Rocky
24:53
and Rihanna
25:02
boy was right next to us
25:11
the Nigerian giant yeah what a life yeah
25:14
yeah
25:15
double dating ASAP yeah
25:18
she sat down and I just I played it cool
25:21
I wasn't you know about to be like you
25:23
know what I'm saying so it played it
25:25
cool and then I waited to like right
25:26
before the movie was about to start and
25:28
I just turned around and waved at her
25:29
yeah she played cool about 25 30.
25:35
she ain't even like look back or nothing
25:38
like that in my limited experience it's
25:41
kind of like overwhelming when you come
25:42
from like the cameras and everything you
25:44
just want to like sit and chill together
25:47
so I just turned around and waved at her
25:50
how you doing how you doing
26:05
and she said um she said that she
26:08
watched the video she said that the
26:10
color the Aesthetics and everything
26:11
I love your videos you know what you say
26:14
I love y'all videos what you say I said
26:16
you watch yourself
26:26
no but it was dope she was she was super
26:28
cool
26:31
no then invited us to the um
26:39
I was like what
26:41
Heather Tracy this is my last day I'm
26:44
about to join the tribe I'm about to be
26:46
with the Stars
26:48
I'm carrying fast
26:53
[Music]
27:13
I do want to say something about that
27:15
impressed me about Rihanna come on we
27:18
watched the whole movie
27:19
she's being you know what I'm saying and
27:21
so we watched the whole movie and her
27:24
song she waited to the end of the movie
27:26
to the credits and everything to watch
27:27
her her song come on and she was so
27:30
alive about it she said that's my song
27:32
she was singing singing the song and you
27:34
know like when you up there like that
27:36
you don't have to do that you don't like
27:38
most of them don't stay for the whole
27:39
movie you know they leave you know what
27:41
I'm saying all that stuff but she was
27:42
just like so like proud that she was in
27:44
100 black panther it was no I like how
27:47
fast it like we just really be at the
27:48
premieres like yeah
27:51
they don't be staying like that you know
27:54
when you go to premieres you know 100
27:55
100
27:58
I do because I think for so long and
28:02
it's going back to what y'all was saying
28:03
earlier like do y'all remember in time
28:07
especially in hip-hop when you hit like
28:09
people hit their kids
28:11
[Music]
28:14
you hit all of that and just to see it
28:17
now so up front to see y'all this is my
28:21
wife this is my husband these are our
28:23
kids this is our family I don't think
28:25
people realize how much strength is in
28:27
that yeah like it's like yo I got a clap
28:30
just because I see that you know what I
28:32
mean it's the best part of me
28:35
and it's like even when you mentioned we
28:38
talk about being happy for people like
28:40
Rihanna felt that happy you know what I
28:42
mean like I'm not gonna sit here and act
28:44
like my move my song ain't in this movie
28:47
yeah I love it this is Black Panther
28:50
Angela Bassett yeah
28:56
I'm I'm glad we we showing our emotions
29:00
like this yeah because there was a time
29:02
with all of this everybody was hit it
29:03
everybody was hard yeah man you couldn't
29:07
do that I'm so glad that y'all celebrate
29:10
the way y'all do like y'all videos make
29:12
me laugh and smile like it's okay to be
29:15
happy yo I just caught this nomination
29:21
we going up like we supposed to
29:23
celebrate it's just good to see you
29:27
um congratulations yeah it definitely is
29:30
in store come on Best New Artist come on
29:33
come on man first ever Grammy nomination
29:36
first ever Grammy nomination Best New
29:39
Artist citizens man y'all been with them
29:43
since they came up here
29:45
and now look at them
29:52
take your time but that's happy kids
29:56
and it's also here's the flip
29:59
like we've done this a long time yeah
30:02
every damn it we done this so much about
30:05
to get in a slave voice
30:10
for a long time
30:15
I've been on this radio
30:22
trying to find these orders
30:27
I want our people to feel the glory of
30:30
what this culture can bring yes it's
30:32
possible culture ain't just rap yeah
30:34
some that got us food the business came
30:37
in and told us the culture is about
30:39
streaming and yeah and Views and
30:41
popularity and Crews and necklaces and
30:44
who's harder than the next they got us
30:46
threatening each other's lives on apps
30:49
that ain't the culture y'all yeah 100
30:52
that ain't what the culture is this is
30:55
what it is when we take something that's
30:56
innate to us yeah that could only be
30:59
created by us and we utilize that to
31:02
elevate Us in community so what my
31:05
business to the highest level
31:07
my job my obligation come on my purpose
31:11
yeah was to reach out to y'all come on
31:14
as is theirs yes and other people who
31:17
are in these so-called gatekeeper seats
31:20
or whatever you call we just being
31:21
obedient yeah amen and when you see it
31:24
come to fruition ah come on then you
31:26
understand that this is not tangible
31:29
yeah it's a divine presence yes it's
31:31
frequencies yeah we all connected 100
31:33
it's vibrations so when I see your
31:36
success it's just more confirmation 100
31:39
100 that's what the tears are for that's
31:43
why I'm not asking you about I do want
31:44
to ask you about how you structure songs
31:46
though because you know there's certain
31:48
things that you guys do and watching
31:50
y'all
31:51
um uh rehearse and gonna come on and and
31:55
I was some man a security guard ran up
31:57
to him I took a picture of y'all on
31:58
stage and it was rehearsing I wasn't
32:00
video because of the security guard a
32:02
garnellian security guard came up to me
32:04
and I could tell he hated to say it to
32:06
me
32:07
I'm sway you you can't film the
32:10
rehearsal
32:11
oh yeah right he didn't know who he was
32:13
yeah it was cool but I said man I'm
32:15
taking a picture yeah I'm not even
32:17
posting it I just need to look at this
32:19
it's symbolic right and so that's why
32:23
y'all are so important thank you you did
32:26
it your own way you carved your own
32:28
Niche you stayed independent they had to
32:31
come to you on your terms yeah and I
32:35
know you haven't bent at all but you
32:37
staying creative how are you staying in
32:40
tune with the creative part when I look
32:42
at the the stage show when I look at the
32:45
the Garb when I look at the color
32:47
schemes how do you not get disconnected
32:49
a lot of times when you experience that
32:52
kind of success yeah you want to roll it
32:53
all the time you're going interviews
32:55
you're doing all this stuff the creative
32:57
sometimes can suffer because I don't do
32:59
I don't do interviews all the time I
33:02
don't be on the road all the time okay
33:03
like even when I am on the road like I
33:06
said this last tour up that I did to
33:08
where I do one show a week
33:11
yeah that that ain't uh the best way to
33:14
do it for fine fine financially about
33:16
I'd be like yeah that's the best way for
33:18
me to do it though and I'm not desperate
33:20
yeah and I knew exactly who I was before
33:23
I started doing all this by the grace of
33:25
God so now like I don't compromise
33:28
nothing come on and they didn't really
33:31
messed up and had the audacity
33:42
and I didn't compromise nothing I did it
33:46
exact way wow that I felt like I should
33:49
do it
33:51
and I'm like yeah
33:53
y'all I y'all couldn't really tell me
33:56
nothing when I was in poverty and now
34:00
that I've really it's really coming to
34:02
fruition like this I got my wife I got
34:06
all my I did it with my wife I did it
34:08
with all my kids like as they was coming
34:10
we were still out here doing it amen and
34:14
I ain't never compromised nothing and
34:15
and we at where we at now yeah 100 yeah
34:20
wow for me like the chills are how much
34:25
you guys reflect back to us you reflect
34:28
back to us potential yes you know
34:30
possibility come on self-designed lives
34:34
yes you know and I'm just I'm so
34:36
grateful for that because I feel so full
34:39
yes come on from y'all presence yeah and
34:41
from the music matching the character as
34:44
well you know it's like one thing when
34:45
you fall in love with someone's gift
34:47
with someone's skill set but you don't
34:49
really know the person the human yeah
34:51
behind that art yeah but to know that
34:55
the humanity within y'all is just as
34:57
pure as the Arts is just it's massive
35:01
it's incredible there's not enough words
35:03
to really accurately
35:06
share exactly how I'm feeling I'm truly
35:08
I'm so grateful because that's why I
35:10
feel it with the light that we both
35:12
share like this is not just about y'all
35:14
too as a as a Duo yeah y'all are really
35:17
representing the collective
35:19
wow
35:21
he said it was going to be a celebration
35:23
come on we told we said when they come
35:27
up here yeah we said that two and gone
35:29
100 we got to celebrate
35:34
2023. come on I ain't came off Ghana
35:37
they can't tell me
35:51
the benefit of two was crazy because
35:53
when I was in the lobby with DB and we
35:56
were saying hello to Toby and fat uh
35:59
Toby was like yo this is the first time
36:01
I'm seeing you I'm like Toby we saw you
36:03
he was like you don't understand like
36:05
y'all are all here today we all here
36:09
today in the studio together and it
36:11
touched something in my spirit that's
36:13
why I hugged y'all like that because I
36:15
was like sometimes in life it's just
36:17
about showing up come on come on Heather
36:19
you just got to show up whether you're
36:22
in poverty whether you sitting on top of
36:25
the mountain you just got to be present
36:27
to get that energy and show up 100 you
36:29
know what I mean and I was like wow look
36:31
at today everybody showed up yeah that's
36:34
what this all is it's just that
36:36
celebration yeah and everybody's showing
36:38
up today and you're worthless is the
36:40
same too when y'all were in different
36:42
Financial spaces
36:46
we remember that raggedy South Boston
36:48
tomorrow
36:56
so we found a spot across from the
36:59
homeless people
37:06
together
37:10
100 it's different now though yeah
37:14
but we showed up back then too that's
37:16
what I'm saying it's crazy when life
37:18
what God brings yeah it's crazy do the
37:21
kids sing and rap and dance all the time
37:24
they know they know all the lyrics All
37:27
the dance all the choreography all that
37:29
everything to everything yeah and it's
37:31
hilarious it's insane because they
37:33
really prefer to watch it sometimes over
37:35
their cartoons and stuff too yeah yeah
37:37
they'll like want to watch the shows and
37:39
stuff like that and do all the dances
37:41
and sing all the songs that's saying
37:42
something they got used to the stage
37:44
100. they're getting right they're
37:46
getting ready
37:47
because I remember what was that I can't
37:50
think of the name of that um y'all did
37:53
the uh performance
37:54
um at downtown during the pandemic and
37:57
we did an interview afterwards at that
37:59
what's that venue downtown by Union
38:01
Square
38:02
sobs not sobs
38:05
oh I know you talking about uh don't
38:08
worry Toby exactly I've been too many
38:10
places I'm gonna ask you to remember it
38:12
uh Sony Music Hall so
38:14
chess club
38:15
what's the whole house
38:25
yeah I just remember like I always found
38:28
that because I got a daughter so as she
38:31
grew up going to she been to More VMA
38:33
award shows than than probably Carson
38:37
Daly yeah
38:38
every time I did one I have her work
38:41
behind the camera so just let her be on
38:43
the carpet and just gave her that
38:45
freedom yeah right and now you know you
38:48
can't tell her what she can't do 100 she
38:50
can't hear that yeah she only knows what
38:53
she can do and I would imagine you're
38:55
hoping that it rub off on your camera
38:56
100 yeah yeah my kids don't understand
38:59
anything is possible yeah and you you've
39:02
seen way more at three two and one years
39:04
old than I than I saw uh up until I was
39:07
like 33. absolutely yeah and you're
39:11
gonna see way more of the world and you
39:13
gonna just understand like you're not
39:15
confined to whatever space that that you
39:19
grew up in you can go wherever you'd
39:21
have been Italy you'd have been there
39:22
you've been in all kinds of places in
39:24
Africa you've been to uh then you'd have
39:26
been a whole bunch of different places
39:27
so you understand like you know what the
39:29
airplane is now we leave the house
39:31
sometimes you think we just going to the
39:32
airport
39:36
s yeah
39:39
you know we have passports
39:43
like 20 when you got yours
40:03
thinking about your kids also
40:05
it is brings to mind fat specifically
40:08
for you there's a lot of uh speaking oh
40:11
that's beautiful Come on talk about it
40:13
say what you got to say say what you got
40:15
to say come bring them all right he just
40:18
turned he just turned uh one last year
40:27
what's up buddy hey
40:32
little man what kind of sneakers you got
40:34
on
40:37
how you doing bro
40:40
okay what's up man what's up
40:45
yeah oh yeah better than a lot of adults
40:48
but I would say ain't no fat there's a
40:51
lot of like women now who
40:53
have very transparent conversations
40:56
about motherhood about marriage and a
40:58
lot of the fears that some women have is
41:02
that they'll lose themselves in
41:04
motherhood they'll lose themselves in
41:05
marriage and finding a balance between
41:07
individuality and partnership for
41:10
yourself what would you say is the
41:13
difference between fat the individual
41:15
fat the wife fat the mother as well as
41:18
how they all intersect
41:20
um you know what I think that that's the
41:23
thing I think because they intersect
41:25
they all are one I am a mother I am a
41:29
wife I am a sister I'm an aunt I am a
41:32
friend I am that person so it just
41:34
depends on what is necessary of me at
41:37
that time you know what I mean so I
41:39
don't
41:40
um I try not to lose myself completely
41:43
in taking care of my children because
41:45
another part of me Toby needs you know
41:48
what I mean and then
41:50
um
41:55
and that's why you're about to have four
41:57
kids yeah yeah yeah six months pregnant
42:00
right now good good six months back I'm
42:02
about to be uncle again yes yes keep
42:05
going fast I think the number was six
42:07
right
42:09
tell me snug that's that six and we said
42:12
five initially yeah so listen if I don't
42:15
have twins next go round I'm done we did
42:18
say one more round one more round we got
42:20
one more round
42:21
okay cool but no but it is it is um easy
42:24
to be uh have tunnel vision and I think
42:28
that's what a lot of women are talking
42:29
about when they say that you know you
42:31
lose yourself in something you just have
42:33
tunnel vision at that time just open up
42:35
your your your site a little bit and see
42:38
all the things that you are and then
42:40
give every one of those whatever it
42:42
needs in that moment amen
42:45
um what's next we got Jimmy Fallon
42:48
Friday night
42:53
we got Coachella okay we got Coachella
42:57
and April okay what else we got going on
43:00
oh yeah we got Transformers coming out
43:02
in June
43:15
uh coming on Netflix in September
43:17
congratulations
43:20
[Applause]
43:23
I've met someone who worked with you
43:25
come on
43:26
I want to say either I'm thinking on
43:28
Transformers yes did you not want to
43:31
wear makeup or something like that yeah
43:33
yeah I said yeah unfortunately
43:57
let me tell you something first of all
43:59
the way I got the Transformers robe was
44:01
insane and I don't know if I uh told
44:04
this too many times but
44:06
the director first of all it's the black
44:08
first black director for uh Transformers
44:11
okay so usually Michael baby doing it
44:13
right this this is the first time
44:15
Stephen cable Jr is going to be doing it
44:18
wow okay and watch some good surprise
44:20
baby yeah progress yeah first black
44:22
director of trans uh in the Transformer
44:24
uh uh uh series and he had uh one of his
44:30
best friends was a fan of the music and
44:33
his best friend right like as they was
44:34
getting ready to start shooting the
44:35
movie past
44:38
what's past yeah and he had Paramount
44:43
Studios reach out to me to try to play a
44:47
specific the best friend role in uh in
44:51
Transformers
44:53
um
44:54
they come they kind of emulated uh uh
44:58
the the uh his best friend who his best
44:59
friend was in real life Wow
45:02
and he told Paramount oh I don't know if
45:05
I can say all this but I'm gonna say who
45:06
cares yeah it's all right it's okay yeah
45:09
I'm sorry he said that like reach out to
45:12
Tope and if he send anything back that's
45:14
even halfway decent
45:16
I want to use him
45:18
and I record I wish I could show y'all
45:20
you got it on your phone yeah your
45:23
audition yeah yeah but because I had
45:25
never done no acting ever in my life
45:27
yeah I just had this script right here
45:32
and just read it like I was acting and
45:35
just recorded myself on the iPhone and I
45:37
was like yo there's no way here exactly
45:41
that's what I was doing I'm fat what you
45:42
think
45:44
that sounds like I'm serious yeah she's
45:46
like do it 10 more times
45:48
so so I I did that sent that in
45:52
and they liked it and they said all
45:54
right yeah we would love to have you I
45:56
said all right cool this is this is
45:58
phenomenal but I just and it's a great
46:00
opportunity but
46:02
if I come out because they was like yo
46:03
it's gonna take about what a month
46:05
you're gonna have to be in Montreal for
46:07
a month
46:08
it's like yeah during the pandemic and
46:11
stuff when they shot it yeah so I was
46:13
like yeah a while ago yeah we got
46:15
Anthony Ramos song remember when he was
46:17
talking about he was about to go to
46:18
Canada to shoot that's who told me yeah
46:20
that's my dog that's my dog yeah that's
46:23
the way to bring a full circle thank you
46:24
DB yeah so yeah before we went out there
46:26
I said yeah unfortunately the way my
46:28
life is set up I can't be apart from my
46:31
wife and my kids for a whole month I
46:33
don't I don't do that so are they gonna
46:35
they gonna have to come with me and I'll
46:37
when I when I suggested it I was like
46:38
yeah there's gonna be what shut it down
46:40
and I ain't gonna be able to be no actor
46:42
like we thought
46:43
all those 10 up all those 10 auditions
46:46
you did down the drain 100 yeah 10 takes
46:50
but they said all right and they flew my
46:52
whole family up there come on Brother
46:54
come on
46:55
[Applause]
46:58
the chosen two I did it yeah
47:02
first that was like even before this Mo
47:04
series came out we shot the Transformer
47:06
stuff so I never had done any acting
47:08
nothing nothing literally nothing and
47:10
now you're playing reek yeah yeah
47:17
and it's a real role it's a real role
47:20
people like some people thought I was
47:22
just gonna be in there like oh no this
47:24
is Transformer like nah you know I got
47:25
an actual mind wait Toby you let them
47:27
take some Sean off for that at least
47:29
the papers
47:33
I said you could block me don't uh yeah
47:35
they did they did do like a a fake scar
47:38
no no they just highlighted the starter
47:42
yeah yeah yeah
47:46
they put a little uh uh like costume
47:50
bring the score to life I was like all
47:52
right cool okay I compromise all right
47:54
hey you want to ask DB what are you
47:56
doing over there uh hopefully he getting
47:58
uh uh biggie one more chance so I can
48:00
get y'all one more
48:09
this is the thing my plan was to walk in
48:13
here and say yeah before we get all our
48:14
family festivities going let me just
48:17
like kill the little tension and anxiety
48:19
for that people have when they come
48:21
because they know they got the rap let
48:22
me just get that out the way okay
48:23
because you got to do something serious
48:25
when you come here it's not a game okay
48:27
and the people who do play around when
48:29
they come here yeah yeah I just really
48:31
feel like yeah I'm gonna take this way
48:34
around yeah I'm gonna let the people say
48:35
it and say what they need to say to
48:36
those people but I just feel like Yeah
48:38
The Audacity Of you to come to here to
48:42
come to the mecca of verses the mecca of
48:46
raps
48:47
the mecca of freestyles and not have
48:50
something prepared right there brother
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that's the new intro before people Rap
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by the way
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yeah we gonna get that you don't come up
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here yeah and play around well you know
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the first time I never forget the first
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time you came up here man it was it was
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special yes it was it was special you
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remember that fat it was like you ate
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you were so hungry oh my gosh I knew
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y'all hadn't ate in 48 hours
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[Music]
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your life I hail from the land the
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purple sprite with Legends Like Fat Pat
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and poked and broke the mic Don Key
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taught me to pimp the pen to hurt the
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right and Paul Wall said when you smile
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hurt they sight I could do that word a
50:30
little flip here Clover G shout out to
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the dummies who thought I'd only rap
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locally nowadays I'll be overseas and
50:36
fat ovaries so much so I can so believe
50:38
say we about to have some more kids yeah
50:41
I shoot up the club southwest they leave
50:43
Texas I grew up with thugs
50:45
I don't type text or use my thumbs I
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fight with hand fat fighting oh God who
50:50
else you know how to transform a movie
50:52
road but still keep a couple sticks on
50:54
them like a sushi roll fat can't box but
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she got head shots for your goofy though
50:57
if everybody around you cheeks you a
50:59
booty hoe listen get a grip and pay
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attention I should low-key charged
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tuition every bomb spitting dripping and
51:04
anointing my little misses give me
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Woodies in my britches that's why we
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just had a new addition listen how my
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loins sing
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me she keep that fine side of pantyhose
51:14
and let it dump for me and for sagey
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pulling baby fat and chuku as a if they
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do do Lane place she gon detonate that
51:20
fight like Pepe soup but I don't want
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friction just the fixings to protect my
51:24
chicken work to Marshawn Lynch and all
51:25
them hence when they grew up in trenches
51:27
you could see my addiction got
51:28
conviction and it's reminiscing of the
51:30
one who passed by crucifixion look I am
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the meanest Behemoth that you have seen
51:33
with the power needed to shift the
51:35
Heathen the consecration most demons
51:37
blaspheme and fiend for region saturated
51:39
than things that weaken your
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concentration my whole hood is really my
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congregation I give them everything they
51:45
give me cause they know that my
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Innovation is really an integration that
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I lay adjacent to the manifestation of
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the Undisputed heavyweighted hella
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sacred melanated true and living Master
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of the Universe you give a gift with
51:57
evil intentions you accursed you on a
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road but you're dead inside then you
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rehearse look I know
52:03
dead weight skin folk ain't always
52:05
Kinfolk get your head straight if you
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got cake but the folk around you fake I
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want you to understand your man's is not
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your man's you a Segway so here's come
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up don't get your tongue stuck or look
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dumbstruck when pseudo homies run up
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with hands out you ain't cool as a fan
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they ain't fanned out the only reason
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why they stand in this cause you stand
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out
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ouch
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top tier sucker status you boys love
52:25
breaking laws hate breaking habits my
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only hope is that the passage that I
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took to leave my Savage ways is one that
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you could honor like the Sabbath amen
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yeah
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yeah yeah yeah yeah
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I just wanted yeah
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yeah
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well hey welcome home my brother welcome
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home come on transcendent
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[Applause]
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you're beyond a hyena jungle thank you
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you the king of the jungle thank you
53:23
king of the jungle what you say about
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breaking habits uh yeah some boys love
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breaking laws but they just they just
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hate breaking habits
53:33
we're gonna end on that note my brother
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man from the first time to this time you
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only you only Elevate thank you I didn't
53:41
even want to get super hyped like I
53:43
normally do you know I got a little too
53:45
hype I messed up a couple times
53:50
yeah I was you should have been fat and
53:54
can't won't fight you but you'll get
53:56
your Dome pieces
53:58
that got people scared of her man I
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swear man it was girls like hey is she
54:03
gonna be cool you know how you act you
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know I love it man yo Toby I love y'all
54:09
you were the truth brother man we got
54:10
the king of the jungle
54:13
gotta get a lion roar yeah
54:25
on this show it just
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2011.
54:31
can't go to Jungle status come on now
54:34
there's something in the past who
54:35
probably could easily have that time 100
54:38
yeah but we just thought of it today no
54:40
disrespect no disrespect yeah but for
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moving forward everybody I get the king
54:44
of a jungle yo and that's what I mean
54:48
through all the success all the
54:50
platforms y'all hit all the people you
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meet yeah
54:54
your creativity come on come on still
54:57
excels and expands and elevates Man by
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the grace of God come on man you're a
55:02
vessel brother you're a vessel my sister
55:04
you guys are conduits check them out on
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Jimmy Fallon yeah say it again Jimmy
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Fallon Friday night yeah I'm gonna say
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Friday night cause we're gonna post this
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tomorrow so Friday night check them out
55:16
tonight uh on Jimmy Fallon crazy the
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this royal couple of our culture of our
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community of our Global Community uh
55:25
should be protected at all times come on
55:28
protect them at all times support them
55:30
at all times and pray for them at all at
55:34
all times okay pray for their family uh
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pray for uh Nell the whole click yeah
55:40
pray for the whole team the whole
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village we love y'all we love you I
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cried today man come on yeah but
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not sadness though
55:51
amen happy tears man and uh go off and
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stay great we here for you and it was
55:57
great celebrating with y'all today give
55:59
it up for Toby in fact
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[Applause]
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