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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:33 - Planet Asia Early Days & DJ Scratch
05:51 - DJ Scratch Current Tour Raekwon Mobb Deep
07:25 - DJ Scratch Getting His Flowers
15:02 - Produce Section
21:15 - DJ Scratch Planet Asia Sway in the Morning
22:19 - Importance of Producers in Music
29:05 - Aaron from Cali
31:10 - Knowledge is Power in Hip Hop
33:35 - DJ Scratch & Planet Asia Discussion
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0:00
The legendary DJ Scratch,
0:03
the legendary Planet Asia. We got them
0:06
both in the building right now. Come on,
0:08
man. Round of applause.
0:11
>> Wow.
0:12
>> Wow, man. That that that right there
0:15
sounds amazing.
0:16
>> Sound like hip-hop.
0:17
>> Sound like hip-hop.
0:18
>> Sound like hip-hop.
0:19
>> Come on, man. What we have right here is
0:22
a true grandmaster. New music seminar
0:24
battle for world superior superiority DJ
0:28
champion. Master of the mix, champion.
0:31
Global spin awards turntableist of the
0:33
year champion. Superior producer, a
0:37
champion. Uh uh sup superior physical
0:40
physicality. Heaven be [laughter] a
0:42
champion. Scratch vision. The huge
0:45
platform that I had a chance to go to
0:47
his house and be a part of a champion.
0:50
What you have over here is one of
0:52
California's one of the world's
0:54
greatest, most successful, most
0:56
consistent rappers to ever pick up a
0:58
mic. He's a champion representing the
1:01
swamps all across the globe. He's a
1:04
champion celebrating I want to say
1:07
>> 49.
1:08
>> 49.
1:09
>> That's what your birthday.
1:10
>> Yeah.
1:11
>> 49. Really,
1:12
>> dude? You still LOOK LIKE YOU 29
1:15
CHAMPION.
1:15
>> WOW. Happy birthday.
1:16
>> We We dropped the album on his birthday.
1:19
>> Oh, wow. Wow.
1:20
>> We got Planet Asia and DJ Scratch are
1:23
here. Give them a big round of applause.
1:26
>> Wow, man. I didn't
1:28
>> Long time swag.
1:29
>> Long time, man.
1:30
>> I was 19 when you met me.
1:31
>> Yo, that's crazy.
1:33
>> Yeah, I was I was on 19. Yeah.
1:36
>> At 19.
1:37
>> Yeah.
1:37
>> So,
1:38
>> Cali Agents
1:39
>> came out 2000.
1:41
>> In 2000.
1:42
>> I came out 97.
1:44
>> Yes. And then Cali 98.
1:46
>> 90.
1:46
>> Rasco came out 97. when I came out 98
1:48
cuz I was hype man for him. That's how I
1:50
ended up on your show.
1:51
>> Really?
1:52
>> Yeah. I was his hype man first.
1:54
>> Uh-huh. For Rasco.
1:55
>> For Rasco when he had the unassisted.
1:57
>> Uh-huh.
1:57
>> Y'all was
2:01
banging. Yeah.
2:02
>> Back and forth, right?
2:03
>> Yeah. That was a DJ's battle record. You
2:05
know what I mean? Ha. They used to kill
2:08
that all the time.
2:09
>> Used to kill that all the time. 25 years
2:12
anniversary of Cali Agents. Yo, we
2:15
making real monumental milestones right
2:17
now, right? I'm I'm giving Scratches
2:19
information. You look at Scratch, he
2:21
look like he 29, too, right?
2:24
>> 57,
2:24
>> man. Give it up for DJ Scratch, man. God
2:27
bless this man. [applause] That's what
2:28
hip hop is right now.
2:30
>> So, what you saying?
2:31
>> What you saying? [laughter]
2:34
>> This album that you guys, this album is
2:37
available right now, right? Yes. Where
2:39
did you come up with the title,
2:41
>> man? I just wanted to um
2:45
something that something that sounded
2:47
royal, something that sounded
2:49
>> just epic, you know what I mean? But but
2:51
not the typical hip-hop titles and and
2:54
that just came to me like that.
2:55
>> Kings Dominion. Yeah.
2:57
>> Right. Um when how did this combination
3:01
scratch and Asia like how did where did
3:04
y'all even meet? Like
3:05
>> we ran we ran into each other at uh A3C.
3:08
Okay. Okay.
3:08
>> This is like back what was that like
3:10
2000
3:10
>> Mhm.
3:11
>> Uhhuh.
3:12
>> 20.
3:12
>> That's a seminar that used to take place
3:14
in um in Atlanta for independent
3:16
artists. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
3:17
>> I still got the photo was I got a photo.
3:19
It's me, him, and YZ.
3:20
>> Uh-huh. Yeah. Y Z.
3:22
>> Tower with Power. [laughter]
3:24
>> Yeah. So, he he was uh I ran into him
3:26
down there. He was like, "Yo, man, we
3:28
should do an album together." I'm like,
3:29
"I'm with that."
3:30
>> We swap numbers and I'm like, "I'm going
3:31
to be in contact." But at that time, I
3:33
was I was busy working on projects and
3:35
and just life at that time. So
3:37
>> I'm like, I'm going to get back with you
3:38
though,
3:39
>> you know, and I just stayed in contact
3:41
with him
3:42
>> and then boom, the time is right now. So
3:44
here we go.
3:46
>> So this all took place um precoid,
3:49
[clears throat] right? Pre pre when we
3:51
had to shut down, you know, this is when
3:55
the curfew was here. You know, the world
3:57
was in shambles.
3:59
>> Y'all completed the project but decided
4:01
not to release it,
4:02
>> right? Cuz we we didn't want to release
4:03
in in the middle of that chaos. Uh-huh.
4:05
>> And at that time we we didn't know if we
4:07
was going to live or die. You know what
4:08
I mean? Like literally like
4:10
>> Yeah.
4:10
>> It was weird outside.
4:11
>> Yeah.
4:12
>> Right. And so what kind of enhancements
4:16
did you make from then to now to get it
4:18
to sound like this?
4:19
>> Nothing.
4:20
>> This is what it was.
4:21
>> Yes.
4:22
>> True indeed.
4:23
>> That's it.
4:24
>> Wow. Man,
4:25
>> you know what's crazy? I actually when
4:28
we first I think after the first song I
4:31
might have that's when I I think we had
4:32
breakfast.
4:33
>> Yeah. And we sat and this I don't know
4:35
about the project. Yeah. Scratch don't
4:36
even know you, [laughter] you know. This
4:38
is we sat and had breakfast and you was
4:41
telling me all the different things you
4:42
were doing, right?
4:43
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, yo, if this
4:45
DJ Scratch thing didn't go down, this
4:46
this it for me. Like for me, it's it's
4:49
bigger than than just even like, you
4:52
know, a rapper getting with a known
4:54
producer. It's a difference when you
4:56
grow up off somebody. It's like, yo,
4:58
this is my tree. Like, I feel like I'm
5:00
rhyming over what I'm supposed to be
5:01
rhyming over finally. You know what I
5:03
mean? Like I grew up off of RunMC, LL,
5:05
CoolJ, EPMBB. I'm a baby of Def Jam.
5:08
>> Yeah.
5:08
>> So for me it's like this is the closest
5:10
thing to being like
5:12
>> connected to Run DMC.
5:14
>> You know what I'm saying? Connected to
5:15
L. You know what I'm saying? Like this
5:17
this cuz he's a direct from JMJ.
5:21
>> Yeah.
5:21
>> You know this like this is my whole
5:24
thing right here. It could have anybody
5:26
else.
5:26
>> Uhhuh.
5:27
>> This is the one.
5:28
>> This is the one. DJ Scratch, man. I know
5:30
you done flooded this man with all kind
5:32
of questions like [laughter]
5:34
about the past about projects. Yeah.
5:36
>> I don't have I just listen to what you
5:38
know I just he once he started talking
5:40
I'm like why like what happened in 19 89
5:45
what shootout you had in Texas.
5:47
[laughter]
5:48
>> Amen.
5:49
>> Man there there's this is an interesting
5:51
time right now. DJ Scratch you on the
5:53
road right with um Mob Deep and Ray
5:55
Klein. Yes. Right. And and and how did
5:57
that come about? I and I know because I
6:00
saw you I feel like I saw you on the
6:01
role with the Wuang.
6:02
>> Yes.
6:03
>> Right. And I
6:04
>> It was an opening act for them.
6:05
>> You was on the opening act.
6:06
>> Yeah.
6:06
>> Rizza has Does Rizza has anything to do
6:10
with this with the Raycoin Mob Deep
6:12
tour?
6:12
>> Yes.
6:12
>> Okay. Talk about that.
6:14
>> Yeah. So, you know, um me and Rizza did
6:16
an album together
6:18
>> in uh 2022 and and we just been
6:21
connected ever since then, you know what
6:22
I mean? And then um so once the uh that
6:26
tour happened, he was like, "Yo, come
6:27
out, you know, come out on the tour.
6:29
Open up for us." And then we did the uh
6:31
New York State of Mind part one and part
6:33
two.
6:34
>> Then we did the Vegas residency, the
6:36
Wuang Vegas residency.
6:38
>> And you know, it's just been a
6:39
connection since then. And um and once
6:42
they announced this tour, I saw the
6:44
announcement. I'm like, "That's a dope
6:45
that's a dope tour." Mob Deep and
6:48
Raycoin. And then um maybe like a few
6:51
weeks later they reached out. They was
6:53
like and I didn't even know that that
6:55
they reached out to Rizza to reach out
6:57
to me to curate the tour for them.
7:02
>> Wow.
7:03
>> RZ is the Abbott. You know what I mean?
7:05
>> Definitely the Oracle, right?
7:06
>> Yeah.
7:06
>> Yeah.
7:07
>> Yeah. So they reached out to Rizza was
7:08
like, "Yo, you think Scratch will um you
7:11
know will come come out on the tour with
7:13
us?"
7:14
>> He's like, "I'll talk to him." So when
7:15
he called me, I'm like, "Of course."
7:16
Right. You know,
7:17
>> it's Mob Deep. is is Rayquan and I've
7:20
worked with both of them before, you
7:21
know what I mean? So, yeah. So, that was
7:23
really it.
7:23
>> I wanted to ask you about that scratch
7:25
because we were having a conversation
7:27
this morning about something that Sway
7:28
and King Tech does called for the
7:30
Culture and they're just honoring, you
7:32
know, u the elements of hip hop and
7:34
>> December 14th at the region Theater
7:37
Club. Okay. We're [laughter] going to be
7:38
honoring
7:39
Cass Supernatural,
7:42
>> King Crooked.
7:43
>> Oh, you took it there. Lawrence
7:44
Professor and Prince Ken Swift from the
7:47
original Rock Steady Crew.
7:49
>> Where's this at?
7:50
>> Region here in downtown LA. You there,
7:52
man. December 14th.
7:53
>> December 14th.
7:54
>> And Heather, before you quit, I just
7:56
want to just say it's great to see you.
7:57
>> You too.
7:58
>> Great to see you.
7:59
>> Thank you. Thank you. I thought about
8:01
you this morning when Sway was talking
8:02
about that cuz I was asking them about
8:04
their how they select, you know, people
8:06
who they want to honor and he broke that
8:08
down. But I thought about you
8:09
specifically because your name DJ
8:12
Scratch, you are synonymous with DJing.
8:15
Everybody knows your accolades.
8:16
Everybody from our our history in
8:18
hip-hop when we grew up loving it. But
8:20
you're also a producer. Yes.
8:22
>> And I I feel like your name doesn't come
8:24
up enough when they talk about
8:26
producers. Um how do you I mean as a fan
8:30
I for me I can say that but how do you
8:32
personally feel about that? Because when
8:34
you hear DJ Scratch, you automatically
8:36
ready to, you know, watch you do your
8:38
thing. But then when you hear his music,
8:40
it's like, damn, this is dope. Oh, who
8:42
produced that? At Scratch, who produced
8:44
that? But, you know, Buster, everybody
8:46
you worked with.
8:47
>> How do you feel about that?
8:48
>> I I really don't feel a way about it,
8:50
but you know, certain things you got to
8:52
let the spans the fans speak for you.
8:54
Okay.
8:55
>> I hear it all the time like, "Yo, you're
8:56
underrated. You're underrated." As long
8:58
as my name is on them credits,
9:00
>> right,
9:01
>> and on the publishing checks and all of
9:03
that.
9:03
>> Yeah.
9:04
>> You know, I'm I'm cool with that. And
9:05
you know, unfortunately,
9:07
you know, you don't get your your your
9:09
flowers until you die,
9:11
>> you know. Unfortunately, hopefully we
9:13
can turn that that type of thing around.
9:15
But um you know, I'm going just continue
9:17
to just do my part and and hopefully the
9:19
the uh the people that appreciate the
9:22
music keep, you know, preaching and and
9:24
speaking the gospel about appreciating
9:27
the work that I've been putting out
9:29
>> over the past four decades.
9:31
>> Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
9:32
>> Yeah. No, it's just interesting because
9:34
DJ Premiere has DJ Premiere in front of
9:36
his name,
9:37
>> but he's known for production,
9:39
>> but DJ Scratch has DJ Scratch in front
9:41
of his name. And you known for D. It's
9:42
just weird how it works. Yeah. How it
9:45
how it works. And
9:46
>> I think I think because I think because
9:49
the the DJ work was so dominant like I
9:52
came in as a world champion, the
9:53
greatest the best DJ in the world,
9:55
>> right?
9:56
>> You know, so so that's going to stick
9:58
>> stick.
9:58
>> And then um when I was producing and you
10:02
know I started I started at a young age.
10:04
So when I was producing a lot of work
10:05
that I that I did I didn't get credit
10:07
for back then. Can you
10:09
>> you know we were all getting jerked.
10:10
>> Yeah. But like what what are some songs
10:12
you could
10:12
>> like EPMD's Rampage?
10:14
>> You did Rampage?
10:15
>> Yes. I did I did half of that album.
10:18
>> Okay.
10:19
>> But I got credit for one. I got credit
10:21
for Funky Piano.
10:23
>> But I produced Brothers on My Jock
10:25
Rampage.
10:26
>> Uh For My People,
10:28
>> Funky Piano,
10:30
>> uh damn, I can't even think of the rest
10:32
of the the songs. But but I did six
10:34
songs on that album.
10:35
>> Uhhuh. and and you know and back then
10:39
if you don't if your name ain't on the
10:40
credits you get somebody else is going
10:42
to get the the the credit for it. You
10:44
know what I mean? So
10:44
>> yeah.
10:45
>> And they get the money too. The the the
10:47
residuals
10:48
>> and and we worked that right. All of
10:50
that.
10:50
>> Yeah.
10:51
>> All of that.
10:51
>> But you worked that out. You you
10:53
>> Yeah, that's worked out now. Yeah. All
10:54
that's on my publishing statements now.
10:56
>> But I think I think it's because of that
10:58
like the DJ work was so dominant
11:00
>> and then back then I was producing a lot
11:02
of stuff stuff and wasn't getting the
11:04
credit for it. And then also back then,
11:06
me and Havoc was just talking about this
11:08
>> cuz Havoc said the same thing. I'm like,
11:09
"Yo, you they don't bring your name up
11:12
>> in these conversations. You're one of
11:13
the greatest producers of all time."
11:16
>> I think Shook Ones might be the greatest
11:18
hip-hop song ever.
11:19
>> You'd be it'd be hard to argue that.
11:21
>> You know what [laughter] I'm saying?
11:22
It's hard to argue.
11:23
>> Yeah. Right.
11:24
>> But they don't mention him. You know
11:25
what I mean? And I'm like, and and and
11:27
this is what he said. He said, "Yo,
11:28
Scratch, we didn't we didn't put
11:30
producer tags on our records." I'm like,
11:32
"You're right. It started like right
11:35
after that.
11:36
>> Who was the first? Was it Track Masters
11:38
or who was the first? You really I think
11:40
it was Swiss Swiss Beast.
11:42
>> Yeah, I think I think it was
11:44
>> Track Masters maybe.
11:45
>> They to put the producer tag.
11:47
>> Yeah, I think it was Swiss.
11:49
>> Wow.
11:50
>> You You know what it was? Not Not even
11:52
just the producer tag, the artist
11:54
shouting out the producer.
11:56
>> That's what it was.
11:57
>> Uhhuh.
11:58
>> Yeah. Because you can be like track
12:00
masters and the the the people that's
12:03
listening, they just think it's a part
12:04
of the song,
12:05
>> but when the artist say Swiss on the
12:07
beat and then just blade, you know what
12:10
I mean?
12:10
>> It gives it a different gives it a
12:12
different that made me think of like
12:14
Prince Paul or something like you don't
12:15
like you get screamed out like that.
12:18
>> So you don't never really hear.
12:19
>> Can you imagine if we was doing those
12:20
tags back back in the 80s?
12:22
>> You didn't even think to do it like
12:24
Yeah.
12:25
>> And Prince Paul is like havoc. one of
12:27
those people they don't mention cuz they
12:29
don't know.
12:30
>> But you know what it was too and we
12:31
talked about this earlier. We read so
12:33
much more back then. We read every
12:36
single like part of it all. We knew you
12:38
were producing. We knew you did the
12:40
cuts. We we cuz we had to read those
12:42
liner notes in order to find out things.
12:43
I think now they have to shout it out
12:45
because a is not that many hard copies
12:48
of things and then people just don't
12:49
freaking read like nobody wants. every
12:52
now, you know, on on my Instagram every
12:54
now and then, you know, like maybe like
12:55
two, three times a year, I'll post
12:58
>> songs that I produce. And and you'll see
13:00
in the comments, you I did not know you
13:02
did Give Me Some More.
13:03
>> Mhm. You did Give Me Some More. Crazy.
13:05
>> I knew that. Yeah.
13:06
>> I didn't know you did this. I didn't
13:07
know you did El Bomb. I didn't know you
13:09
did the scratches on Maxwell's whole
13:11
album. I didn't I didn't know any You
13:13
know, you have to
13:14
>> You have to keep Yeah, you have people.
13:17
You got to keep reminding people. Bomb
13:18
was crazy. Yo, I was I was coming down
13:22
125th. You know what made me like that
13:23
song? I'm coming down 125th Street. Some
13:27
old lady this one during co you know the
13:30
big Bluetooth speakers.
13:32
>> I I always knew about that song but the
13:34
way I heard it this particular
13:35
[laughter] day I just stopped. It was
13:37
LIKE YO I I SLEPT OH. And I listen to
13:41
that song at least twice a week now. But
13:43
it was an old lady playing it. She was
13:45
sitting on the corner like she had to be
13:47
like 60 bro.
13:48
>> Uhhuh. I was like, I'm looking at her.
13:49
>> [ __ ] we about 60. THAT'S HER ERROR.
13:51
[laughter]
13:53
>> You know what I'm saying?
13:53
>> But she didn't look like us. SHE
13:57
used to look when we was coming up.
14:00
>> That old [laughter] 60.
14:02
That Bluetooth speaker was hitting L
14:04
jumped on that one, too. He jumped on
14:06
it. He went crazy.
14:07
>> You know what I like? Uh, first of all,
14:10
just like Scratch, DJ Scratch, the
14:12
Grandmaster,
14:14
Planet Asia is one of those people.
14:16
Yeah.
14:16
>> That the world don't realize and
14:18
recognize a lot either.
14:20
>> How many projects you've done, how many
14:22
features you've done,
14:24
>> right?
14:24
>> Planet Asia, you catch him on any part
14:26
of the world rocking a stage.
14:30
>> In the same
14:32
>> lineage as I put a black thought,
14:34
>> right?
14:34
>> Right. a very dense lyrical gym
14:38
gymnastic, you know, acrobatic MC who
14:42
never falls off, you know, and I want to
14:45
say salute to you
14:46
>> cuz this project is incredible.
14:49
>> This is my brother, so it's hard
14:50
sometimes. We we have conversations and
14:53
it's when we on the radio, it's like,
14:55
oh, I got to be sway, you know what I
14:56
mean?
14:58
>> [laughter]
15:00
>> Same with Scratch, you know, and you
15:02
know, your style is um so unique to me.
15:05
I want to ask you about this song called
15:07
Produce a Seed Through You.
15:08
>> Oh, yeah.
15:09
>> Right. Where when you hear that title,
15:11
what you think he talking about?
15:13
>> Producing a seed through you.
15:15
>> You
15:17
sound It sound like he's talking about
15:19
impregnating a woman.
15:20
>> Right. Right.
15:21
>> Oh, seed.
15:22
>> Seed. But when you peel the layers back
15:24
and you break down the the what it's all
15:27
about,
15:28
>> tell them what it's about.
15:30
>> It's about the different stages in my
15:32
life and different types of weed. So
15:36
>> So at the Take it back to the chocolate.
15:38
Yeah. At the [laughter] beginning at the
15:40
beginning I had No, at the beginning it
15:41
was Mexican brick weed.
15:43
>> And it's funny cuz kind of parallel my
15:45
little first date as a kid I had a
15:46
little Mexican girlfriend. Boom. Then my
15:49
[laughter]
15:49
and then you know what I'm saying? It
15:51
switches up. I get the the uh by the
15:53
time I get to like ninth grade, I got
15:55
the Ethiopian girl, which would be like
15:56
the Durban poison. That would be like
15:58
the cush. Okay.
15:58
>> You know what I'm saying? And [laughter]
16:00
so it's like it's taking you through
16:01
different stages of the weird thing. And
16:03
I'm like,
16:04
>> you be careful what be careful with her
16:06
cuz she like women too. So,
16:09
>> you know what I mean? [laughter]
16:11
Don't leave her around your girl too
16:12
long.
16:13
>> You got to listen to the whole song and
16:14
understand he's not talking about women.
16:16
>> Right. Right.
16:18
>> But that process though,
16:20
>> crazy
16:20
>> creative writing.
16:22
creative writing. And I I dare say like
16:25
when I think about all the albums that
16:26
have been coming out lately with um Big
16:28
L, Ghost, you know, Rayquin, Slick Rick,
16:32
all these diff different albums that's
16:34
coming out
16:35
>> and people not really giving a damn now.
16:37
We not trying to play the game. We just
16:40
being who we are. Let's just make music.
16:43
>> I feel like the era of the true MC is
16:46
back.
16:46
>> It is. Absolutely.
16:48
>> What What are you seeing when you out
16:49
there?
16:49
>> It definitely is. I feel like everybody
16:51
tapped back into that childhood energy.
16:54
>> Okay,
16:54
>> you gota you got I was saying this the
16:56
other day, you have to
16:57
>> make music with the same intent that you
16:59
know what made you excited when you was
17:01
young when you used to slapping those
17:03
VHS tapes and be watching videos eating
17:05
cereal like I'm doing this doing that.
17:08
You got to still have that same
17:10
>> I don't think he'll be cutting and
17:11
making up all these different I seen him
17:12
do some [ __ ] the other day. I'm like,
17:14
damn, dude. I didn't think you could I
17:16
didn't think there was nothing else you
17:17
can really do. [laughter]
17:19
Like that's all the tricks.
17:21
>> You just gonna bite your fingers on
17:22
[laughter] my elbows.
17:25
Like
17:26
>> so it's being able to come up with new
17:27
stuff still,
17:29
>> you know, at this age. It's like I like
17:30
it cuz it's not it's not a contact
17:32
sport. It's a mental sport.
17:33
>> It's a mental sport. What do you mean by
17:34
that?
17:35
>> We not getting banged up every day. I
17:37
mean, I I do a little bit cuz I perform
17:39
kind of hard, but you're not we're not
17:40
bumping into each other and you know,
17:42
breaking wrist and ankles unless you got
17:44
a weak ankle like so and so, but you
17:46
know what I mean?
17:46
>> Yeah. Yeah.
17:47
>> Like so.
17:48
>> So, I caught [laughter] that.
17:51
>> But does it take the right
17:55
>> play like a player coach situation? Like
17:57
the adult player still needs the right
18:00
coach. Does it take is it the same
18:01
dynamic you as an MC artist? Does it
18:04
take the right producer to keep that
18:06
energy in you? It does. Okay.
18:08
>> Absolutely. Yes, it does. And we we had
18:10
a conversation earlier
18:12
>> and he was like, "Yo, um, he said, I I
18:14
love Planet Asia, but I never heard him
18:16
rap like this." I said I said, "This
18:18
might be
18:19
>> the first time that he's actually like
18:21
been produced. Like you can rap over
18:23
beats,
18:23
>> right?
18:24
>> And then you can be produced like like
18:26
like a Quincy Jones. You know what I'm
18:28
saying? Mhm.
18:28
>> So this album you can hear
18:31
>> the production like vocal production.
18:34
>> That's what it was.
18:35
>> Um music production, bridges,
18:38
breakdowns, you know what I mean,
18:39
>> right?
18:40
>> I felt like it really cuz King Tekk and
18:43
I've always championed Asia like he he's
18:45
been our sniper, our sharpshooter
18:48
>> for decades, right? [laughter]
18:50
>> You know, and I love his music. But I
18:52
what I heard in this album was
18:55
>> I did can hear the
18:57
>> the cohesiveness
18:59
>> between what the two of you were doing
19:02
and those magical punchlines that you
19:04
always have like you got to really
19:07
listen to Asia.
19:08
>> It wasn't hard to hear.
19:10
>> Right. Right. The thing I I love him for
19:12
though is
19:14
>> I didn't really have to do too much. It
19:16
was kind of like already laid out, you
19:18
know. Uh, some producers they they they
19:21
they too interested in being beat makers
19:23
instead of producers. It's a difference
19:25
between a beat maker and a producer
19:27
>> cuz he being that he's already
19:29
experienced, he kind of knows
19:31
>> where the MC is supposed to rhyme at.
19:33
So, it's not confusing to where when you
19:35
when
19:35
>> I could do a track with somebody and
19:37
they'll send it back and the lyrics is
19:39
off or what they trying to do something
19:40
new to the not the same thing,
19:43
>> right?
19:43
>> We didn't really change the food from
19:45
its original way it was cooked. just
19:47
amplified it when by the time y'all got
19:50
to it, it was like mixed well. But as
19:52
far he didn't have to move my lyrics
19:53
around and do none of that goofy stuff.
19:55
>> You you Asia, you say, and I'mma read
19:58
this, my attribute has nothing to do
20:00
with entertaining, but you could say I'm
20:02
where the game is headed,
20:04
>> right?
20:04
>> Break that down for me.
20:06
>> Planet Asia, my name is uh Powerful
20:08
Jabar, right? And the game is going back
20:11
to having knowledge itself.
20:12
>> Okay?
20:12
>> You know what I'm saying? Uh knowledge,
20:14
having knowledge of self is actually
20:16
fly, man. It's nothing's nothing cool
20:18
about not having information. How you
20:20
gonna be an MC and you don't have no
20:21
information.
20:22
>> You know what I mean? Coming up, like
20:24
you said, we used to read the credits.
20:26
It was all about reading because you
20:27
know,
20:28
>> you might run into somebody like me.
20:30
>> Yep.
20:31
>> And I mean, think about it, man. Imagine
20:33
running into somebody like cannabis and
20:35
you calling yourself a rapper.
20:37
>> I mean, you know, cannabis at his prime.
20:39
You know what I mean? Like, imagine
20:40
running into somebody like that. You got
20:42
to be prepared for that.
20:43
>> Absolutely.
20:44
>> You know what I mean? I grew up off of L
20:45
and Ram, right?
20:47
>> That ain't stupid rap. [laughter]
20:49
>> You know what I'm saying? Right.
20:50
>> So, you have to you have to know
20:51
something yourself.
20:52
>> Yeah. So, it's getting back to that
20:54
because it I mean
20:55
>> the strings and all this. It's all about
20:58
>> the the having substance. You know what
21:01
I mean?
21:01
>> Having a vocabulary, not just getting on
21:04
a mic and just putting words together,
21:05
>> right?
21:06
>> Mumbling and
21:07
>> and carrying on as my grandmother used
21:09
to say. [laughter]
21:11
>> Oh, man.
21:12
>> Hooting and holling. Holling.
21:14
carry it on.
21:15
>> We got DJ Scratch is here. We got Planet
21:17
Asia is here as well. Um, give him a
21:20
round of applause. Let me take a couple
21:21
callers, too, man. Let's do it.
21:22
>> Let's get it. Let's go to line one.
21:24
Kimmo's on the line from the ATL. Chemo,
21:26
what up, KO?
21:29
>> Chemo.
21:31
>> Cheer theapy.
21:32
>> He has us on mute probably.
21:33
>> There you go. There you go, brother. Go
21:34
ahead. What's your word? What's on your
21:36
mind?
21:36
>> Yeah, man. Hey, man. Hey, man. This
21:39
collaboration is crazy to me. Like, um,
21:41
>> yeah. PA, you PA actually knows me as
21:45
Fatal. I was one of Mars producers.
21:48
>> Oh, okay.
21:49
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I just
21:51
>> Yeah.
21:54
>> What up?
21:54
>> Yeah. Yeah.
21:55
>> Yeah.
21:56
>> Congratulate y'all.
21:58
>> Yeah, man. I just want to congratulate
22:00
y'all guys. Like, this is like Voltron
22:02
forming together. PA, you still spin
22:04
like you sp 20 years ago.
22:07
>> So, yeah, man. That's all I want to call
22:09
and say. Congratulations to you guys,
22:11
man. That [ __ ] is dope.
22:12
>> Thank you. Thank you.
22:14
>> Uh yeah, thanks for your call, Kimo. You
22:16
a super citizen, man.
22:17
>> In the morning.
22:18
>> Um yeah, man. PA, I ain't never heard
22:20
that. They PA, that's what they call you
22:22
out here. [laughter]
22:24
>> Huh? They call you F. All right, Bobby,
22:26
go talk to us, man. What's on your mind?
22:28
>> What up, B?
22:29
>> What's happening? No, I wanted to touch
22:30
on what y'all talking about about the
22:32
producers earlier, the scratch. And
22:33
correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't
22:36
think um I think that the reason a lot
22:38
of producers that we came up on aren't
22:40
as known is because of they weren't an
22:43
artist and they didn't have the PR to
22:45
push their name forward like some of the
22:47
other producers. A lot of producers we
22:48
came up on were also artists such as
22:51
Dre, Eric, uh Quick, you know, so on and
22:54
so forth. So, they were able to their
22:56
name was able to reach more people
22:58
through their artistry as well as having
23:00
PR behind them.
23:01
>> N [ __ ] I was an artist, too. I was a
23:03
member of EPMD. [laughter]
23:05
>> Well, I mean I meant I meant as far as
23:07
like lyrically and like vocally and what
23:09
have you.
23:11
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But mo
23:13
most most you know
23:16
with EP like for EPMD for an example,
23:18
right? We were the only group in in
23:20
hip-hop history at that time. We
23:23
produced our own music. We didn't know
23:24
that you supposed to hire a producer,
23:26
>> right?
23:27
>> So we had to figure we figured out how
23:28
to make beats. Uh, we didn't know that
23:31
you hire a producer, you know, Marley
23:33
Maul, you know?
23:34
>> Yeah.
23:35
>> So on and so forth, you know what I
23:36
mean? So
23:37
>> we we were producers by default. That's
23:39
how we thought all albums were made.
23:41
>> I can't let him leave without telling
23:42
y'all this. I don't know if y'all know
23:43
this. What was what was what was EPMD
23:46
performing off of before you got with
23:47
him?
23:48
>> A real
23:49
>> on live
23:50
>> at the show.
23:52
>> Yeah.
23:52
>> Oh my gosh.
23:54
That's
23:56
[laughter]
23:57
>> explain to folks what a real the real is
23:59
as opposed to turntables that a real to
24:02
real tape you know like like you know it
24:04
look like looks like old movie tapes
24:06
like that. So so they they had uh
24:09
>> their first single was uh it's my thing
24:14
>> they had a DJ and then
24:16
>> something happened with with him.
24:18
>> Uhhuh.
24:19
>> Um second single you guys should chill.
24:22
They had their their next DJ
24:25
and then something happened with him.
24:27
>> Mhm.
24:29
>> So by the time me and Jam Master Jay saw
24:32
EPMD cuz I was touring with Run DMC
24:34
>> before I got with EPMD. So we saw them
24:36
in Europe
24:37
>> and they was on stage with a real real
24:39
and their bodyguard was hitting start
24:41
and stop.
24:42
>> Oh my god. Who run DMC or EPMD? Oh my
24:46
gosh.
24:47
>> So me and J Master J looking like yo
24:49
that [ __ ] is whack. What happened to
24:51
their DJ? You know what I mean?
24:52
Whatever. You know, so fast forward, you
24:55
know, we we you know, I'm on the Run DMC
24:57
tour.
24:57
>> Uhhuh.
24:58
>> All over Europe, Australia, New Zealand,
25:00
Japan. We come home off a tour and a
25:04
week later, Jam Master J called me and
25:06
go, "Yo, you want to go to EPMD show in
25:07
Jersey?" I'm like, "Hell yeah." He picks
25:10
me up, come to the projects, picks me
25:12
up. We go to the show in Jersey, and
25:15
same thing, the DJ, I mean, the the uh
25:17
the bodyguard is hitting start and stop.
25:21
That's Yo, that's so dope.
25:23
>> So they do like strictly [laughter]
25:24
business.
25:25
>> Well, there's a will, there's a way.
25:26
>> They do like strictly business and then
25:27
go to the bodyguard like, "All right,
25:29
stop. Stop it." And then I hit hit play.
25:32
And then he was mess up and hit rewind.
25:35
>> Oh my god.
25:36
>> Then they got a fat for it. Yeah. Like
25:38
it was crazy.
25:40
>> So after the show, Jay was like, "Yo
25:42
man, that real real [ __ ] is whack. Y'all
25:45
should take my man on tour." like he
25:46
just won the the world the new music
25:48
seminar battle for world supremacy
25:51
just toured with us and they was like
25:53
nah Paris was like nah
25:55
>> nah we good on DJs
25:58
>> and I didn't we didn't we didn't
25:59
understand why
26:00
>> he didn't want they didn't want another
26:02
DJ but they had went
26:03
>> they had problems
26:04
>> they had problems so Jay was like look
26:08
>> as a favor for me take him out on the
26:10
road for a week if you don't like him
26:11
you can send him home and they couldn't
26:13
say no to Jay because on the US part of
26:15
that that runs house tour, they let EPMD
26:19
ride on their tour bus cuz they didn't
26:21
have a tour bus at that time. They
26:22
didn't have a budget,
26:23
>> so they had to say yes to at least that,
26:26
you know what I mean? And um J's like,
26:27
"All right,
26:28
>> on, you know, on Tuesday, come, you
26:30
know, meet us at the airport." That's
26:31
back when you can go straight to the
26:32
gate without a ticket.
26:33
>> Right.
26:34
>> Right. [laughter]
26:35
>> Back then?
26:36
>> Yeah.
26:36
>> You remember those days? Yeah. I used to
26:38
get on the plane with a library card.
26:39
You know what I'm saying?
26:41
>> Right.
26:41
>> With my name on it.
26:42
>> So I met them at the gate. So I met him
26:44
at Guad airport at the gate [laughter]
26:46
>> and um so we did the first show. They
26:49
was like so so what you going to do
26:51
that's so special? They like they wasn't
26:54
[ __ ] with me. They was not [ __ ]
26:56
>> both of them or just they was like yo so
26:59
what you going to do that's so special?
27:00
I'm like I'm like in the middle of the
27:01
show just stop the tape cuz they still
27:03
had the tape.
27:04
>> Uhhuh.
27:05
>> I'm like stop the tape in the middle of
27:06
the show. You know I'mma cut [ __ ] up.
27:08
They like no but what what are you going
27:09
to do? I'm like, "All right, I'mma climb
27:12
up on the turntables. I'mma cut with my
27:14
feet. I'mma take my I'mma take my shirt
27:17
off. I'mma strip. I'mma do this, do
27:18
that." And they thought I was being
27:19
sarcastic at that point. They was like,
27:20
"All right, whatever." So, showtime.
27:24
They stopped the tape. They didn't give
27:26
me no introduction or nothing. They was
27:27
just like, "Yeah, yeah, scratch." And
27:30
started shaking hands with the people in
27:32
the front row and all that. And then
27:34
they noticed that the crowd is scream.
27:35
They didn't even listen to what I was
27:37
doing, but they seen the crowd
27:39
screaming, but looking past them. And
27:41
when they turned around, they seen I was
27:43
doing everything that I said.
27:44
>> Shirt off, stand on the table.
27:46
[laughter]
27:47
>> Yeah, THAT'S HOW DJ GET HIM. GET HIM.
27:49
GET HIM. GET HIM.
27:53
>> So after that show,
27:54
>> I don't got to ask you no questions. So
27:56
after that show Yeah. After that show,
27:59
>> it's like, "Yo, so you want to stay?"
28:01
I'm like, "Let me I'll think about it."
28:02
[laughter]
28:04
I WAS LIKE, "HELL YEAH, I'm staying."
28:06
You know what I'm saying? The rest was
28:07
history.
28:07
>> One of the greatest groups of all time,
28:09
EPMD, [applause] man. I love hearing
28:11
that, man.
28:11
>> We got a We We did a We did a new
28:13
record, too.
28:14
>> What?
28:14
>> Yeah.
28:14
>> I was going to ask you.
28:16
>> Yeah, I produced it. Yeah.
28:19
>> There's a new M EPMD album.
28:21
>> No, not this. There's a new EPMD in DJ
28:24
Scratch song.
28:25
>> Song?
28:26
>> Yeah.
28:27
>> Taking Baby Steps.
28:28
>> Taking Baby Steps. But what would it be
28:30
like to get M
28:32
>> both squads back together.
28:35
>> I I think [snorts] it'll happen.
28:37
>> You think is it happening or you think
28:39
it can happen?
28:40
>> It can it can happen. It can happen.
28:42
>> Hit squad, death squad, everybody. They
28:44
they could come
28:45
>> all together. Yeah, I think it can
28:46
happen.
28:47
>> Oo, you hear that, Bobby? You hear that?
28:50
>> I sure,
28:51
>> you know, but it starts it starts at the
28:52
top. So, it got to be it got to be EPMD
28:55
before anything.
28:56
>> Yeah. Yeah, man. So, yeah. Uh, man, you
28:59
heard it here first, man. EPMD on their
29:02
way, man. Bobby, you're a super citizen.
29:04
Thank you, brother. Aaron is on the line
29:06
from Cali. What's on your mind, Aaron?
29:07
>> Aaron.
29:08
>> Yo, what up, Sway? WHAT UP, SWAY? GOOD
29:12
[laughter] MORNING.
29:13
>> YO,
29:14
>> HI. WHAT UP, AARON?
29:17
>> I'm such a big fan, man. It's my first
29:19
time calling Sway. I've been listening
29:21
to you since 1997, man.
29:25
>> Since
29:26
man.
29:27
>> Hey.
29:28
>> Hey. Asia.
29:30
Yes, sir.
29:31
>> Yo, Planet Asia, DJ Scratch, man. Y'all
29:34
are legends, man. Y'all are legends. I
29:36
love I love I love this hip-hop [ __ ]
29:38
man. You guys are doing it. You've been
29:40
doing it. Keep doing it, man. I I love
29:42
it, man. We all love it.
29:44
>> Thank you. Thank you, man. You get the
29:46
album yet?
29:48
>> I just downloaded it as I was driving to
29:50
work, my man.
29:51
>> All right. All right, man. That's That's
29:54
amazing.
29:54
>> I do I do have a question for Planet
29:56
Asia, though. I do have a question for
29:57
Planet Asia. Yes, sir.
30:00
>> On the uh on the How the West Was One
30:03
album,
30:04
>> the the intro skit? [laughter]
30:07
>> Where where the hell did that come from?
30:09
That is the funniest [ __ ] in hip hop
30:11
history. Skits, man.
30:13
>> That's my guy Protest, man. If you ever
30:16
in the airport, you flying JetBlue, go
30:18
to the bar. He right there. He He got a
30:20
book out right now. Fire. [laughter]
30:23
>> Protest.
30:24
>> That is crazy. HE SAID SAD BOY HUFFY
30:27
COMBUFF COMB. [laughter]
30:31
>> You know how it come through. Oh, lick
30:33
it up. [laughter]
30:34
>> Oh, look it up the whiskey.
30:38
>> YO, THAT'S FUNNY AS MY MAN. I LOVED IT,
30:41
MAN. I love that whole album.
30:44
>> Thank you.
30:44
>> Hey, Aaron, check it out. We doing a uh
30:46
wakeup shows during the forest culture
30:48
event December 14th at the Region
30:50
Theater here in LA. We honoring Ken
30:53
Swift. We're honoring Cook King,
30:56
Crooked, Supernatural, Raz Cass, and
30:59
Large Professor. Come out. You can get
31:01
You can get in free. All you got to do
31:02
is get a t-shirt at swaysuniverse.com.
31:04
Buy one of those t-shirts. We going to
31:06
let the first 500 people in for free if
31:08
you wear that t-shirt.
31:09
>> All right. Remember?
31:11
>> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm already on it.
31:12
Sway. I got to go to the website and get
31:14
them t-shirts, brother.
31:15
>> Get that t-shirt.
31:16
>> Get that, brother. Suedesuniverse.com.
31:18
You should have said that.
31:19
>> That was a great battle. Uh,
31:21
Supernatural. Shout out to Super
31:23
>> and he's he's amazing. Um, and we're
31:27
honored to be honoring
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>> all of these people. Planet Asia is one
31:30
of these people who will be honored
31:32
>> at some point with this for the culture
31:34
series. Uh, cuz you guys are in the DNA
31:37
of our legacy as well as we are in
31:39
yours,
31:40
>> right? Um, one of the things you say I
31:43
think in knowledge is power.
31:45
>> Um, the interlude scratch, you talk
31:47
about the importance of being in tune
31:49
with your fans, right? And you talk
31:51
about knowing data and and emailing and
31:54
all of those different things. And are
31:57
fans able to cash app you guys money for
32:00
the project? Is it something? Talk about
32:01
that. Yo, it's like right now um
32:05
>> even on like let's say you're you're an
32:07
artist
32:08
>> and you have title
32:10
>> and Spotify title and Spotify right now
32:13
allows you to set set up your cash app
32:16
right on the homepage
32:18
>> so fans want to support you. So they
32:20
could just directly support you.
32:22
>> Yes.
32:23
>> Oh, that's amazing.
32:24
>> Title started it first.
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>> Uhhuh.
32:26
>> Shout shout out to Jay-Z. He he started
32:29
it first
32:29
>> because he he understands that,
32:32
>> you know, these streaming these streams
32:33
ain't no money. You know what I'm
32:34
saying?
32:35
>> Yeah.
32:35
>> So
32:36
>> he he put it where people can actually
32:39
support the artist directly. Mhm.
32:41
>> So he set up that that had that uh cash
32:44
app
32:46
>> option set up right on the homepage of
32:48
uh of title
32:50
>> and then Spotify later followed and did
32:52
it as well.
32:54
>> Salute to that man. And I don't know
32:55
Rock Nation got a new distribution
32:57
platform that absolutely that they're
32:59
bringing front and center. And I say
33:00
this because when you see Salt and
33:02
Pepper
33:03
>> at the Rock and Roll indu induction
33:06
>> Yeah.
33:08
Talk about the fact that still to this
33:10
day they're fighting to get the rights
33:11
to their own music.
33:13
>> That's crazy,
33:14
>> right? You know, and I know you talked
33:16
about how streaming has been a detriment
33:18
to the to the
33:20
>> art of this industry.
33:22
>> That's a shame. De La Soul, we're going
33:24
to see them tonight. Yeah.
33:25
>> You know, you know, they came on the
33:26
show when we first revealed that they
33:28
couldn't get rights to their own music.
33:31
>> Yes.
33:32
>> That's an option, right? Um,
33:34
congratulations to you all on this
33:36
project, man. Give it up for DJ Scratch.
33:38
>> It's available now. Kings Dominion.
33:41
>> Sounds good.
33:42
>> Give it up for my brother Planet Asia.
33:44
>> Um, I know you got a show tonight,
33:46
right?
33:47
>> At the at the wheel turn.
33:48
>> At the Wheelturn. And that's going to be
33:50
with
33:53
>> Iron Rick [laughter] and Mob D.
33:57
>> And congratulations to them. Um because
34:00
these guys, Cuban Links, um the infamous
34:02
albums, these these are legendary
34:05
projects. What's it like for you
34:07
performing with them,
34:08
>> man? It's it's like it's like you back
34:10
in 1995, man.
34:12
>> And they're celebrating the 30th
34:13
anniversary of both of the albums. Yeah.
34:15
>> The Purple Tape, Cuban Links,
34:18
>> and the Infamous.
34:19
>> The show is crazy. It's like a mixtape.
34:21
>> It's like if you had a mixtape between
34:23
Cuban Link and the Infamous Well, Cuban
34:25
Link and Mob D.
34:26
>> Yeah.
34:27
>> Well, yeah. a lot of Rayquan joints.
34:28
Let's just say Rayquin just because he
34:30
not just only doing Cuban link joints,
34:31
but like imagine just like a mixtape, a
34:33
fly mixtape of Rayquin and Mob Deep.
34:36
>> Yeah.
34:36
>> Because it's like at some point of the
34:38
show I forget
34:40
>> that we on the same song. I mean that
34:42
it's not the same song. You go for one,
34:44
it'll go from one Rayquin verse and
34:46
it'll have the same BPM. I'm like, "Oh
34:48
[ __ ] I never realized them joints go
34:50
together like that."
34:51
>> Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm I'm curating it
34:52
like like a like if I'm doing a tribute
34:55
mix, but the artists are actually there
34:56
to perform it.
34:57
>> It's crazy. If you haven't seen it, you
34:59
got to see cuz you know you we've been
35:01
to a bunch of Wu Tang shows throughout
35:03
the years. This one is different.
35:05
>> It's different.
35:06
>> I don't know if you seen the uh when we
35:08
did the Hit Squad reunion tour back in
35:10
like 2016 maybe.
35:12
>> That's so insulting.
35:14
>> [laughter]
35:15
>> Do you remember how
35:17
how like I I like I had like word play,
35:21
you know what I mean? So,
35:22
>> um and I didn't want to do the typical
35:24
each artist go do their own individual
35:27
sets. I wanted everybody to go on
35:28
together. So, so like for example, I had
35:30
um
35:31
>> do Effects on stage doing microphone
35:33
checkup.
35:34
>> So, as they're doing that, when they got
35:35
to the last chorus,
35:37
>> I was blending in Red Man's Tonight's
35:39
Tonight.
35:39
>> Yeah. So you hear it blending in and as
35:42
it's blending in, Red Man is coming out
35:44
on stage and the first words he say is
35:47
microphone checker.
35:49
>> Oh my took a deep Come on, man.
35:51
[laughter]
35:52
>> You can't fake that. You got to be that
35:55
in order to do that.
35:56
>> Hip-hop. It's called hip hop,
35:57
>> man. Get him a round of applause, man.
36:00
>> Not no CDJ.
36:01
>> King Dominion.
36:03
>> Kings Dominion. Um, [cheering]
36:07
I kind of want to play you all know
36:09
again. Is that all right?
36:10
>> Yeah, man.
36:11
>> We going we going to end with that
36:12
banging.
36:12
>> Let's end with that.
36:13
>> Let's get it.
36:14
>> That [ __ ] go hard.
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>> Love y'all, man.
36:16
>> I love y'all, too, man. Thank you for
36:17
coming by. I thank you for getting up.
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