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ladies and gentlemen it's an honor it's
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an honor to have this elite
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top boxer on bridge business courtesy of
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sway in the morning have the bees in the
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background in case you didn't know
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the hb she gave she gave some space for
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my partner in bridge business to sit and
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have this conversation with this amazing
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boxer this amazing all-around individual
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first time i met him was in las vegas
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and we got a chance to hang out chop it
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up he was so approachable man it kind of
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blew me away i was a fan of his before a
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lot of people even knew what he was
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capable of he only got one loss on his
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record and that's against manny pacquiao
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and like i said earlier i'm not even
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sure if it's a loss there's a lot of
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talk in the welterweight division horse
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you know about who the true champion is
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is it errol spence jr is it
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thurman you know who is it is it is it
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is it uh is it crawford crawford is it
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you know it's all these names that's
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being thrown in the hat but i don't
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think they speak in his name loud enough
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the one and only keith one time thurman
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is here on bridge business
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yeah yeah yeah yeah what up sway what up
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boys
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please peace peace one time man hey
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listen man it's it's great to see you
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out and about now you know it's you know
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and getting ready you know to really you
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know buckle down for this fight you know
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barrios is somebody that a lot of people
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may not know but to do was an undefeated
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fighter before he ran into big tank you
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know and uh he took that l from tank and
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it was in the lighter weight division
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and so coming into this fight people you
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know i already put best on you that she
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was going to tk oh
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in some round probably in the middle
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rounds of the fight a lot of folks
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thinking is this a warm-up fight is this
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a warm-up fight
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you know
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when i get back there's just so much
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high expectations everybody who really
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understands who keith thurman is knows
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that i'm a lead an elite fighter so if
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they don't see me in with the best of
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the best they're always going to look at
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it as some kind of warm-up tune-up
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whatever but
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you know
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even if it is a warm-up for me
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in in some kind of fashion because i'm
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getting back after two and a half years
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you know barrios like you said only has
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one loss he was he was recently an
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undefeated champion you know and the
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other the other names they were trying
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to get me were people with like four l's
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on their record man and i was like you
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know i it just didn't satisfy the
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warrior spirit in me uh and i don't want
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my tune-up to really feel like a tune-up
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and so
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uh i just think this is a great fight
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and you know i just want to do my best
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showcase my skills and talent once again
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of course we would like to uh get that
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tko early mid whatever uh but you know
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this boy is coming like me we're both
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coming off of losses which means you got
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to go back and you got to sharpen up
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that tool you got to sharpen up that
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knife and we don't know man he might be
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coming out a little sharper he might be
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coming out a little prettier i know i am
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hey keith you being an a-side fighter
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why would you pick uh borrows instead of
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going for you guys to get your wba back
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why didn't you try to seal one of those
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fights with one of the champions instead
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of taking a guy that's moving up in
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weight moving from 140 to 147 why would
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you take that fight instead of trying to
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get that wba belt back
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well first off we take we take the
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things that are on the table and like i
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said man none of the champions were on
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the table after a two and a half year um
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layoff we got to get some momentum we
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got to remind the people who keith
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thurman is what he brings to the table
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of course that last fight when i was
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last here in vegas right now we're at
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mandalay bay we were at mgm grand it was
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pacquiao it was electric it was a night
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that i i will never forget okay but
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we're just trying to have another great
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exciting night of boxing i'm here to
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excite the people remind the people and
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excite the people what keith thurman
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brings to the table that i'm living a
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dream i step in the ring wearing red
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white and blue because boxing's my
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all-american dream come true and i'm
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just trying to represent for my team for
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my people for my city back at home
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everybody was going to be tuning in and
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and just bring excitement back to the
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walter weight division man there's great
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fights out there but you put thurman in
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the mix and i believe i make it better
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man i don't know if it's that southern
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blood in me but i bring some sugar some
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spice and everything nice to the ring oh
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you heard me you heard him he got bars
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we got to have he come spit some bars on
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sway in the morning hey man um i want to
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say after the garcia fight if i'm not
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mistaken in in about the time you
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started dating your now wife
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um we start seeing you go through a
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personal transformation i saw you
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traveling the world you know it seemed
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like you
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i don't know if you started practicing
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different philosophy on life you know i
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it just seemed like you became a more
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centered person you know then you became
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a father congratulations on your kid you
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know what what happened in that time
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period you got married what happened to
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you what was going on
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man i mean a lot was going on sway i
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mean right after the danny garcia fight
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uh i went to tokyo i proposed to my wife
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i came back to new york i i went and got
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uh my bone spur surgery uh in my right
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elbow in in new york there so
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after that uh i went to kathmandu and
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got married and i was recovering from
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elbow surgery at the time i spent four
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and a half months with with my beautiful
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wife and her beautiful country nepal
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and uh you know like you said man i've
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traveled i've seen a lot of things but
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it's just time man uh in time i just
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look at it as
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the book of life and you hit new
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chapters man i know i know you know
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you're overhead than me and so i know
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you know what i'm talking about man you
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just hit new chapters um that young
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blood you know i know it's pumping in me
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but it's not sustainable it's not the
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same
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uh i'm just evolving man now i'm a
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father i've seen so much growth in my
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own daughter in nine months you know
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anybody who's who who is a father uh
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they can relate man father mothers
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everywhere they can relate there's so
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much growth happening in a short amount
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of time
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and it just inspires me to grow as a man
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and as an individual uh to be to be the
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best provider i can be
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and um overall man it's always different
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i've always had a eastern philosophy
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within me uh when i was real young and
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the the philosopher in me who who was
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studying philosophy and world religions
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i called myself um
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a buddhist christian hindu
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and uh
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and
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a self-proclaimed philosopher you know
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so i've always you know ever since you
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met me that was always in my mind i
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always try to think a little bit outside
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of the box but the one thing about those
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that teaching that buddhist teachings
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the more you
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just go through life
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the deeper it hits you it's almost like
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it's like marinating on the truth the
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the more you the more you put that rub
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or anything on your chicken man and you
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let it sit it's just gonna go deeper and
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deeper and deeper and and that's just my
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life man i've seen so much i've grown so
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much i've experienced that lost at first
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lost as a as an athlete as an elite
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fighter as a true champion as a true
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warrior and like you were saying ain't a
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real loss i don't even call it an l i
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called a b l a barely lost you know but
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at the end of the day once you got that
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l it's an l someway somehow and really
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there's only two things in life
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there's lessons and there's blessings
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you know uh so you just gotta you gotta
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understand the lessons that god has
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given you that the spirit the universe
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um your neighbor your friends your
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enemies your frenemies whatever lessons
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you're getting in life you got to
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download them take them digest them it
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might hurt the stomach for a little bit
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but you get through the
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and you let it out you know what i mean
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you let that out you know and you get
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through it you digest it and you keep
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moving forward man because until you get
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through until you get through the mud
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and you get through all that that muck
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you know i mean
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it's cleaner on the other side man and
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and we can all have brighter days you
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know we have our ups or downs or
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depression i was i was hella depressed
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after the pacquiao fight i was like oh i
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was depressed i had to go get hand
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surgery
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and i was depressed about that i was
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depressed about the loss i was depressed
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about um
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um not living up to the legacy of my
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original trainer ben getty keith
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thurman's a fighter
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who is supposed to beat the veteran i
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was raised i was i was raised like a pit
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bull i was raised in this fight game you
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put me in with an old dog i'm supposed
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to latch onto his neck and not let go
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you know yeah so
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the fact that i don't buy them like what
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was it like
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because the second half of the fight you
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clearly won but what was it were you
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overwhelmed by pacquiao was he that
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complex as a boxer what was it
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nah my head wasn't right man my long
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story short my head wasn't right um
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my my weight management wasn't right
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that year uh i knew i was fighting
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injured so
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my
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i didn't create a
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a legitimate
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plot of a strategy if i would have been
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an honest warrior and said look you got
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one good hand to beat pacquiao up with
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let's double down these right hands like
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you've never done before
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um i think i could have done a little
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bit more in that fight i was in left
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hook position and i didn't let my left
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hook go because in training camp every
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time i was hitting my sparring partners
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i was hurting myself
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you know so
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it's a lot of times i take the pain and
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i put it in the back of my mind
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but for the first time
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my injury was at the forefront of my
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mind and um there were just
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there was just one too many obstacles
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there was there was so many different
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variables that ended up causing that
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that hiccup but um
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at the end of the day man i'm growing
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from all those minor mistakes that i
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made back in 2019 i'm looking forward to
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getting back on the ball um like dead
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prez said back on my workout back on my
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regimen you know and uh
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you know the workout album i know you
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know what i'm talking about come on man
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and at the end of the day man you know
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i've been grinding to it i've been
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grinding to it all camp baby you know uh
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that's where my head's at and uh and i
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love boxing i love the sport you know
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when i was an amateur i was a seven-time
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national champion i didn't show up to
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seven national tournaments you know you
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win some you lose some but i went home
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with a lot of trophies i went home with
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a lot of um a lot of w's so at the end
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of the day i just want to get back on my
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grind and uh and showcase my skills and
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talent and get right back to the top
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where i know i belong
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hmm
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sherman
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hey keith
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how hard was this camp for you was this
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your hardest camp that you think since
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as a professional just your hardest camp
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because you're healed and making 147 you
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haven't been in the ring for a few years
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is it hard to make that weight at 147
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because i know you walk around
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comfortably at 150 something easily like
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you know what i mean so is it hard to
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make this weight
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i'll be that tomorrow you know what i
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mean should we walk around we start camp
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at 172 we started the pacquiao camp at
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182 so that's what i'm talking about as
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as
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some dilemmas some obstacles that i put
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in my own way uh back in 2019 so um
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from here on now now that i'm 33 years
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old we got to stop this yo-yo approach
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you know we got to stop that i got a
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great team we're going to get real
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focused this year and work on weight
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management after this fight we want to
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maintain 165.
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um
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but but yeah man this for me it's hard
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to say if this is really been the
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hardest camp uh it's been a long camp um
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my diet has been
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like non-stop you know we cutting out
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salts we're cutting out sugar you know
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uh if i taste anything a little sweet
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it's hitting me hard if i taste anything
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a little salty it's hitting me hard
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because my taste buds have changed and
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adapt
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uh in this camp uh i feel great my body
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feels great great i know that i've
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really cleansed myself very well um so
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i'm loving that feeling i'm loving that
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sensation i know i'm in sin city so
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after the fight you know i'm gonna get
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i'm gonna grub down on a few desserts
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maybe have some cheesecake you know but
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eventually we're gonna have to get right
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back on that regimen and and clean up
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this vessel man uh
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like i said earlier about about the
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truth
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hitting you harder harder and sinking
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into the mind as you get older just a
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little deeper and deeper the body is the
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vessel you know uh it doesn't take
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science it doesn't take rocket science
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um it's really common sense you know
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uh whether you have the philosophy that
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you are this body you are this avatar or
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you're beyond your your uh
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uh
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you know your spirit being inhabiting a
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physical life however you want to look
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at it one way or another man
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this body
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you are it or you inhabit it so no
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matter what
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like you got to deal with it and what
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you put in it is what you're going to
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get out of it you know uh mental health
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i heard sway earlier talking to the
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people talk about mental health a big
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part of mental health is what you put in
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your body man all that grease oil fried
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chicken getting into your arteries in
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your bloodstream you know all the all
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those toxins
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all that uh
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all the start the sugar
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the sugar uh the alcohol you know um all
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the substance abuse all the
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pharmaceuticals you know it's so you
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know a lot of diabetics out there i got
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diabetes in my family you know um but
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it's not really healing us uh as much as
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it's hurting us you know uh you know so
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people gotta do their research you know
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um
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incorporate more of a holistic approach
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to wellness get on that little bit of dr
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saby tip if they got the time little
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things at a time man you know
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meat no meat it is what it is um i think
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a well-balanced diet is the most
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important and just whatever makes your
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body feel great figure out what makes
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you feel great man and uh i believe that
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i'm that i feel great right now i'm
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working towards my greatness um i
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i pray towards my greater self in the
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future i want to see him i believe in
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him uh okay
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and that's and that's what i want to
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manifest uh this year so that's like i
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said man i'm just i got my head on man i
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got my head on in a different vision
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good man i like i like your hoodie too
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we got to get you some bridge business
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hoodies look i want to say who we got on
14:49
we got keith one time thurman on the
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line with us he's fighting him big fight
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for him big fight for guardio who is
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fighting this saturday on pay-per-view
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on fox sports make sure you check it out
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we got a lot of people who want to talk
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with you i'm open up the phone line 888
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742-3345
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so call up you want to talk directly to
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keith thurman drippy dreams on the line
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from long island drippy dre what up
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what up what up what up what up
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what's going on
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mr thurman
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you got brothers doing today man
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great
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my
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my my question for you is the the real
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thing was i've seen when you got married
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and your temperature changed to uh
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married when you were earl spence was
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having a little debate and topical
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things was gone you married him through
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car crash is there any contentious thing
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that you would like to work up to
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building to this fight in the near
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future for yourself
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look man
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uh spence has been on my radar for a
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long time
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uh i knew it would be a great fight in
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the future he calls himself the truth so
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you the truth you're gonna be here for a
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minute baby and there ain't none to rush
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you know uh the whole plan was to get
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past pacquiao and in 2019 and most
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likely fight spence in 2020 it was
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supposed to be an epic year it's
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supposed to be an olympic year i wanted
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it to be um a unification bout year uh
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and those things didn't manifest for me
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because that was on my end that was my
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mistake you know so i just got to get
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back on my grind uh and hopefully we can
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make that fight happen later on this
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year whether it's this summer whether
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it's uh back later before the year
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clocks off in december whenever the man
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really wants to get it in um you know
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i'm taking on all challenges
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you know it's thurman versus the world
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right now that's the way i see it
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thurman versus the world thurman versus
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a body you know
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that's that thing
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a key
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you have a lot of fighters that's coming
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at you man from 140 pounds and they're
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moving up to 147 and they first stop is
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that keith thurman i heard josh taylor
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mentioned about moving up um tank davis
16:59
talk about moving up and their first
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fight is you know they want to fight
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keith thurman do you feel like you're
17:03
the gatekeeper now that 147 so if you
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get past keith thurman you next up in
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line
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i mean it ain't as much as a gatekeeper
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as just being
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keith thurman it's just being a bad man
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you know um highly respected highly
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admired uh you know
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um loved you know people know that i get
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loved man i get hate i get hate just
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because of my inactivity anybody who
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hates thurman and just because
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they boxing they boxing fanatics and i
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ain't giving them their fix when when
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thurman gives them their fix you know
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all sudden they love me they hop right
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back on the train but if i ain't if i
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ain't chugging if i ain't pushing along
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they quick to hop off man uh but they
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know that if they get past thurman it's
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called instant recognition you know what
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i mean so uh they they see they see the
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badges they see the stripes they know
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what i walk around with and they want to
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be able to claim that they got through a
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fighter like me uh so that they can call
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out whoever's next on their radar in the
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walter weight division and have validity
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in it you get past thurman
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call out whoever you want
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it's that simple you know so um
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so i just look at it as a little bit of
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a golden ticket uh
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and that's why people you know they
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calling out my name they they talking
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about me that means at the end of the
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day they respect me even if they think
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they can beat me that might be a little
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disrespectful
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but ultimately they looking at me
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because they they know what i do and
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they want to move up and they want to
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make a name for themselves so they can't
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just make a name stepping into the
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division they want to get past keith
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thurman and make a name
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