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Anthony Mackie on Producing and Starring in New Netflix Film 'Outside The Wire' | SWAY’S UNIVERSE
Jan 14, 2021
Anthony Mackie tests the producer role with his latest movie "Outside The Wire" which he also stars in. The movie is set in the near future, where a drone pilot is sent into a war zone and finds himself paired up with a top-secret android officer on a mission to stop a nuclear attack.
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times you got to get dirty to see any
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real change
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welcome to the war kid ladies and
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gentlemen
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ladies and gp do the honors it's the
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first time this year make it good
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[Applause]
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[Laughter]
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wow well i i have to start off you know
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every time he comes on our show we have
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to always
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acknowledge that he made his film debut
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as papadoc battling the guy who runs
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this channel
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eminem in eight mile uh he's been in so
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many films one of my favorites from last
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year
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was the banker we had nia long come by
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and talk about that film
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um he's been in so many films i i'll be
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here all day if i was to go over his
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entire filmography but
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uh another thing that i think we need to
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bring up is that uh the head of marvel
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kevin feige said that there
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may be a possibility that some of the
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marvel tv shows could come back so you
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might want to holler at him after the
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interview to see if he can get
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some word into kevin's ear about uh
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bringing luke cage back so you can do
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some more cameo sway
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yeah and um last but not least i have to
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uh acknowledge
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uh chadwick boseman because we lost him
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last year that was one of the
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biggest losses that uh the world
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suffered last year and
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i bring that up because anthony starred
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in the 2003
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broadway revival of maharani's black
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bottom
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they turned that film into a they turned
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that play into a film last year
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which happens to be chadwick's final
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film role
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and as we know anthony and chadwick
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shared time uh in the marvel cinematic
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universe
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and uh it's great to have him back here
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he's playing a super soldier by the name
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of captain leo in this new film for
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netflix
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please welcome him back anthony mackey
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anthony mackey
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man that intro was big baby
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[Laughter]
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yo we we oh geez now man we have resumes
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your intro has gotten so much longer
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since you first start coming on the show
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i was just noticing that like i'm
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looking at my clock like damn we only
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got them for a few minutes
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listen living legend status we could do
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that all day man
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uh man appreciate it absolutely man
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if you if you don't mind aunt because i
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want to get into everything but
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when db brought up chadwick um it just
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kind of
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yeah that's this is true you guys
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probably have so many
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similarities in your journeys being
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young black men coming up in hollywood
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what was your relationship like with
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chadwick if you don't mind what can what
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can you share with us something that you
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discovered about him
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that folks may not know um you know it's
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it's
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funny you asked that and um chadwick and
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i had a very similar
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uh background as far as being country
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boys from the south
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as far as making our way out of not the
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best uh neighborhood situation but a
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strong
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family background and also
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chadwick a lot of people don't talk
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about it was a trained actor i mean he
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went to howard
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like he studied abroad he knew theater
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he was a director he was a writer
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i met chad in 1999
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1998 uh at howard uh and we have been
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friends ever since
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so you know people always come up to me
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and ask me for advice like yo how do i
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get on how do i
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you know how do i become an actor you
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know i trained for 11 years before i had
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my first job
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you know and chadwick trained just as
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long
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before you know anybody ever knew his
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name
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you know so we have to we always talk
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about young black men and what we want
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for them and how we look at them and
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this and that
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look at the amount of time man hours and
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education that went into making
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that great actor and human being known
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as chadwick bozeman
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and appreciate that because when we talk
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about doing it the right way
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he did it the right way and nobody
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acknowledges that
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dude was an amazing human being he was a
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philanthropist
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and he was educated more than you could
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imagine so you know his level of talent
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and belief
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surpasses what you what what we knew of
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him
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his level of talent and education
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surpassed that by far
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wow thank you anthony mackie man anthony
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mackie and i and i can see the
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similarities in
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in many ways on and off the screen
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because you both were activists
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in in your own right and you know you
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you
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never held your tongue to speak about
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what you felt
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what you feel is right you know and he
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was the same way
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and i want to thank you for using your
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platform to get so many people
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registered to vote during the elections
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and i want to see if you could talk
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about the inspiration behind the
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i am a man which is the only post you
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have on your instagram
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and the only account that you're
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following can you can you talk about
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that
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and why um well
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last year i had a movie come out called
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the banker on apple tv and we did the
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premiere
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um in uh tennessee at the civil rights
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museum at the lorraine hotel where
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martin luther king was assassinated
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and uh when if you haven't been i feel
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like
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if you're a african-american not a not
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african-american if you're a descendant
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of a slave in
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in america the lorraine hotel is our
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mecca
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it's our beauty breeding ground of
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greatness it's our
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home and i didn't realize if you have
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kids
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you know frank like you take them there
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it's a wildly it was a wildly emotional
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experience and i stood in a spot
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in the room where martin luther king
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took his last breaths and where he was
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assassinated on that balcony and dude
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the amount of emotion that came over me
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i was
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heartbroken i was um i was but i was
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also elated by the joy
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knowing that you know this dude for
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everything that he did for us i'm a
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living testament of the work that he put
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in him
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and and basically gave his life for um
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and we walked through and there's a
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great museum
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a wonderful museum and i see the uh i am
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a man
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uh plaquettes from the civil rights um
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from the civil rights march
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where the sanitation workers come back
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to new orleans and
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george floyd is killed and i'm sitting
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here and i'm looking at my four sons
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and you know my friend asked me asked me
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a simple question he was like if it was
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one of your boys what would you do
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and uh when i had the thought of what i
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would do if that was one of my sons
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i realized i had to do something and me
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being in movies me being a celebrity my
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voice is not as important
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as the average everyday man so i wanted
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to do something where i could just step
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back and allow people
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and give them a platform to speak for
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themselves so
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me and a group of my friends got
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together and started i'm a man dot vote
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we registered
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uh over 40 000 men uh and young women
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um and not only of color we have white
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people latino people asian people
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and you know our most powerful weapon
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is our voice our ability to vote and a
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lot of people take it for granted and a
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lot of people think because they're
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felons they can't vote that's not true
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you know there are many different levels
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of being a fellow and there's many
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different places
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in america where felons are allowed to
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vote so never let anyone suppress your
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voice
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you have a voice and you use it stop
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sitting down and talking and tweeting
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and instagram
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get up and do something and i realized
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you know
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we've lost our ability to stand up on
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our own too
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and and do our work because we're thumb
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thugging
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and i didn't want a thumb thug no more i
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wanted to get up and do something have
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people see me and touch me and see me do
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something
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yeah anthony mackie man you know mr
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anthony mackey we know rich nice
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i'ma go ahead and keep going because
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you you you really bout this because
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let me tell you why you can say things
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you could post things and everything
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has a a reaction to it and i
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i thought you were very courageous and
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brave i know this is an old story but we
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haven't talked and being a part of the
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mcu
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um i thought it was very brave when you
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spoke and i'm paraphrasing you could
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correct me when you when we talked about
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when talking about the black panther
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movie you thought it was good but you
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felt that mcu could do better when it
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came to diversity
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and people up up you know it was people
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were in the uproar
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that you said that and you wouldn't
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clarify that you know nah you
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you want you love the company you think
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they're a great company but every
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company could do better in this country
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when it comes to diversity i saw the
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russo brothers even commented
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on it and said they agree with you they
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think you're a a
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great actor a great person all around
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and every company could do better
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when you said that it kind of exploded
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what kind of reaction did you get from
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marvel
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if you if you could speak to that um
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you know it's it's interesting i um i
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we talked and it marvel was very
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open and uh understanding of what i said
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and agreed
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and realized that you know it's hard
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when you have a table of
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you know men that get together to make
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decisions
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for people who they don't look like and
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they don't live like
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and they don't know so for them to
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acknowledge that
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i felt was a huge moment you know for
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marvel and disney knowing all their zoom
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calls
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for white men between the ages of 35 and
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70.
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and it's not correct for them to speak
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on the place or the situation of
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black men and women or latino men and
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women but to have some
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get somebody in the room who can advise
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them on what's the best
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move for them which is uh which is
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you know that's a huge uh moment of
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recognition so
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it's great to it was great to see that
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they heard me
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and now moving forward you know we have
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the ability
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to uh diversify our sets diversifies
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our crews uh diversif diversify our
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leaders
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so it's been a it's been a wake-up call
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for a lot of companies
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uh and marvel didn't take what i said
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like lightly
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and kevin feige appreciated and agreed
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with it
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okay there it is man but you know i like
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that anthony mackie is here uh big round
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of applause
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tracy i'm gonna let you jump in man i
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want to just keep hitting that over the
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head with these i miss them
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[Laughter]
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we ain't talked in a minute brother
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we all do we all do aunt i'm telling you
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it's so good to hear your voice as well
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my dude this is
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motivation mondays and just the strength
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and everything you say the integrity is
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so
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palpable so i always appreciate our
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conversations i want to jump a bit into
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outside the wire because you play a
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cyborg you know
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um an android and it makes me always
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just
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think about the future and
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i hope that we create more meaningful
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technology
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you know what i mean even in in 2020 the
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way that you spoke a little bit about
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you know the
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um don't want to be a thumb thug you
11:04
know what i'm saying and twitter
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and instagram and obviously there's pros
11:08
and cons to
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everything and i also just sometimes
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fear about
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humans becoming too dependent on
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um convenience you know what i'm saying
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and so i'm curious for you aunt can you
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speak about
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what your favorite piece of technology
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is
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even if it's a throwback to the basics
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but then also
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what a piece yeah it could be a pair of
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scissors that's a form of technology
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but also on technology you think we are
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better
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off without
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that's hilarious um my favorite uh
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piece of technology that i have now is i
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got an
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old school like radio raheem boombox but
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it's bluetooth
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oh
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it's the only thing in my house that
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takes deep batteries
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so you know when i'm out like when i go
12:12
fishing i'm out on the boat or like me
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and my dudes do our social distance and
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walks or whatever
12:17
we're afraid of walking like with radio
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raheem with the boombox joint right
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oh my god we kill that you do not want
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to see
12:25
four middle-aged black dudes with cigars
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walking with a boom box down to buy you
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in new orleans that's me
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actually i do shut it down
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[Laughter]
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you want to see that yes that's stellar
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that's a scene that's a movie scene
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right there
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[Laughter]
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a lot of timberlands in hot weather you
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sure you want to see that exactly
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yeah that's good okay and what about the
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flip side
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the the flip side is my uh my cell phone
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like i you know i don't do social media
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you know
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i don't do all that stuff uh internet
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stuff or
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calling and facing and all that joint
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but it's like sometimes
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it makes sense to just put your phone
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down and be quiet with yourself
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like for new year's i went on a uh a
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retreat
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like a mental wellness retreat uh in
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mexico
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and literally no phones no emails no
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nothing just
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seven days of just quiet you know and
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you really learn a lot about yourself
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when you shut the world
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out you know and uh 2020 was a hell of a
13:42
year man i lost
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a lot of people um and and lost a lot of
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just and not even just with with death i
13:49
just lost a lot of people
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mentally you know like i just i saw how
13:54
a lot of people i was around didn't
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deserve my time
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like i can't fool with weak-minded
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people who don't get the situation that
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we're in
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as a culture as a humanity as a society
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so i just lost a lot of people in my
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life
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and um really re-engaged and focused
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on my family you know focused you know
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on my kids and
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looking at the world around me like
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trying not to kill my neighbors you know
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and
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[Laughter]
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that's real you know i just i had to i
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had to put my phone down and just work
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on myself for a minute
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you know and i just that cell phone man
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it's a dangerous drug
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you know you have young beautiful women
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you know destroying themselves because
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they want to look like somebody on
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instagram but you don't understand what
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went into
14:39
what soul purging went into that woman
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on instagram being
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like that like if you look at felicia
14:45
rashad you look at these women
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they're they're matriarchs in our
14:48
society sicily tyson there are women
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that
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age gracefully and beautifully that we
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admire
14:54
you know and and and you're looking at
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this
14:57
chick you know because somebody bought
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her a car or a bag
15:01
like that you're more beautiful than
15:03
that you know you're worth more than a
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bag and all that comes from your phone
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man
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phone hey uh hey anthony um i was just
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wondering about
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um you know before covet hit and all the
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theaters got shut down
15:18
most people would look at box office
15:19
numbers in terms of measuring a film's
15:22
success right um now because
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of things extending way longer than
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anybody really anticipated
15:30
all of these studios are looking at
15:31
streaming as sort of the future because
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nobody knows
15:34
what's going to happen with the theater
15:36
industry can you sort of give some
15:39
context or maybe break down how
15:41
streaming
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success is compared to box office where
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you're talking about oh this film opened
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at number one with x amount of dollars
15:49
but now you're talking about streaming
15:51
numbers like how
15:51
how is the success measured in terms of
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streaming um
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well everybody knew streaming was the
15:57
future um if you
15:59
uh kovic just sped up the process
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because now
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you know you have a i have a 85 inch
16:04
television with my in my living room
16:05
with a surround sound system i don't
16:07
need to go to the movies and deal with
16:08
some
16:09
kids trying to make out behind me you
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know what i mean like
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you know i don't have to do that because
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i got a crazy tv i have a tv in my
16:16
living room that's bigger than my head
16:17
you know
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so everybody knew streaming was the
16:21
future
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you know but kovid sped it up to a point
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to where now
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it always used to be about that opening
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weekend if you had an opening weekend
16:30
that crushed and made you know the
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budget
16:32
twice the budget this that in the third
16:34
you know it was considered a success you
16:36
were considered a success
16:38
but now it's all about them clicks you
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know you
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you literally need to have people sit on
16:44
their couch
16:45
and click and you know uh
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black people don't realize the power
16:49
that we have in all of these industries
16:52
like we are netflix's largest
16:55
subscribing base
16:57
so if we don't click it don't move
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you know what i mean say that louder man
17:05
if we don't click
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yeah don't move that's the reality of it
17:09
that's if we don't click it don't move
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so that's the that's the reality of it
17:13
so you know
17:14
with this movie outside the wire that's
17:16
coming on netflix it's like
17:19
you know netflix made that movie to
17:21
appease their their audience their fan
17:23
base there are a lot of people
17:24
that look like me that know me that want
17:26
to see me so you make a movie with me so
17:28
people will click it
17:29
the more people click it the more money
17:31
they make the only difference between
17:34
you know streaming and and to be honest
17:36
with you or keep it 100 the only
17:37
difference between streaming and movie
17:38
theaters
17:39
is uh is back in it's ancillary income
17:42
so when a movie go to movie theaters
17:44
that when they come on dvd
17:46
every time you buy a dvd or you watch it
17:48
on television like
17:49
right now i still get checks for eight
17:51
mile because it comes on vh1
17:53
and mtv every day wow
17:56
so that that income you know those
17:59
residuals
18:00
those residuals are cut off with
18:01
streaming because when streaming buys it
18:04
they own it so you don't get those
18:06
streaming residuals for a lifetime
18:09
once you're done you're done your checks
18:11
are done
18:12
and that's a way for the studio to keep
18:14
their pocket fat but also
18:16
you know get the actors you know
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involved
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so that's the only difference whereas
18:21
when movies movie theaters
18:23
that movie come out and hit a number you
18:25
get a second check
18:27
so those checks you them checks keep
18:29
rolling dog when it's in the movie
18:31
theater
18:32
profit sharing is what my friends call
18:35
it in new york
18:36
uh-huh it's profit sharing ain't no
18:39
profit sharing with netflix
18:44
[Music]
18:48
but you got to obligate yourself to
18:50
promote it though right that's part of
18:52
the deal
18:53
well always i mean you do the business
18:56
because you want people to see it if
18:57
people don't know about it they can't
18:58
see it so you got to promote it
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you know it's it's not like oh i'm doing
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this in spite of myself
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no i got a product i'm pushing my
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product just like you sway you got a
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product
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you push your product every day every
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day
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anthony mackie you're the biggest deal
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on the block come on man
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they call them hey they call me the plug
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there you go man anthony mackey is here
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uh rich knights you hunk out on the
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phone man uh
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you know i got to let you get in rich
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you've been very patient
19:36
and so rich nice has he's been he's been
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really
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crafting this question for you and we're
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talking about outside the wire
19:44
new film on netflix um out this friday
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rich go for it well first i want to say
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congratulations on that film the banker
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man it was
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i don't think people really understand
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how how inspiring that film was because
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it really pulled back the curtain on
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some things that people really didn't
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understand when it comes to banking and
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black people so salute to you for that
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um thank you sir appreciate it yes sir
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uh twofold question i want to hear a
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little more about
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you know the the project that you
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produced and starred in
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but also i know you have a great love
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for music
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is there a music related project that
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you would like to do
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that you haven't done uh
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wow that's a that's a great question um
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you know my dream when i was a kid uh
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my parents for the holidays we had a
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record play my mom would always play uh
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sam sam cook and my dream is to bring
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sam cooke's story to reality um i love
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sam
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cook like i just i love the soulful art
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of his music i love
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you know his church background coming to
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where he is with the soul stirs
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and you know him going out and being a
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independent artist
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and the fact that he was murdered and no
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one talks about it
20:56
there was a huge conspiracy around his
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death uh involving the fbi at that time
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and
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you know everything that led up to that
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um
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as far as him being a civil rights
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activist you know his time with malcolm
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x's time with martin luther king what he
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did for the civil rights movement
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so i would lo and the amount of power he
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had the
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and is smart and intelligent and how
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when he started his record label he took
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over
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music and no other black person had done
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that so he was a he was a viable
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threat at that time to the popular
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um by seen by the fbi so i would love to
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play
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uh sam cook like that's i would i would
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do that for free
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all day um
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uh yeah so sam sam cook okay and then
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as far as the you produced and starred
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in this movie
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um what was that experience like just
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wearing those two hats right uh it was
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great uh
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my boy uh george nophy who i did
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adjustment bureau with
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uh 12 like 10 12 years ago we started
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talking about this project
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um and you know george nofi is literally
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the whitest dude i've ever met in my
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life
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but he sees it because his son is half
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black
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so he sees the world that his half black
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son is growing up in
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and he realizes the the opportunity
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of him falling victim to the american
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system that he lives in
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so when we started talking about this
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movie we started talking about it from
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the perspective of having black tongue
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um so being a producer it was it was it
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was gratifying because
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you know not only was i working with
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somebody who i trusted and i knew was
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going to make the best movie possible
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but we literally set out to tell a story
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that deserved to be told that no one
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would tell you know there are some
22:45
there's some monumental stories out
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there about us
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that we don't know um and i literally
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give 100 credit to joel and uh george
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nophy for
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you know sticking with this project and
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making it happen as two white dudes
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not from the hood um it was it was it
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was a it was a
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it was a beautiful process i learned a
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lot because i got to see on the other
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side
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of the lens a lot of actors produce but
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they only produce by name they don't do
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the day-to-day work they're not on the
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calls they're not reading the script
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every night giving notes
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they're not doing all that stuff but
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having to do that i really learned and
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um
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uh it changed the way i move into
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business now
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like i used to be confident and lazy in
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the business where
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i waited for jobs to come to me now i'm
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creating jobs and i'm giving people jobs
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that's the beauty of being a producer
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you get to watch people's work and say
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yo
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i want this dude on set you know
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so it was it was uh it was it was it was
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it was different and i enjoyed it
23:44
it was a great experience anthony mackie
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man uh this is great man outside the
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wire
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out this friday uh we got dr parson is
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on the line
23:53
dr parson graham risings hey doc
23:57
grand robin tracy g can you hear me
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yes we can yeah
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go for it and uh yeah how you doing uh i
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actually just want to holla at anthony
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mackie real quick because
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um actually went to morehouse college
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and his brother
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which uh i don't know if you have ever
24:16
met his brother calvin
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and we know him as dr mackie sway but um
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i just had to come over here
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and you know definitely a fan of your
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work uh anthony and
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you know i definitely appreciate what
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you do in your platform for everybody
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but
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i had to call up when i heard that you
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were coming on because
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your brother calvin is probably the one
24:38
most influential and inspirational
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person
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i have literally ever seen in my life
24:45
and i'm telling you this dude wow
24:48
probably has inspired
24:50
20 years plus of
24:53
morehouse graduates from all over the
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world 25 years
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by coming into town yeah exactly
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just by coming into town and
25:04
taking time out of his life to come onto
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that campus
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and just speak to us i remember my
25:11
freshman year at morehouse someone told
25:13
me hey man you got to come
25:14
you know dr mackey's here and i'm like
25:16
who's this dr mackey i don't know who
25:17
this is but i had nothing to do
25:19
so i went and i'm telling you ever since
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then to this day
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i still go online and watch
25:26
there's youtube videos of of dr mackey
25:29
giving speeches
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man i'm this dude man i'm i don't know
25:34
what your parents put into the both of
25:36
y'all
25:37
but clearly you know everybody sees your
25:40
work out in the public but dr
25:42
mackey is behind you know the scenes a
25:44
lot i mean he does
25:45
a ton for stem outreach he's got a
25:47
program in new orleans called stem nola
25:50
i mean that's his kind of passion is
25:51
getting word out there to get black
25:53
folks involved in engineering and
25:55
mathematics and things like that but
25:57
man when this dude speaks to you he will
25:59
literally lift your soul
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out of the gutter and you will walk
26:02
around with a crown on your head man
26:03
i've never seen it wow
26:06
wow wait a minute hey you dropped bars
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right
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yo get up man we got a hyenas
26:14
okay what
26:17
we need to interview aunt's brother we
26:20
need to do a tag team
26:22
actually actually you should interview
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my brother my brother is
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you know i don't i don't i haven't got
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to where i am
26:28
because of uh myself like i realized the
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legacy
26:32
that came from my parents and you know
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not just my one brother but both of my
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brothers my brothers are
26:38
outstanding uh men there are there's
26:41
many men that went into
26:42
making me uh successful and
26:46
giving me the opportunity that i have
26:48
and two of those
26:49
the most important two men are my older
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brothers
26:53
um my brother as he said dr calvin
26:55
mackey
26:56
has an organization stem nola if you
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haven't heard of it
27:00
go online and check it out he's on
27:01
instagram he's on twitter donate
27:03
he is literally affecting kids in a way
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that no one else is and he's putting
27:09
kids in opportunities that are
27:11
life-changing
27:12
not um moment changing and giving them
27:15
a different perspective and outlook uh
27:18
on life i don't know if he does it every
27:20
year
27:20
but he does the freshman orientation
27:23
speech and i've had the opportunity to
27:25
sit through that speech a
27:26
bajillion times um and it's really
27:29
remarkable and that was he he was a big
27:32
inspiration on
27:33
me doing the movie the banker and
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you know a lot of people don't know my
27:38
other brother you know he's a big
27:40
activist here in new orleans in the
27:41
uh the gay community and you know
27:45
one of my first literally one of my very
27:48
first movie
27:48
was a movie called brother to brother
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and if you haven't seen it it's i say
27:52
i believe and if you don't like it i
27:54
don't give a it's some of my best
27:56
work as an actor
27:57
check it out you got a problem with it
27:59
come see me i will deal with you it is
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an amazing movie made by a brother from
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brooklyn rodney evans and it's about a
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young gay man trying to find his voice
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in america
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and you know i did that because of my
28:12
brother like
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i didn't understand homosexuality as a
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black man in america homosexuality
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wasn't something i was raised to
28:20
understand or or or or
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or literally just walk with
28:26
so when i did that movie i came off that
28:28
set with a completely different
28:29
understanding of my brothers and sisters
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in america
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who are gay and lesbian you know so
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i realized how my how my growth as an
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actor affects the people around me
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so and that's all because of my two
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brothers so definitely
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my brother um everything i do
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you know i try to move in the light of
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my brothers you know they're
28:51
they're very very strong alpha males
28:54
just know when you check out my brother
28:56
he is an alpha male it is not
28:58
lunch it is a damn five course meal yeah
29:01
okay you will you will get up sad and
29:04
full
29:06
hello come hungry hey but well first
29:08
let's say thank you to dr parsons thank
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you dr parker
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you're a citizen man in the morning
29:15
and then uh i got one of those alpha
29:17
male big brothers too bro
29:20
it's a feast i can't stay we don't
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listen when we get on the phone
29:24
it is never shorter than 90 minutes to
29:26
two hours
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so i got a point i got a plan to call my
29:30
brother like okay do i got two hours
29:33
i got two hours not yet i'll call i'll
29:35
call t cal later
29:37
[Music]
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um hey check this out and
29:41
i love you com if i never told you that
29:44
congratulations stay the course
29:48
you got a village of us that's right
29:49
there on the side of you even when you
29:51
don't see us
29:52
know that we right there with you bro
29:54
okay congratulations on
29:56
outside dwyer anthony mackey and then
29:59
also
30:00
ant um victor oladipo
30:04
is an executive producer i'm a producer
30:07
um megan making good in uh
30:10
tamara bass or executive producers of a
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movie that's on netflix that just came
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out last week man i'd love to get your
30:15
support on it too
30:16
it's called uh if not now when
30:20
and you can check that out all all black
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you know all of us on i'm a music
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supervisor on it too it's on netflix
30:26
check that out and i'll be checking
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yours out okay
30:30
definitely watch it tonight definitely
30:32
if not now
30:34
when thank you aunt and then you guys
30:35
watch outside the wire this friday hey
30:37
aunt is this your number that you're
30:39
calling me from
30:41
uh no but you can get my number from my
30:43
people i'll get it from your people
30:45
all right anthony mackie ladies and
30:47
gentlemen we're coming back with
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