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An enormous bird rises from an Ontario field. A shimmering, humanlike figure appears across the Missouri River during a drum circle. A family in Arizona hears movement overhead—and discovers hundreds of white handprints on the roof.
Join Lon Strickler on Phantoms & Monsters Radio for eight report collections involving Native people, First Nations communities, and encounters that contributors connected to Indigenous stories or traditions.
Tonight’s accounts include:
• An Ontario reserve resident’s sighting of an enormous bird.
• Northern Ontario stories of the Hairy Man and a long-necked lake creature.
• Encounters with the “Furry Ones” on the Diné/Navajo reservation.
• Unexplained drumming during a Pennsylvania geocaching trip.
• A reported Glimmer Man sighting at North Dakota’s Kimball Bottoms.
• A tall, white figure silently swaying between trees.
• A secondhand South Dakota letter describing an alleged transformation and a family tragedy.
• An Arizona family’s frightening night beneath a roof covered in mysterious handprints.
These are witness recollections and submitted accounts, including unverified secondhand claims. The people making them are credited with cultural connections; the reports do not represent a single shared Indigenous belief system.
Have you experienced something similar? Share your account in the comments, and please respect the witnesses, their privacy, and the distinct communities discussed.
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>> Hey folks, welcome to Phantoms and
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Monsters Radio.
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An enormous bird takes flight from a
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field on an Ontario reserve.
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Along the Missouri River, people gather
2:17
at a drum circle
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watch a human-like distortion moving on
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the opposite bank.
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And at an isolated home in Arizona
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a family hears something scrambling
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across the roof. In the morning, they
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discover hundreds of small white
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handprints.
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Tonight we're exploring accounts
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involving native people and First
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Nations communities along with
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experiences
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that the people reported them connected
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to indigenous stories or in traditions.
2:51
These accounts come from different
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places, families, and cultural
2:55
backgrounds.
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They should not be treated as parts of
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one shared belief system. Some are
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firsthand recollections.
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Others are stories passed along
3:08
by relatives, friends, or elders.
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Where a witness offers an
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interpretation, we'll keep that
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distinction clear.
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Now, what brings these reports together
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is an encounter that someone struggled
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to explain and remembered long
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afterward.
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Now, we begin in Ontario.
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On a familiar path between two family
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homes.
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It was broad daylight and the witness
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had made this short walk countless times
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before.
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Now, the witness writes
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It was around 2002 on the reserve where
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I lived in Ontario, Canada.
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I was in my early 20s, somewhere between
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20 and 23.
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That afternoon, I was walking on an old
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trail through an open field between my
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grandparents' home and my dad's place.
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The houses were only a few hundred feet
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apart and I took that walk every day.
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It was broad daylight, the sun was
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shining, and it was a beautiful day.
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I had made it about halfway across the
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field when I noticed something standing
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on the ground ahead of me.
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It was a bird, an enormous bird.
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The sight frightened me so badly that I
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stopped in my tracks and dropped low.
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I had never seen anything like it.
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For a moment, all I could do was stay
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close to the ground and watch.
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It must have realized I was there
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because it suddenly took flight.
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That was when I saw the full span of its
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wings.
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I estimated the wingspan at somewhere
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between 10 to 15 ft.
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I had no way to measure it, but it was
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astonishingly large.
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The closest comparison I can make was
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one of those prehistoric bird-like
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creatures you see illustrated in books.
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Something that looked as though it
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belonged to another age.
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I stayed down as it flew toward the
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forest. Even after all these years, one
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detail remains especially clear.
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The swishing sound of these enormous
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wings as it lifted off.
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We had plenty of The encounter was
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brief. I saw it on the ground, watched
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it take flight, and then it was gone. I
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never saw it again.
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Now, we have plenty of large birds here
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in Ontario, eagles, blue herons, and
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hawks.
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But nothing I knew of seemed to match
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the size of what I just watched fly out
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of that field.
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I remember feeling that my grandfather
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might have known what I had seen.
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He didn't say anything about it, though,
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so I
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can't tell you whether he recognized my
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description or what he thought of my
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story.
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It was simply a feeling I had.
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Also, I want to be clear that I wasn't a
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little kid at the time. I was already in
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my early 20s.
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Whatever someone
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might make of my estimate or my
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description,
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I was old enough to understand how
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unusual this sighting was.
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I still don't know what I saw that day.
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I'm wondering whether anyone else had
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encountered something similar on their
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reserve.
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An enormous bird with a wingspan unlike
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anything they had ever seen before.
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Now, the witness's strongest memory is
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the sound, the rush of the wings lifting
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an enormous body into the air.
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The wingspan remains an estimate.
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And the grandfather's silence leaves us
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without his interpretation.
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What we have is the witness's
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recollection of something startling on
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an otherwise ordinary walk.
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Now, our next contributor also comes
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from Ontario.
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Further north along the Hudson Bay.
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This person grew up hearing stories
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about a creature the locals called the
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hairy man.
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Then a friend's reported encounter gave
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those childlike stories new
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significance.
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The resident writes,
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"I'm from northern Ontario along Hudson
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Bay, and people around here have
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reported seeing strange creatures for
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years.
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The first one I grew up hearing about
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was the hairy man.
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He was said to live somewhere between my
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town in an area about 45 minutes north
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of us.
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And as a kid,
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I listened to stories about encounters
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that my friends' parents and relatives
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had experienced.
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What they described was essentially a
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Bigfoot.
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I heard the stories, but I always took
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them with a grain of salt.
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Then the year before I shared this
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account, a friend of mine and his family
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had an encounter of their own.
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They were driving north of town when
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they saw it emerge from a ditch,
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cross the highway, and disappear into
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the woods.
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A family approaching from the opposite
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direction in a minivan also stopped and
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witnessed the crossing.
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The police were called.
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By the time officers arrived, the
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creature was gone.
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What remained were two excited families,
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one or two enormous footprints, and a
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powerful odor that the witnesses
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compared to rotting garbage.
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The second account comes from a lake far
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north near a town that has been
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abandoned for many years.
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The sighting reportedly happened about
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70 years before I told this story, and
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quite a few people were said to have
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witnessed it.
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One elder who told me the story
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described watching something that looked
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like a brontosaurus moving through the
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forest. Its head rose above the canopy.
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They watched it make its way slowly
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toward the lake, enter the water, and
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swim toward the wider part before
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disappearing around a bend.
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To understand the route,
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picture the lake shaped roughly like an
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upside-down snowman,
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with the town at top of the head and the
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broader section of water beyond it.
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From the witness's vantage point, the
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creature moved from left to right until
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it passed out of sight.
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Now, I know most people don't believe a
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dinosaur could still exist, but for
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whatever reason, I believe there is
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truth to this story.
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Now, both of these reports reach us
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through someone who knew the people
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describing them.
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The highway encounter included a
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reported police response, although no
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police records accompany the submission.
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In the lake account, brontosaurus
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describes what the animal reminded the
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elder of, but it does not identify the
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animal.
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We now leave Ontario for a collection of
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encounters from the Diné Navajo
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reservation.
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The contributor believe begins with a
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childhood sighting in 1967.
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Other accounts come from a brother, a
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rancher, and the contributor's sister.
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Together, they describe creatures
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remembered as the furry ones.
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Now, the contributor identified a C
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writes,
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"When I was 11 years old and living on
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the Diné Navajo reservation, my younger
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brothers, cousins, friends, and I were
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playing with a kite.
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It was March. It was still a little
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cold.
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One of my cousins looked down the road
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and and said, 'Who's that guy watching
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us over there?' We all looked.
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We didn't recognize whoever or whatever
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it was, but it was very big.
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There was a fence post near it that
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reached only to about the middle of its
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chest.
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We later found out that the post was a
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little over 5 ft tall.
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>> [clears throat]
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>> The figure looked hairy. It had no
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visible neck and very long arms.
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It stood there watching us. Every so
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often, it leaned over, then straightened
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up, and continued watching.
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We quickly began pulling in the kite.
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Then it started to snow.
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One of my little brothers said, 'I'm
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going to tell Dad.'
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The hairy figure ran into the trees and
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disappeared in a blink of an eye.
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Now, at that age, we hadn't heard of
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Sasquatch or Bigfoot.
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We knew about the boogeyman, the monster
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our parents used to scare us with.
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It was 1967. Around that time, I began
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hearing about more sightings.
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That was also when I first heard people
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call the creatures the furry ones.
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My brother had an encounter one evening
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in a basin near our home.
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He had been hunting on horseback.
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It was getting dark, and he was
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preparing to head home, but he wanted to
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check one more area.
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And as he rode over the ridge,
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everything happened very quickly. The
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horse's ears went up, and it stopped.
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Below him was what he described as a
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Bigfoot sitting down and eating
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something.
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It looked up. My brother said its
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expression made it seem as startled by
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him as he was by it.
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The creature dropped on all fours,
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bounded away in four leaps, and
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disappeared.
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The horse panicked. My brother nearly
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fell, caught hold of its neck, and hung
12:16
on as it bolted towards the foothills.
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He said he couldn't stop the horse until
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they reached home.
12:23
Another account came from an older
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rancher who lived near a creek in the
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canyon.
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He arrived home one late night and saw
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something huge duck behind the old car
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parked along the road to his trailer.
12:35
And as he tried to move away, his
12:37
headlights caught it.
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He described the very large creature. It
12:43
escaped, although he said it didn't seem
12:46
especially fast.
12:49
The following day, he found two of his
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horses dead in a nearby gully.
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Both had severe injuries to their necks
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and hindquarters.
12:58
He connected the discovery with what he
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had seen the night before.
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Although he hadn't witnessed the horses
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being attacked.
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My sister, who lived by the river, also
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had trouble with something around her
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home.
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The horses would become agitated, and
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sometime a bad odor would hang in the
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air outside.
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One night, while an uncle was watching
13:20
the children, something large climbed
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onto the house.
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They could hear it walking and jumping
13:26
on the roof.
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The children were terrified. Their uncle
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gathered them in the middle of the room
13:31
and held his rifle toward the door while
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the noise continued above them.
13:36
And when my sister arrived home,
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whatever was on the roof jumped down and
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ran away.
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She opened the door to find the children
13:42
hysterical and their uncle holding the
13:44
rifle in her direction.
13:46
Now, according to my sister, the
13:48
creature returned several more times. It
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would climb onto the roof and jump up
13:52
and down and frighten everyone inside.
13:56
During one visit, she called my uncle.
13:58
He and her friend drove over and saw the
14:00
creature trying to escape. They followed
14:03
in their truck and fired at it several
14:05
times.
14:06
After that,
14:07
it never returned.
14:10
And this collection begins with children
14:11
quietly being watched and ends with a
14:14
family frightened inside a home.
14:16
The contributor personally recalls the
14:19
first encounter.
14:21
The later instance come through other
14:22
people.
14:24
The material provides
14:26
provided leaves the horses deaths
14:28
unexplained.
14:30
Now for our next report,
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the witnesses never see a creature at
14:33
all.
14:35
Their experience begins during an
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afternoon geocaching
14:39
uh
14:40
in western Pennsylvania. They were
14:42
looking for a hidden container in the
14:44
woods when they hear something they
14:46
cannot locate.
14:48
Now the witness writes,
14:50
"In the summer 2014, my girlfriend and I
14:53
went geocaching in western Pennsylvania.
14:56
What began as a short afternoon outing
14:58
became one of the strangest experience
15:00
I've ever had.
15:03
I had gone geocaching a few times with
15:05
friends and really enjoyed it.
15:07
My girlfriend was new to it, so I found
15:09
a nearby cache, entered the coordinates
15:11
into my GPS, and we headed out.
15:15
The location took us into the
15:16
Pennsylvania State Game Lands. We parked
15:19
in designated lot and started walking.
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It was a hot human afternoon. The cache
15:24
was supposed to be only about a half
15:26
mile from the car.
15:28
We followed the GPS through the clearing
15:31
with the woods roughly 100 ft away on
15:33
either side
15:34
when we heard drumming coming from our
15:36
left.
15:38
It sounded somewhat distinct but close
15:40
enough
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that I thought we
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ought to be able to see whoever was
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making it.
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I asked my girlfriend whether she could
15:47
hear it. She could.
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We paused and listened.
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Neither of us knew what to make of it,
15:54
but after about 10 seconds, the drumming
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faded away.
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So we resumed our search.
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We had gone only another 50 yd when it
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started again. This time it was louder.
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At the time I associated the rhythm with
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what I thought of it as a Native
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American drumming, although I had no way
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of knowing who or what was producing it.
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We stopped and looked into the trees.
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There was nothing to see, no people, no
16:22
movement, and no obvious source of
16:24
sound.
16:26
I tried to think of an ordinary
16:27
explanation. Maybe there was a Boy Scout
16:29
camp somewhere nearby.
16:31
But that was only a guess.
16:33
We hadn't seen anything suggesting a
16:34
camp was there.
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We listened for a few more seconds. By
16:38
then, I was uncomfortable enough that I
16:41
no longer wanted to keep going.
16:44
I took my girlfriend's hand and turned
16:46
around and started walking quickly back
16:48
toward the car.
16:49
Now, [clears throat] the drumming grew
16:50
fainter as we crossed the clearing.
16:53
Neither of us spoke on the way back.
16:56
We got into the car and left without
16:58
finding the cash.
17:00
As we drove along the tree-lined dirt
17:02
road, I kept looking for something that
17:04
might explain what we had heard, a
17:07
gathering, a campsite, another vehicle.
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I saw no one.
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We didn't see anyone until we reached
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the main highway.
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I still don't know where the drumming
17:18
came from.
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What stays with me is how it faded out,
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or what stays with me is how it faded
17:24
out, then returned louder after we had
17:25
walked further into the clearing.
17:28
And how we could hear it so clearly
17:30
without ever seeing its source.
17:34
Now, the sound's origin remains unknown.
17:36
The witnesses associated with Native
17:38
American drumming was an impression, not
17:40
an identification
17:42
of the particular people or ceremony.
17:45
Now, in our next account, there is no
17:48
mystery about who is playing the drums.
17:50
The group had gathered along the
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Missouri River in North Dakota.
17:54
The mystery is what one participant
17:56
notices across the water,
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and what others begin to see when they
18:01
stop playing and look.
18:06
Now, the contributor JJ writes,
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"I'm writing from North Dakota.
18:11
When I saw the term Glimmer Man on your
18:13
website, it caught my attention because
18:15
I have experienced something similar.
18:18
My encounter happened two summers before
18:21
I wrote to you at a place called Kimball
18:23
Bottoms. Locals called it the desert.
18:27
I was attending a drum circle there.
18:29
It was around 7:00 in the evening and
18:31
there was still plenty of daylight.
18:33
It was facing the Missouri River and
18:35
looking toward the opposite bank.
18:38
That was when I noticed something
18:40
resembling heat rising from a pavement
18:42
on a hot day.
18:44
It stood out because I had already been
18:46
staring in that direction.
18:48
The drumming had put me into an almost
18:50
trance-like state, but then I noticed
18:53
movement within that shimmering area.
18:57
I stopped playing and walked closer to
18:59
the edge of the bank.
19:01
The longer I watched, the more the
19:02
distortion seemed to have shape.
19:06
It looked as though it had arms and legs
19:08
and it appeared to be swaying along with
19:11
the drumming behind me.
19:14
A friend came over and asked what I was
19:16
looking at. I pointed across the river.
19:19
Other people noticed us looking and
19:20
pointed.
19:23
More participants participants stopped
19:25
drumming and joined us at the bank.
19:28
Some could see what we were seeing,
19:30
others couldn't.
19:32
Eventually, everyone had stopped
19:34
playing.
19:35
The figure stopped swaying.
19:38
From where we stood, it seemed to be
19:40
watching us as we watched it.
19:44
More than one person compared their
19:46
appearance to the camouflage alien in
19:49
the movie Predator, something almost
19:51
invisible but with an outline you could
19:53
still make out.
19:55
We watched for
19:57
perhaps 3 minutes. Several people tried
19:59
to take photographs and record video.
20:02
When we reviewed the images on our
20:03
phone, we couldn't make out the figure.
20:06
Then we saw it move backward into the
20:08
tall reeds and the reeds parted as it
20:11
went.
20:13
That surprised us.
20:14
Even those who couldn't see the figure
20:17
could see the vegetation part.
20:20
A few of us stayed for about an hour
20:22
waiting to see whether it would return.
20:24
It didn't.
20:26
And as we waited, people began wondering
20:28
where it might have gone.
20:30
Could it have been the water
20:32
moving along the shore?
20:35
Somewhere among the trees?
20:37
These questions made the experience even
20:40
more unsettling.
20:42
I don't know whether the drumming
20:43
attracted it. I only know that I
20:45
believed I was watching I was watching
20:47
what I believed I was watching across
20:49
the river.
20:50
It was a surreal encounter and it
20:52
deepened my sense
20:54
that there may be things around us that
20:56
we
20:57
don't ordinarily perceive.
21:00
Now, the [clears throat] shifting reeds
21:01
are a particularly striking part of JJ's
21:03
recollection.
21:06
According to the account, that movement
21:07
was visible even to people who could not
21:09
distinguish the figure itself.
21:12
The photographs and videos reportedly
21:13
offered no clear image of it.
21:16
And this report prompted another person
21:18
to write in.
21:19
That reader believed the drum circle
21:21
encounter resembled something
21:23
they had seen in a friend's wooded back
21:26
lot.
21:28
The figure was intensely white with a
21:30
shape difficult to compare to anything
21:32
familiar.
21:35
That witness writes,
21:36
"I came across your post about the
21:38
drumming ceremony and the encounter with
21:40
what was described as a glimmer man.
21:43
It immediately reminded me of something
21:45
my friend and I witnessed in the woods
21:47
behind his house. Something that still
21:50
frightens me whenever I think about it.
21:53
His backyard included about 5 acres of
21:55
forest.
21:57
One night, close to 1:00 in the morning,
21:59
we entered those woods and both
22:00
immediately noticed something out of
22:02
place.
22:04
Down the path, roughly 30 to 40 ft away,
22:06
a tall white shape stood between the
22:08
trees.
22:10
I estimated it was 7 to 8 ft tall, but
22:12
it looked unlike a person or any animal
22:14
I recognized.
22:16
We couldn't see a face or any facial
22:18
features. There were no visible arms.
22:21
Its overall shape resembled an upside
22:23
down V or U with
22:26
two long leg-like sections
22:28
joined by the bulkier upper portion.
22:31
The best comparison I can offer is a
22:33
pair of very white
22:35
slightly shiny curtains
22:38
uh separated at the bottom but connected
22:40
at the top.
22:42
Even that description doesn't quite
22:44
capture it.
22:45
There appears to be a shape and
22:47
substance to what we were seeing. Its
22:50
whiteness had a soft, almost luminescent
22:53
quality.
22:54
Yet, it didn't illuminate the trees or
22:57
the the ground around it.
23:00
As it moved, I could make out shifting
23:02
shadows across the white surfaces.
23:06
The entire shape swayed from left to
23:08
right, back and forth.
23:10
Its two leg-like sections moved with it,
23:13
but we never saw it lift either one from
23:16
the ground or take a step.
23:18
Throughout the encounter, it remained in
23:19
the same place on the forest floor.
23:22
There was no wind. Nothing about its
23:24
movements made a sound.
23:26
My friend and I stood there watching in
23:28
silence. It was strangely beautiful, but
23:31
at the same time it was terrifying.
23:34
Then a feeling of dread began to set in.
23:37
It was a sinking sensation in my chest,
23:39
an overwhelming feeling that something
23:41
terrible was about to happen. I felt as
23:44
though I might die.
23:46
I can't explain why I felt that way, but
23:48
the fear became strong enough that I no
23:50
longer wanted to stand there watching.
23:53
"I don't like this," I told my friend.
23:54
He agreed, and we immediately left the
23:56
forest.
23:58
When we returned the next morning, we
24:00
checked the spot where the figure had
24:01
been standing.
24:03
There was nothing out of the ordinary,
24:04
and we found no discarded material, no
24:06
spider web,
24:08
and uh nothing else that seemed to
24:10
explain what we had watched.
24:13
Afterward, I shared my account and a
24:15
drawing with someone from the First
24:16
Nations community.
24:18
They gave me a name for what they
24:20
believed I had encountered.
24:23
My own research later led me to believe
24:25
there might be related descriptions to
24:29
more than one First Nations tradition.
24:32
That was my interpretation of what I
24:34
found. I still couldn't say with
24:37
certainty what we had seen.
24:40
Now, when I read the account involving
24:42
the drumming ceremony, it was the first
24:43
report I'd come across that felt close
24:45
to our experience.
24:48
I wondered whether those witnesses had
24:50
encountered the same kind of being or
24:51
something similar.
24:53
I wanted to speak to them and compare
24:55
our experiences. Even now, the memory
24:57
that stays with me is that silent
24:59
movement, a tall white form swaying
25:01
between the trees.
25:03
Its lower sections remain in one place.
25:06
I still don't know what it was, but my
25:08
friend and I both saw it,
25:10
and the fear I felt that night had never
25:13
entirely left me.
25:16
Now, both accounts describe a swaying
25:18
movement, but the figures reported
25:20
appearances differ considerably.
25:24
The connection was meaningful to the
25:26
witness. It remains a possibility
25:28
they raised rather than an established
25:31
explanation.
25:33
Now, our next letter takes a more
25:35
serious turn.
25:36
It combines an alleged transformation
25:39
with a family tragedy.
25:42
The writer did not witness the events
25:44
and supplied new independent
25:45
documentation.
25:47
I'm withholding identifying details
25:49
about the accused individual.
25:52
The allegations seem to be heard as
25:54
allegations or need to be heard as
25:56
allegations with particular care for the
25:58
grief described.
26:02
Now, the listener, identified as A,
26:04
writes, "I learn
26:07
Thank you for all the work you've done
26:08
over the years. I enjoy your YouTube
26:09
channel, especially the episodes where
26:11
you discuss the subject on your own.
26:13
Now, after listening to your Skinwalker
26:16
question and answer, I wanted to share
26:18
an account that a friend told me.
26:21
Our friend lived in Rosebud, South
26:23
Dakota. She's Klamath and originally
26:25
from Oregon,
26:27
but she also had close connections to
26:29
Lakota families through adoption and
26:31
marriage.
26:33
What she described was extraordinary.
26:35
I did not witness these events myself,
26:37
but I believe she was sincere about what
26:39
she experienced.
26:42
Now, while working as a food vendor at a
26:44
ceremonial gathering,
26:47
she claimed to have witnessed a man's
26:48
legs begin to change shape.
26:51
Now, according to her, they started to
26:53
resemble the hind legs of a dog.
26:56
She told me that whenever she noticed
26:59
this happening, she left the area as
27:00
quickly as possible.
27:02
She believed the man practiced harmful
27:04
magic, and she was afraid of him.
27:07
There was also a deeply painful family
27:09
tragedy connected to her fears about
27:11
this individual.
27:13
According to my friend, her son became
27:15
involved with the man's wife.
27:18
She believed that relationship placed
27:20
him in danger,
27:22
and that people associated with the
27:24
husband subsequently targeted him.
27:28
She told me her son survived a severe
27:30
beating after a passerby found him and
27:32
obtained help.
27:33
Later, she said he received word that a
27:35
young woman was being attacked,
27:38
and he went to help, but his mother
27:40
believed the call was a setup.
27:42
He was killed.
27:45
She said his remains were not found for
27:46
5 years.
27:49
In her account, fear and silence within
27:50
the community prevented her from getting
27:52
answers or justice.
27:55
These are serious allegations, and I
27:56
cannot independently substantiate them.
28:00
I'm sharing what a grieving mother told
28:02
me,
28:03
including the connection she drew
28:04
between her son's death and the man she
28:06
feared.
28:08
Her conviction is not by itself proof of
28:10
who was responsible.
28:13
The alleged transformation was what
28:15
brought your discussion to mind.
28:17
I wondered whether it belonged within
28:19
the broader subject of shapeshifting
28:21
encounters. However, I do not know the
28:24
appropriate cultural term for what she
28:26
described, or whether skinwalker would
28:28
apply.
28:29
My letter also comes from a broader
28:31
concern about the spiritual life and the
28:33
treatment of sacred traditions.
28:36
I have heard other troubling stories
28:38
including an account of sacred objects
28:40
that allegedly being stolen.
28:42
I cannot verify those stories either,
28:44
but they have contributed to my unease.
28:48
A Hopi friend once shared a warning that
28:51
he understood as prophecy.
28:53
Our children will kill us.
28:56
He then spoke about people in his
28:58
village walking around absorbed in their
29:01
phones.
29:02
He seemed to connect that warning with
29:04
the loss of of attention to family,
29:06
community, and tradition.
29:08
I am repeating his personal
29:10
interpretation rather than speaking for
29:12
a Hopi believes as a whole.
29:15
My own religious convictions also shape
29:17
how I view witchcraft and its portrayal
29:20
in popular entertainment.
29:23
I find the subject deeply troubling,
29:25
although I recognize that those beliefs
29:27
do not establish what happened in my
29:29
friend's account.
29:32
I realize this is a heavy letter.
29:34
Behind the strange sighting is a
29:36
mother's grief,
29:38
and I would not want that to be lost in
29:40
the discussion of what she believes she
29:42
saw.
29:44
Or saw. Your listener, A.
29:48
Now that letter leaves questions that a
29:50
paranormal interpretation cannot
29:52
resolve.
29:54
The material provided does not establish
29:56
responsibility for the reported
29:57
violence, and one person's
29:59
alleged actions should never be taken as
30:02
representative of community or
30:03
tradition.
30:05
Now we'll close with a report from
30:07
Arizona.
30:09
A family had gathered at a grandmother's
30:12
remote home
30:13
to celebrate a birthday.
30:15
Late that evening, the dogs began
30:17
barking and howling.
30:20
One person steps outside to investigate.
30:25
Now the contributor, JL, writes,
30:28
My story took place in 2014 when we
30:31
lived on the reservation in Arizona.
30:35
My entire family had gotten together to
30:37
celebrate my mom's birthday.
30:39
We were spending the night at my
30:40
grandmother's house out in the sticks in
30:42
the middle of nowhere.
30:44
Around 10:30 that night, her dogs
30:46
started barking and howling like crazy.
30:49
Now, at first, no one got up to check.
30:51
It was pitch black outside.
30:54
But, I could hear the dogs running back
30:56
and forth as though they were chasing
30:57
something.
30:59
I became curious, turned on the outside
31:01
light, and stepped through the front
31:03
door.
31:04
Suddenly, something jumped from a tree
31:06
onto the side of my grandmother's house.
31:08
It began crawling across the wall.
31:11
The closest comparison I can make is
31:14
Spider-Man.
31:16
It was difficult to see clearly, but it
31:17
looked like a small man moving like a
31:19
lizard.
31:21
Now, the house was covered in stucco,
31:22
yet this thing moved over it easily. It
31:25
was incredibly fast, and the dogs were
31:27
going wild.
31:29
I ran back inside screaming.
31:32
Everyone was terrified. I remember
31:33
crawling underneath the bed.
31:37
The noises outside were horrifying. It
31:39
sounded as though there might be more
31:41
than one of them.
31:43
I heard squeaking sounds that sometimes
31:46
became very loud.
31:48
Then, something would land on the roof,
31:50
and I could hear movement overhead.
31:53
I don't remember how long it lasted.
31:55
I stayed under the bed for the rest of
31:57
the night.
31:58
When dawn came, we went outside to
32:00
inspect the house.
32:02
A few pieces of stucco had been knocked
32:04
off, but there was less damage than that
32:06
I had imagined.
32:08
The dogs were in total shock. They
32:09
seemed exhausted.
32:12
My uncle got a ladder, and we climbed
32:14
onto the flat roof.
32:16
What we found shocked me.
32:19
There were hundreds of small white-like
32:21
handprints across the roof, extending
32:24
right up to the edge.
32:27
They looked like human handprints, as
32:28
though someone had dipped their hand in
32:30
white paint.
32:31
But, when I looked more closely, the
32:33
substance seemed more like
32:35
thick chalk.
32:37
My uncle told me not to mention to
32:39
anyone else in the family, especially my
32:41
grandmother.
32:42
All her life she had claimed the
32:43
skinwalkers were after her.
32:46
I hadn't believed her before, but after
32:48
that night I began wondering whether
32:50
there was something behind what she was
32:52
saying.
32:54
Later I asked my uncle what he thought
32:57
we had encountered.
32:59
Without hesitation, he said it was
33:01
witches.
33:04
He told me an old family story about a
33:06
curse dating back to a time before the
33:09
treaties.
33:10
According to what that story, a relative
33:12
had been accused of being a witch and
33:14
killed.
33:15
And elders had placed a curse on the
33:17
family.
33:18
But when my uncle laughed and said that
33:20
no one outside the family remembered any
33:22
of it.
33:23
Perhaps, he said, it was only a rumor.
33:27
I didn't know what to believe.
33:30
I knew what I had seen on the wall.
33:33
I knew what I had heard above the bed
33:35
where I was hiding.
33:37
And [clears throat] I knew what I had
33:38
found we had found on the roof the next
33:40
morning.
33:41
Now after that incident, I never spent
33:43
another night at my grandmother's house.
33:47
Now JL's account ends with a decision
33:49
never to stay overnight at the house
33:50
again.
33:53
The uncle offered an explanation rooted
33:55
in a family story and questioned the
33:57
story himself. The handprints are
33:59
described in the account, but new
34:01
photograph or analysis accompanied the
34:03
material we read tonight.
34:06
It leaves us with an unresolved
34:07
experience.
34:09
And a clear sense of how deeply it
34:10
affected the person reporting it.
34:13
Now throughout this presentation, we've
34:16
had memories anchored in detail. The
34:18
sound of enormous wings and odor beside
34:21
a highway, a figure watching children.
34:23
Reeds moving across the river and
34:25
footsteps on a roof.
34:28
Those details matter when we compare
34:30
reports. So do the limits of what each
34:32
person So do the limits of what each
34:35
person observed.
34:38
The witness may be certain something
34:40
unusual happened, yet still be unable to
34:42
identify it.
34:44
A family member may believe a story
34:46
sincerely without having seen the event.
34:49
And a cultural connection may deserve
34:50
careful investigation without giving us
34:53
an immediate answer.
34:56
Native nations and First Nation
34:57
communities have their own distinct
34:59
histories and traditions.
35:02
These individual accounts do not provide
35:04
a basis for speaking on behalf of all of
35:06
them.
35:08
Now, if you have experienced something
35:09
similar, please share what happened.
35:12
Tell us where and when it occurred.
35:14
Who else was present? What you directly
35:17
observed? And were there any
35:18
photographs, recordings, tracks, or
35:20
other documentation documentation
35:22
remain?
35:24
Please respect the privacy of the people
35:26
involved and any knowledge that is not
35:28
yours to share publicly.
35:30
Which details from Knight's report
35:32
stayed with you? Was it the bird lifting
35:34
out of the field, the shimmering figure
35:36
across the river, or the white
35:37
handprints covering the roof?
35:40
Let us know in the comments and keep the
35:42
discussion respectful toward the
35:44
witnesses and the communities mentioned.
35:49
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36:03
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36:05
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36:30
So, let's start the questions and
36:33
answers, and please type all your
36:35
questions in caps, please.
36:43
Lala Bride, do you think thunderbirds
36:45
could be surviving prehistoric creatures
36:49
or are they interdimensional cryptids
36:51
that occasionally cross in our
36:53
right our reality?
36:55
I don't know. I um
36:57
you know, the whole Thunderbird question
37:02
I don't know. It kind of leaves me
37:02
confused sometimes cuz people see a lot
37:04
of different things.
37:07
Uh
37:10
you know, wing-like creatures
37:13
especially in areas in in particular
37:15
Midwest and areas where they used to
37:17
have a very high
37:19
uh Native American or native
37:22
First Nations population at one point
37:26
always seems to drift towards the
37:29
Thunderbird explanation. I don't know if
37:31
that's true or not.
37:33
Uh all I do know is there are a lot of
37:35
things out there with wings.
37:37
Humanoids, creatures
37:39
maybe something from the past that
37:41
seemed to make its way back.
37:47
Dagnabbit, did you get a chance to see
37:49
the movie from David Paulides American
37:51
Sasquatch? No, I didn't.
37:54
No, I didn't.
38:03
Anything else, folks?
38:07
DB Cooper 420, I've long been a fan
38:10
since 2017 from Australia. I love
38:12
listening to these particular
38:14
particularly and look forward to them.
38:16
Would you ever do a video or accounts
38:17
from Australia or other countries, etc.?
38:20
Thanks. Yeah, I can do that.
38:23
I can do that. I mean
38:26
a lot of the stories that come out of uh
38:29
out of Australia have something to do
38:31
with Yowie, but
38:33
there you know, there's some other ones
38:34
that I I have looked into. In fact, I I
38:36
did an investigation
38:39
in Queensland years ago. So,
38:42
maybe I can pull some stuff out of that.
38:54
>> Anything else, folks?
38:59
I will tell you one thing.
39:01
The um
39:03
the report about the two walking legs,
39:07
I did get a sketch later on. It was kind
39:09
of a
39:11
a rough sketch.
39:14
But it reminded me of the um
39:17
>> [clears throat]
39:18
>> the walking pants,
39:20
the uh
39:22
uh
39:23
What do you call those things again?
39:26
I I you know, out in Fresno, the Fresno
39:28
Walkers or Fresno Nightcrawlers.
39:31
It it it kind of looked like that in a
39:34
way. I don't know that's if that's
39:36
exactly what they saw,
39:39
but um it could been. So, I don't know.
39:43
Anyway,
39:48
Lala, I see this up there. You You see
39:51
many connect any connections between
39:53
reported glimmer figures
39:55
and traditional accounts of invisible
39:57
beings?
39:58
You know, there could be a connection.
40:01
Um
40:03
though, you know, since writing the
40:05
Glimmer Man book
40:08
and being involved with the
40:09
investigations the past decade or so, I
40:12
don't know what to think.
40:14
Um
40:16
people do
40:19
comment a lot about seeing
40:21
semi-invisible or translucent beings,
40:25
uh
40:26
large and small.
40:28
I don't know if there's distinction or
40:29
not. I don't know if there's a
40:30
connection or not.
40:32
But it could be.
40:37
Do you think Nightcrawlers are the same
40:38
as shifters?
40:40
It might be. I you know,
40:43
the the overall thought is that these
40:45
things are some type of ultraterrestrial
40:47
being,
40:48
maybe an extraterrestrial being. Um
40:51
I don't know. I It It I guess it could
40:53
be.
40:55
Uh could they be Could they move through
40:57
portals, come to our earth plane
41:00
by some type of similar means? I I
41:02
really don't know.
41:04
I've never heard of anyone saying that
41:07
there's any craft or anything else
41:09
associated with the crawlers, but they
41:11
do see several of them moving through.
41:14
And um
41:17
it's it's just a large unanswered
41:19
question. And uh I've been fascinated
41:22
since they first started being seen, but
41:25
there's not a whole lot
41:27
whole lot of explanation as to what they
41:29
are.
41:30
Uh it's basically what people saw,
41:34
their interpretation of what they saw,
41:36
and it's left at that.
41:38
So, um
41:40
I don't know if anybody's ever done any
41:42
night crawler books or not.
41:45
Trying to
41:46
the um
41:48
trying to distinguish what the
41:49
phenomenon is. I don't know I probably
41:51
hasn't been enough sightings to even
41:53
write a book. Uh
41:55
I guess you could if you, you know, if
41:57
you try to put comparisons in there, but
41:59
um
42:00
it's an interesting thought.
42:08
Anything else?
42:14
Okay, well,
42:17
I want to thank you again for joining me
42:18
this evening.
42:19
I'm grateful for your continued interest
42:22
and support of this channel. So, until
42:23
the next time, please remain observant.
42:27
Trust your instincts,
42:28
and remember that the world around us
42:30
may be far stranger than what we've been
42:32
led to believe.
42:35
Now, tomorrow morning
42:37
I'm going to be live
42:40
on
42:41
uh W L
42:43
W
42:45
700 in Cincinnati. It's um it's a
42:49
Halloween morning show.
42:52
So, if you can pick that up on the
42:53
internet anywhere, I will be on there
42:56
sometime after 7:00 and I I I think
42:59
they're going to be putting together a
43:00
bunch of different
43:02
um accounts from different guests.
43:06
So, that may be something you want to do
43:07
if you want to get up early in the
43:08
morning. Anyway,
43:10
have a great evening,
43:12
have a great weekend, and see you next
43:14
Friday. Good night.
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