The Ultimate Guide to Beginning TRT

Hi, everyone. I'm here with Jesse Townsend

Jesse Townsend is our training director at Parkway Athletic Club, our South Club in Reno, Nevada

Thanks for being with us, Jesse. Yeah, thanks for having me. All right

So we're going to talk about something that's really interesting. And you are going to be starting TRT

And now you've got your dosage and all that. And so you're going to be taking 200 milligrams a week, right

Right. That's a healthy dosage. And we'll see your testosterone was really low, though

What was it? Yeah, like 172 when we tested it. That's really low. That was your total. Did you find out what your free testosterone is

No, I don't know if that was in that report. I don't know if that was in that that test or not, but they want me to follow up with, you know, my primary now too

And just kind of have some more things done. Is there a recommendation? And I will. I'll do that too

Okay. So I've been on TRT for pushing 10 years now, 8 to 10 years. And I'm 16. now

And I'm just going to talk about, because you and I talked about this before you got your

consultations and everything, you got your consultations with Royal Medical. If you guys want to talk to Royal Medical, there's always a link in the description

And you want to call, you can talk to Dane. And they have a phenomenal price

That is, you get $45 off like the first, well, the first month is $195

and then you get $45 off for the next five months, I think. So it's $150

That includes your medications. It includes your blood work and your consultations

But you can use that promo code. But I also recommend that you talk to some other clinics

Get one that you're comfortable with. And I've been doing this for a long time

So I'm going to talk about my philosophy. But you've got to remember, my philosophy is viewed

through my own biases, my own body, and what's happened to me, where my testosterone was

and where it is now. So just tell us, Jesse, how are you starting

Yeah, so what I'm going to start with is, so they kind of recommended for dosing

I did look in there, Steve, and they did say his recommendation in my little letter they sent me

for, you know, they said I could take it twice a week, half a minute

half a millimeter and do it that way. They didn't say, they didn't say like, you know, how many days

like every three days or every four. Obviously twice a week would be kind of if you're doing it like

that. And I think a lot of people would realize this in the number having seven days a week

you know, it's kind of going to be a little bit odd on how you take it. You know, maybe you're doing

you know, every three days or every four days, you know, I guess something like that could work too

But, yeah, they said either twice a week or once. I feel like

like even after what we've talked about with that, I feel like there's a chance for

improvement in the way to do it, you know, and I don't want to deviate from what they're

prescribing to me by the dose or recommendation of what they're going to tell me to do by level

and I won't until I, you know, until they instruct me to based on my future labs and how my

body is working out with it and how I feel, too, you know, in that part included and how I perform

physically. But I think if like what we talked about possibly doing it more often in smaller doses

you know, maybe a little more effective and efficient for a couple reasons. Now, a little bit more

time consuming, you know, maybe it's a little bit more, you know, you got to do it daily or

possibly every other day is a method I think could be used. But so I'm kind of tossed up

You know, what I'm going to do, I think I'm going to start and do the

first one as they say just like the full you know one milliliter dose and which would be 200 milligrams of testosteronecipionate and then you know see how that goes for that first week I figure with that it kind of gets

into my system, you know, kind of let it do what it does. And then from there, I might go and do

like two a week to start and then, you know, maybe even go and possibly from that point go into doing

it, you know, daily in a smaller dose. And I know for me, and again, talk to different clinics

I definitely recommend talking to Royal Medical, but there's other clinics out there

And I've been listening to doctors, talking to doctors about this for many, many years

and they all have different opinions. Specialists have different opinions. Now, I'm going to talk a little bit about what my philosophy is, but again, it's based on me

This is not medical advice, but everyone's body is going to respond differently

First, I only want the testosterone. I don't want, especially starting off

I don't want the AI, basically their estrogen blockers. I don't want anything else

Because you, a young man, 37 years old, you know, you're probably on TRT the rest of your life now

Because you're doing everything healthy. There's something is off to make your testosterone that low

That's really low. If I wasn't taking any testosterone, my testosterone would probably be, total T would probably be 275 maybe

and that's my free testosterone would be better

which is what's really important is the free testosterone. So I know how my body responds

I can get away with 100 milligrams a week, which is half of what you're taking

Yeah. Now, I've bumped up in the last 10 years. I've experimented with everything

I go get my own blood work. I go pay for it. And I'm just experimenting to see how different things, how my body responds to different things

I have never needed an estrogen blocker. That's good. But why start with an estrogen blocker if you might not need it

Why take more medications that you might not need? That's my philosophy

Again, you need to talk to the clinics. And, you know, they have a place where they're going to start based on

on their experience. So that's what worked for me. But if I bump my testosterone replacement up to maybe 180

and how do I know this? I've tested it. That will jack my testosterone up to 1,800

That's high. That's only 180 milligrams. You've been prescribed 200 milligrams. Yeah

So you don't know how your body, mind just boom, really respond

Crazy. My free testosterone goes up 50 to 75% over the top range

Yeah. So it's like, it's way up there. Now, I feel phenomenal, but I don't need it that high

so I don't take that much. You know, I did it for maybe three weeks, four weeks, and that's what happened to my testosterone

Now, my estrogen was at the top range, which I like. It wasn't too high

My hemoglobin was normal at the high range. My hematicrit was normal at the high range, and I've been giving blood

and I did it like four times and it tanked my ferretin

Talked to my doctors. Oh, no more giving blood for me because it tanked my ferretin

I mean, my ferretin was ridiculously though. Everything else was okay but I caught it in time to be able to do the right things to get my ferretin back up So I think you kind of starting the same way I did right

Yeah, yeah. So when I talked to the doctor and had the, you know, tell the doctor appointment, because that's how they do it with Royal

So, you know, talked with him and, you know, he went through his whole deal and he went through, you know, the labs and talked kind of, you know, one by one, you know, what, what, where I'm

I'm at and small amount of information at that point, unless it was important and something he

wanted me to do. He wanted me to give blood. He said he recommended doing it, you know, at least every eight weeks, you know, once

every eight weeks, which I think is as often as you can do it at some of these donation centers

So, yeah, that's, and he said, yeah, my hemoglobin, my RBC count super, super high

And he said, yeah, you want to, even before I take anything

He wanted me to get in and give blood, if I could, just to kind of get that at a good place

But yeah, then we talked about the aromat, you know, anti-estrogens or the aromatizing givers

Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, whatever those names are, right? We all don't need to know every single one of them

But yeah, so I said, you know, I wasn't really interested in doing that

And I said that to him. And at first, I think he had it at first maybe in like a tablet form

And then like we talked about, he said, well, we can put it in, you know, the liquid too

And it doesn't have to be a tablet because the thing with tablets is I'm trying to stay away from, I mean, I don't even take aspirin or ibuprofen and things like that, you know, just because I know what it can do to my body and how it can be hard on things that I need to have lasts me a long time

And so if I want to be healthy and feel good. So I kind of said, no, I'd rather stay away from that

And he said, he said, that's, you know, I can choose to do that

And, you know, but again, in that, I got kind of confused because I also heard the part where he said he could put it in the liquid

And then as I read my paperwork, you know, we'll find out if it's in that when I get it or not

But I don't think it will be. So, yeah, I'm starting the same way without that

They also recommended some, you know, make sure you're as a male that my natural male hormones as far as test

social functions go, are still kind of working some or working some extra. So they give that

they prescribe that chlomaphene medication too. And I think that's one that you take based on the

amount that I got and knowing that I have a two-month supply of medicine coming is what it is

I think that you take that one like once every couple weeks maybe or something like that is

probably what it is. So I don't know that I'll take that one either. Honestly, I may just

you know, put it away and again, see how my labs come back, like what you were saying. You know

if there's things that are dipping estrogen or estrogen raising, you know, estrogen going up

um, maybe I consider having an inhibitor, you know, but got to see how your body reacts for sure

I agree with that. Right. And I mean, I didn't, for me, you know, the first thing, oh, by the way

if you guys check that link out, the promo code is Vitality 1 if you want to talk to Royal

But again, try to talk to some other physicians and your general practitioner

A lot of times general practitioners will really poo this, but TRT is going to improve your health if you need it

So, you know, the aromatase inhibitors, I tried an oral one time

That was many years ago, and it was just three times a week, and it trashed my liver enzymes pretty quickly

Did it? How do I know? I go test all this stuff. Is it going to do that for you

I don't know. Maybe not. But I didn't like how high it pushed up my liver enzymes when I got the liver test

So now, if you get it in the oil, which is in the injection, which is how

I recommend, I've tried the cream, I've tried everything. It's probably not going to affect your liver like that. Right

Just like you know an injectable testosterone If anything it improved my liver health You know which people go how it do that Well you getting healthier in every way You putting on lean body mass muscle

You're losing body fat. That's going to improve your health in every aspect

Yeah. Think about it. You know, if you get leaner and your body composition improves

your health is going to improve in just about every area. So I think that's why it's been a positive for my liver enzymes

As long as I don't take oral medications, which I try to avoid ibuprofen and stuff like that

I got to be in a lot of pain, which is maybe if I injure my back or something

So that's how I do it. If you guys have questions for me or for Jesse, he hasn't started yet, but we're going to be doing a series here and keep you all posted on how this

is working for him and what it's doing for him, how he feels

And it takes some time, sometimes a month or two to get it right

So if you guys have questions for us, put them in the comment section. And we'll be happy to tell you what we're doing or what we think is working or what other

doctors have said to us. So any last thoughts, Jesse? No, I just think that as I kind of listen to you, talk through all these parts

and we go back and forth. Like one of the biggest, most important things to recognize and stuff like this is the resources

you know, that are out there and what's available now, especially, you know, pretty easily

You know, I think some people think, and I know this because for a living for a long time now

and, you know, for what I like to do is genuine passion, I help people daily and I meet with new people

every day that want to be fit, that want to get healthier, that, you know, want to do all these things

But when I start to talk to them about, you know, what they're, are what they are doing now, what they have been doing. And I realize on average, you know

most people aren't using resources and, and health tools and things that are out there and

available. The main reasons you get is time, maybe money, you know, whatever it may be. But like

what we're talking about, even with this, you know, getting the lab work done and working with

Royal. So maybe your, your ideas to not work with a company yet to get you on the right path

which I would recommend if, again, if financially it makes sense. But maybe it is just making sure you do, you know, these labs and these things for yourself

And do them early on, you know, in age if you can

And that's the stuff that I'm learning even myself. And, you know, don't just think that because you feel good

And because, I mean, think positively, of course. Don't think there's something wrong unless there is

But know what's going on with your body and have these things checked

And not as a scare tactic and or. something, you know, to bring, you know, into your life more negativity, but know what you're doing

So you know what you're up against. And you know, you know, every few years how your body has changed

You know, what has happened. And more info, if you're really wanting to be healthy and you're

wanting to take care of yourself and have good quality of life as you age, more info, kind of the better

you know. So use the resources and, you know, get out there and get yourself people for these things

that you can deal with and be consistent with these habits. It takes more than just sometimes the food eating and the workout stuff

Absolutely. And you guys hear me say this all the time. Don't be lazy

Do your own research. You can always listen to my opinion, but you don't just go on what I say or what Jesse says or what anybody says

Even your doctors. Do your own research. And YouTube is a great place to get a lot of information

Just search TRT and you'll get a lot of really good content on this topic

So make sure you think for yourself. Make sure you're taking your own health responsibly and take responsibility for it

So Jesse, keep us posted and thanks for being with us. Yeah, thank you