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all right so just a quick recap uh after part three there we started hearing the healing aspect the healing journey of
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what Annika went through after the incredible story that she shared in part one and part two and we're going to
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continue that Journey here in part four and afterwards we're going to get into a little bit of the takeaway some of the
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deeper aspects of why we felt this interview was just so important so enjoy part four and we'll catch you at the end
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so one question with regards to your personal Journey which we're talking
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about in your your healing in particular how does one
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deal with having to take someone's life and how do you heal from that
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right I'm not sure if I'll ever heal completely
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from it I I did carry this burden though very
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very strongly for most of my life and that was the purpose
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for me to carry that because I couldn't speak out for example the
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strongest reason one of the strongest reasons why it was not so much because I would be killed but it was because I
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thought that I would be called out as a perpetrator because I felt that I was because
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I at 11 years old I was given the choice
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and I had taken a life so I had obviously worked in therapy
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I had heard some good people tell me that I was a
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victim too and I didn't believe it
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I wanted to believe them but I didn't believe it so it wasn't until
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um 2013 writing writing about the experience
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again and suddenly I suddenly put it together there were certain little things that
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were missing from the memory and in particular what I remembered is
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what I had always done in the network and I always thought about the way
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to do the action that I was made to do that I knew I wasn't a choice and was
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made to do it in the way that would cause the least harm and then in this situation
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that lease harm meant that I should kill her
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and I realized that it wasn't the guilt I had a guilt complex I lived with this
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vast guilt complex that everything that I ever did or said I always went back
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and thought I must have done something wrong in it so it's not introspection
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it's a guilt complex just constantly going back over every little interaction I couldn't really function very well
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because I was always you know any you know somebody wouldn't call back and I would worry that I'd
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done something to upset them you know and I wouldn't maybe even ask them and
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maybe say no not at all you know it has nothing to do with you basically but
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um that just hung over my life like it like a cloud for most of so 13 I was um
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well I was it was right before I was 49. it was right before my 50th birthday
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so from 11 to 49 I held that I had this tremendous Guild complex
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and then when I when I understood fully understood
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that through I had to ins I had to internally believe it you know so once
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that happened it was the birth I call it the birth of self-esteem
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I mean I knew that it's not my fault but to take a life
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I did that anyway you know that's I went through that action of taking that life
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I think of this girl every day what she looked like
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I um I haven't felt anything or anything but
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I think of her every day and I am thinking of small ways rituals to
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honor the children that were killed in the network
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the ones that I saw and ones that I didn't see
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and what what have your experience let's say your spiritual experience of
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having heard some confirmation that she is safe at that time
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[Music] that's a different realm yeah so yes I
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in that moment I I wanted to know I heard that then so it's the spiritual in that sense it's
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separate as long as we're in the body and working out [Music] you just have to work
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that psychology and go back and um and and really know it
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by feeling it right so I don't feel guilty today
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about it I actually feel that because of that experience I
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understand killers I understand how they would become
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addicted to that moment
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I understand it and I understand the projection I understand the the
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so this girl when I struck she wasn't that girl at all
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so in the biggest sense you have to dissociate and you have to project
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onto the victim in order to do what you do so that had been done to me but now I
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was doing it and so she wasn't that girl at all she was my mother and then she was me at the essence of it it was I was
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killing myself and that insanity
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is necessary to kill whether it's a person
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or whether it's an animal usually to take a life
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you have to dissociate you have to
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get away you know from your feelings of empathy and you have to get in Hunter mode which
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is the the system kind of under prey mode yeah and in the smallest sense
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um judgment victim identification or I was in the place of the victim
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and I was really inhabiting that space of my victimization
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and it's this victim identification that is the first prerequisite to cause harm
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that you the moment you think you're the victim you're actually setting up to
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harm someone else because it it removes all responsibility from you
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and you have no accountability at that moment and so in the smallest sense it happens through judgment
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and when I'm not talking like I'm above all of this by the way you know I'm experiencing this all the time but I'm
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always looking at it from the smallest sense judgment there's a judgment
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I have to well judgment is maybe too different
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um but the moment somebody does something to me like driving on the road and I
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feel like they're victimizing me well I used to just feel like a victim and be angry
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you know for getting cut off or whatever you know yeah and now
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I dealt with that problem somewhat I'm not such an angry diver anymore but what I realized is
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if I get if I feel like a victim I just start to think oh there must be some
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young part in me yeah that is actually trying to express something now you're you're you have
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healing triggers when something happens yeah and it snaps you into Consciousness rather than snapping you into
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unconsciousness nice nice way to put it yeah yeah to bring the healing Consciousness to
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the trigger rather and the trigger is there and then a little bit later comes oh but yeah
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and that's a very satisfying way to start to deal with those things that
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happen on a day-to-day basis yes right yes and and self-esteem really is necessary for
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introspection So It's tricky because if you don't have the self-esteem
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um humility you know you you're just going to either beat yourself up
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um you know it's not really doable without self-esteem So It's Tricky it's always
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tricky right and we're living in a world where
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our fellow human beings and ourselves are always in need of feeling better about
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ourselves and so if we can be aware of that just be aware of how
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powerful it is when you judge someone and how powerful it is when you make someone feel like they're okay the way
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they are and they're perfect the way they are how powerful that is you know and that's one of the things that we can
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any day anytime with any person we can just activate that absolutely I feel
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like we're part of this great thing that's happening yeah to listen and then also reflect
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you listen to me and then you also reflect so that I know that you actually understand what I'm talking about even
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though I also feel that you understand me because you're already open you know there's an an energy of
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vibration now tell me about this group that you've
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started and how you're kind of in a very special and
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very specific way bringing this critical awareness to to some people
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yes so I've been in uh support groups for a long time for sexual abuse but
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then um Satanic ritual abuse is very specific and I started to meet in the group for
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sexual abuse or to meet survivors of Satanic ritual abuse and as I was
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um well I came to the group with a lot of years under my belt and then I came
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I had a lot of help from the support group as well and then so I started to work with survivors of Satanic ritual
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abuse and then after my video went viral people reached out to me from all over
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the world so that resulted finally in our WhatsApp
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group that I that I moderate that I run for survivors of Satanic ritual abuse
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so this um this has been an incredible experience
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because I always thought that there were no other people that there would be no other people alive
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as I was saying before we were pitted against each other and we were not really we couldn't really
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befriend anyone because we couldn't openly befriend anyone because that girl punished or if we try to protect someone
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we got punished for it yeah so
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so now I find that this group not only
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um that the things that are described are as
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horrific of some of the things that you heard and and worse um you know there's certain things that
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I I had a relatively short time in the network compared to others
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I never got pregnant it's too young
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before I get pregnant and even
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in you know I haven't of course told you everything but I went through some
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horrific horrific things well there are people who've gone through things
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that you know are different and you know so things that you could never dream of
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and yet the vibration of the group there is this incredible sweetness first of
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all um Incredible strength and
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for each person it's I think it's the first one I don't there are groups of survivors of Satanic ritual abuse but
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not the specific support format but I know that I know there are there's actually in fact a conference but you
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always have to worry when something is very public how it gets infiltrated and
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um uh how safe it then is at the end of the day so um I moderate and there's
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definitely safety guidelines and so people
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share get to share and then get this experience reflected by someone who's been through it
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so when people were telling me that it was not my fault because I was made to kill and they were
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telling me no it was not your fault well I didn't believe them but when I say it to someone who's been through it as a
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child and they were made to kill and they're carrying that well I know
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I've been through it and I can tell them it was not their fault and I can go into the specifics
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and they can really believe it and to have our experiences first of all it
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tells me most everyone is younger than me so there are the new generations so I
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can tell you that the people currently empowered are just as involved in these extremely
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dark actions as were the people from my generation that you know were ruling in
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the 70s 80s World rulers white men though only and certain white women I
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I'm sure that it happens in other cultures but not I never came across
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anyone from other cultures um
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and the tactics employed are what we've been through and that the
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specific tortures that we endured that you would never think anyone could
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think up seems to be just right out of a handbook it's really quite amazing
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and we've all been through the same things and for all of us we're finding this
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reflection on this big big level for the first time and there's no one telling us what to do
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because we're all we've all been through it yeah and the healing from that I think is
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exponential like we heal we we I've learned I've yields sometimes I realize
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Things fall into place for me I understand things from the network perspective
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um that I didn't understand before the reason for why a certain torture is
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done and um it's beautiful and I'm going to do the
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same I'm going to do so this is my this is what I most precious to me right now
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right and um what is the most amazing thing to me is
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that everyone there there is this understand it's like we get to now be the children that we
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wanted to be we get to help each other and we get to support each other and we got to we get to tell each other that
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we've always been on each other's sides yeah yeah and uh it's it's so beautiful
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so beautiful I was going to say that you know having had the courage to go through your healing journey and having
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that giving its own satisfaction now additionally you're bringing to these
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other people your experience your empathy your compassion and they're
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bringing it to me yeah but yeah so you're it's a shared sort of Journey yeah where you you occur each person's
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courage is is being rewarded here and it's it's almost like must be like
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feeling like you're home it's like this is completely you know yeah very much home and then
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somebody posted a picture there today I was so funny of a unicorn looking at an
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article and that says that unicorns don't exist and here's the proof
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oh that's how we feel that's something
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so that's done online it's uh on the phones yeah and it's is
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that a I don't know what's a I know what's up but that's a messaging and it's it's yeah so it's small now it's
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WhatsApp but uh eventually I think it will become a group yeah um you know we have to always consider
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safety because when we're going to meet in person there's always a safety implication I don't think you can say
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well let's just meet all let's just all meet here you know there's there's this network is um dangerous and
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we have to be careful so there's certain safety measures in place for the for the group of course we never can expect that
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no one's looking in looking looking in yeah but um we have our ways to to stay
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safe okay so now maybe we can talk about this network yeah uh in the time we have left
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and with the intention of making people more aware of what's going
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on in the world and a bit more about you know the structure
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of power in the world yeah and also I'd like to get your sense about are things
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changing now or do you feel things are the same or do you feel you feel something's changing do you feel
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that their power is starting to slip away things like that now you said before that we couldn't
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maybe have had this interview that's five years ago absolutely right so
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things are definitely changing and uh that for me the change has been so refreshing from 30 years ago when I
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couldn't even say that I had been sexually abused really oh no I could but it was
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you know the the powers that be especially in the media um you know I would read so many
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articles in very well established and you know magazines that I wanted to very much like because I would I was
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considered I I think I'm more left-leaning because my perpetrators happen to be a lot of right wing wing
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politicians but they are definitely from both sides there's no sides when we get
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up it's like up versus down you know not left versus right yeah so the American
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perpetrator gave me a good glimpse because he was a social engineer
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he was not himself a politician but he controlled politicians okay okay controlled one of the at least one
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of the presidents probably more than one um so social engineering maybe people don't
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quite know what exactly yeah so this was someone from one of the families you everyone would recognize their last name
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okay uh you know one of the very you know known philanthropic families
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so born into it and social Engineers that he was working
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very hard he was working behind the scenes mostly uh
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to put out an agenda
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a dark agenda that you know I don't know the history of it very well
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but I'm sure it links I mean I've heard it links back to the Vatican that makes a lot of sense
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um it links back over centuries
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and that there is some sense that you can be born into it or you can try to sort of
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grow into it and make your way to the top and that's part of the structure that
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the more you rise the more you have to give up of your integrity and the more you are definitely going to be bought as
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as you rise so there is no way to rise to the top without being completely
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compromised and the higher you are the more compromised you are right so that
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so the difficulty is for beloved figures you know you there's like these political figures very beloved
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and you have to start to think about
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um because they were not there by accident and there is no real democracy this is
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being engineered so the idea that you have any choice when you're voting for
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two people anyway it's just to me completely insane and the idea that you can make a
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difference with voting has been proven so many times to be wrong and yet
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there's been a very so I've noticed uh since the the shooting in Florida the high school shooting in
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Florida I've noticed a very strong um push towards getting everybody to
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believe in voting again I don't know if you've noticed but there's been a lot of messages using
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children to put those messages out that you should vote I see them you have your power through your votes yeah that's
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been really prevalent so because the truth is that you make no difference whatsoever by voting none
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that's not accept that you're saying you're going along with the system yes by voting you're going along with the
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system by voting and the system has been set up um it's not run it's not a democracy
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this is not a democracy so if you know I heard a Hollywood mogul talk about the
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Democracy uh it's not a democracy uh it's um
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group of people who I want to speak from personal experience
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so my my sense was that they they felt entitled
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um I've seen some strange things but mostly
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I felt the I felt what the arrogance was maybe the most
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prevalent uh characteristic that all the people who are involved in
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this were extremely arrogant and I think humility is like one strong
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the most you know if you don't have self-esteem you can't be humble
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because then you're going to feel humiliated so if you don't have self-esteem you need to prove so I know that from
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experience so arrogance again is like a pointer that
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you have pain that hasn't been felt that hasn't been resolved
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so these people were the most arrogant and they felt entitled both by Blood by
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the birth and they worshiped Satan
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they gave sacrifices to Satan the children were sacrificed to Satan so that's the thinking behind it but I
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always I think it's actually something else I think there is this religion
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and the history and the rituals and so forth but I always felt what's really
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going on on a psychological level is that these people are killing a part of
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themselves and they need to keep putting that into manifestation to feel that they can live
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so there are these parts of this religion is it is it's a belief
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that involve working on longevity in your body
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staying here like you know like this is it I'm not going anywhere in power
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you've got power don't lose it don't lose
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everybody else well if you have no concept of of yourself then you cannot
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believe that you can exist after death your body is the final
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reality even though you're working with psychically you're working with vibrations and energies and so forth but
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not the awareness that after you die you can also still exist as an entity as a as
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yourself as a Consciousness in a different form
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um so it comes for me the essence is fear
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fear it's all fear-based yeah and it's the fear of a small child again I just
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see small children I was raped by about 200 men
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in that time in those five years and um
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never an exception that the person
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who came there was a young boy who was asking
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me to give him the love that he didn't get
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rather that was by being a mother by taking on the dirt
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or whether it was a mother by giving affection
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whatever they were asking me to do it was always coming from a very young part
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and I always felt older than them and you were probably a year or two
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older than who they were projecting out
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to be able to actually be emotionally a little bit older than them
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although I was you know probably in certain ways much older and in other ways much younger
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than my age I obviously many parts would not have really developed right
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I find it I have to say I find it amazing in your story
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about how you you make us understand the child
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and how prevalent childhood childhood experience
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than the nature of seeing things through a child's eyes is so prevalent in
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this power structure yes it's like it's ignoring the child
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yeah like to ignore the child that's weak weakness ignore the weakness
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and it infiltrates everything I mean the brainwashing system so again if we believe
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that people in Authority can actually make a change you know
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it's naive to think that anyone to look at the world today
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and to know what's going on more or less with all the war that all the warfare that's going on that we do know about
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and then all the Warfare that we're not being told about right um and all the suffering that exists
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people still dying of hunger for no reason at all and the Earth being completely exploited
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to a point of you know near extinction of the earth like the Earth is hurting and
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um this kind of greed where it is at the bottom of this the greed
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is like a toddler who wants their the toys right who wants all the toys
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it's not not more than that more than that no no you're absolutely right
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it's not more than that because even a 10 year old would be wiser than that
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10 year old emotionally
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can you if we put 10 year olds as leaders of the world we'd be in better shape yes
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yes who were emotionally their age our leaders are emotionally infantile
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but they're very smart and that actually is trying to balance out for this lack this um
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you know what psychopaths are very sick
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and we've all been injected by that sickness we've all been taught not to feel
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growing up is a lot about not feeling and the sensitive people you know have a
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hard time right in the world and that's true absolutely but
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um it's actually not true because the more you feel and
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the more you're in touch with everything and so that actually brings great strength in the end yeah no sure but but
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as you say the sensitive people are being told by everything they see and look at that you know they don't
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really fit right into this they're the losers they're losers they're not they're not moving up fast enough for
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Bill Gates will say you you don't work hard enough you know and you're going to be bad for our society because you know
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we need workers and we need it well they need workers that's right they need workers I don't know how many hours a
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day we really need to work but that's another thing like we all go to work for to feed this uh hungry Beast
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that is the infantile the infantile a little little boy that that can never be
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it's emptiness inside and The Emptiness is ignorance that's
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ignorance of the self ignorance of the true nature of the self which is not
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physical so let's talk about what we're noticing about this particular moment in history
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yes in terms of broadly [Music] um
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things changing yes I'll tell you from so Yogananda is
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my teacher and his Guru wrote a little essay about the yugas which are
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um eons of time yes but they're not eons actually that's the current
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um interpretation of the Hindu the Hindus is that it's very very long but he says
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that was actually a mistake from the Kali Yuga from the Dark Ages so he has a
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book called The Holy science that's available from self-realization fellowship it's a short book it is a
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book about comparing scriptures and showing how the world how the physical
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world comes into manifestation so it takes may take a while to get to
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wrap your head around it or to have your whole being around it but the introduction to that little book the
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holy science is about the yugas being a 24 000 year Cycles
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with the shortest being the Dark Ages a thousands years and based on the concept of this realm
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of Duality where everything needs an opposite that our solar system also our sun also
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has a star that is its opposite and there is a magnetic Center in the
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universe that we either are drawing towards or moving away from whereas the
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Opposites is going the other direction so according to his calculations we
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would be having left the Kali Yuga which was the Dark Ages when man was not able to comprehend anything but matter
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um and this is given rise to all the
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discoveries this electricity and so forth and 1700.
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and then those years
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um so in the spiritual sense it is that we've entered this new age and that this new age is an age of
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higher awareness and an age where selfishness has no place the
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matter-bound self is that little boy you know who has only his own body and
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nothing nothing but the physical reality whereas we we know that that's not all
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there is that there's so to go back to the unity of human kind
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that it's time to unite as human beings and to move out of this sort of Mastodon
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of an old Power structure which is just trying to hold on
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and kind of kind of kind of gripping right now I think a lot
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of the shifts that we're seeing a lot of the uh more and more is being revealed yeah
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more and more of the Warfare is also being revealed and I think this is an a momentous time because if there is this
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this possibility not to fear Monger but I think there is this possibility that we don't wake up that things have to
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just get a lot worse that people will have to literally be smacked down to the ground and suffer great great losses to
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under to get back to the essence of what life is all about if we just remain in this brainwashing
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and remain just ignorant of our privilege and ignorant of what it means to be privileged and how
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we cannot use privilege and not connect to those below us and not you know
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reaching down is like Service is like a the best thing to to just immediately do
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something immediately yeah yeah go and go into the jails and prisons and serve there and get over your Prejudice I was
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you know funny because when I heard that you were working in prisons I just automatically
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got this idea of the pyramid right yeah and the power is supposedly up there where
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people are all reaching to and you're reaching down here to serve and that's
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where the real power is right and that's where you can make such a big difference for people that's where the real power
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is well in the sense of the people are open people will be open
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to being connected yes and they'll have the humility which is required you know
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the meek shall inherit the earth so that's what I mean by the real power absolutely
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um and the real power you know the the feeling of of going into prisons and
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seeing people there and almost for me saying you people we know you people shouldn't
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be in prison you know of course we should be celebrating your lives and we should be taking all your experiences
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and getting some wisdom and insight from them and just flipping the whole thing around you know right with the reality
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of some of course people who are there because they have done things but again
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always coming from this place of trauma so that um I'm not saying that certain people
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should shouldn't be part of society there are maybe ways to remove certain people or if somebody is a Relentless
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pedophile well obviously you shouldn't be in society that doesn't mean he has to be in a dirty prison
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that it's just that to remove a person like that with the giving them a chance
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to heal also which you know this is a big debate but
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you know that's why I wanted to go there because there's people who I know about
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the guilt and I know how hard it was for me to get back to us beginning of self-esteem after
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in this situation when I was a child so just imagine that you do that in your
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adult life much harder to get back to your innocence yeah but it's possible
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yeah yeah um it's difficult for psychopaths but even for psychopaths it's possible
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you get a feeling that you know despite you know the the trauma and the getting
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into psychopathy that there is a part of us that's indestructible it's there it'll always
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be there and it's a question of can the person connecting with It
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ultimately seeing it's there somewhere inside it is there for everyone the
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lights in everyone yeah now how far that's covered let's just say that
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someone like my mother you know I don't expect that you'll ever be able to contact her light
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and many of the people that abused me I it's not that I wouldn't wish it for
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them right but I don't expect it just because they've gone so far over the deep end
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they've caused so much harm the first you'd have to like roll all of that back well but so if we take a bigger picture
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and say you know in The Reincarnation of Souls and coming
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back and having the capacity to deal with the trauma ultimately
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at some point we're all going to come together as one right we are one that's our journey we already are one yeah
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that's the thing but we'd have to know it yeah we have to learn to know that so and one with my perpetrators
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it's hard to say that but that is a truth that that is there that I'm
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reaching for and energetically so I think another thing another way in
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which we are not so helpless is to be able to use thought
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um as a vibration as an energy to you know I send light to the worst
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abusers I visualize them in the light I also visualize my group the group of
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survivors that I work with I visualize the children that are suffering today in
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this in all the networks which are probably many many many children so I do these visualizations of light
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and I think that it's the next level you know that we we if we can change our
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thoughts and if we can really uh
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recognize that everyone has light in them even if we can't see it and if even if they can't see it even if
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they can never access it but it's there that may be a good place to start and sending light I
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mean I couldn't for the longest time I couldn't send lie to my abusers so I wasn't going to do it then but I do
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it now I send them light because I know that they need it more than anybody and you see them as they are now
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not quite not quite no um no I'm not there
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I still give him a little bit of power but um closer yeah well that's the
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healing Journey right yeah and you've come a long way I've come somewhere so
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been of Great Value is going to continue to be of great value and I wish you all
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the best thank you thank you so much now I want to thank
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you for coming here and for um being thorough and serious and
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valuing my voice and my story it's my pleasure okay so that is the conclusion
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of probably what may be one of the most fascinating and intense and and gripping
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sort of stories that has just so much in there to take away from it from a you
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know real life point of view but then also from a Consciousness point of view where we begin to understand like wow
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how does someone that has gone through something so intense and so I guess you
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could say painful I mean really that's really what this is what this is I mean what not to get into a comparative
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analysis but when you imagine um you know someone having to go through that at a young age you know having to
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be a child sex slave having to be faced with almost being killed yourself and
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then at the same time being asked to kill somebody it's really really really intense and it's
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something that is very very difficult to come back from not to say that it's not possible and this is why this was so
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important to us to share because what we were showing here was that if you notice in annika's testimony in her whole story
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here she is not at a place of victimhood she is not at a place of you know she's
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in fear or she's not at a place where she wants revenge she's at a place where she understands
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and and is able to share and has process and has come to a state of peace with understanding the role that all of these
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things in her life has played and really what this plays for Humanity as a whole and how this cabal these people these
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Elite that are in power are really empowered for a specific role in a specific reason and providing we take
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our power back our we don't give them so much anger we don't give them so much you know aggression and wanting Revenge
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we actually take the power away from them that they actually require that fuels their existence to begin with and
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when she shared that that was like a moment I remember I was almost in tears hearing it because for someone to be in
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a having gone through the Journey that she had gone through and yet still getting to that point it opens up the
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door in a deep deep deep deep way for us all to recognize no matter what we've been through in our lives we have the
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capability we have the ability within ourselves to truly over overcome the challenges and the stuff that's there
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and this leads so deeply into a lot of the conversations that are coming forward today where we're learning about
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things that are happening in our world some of the darker aspects of humanity and in many ways we want to stay in
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victimhood but we know deep down that that's not going to lead us Anywhere But continuing to have suffering right and
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Annika is an incredible amount in my opinion of proof when we start looking
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at that her story is incredible and the work she's doing now is she's taking what she's gone through in the Journey
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of actually overcoming these traumas and she's teaching this to other people in prisons and and other people who have
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gone through this sort of stuff through her yoga practice and through her one-on-one work and this is incredibly
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important because this is where we truly realize that change starts within and
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when we change ourselves from within from the inside you'll notice that these feelings of aggression and revenge and
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wanting all this aggressive Justice all the time and wanting people to burn and all these different things is coming
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from a state of consciousness a state within ourselves that is actually fueling this system and is fueling the
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the the the world that we have out there that doesn't resonate with us on a deep level so what we really need to do as we
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process this stuff and again the value of being able to go through a story like this is to understand how powerful we
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truly are when we begin to process what it is that we feel what it is that we go
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through and when we move through these traumas to a point where we actually can get to a state of Peace within ourselves so once again if if the remainder of
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this story has brought anything up has has challenged any aspect of ourselves or is bringing forth certain emotions by
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all means check out the meditation that we had in part two once again because this is truly truly how we're going to
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move through some of the challenging aspects of this story and this story here we we invite you to share it you
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know this is going to be available for anybody to share via email there because we really think that this story has the
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power to shift Consciousness in a way that allows us to see what we are truly
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capable of and what is possible regardless of what it is that we go through so I just want to say thanks
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again to Annika for allowing us to share her story and for sharing with her with Courage the depths of the story some of
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the stuff that she shared in this interview she did not share anywhere else to the date that we that we had
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actually filmed this so thanks again for everybody as well for watching um because this is truly something
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that's incredible to work through incredible to pay attention to and that's it that's all you know we'll we'll catch you in further episodes that
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we have here on cetv