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very highly defendable and that was very important because of
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my belief in the belief of many other people that i have great respect for
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that the world is going through a i'll call it a meltdown once the
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people found out what had been done to them by their representatives they felt that
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it would be much better for their health and safety to be somewhere else my understanding it was the third ever
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closed session of congress we found that no matter where the politician was and what
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committee he was on when top secret things were talked about they wanted to close a session early so
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they could get out and put their tips out to the to the new so
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we don't have any uh confidentiality in that so it leaked out i'm sure am i right in
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assuming that you wouldn't contradict those leaks i wouldn't contradict them at all thank you
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this is bill ryan and kerry cassidy from project camelot and this is monday june the 29th
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and this is a project camelot interview with a difference because not only have i flown
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the best part of 8 000 miles at least it feels like it it's not quite that many from europe to be here for the weekend
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but we are also here with david wilcock who's also flown to us los angeles here for the weekend to join us
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in a meeting that we had with dr pete peterson who's a name that not many people will
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know but maybe among the many extraordinary whistleblowers and contacts and researchers and
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scientists who we have had the great pleasure of talking to may be one of the most important and
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yesterday we were talking off record for the best part of 12 hours and
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our minds are still digesting an enormous amount of extraordinary
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information that he shared with us some of which is off record and as much as possible
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uh pete is willing to put on record here on camera because you feel
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don't you pete that there is profound an important reason why the sort of
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people who will be watching this video need to hear what it is that you have to say we want to salute you because
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you're a very brave man and one of the things we want to ask you
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straight off the cuff is why is it that you feel that you wanted to put some of
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your almost unbelievable and very important testimony on camera for a lot of people to listen
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to and watch and understand at this time why is it that you've come forward and
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you're talking to us now well i think the main reason for that is that uh
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i've had a inside insight for many many years
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having been picked up in various programs to do things for the government since i was 13
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years old and being a problem solver i wish i
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could say that it was hard work and so forth but i come from a long line of inventors
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on both sides of my family tree and and people who graduated from school
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very early and uh were significant in
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uh affecting things that affected humanity a number of them and and virtually uh
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every kind of field and climate and i see that the
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world seems to have gone downhill i'm aware of many programs to
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remove intelligence from people and return the people at least of this
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nation to a a mediocre status we've watched the
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school systems deteriorate we've watched the as my wife likes to
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say the program in the school systems no child left with a mind
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and that's her paraphrase for it
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and i've seen that uh the type of government we have though
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i'm a patriot and uh very crudely used the phrase that i got uh
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the flag tattooed on both cheeks and my fanny the hard way i spent 10 years in the marine corps and
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a great part of that was in combat and combat zones and other things i did for the
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government and like to think i i'm unique in that i was probably shot at on most continents
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and anyway what i see happening is a complete turn away from
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the way this country started out and then its constitution to what appears to be headed toward a a
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socialistic system where reason and logic has no no bearing
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and it concerns me and i have no idea if my voice can help
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i have no idea if that can but i know that my ideas i have ideas i have inventions
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that have proven to be very helpful to society and many of them have been suppressed by
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the fact that we had a government that was run by industry rather than by the people
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and it's turned away from that and many industries are actually governed by rules and
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regulations that make it virtually impossible for them to exist if they do things that are good
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for humanity for example we've had numerous
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things that happened in the industry of alternative power that were very inexpensive very capable
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but what we do is we've through their own legislation limited the power companies to
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being able to charge a certain amount over and above their costs so when their costs went down their
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profit went down and they couldn't economically operate what i would love to ask you about pete
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before we go into some of the stories that you have to tell and we have good reason to believe
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that having spent the best part of 12 hours yesterday talking about a tiny fraction of your experience i
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think that we could we could probably talk literally for days and what the people watching this video
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are really concerned about i think is what can you
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help them understand better than they do at the moment about what's really happening on this
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planet at the moment what are the agendas of the controllers how much trouble are we in and what can people do and i
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want to put that question on hold because this is the purpose of this video as far as we're concerned and there's a whole separate topic which
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is a technological topic because this man we're talking to now has
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told us about technology that we didn't know existed and my brain is still reeling over a conversation that we had at breakfast
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this morning about which i'm going to say nothing now before we start all of that
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and that was a wonderful overview that you gave about your intentions can you give us a little bit of a timeline of your career history which
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started when you were very young um a little bit about the kind of things you've been involved in
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we're not asking you to name names but we just want to present you as somebody
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who people can get some kind of an idea of who this person is that we're talking
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to whose name they haven't heard before well uh i can do that i
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uh very interesting thing we were talking about uh i have no idea where these thoughts
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came to me but i know that very early on in life
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i was so different from the people around me that i thought that probably i fell from the sky in a
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titanium egg and landed in my grandfather's orchard and my parents found me there and i think you're probably right
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actually having talked to you for two days and until i was about 22 i actually believed that he is real he's solid he's right uh
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then i quit believing that when i was in my mid-20s and in my last few years uh i'm nearly 70
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and in my last few years i've started believing that again because i find that the people i'm stuck
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with here on this little spaceship earth or don't seem to have the same uh
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view the same view of anything and it may be that i'm just wacky but
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uh my wackiness is uh has made a lot of products and made a lot of sense to a number of
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people throughout my life when for some reason i
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uh well probably genetics because i have on both my both of my parents sides
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i have long lines of geniuses that extend back in history and i grew up in a home
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that was entirely powered and heated and cooled
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in a very temperate climate was powered by the sun and by atmospheric pressure
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change it was a home that had a gallery inside of it much like mexican
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haciendas but was covered where we grow grew all of our
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meat products in the form of chickens and rabbits and such and where we grew all of our food
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products so you had an interesting and unusual upbringing had an interesting and
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unusual upbringing and uh we drove in cars that my father
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made and invented and we lived in homes that my father
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built out of strange materials that were very highly insulated my dad
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was a pioneer and tilts up concrete buildings and and uh was an engineer for the military
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when in my youth through second world war and you were hand-picked and chosen for a
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special program when you were as young as 13 is this yes i uh distinguished myself
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at age 10 by building a number of rockets that held altitude
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records world altitude records and uh by inventing a
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material that's used even today to power solid fuel rockets uh that material got out of my hands
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because i'm not a businessman and wasn't a businessman and freely gave
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it away and other people capitalized on it but i liked explosions and
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so early on started building rockets there's a wonderful story that you told us yesterday that we'd love to say again
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very briefly and i'm going to be using the word briefly in my in my questions here with with an apology because we know that you
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could talk with us literally for days about the extraordinary experiences you have the
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things that you know the things that you've been told the things that you strongly believe with good reason
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but one of the stories that we want you to tell is what happened one day when you were 10 years old with a bunch
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of adults and you had an extraordinary experience well that
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i'll preface that just a little bit with the the fact that as i was growing up uh it
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was in a very small town a small country town about three blocks
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long and and uh not a lot of people my parents uh had a uh
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a home that had a formal garden and many of the local people would
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borrow that for weddings and family reunions and things like that which my parents
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gladly lent them the facilities and there was a wedding that went on and
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as i remember it was uh kind of in maybe june or july of 1950
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and at that point i had had very limited educational resources
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in this tiny town but one of the books that uh got me very very interested in
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uh ancient peoples and anthropology and archaeology was the book uh that was written about
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the discovery of king tut's tomb and about the time i finished that book it got me very very excited to learn
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about the egyptians and learn about the technologies that they had and and who they were and how they built the
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pyramids a lecturer came to town
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the man who wrote the book contiki thor heirdoll and then that got me excited so i
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decided i wanted to be a anthropologist archaeologist and was dead set on it and reading everything i
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could get through the state library system on that subject and uh along came this wedding and just
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about as the preacher was to say the words of destruction to the
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bride and groom uh someone pointed up the sky and said
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what's that and everyone turned around there were about 130 people there and everyone
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turned around and looked and for the next two hours everyone at the wedding watched a
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series and groups of what i can only call flying saucers
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flying through the air some as close as maybe a hundred feet then some as far away as maybe 20 miles put on
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a spectacular show and everyone there saw it as did many people in the surrounding community
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are you all the same no they were uh they were very different ones some were uh the shape of a pencil and seemed to
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have windows uh along the periphery uh some were round like a ball
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some were saucer shaped with a bubble or a dome on top some slots are shaped with two or three
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bubbles on the bottom uh if you go back and look through the
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various flying saucer sightings that we've heard about over the years there's probably
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one or two of everything we've ever heard about and these things would dash away clear
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out of sight and come back they would run away from the people at the wedding party directly so you were
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looking just in one spot and the significance of this is that at this point
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you made a major life change right at this point i made a major life change i decided i was much less interested in
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king tut than i wasn't having my own flying saucer right and so uh immediately
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uh started studying science and so i've studied science ever since
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and much of it toward the end of building my own flying saucer
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and over the years i came to the conclusion that it was uh to build a flying saucer
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uh you really needed to know first how to build a what i call a doctor who phone booth for
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those who don't know doctor who was a british science fiction fight science fiction spoof that
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runs on many stations in america about 1 a.m to 2 a.m and there have been something
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like six or seven different doctor who's over the years it's run so long
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and uh doctor who had a red british phone booth he didn't have a
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red british phone booth he had a black police phone box it was a police phone box ah okay it
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wasn't a red one all right but he had a a two-holder british phone booth and
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uh he would go into it and it would become a time machine it's called the tardis it was called the
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tardis and uh so he was a time lord and he would travel back and forth in both
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space and time and so uh as i tried to figure out how
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to build a flying saucer i found out it was easier to build a tardis and then i got thinking well who wants
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to just shove a aerodynamic body through air when you can just simply get somewhere and dial your destination and walk out
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where you are and you don't have to push anything through the air so uh anyway i work toward that end
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and have done many many science projects some for large corporations some for
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we'll call them agencies and some many of them for myself and
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i'm in the process now at age 69 of building a laboratory to complete the
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work that i've done and having acquired a number of very special pieces of equipment
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for researching such things and so that's that's what i'm about right now and i'm
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in the process of building that laboratory in a remote location where there are very little
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man-made magnetic fields we don't really get television or radio direct much here and have very very little man-made
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interference electromagnetic interference and it allows me to do my work
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that i need to do and so that's that's the life change that happened when i was 10 years old and
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so i've been on that pursuit ever since and we would say be careful what you wish for because now you have the understanding
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as far as you have have have told us in our conversation so far you have actually the understanding if
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you don't have the factory to actually be able to make these machines and you can also confirm
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that that the powers that be on planet earth actually have access to this technology
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and use it for all kinds of reasons is this correct uh as far as i can tell uh there are a number of governments
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that have this technology uh my feeling is and or my knowledge is
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that it's been acquired from people who came to this planet from off planet
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uh and it's been from uh the reading of a lot of ancient documents uh dating back as far as six thousand
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years to the sumerians to the sumerians i have a sumerian document that's been translated
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that tells exactly how to build a flying saucer and it's a direct translation and
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it uh probably doesn't give everything but it certainly gives the principles and i've experimented with a number of
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those principles and find out that things take place that in modern physics aren't aren't possible
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and i've worked with a group of scientists that have
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have recently discovered things in both mathematics and science that would lead me to believe that the greater part of
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science that we have today and i have a phd degree
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in natural philosophy which they used to call physics that took a lot of effort to
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acquire and it leads me to believe that these ancient documents uh portray knowledge
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that we simply don't have and that the knowledge we do have is wrong and you've been privileged to spend time
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in the vatican library is this something you can talk about on record uh probably
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well i can't talk about things that uh there's a lot of information there that uh is very contrary to things that
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we believe very deeply both philosophically and and scientifically and that's basically been
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held away from the public it's not common knowledge a lot of a lot of translations which i
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think probably came from the remnants of what didn't burn in the
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great library of alexandria some very ancient documents and i was involved in it for at a time
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with machine language translation of a lot of that material which was
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in those days was somewhat crude but at least it gave us some ideas and the ones that looked good were later
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translated by people who uh had done you know lifetime studies of
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the language and i think they're pretty fair translations are you able to say about anything that
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you learned about the annunaki or is this software well the annunaki who are written about in
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the christian and jewish bible texts uh there are i i've seen skeletons
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of what we call giants uh there have been uh recent giants there
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are you know people that would travel around with traveling circuses and so forth that were very very large through genetic
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problems that they had genetic errors and all of them had
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joint problems they had organ problems they died young
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the bodies couldn't support the weight things like that but some of the skeletons don't show those
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anomalies that one would see and uh they're very well formed they're
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very uh very much like our skeletons uh in many respects and they were
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written about in the bible and they were written about another ancient text so one has to believe i know that
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there were numerous suggestions that dna tests be run
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on them once we got dna testing pretty well down and i know those have been thwarted by
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various religions and various school bodies people not wanting to
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say that they're they're things that we don't understand or that they don't understand or that
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they don't want to understand but but we human beings are from
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et lineage oh we know my my belief is that uh uh i'll give you an example uh
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radiocarbon dating has become very very accurate and we have very good records of
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cavemen that didn't have a language they drew some some drew pictures some
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didn't we found caves with their tools in them with the evidences of their civilization
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with their making crude tools and things
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and there have been a number of spots that those were found especially in africa and europe and the middle east
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and then all of a sudden over an 80-year period he merged a civilization that for three thousand
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years had the same language and the same religion and the same writing in the same mathematics
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and was very very advanced from things that came afterwards and uh you know in modern history
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since uh oh let's say 300 bc we haven't had any civilization that
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didn't change the language to where you couldn't read it in a 300 year period yeah now many of the viewers in this video
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will be aware of the influence on ancient sumeria where this this this fully developed civilization
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seemed to appear from nowhere i was just asking whether you can confirm in any way what a lot of people
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a lot of people suspect which is that we actually are have been created or engineered
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by ets who knew what they were doing and who wanted to create us for special purposes
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well i i don't have uh absolute proof of that that's one reason i'm building the laboratory here
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but one of the things i did notice in the late 70s and early 80s
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i did a lot of medical equipment engineering and i designed a
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machine that would read a field that surrounded the human body
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and could could give you a readout on the condition
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of the organs the organ by organ in the body and then it could locate or find or even
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create a medication that would fix it and uh one of the things that i found
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was in the early beginning that that machine could pretty accurately come up with 50
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diagnosis rate of 50 percent and of course i wanted it to be perfect and
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spent a number of years finding out that the reason that i didn't get over 50 was because a lot of people had genetic
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errors in their genetic system and as a result of that they had disease
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processes that were based on those genetic errors so you had to treat them very
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differently as people that had a disease that was based on virai or germs or
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you know other of parasites especially and so i finally got it to where about
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70 to 75 percent of the diagnoses appeared correct and the selection of medication treatment appeared so
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uh correct and then i thought well okay there's 15
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percent here that i really don't understand and it was about oh 10 or 15 years later
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that we got pretty familiar with and pretty good with genetic testing
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and i found that that 15 of people had very very similar uh
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sequences in the dna that that were unlike
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the other 85 percent of the people and they were unlike anything else on earth they appeared to
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be alien to the earth and so i thought well
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that well could be through exposure to some form of solar radiation or some
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type of ionizing radiation and uh so we looked at people that lived
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in areas that had uh natural radioactive compounds like the areas in southern utah where a lot of
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the the carnotite and other uranium bearing ores were mined and
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people spent time there people were in fallout zones of nuclear testing at the
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nuclear test center in nevada we sent the gemini capsule up
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and it went up and well the first capsule that went up and
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uh so we're all sitting in mission control and
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called up and you know ground the capsule ground the capsule hello do you read us
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[Music] comes back and there was dead silence
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and everybody laughed because we had to think the last guy
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that went to work had to be the guy that ran for lunch and right down the street from jpl
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right above the rose bowl was it was like one of the first jack-in-the-boxes
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and you'd drive in and you'd order and then they'd repeat the order back and then come back
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you couldn't hear a word and so everybody realized that these astronauts had
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taken their turn going and getting lunch and etc etc and everybody laughed and thought they were
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simulating the jack-in-the-box effect it turns out that that's the best communication we had
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and so immediately chris craft turns to me and says peterson solve this problem so i made a thing
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that we eventually called the lecture laundry and uh it was a device that found out
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why such things took place and they still take place we still go to drive-ins and you can't understand a darn thing
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but i built some no-noise microphones but also had a device that removed
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all of that problem and we found out there are three narrow pass bands for all the information of speech is
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recorded two of them record the information one of them gives you the identification of the speaker and if
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you and but that one pass band that gives you the speaker identification has to have a variable
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frequency start up and drop off and so you have a little knob on it so
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you turn it on in a lecture and you turn this knob until you can hear the speaker very very clearly and you can hear them
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perfectly and you don't hear the airplanes go over the police cars go by
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people shuffling their papers the noise from the cooling fan the noise from the rear projection fan
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et cetera et cetera et cetera so uh anyway one of the one of the
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little things out of my life but i used to build those and i when i uh
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moved to build my new laboratory nine years ago
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i quit building those so that's one of the products i intend to put back in production i checked to see
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why i couldn't get the uh the final 15 of the diagnostic readings correct
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and finally came to the conclusion that it was because these people had uh dna
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that was uh uh had come from off planet and that led me to think well if that's
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the case there must be some kind of historical record and when i went back and looked at the
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historical record i found out that there are numerous records and numerous uh
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uh archaeological evidence that uh we were visited by
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people from uh off planet and uh very probably in my opinion not only off
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planet but uh extraterrestrial or extra solar system
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uh type of visitors and uh you know there's there's so many
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different uh people that claim having seen
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such things that they existed uh seen such peoples there are several broad
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categories of such aliens a few a few a small percentage of those could
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be attributed to anything from paranoia to uh just tall tales or whatever but when
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you have as many as there are all the way down through all of recorded history
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leads one to believe that it probably was very very true that such things existed and as an example anyone who wants to
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find something from the past uh read his ezekiel in the bible in the course of
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your work have you encountered any documentation about the existence of our relationship with creatures like this
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i have most of them i can't talk about sure but yes i've seen things written by
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scientists that i have very high respect for some were teachers of mine some were people that i
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work with scientifically in other fields and there were casual
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conversations about such things and led that's why i have the beliefs
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that i have that that we have extraterrestrial dna in our bodies and some of us do
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it's rather interesting to note that there's been a lot of supposition
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about various various programs to reprogram people's
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minds to throw their thinking off to cause them to uh believe things that
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aren't necessarily true but politically would be a very good thing
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for those in politics and in government and in religion and
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it's interesting to note that mind control techniques work on 85 percent of the people and the 15
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that they don't work well on are people that have that particular dna string
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okay so another you know just another verification that those people are very
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different from the average person pete uh i'm sure we're going to have
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tons of people wanting to know of this 15 dna category
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is it all one type of person like one race or or are they distributed throughout the
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population and if you can't tell us you can't tell them no they're uh they obviously run in family trees
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along family tree lines or family lines but they're pretty well distributed throughout all different cultures and
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races thank you i thought that was the case and uh which would be which again would be to me a confirmation that they
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probably did happen because why would someone come and select just one one race or or
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one family line so this is black and white and red red and american and yellow and
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green and blue and whatever yep how about your dna are you one of those
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as far as i know i am we probably all are in this room and uh we probably all are in this room
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matter of fact i found that as as the last uh 10 or 12 years have progressed
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i've noticed that many people when i talk to about things that i know
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that are a fact in both science mathematics and in history as well as in my belief
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system i talked to certain people and the 85
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percent that i don't seem to have a medical problem with i.e the ones that have quote-unquote
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normal human dna don't seem to understand when i talk to them it used to be that they
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would call me crazy or it used to be that they'd be more really interested and want to learn about it but
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nowadays when you talk to those people when you're done talking they don't say that's crazy you're crazy i don't
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believe it they come back into consciousness and start talking like you've never said a word
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yeah interesting and so the people watching this video are probably among the 15 percent they're self-selective in many areas as
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well from what you've told me about you the people that uh that you deal with i
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would believe that they're probably in that 15 now
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there's so many places we can go from this conversation but there's something important which i want to grab here and now and that is you made an
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illusion a few minutes ago to when you moved here nine years ago to be in a very quiet
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secluded place with your laboratory which you're building to do your work and what can you
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say about why you are here and why people who are elsewhere
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might one day wish that they were also here well that's something that in our talks the last day or so we
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haven't really gotten into but i'm in an area that had two requirements for me
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and for some of the people who uh i do various things for that are not to be named but
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one of them is this area is uh very secluded from man-made electromagnetic radiation
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uh it's a very it's a deep valley with high mountain surrounding it in 360 degrees
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the entrance to it is through a very narrow long winding canyon so uh we don't we don't really get radio
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here or television directly and uh the the power that comes in here
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does have interference on it as well as it has information on it but uh it's it's very very secluded
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informationally and then the the place that i chose here is kind of back in a little notch in the mountains and so it's even
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more secluded so that was one reason the other reason is it's an area that's very highly
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defendable and that was very important because of my belief in the belief of many other
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people that i have great respect for that the world is going through
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a i'll call it a meltdown we're going through a change the
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alternative thought radio and television shows and motion
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pictures are all and books and movies are all fraught with the fact that
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something major is going to happen in 2010 or 2012 the end of the mayan calendar uh
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earth changes a number of things the yellowstone caldera is very very uh
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active uh the uh their areas up there where the ground has risen my understanding is it's risen
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about four feet uh we all know that there's got to be major volcanic activity
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under yellowstone area because we can go up there and see the the mud pots bubbling and old faithful
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geysering and and you get the same smell the smell the uh sulfur coming out of hades and metaphorically the same thing
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may be happening politically exactly and the same thing happening politically we've uh best best i can tell we've been
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printing not only billions but trillions of dollars with nothing to back them whatsoever
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and right now i have uh very dear friends in china that are offering me mature
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t-bills and mature u.s bonds that they can't seem to get cashed and
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that they're offering to for 10 cents on the dollar and they're trillions of dollars worth
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it would be enough that uh if the world court system would uh
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enforce their eventual payment every man woman and child in the united states that have to work for
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four or five generations to pay them off and what's the connection between that and your being here well that my being
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here is i'm in an area that because of its geographical location uh has
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has four seasons but it has a good growing season uh the area where i am exports both
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uh agricultural and uh meat product uh in far greater amounts and the people
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here would consume uh one pry bar uh or one stick of
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dynamite would shut access and and not egress particularly
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but it certainly would shut excess off so that if there were indeed a failure
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of the currency and the ensuing uh political and uh certainly geopolitical meltdown
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uh this area would be very protected from large groups of people with no money and
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therefore no food and no energy and whatever people come looking for food would probably come to an area like this
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is there anything you can say about your belief of the likelihood of these events transpiring i've been led
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to believe in numerous briefings and people that i know in
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fields that very definitely would know and so forth they've all warned me that i
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should be at a place like this and many people even those from europe and and other
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places that had very heavy financial collect connections and
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major cities around the world have closed those offices down and a great number of them have
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expressed a desire to move here if they haven't already moved here anyway here to this particular area this
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particular area so you believe that there's something
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very important happening this year and this is why you're talking one of the reasons why you're talking one of the reasons why i'm talking i've
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kind of uh if you would come out of the closet because i think that the the people that
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i find have uh are the people now that are say
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27 years old and younger have gone through a school system [Music] that hasn't schooled them hasn't trained
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them and then obviously because if you know anything about education has very specifically not trained them and not schooled them
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in political science certainly and in politics and in economics and certainly geo-economics
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and they just seem they don't have an idea of what's going on and you know we look at a a
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uh president that complained entirely about all the money that the previous president spent and then in the first 90
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days spent 10 times as much uh and and now the the it was turned
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over to the fed to spend it and the fed in congressional testimony on television said we don't have any idea where that
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money went we have no idea we can tell you where two billion of it went but we certainly can't tell you where 7
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trillion of it went or 6 trillion of it went we don't have any idea and
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you know the the people have just let that pass by oh that means that ourselves and the
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next four generations of progeny are going to have to work their whole lives to pay this debt off and yet we don't even have any idea
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where it went or who has it and it's certainly not out there helping the economy
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now if this occurs would this be a worldwide problem well it is a
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worldwide problem okay i mean uh i mean like the collapse look back at james burke's
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programs on connections and the thing of it is is the uh this is my
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opinion but the unions uh had to do something to
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get the union members to pay their dues and the only thing they really could do was increase their salary so the unions
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have increased their salaries to a point where the work has had to move offshore because we don't have people who are
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willing to work and be blue collar workers anymore they want to work and get white collar wages the white collar people want to
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get white collar wages rather than wages that were consistent with their production
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so in essence they've stolen from the blue collar workers and stolen from the the rest of the world by loaning them
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money and then taking all their natural resources at very low rates so this has happened all over the world it
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hasn't just happened here and so we're seeing economies beginning to fail everywhere
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and we've been dealing with the system now for 70 years or better of fiat money money
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that's back with nothing and it's like uh was said about the irish when they
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moved into new york and into boston everybody made money by taking in the neighbors wash
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sure in your personal opinion and if you can qualify that personal opinion it would be useful
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what do you think may happen if there's some tipping point of social instability or
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financial instability that occurs before the end of this year well what can people expect let's take a look at the
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uh the depression of uh in the late 20s
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people had ethics they had morality ethics and morality were removed from the school systems 25 years ago
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and for specific reasons it had nothing to do with reasons of ethics or morality it had to do with political reasons
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so they were taken from the school systems so in the 20s when we had a depression
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people would go out to farmland and knock on the farmer's door and say ma'am i got three little kids that need
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to eat and i'll shovel manure i'll dig potatoes i'll hold the the
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weeds out of the garden i'll do whatever i need to do to get something to feed my kids
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now what people have been taught is that they're owed a living they're owed to live like television says that people
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should live and uh they don't have an ethic they
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don't have a morality and so what happens is if we have a financial collapse it won't be like the
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20s it's going to be like uh it's going to be like today and
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you're going to have anarchy and absolute chaos
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and the government knows that they've recently asked the service
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members if they would fire on civilians if they were asked to which is entirely against the
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constitution we had a second amendment and the founders of our country
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uh in writing after the constitution about where the second amendment came from
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didn't say that we should have the right to keep and bear arms so that we could go get a deer and feed the family
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they specifically stated we had the right to keep and bear arms so that if the government with its
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military got out of hand and tried to suppress the constitution of civilians they could take control back because the
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the the government was supposed to lie in the hands of the of the people
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now not that i believe that the people are smart enough to handle themselves because they're not otherwise we wouldn't have had the last
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several presidents that we've had we'd have actually had senators and congressmen thrown out because they
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wouldn't they wouldn't do for us what was necessary and the centers and congressmen had no
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option because we had so many splinter groups that they
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had to keep satisfied that they couldn't do what was necessary for the people as they were charged to
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do is there anything you can say on record about a recent congressional session that you attended
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uh yes uh probably better not said
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okay but there just note that there was uh the third my understanding it was the third ever
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closed session of congress okay einstein and
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it is on google so yeah i think that many things have leaked out about it on google uh you know we found that no
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matter where the politician was and what committee he was on
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when top secret things were talked about they wanted to close a session early so
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they could get out and put their tips out to the to the new so uh
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we don't have any uh confidentiality in that so it leaked out i'm sure and am i right in
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assuming that you wouldn't contradict those leaks i wouldn't contradict them at all thank you but where are they told to weren't some
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of them getting out of the country to relocate in south america ask them that that's my understanding because george
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green has given us testimony to that effect yeah i that's my understanding that uh
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a number of them to a number of them felt that uh
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once the people found out what had been done to them by their representatives
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they felt that it would be much better for their health and safety to be somewhere else
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[Music] and that kind of says it all do you know
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anything or suspect anything about once the financial system fails if
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it does so what would it be replaced by well uh up until a few days ago i would say
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it would have been replaced by a a world currency remember the last four
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presidents have all been members of the council of foreign relations and are you know have openly
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stated that they're moving toward a one-world government
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and believe we should have a one-world government if we had a one-world government we'd probably have a one-world currency
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and it might even be they were smart enough to have a currency that was backed by something real like gold or silver or various metals i've always
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wanted to see a commodity-backed currency so you could have a currency that was worth so much corn or so much wheat or
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or so much something that was a real tangible thing up until a few days ago you said up
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until a few days ago what changed uh what changed was my understanding is now that there
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well the nafta and gad agreements uh basically put us into a
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a system where we had mexico united states and canada
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almost as one government with three parts and there was going to be you know it's
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been highly rumored that there was a printed currency available pictures available on the
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internet et cetera et cetera because there's nothing that's a secret anymore uh
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that would uh have currency different colors and different sizes for different denominations
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and was to be called something like the amero for north america uh
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it's been rumored that that currency is being destroyed now and replaced by another
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u.s currency that is being printed and that would make a
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lot of sense because there's so much
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well the money that's being printed is funny money because it's backed on nothing but also
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there's been so much counterfeiting especially out of iran and so you can look at some of our
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politics with iran having to do with nuclear proliferation and so much
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of it having to do with the fact that they have uh good printing presses and good duplicators of paper and ink
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and there's been a tremendous amount of currency that we know has moved here from iran that are counterfeit and it's rampant
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yeah many people watching this video will be aware of what david ike has been talking about um
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and we spoke to him at length earlier on this year and one of the drums that he's been beating is about
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what he feels is the danger of the population being chipped as a means of
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control which is going to be linked with their their ability to
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operate financially at all can you comment on that at all there are a number of things to lead one
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to believe that they are going to be shipping people around there are a number of places that uh
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there's no explanation for but very large concentration camps have sprung up
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uh one of them very near where i live here that's very large sized and uh
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on the other hand i was involved back in the 70s
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with a very large food and feed company to build
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chips that could be used on prize cattle and breeding cattle for example and show
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cattle to geo-locate them or to identify them
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and that technology has now been reduced down to things that can be injected through a hypodermic needle and in the
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body and identify people and the currency
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that i heard about uh that was to be a one-world currency was based on being
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chipped and the the credits if you would would go on to and off of that ship by a method
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similar to bluetooth that's used today and this is technology which you yourself have helped develop is that
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what i heard well it's technology that develops some of the early things and it's technology
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which in its smaller implementation i'm using right now in a product
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uh that i'm in the process of building for uh
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geolocation and anti-theft because uh there's so many people being kidnapped
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and there's uh and sacrificed for their organs or being kidnapped and held for ransom
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not the least of which is around uh mogadishu area and in the mediterranean
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but also uh uh even in mexico a tremendous number of people being
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kidnapped for ransom they're both their own people and visitors there's a problem tracking containers problem tracking c-line containers as
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well why is it important to track these containers well
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there are around 10 000 containers a day coming into the country that are never physically inspected
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and we know that weapons of mass destruction
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though this is not totally announced but we know weapons of mass destruction are coming into those containers we know
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terrorists are coming in in those containers because we see the evidence of it afterward and
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thank god the government has uh you know picked up a lot of these things later but uh
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the the containers uh and a lot of them are shipping contraband a lot of them are shipping
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you know we saw the dog food come in that was laced with uh melamine uh because it wasn't inspected now
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we just did a tape change here and just before that little interlude david was very
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keen to ask pete about his view about um how can we transform these danger
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signs into something that is a healthy warning to us and what sorts of proactive
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positive thinking responsible actions can we take without just blindfolding ourselves and
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ignoring whatever real risks that might be there now this is my bridge because i want david to ask his own question this is one of the reasons
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why he's here with us we have a huge respect for david his intellect his perspective his experience and david this is all
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yours you want to talk to to pete about this very important thing here
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sure uh what i wanted to say was just that i have a perspective which includes
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documenting my dreams every day for the last 17 years following their guidance getting accurate
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information from that guidance yesterday morning while we were talking about all these things i had a dream in which
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there was a volcanic eruption it looked terrifying there were rocks flying into the air and everybody
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around me thought we were all going to die we ran under these trees the rocks fell all around us
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but we were all fine nobody was actually hurt by it obviously it was a disaster
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obviously it caused property damage but the people were okay and that's one of many different
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varieties of data that i've gotten to suggest that even though things look like they could be really
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austere and apocalyptic that humanity will persevere through this and
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that we will be able to uh have a positive outcome on our own future and
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that this is not a situation that's completely outside of our ability to manage
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well david you had a question that you asked me just before the break and we i think
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there's i think we're going to agree to agree but go ahead and ask that question again
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or or may make that statement again it was a very good question it was about prior warnings not having come to pass
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and therefore why should we be concerned yeah let me let me give you some prelude to that i spoke with another witness who was
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involved in various compartmentalized projects one in particular uh which was at the
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montauk base and he had extensive contact with people on the inside and one of the things that he said was
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that the superdomes were built in all the major cities were intended to be large holding containers for people to be
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herded in and he said that there was a plan that the rodney king riots
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would foment enough social upheaval that they would be able to actually round up black people who were riding in the
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cities and put them inside these domes and basically keep them in there until they passed away
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and that was a plan that was made and it obviously did not happen and so we've heard from many project
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camelot witnesses similar plans timelines in which the powers that be
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whoever they are say apocalyptic things are going to happen the dates come strange things happen yes
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but it doesn't lead to uh an apocalypse scenario so in private conversation with
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us you had mentioned that there were other dates that came and went where they had said something like this might happen they told you some
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friends of yours inside told you something like that and then it didn't actually turn into a social breakdown
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yes okay i did say that and so the question is
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well the question is in terms of you had mentioned before
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that people have uh a conditioning to not think and a conditioning of mind control
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and you said that there is a degradation in the moral fabric of our society so i think what we really need to know
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on a personal level is what what can we do
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to help ourselves not be indoctrinated by this passive programming that's
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coming out to us and you mentioned aversions of mind control and things like that i think that's an important key
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to not getting stuck in this in this trap i moved here because i was told by
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various people that i should geolocate and be in an area that would be safe when we eventually got a financial and
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therefore political collapse and so there are certain things that i've done to
1:00:12
make sure that myself and my family and my friends are safe from that the question that they would just ask is
1:00:19
a little bit different having to do with the fact that numerous ones of us have heard
1:00:26
a bit apocalyptic things in the future ranging from uh the fact that uh supposedly in the
1:00:32
year uh 2011 or 2012 the we have the end of the mayan calendar
1:00:37
and we have an apocalypse coming uh people who are uh apocalyptic christians
1:00:45
say about the same thing that the end times are here are coming uh we've heard very
1:00:51
very dire things about the economic posture of the united states and the whole world and we see things happening we see
1:00:59
things we see iceland for example declaring uh bankruptcy and i hear from people that i
1:01:06
know in the banking system that a number of the
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european states are going to follow them in bankruptcy and when the
1:01:18
u.s currency fails which i can't imagine that it won't because we've printed so much currency
1:01:24
and put out there that's backed by nothing it's all beginning to come home and roost the t-bills and the
1:01:29
bonds are coming back to us and i you know i can't see what's going to
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happen what was going to happen there we have the huge collapse that when uh before
1:01:41
the current president took office uh 16 million dollars was going to solve
1:01:46
all the problem and please get this bill through and we can take 16 million dollars and put it out in and
1:01:52
it barely passed and we got that through and then the seemed like three
1:01:57
weeks later we didn't know where the 16 billion dollars was even supposed to go or what for because they passed the bill without
1:02:03
even knowing what was going to happen that 16 billion dollars disappeared immediately and now all of a sudden we
1:02:10
needed seven or nine trillion dollars and then we needed 20 you know and so we don't have any idea
1:02:16
where that went and so uh the things we've heard in the
1:02:21
past about there going to be a failure uh the time came and left and there
1:02:26
wasn't a failure but there was this money was pumped somewhere and of course the system had a lot more inertia
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than we anticipated so uh now what we have is something that's
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that the actuality is coming to roost i drive around in the the town that i i live nearby the large
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town that's about 50 miles south of me and uh drive around there and i look in the
1:02:54
little malls and i look in the big malls the big mall has closed we only had one mall in the town and
1:03:00
it's a gross population nearly a minute well 750 000 people
1:03:05
and the one mall that we had the the people had them all failed and went bankrupt and it's closed uh all
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the stores that sell non-essential items jewelry stores bed and bath stores etc
1:03:18
most of them have closed uh sporting goods stores most of them have closed what you're saying is that we haven't
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been here before so we haven't really ever been here before you know we've heard that things are going to
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happen things are going to fail but you know life continued on as normal
1:03:34
when the government continued to print money and pass it out to its friends and and so forth and so therefore
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we're in a bit different set of circumstances i moved here in 1999 because i was told by 2001
1:03:49
that the system was going to fail and here we are eight years later or nine years later i
1:03:54
thought you were ordered to come here i was and so we found out that no it didn't it didn't fail
1:04:00
but and i'd go for a briefing and just be a shock we don't understand it we don't have any idea why it hasn't failed
1:04:07
i mean we just don't know the only thing we can do is say there was so much inertia
1:04:13
and and uh so now it's beginning to fail and it isn't just beginning to fail it's
1:04:18
increasing on a logarithmic scale and very shortly uh i see that it just
1:04:25
about has to do that which then brings us back to the first question that david asked us before the
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break was was you know what do i see that we could offer the listeners out there uh something
1:04:38
that they might do and i can say well in my personal opinion and what i've done i put
1:04:43
my money and my talent my skills and in my uh abilities where my mouth is
1:04:51
i've come here and i'm self-sufficient i grow my all my own meat all my own vegetables i have stored up
1:04:59
those things that are going to be critical to society i picked up the tools that i didn't have
1:05:04
that allow me to do things in in a such an environment in such a society
1:05:10
to produce things that are going to be necessary for people to have and you can even make your own radio and
1:05:15
probably feel your own truck exactly right and i have a number of vehicles that i
1:05:22
now have uh engines that will burn alcohol i have the equipment and i have the seeds and i have the tractor and i have
1:05:28
the land and i have the water to grow material that i can make alcohol from at
1:05:34
a much larger rate than i need now a lot of people listening to this will say
1:05:39
but i'm in the middle of a big city and i've got a wife and a mortgage and two kids who are at school and i hear what you're saying but what can i do
1:05:45
i'm not in that situation well i i've taught survival for better than 40 years
1:05:51
and my particular area of expertise in survival was urban survival
1:05:58
and i was asked to write a book about urban survival and i started the book out
1:06:04
and i can tell you that and we got into that a little bit earlier i can tell you that today there isn't any such thing as
1:06:10
urban survival who knows their neighbors in in
1:06:16
29 people knew their neighbors and they had i think a morality now the ethic and morality has been taken away from the
1:06:21
children and the children now in their 20s and 30s the community's gone the community is gone we don't have a community that
1:06:28
would do that and we have people that have children
1:06:33
and now some of them have a couple children what are you going to do when your kids say daddy i have my tummy hurts i haven't had anything to
1:06:39
eat for two weeks and you smell the next door neighbor over there who was a white squirrel and put
1:06:45
something up and you smell him out on his barbecue because he's got no no power but charcoal cooking a couple
1:06:52
of freeze-dried steaks and you have to ask yourself what would that person do
1:06:57
okay but there are a lot of psychological operations that have been put in place in preparation for all of this and there's a mental
1:07:04
self-defense or mental preparation emotional preparation spiritual preparation
1:07:09
is there something that you can speak to what about that whatever people's circumstances i i will do that but first
1:07:16
i want to suggest that uh take a look at the things that have just the things that have happened
1:07:22
forget the political economic situation let's take a look at things that have happened in this
1:07:28
country over the last say four or five years you've got the debacle that occurred in
1:07:33
new orleans and then you've got the next debacle that occurred in texas and in mississippi and you got to see
1:07:40
that no all those people couldn't leave town because they got out on the freeway and the freeway was jammed and everybody got stopped and they ran out of gas and
1:07:47
there wasn't any gas the people that owned the service stations left to get out of town also so there wasn't anything for the service
1:07:52
stations you look at new orleans it was uh i knew people that were getting water to new
1:07:58
orleans that had been been ordered a year uh it was a year
1:08:04
until it got delivered there were people who got thousands and thousands of trailer houses that were
1:08:09
stuck in the midwest and never got shipped down there nobody got to use them but by the time they got where they
1:08:14
could have put them down there the things that already decayed and they found out they were made with the wrong materials and they were out gaffing
1:08:21
toxic things was how well the government was prepared for that and they saw it
1:08:26
coming and saw it coming and saw it coming nothing happened then you look at the people that live along the mississippi river
1:08:32
and it's feeding tributaries and they've had floods virtually every year and
1:08:37
every year they have floods and they go back and rebuild their houses with lots of insurance money and then they have floods the next year
1:08:44
we have uh the weather is changing uh and i i think it's changing to the
1:08:50
colder rather than the than the warmer but uh anyway the
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weather is changing very definitely uh it's changing right here where i live tremendously so
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and uh the last couple winters we've had two to three times the snow that we had the previous 10 years and
1:09:09
then we've had water from it the major major water problems we had droughts for a number of years and i
1:09:16
lived near a huge huge reservoir that holds enough land to irrigate the whole southern state a year
1:09:24
or two and it's been absolutely dry in the bottom and hardly a trickle and now it's clear full
1:09:29
and spilling over so in summary you're saying that as a scientist as an ex and as an intelligent man as somebody
1:09:36
who's well connected on the inside with other scientists and other intelligent men you think that there's a real problem i
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think that there's a major real problem and i think that that people who don't see that and don't realize that
1:09:50
simply have have put blinders on and i think that what they should do is think you know maybe there's something
1:09:57
to this but at least we see that in major areas of the country there
1:10:02
have been problems where people needed to have a little supply of food left because they couldn't get to a store
1:10:08
they need to have things that if they have to leave their home like in the area that i'm in
1:10:15
and in california especially and in other states especially there have been major major uh fires
1:10:22
uh that have gone on people have been moved out of their homes and and when they left home they came back
1:10:27
and they're crying on television oh everything's gone everything's gone and yet some of those people went to
1:10:33
survival lectures that i gave and they had copies of their driver's license copies of their marriage license
1:10:39
copies of their insurance papers copies of all the things they needed to have copies of
1:10:45
they had extras of all the children's pictures and extras of the journals and so forth
1:10:50
put away in another location and these are things that people can do
1:10:55
to assure continuity even though there may be something come california we hear
1:11:00
predictions about earthquakes all the time and we see earthquakes all the time and some are small and some are larger
1:11:07
but we hear the people that actually are predicting those things predicting very large earthquakes they don't know what's going
1:11:14
to be next year or the year after but they know it's going to come they know it's going to be large they know people are going to lose things
1:11:20
why don't these people have what's called a bug out bag in their car where they can take off and leave the
1:11:26
area the government says oh you only need to have three days storage but we look at where the government's
1:11:31
come in uh time after time after time over the last just the last four or five years and found out the government didn't have
1:11:37
anything for them they had to fend for themselves and it was months sometimes before they before
1:11:44
they had uh effort come in uh it's very interesting to to to
1:11:50
understand when i teach a survival class one of the things i do is right at the beginning of the class i
1:11:55
put a uh put a velvet bag over people's head
1:12:03
and then i tell them i'm gonna place a ten dollar gold piece somewhere in the room and have you all look for it and
1:12:10
whoever finds it gets to keep it and so i do that and then i say okay go look
1:12:16
for it and immediately someone says oh here it is i have it i found it and everybody takes it back and
1:12:23
said well that's no fair he didn't have a hood on and i say okay so let's say that there's
1:12:28
a big earthquake or a big emergency and if you don't have a way of
1:12:34
communicating because the cell phones are going to be down the radio stations are going to be down
1:12:40
if you don't have a way of communicating outside of those it's like having a bag over here you're not going to know what roads are
1:12:46
blocked you're not going to know what roads have uh police that are not allowing people to
1:12:52
go through you're not going to have gasoline in your car
1:12:57
if you had a a shortwave radio or an amateur radio which are very inexpensive
1:13:04
you could listen to the radio amateurs who are going to be immediately there because that's what they're set up for
1:13:10
that's what they're trained to do and if you had an amateur radio license which anybody can get these days
1:13:17
you it's like you had eyes you can see where where to go where the where there's problems where
1:13:23
they're not problems whether riots where they're not riots and uh carry on and go there if you had
1:13:30
a bug out bag in your car you'd have gas and fuel and medical supplies and and things to keep you warm things to
1:13:38
keep you cool all packed up ready to go just a small bag
1:13:43
so there are a number of things that one could do to uh become aware but there's a lot that has
1:13:49
been done to dumb down the population and how can you how can this
1:14:00
reversed how can that be aided and i want to make sure that david gets a chance to answer his own questions what
1:14:05
i'm trying to do is to support you in that and i want to give you air time here
1:14:12
there is a compartment of reality that we can talk about in which people are on this planet and there are
1:14:18
forces that appear to be almost outside their control to do anything about other than as you said
1:14:24
preparations for the sake of survival then we also have another context which
1:14:30
is that you are apparently directly aware of extraterrestrials who are not
1:14:37
strictly negative in fact you mentioned to us before that a lot of them are positive and we know they're out there we know
1:14:43
they're visiting us and while i don't believe they're going to just come down and save us from
1:14:49
problems there appears to be a greater reality that we are all involved in and that
1:14:54
this uh situation my understanding is the situations we're going through are
1:15:01
going to be instrumental in helping to purge the negative influences on this planet that have been prevailing for so long
1:15:07
not make them worse there will be a certainly a crisis time that we go through but that's part of a passage
1:15:13
into a more organized and enlightened society that's how it's been explained by many
1:15:19
different accurate sources in my opinion including ancient prophecies to speak of the coming of a golden age
1:15:25
well one of the things that i did in studying survival was i went to numerous places on the face of the earth where
1:15:30
there were survival type things taking place whether it be genocide in africa whether it be
1:15:37
eruption of volcanoes whether it be tornadoes and tsunamis i've gone to those places studying survival
1:15:45
and i know one thing there's one person i can rely on and that's me
1:15:51
and all the rest is conjecture i found out that uh the people that
1:15:58
survived were the people that were prepared and some were prepared mentally and that's the major preparation that you could do
1:16:05
but i know that when you believe in other people that may or may not happen but if you
1:16:10
believe in yourself and follow up it does happen and you don't have any worry and i found
1:16:17
out that a few days or a few hours or even a few minutes can be the difference between life and death
1:16:24
and uh so i would just assume spend a little time and a little effort a little more money and be able to take
1:16:30
care of myself and and my people and uh if if other things happen so much the
1:16:37
better i have things i can share with others yeah i don't i don't dispute that at all
1:16:43
in fact i am very well prepared for eventualities in myself
1:16:50
we also project camelot have interviewed enough different witnesses that we are trying to look at the big picture
1:16:56
perspective and i do believe that we have an intelligently guided
1:17:02
uh planet i do believe that that the things that happen on the planet are not random and i do believe that society itself is
1:17:09
going through an evolutionary process and a lot of the things that you shared with us already off the record
1:17:16
revealed that there are potentials of the human being much greater than what we currently understand you've also
1:17:22
suggested that there are efforts to suppress our natural ability that have been put
1:17:28
in place and i think that while absolutely preparing is important
1:17:35
i think anything you can tell us about how people can strengthen their intuitive faculty so they have an ability to get in touch
1:17:42
with that part of themselves that does have the knowledge you've mentioned remote viewing before too there
1:17:48
if if they have some way something you can share with us a way in which people can greater empower themselves to the
1:17:55
greater awareness that they actually possess and how that could help them through these transitional times
1:18:01
i think that would be important to hear well actually strangely enough we we really
1:18:07
agree uh and i think we're both saying that one should do both
1:18:13
because then you don't have to rely on anything you don't have to rely on somebody else and that's the problem we that
1:18:20
what's been taken out of people over the last 20 years is responsibility people have to take
1:18:28
responsibility and if you look at the over the over the millennia the people that we've
1:18:35
considered major major prophets such as the prophets of of uh mohammedanism
1:18:43
prophets of christianity prophets of uh
1:18:50
records such as nostradamus and so forth uh every one of those and and all the
1:18:57
religions have said uh you know take responsibility and prepare
1:19:04
yourself and it's the things that david's talking about to prepare are exactly correct
1:19:10
people should have those skills they should go out and and practice those and i know that uh
1:19:18
that your group has been superb in providing evidence and providing a website that's
1:19:25
a fantastic website where they can go and look and find out people that are
1:19:30
talking about such things people are saying such things i'm basically a warrior because that's
1:19:37
that's kind of my path and i've noticed that there isn't anybody out there in this world that's
1:19:42
taking care of me except me and uh that's not necessarily true
1:19:48
because the knowledge the intellect the experience the vast experience that i
1:19:54
have has been handed to me on a silver platter it's like i
1:19:59
stuck my hand in the air to volunteer and got a kick up in my rotator cuff and my hand just stayed up and i ended up
1:20:05
volunteering for everything and uh everybody thought i was
1:20:10
volunteering and so i got stuck into a number of different things but none of it as i look back on it was by
1:20:16
accident and i know that there are a number of people that were
1:20:23
students of mine that were in uh new orleans that were in
1:20:28
the gulf area of texas that were in the river areas in ohio
1:20:35
and nebraska and so forth and in tennessee and i know that all of them
1:20:42
when the time came just simply threw a bag in the back of their car and headed out and they were fine and all our family records were preserved and all
1:20:49
our family jewels and things everybody knew where they were they're all in one place through the car off they went the car
1:20:54
was full of gas with a little trailer with a couple gas cans and a tent and uh they were fine and i'm just
1:21:02
suggesting that that is a very wise thing to do and they at the day like today whether whether
1:21:08
the profits of doom are correct or whether they're not correct let's say you put aside five months
1:21:13
worth of food well go take a look at the prices in the store on the prices five months ago and
1:21:19
tell me you wouldn't like to buy five months ago food or today's food at five months ago is prices
1:21:26
you know it's better it's better than any investment you could have made it's better than any stock i know of it's
1:21:31
even better than gold and if and if a disaster comes
1:21:36
uh it's going to be worth far more than gold because it'll save your life or where gold will just get you robbed
1:21:43
or silver and it's by tell people if you're gonna save gold for crying out loud save some silver
1:21:49
because if we have a collapse when it comes uh you know get yourself a wheelbarrow and
1:21:57
if you come to my place and want a loaf of bread and you've got an ounce of of gold that's worth at that time two
1:22:02
thousand dollars i'll swap it for a loaf of bread if you got a quarter that by that time
1:22:10
is worth three dollars a non-numismatic silver quarter i'll swap it for a loaf of bread
1:22:15
take your pick right so uh there there are things that people
1:22:20
can do to do that and there are things that they can do i would there are a number of remote viewing courses and many of them are very good
1:22:27
i'd suggest you do remote viewing but i said besides rope remote viewing i know one thing it's certain i can take
1:22:33
my little ham radio and i can pick it up and i can call on the ham radio repeater and i say what's
1:22:38
the what's the traffic like on route 17 going out through palmdale and somebody's going to say oh all the
1:22:44
cars are stopped and they're not letting people through or they're going to say oh the traffic's flowing just fine and i know that's the
1:22:50
direction to get out of you know get out of town sure a lot of people would want us to ask
1:22:57
this question it's almost a matter of duty and that is how much does obama know about all of this in your opinion
1:23:04
uh that's that's a strange question uh i can't
1:23:11
imagine anyone accepting the job of president with the current situation
1:23:17
i can't imagine that so in that respect i have to say he can't be very intelligent
1:23:24
on the other hand he's an intelligent man he certainly is an intelligent speaker
1:23:29
and of course he was a debate uh king if you would uh and i know that
1:23:36
when he got his first briefing because i had friends that were present
1:23:41
uh said that he was so shocked that he had to sit down
1:23:47
when he found out what really was happening this was before he took the office now i think that
1:23:55
he's found himself in a in a river that's flooded and headed south and he's
1:24:02
got a little boat with no oars and he's steep canyon wolves and steve canyon walls and he's just paddling with
1:24:08
his hands as fast as he can paddle and trying to do the very best job that he can he's
1:24:14
has a few really good people around him and i don't think that he i really don't
1:24:20
believe he has a hint how to stop what's happening i don't think he has a hint how to stop
1:24:25
the flood because it's behind him and it's coming on and he's being driven by it and there's not much he can do
1:24:32
now speaking about having good people with him just using that turn of phrase would you
1:24:39
confirm that there are good people who we have euphemistically called the white hats
1:24:45
in the government and the intelligence and in the military who themselves are patriots as you are and who are trying to do their best from the inside to
1:24:51
avert these things absolutely there are there are many people that left the military most of the good people left during
1:24:57
clinton and bush because they couldn't pledge allegiance to the president because of the things that were being done
1:25:04
so many people left on the other hand there were many people that stayed behind because they knew they were going to be
1:25:10
needed and they sacrificed not principle but they they had a higher knowledge
1:25:18
and stayed behind so that they could apply the knowledge that they had when the time came that's where they thought they would be
1:25:24
most that's where they thought they would be most valuable and they were the true patriots because they
1:25:30
they did what was best for the people rather than what was best for themselves and these are the people who are keeping
1:25:35
you informed sometimes some of those people or the people are keeping me informed i understand i mean it's it's more that
1:25:42
they're keeping me informed because uh they call me for ideas and i'm
1:25:48
kind of an idea man and they call me and ask me what what might we do here and what might we
1:25:54
do there because you're above all a problem solver and a technological i'm i'm basically a problem solver
1:25:59
do you think there's ever going to be a disclosure that any of this stuff about ufos or other races not born on earth
1:26:07
would ever get out to the public well i think uh it's interesting
1:26:13
um i've been told that uh a number of the uh apocalypse films that have come out
1:26:20
recently and a number of the science fiction things that have come out recently as
1:26:26
movies have been partially funded by the government wanting to to get familiar in our minds
1:26:34
the idea there might be people that could come and help us there might be some kind of divine
1:26:40
providence that would would help as well and uh i i've heard
1:26:48
kind of through the grapevine that i know that reagan was asked and
1:26:56
asked to disclose such things the truth about flying saucers and alien people i know
1:27:02
the jfk was asked those things and said he would do something and i know there was pressure to put to bear
1:27:08
on both of them to say nothing i know that the current president
1:27:15
i don't know this i have heard that the current president was planning to uh make such announcements later in the
1:27:22
year or late in the year and uh whether you're willing to say the date
1:27:27
when you you and that i know date i was told and i can tell you
1:27:33
the same people that told me that date told me that the u.s currency would fail in 2001 when they ordered me to move here okay
1:27:40
so who knows who knows what's going to happen but i've heard that uh that his desire and it i may be wrong
1:27:48
i don't know i've heard it through the grapevine the man hasn't told me himself and he's under orders isn't he he's he's
1:27:56
he's just my my feeling is that we haven't had a president since uh right after george washington
1:28:03
that wasn't under orders from someone else and if you go back and take a look at it it's pretty obvious
1:28:09
and then if the guy doesn't obey those orders then he may find himself in trouble they find himself in trouble
1:28:15
you want to want to talk about who who's behind him at all i really don't okay well about
1:28:21
the announcement though you were working up to an announcement you were saying that he may announce something
1:28:27
at the end of the year what would that be what does your grapevine tell you my grapevine tells me that he was going to
1:28:33
announce that that there are indeed such things as flying saucers
1:28:40
and there is indeed uh technology transfer and there is indeed uh uh beings behind
1:28:46
it that didn't come from this uh this planet and how many different kinds
1:28:52
i i you know we're getting into speculation here that i understand you know whether the person
1:28:59
that told me would know i have no idea whether the president would know i have
1:29:04
no idea whether he leave and no i have no idea sure but a number of them more than more
1:29:10
than uh say three or four good and then if you go well again if you go back and look at
1:29:16
the the number of people who seem to have seen such people
1:29:22
uh you know you get a you get kind of a well there's a reptilian type and
1:29:27
there's a a long face type and a round face type and a tall type and a short type and
1:29:34
uh but you get it isn't just like one person said this and one person says that it's 50 people in the u.s and
1:29:40
20 people in germany and 300 people in brazil and 80 people in africa say this yeah and then for the next bunch there's
1:29:47
uh maybe 40 or 50 in russia and 25 or 30 in germany and you know you
1:29:52
can't discount all of those things when from totally disparate regions that have no
1:29:58
real communication and people have no real communication with each other you hear people doing exact descriptions
1:30:04
yeah and large amounts of exact descriptions and tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands reporting contact
1:30:11
with the little guys with the almond-shaped eyes and the big heads right who who many people say are responsible
1:30:17
for abductions do you know anything about that at all all i know is that i've talked to a
1:30:22
number of those people and many of them seem to me to be very
1:30:27
credible many of them seem to me to have read somebody else's report and then they wanted to be in the thing and made it up
1:30:34
okay are any of these abductions military operations i wouldn't have any idea you don't know okay
1:30:40
look i can't see why the dollar didn't crash in 2001.
1:30:45
absolutely couldn't see why it didn't crash because it was backed with nothing and
1:30:51
it was inertia in my opinion it was inertia only that carried it on and sure there were a lot of
1:30:57
there were a lot of people uh behind the scenes manipulating various things
1:31:02
you saw how they manipulated billions and billions of dollars that didn't even
1:31:07
not only were bogus dollars and not ie dollars that were printed with nothing behind them dollars that didn't even exist i mean
1:31:14
people people fail to look at this fact if if if let's say and we'll use just round
1:31:21
figures let's say that there's a thousand dollars issued okay who issues the dollars the
1:31:28
fed issues of dollars totally outside of the constitution as far as i'm concerned the dollar the fed issues a thousand
1:31:35
dollars let's say they they then rent those dollars to the bank what does the bank do the bank rents
1:31:42
those dollars out to people so they can buy a car or a home whatever and they say we'll rent this out to you
1:31:48
and it'll be at five percent interest now what that means is they've taken a
1:31:54
thousand and they can if they have a thousand dollars the banks are allowed to loan out
1:31:59
seventeen thousand dollars so you have let's say you have ten
1:32:05
percent interest on seventeen thousand dollars so now that's ten thousand dollars plus
1:32:11
another seven thousand dollars where does the seven thousand dollars come from to pay it back
1:32:17
it wasn't ever issued it didn't ever exist how can they pay back more than there
1:32:23
ever was and people don't understand the the the concept of
1:32:28
you know fiat money yeah it will be many videos on the on
1:32:34
google that people can watch on this very subject and get educated yeah absolutely and the problem is that
1:32:41
people have been taught if you just stick your head in the sand
1:32:46
and don't look it isn't going to bite you and keep on watching american idol and you'll be all right and keep on watching
1:32:53
american idol and keep on going to the movies and keep on you know whatever i'd like to say one
1:33:00
thing there is footage that you can see of an announcement that rumsfeld made on
1:33:05
september 10th 2001 about money that was lost
1:33:11
in the military budget to the tune of 2.3 trillion dollars the day before september 11 so is that
1:33:18
in any way related to what you're talking about with the year 2001 uh probably is and there are a number of
1:33:26
other things let's look what happened in september 11th uh a
1:33:32
a building that wasn't even involved crashed to the ground and in the basement of it was
1:33:39
stored a massive amount of gold it was never found
1:33:45
okay never found and why would that building fall down not even ashes fell on it it was out of
1:33:50
the wind pattern right where did that money go and why did that building fall down
1:33:57
well do you know the answer uh well i i think i know the answer but i don't know that i'm
1:34:04
convenient with giving that answer because you know i don't want to prompt somebody
1:34:10
to go look for it because i know what but i feel they'd find i think what they probably find is an early grave
1:34:17
by now people watching this video will understand why we were so keen to introduce pete to this
1:34:25
audience and will understand what we were saying when we referred to 12 hours of off-record conversation yesterday that we haven't
1:34:31
even begun to bottom out even even so and what we're able to provide here is only a very short
1:34:37
summary of some of the things which which pete knows and so with apologies we're going to
1:34:43
move on because we've only got a certain amount of time in a certain amount of tape to other areas because there's an
1:34:48
extraordinary amount of of experience and information which you may want to share
1:34:54
and let me first of all ask you if you're willing to share any of your experience about working
1:34:59
with russian scientists and in what capacity you did that uh yes i'd be more than happy to do that
1:35:10
some of it at least after the fall of the wall
1:35:21
went to russia and uh worked with a number of uh top
1:35:28
scientists there in that were involved in their space program and you went to russia let me say
1:35:34
euphemistically in a professional capacity yeah in a professional capacity and i
1:35:39
i came by invitation uh and went there uh one of the things we did was we took
1:35:48
and i i'm going to use russia in general terms meaning the old soviet union i went to various
1:35:54
the uss various countries that were at one time part of the ussr and i was there for example when the
1:36:01
ukraine declared their independence and i knew the man who was the first
1:36:12
so we we took out of the ussr a lot of technology that had been
1:36:20
pent up and brought back and donated it to the government here and
1:36:27
i got to see brilliant brilliant brilliant technology that we
1:36:33
some we knew about some we had and some we didn't have uh specifically in material science
1:36:40
uh and in things that could be used to generate alternative energy new ways of building
1:36:48
motors new types of materials for building motors and spacecraft
1:36:55
motors and spacecraft new ways of storing electricity and
1:37:02
capacitors which would be very handy in making
1:37:07
electric automobiles meaning that you could take all the energy that normally is sent to the air
1:37:13
as heat and braking and put that energy into a capacitor device which would then bleed
1:37:22
off into a battery and recharge the battery the car to a certain extent
1:37:28
did the technology behind the aurora come from the russians no that technology was invented
1:37:33
specifically right here in the united states by a uh scientist that i in my
1:37:39
memory work for general dynamics for a period of time and probably work for rocketdyne or
1:37:45
general atomic for a period of time remember general atomic was highly
1:37:50
disturbed when lyndon johnson refused to give them any more government contracts unless they moved from san
1:37:56
diego to texas but the aurora has been mothballed anyway because that's a that's a little
1:38:01
hygienic i would assume that okay but uh it was a technology where you
1:38:08
spray gas out through a a surface and then explode the gas mix it with oxygen and explode it and it
1:38:16
was like it's like push shooting a uh a pumpkin seed
1:38:21
the pressure external uh would push against it and and
1:38:27
push it forward at very high rates of speed okay very efficient okay so um
1:38:35
that was our 60 second sound bite about the aurora which is worth an interview in itself but go back to what do you feel that we
1:38:42
learned from the russians because we had some fascinating conversations about this well
1:38:48
we learned an awful lot about material science there was a man by name of uh i am frenchovic
1:38:55
that was a believer in quantum physics and so he wouldn't hire anybody this was
1:39:01
in the late 50s or mid 50s he wouldn't hire anybody for his institute that didn't
1:39:08
that didn't absolutely believe in quantum physics so a lot of the work they did was based on quantum physics and we hadn't
1:39:14
quite decided whether that was real or not and whether whether it was real or not they came up with a lot of things that
1:39:20
were very interesting additionally they were doing a lot of research work in
1:39:27
such areas as remote viewing and telekinesis and such things and we learned a lot we
1:39:35
brought a number of people out from there that taught us things and this was a very
1:39:41
interesting thing and happened in the soviet union if you look at their government it's
1:39:47
kind of a three branch party system that
1:39:52
uh you have the people from industry the people from government and the people from the uh
1:40:00
political pedagogy that uh so that the vote to get the full vote
1:40:08
you had to have someone vote that it wasn't in violation of stalinist lenin's political dogma and a lot of science was
1:40:16
definitely outside of stalinist leninist political dogma
1:40:21
and therefore the scientists were very frustrated and so there was a lot of information they were willing to give
1:40:27
out because their government had told them it was baloney anyway so why not give it
1:40:32
away they wanted to see their ideas and thoughts utilized and secondly there were a lot
1:40:38
of them that one way or another snuck out and came to work for the west and brought a lot of very good
1:40:46
information including a lot of the very basic things that were happening
1:40:51
in what we'll call uh psychic phenomena or mental talents
1:40:58
it really isn't that it's actually uh it's actually a definite science and there's a lot of technology that's
1:41:05
behind it and we hear a lot of stories about that from the government a lot of past history that's much of
1:41:12
disinformation and we're told that well we learned a few things from it but it wasn't
1:41:18
wasn't particularly good and i think that that's very wrong because i know it's particularly very good
1:41:24
and i can't imagine that they're not using that kind of technology additionally we learned a tremendous
1:41:31
amount of things about outer space technology we learned a lot
1:41:37
about the amount of radiation that you find in outside the
1:41:42
ionosphere and the problems that that causes we had some problems with our early
1:41:48
astronauts because we we didn't know what was there and
1:41:54
noticed there were several lulls in our space program as we found out new things and then geared up
1:42:00
to take into account the malevolence of outer space
1:42:06
and you know out of that came a lot of conjecture that there was way too much radiation for us to have had people in
1:42:14
outer space and one of the things that very much interested me was when the
1:42:20
mir space station was crashing and they were worried about the fact that it had a little radioactive material on it that
1:42:25
might cause problems on earth and they didn't know exactly where it was going to fall
1:42:31
but one of the things the soviets announced and my one of the things i do is i listen to
1:42:36
shortwave because when you listen to shortwave you hear about the same event the same people the same place the same
1:42:43
time and a completely different story of what went on there so the press in the united states is uh
1:42:51
either completely ignorant or it's completely controlled as far as i can tell but
1:42:57
one of the things the soviets did was announce the weight of the mir station and when you look at that weight you
1:43:03
find out it was about 5 600 shuttle loads of material and
1:43:08
they didn't launch that much we didn't launch that much and so why would the weir mirror weigh
1:43:14
as much as it did and the explanation is which you can find out for yourself if you
1:43:20
merely take a sensitive geiger counter on a plane flight is how much radiation is up there just at 30
1:43:26
000 feet and you're allowed one one or two chest x-rays a year you get a
1:43:31
chest x-ray every two or three minutes and out there uh you know that was a
1:43:37
problem if you look at some of the some of the symptoms or problems some of the early astronauts had you'd realize
1:43:43
that it probably was radiation poisoning how did the mass that was that constituted all that extra
1:43:50
shielding my feeling that the extra mass that was there on that station was shielding how did it get up there that's an
1:43:57
interesting question i didn't see us launch anything that could have taken it there did the
1:44:02
russians launch it there uh not that i know of i mean you've seen uh okay now
1:44:10
what that implies then is that we could never have made it to the moon in the way that it had been advertised
1:44:16
that we went to the moon because everyone would have been fried is that too simplistic a conclusion well that's my conclusion
1:44:25
i mean i know one thing you can go to to look at the moon diorama
1:44:31
uh a jet propulsion laboratory and you can ask the question was the lander pressurized with oxygen
1:44:38
they said no we didn't have a place where they had to wear their spacesuits and here's the astronaut standing over
1:44:44
the spacesuit on and here's the door to the lander open and you can see that that space wouldn't fit through that door without the astronaut
1:44:52
right but so i did have a bit you know there's a bit of speculation there
1:44:57
what we've been told by our witness henry deacon is that some of the apollo emissions did
1:45:04
actually go to the moon but not without help from our friends as it were
1:45:10
can you make any comment on that or is it well it's my feeling as a scientist that if we went to the moon we had to
1:45:15
have help from friends okay and all four old friends you're
1:45:20
talking about i'm talking about them we're talking about friends in high places friends from high places [Laughter]
1:45:26
okay from high places yeah but we do have friends in high places do we as far as i
1:45:34
know do you have any enemies uh as far as i know we do
1:45:39
and it's malevolent things happen all over the world that
1:45:46
uh you know you can't deny cattle manipulation and you can't deny some personal
1:45:55
or human mutilation right or certainly uh biomedical manipulation
1:46:02
i mean it's happened somebody did it and it could have been done from here but when you when you examine that uh
1:46:10
you know linda moulton howe has written extensively and spoken extensively on these things and examined them
1:46:15
extensively i grew up with her in the same school system in the same town
1:46:22
and know that she was exceedingly bright and got brighter and brighter as time went
1:46:27
by and uh i don't doubt that a lot of her conclusions are correct conclusions
1:46:34
she's someone that i would absolutely trust in that and it appears to me you know i say if
1:46:40
something happens in one spot you don't know but when something happens time after time year after year
1:46:47
in all different kinds of locations where people don't know each other and don't communicate with each other
1:46:53
don't read each other's newspapers and it doesn't make the press it seems highly likely that those things
1:47:00
happened i understand now among many other things you are
1:47:05
let me use the the word uh an electronics genius if i may and are you
1:47:12
in possession of any information about the constitution of implants that have been recovered from abductees well i've talked to people who have
1:47:19
removed what what they felt were implants i deal almost daily with
1:47:27
nano electronics and microelectronics and the descriptions and pictures i've
1:47:32
seen have nothing to do with any nano and microelectronics that we have in this uh
1:47:38
you know from from anyone that i know of here on this planet uh there are many of them are or most of
1:47:45
them are biological in nature i know that one doctor who's removed a number of
1:47:50
what they felt were implants the implant acted like it was alive and
1:47:57
moved through the body away from the surgeon trying to remove it i knew that some of them when they were
1:48:03
taken out were minutely dissected and i've seen the
1:48:08
pictures of that and they're devices that signals could be obtained from
1:48:14
that were obviously intelligent signals they were they were not random things they were not biological things
1:48:20
and yet it was biological material that had obviously been engineered for a specific purpose
1:48:27
that's really and i don't i've never seen anything in writing that would lead me to believe that we had that kind of
1:48:33
technology on this planet and when we're talking about friends or enemies in high places you'd feel that
1:48:39
wasn't a particularly friendly thing to do i have no idea it could well have been
1:48:45
and i wouldn't doubt but what we've had that from both sides friends and enemies okay i think there i
1:48:52
think there are people here uh they're people that i felt were were had crucial
1:49:00
knowledge to the perpetration of the planet the way we'd like it to be
1:49:06
and i've seen them saved from disease miraculously
1:49:13
but they had had uh uh some incident that they seem to have a memory of uh that we
1:49:21
would call maybe an abduction or maybe a kidnapping and manipulation
1:49:26
so they're being helped and supported they're being helped and supported it appears from from somewhere yep yep our experience
1:49:33
would um would support that all the testimony we received from a lot of people it's just interesting to hear
1:49:39
your view this is something we didn't even talk about yes well i i try to look at everything
1:49:44
from a scientific viewpoint from an observe from a a really
1:49:51
unbiased observational point of view and being as i got involved in quantum
1:49:56
physics early which is something that deals a lot with prop uh probability uh
1:50:03
i try to figure the probabilities of things make observations and feel the probability well what would this mean
1:50:11
from a probability standpoint what's the probability that it just happened spontaneously and the probabilities are
1:50:17
approaching zero what's the probability that we had something that would do this probabilities are
1:50:23
zero or very low what's the probability that it might have come from some outside
1:50:28
intelligent source the probabilities are up in the you know 99 region and and then after
1:50:35
you see one after another after another of these you begin to think you know maybe maybe i'm on the right
1:50:41
track here yeah when does it become a reasonable certainty yeah right um
1:50:49
we've just mentioned the testimony from our witness and colleague henry deacon
1:50:55
and now you talked about your experience working with quantum physics uh you told us about
1:51:04
sorry let me start this again henry told us about his research work in what some people call signal
1:51:10
non-locality or actional communication at a distance
1:51:16
one of the holy grails of physics is to build a working device such that there can be instantaneous communication that can traverse light
1:51:23
years in no time is this something which you're able to talk about at all do you have any opinions experience so i
1:51:30
i've done a number of experiments and i definitely have opinions and i can say that maxwell was right
1:51:36
uh one of the things i found out was james james james clark maxwell
1:51:44
who wrote the first exposition of electromagnetic
1:51:50
theory and from a little bit of his work his
1:51:55
the way i like to describe his work it's like he took a white sheet of paper
1:52:00
and he took the end of a paint brush and dipped it in paint and made splotches
1:52:05
all over this white sheet of paper he said here's something i saw here's something i believe here's
1:52:11
something i've experimented on and so forth so now you have a white sheet of paper with a lot of splotches
1:52:17
which i liken to a window that you could peek through just a few
1:52:22
holes in the window and each time you peek through you see something different there's a lot of the area that was still
1:52:27
white that he hadn't had done any experiment in but there were a lot of various areas where he actually
1:52:33
did something and had experience experiments that were repeatable and were eventually describable if not
1:52:41
explainable so then he took one large bunch of these and he wrote electromagnetic theory
1:52:47
around that and so that electromagnetic theory allowed us to build motors
1:52:54
and generators electric motors electric generators radio transmitters television transmitters radio and television
1:53:00
receivers computers the internet etc etc over a period of time
1:53:09
and so that was passed on down through a line of scientist engineers physicists
1:53:15
and so forth and became those motors and television and so forth but what happened to all the other
1:53:21
splotches many of them were never never the knowledge was never continued it was
1:53:28
never written about etcetera etcetera so early on i uh
1:53:33
went and replicated most of the papers most of the notebooks most of the letters
1:53:38
that went back and forth and i started looking at some of these other things one of the things that that got out that
1:53:44
people did look at was a thing called action at a distance which meant that something happened in
1:53:49
point a and at point b which could be clear across the universe something could information could be
1:53:57
sent from point a to point b faster than the speed of light and it didn't travel
1:54:03
it literally went through some sub-universe or parallel universe uh from a to b instantaneously
1:54:11
and with no energy required just now uh in canada and in belgium and in
1:54:18
france and in some areas in the united states there's tremendous amount of research being done
1:54:24
in that and so it's something that's it's been known
1:54:29
at mit for example for many years but mip knows if they talk about it they gotta back up
1:54:35
and say all the physics we're teaching isn't exactly correct so that really hasn't happened but they
1:54:41
want to know that if harvard says something that they can say we've known about it for years
1:54:47
and there was a gentleman that i uh had met several occasions that ran a uh
1:54:54
kind of an anomalous research institute that found that these things that kind of violated the pet pet laws of
1:55:01
physics they continue to take a look at them but they knew that if that actually worked
1:55:06
and was something could be repeated that they better revise their thinking
1:55:11
and for one reason or another mostly ego political or economic
1:55:16
a lot of that stuff wasn't brought out what can you say about whether there
1:55:22
were any practically functioning devices built that that were able to utilize
1:55:28
this theoretical principle of communication action at a distance oh probably nothing okay i remember that
1:55:35
henry deacon uh said that he had actually worked on these devices he uh he said that the work had been
1:55:42
done at livermore prior to alan aspects experiments in paris in the 80s yeah that's the problem is when you said
1:55:49
practical okay now here's a problem if you have something that works
1:55:55
that doesn't use electromagnetic radiation
1:56:01
you have to develop a whole entirely new technology like how do you tune it you know when you tune a radio what
1:56:08
you're doing is altering the uh the problems with practical i don't we
1:56:13
may have a practical technology or not i know that once i get my lab built we're going to have a practical technology
1:56:18
because i have a lot of work that i've done and ideas that i've done and i now need to build a prototype
1:56:26
and uh it's how to tune something that doesn't have a time function and uh
1:56:34
so uh how can you transmit more than one signal at a time
1:56:39
and uh i and then uh i don't necessarily want to just uh
1:56:44
expose that information because uh not that it's going to be a a billion dollar product which it would be
1:56:52
i mean imagine a cell phone that will work anywhere in the universe with no energy or such little energy that it's
1:56:59
inconsequential and so uh
1:57:04
or internet that works that way as hal put off once said to me somebody
1:57:10
who i believe you once know he said to me as the dog said so many trees in so little time
1:57:16
exactly right exactly right so at this point i'm gonna thank you very much for the conversations
1:57:22
we've had both yesterday and today we're still on tape we've got some time left here today i'm going to hand over to
1:57:28
kerry with the microphone and the camera david also wants to ask you some questions about his particular
1:57:34
uh interests and we want to make sure that we can capture all of this as we possibly can do so with huge reluctance i'm going to get
1:57:40
out from behind this camera because i'd love to talk to you for hours more i hope we're going to get this opportunity later
1:57:45
thank you very much for your interest been involved with trying to build flying saucers usually found to flying
1:57:52
saucers if you look at most of the movies there's always seems to be a robot involved with it