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Overcoming Elite Child Sex Slavery & Pedophilia - Part 1 Anneke Lucas SOTTOTITOLI-SUBTITLES
Feb 18, 2025
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In this 4 part series, we speak with Anneke Lucas as she describes her riveting story of growing up as a sex slave to high profile politicians. She reveals how things operate, her in depth story, and an incredibly important underlying message of global healing we can all go through as the widespread reality of this becomes more clear to humanity.
In questa serie in 4 parti, parliamo con Anneke Lucas mentre descrive la sua avvincente storia di crescita come schiava sessuale di politici di alto profilo. Rivela come funzionano le cose, la sua storia approfondita e un messaggio sottostante incredibilmente importante di guarigione globale che tutti noi possiamo attraversare mentre la realtà diffusa di questo diventa più chiara per l'umanità.
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all right welcome to this interview this is going to be a four part interview that we decided to break up
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for the very reasons that there's a lot of heavy material here it gets pretty intense from an emotional
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perspective and at the same time it reveals something that's just so important to what we're uncovering as
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humanity during this time that we wanted to make sure we took the proper time to really go through this content
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so what you're going to watch coming up here is four different parts following annika lucas's journey
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as a child sex slave now this starts getting into you know what the elite pedophilia stuff
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that we start talking about this gets into the child trafficking and all that sort of stuff but really this starts looking at
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a deep you know i guess you could say puzzle that is starting to form or starting to come together here
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as we're uncovering and looking at this sort of elite pedophilia that does happen i know
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a lot of us want to turn a blind eye to it or want to pretend that it's not happening and you know that's fair it's fair to be
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able to say like you know these are dark things if we have to look at this this is a dark aspect of humanity
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that we're going to have to face and maybe i'm not ready or maybe i don't want to face that that doesn't take away from the fact
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that we have to now it doesn't mean we have to expose ourselves to it every single day it means that we do have to understand
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the depth to which is you know what this really is and what's going on because we're going to realize as we
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we chronicle her story and her ultimate healing through the entire thing we're going to chronicle what this looks
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like at an elite level what happens and what really who are the types of people that we're giving our power to
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when we begin to actually go out and vote and get become part of this system as it is
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today right we're not talking about voting in the future about as it is today right this is what
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these are the types of people that we're sort of keeping in power in in a lot of different ways because this is a widespread issue
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so without further ado let's get into this annika lucas shares an incredible story in these first two parts be sure
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to really really sit down and dive into these ones because they are going to get a little bit intense and we're going to have a
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meditation at the end of the second part which is going to be really important in this entire process so here's annika
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she's going to tell you her story okay hi i'm richard yinos with collective evolution and we're here today with annika lucas
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and we believe that annika has a very important story to tell and has very important insights to give
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us not only in terms of our own personal healing but in terms of where we go as a collective so
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welcome annika thank you so what uh what i wanted to start with
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first is for you to give an explanation of your experiences your
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story your life story your life story is kind of the foundation for so much
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learning and so much insight that we can get so um i understand
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that in in some ways you don't remember quite everything from
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what happened especially in your childhood i remember the important things you remember the important things
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and uh and maybe you can tell the story and however you want that'll help us
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understand what your experiences are so then we can go on to to talk about what we can learn from
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those oh thank you yes i'll share my story my life story i'll try to
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give an overview i was born in belgium in 1963 and my mother was
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single and she was not well and abused me from
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birth onward and [Music] she married when i was three and
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we moved from brussels to [Music]
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the flemish part of the country she was flemish but i actually spoke french at that time i was
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three and a half and um she married someone and i think right away i
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was targeted by the by a countess whose daughter was in my
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class and i think maybe this countess saw that my mother wasn't well
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and she arranged for a woman to be our cleaning lady and she and her
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husband teamed up they groomed me for about a
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year so this was all over some time because i was
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probably just around my sixth birthday when this couple first took me
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to an orgy they uh well the grooming
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ended with them sexualizing me and also verbally abusing
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me and then i was taken to the orgy so the groom by the grooming what what do you mean
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exactly for people to understand um well they spent a year taking me to all i learned swimming
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with them and they took me and they they in groups of kids so they
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were talking about they said it was their their nieces and nephews more girls than boys and
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you know they were always different children and they would just take me out with them to
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on they would do things you know go to the park go swimming that became like a weekly thing and they
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always offered my mother to take me off her hands
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so um and i never liked them either of them so i never wanted to
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go but my mother wasn't well so she was just taking it
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and um before the it was perhaps the same weekend perhaps not but
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before i was taken to the orgy the man raped me
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and the woman yelled and screamed at me
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and um they took me to an orgy
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where everyone was taking drugs and dressed as hippies but i realized later
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that they were actually not hippies they were they were all aristocrats it was
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happening in a castle and um
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and degrading experiences in that first night
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um i felt so humiliated i was
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made to take part in some like the man took me on a stage
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um and that was just right there were a lot of people around but most of them were so high they
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weren't really paying attention even though he was abusing me on this stage and i was naked
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and then after he had
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done this kind of show with me where he had done really gross things he
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left me there and i was just left on the lying on this black stage it was just a
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low stage like that but it was in this room which was kind of a salon and all these people were just around and
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people were actually barely paying attention
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so i stood up and this was the first time when i knew i had to do something or
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else i would die internally so i stood up and i i said you can't do this to me
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i'm going to make sure that you're all be punished i spoke about my stepfather who was the
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mayor of a village my stepfather is going to put you all in jail
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and then i was taken over by the man who had welcomed
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us that day and had basically dealt with the couple who
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were the the pimps and i guess he they brought three girls that day
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and he was disappointed that there wasn't a boy but my hair was short so he
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decided he was going to use me and
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that had happened before this this show and now he came back this i called him
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an old pederast and i started getting back into these
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these uh circumstances i started calling him an old an old pederaster like boys he was fat
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he brought me along very calmly like you know just like nothing happened
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like he was my friend and then i don't quite remember how we got to this place
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but we went somewhere else and we went into a basement it was a
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large basement a large cellar vaulted ceilings so it was maybe under another mansion or
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castle i'm not sure or maybe it was the same place i don't really know but we were walking for it seemed like a
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very long walk and i thought i was going to get killed
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and i tried to just attune myself to him even though i didn't like him and i felt
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guilty for not liking him but he was very casual he was
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just saying well we know we like you here and we wouldn't want anything to happen
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to you and i was
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trying to connect and then we reached the end
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there was it was as if there were several compartments of this cellar so when we reached the
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last compartment there was a cement tub
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that was built into the floor and there was nothing in the tub but
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behind the tub so when we reached this body came into view
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of a young very young woman a teen
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she seemed like a woman to me because i was just probably just six years old
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so he was just casually saying that you know he didn't want anything to
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happen to me and they wanted to keep me and it was just that i shouldn't say
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anything that you know we don't want to talk about anything we don't want to keep it a secret so he did that
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very gently yeah but the suggestion was very very clear yes that yes if i speak i'll be killed
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i'll be i'll be killed and this is very real because we're looking at a real body
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and i try to speak anyway because i thought well they're saying i can't speak to my stepfather because i said i was going to
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tell him so i try to tell my mother
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and i'm not sure when and i'm not sure how many times i went
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back with this couple but at some point my mother took over
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from them and started driving me there herself she actually got a car she didn't drive
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so she got all excited she got her driver's license and because of my
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stepfather's position as the mayor she didn't have to do a driving test so she was proud she actually took me to
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get her driver's slide to pick up her driver's license because she was very proud of it
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and then she got a little car and that was very unusual at the time that people had two cars out two-car household in belgium
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and got a little car she got an automatic car the only one available at that time because the belgium cars
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were not automatic so she got the only model that had
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you know that was an automatic car dutch model very small and and then she started to
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drive me to these places herself
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she'd drive me drop me off she'd never come in and then the idea
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was that she would be there at dawn and if i didn't come out at dawn she'd
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just wait and you should get calls from the woman
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the countess who lived in the village and just take me wherever usually
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it was orgies to castles with aristocrats and then there were also
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these other people there i started to get a sense of
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the the people they were not all aristocrats they were politicians
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i just knew that they were i learned to measure power then like i learned to measure who was you
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know the ones you have to be careful about the ones who had power [Music]
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and she also would sometimes take me just one to one house to one man
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keep me out of school there was always a doctor writing notes
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so the system of having a child live at home and either their parents
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was unusual i think i i don't think any other children
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were pimped out by their parents i think the pimps usually infiltrated into the
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families like these this couple had done but um [Music]
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to send the children back home that was the genius way of having the children
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available for whenever they needed them and in the week i would go to school
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and
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when i was nine um so there was a boss there was a boss in
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the network and he was clearly the most important person that person i recognized later
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was a minister he wasn't a cabinet minister in belgium and he was also prime
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minister several times and he and his friends were like the the
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group that was clearly running everything and
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when i was nine years old i was sent in a car with two handlers with another
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child and driven to switzerland
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and um when we arrived there
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we were also sent in a tunnel another tunnel we were outside for just a second in the very lovely air and then
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there was some um portal outside that was opened and we walked
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through it and it yeah i don't think you could see that it was anything from the outside it was just a gate and then we walked in a very long
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underground tunnel and there were torches on the sides of the walls that
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were burning with flames so
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we got to the end and the handlers met other handlers there and then a a man came out and he was a
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perpetrator and he um he decided that
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it was decided there those children were brought there for this man
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he was american he spoke french and i understood french
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so he he decided that there were two children one was for him to rape and one was to be
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sacrificed and he decided that the boy should be
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sacrificed and well i knew that boy
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i'd spend time with him and he was a little bit backwards he was a
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little bit slow so i felt extremely protective of that boy
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and i had comforted him on the way over in the car
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and i tried to hold him i tried it um i picked i had picked him up and
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walked with him because he was tired from the walk and i held him and i tried to hold on to him
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and all he was torn from me
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and
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this perpetrator
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this was a very large underground area with a lot of symbols on the floor and
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fires burning
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there was a large altar and there was a a man who i thought was a baron
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i'd known he was belgian he was the executioner
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i found out later i recognized him in picture i found out later he was a lawyer at the time and he became a baron later
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so i was made to watch
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this perpetrator made me watch while he raped me
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and well that was uh
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i didn't know if he i could well i've i never felt that powerless i
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felt powerless a lot but i felt completely powerless there
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because i couldn't he screamed
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and i could tell that his screams were exciting the people around that made them more
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angry and more violent
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and i felt that i betrayed him because i felt that i wanted the screams to stop
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too at one point and i felt that i betrayed him
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he was seven seven years old and i was nine
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and i was upset oh so he was butchered he was butchered
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slowly and there was this um
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this obsession with the genitals that was this offering
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this offering of his genitals to satan i mean i didn't
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you think of that word at all it was just everything was black and everyone was wearing black
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capes and i learned later that that was a satanic
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ritual and so this perpetrator i was very upset
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and he looked at me threateningly
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because i it was
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i got from him that he thought that i was upset because he
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had raped me and i
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laughed it wasn't i don't know where that laugh came from
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but i laughed at the i was incredulous that maybe he didn't
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even think that i could be upset about this child that he saw me
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did he actually say to you or suggest he didn't say that but he looked at me
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threateningly because he looked like he was getting insecure because i was upset and if i'm upset because he raped me
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then i'm mirroring something that he's doing right and so i got the feeling that he
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thought that i was upset because he had raped me and that and i'm therefore i'm a threat
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and i laughed because i had been raped many many times by then that's not
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why i was upset and as i laughed i thought i'm going to get i thought
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these thoughts were running through my mind i'm going to get killed for laughing but i saw this
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child emerge from him insecure he was suddenly i saw this little boy in this
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perpetrator who's insecure who who feels that he's the slow one who feels that he doesn't get it because
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he didn't know i was laughing so that he's in he was now insecure and um feeling that he didn't belong with
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the big kids i got all this information in this moment from looking at him as i
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laughed um and then he i told him no i was not upset
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because i i was upset about the child i was not upset about you and then as i was tuning in
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i started to say i'm not upset about you and i i just
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started to say well you know the men that were there
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had taken off their hoods and um most of them were old men bald
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balding you know like a lot of politicians like the bald streak in the middle and
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he was clearly older he was in his 50s clearly but he
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had all his hair and he looked very clean extremely clean and neat
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and so i started to say well you are you are you know i'm i'm not upset that
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you raped me and i started to flatter him saying look at these other look at these other men look at these men you know and so he
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started to share this joke that all these men were disgusting looking and he looked much better and then strangely
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i said he had this long nose and i thought in this moment when he was
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insecure i thought he's um very insecure about his nose he thinks he has an uh he's ugly he feels
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ugly like he has an ugly nose and i said you have a very nice nose and when i said that
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he physically transformed and his nose actually started to look better and he
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started to beam and i suddenly got this myself i felt myself
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transforming too and for the first time i felt pretty
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and he ended up so this american then ended up
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thinking i'm sophisticated because i'd laughed he took me with him to the united states
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and became an important father figure
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and being attuned to him i had to get in the same mindset that you know what had happened
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there that was not didn't happen
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well i thought i was going to get killed when i was being on the jet i didn't see him when i was
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when i was on the jet and i thought i was being wherever i was
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going to be taken i was also going to get killed
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and i was taken at i was it was at jfk but i was taken by a handler
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off the the private jet didn't go through customs he just drove me to a hotel he put me in
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a room and in a brown room so i thought for sure i'm waiting here to just be killed
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then the handler came and got me back put me in a car in the back of a car where he
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was waiting and he greeted me like you know he was really happy to see me so i
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spent this time with him and he educated me about several things
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he showed me his way of life he took me to several of his houses new york city north of new york
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i met his staff he just brought me along everywhere we went he
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an american with a nine-year-old belgian girl nobody ever seemed to wonder
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he was very powerful i could tell he was very powerful i realized later that
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probably i and the boy were sent to switzerland to get in his good graces by
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the leader of the network in belgium that it was a a gift or some kind of trade
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so i spent three weeks i think in the united states with this person sailing with him on his boat
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to maine to his property there so he had
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properties everywhere he took me to three of them and he suddenly started rejecting me on
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the trip to maine and we stopped over somewhere
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saw a friend of his one of the leaders of the families i later realized
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and i heard him talking and i'm good with languages so i actually understood what they were
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saying in english you know he thought i spoke french only
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but they were he was talking about me to this other person as if i'm this
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example that children are very well suited you know to have sex with and very sexual beings and
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um it's part of what i think is the agenda
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sexualizing children and just not recognizing the innate innocence of children so he was
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demonstrating that through me that i was so adaptable and that clearly you know this i was the proof
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that this was a good idea to have sex with children
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and he bought me a dress he taught me what good food i mean i ate very good
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food he taught me how to eat it he taught me about art um
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he invested this time and he kept saying that i belonged
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to his class of people i belonged to his family even i never met anyone of his family but i
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was in his his houses and so i felt finally i belong somewhere and
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i'm also high i'm connected to him and i'm on this cloud of privilege
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which is such a high incredible so that alone you don't need any drugs you
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know just feel like you're above the world above everything and everyone and everything was so clean
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and so beautiful you know um gosh even nature seemed more beautiful
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like the parts that he owned because it was also clean right and um
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he sent me back he started to judge me when i got a runny nose on the sailboat so
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he started to become distant but polite and then he sent me off big smile
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sent me off back on the jet but he stayed he was going to see me again he sent me off to this the jet went back
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to switzerland i was picked up by the leader i was high
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the whole way through as i thought i'm loved i felt
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i found you know a father i'm loved he's going to see me again he's going to
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you know bring me into his family somehow that was my thought i was convinced that was going to happen
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i was picked up by the the cabinet minister was the leader of the
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network at the airport who was
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really annoyed at having to be the gopher clearly he didn't appreciate
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having to drive me around but he took me somewhere right away to a facility close by and immediately some
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some tests were done like some things i was strapped down in a sort of
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lab-like setting i was strapped down
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and there were two men in white lab coats and he and so they took things they they they
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took things from from my uterus and um
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and some needles definitely
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and then i was brainwashed so then i i was sexually stimulated while i was
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strapped down while did the belgian was screaming into my ear
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that if my man leaves me i'm i'm worth nothing and i should just kill
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myself and my life's worth nothing just kill yourself you're this so there was this while this sexual
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stimulation was happening
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and then he drove me after that he drove me
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to germany to a place there
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and this is something i recently recovered it explains a lot about things of my life
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as any memory always does when it starts to fall into place when the pieces of the puzzle start to
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fall into place it certainly explains a lot and then there's this this healing that takes integration that
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takes place that's very important um for my well-being
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i was there for um a month and so i'll briefly say that
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it was a kind of a training plus eugenics it was a eugenics
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clinic what do you mean by eugenics in this in this particular case so i was taught
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i was shown a lot of videos or film whatever my eyes were pried open
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and i was made to watch and i was i was made to watch um
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people engaging in all kinds of sex acts but i was made to watch their faces and i was taught through it was
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systematic it was very well done in that sense that it was structured really well so that i could
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start to understand that certain physical features like certain physical features are going to mean that
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for that man's genitals for example or looking at certain physical features like that's
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what that man likes sexually so i could see from looking at someone's
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face what they like and then looking at someone's body what they like sexually what they are about sexually what they need sexually
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so that was most of it that was most of this training so i watched a lot of was made to watch a
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lot of film but i was also starting to understand because
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because it was also true so there's a correlation somehow between
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the way that the face develops and people's addictions and
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everything um all the trauma is actually all somehow expressed it's it's all visible we just don't usually
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look at it we don't usually see it so i was taught to see it so in this case you're you feel like
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you're being brainwashed but also you're you're getting to understand a deeper truth about
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you know what things mean when people have certain faces reactions yes traits characters
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traits like the eyes especially yeah around the eyes especially it really shows like if
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someone's addicted to sex for example there's certain creases that appear and they're they're always the same and
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when someone masturbates for example you there's a certain there's a certain type of other type of crease that
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appears under the eyes so you can see sex addiction very clearly
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and then i was made to see all the differentiations of
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the different kinds of sexual addictions that people have and what because i was being trained to be a sex
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slave for the elite um but also things were done so there
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were there were a lot of things done to my head um and there seems to have been some
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technology used that were not that should not have been in 1972 that should not have been
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used i think there were lasers used on me there were lasers put on my body
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and there were things performed on my body as well i don't know meaning that the people at
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that time didn't realize that technology was available so it was ahead of its time it was ahead of
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its time yeah and there was a doctor there and i i recently found him so not only
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was i made to see all of these videos but there was also the main doctor there i didn't see him that often but he was the main
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the leader there very scary looking uh man who i
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i found his picture who uh was a nazi he was part of the
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nazi party he was not very active but then he got a very big public role afterwards
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as a doctor and he was interested in eugenics and he was
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funded by this american perpetrator
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i didn't know that of course but i was also there were also a lot of programs put in place
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to sort of make sure that i wouldn't remember the doctor's face for example so there were suffocation programs put
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in place so when i when i saw his face first i started to suffocate and so i had to break through these
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breathe through these very strong suffocation programs that and and then when i finally saw his face
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had a very strange reaction because i don't think i've ever felt that much hatred right so so much pure hatred
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that i just wanted to to somehow this this revenge was very
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very uh ripe in when i saw his face on online and and this is would this be
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around 2013 we're talking about no no this is threat more recently i i had
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um started speaking publicly about what had happened to me in 2013 but this is more recent this is in the
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in this past year right this really when this perpetrator died
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the american perpetrator died and that i think i wasn't safe
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emotionally safe to remember him until he was dead so it was once once he died i saw that
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that everything started to come back it makes sense and just slowly because when a memory comes
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back it could mean anything it doesn't necessarily mean that it's a memory you know i'm just starting to get these
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images and i'm starting it's really not until they are felt until the
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feelings that are connected to this and all the repressed all that are that have been repressed for all that time and that have been
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maybe coming in at inappropriate times when there's something triggered
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it's only when those feelings are connected to their original trauma that the integration then happens
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and then and then know that this actually happens exactly you have that record that's the key to the recognition of that
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say yeah this is in my past and there's no doubt about it there's no doubt i felt it no i cannot doubt it right
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um and i didn't of course when i was in germany as a nine-year-old girl
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i could have never imagined that this perpetrator who was my father
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that was connected to all of this abuse that i was experiencing there
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so that year that summer it was a summer in july i went with this perpetrator to
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united states in august i spent the time in this it was a dirty lab i mean it was
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germanic in certain ways but it was very dirty place with like a little black half you know curtain
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and and and i was the oldest child there so it was particularly
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torturous because most of the most of the children there were babies and toddlers
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that were being trained and i was strapped down most of the time i was trapped on a sort of a cot type
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thing so i couldn't um again you know this helplessness
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this powerlessness that i couldn't um cause them they were crying
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and i was just powerless to to pick them up or to comfort them
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and somehow you always through all this you always had that care for the innocent right
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sure yes i didn't feel innocent right but i felt that the other children
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the other children
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well i had been loved as a child as a baby so my mother was abusive but i was loved
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by by a caretaker
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so i got my mother's abuse and the numbness and
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and then i had the caretaker who would bring me back to myself to wrap me on her body who was my real
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mother for three years so my mother went to work
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so i went to this caretaker a lot very sweet and so i knew what it was
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like to just be me i got this experience of being seen as an innocent
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baby and i think because of that that vibration
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you know it's a vibration it's this vibration of love of unconditional love that as a baby i was
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just accepted as in that phase of
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my human life this completely innocent human being as that was seen and recognized i was
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then able to have this blueprint inside of what it means though i should tell you i'm not really
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completely sure about that because i work with people who've been through similar things and i
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don't know if all of them have had that experience of being loved but they still have the
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heart uh that was the question i was gonna ask
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i was gonna say without which without this experience
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does everything else does your the whole rest of your life play out very differently you think
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i think so but i have to tell you that i'm faced every day with people who
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i've been through as much as i've been through and they have the same
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caring the same love i mean we weren't able to express that
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to each other in the network and i certainly never did again after the little boy who was
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who was butchered i never again allowed myself to be close to another
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child so i didn't really i suspected that
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underneath the way that we were pitted against each other that we really did care for each other
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and i can speak more about that later but
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um to return to that germany right
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lab i i was so in i was also brainwashed so
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there was also an attempt to to use my head somehow and to i was strapped down and then and
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then there were there were things put in my head big needles but in my head
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and there was this attempt to this forceful attempt to make me believe
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another that i'm a whore that i'm i'm only a whore and so
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there was this voice rising in that terror because it was very terrifying i was on my back and i
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strapped down and then there's these things in my head and there's things being put in my head [Music]
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and my brain going through my brain
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so from that there um i was repeating my truth i am i am me
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i am me my my affirmation was do you know what yeah which is
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yeah i didn't feel innocent but i perhaps felt that i had access there was
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some access there was a portal there back to it that i that's me that is me and then i
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that everything else that was imposed is not me so i am me
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and so they're doing experiments and they're doing experiments and they're thinking and hoping well maybe this will
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work maybe this will work and they weren't thinking and hoping they they
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knew what they were doing and usually it did work okay yeah no it's more that i was one of the
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difficult ones always understood and i was also too old
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okay yes like you were saying they had some very very young children and babies there and they were
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already starting that program yeah the you know the the deliberate dissociating through trauma
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so that you can go into an altar and then become the whore or whatever alter you know
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because there's as the horse there's very many different altars there's one for each you know perpetrator
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basically right and that was a month so a month there
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and that doctor yeah i just there was this
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this great anger and like i got i see your face i know it's you i
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know it's you there i had that feeling
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part of the healing you know yeah the revenge and the anger yeah yeah to overcome
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you and you saw the intentional programming to have him wipe from your face and then you see him and you recognize him
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and that in itself after after all the suffocation yes exactly yeah having to get
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get through that painful process and the deprogramming yes right yes
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and in the next year so then i was taken back home my family had gone on a vacation without me
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no questions there's um they went to austria
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and my mother my mother said you know we didn't have a good trip
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i think that's maybe the closest that she could ever come to any kind of like
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right it's nothing but it's well she was trying to say
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something did you ever get a sense that your
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mother had trauma in her childhood or you know oh for sure
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yeah yeah she was extremely traumatized right she was born in 39
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so in a town close to the german border so town that was bombed where there was
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famine her father was in a concentration camp and back in belson
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and so as a prisoner of war not as a as a concentration camp
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prisoner but her mother died when she was right
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five six years old just right around that same time that she that she started to put me in these
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life-threatening situations clearly she had been sexually abused she
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acts like that she doesn't remember it but she acts like an over-sexualized
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lit five-year-old little girl that's how she acts i know that her father he survived the
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camp he wasn't cool he never touched me sexually but he once
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slapped me on the behind very inappropriate i don't know clearly she had been
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sexually abused i don't know by whom but never any healing
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so there was she was like this this this five-year-old over sexualized child who firmly believed that men
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and sexual men who would sexualize her or men who were rapists were her
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her that she had to placate them and then all the self-hatred wasn't
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was projected onto me but no sense of anything no boundaries
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no no awareness at all
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and did you feel that her family was always part of this network in some way
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or there was no no there weren't no that's why she didn't go in she didn't go in she kind of felt envy
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she acted when she dropped me she acted as if i was gonna got to go to the cool party
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and she the victim didn't get to go so she was so
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putting me there in her stead she really wanted to be that celeb
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sexualized celebrated for her sexuality child she wanted to be that
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she had this idea that i was going to get a husband but i mean i was six years old but she had some idea that there was
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going to be a marriage coming from that i was going to marry into aristocracy [Laughter]
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okay so let's continue having now remember
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so you had that period of a month in germany yes and afterwards i was taken to germany several times so i was
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going to school but i was taken out of school a lot to go back to germany to be deployed as a sex slave for
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uh german um powerful german people so i recognized
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some people definitely top top of the power line that sexually abused me
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i learned german i learned to speak german i spent enough time there to learn the language
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and then and i'm not sure maybe it was about a year later i saw that american perpetrator back
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again right and i
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didn't want to believe that he was connected to this so but he started to question me he was
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very happy to see ms first so you know at first it was like very happy we're all and i'm thinking
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i'm now going to go to america with him and i'm going to be his daughter and his family he's
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adopting me that's what i was thinking right and this this meeting was was sort of planned on his part right he's
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it was his time to come back and see you and mm-hmm the next step of yes yeah and it was in
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a an extremely formal uh building a mansion but it seemed like it's a government building
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or something but very beautiful again but we we didn't meet in a room that had a bed in it
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we met in in a in a in another room i don't know i don't remember but there was no bed in
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it that's what i remember different yeah different from other different vibe from
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from other meetings yeah so so first he was very happy
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and i was very happy and then i guess i had a
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an inkling that there was some connection because we were in germany
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and i just wanted to confirm that he wasn't involved
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then he was not so happy and i told him that you know i had a very hard time
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and he said it was to make me strong
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and it was the only way it was the only way that he would be able to see me is to see me as a sex slave
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and he had asked me questions about the men that i'd seen so before we got into the the the grit
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of everything he asked me questions about these men and he he told me what is what's their weakness right so
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that was part of the programming also to to spot a man's weakness just right on
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and i i told them what their weakness was
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the the one who had seen the most often there were two but the one that i'd seen
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the most often he thought he was a good man so that was his weakness
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and he left when i said that the american left because of course
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in his mind no one's good and i was thinking well he's not good because
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he's a pedophile obviously but that was not on his that was not really on his mind right
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but then when i was aware that he was involved
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i got angry and terrorized i felt a terror again
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and then he um he came i guess what it was the end of his cycle where i had seen his vulnerability
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that he felt that he didn't belong when i left and he didn't know why i was laughing and he was the kid who was always behind
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yeah and couldn't really quite follow the other kids right so now he could say
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that i did not belong because i was vulgar i was he said
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i'm vulgar and that i he he should have never given me as much attention as he did
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because i always just be the lowest of the low and that's who i am that's why i'm the lowest of
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the law that's why because i'm vulgar right so in the the first situation you were able to
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connect with him when you're in the the dungeon the basement and and get him
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feeling good about himself and this time your reaction to his
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involvement in that program you did make an attempt exactly to reconnect and flatter and
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get in his good graces and so forth exactly i didn't i didn't do i didn't play the evolution of your
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i don't know i didn't feel that way right in retrospect for sure but what i felt
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was that that the terror that i'd experienced and
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the attempt to keep my soul alive was and there was nothing none of that
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was conscious right so i felt that i messed up in a really big way and i just took it
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all on i just felt that i it was all my fault
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and it's true you know i could look very sophisticated but at the
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bottom of it all this belief settled in me that i'm really not worthy
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i'm really just the lowest of the low and that's a belief that i held until i recently unlocked all of this that i i
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never made money in my life now i have privilege you know we're not talking about i've
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privileged but i never was able to be empowered enough financially so
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i realized that he needed me to feel that way that's the
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connection with the abuse he needed me to feel that way so that he could feel that he deserved
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all the billions that came with his family fortune and the billions that he made in his life
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because i was feeling that i didn't deserve it and there was this polarity in through
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the abuse that he constantly this projection i'm sure lasted for the rest of his life
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and i got to carry it for for for the rest of his life
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so it was at my expense and in the larger sense of this it's
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that's that's it you know the the the upper classes are in the position where they are
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by thanks to everybody carrying the burden for them and of
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course the more disadvantaged the person is the more pain they have to carry they're made to
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carry yeah and it's not one without the other that's what
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maybe isn't so well understood right and that's when we're going to be talking about healing that's when
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we're going to come to understand like how important it is for each person to step up
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individually if they look at the world instead of making a bad guy and saying
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we've got to kill them right it's you know i've got to
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look inside myself rise up become have the self-esteem
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yes and and that and then the other side of the polarity just sort of whispers out exactly
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yeah yes yes if each person becomes empowered from within
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there will be no need for an outer authority that lays down the rules and then
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basically abuse their power because that's all that's ever going to happen that's the only reason people are in a
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place of authority and anyone who starts out with good intentions we just had an election here
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anybody i see them you know oh and everyone's so excited about this one by the time that they actually are in a
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place where they supposedly could make a difference they're completely sold out
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and otherwise they fail they leave the system or they get killed
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there's no way that anybody can rise through the political power paradigm
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right and end up at the top with a good heart right and and with truly
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truly able to do anything there anyway those are the people that i met
1:00:29
that that abused me yeah and now i'm working with other people who have experienced the
1:00:36
same things i have so i know that it's continued and i know that the current leaders
1:00:41
are the same as the ones that i ran into in the 60s and the 70s exactly it's exactly the
1:00:47
same thing is happening and and they're i think a pedophile
1:00:54
is better able to be controlled absolutely yeah i mean that's part of
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the system from the the higher up in the hierarchy brings in people who can be controlled
1:01:07
then they become controllers themselves and everybody's trying to prove themselves yeah every time they act yeah they're
1:01:13
constantly have this need to say i deserve to be where i am i am who i am they have the need they
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have the need because they don't have the self-esteem right so they need to say you're right exactly they have to prove it to
1:01:24
themselves all the time and prove it to themselves really means that i'm better so you have a system that where you
1:01:31
climb and then you have the people with the good heart and they have no
1:01:36
desire to climb this hierarchy to get to the top they just want to be good with everybody that they're
1:01:45
that they encounter which is why it's kind of difficult to find someone who has
1:01:51
the power and the heart and the desire to and and has the will to get to a
1:01:56
certain position where they have power and maintain that no way to keep your integrity but people with a good heart
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most people are good most people are good but but the brainwashing
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the brainwashing is really intense and i everybody's brainwashed i got myself out
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of my brainwashing through the healing but the brainwashing
1:02:24
is intense and it's everywhere and that's the
1:02:30
that's the waking up that needs to happen okay so i'm not going to get into too much at the end of this one what i am going to
1:02:37
say is that again if this was a little intense to hear some of the things that you heard that's okay it's normal there you know
1:02:43
there's a lot of different emotions there's a lot of different feeling here and anika's been incredibly courageous to come forth and share this information
1:02:51
and especially as we get into part two where we're going to get into a little bit of a deeper aspects of the story
1:02:57
it's going to be important not only for you know obviously her journey to go through what she has gone through but it's it's going to be
1:03:04
important for us to pay attention to the emotions the different feelings that are going to come up as we go through this so not much else
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to say here at the end of part one but when we get into part two we're going to have a little bit more at the end that we're going to discuss