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REMOTE WORK SALARIES IN SOUTH AFRICA
Apr 4, 2024
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Okay guys I gotta ask, are European companies that are hiring us remote
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workers based in Africa, in Asia, the Philippines, are they using us? You know
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it's gotten to a point where I'm thinking this is no longer just cheap labor. If you
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get my point, this is now extortion bordering on slavery. Guys, recently I've
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been seeing a decline in salary, right, when remote work started I think maybe
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2018, 2019, salaries were comparable, right, they'll be slightly cheaper when they would outsource their jobs, right, if they'll be paying somebody in America
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$20, they'll pay maybe $15 or you know $13 if you're not based in America, to be
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specific in the US. Then the pandemic started and I don't know they were
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reporting that oh people are getting, refusing their jobs, let's hire offshore, offshore being us, I'll speak to myself directly, right, let's hire in
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Africa. I'm like yes and we got an influx of jobs. At that point they would be
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offering like $1,500 if quick calculation with today's rate, $1,500 would be like around 25,000 rands. I'm like yes, we want the money. Now note guys
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I'm talking about jobs that I talk about on this platform which are like your
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entry-level, customer service, call center, lead generation jobs, right, and I'm like 25,000 people were balling, people were rich, people, it was good. Now
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note for them, no one in the US will work for $1,500. Honey, I mean what are they
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going to do with that money? But for us at that time it was good. Then 2020 rolled
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by, 2021, they're like no, we're not gonna start offering $1,000. It was like, I was
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noticing this, I'm like okay, still, still, I didn't complain. That was around 17,000
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something, let's just run off to like 18,000 rands. I'm like, you know what, it's
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quite good, 18,000 rands, I can, I can work with it but lately majority of the jobs
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are paying $800. $800 being $18,600. Last week I had a bunch of jobs that were
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paying 600 years. 10,000 rands. I even saw a job that was offering 6,000 rands
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Guys, 6,000 rands is $352. Note, you might be saying, Lynn, oh my gosh, you guys are
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employed, you're complaining, but they do have workers that are in the US still
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earning a minimum of $18 an hour. $18 an hour, that's the minimum I've seen them
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getting, $18 an hour by, let's say the rate is a 70, that's 306 rands an hour, by
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45 hours a week, that's 13,000 rands times 4 times. So these people are earning
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55,000 rands, plus or minus, and were earning 6,000 rands for the same amount
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of work, same amount of time. And another thing that I've even noticed, right, they
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have requirements, they're getting ridiculous. For the same person or the same amount of jobs I see in America, for the ones, you know, like the easy entry
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level, whatever, they just need you to have your GED. I'm not sure, but that
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doesn't sound like, to me, GED sounds like, yeah, I think maybe it's my trick, but I feel like maybe it was
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grade 10, you stop there and then you then wrote some exam, crash course, so you
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didn't even really matriculate, right, in the offering $18. For us, some of these
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jobs now, they want you to have a degree, you need to have your bachelor's or your
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advanced diploma to even get these jobs, guys. For, let's just say, let me be fair
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majority of them, $800. I know, it's just something that has been niggling on my
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mind. I'm like, do I really still want to push remote work to you guys? I know it's
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convenient, right, from, to people that are looking for jobs, and it sounds easy to
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work from home, but let's also break it down a little bit. Some of the companies
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no longer pay for internet. A few do. Amazon pays for internet. What else pays
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for the internet? I don't know. Very few. Amazon also gives you a laptop, but we'll talk
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about that in another video. And then, majority of them, you have to use your
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internet. So, let's just say you're getting paid $800, so I'll work with the monies that I know, right? So, $800, working with conservative rate of 17, the rate
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being 17, that's $18,600. They want you to have internet, not just any internet, no
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no, no, you need to have fiber, so that means the neighborhood you need to be
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living in is good. I know some places that actually possibly really need these
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jobs, they don't have fiber or whatever, so you need to be in a good neighborhood, so that's another chat for another day. How remote work is for privileged
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individuals? So, internet, the minimum you can get, I'll use mine, 700 rands. So, you
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have used 700 rands internet for their business, so you're already down to
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12,900. Then, they do say you need to have a UPS or inventor. You know, internet
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does go out every two hours or something, maybe if you're not making this job, you
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would need to get it, but now for you to even get the job, you need to get
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yourself an inventor. I know it's a one-time cost, but still, those things go
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for, let's say, unless you find it on sale on Techalot, I've seen a lot of them going for $1,200. Rands, sorry, rands, rands, rands, rands, rands, 1,200 rands. Then, we're
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gonna talk about how you're using your home to do their work. So, they don't have to
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pay overhead for office expenses, and you're not even getting an allowance. Some companies do offer like the allowance to kit your office, right, by
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HA, by whatever, and I see that they do that mostly for like Americans. Could be
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the same companies, whatever, but most of them, they do kit you out. In Africa, I
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know, unless it's like a big company, I'm not talking about those jobs, guys, you know
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like those tech jobs that are like where you're aiming $5,000 a month. No, I'm
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talking about the ones we do, right? So, when they're interviewing you, they
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really want to see that you've got a desk and a chair, and what's that gonna cost? Then, I should get into the headsets. There can't be any headsets. A lot of us
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are forced to buy Yearlink headsets. Those are expensive. Guys, only for you to get
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paid $800, and you are working eight hours, or is it nine hours, and some
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people give one-hour breaks, some give 30-minute breaks. Now, let us move on to
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something about this entry, these jobs, these remote jobs. Career progression. Is
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there career progression in this job? So, can you rise up to be a team lead? Let's
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say you're a customer service. Can you be a team lead? Can you show that, hey, I was
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looking for this company, and I need to be transferred? You know how in other big
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companies such as your PwC and them, you can be seconded to another country? Do we
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get that opportunity? You've been a customer service rep for five years for
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this remote company. Can you easily get a visa to the US saying, hey, I'm being
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seconded? Do we? I don't know, guys. It's just me just thinking out loud. It's a Monday
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morning, and I'm not sure when you're watching this video. I was just thinking like, I love remote work. It gives me a bit of flexibility. I get to play
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with my cat Luna. My husband also works remotely, so we get to hang out. My days
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are... but when work starts, work starts, right? I can't do other things, and
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sometimes I'm even thinking like, maybe I'm working double overtime, you know? But I
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do save on fuel going to work and all of that, but am I lonely? I really think
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remote work is for people that have not going through mental stuff. It can be a
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lonely world, right? You don't really have colleagues. Customer service, sales jobs, those jobs are tough. You've got angry people talking. One of these days
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on my TikTok, I had somebody that came on. She said she was talking about how she left her
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job on Amazon. See this guy? Sometimes we have lives on TikTok, and she was talking about
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how she left because she would have like irate, angry clients, and she wouldn't have
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anyone to decompress with, you know? Or sometimes when you're working in those environments and the client is like unreasonable, your manager can hop on
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and like take over the call, but if you're working remotely, nobody's gonna hop on
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You're dealing with that person yourself and you are raging. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing
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Anyway guys, I think I'm gonna start talking more about these remote jobs and
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whatever, but if you have noticed, I have now been posting remote and on-site work
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because I feel like there's better career progression. So if your company decides not to pay you
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this remote job, are you gonna tell? Can you go to CCMA? I'm like, hey, there's this company that's based in Nevada
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that was supposed to pay me and they haven't paid me. Just some things I'm thinking
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Let us not... So in conclusion guys, I know I'm not going on a tangent. Let us not
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remain this as remote work. I think they are now underpaying us and is there something we can do? Really? Maybe we'll talk about it in another video. Remember
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guys, you are amazing. Never stop chasing the bag
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