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and he said, "I'm sorry, Kent. It's
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gone." And I just fell in the road. And
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I remember just running in the house and
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telling you, "You just collapsed, too,
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because this was our dream. This was our
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forever place."
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Howdy. My name is Kent Rollins. I've
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been a cowboy and a chuck wagon cook for
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over 30 years, cooking for ranches all
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across America. You might have seen me
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on the Food Network or alongside my
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beautiful wife Shannon on our YouTube
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show where we share cowboy cooking from
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the trail, but now we're going to take
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you behind the scenes to real campfire
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conversations. Join us as we share
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humor, cowboy wisdom, and stories full
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of history, heart, faith, and of course,
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a little fire. So, grab you a cup of
0:48
coffee, pull up a chair, and welcome to
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the podcast.
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You know, Shannon, I think in this
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episode I I do want to talk about the
1:00
fire and the devastation, the house we
1:02
lost, all the belongings that were in
1:04
it, but also there's great meaning and
1:09
hope because not all fire is bad. Some
1:12
fire molds you. It's like an old
1:14
blacksmith, you know, he pumps on that
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big old forge with a billow, you know,
1:18
the coals burning bright and he can put
1:20
a piece of metal in there and shape it
1:22
into something. The good Lord let us
1:25
walk through fire and mold us in what we
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are today.
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>> Yeah. I know if you guys have been
1:30
following us any amount of time, you've
1:32
heard us talk about the houseire that we
1:35
went through. Um and in just kind of
1:37
briefly, and I think it's a little
1:39
interesting, we haven't fully broken
1:42
down the whole situation that we went
1:44
through. Um I think it's it's
1:46
interesting cuz we just think you guys
1:47
are family and that we talk to you every
1:49
day. So, of course, they already knew
1:50
it. you already knew and you had already
1:52
been to our table and we've talked about
1:54
it. We forget. No, no, that hasn't. So,
1:56
we wanted to let you in a little more,
1:59
give you a little more details about
2:00
what we went through and also like how
2:03
we came through it. Yeah.
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>> And how that was kind of a bigger
2:08
picture of life in general. Um, and
2:11
Kent, you just made really interesting
2:13
connections as we were talking about
2:14
this with with the cooking fire, the
2:18
campfire, the house fire, and how all of
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those things um can change you and mold
2:24
you.
2:24
>> They do.
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>> So, that's kind of what we're going into
2:27
on this episode.
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>> Um, but to lead us in, Kent, you have
2:33
been posting weekly stories. These
2:36
appear on our YouTube channel community
2:40
tab.
2:41
>> We also put them in our weekly um email
2:43
newsletter. If you guys are interested
2:45
in that, you can sign up on our website.
2:47
>> But these have been really gaining some
2:50
traction. If y'all don't know, Kent,
2:52
you're a great storyteller. You talk,
2:54
you're a great talker. You talk a lot.
2:56
>> My pinmanship is bad. Is that where
2:57
we're getting?
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>> But surprisingly to many people who
3:02
don't know, you are a really fantastic
3:04
writer. You've kind of gone through
3:05
different phases in your life where
3:07
sometimes you write a lot, sometimes it
3:09
goes away, which I think we all kind of
3:12
go through different phases, right? Um,
3:14
but you brought it back.
3:15
>> Yeah. I mean, every once in a while you
3:17
think, I'm going to start something, you
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know, and it's like a job. I'm I'm going
3:20
to start digging this hole. And after
3:23
you've dug like 600 of them, you think,
3:25
I'm going to quit digging holes. But
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when I started writing these stories, I
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just wanted to reach out to people to
3:30
let them know, you know, whatever you're
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facing in life, whatever you're going
3:35
through, there's ways to get through it,
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you're never alone. The hard times will
3:39
make for better times. I mean, there's
3:41
always a blessing to me that I see
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through it. And uh so what started the
3:47
first week of January is still going
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strong every Sunday.
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>> Yeah. And um one you recently wrote in
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particular really was gaining some
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traction
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>> and it was called Before the Ashes Grow
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Cold.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And you had a great story about Mac and
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a fire.
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>> Yeah. That I was one of the first
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ranches I ever cooked on in my life that
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was for any length of time. You know,
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it's three weeks in. And uh
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>> where were you at?
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>> South of Abalene, Texas. and went in
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about the I'd say it was middle of April
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and um didn't know the country, didn't
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know the people. Um
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>> what's that like when I mean you're
4:28
comfortable in your cooking, right? You
4:30
know how to do a fire, you know how to
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grill a steak, Dutch oven cook. So
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that's comfortable, but what's it like
4:37
when you go It's like you're going to a
4:39
new school. Like what does that
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>> Well, I mean, it's like you ain't got no
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friends, you know? I'm all by myself.
4:45
I'm sort of an outcast out here on a
4:46
desert island. We just hope that these
4:48
people don't drag me off of it and drown
4:50
me, you know,
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>> and no one would find you out in the
4:52
middle of nowhere.
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>> No, they sure wouldn't. But I was using
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their wagon, their team was a very for
4:57
one of the first ranches I cooked on, it
4:59
was
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traditional, but you move camp every day
5:04
after lunch, which is hard.
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>> And so you would hook the wagon up to a
5:09
team of horses,
5:10
>> team of meals, and there was a sarish
5:12
meals ever.
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>> Why is that? They tried to kill you
5:14
every day. Takes seven seven cowboys and
5:17
me to get them harnessed. They try to
5:18
bite you, kick you, everything in the
5:20
world, you know, and it was a struggle
5:22
every week and every day just to get to
5:25
the next camp. And by the time we was in
5:26
there 3 weeks, they was a whole lot
5:28
better. But uh
5:29
>> well, and I want to stress so moving
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camp every day is really hard. Most of
5:33
the times when we're cooking on wagon,
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um we stay in camp. Usually we stay
5:38
right in camp the whole works, which is
5:41
on average like five to seven days. Um
5:44
the longer camps though, you're moving
5:46
camp. So that means did you pitch a
5:48
tepee?
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>> Never pitched a tepee. Never set up a
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fly. Slept under the wagon, you know,
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>> because you were moving so constantly.
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>> And I'm thinking, I ain't got time to do
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all this stuff. So, you're packing up
5:59
the wagon every day, then unpacking,
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cooking three meals.
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>> Yeah. I would cook breakfast and lunch,
6:05
wash the dishes, load the wagon, drive
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six or seven miles, cook supper, get my
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bed roll out, cook breakfast and dinner,
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and it was that way every day, you know,
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and it gets to wearing on you.
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>> Well, that alone, but plus like, okay,
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like you said, you don't know anybody?
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>> No, I didn't I didn't know any of them,
6:21
you know, and didn't know the country.
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you and say, "Hey, we're going to go
6:24
down here seven miles, turn at the
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corner by the windmill that's got a
6:27
broken fan, go 300 yards, and then turn
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back into oat thicket." You know,
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>> I don't know if any of you else know
6:33
ranch directions. I think there's a lot
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of similarities that But ranch
6:37
directions are exactly like that. You
6:39
get the old guy that's like, "Oh, pass
6:41
the windmill that's not there anymore,
6:43
but you'll see like a wide spot and then
6:45
turn at the and you're thinking, what?"
6:47
>> And you get lost. And I and I was in
6:49
fear of that team in a way because if
6:51
they run off with the wagon, tear it up,
6:53
you know, uh I'm not going to abandon
6:56
ship until the last minute, but uh it
6:59
got better, you know, and you get into a
7:01
routine to where after the first couple
7:04
of moves, I'm thinking, okay, there
7:06
ain't going to be much sleep here.
7:08
They're going to be a whole lot of work,
7:09
and you're going to have to get that
7:11
team harnessed every day, you know? So,
7:15
it's what those Cooks did so many years
7:16
ago. And I figured if they could do it,
7:18
surely I could do it, you know. And uh I
7:21
remember about the second probably the
7:24
second day that we was at a camp, there
7:26
was an old fell. I was in my maybe
7:29
middle 30s to late 30s and he was
7:31
probably 70 at the time. And most folks
7:34
would bring horses in like either with a
7:36
ramuda or in a trailer, you know.
7:38
>> But not old Mac. He jumped his in the
7:41
back of the pickup. They had stock racks
7:44
up. He just hauled his two horses in on
7:46
the pickup, you know, and I'm thinking,
7:48
"This old fell, he's been there, you
7:50
know, and he he wore an old pair of
7:52
Levis's." And you've seen so many of
7:54
them old-times, they'd roll the cuffs
7:56
up, you know, there on the bottom of the
7:57
boots.
7:58
>> And you could just tell by looking with
7:59
him. He wasn't just a cowboy. He lived
8:03
cowboy.
8:03
>> Yeah.
8:04
>> You know, he's his old face was
8:06
leathered and scarred up. Looked like a
8:07
road map that'd been run over a hundred
8:09
times. His old hands had arthritis in
8:11
them. And um he'd be known to sneak out
8:14
of camp at night in his pickup. Go to
8:16
town.
8:17
>> Really?
8:18
>> In some spirits.
8:19
>> Oh.
8:19
>> You know, and that's why they told me,
8:21
"Don't sleep out in the wide open. Sleep
8:23
under the wagon. He might run over you
8:24
if you got a chance coming back into
8:26
camp, but he would show up. I mean, I'd
8:29
get up at 2. Breakfast is at 4:30. And
8:32
he would show up every morning at 2:30.
8:34
And come over there. And I didn't have
8:36
old Bertha at the time, that old big
8:38
wood stove. I was just cooking in a hole
8:40
in the ground with fire, you Oh wow.
8:42
>> Had a grain on it. And he would come
8:44
over there and and kneel down on his
8:46
hunches right by that fire where the
8:48
smoke was just blowing in his face the
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whole time
8:52
>> and he didn't care.
8:53
>> He did. It didn't even bother him. And I
8:55
breathed more smoke than I ever wanted
8:56
to breathe in my life, you know. And uh
8:59
I remember him telling me one time he
9:01
said um smoke does two things for you.
9:05
And I said, "What's that, Mac?" He said,
9:06
'First thing that I'm looking for it to
9:08
do is keep them skeers off of me.
9:11
>> And I said, 'Well, it might be do that,
9:13
but I said, 'I think it's going to be
9:15
hard on your lungs and your eyeballs if
9:16
you stay there long enough. He said, you
9:19
ever heard the saying, being baptized by
9:22
fire? And I said, yeah. He said, I'm
9:24
being baptized by smoke. He said, "It
9:27
brings back so many memories from all
9:29
the fires I've sit around in my life and
9:31
and watched them, you know, uh, was the
9:35
fire built right? Is it good wood?" And
9:38
he got to telling me, I didn't know he
9:40
was a philosopher, you know, but he got
9:42
to telling me about, "How's your fire
9:45
burning? I'm not talking about this one
9:47
in the ground, the one that's in your
9:48
heart. What you got going on in there?
9:51
Is it got good wood on it?" And I'm
9:53
thinking, what is this old man talking
9:55
about? you know,
9:56
>> like I'm just trying to make coffee.
9:57
>> 2:45 in the morning. I'd just like to
9:59
make some coffee and some biscuits. And
10:01
uh but he would he'd stay 30 minutes and
10:04
converse with you every morning
10:06
>> really
10:06
>> about something and then he just walk
10:09
off like a gray ghost. That old smoke
10:11
just it just seemed like it just
10:12
followed him. And I'd just watch him get
10:14
plunged out of sight. And I'm thinking,
10:17
first of all, was this real? Yeah.
10:19
>> You know, was this man like a ghost that
10:21
just come in there tried to give me some
10:22
advice? I think we go back into not all
10:26
fire is bad fire.
10:28
>> So when as the mornings progress and
10:31
you're kind of getting more snippets of
10:33
this guy's philosophy, is it sinking in?
10:35
Are you gathering little
10:36
>> when you're when you're building a fire,
10:38
especially with for a cooking fire?
10:40
>> Yeah.
10:41
>> You're you're putting a lot of material
10:44
in there, a lot of fuel, you know,
10:46
because number one, I got to have the
10:47
heat fry something. Number two, I got to
10:49
have the coals to bake something, you
10:51
know. So, you're looking for a good hard
10:54
wood, you know, that's going to make you
10:56
good coals, put out a good amount of
10:58
heat, but will also really be well on
11:00
Dutch oven cooking. And I remember one
11:03
morning he was sitting over across from
11:04
me and I'd poured him a cup of coffee
11:06
and I never seen him sit in a chair. He
11:08
just always on his old hunches, you
11:09
know, he'd have that coffee cup in his
11:11
hand and he'd say, "Using that mosquite
11:14
wood today, are you?" I said, "Well,
11:16
that's all I see down here besides oak."
11:18
And I said, "I don't know if I don't
11:21
like the oak smoke. I just think the
11:22
mosquite smells better to me because
11:24
that's what I was raised on, what I was
11:25
around, you know." And he said,
11:28
"Hardwood?"
11:30
He said, "It'll make a difference." He
11:33
said, "You keep throwing hard wood on
11:34
fire, you'll always be good."
11:37
And I said, "What do you mean, Mac?" I
11:39
said, "I ain't throw something in there
11:41
ain't going to burn like a paper plate."
11:43
And he said, "A lot of time in life,
11:45
Kent, when you go to stoke and you're on
11:47
fire," he said, "you'll see something
11:49
out there and you'll think, "Boy,
11:50
that'll make a fire right there. Big old
11:52
log. See how big that log is? I'm put
11:54
that on there. My fire will grow
11:55
forever." And you pick it up and you
11:57
realize it's hollow. There ain't nothing
11:59
in it.
12:01
>> And you set that in that fire and it
12:02
burns away so quick. So many times in
12:05
life, especially for me, I'd see
12:06
something out there where I I'd think,
12:08
"Oh, I'm going to do this or I'm going
12:10
to get that." and you're so disappointed
12:12
in it after you see the end result.
12:14
>> Appearances can be deceiving. Yes. Um
12:17
some of these maybe desires or what we
12:20
see are hollow.
12:21
>> Yeah. I think that was the point he was
12:23
trying to make.
12:24
>> Interesting. And uh he said,
12:28
"If you're going to go through life and
12:30
you're going to have a passion about you
12:34
and you're going to have a fire," he
12:36
said, "First of all, you want it to burn
12:38
every day because if you don't tend a
12:40
fire, what happens?
12:42
>> Just goes out.
12:43
>> It just gone. Ain't nothing there but
12:44
ash." He said, "Make sure you have a
12:48
wood pile."
12:50
And I said, "I got a big one, Mike." And
12:52
he said, "No." He said, "I'm talking
12:55
about around you. Make sure you have a
12:57
wood pile in life." He said, "That's the
12:59
good people around you. That's the ones
13:02
you got to rely on. Do you have a a good
13:06
faithful life, Kent? Do you have someone
13:08
in your life that's taught you about the
13:09
Bible? Taught you about Jesus? That's
13:11
good wood. That's a wood pile." And he
13:13
just got up and walked off. You know,
13:15
I'm thinking,
13:16
>> let that simmer.
13:17
>> I don't know what going on here, but
13:18
every day was a little sermon. And he
13:21
was no preacher.
13:23
>> Yeah. But he
13:23
>> those are the best kind.
13:24
>> But he had these little words and
13:26
sometimes they wouldn't sink in till I
13:28
laid in the bed roll at night and I'd
13:30
think about them. I struggle going to
13:32
the grocery store for two things. I
13:34
mean, one is I forgot the list. Two, I
13:36
don't make time to go.
13:37
>> I know. And it feels like sometimes it's
13:39
just like such a long way to the grocery
13:41
store.
13:41
>> Yeah. Feel like Pony Express riding
13:43
forever.
13:43
>> But you know what's great is when it
13:45
just shows up at your door.
13:46
>> Yeah. You know, the thing I like about
13:47
Omaha Stakes is they come so well
13:50
packaged. I don't have to worry about
13:51
did I get here right at the right time?
13:53
You know, FedEx pulled up. I got a
13:55
notice. This stuff is frozen. This stuff
13:58
is good. It's fresh. And it's packaged
14:02
right because there's no waste.
14:05
>> You made the most amazing thing. In
14:08
fact, it was last night.
14:09
>> Yes, ma'am.
14:10
>> And it was this wine beef sauce
14:13
reduction over rice. And I said, "Oh my
14:15
gosh, what is this? Where did you get
14:16
this?"
14:17
>> Omaha Steaks. It was some tenderloin
14:19
that they had sent us. And when I say
14:21
it's packaged right, it there's there's
14:24
no waste in a serving. You think, "Oh,
14:26
there's three steaks in here, but I got
14:27
to throw them all out. I'm not going to
14:29
use them." So, it's very handy to have
14:32
two servings
14:34
>> that you could just pull out.
14:35
>> Yes.
14:35
>> But you know what? They're not just
14:37
known for their steaks, as you may think
14:39
in their title. We had some great fish
14:42
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14:44
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14:46
that really sets them apart at Omaha
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Steaks is they age their beef a minimum
14:52
of 28 days.
14:54
>> And that's going to give maximum
14:55
tenderness and flavor, right?
14:56
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14:58
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15:38
>> I think we can also relate fire to our
15:40
passions. Yes.
15:41
>> As well. Um, and you know, we can get
15:45
really quote unquote fired up about
15:47
something and we're excited about it and
15:49
like you said, if we let our our ashes
15:53
burn out,
15:54
>> it's just smoke left. Yeah.
15:56
>> So, like, how do we keep our passions
15:58
going? And I think it's it's true. It's
15:59
like the people that we're surrounded
16:01
by, um, even our mentality and our
16:04
thoughts.
16:06
>> But we have to keep nurturing that,
16:08
right? Like we can't just we can't build
16:10
a fire and keep it going by ourselves.
16:12
We need good wood. We need good people
16:14
around us.
16:15
>> Yeah. And if and if it's bad wood or if
16:17
it's wet wood, you know, bad wood will
16:20
burn up and you ain't got nothing left.
16:22
Wet wood just makes a lot of smoke. And
16:25
what does smoke do? Clouds your vision.
16:28
>> That's where you get people in your life
16:30
that you think, have you heard this
16:32
saying? They're just blowing smoke.
16:34
>> Yeah. We there's so many things and I
16:37
think that I've been through too where
16:39
I'm thinking, "Yeah, these people know
16:40
what they're talking about. I'm going to
16:41
buy this horse or I'm going to buy this
16:43
pickup."
16:43
>> Oh, for sure.
16:44
>> And you know, and then you think, man,
16:47
they done covered me up with smoke. That
16:48
horse is crippled as he can be and three
16:50
tires fell off that pickup before I ever
16:51
got it started. You know, so I really
16:54
think it's if you take your hat off and
16:56
fan the fire every once in a while. So
17:00
if you're not wearing a hat,
17:03
take your hands and put them in a prayer
17:06
position. Fan that fire. Ask God. Say,
17:10
"Lord, you need to stoke my fire. You
17:13
need to show me what wood I need to put
17:16
on it because I can't do this by
17:19
myself."
17:19
>> Yeah, that's a that's a great point. I
17:22
think we rely too much on ourselves.
17:24
>> Yeah. um that we have to we have to take
17:28
on the load. We have to build the fire.
17:30
We have to keep it going. It's only me.
17:32
Everybody's counting on me. And that is
17:34
absolutely not the case. I think that's
17:36
when we really
17:37
>> um can get get hurt.
17:39
>> Oh yeah.
17:40
>> You had mentioned um the wet wood.
17:43
>> Yeah.
17:43
>> And that is that's a huge no no in our
17:47
line of work. That's one of the worst
17:48
things you can come along is wet wood.
17:50
>> Make bad dreams happen.
17:51
>> Yeah. And I that just reminded me of a
17:54
time when we were in Pigeon Forge,
17:57
Tennessee.
17:57
>> I remember this time
17:59
>> we had um we were working or cooking for
18:01
a festival. You had done this festival
18:03
for like 14 years.
18:05
>> Um and it was a chuck wagon kind of
18:07
western festival and we'd bring the
18:10
wagon all the way from Oklahoma to
18:13
eastern Tennessee
18:14
>> forever
18:15
>> and cook for these different events
18:17
throughout the
18:18
>> sometimes twice a day. And for this
18:20
particular one, they had us on a parking
18:22
lot.
18:22
>> Yep.
18:23
>> Which is our worst enemy. We have the
18:25
Dutch ovens. We had kind of like this
18:27
sand pit built and something that had
18:31
happened that we were not familiar with
18:33
being in Oklahoma. It had rained a lot.
18:35
>> Yeah. And they had a little ice storm to
18:37
go with it.
18:38
>> Oh, yeah.
18:39
>> And they're So, they're going to bring
18:40
us wood. Now, this is a breakfast meal,
18:43
too. Gonna start like
18:44
>> How many were we cooking for?
18:46
>> I think it's like 350
18:48
>> for breakfast. So what? God, we were out
18:49
there at 3.
18:51
>> Yeah. Biscuits, gravy, scrambled eggs. I
18:55
think that was it. And bacon.
18:56
>> Mhm.
18:57
>> Or sausage. And we're waiting on this
18:58
guy to bring the wood. And we're
19:00
waiting. And we're waiting. And he shows
19:01
up and he dumps it out of this dump
19:02
truck. And you could like get like a wet
19:04
dish rag. You could ring your ring water
19:06
out of it, you know? I mean, it's bad.
19:08
>> So then
19:10
I noticed it on your face a little and I
19:12
had it in my heart a little like we
19:15
can't do this. We ain't got no wood. we
19:17
ain't going to make it. You know,
19:18
>> there's so many times, especially like
19:21
when you're cooking or especially for
19:24
events, when you're having to rely on
19:26
some like outside people to furnish
19:28
things or help and I get to a point I'm
19:31
like, forget it. Doesn't like I'm over
19:33
it. This isn't working. I just want to
19:35
leave.
19:36
>> It it does cross your mind, but you've
19:39
always told me I was one to really know
19:40
how to improvise in situations. And I
19:43
learned that I think by having that dust
19:45
bowl mentality that was blowed into my
19:47
head so many years ago when I was
19:48
little.
19:49
>> You never give up, you know. So I look
19:52
around and we keep a 10 gallon propane
19:56
bottle got a torch hooked to it.
19:58
>> Mhm.
19:58
>> And that's what we usually start the
20:00
fire with. Well, you could put it in
20:02
there and keep fire going
20:05
uh in Bertha in that sand pit to fry
20:08
something, but if you ever took it out
20:09
of there, it was out because it's so
20:11
wet. It just didn't want to dry out. And
20:14
Shan said, "How are we going to cook 4
20:16
or 500 biscuits? We ain't even we can't
20:19
even get no coals."
20:21
And a little light bulb turned in on up
20:23
here. Don't happen often, you know. And
20:25
I'm thinking that torch.
20:28
>> Oh yeah.
20:28
>> Put them biscuits in that oven. Heat the
20:31
top a little while. Heat the bottom a
20:32
little while. And it's loud. Gets on
20:34
your nerves. But I think this will work.
20:38
We're we're all the time in life faced
20:40
with something to where we have maybe a
20:43
plan,
20:44
>> but then something goes wrong and it
20:46
don't work. And the first instinct you
20:48
have is
20:49
like you said, I'm done. I'm through.
20:53
Y'all go to McDonald's, get your
20:54
breakfast. I ain't got no wood. I can't
20:56
make this.
20:57
>> And if we all did that, what would
20:58
happen? Everybody go hungry. And then
21:01
your your name and your brand for what
21:04
you stand for is tarnished. Well, I
21:06
ain't gonna hire that guy.
21:09
>> And also in those situations, like we're
21:12
so, at least for me, I'm so in my own
21:14
world of like, okay, how am I going to
21:16
get this done? What are we going to do?
21:18
The the end result is really important.
21:22
And as you're saying this, I'm realizing
21:26
how we handle that situation and what we
21:29
put out is a reflection of us, but it's
21:32
also a message to all those people
21:35
around us
21:36
>> and around you.
21:39
>> Meaning what you're working on and what
21:42
you produce, other people are watching.
21:44
>> Yeah. So possibly we were a maybe a
21:48
little bit of an inspiration to somebody
21:50
because they realized like we had a
21:52
horrible morning. We had wet wood. We
21:54
didn't have what we needed. Yet here's a
21:56
hot breakfast for you.
21:57
>> Yeah.
21:58
>> And how did we turn the passion that we
22:02
have for cooking into an end result that
22:05
maybe inspired somebody?
22:07
>> It's not only the fire that we created
22:09
outside, but the fire that we had inside
22:11
our heart. the faith that we had to
22:14
after we realized you can fix this
22:16
problem. You can get this done.
22:20
>> Yeah. But for sure
22:22
I couldn't have done that by myself. And
22:25
I guess you were the one that was
22:28
stoking my fire in that situation. And
22:30
that's what's so important. You've got
22:32
to find what what stokes your fire.
22:34
What's your passion? And who is going to
22:36
inspire that for you and be a good good
22:39
role model. K you had mentioned
22:42
a having a plan.
22:44
>> Yeah.
22:44
>> And following through with that plan.
22:46
>> Yeah.
22:47
>> So, we had a plan that didn't go so well
22:51
>> that we did.
22:52
>> So, a lot of you have heard us talk
22:54
about the houseire that we had gone
22:57
through. A little backstory. Um, this
23:00
was in the summer of 2024,
23:03
>> June.
23:03
>> So, we're just coming up on two years.
23:06
We had a house in Rudoso, New Mexico,
23:10
and we were in the process of moving
23:13
full-time from Oklahoma to New Mexico.
23:17
Yep.
23:18
>> Plan was we were going to live there
23:21
full-time. Part of the reason was um it
23:24
was getting really hard to cook in
23:26
Oklahoma
23:27
>> hot
23:28
>> because especially in summertime, which
23:30
then is now turning out to be like nine
23:32
months of the year.
23:33
>> It feels like it. When we were filming
23:34
videos, we had to be done by like 8:00
23:38
in the morning, otherwise it was getting
23:40
to be like 100°. Y
23:42
>> that's before we were building a fire.
23:44
>> Mhm.
23:45
>> And we were filming and I just remember
23:46
like Kent is like sweating in the food.
23:49
He's hot. He's red. And I'm telling him
23:51
like, make it look edible and look like
23:54
you're having a good time. And it was it
23:56
was just getting really rough and also
23:57
the wind. And so, um, we just needed,
24:00
uh, a change.
24:02
>> Yep.
24:02
>> And you had cooked in New Mexico in the
24:04
Hila.
24:05
>> Yep.
24:06
>> Before when you were guiding El Hunters.
24:08
>> Um, and so you had always loved the
24:11
area. And we had gone for our wedding or
24:15
our wedding anniversary. I had never
24:17
been to the area. I'm like, let's just
24:18
go and check it out. And when we left,
24:21
we had made a offer on a house
24:23
>> in two days.
24:24
>> It was crazy. Super crazy. And anyway,
24:27
so and I remember as we were before we
24:30
had really decided full-time that we
24:32
were going to move there, um I decided
24:36
to move all my precious wonderful
24:39
things, memorabilia, everything that I
24:41
loved. I wanted to move into that house
24:44
because that was going to be my happy
24:45
place. Like this was our our retreat and
24:48
just it our our place of absolute joy,
24:50
right?
24:52
So, I remember we had done one of our
24:55
like final loads.
24:56
>> Yes.
24:57
>> Over to the house and we had stayed
24:59
there for a couple days and we left. We
25:02
got back to Oklahoma. Did we get a call
25:04
from a neighbor first or was it our our
25:06
Simply Safe alarm system?
25:08
>> I was coming back from uh Alas, Oklahoma
25:10
went over there to get something and uh
25:13
Phyllis, our neighbor, called and it was
25:15
about I'd say 1:00, you know, and
25:19
>> in the afternoon.
25:19
>> Yeah. And she said, "Ken, I've called
25:21
you many times and told you we had a
25:23
fire, but this is a bad fire." She said,
25:26
"It's so windy." She said, "I bet we
25:29
have to evacuate."
25:31
I hadn't been 10 miles down the road and
25:34
Phyllis called again. Her and Truman,
25:36
such sweet people, and she said, "Can't
25:40
we got to go now? This is bad." about
25:43
the time I got home and I was telling
25:45
you and we're in there and we were
25:47
listening and then Simply Safe alarm
25:49
went off, you know, and people were
25:50
telling me, "Hey,
25:52
>> it it was it was weird." Yeah. So, our
25:54
Simply Safe goes off and we get the a
25:56
smoke alarm in the garage.
25:58
>> Yeah.
25:59
>> And then Simply Safe calls us and they
26:02
said, "Hi, you've got an alarm going
26:04
off. Would you like us to dispatch the
26:06
fire department?" And I said, "Lady, I
26:09
think the whole place is on fire. they
26:11
could care less about our single house.
26:13
>> But at that time,
26:14
>> it still didn't sink in.
26:16
>> It didn't It wasn't even a thing. It was
26:19
like, "Oh,
26:20
>> yeah. Fires happened in that area. Fires
26:23
don't burn down whole communities
26:26
anymore." Like, that's not something
26:27
that's done. From the time that we got
26:30
the alarm, looking back, we figured the
26:33
house was completely gone within two
26:35
hours of that.
26:36
>> Yeah. You know, we we bordered up to the
26:39
national forest. Yeah.
26:41
>> And I had trimmed the trees back. We had
26:43
concrete siding. We had a metal roof.
26:46
>> We had a track uh deck. We were
26:49
fireproofed.
26:50
>> There was 40 and 50 mph winds that day.
26:53
And when you have that much fuel and
26:56
that much wind, it's time just to get
26:59
out. Time for everybody say we need to
27:01
find a safe place. You know, it didn't
27:04
just affect our house. It burned our
27:06
neighborhood. It burnt so many houses in
27:08
the area. two people were killed, you
27:10
know, and and you can't I remember
27:13
laying there all night thinking, "Our
27:15
house made it. Our house made it."
27:17
>> It was really hard because we had an app
27:19
called Watchd Duty, which is a fire um
27:22
app. And it was hard because the updates
27:25
weren't correct. They weren't doing them
27:27
a lot. Nobody knew what was going on. We
27:29
were just relying on Facebook.
27:31
>> Um and you'd hear different things like,
27:33
"Oh, this is completely gone. Oh, no,
27:35
this is safe." Um, and we had still we
27:40
still had hope and it was like one of
27:42
those it's not going to happen to us.
27:43
>> Yeah. And I we had a friend out here
27:45
that's a contractor and uh
27:49
he had called and he'd said, "Ken, he
27:51
said the fire's bad back over y'all's
27:52
way. He snuck in there
27:56
>> on a four-wheeler like in the middle of
27:57
the night."
27:58
>> Yeah. Like 3:00 in the morning.
28:00
And we were at the time had loaded the
28:04
trailer to start our first episode to go
28:09
for the Cast Iron Cowboys series to
28:11
Nebraska.
28:12
>> Mhm. And I'm going to the barn at 5:00
28:15
in the morning
28:17
and text box up Garrett
28:22
and he there was a picture
28:26
and he said, "I'm sorry, Kent."
28:30
And hang on just a minute. Uh,
28:34
it's gone. And I just fell in the road.
28:40
And I remember just running in the house
28:42
and telling you and you just collapsed
28:43
too because this was our dream.
28:47
This is this is what we decided. This
28:50
was our forever place. This was our
28:52
sanctuary,
28:53
>> you know. And I don't want to get too
28:56
like I felt a little bad because
28:59
it's a I didn't want to get wrapped up
29:03
in the things of it, you know, like oh
29:05
all of our things were there and it was
29:07
a structure like
29:10
>> that wasn't what we lost the most of.
29:13
Especially for me because for me
29:17
this was our first home together.
29:19
>> Yeah.
29:20
>> Um and this was my
29:22
>> It's okay.
29:24
This was my happy place that I had not
29:27
experienced in a long time. And that's
29:31
what we lost.
29:32
>> Yeah.
29:32
>> And I thought,
29:35
what what does this mean?
29:36
>> Yeah. I remember my oldest son and his
29:40
wife said, "We're going to drive out
29:42
there, Dad, and see if there's
29:43
anything."
29:44
>> Yeah. Because Okay, so we get this. This
29:46
is And they had completely shut down the
29:49
town because this was a massive fire.
29:53
Many of you may have may be aware
29:55
because it was on CNN, it was on
29:57
national news, it was everywhere. Um, so
30:00
but they had closed the town down like
30:03
you could not get out or you couldn't
30:04
get back in. And we had gone to Nebraska
30:07
because we were like, "What else do we
30:08
do?" And so your son and
30:10
daughter-in-law,
30:11
>> they drove out on a Saturday. I told
30:12
him, I said, "I don't know if y'all can
30:13
get in cuz after the ranch in Nebraska,
30:16
we had to go to another ranch in
30:17
Wyoming. So, we were going to be 2 weeks
30:19
before we could ever get back, you know,
30:22
>> and I think it was a week until they
30:23
could get in, right?
30:24
>> Yeah. And he called and he said,
30:30
"It's just ash.
30:33
Ash and twisted metal, you know." And he
30:37
said, "Um,
30:38
>> Tara was so sweet. She she like dug
30:41
through and she got me like our like
30:43
china plates in pieces,
30:45
>> you know, at the time, and y'all have
30:46
heard us say this, too. We had lost the
30:48
beagle right before that and then this
30:49
happened and when we got through we
30:53
loaded up when we got back to Hollis
30:55
that night and we drove to Riodosa the
30:57
next morning we put some camping stuff
31:00
in there cuz we knew we didn't have no
31:01
place to stay you know and we drove out
31:04
here
31:04
>> and we had planned to just camp like in
31:08
the truck or did we have a tepee?
31:09
>> Yeah, we was just going to camp by the
31:10
house.
31:11
>> We were going to camp on our lot. Stupid
31:14
stupid idea. And I remember you I think
31:18
you kind of went into a different place.
31:21
>> Yeah.
31:22
>> You just kind of shut that out and you
31:25
were more mechanical.
31:27
You went there and you were just like
31:29
digging through. You were going to see
31:30
what was left, what had happened. You
31:33
found like some Dutch ovens. Our stove
31:36
had completely melted.
31:38
>> Yeah. And the glass that was a Viking
31:39
stove. The glass in that stove is rated
31:41
to 2200 and it all melted
31:44
>> run out on the floor.
31:46
>> But everything burnt.
31:47
>> It was weird.
31:48
>> Sort of straight down cuz your the china
31:50
that you had was stacked.
31:51
>> The hutch had just like fallen straight
31:53
down and and plates were still stacked.
31:55
They weren't together, but they were
31:56
just And you were digging through and I
31:59
remember I was trying to and then I just
32:01
I couldn't.
32:02
>> Yeah. And I just went to the truck and I
32:05
>> the smell I mean and Jason told me he
32:08
said, "Dad, you need to take you some
32:09
good mask out there." He said, "The
32:12
amount of ash and toxic chemicals from
32:15
the galvanization of the tin that got so
32:17
hot to everything else that burnt, you
32:19
know, he said it'll hurt you bad." So,
32:22
we brought us some of them good mask,
32:23
you know, looked like we was working for
32:25
SWAT, maybe.
32:27
>> No, but it was still And I realized it
32:30
was making me sick.
32:31
>> Yeah. and and we we couldn't stay there.
32:34
Then we we luckily there was a hotel
32:36
that had some vacancy because it was
32:37
really hard to find places. But I
32:39
remember I sat in the truck and I had
32:42
the Bible and I just turned to Isaiah.
32:46
>> Man, guys, Isaiah got me through that
32:48
fire. Um because it's really
32:50
interesting. Um Isaiah is split into two
32:53
sections. There's the first one is the
32:56
book of woe.
32:58
We were going through that and then
32:59
there's the book of consolation. And
33:02
Isaiah got me through.
33:03
>> Yeah. Uh after I dug around in there for
33:07
a while cuz I took my dad's saddle out
33:09
there that he had uh got right after he
33:11
got out of the war. And um I'd put it up
33:15
sort of like a showpiece, remember? Up
33:17
on top that little wall. And um
33:21
>> I'm thinking there probably ain't
33:22
nothing left. Maybe the D-rings. And the
33:24
D-rings on a saddle or what the cinch go
33:27
through. And they were brass. And I took
33:30
a rake and a and a sawzaw. I was cutting
33:33
tin out of the way. I was cutting what
33:36
was left of a hot water heater out of
33:37
the way just to trying to get because
33:39
you knew where the rooms were, you know.
33:42
>> Yeah.
33:42
>> And I remember getting that rake and
33:44
raking around through there. And there
33:46
was a cast iron skillet that I always
33:48
just kept in the oven, an old Griswald,
33:51
and I had it forever. Cracked it in
33:53
half. There was nothing left of the
33:56
saddle. I remember you were down there
33:58
in the pickup and I could just I
34:00
couldn't couldn't go at that time. I
34:04
needed God to tell me something to say
34:07
you're going to make it. You can get
34:09
this done. So you could walk out of the
34:11
back of our house and hit the national
34:13
forest. There was good trails.
34:15
>> Mhm.
34:15
>> And there was a favorite spot I had up
34:17
there that you could look out across and
34:20
see Sierra Blanca. And there was a big
34:23
giant alligator juniper there. And um I
34:27
mean one of the biggest trees I'd ever
34:28
seen is a juniper and the base was felt
34:30
like it was four foot around
34:33
and I knew where that spot was and I I
34:36
mean and everything's just black. The
34:38
dirt's black. The what trees is left is
34:40
like black twigs.
34:41
>> I had never seen anything like it. It
34:43
looked like a war zone. I remember
34:44
looking across at our neighbors and
34:46
there was a burnout truck. It was just
34:48
the most bizarre.
34:49
>> And you know the thing about this fire
34:51
too is 3 days after that the monsoon
34:54
came.
34:55
>> Mhm. And um when I found that tree or
34:58
what was left of it, there was just the
35:00
base of the trunk and it burned a spot,
35:04
a circle maybe eight or 10 inches around
35:07
to where you could see through that oh
35:09
hollow burned out stump and I just fell
35:12
to my knees and I said, "Lord,
35:15
only you can fix this. Only you can make
35:19
this country beautiful again. You can
35:21
make the skies so picture clear. You can
35:24
make the trees green again and there
35:26
will be green grass. And I turned around
35:29
Shannon. It was probably there when I
35:31
went by, but I turned around and there
35:33
was three little blades of grass behind
35:36
me that were sticking straight up to
35:38
heaven.
35:39
I said, "Thank you, God. I can make it.
35:54
Were you ever mad at God during this?
35:57
>> I wasn't mad. I just asked him why.
36:00
Yeah.
36:00
>> Why could you let this happen? You know,
36:03
uh, and there's that question a lot in
36:05
life. Why, God, did you let this happen
36:07
to me? I didn't deserve this. God has a
36:10
plan. We may have to take the steps. But
36:15
he knows the path we're on. He may put
36:18
something in that past to test our
36:19
faith, our faith. And
36:24
when I walked back down to the pickup
36:26
and you told me, you said, "We can't
36:28
stay here. This is making me sick."
36:31
>> You and you were determined to stay
36:33
there, I think, because you almost felt
36:34
like you had an obligation to it.
36:37
>> Um like and and it it's weird. It fire
36:41
is a very different
36:43
>> devastation. Yeah. Um, and I remember
36:46
thinking I I I felt like the house was
36:49
almost a person that we had lost. And I
36:51
felt so bad because I thought we left
36:54
you. We left you alone.
36:57
>> We had to go back to Hollis and we left
37:00
you to this fire and it's our fault. It
37:01
was just it's a very weird concept. And
37:06
I remember as we drove out of there and
37:09
the you told me stop
37:12
and there was a lady that owned that
37:14
house before us or maybe two before us
37:17
and she had some rocks out there that
37:20
marked. She didn't
37:21
>> No. No. So this is uh after after this
37:26
had all happened. This was crazy.
37:30
I got an email from a lady and she said
37:33
I don't even know how she figured this
37:34
out but she said
37:36
you owned the house two people before me
37:41
and she just apologized and then um she
37:44
said that house was so special to us and
37:47
we had two um a cat and a dog was buried
37:50
out in the front yard and I remember
37:51
before we before we left I took two
37:53
rocks and I wrote their name in marker
37:55
on them. I
37:56
>> I'm a very strong man. I don't let much
38:00
of the world bother me. You can put a
38:02
lot on me. But I can remember coming in
38:05
one day after this and u just laid my
38:08
head down on the table and cried like a
38:09
baby. And Shen said, "What's wrong?" And
38:12
I said, "I can't be strong anymore. I
38:14
can't do it. I thought I could, but I
38:17
can't." And she said, "You don't have to
38:19
be strong right now. God is strong for
38:22
us." And um
38:26
when we reference back at the first as a
38:29
blacksmith would pump them oellas to
38:32
make the fire white hot.
38:35
>> Mhm.
38:36
>> To bend anything, to shape anything.
38:39
Sometimes you have to walk through fire.
38:43
You have to walk through what God's laid
38:44
out there for you to be molded into the
38:47
person that he wants you to be.
38:49
>> You had mentioned before being baptized
38:51
by fire. Yeah.
38:52
>> Is that what happened?
38:54
>> We got her, sugar,
38:56
>> head to toe.
38:57
>> What was the message?
38:59
>> Never lose faith. He doesn't aim for us
39:02
to go through this alone.
39:04
But was that the first person you
39:07
reached out to when something bad
39:08
happened to you in life? Did you get
39:11
down on your knees and you say, "God,
39:13
get me through this." Or was it, "God,
39:16
why did you let this happen to my house?
39:18
Why did you take this away from me?" You
39:21
know, you there's there's so much out
39:24
there
39:26
that hurts that'll break your heart.
39:30
But I have never went through anything
39:32
bad from losing parents to losing a
39:34
house to losing a beagle that there
39:37
wasn't a blessing in the end of it
39:39
because I told God, "God, you got to get
39:41
me through this. I can't do it. My heart
39:44
is not strong enough by myself." And he
39:46
does.
39:47
>> Yeah. I think when I asked you if you
39:49
were mad at at God and I think a lot of
39:52
people can relate to this um in tragedy,
39:56
you can be very mad at God.
39:57
>> Oh yeah.
39:58
>> Um I wasn't I was like you. I wasn't
40:00
mad. I was just so confused and hurt and
40:04
thought like why?
40:06
>> Yeah.
40:06
>> Um but I think you've made some
40:10
interesting interesting connections
40:13
with fire.
40:14
>> Yeah.
40:16
One being the fire that's your passion
40:20
that you have to stoke that you have to
40:22
keep going
40:24
and then kind of the fire that creates
40:28
rebirth through devastation.
40:30
>> Yeah. you know, and there's been so many
40:34
fires affected people that we know and
40:37
are into industry really sort of in a
40:39
way that we are, and that's ranching
40:41
that have been destroyed.
40:43
And um I guarantee you folks, and I
40:47
don't mean this bad for anybody that
40:49
ain't rural and ain't ranch, them folks
40:51
is rooted deep down in the trust of God.
40:54
I promise you. Because if you're a
40:55
ranger or a farmer, even if you're a
40:58
ditch digger or you're a dentist, if you
41:00
ain't got him deep down in your pocket
41:02
and in your heart, when something like
41:03
this goes on, it'll break you to
41:06
nothing.
41:07
>> I have a question.
41:08
>> Oh,
41:10
>> for everybody. And then also, I have a
41:12
question for you
41:14
to maybe give a message to everyone.
41:16
>> All right.
41:18
>> How do you stoke your fire?
41:19
>> How do you stoke your fire? Well, first
41:22
of all, I think
41:25
your fire has to be a passion that you
41:27
really believe in. You have to pray
41:29
about that. You know, there's there's
41:32
lighter fluid. There's propane you can
41:34
start a fire with. If your passion is
41:37
that fire that you want to do in your
41:38
life and you want to keep it going,
41:41
when you reach for that box of matches,
41:44
it's a Bible. It's God's word. When you
41:48
strike that, it'll light a fire in you.
41:51
But it's you got to surround yourself
41:54
with good wood, which is good people.
41:57
>> Yep.
41:58
>> People that have the faith that you
41:59
have, people that have the strength that
42:01
you have, people that believe in the
42:03
things that you are and you want to be,
42:05
not the people who going to say, "You
42:08
ain't never going to make it. You ain't
42:10
going to mount to nothing." you know,
42:12
>> and and I keeping keeping that going and
42:15
letting one of my favorite verses is let
42:18
your light shine among others so they
42:20
may see your good works.
42:21
>> That's right.
42:23
>> And I think more so we kind of get maybe
42:27
a little indulgent and selfish with our
42:30
passions because it feels so good for us
42:32
to do what we what we love. But then
42:34
when you can share it and share that
42:37
light and be an inspiration to others,
42:39
that's what's really going to make your
42:42
fire grow.
42:42
>> Yeah.
42:43
>> So in that same thought then,
42:46
how do we get over a devastation after a
42:51
fire?
42:53
>> I'm going to look at it this way. I I've
42:56
cooked on a lot of fires and uh from
43:00
especially when I was cooking with hole
43:01
in the ground and the fire go out at
43:03
night. There's nothing left in there but
43:06
ash
43:08
and it just looks bad.
43:11
I mean, what you going to do with it? Do
43:12
you scoop it out of the hole and throw
43:14
new wood in there? I hope there's enough
43:17
ember in there, a little coal left in
43:19
there. If I put some kindling in there,
43:22
it'll start back.
43:24
When that house burnt, there was nothing
43:27
left.
43:28
>> Mhm.
43:28
>> You could scoop up ash. You could scoop
43:30
up anything, but there was nothing left
43:32
that would burn. That burn had to come
43:35
from somewhere else.
43:36
>> It had to come from the man upstairs.
43:40
>> Yep.
43:40
>> And it had There's so many ways you can
43:43
build fire. You can stack it like a
43:45
teepee. You know where it's
43:47
>> or you can stack it like a Lincoln log
43:49
set,
43:51
>> but if you're gonna build a fire that
43:54
lasts,
43:56
make sure number one, we said it before,
43:58
you got a big wood pile. And that's your
44:01
cornerstone. That's God. That's your
44:04
church. That's your faith. And then
44:06
bring as you bring more wood in there,
44:08
that's the people you believe in. That's
44:10
the people that believe in you. And when
44:14
you look at tragedy or you go through
44:15
tra tragedy,
44:19
you can reach out to those around you.
44:21
>> Get another stick of wood. Say, "Hey,
44:23
could you bring some wood over here and
44:25
throw on my fire?" And if they're good
44:27
people, they'll respond. If they're not
44:29
good people, their wood's wet.
44:33
>> You can't do it alone.
44:34
>> No.
44:35
>> Uh I think that's a big like if if I
44:37
could share anything, you can't do it
44:40
alone. And you shouldn't be able to do
44:41
it alone. Um, it's okay to ask for help
44:44
uh from your family, from your friends,
44:47
from God. Wherever you get your
44:49
strength, keep doing that. Where where
44:52
you get your strength, where you find
44:55
that little spark, keep doing that
44:57
because the fire will grow from that.
44:58
>> Yeah. And don't let your ashes grow
45:01
cold.
45:03
>> Because when they're there and they're
45:04
cold and a breeze takes them away from
45:07
you, there's not even a resemblance that
45:09
you were even there.
45:11
I think it now looking back it's um the
45:16
the the smoke is cleared for us. Um and
45:18
we luckily we found the blessings pretty
45:22
quickly after that. Um we found another
45:26
house. We had a great situation there.
45:29
We have a great neighbors now. It's a
45:31
great place community. Um so luckily we
45:37
were able to see that blessing. Now, a
45:40
lot of you
45:42
may have had a tragedy and still don't
45:44
see that blessing. Maybe you're in your
45:46
tragedy and you don't see the blessing.
45:49
>> Stick with it.
45:50
>> Yeah.
45:51
>> Because it will get there. Um
45:53
>> don't give up.
45:54
>> Yeah. Yep. It's But it's hard. It's hard
45:57
when you're in it. But um there is and
46:00
and we've said this before right now, if
46:03
you're in it, it's the little blessings
46:04
you got to look for because that will
46:06
give you a step forward every day.
46:08
>> Yes. So, thank you for um you all
46:11
sitting down with us as we went through
46:14
this little backstory of what the fire
46:17
did h and how we came out of it.
46:20
>> Yeah. We've been baptized by fire,
46:22
sugar.
46:22
>> Yep.
46:23
>> And I've been blessed by smoke that has
46:25
graced me, has drifted across many other
46:27
camps to many other people that I've got
46:29
to meet. But I think if there's anything
46:33
that I could leave them with is
46:36
find your peace in life.
46:39
Throw the wood on it. Strike a match.
46:42
Peace brings happiness. Happiness brings
46:44
joy. And when your heart is full,
46:47
ain't nothing better.
46:48
>> Let her go.
46:49
>> But we thank y'all so much for tuning in
46:51
with us. Uh, leave us a comment. Let us
46:54
know if you've been through a tragedy.
46:57
We'll sure lift you up in prayer. We
46:58
will. Uh, and give us a rating. Right,
47:01
Shan?
47:02
>> Oh, yeah. If you could give us a little
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like or a five star, that would be
47:05
amazing.
47:06
>> It would for that. But it is with great
47:08
pride, honor, and privilege that I tip
47:11
my hat to all our servicemen and women
47:12
and all the veterans that have kept that
47:14
old flag of flying. We commend you all
47:16
and we lift you up in prayer daily. Rest
47:19
of you, hey, y'all aren't fans, you're
47:22
family. We thank you so much for letting
47:24
us come into your life a little bit.
47:26
Don't forget podcast every Sunday,
47:28
cooking video every Wednesday. Uh we got
47:31
you cornered up. We're trying to keep
47:32
you. We love you all. God bless you each
47:34
and every one. I'll see you down the
47:36
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