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A look at the doctrines of Mary the Mother of Jesus
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to work God bless everybody appreciate
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you uh hope you are having a wonderful
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Sunday Lord's Day
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Afternoon um uh just on here on my my uh
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uh regularly scheduled uh stream that I
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do every Sunday first second and third
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Sunday um and uh we're digging into the
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Catholics uh on this one the Catholic uh
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doctrines um
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which are very strange some of them very
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non-biblical some of
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them um so um I'm back I got away from
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my my uh
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um what can I say the my uh my program
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quote quote unquote a little bit I kind
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of got off so I'm getting back on
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track um I want to stick with uh
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major uh
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religions and uh uh and Bible teaching
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stuff I'm getting back on that um so
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this is the this is the way back to that
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um getting back on my my regularly
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scheduled teaching stuff so I wanted to
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talk about the the the Catholic Marian
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do dogmas I was started to say doctrines
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but they're not doctrines they're not
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dogmas there is a difference just let's
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just talk about that before we even get
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started what's the difference what's the
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difference between a Doctrine and a
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Dogma a Dogma is and this I'm be as
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succinct as I can be a Dogma is
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something that um is man oriented man
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ordered this man pushed this agenda
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that's a Dogma a Doctrine is Bible
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oriented it's it's clearly lined out and
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defined in the word of God that's the
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difference between a dogma and a do
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Doctrine so the next time someone tells
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you it's a Dogma or a Doctrine you know
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the difference dogmas are man- centered
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doctrines are God are Bible centered
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word centered so that's the difference
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so this these are the Maran dogmas so
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that should tell you just about
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everything you need to know about them
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upfront uh so uh I'm going to start I'm
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going start uh let's
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see let's get right into to
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it let's go ahead and uh I'm going to
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bring this up so you guys can see my
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work of course as
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always so let's bring it up as a matter
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of fact let me see if I can make that
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bigger
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okay okay
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so as you see on your screen
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here says
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the the four the four there are four
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dogmas stating Mary's personal
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relationship with God and her role in
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human situation and I I wanted to just
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just point out that this is this is a
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Catholic source so nobody can say though
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this Source was tainted this this is uh
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somebody else's view this is not what we
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represent this is a this is a Catholic
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Source Catholic news agency that's where
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that that's where this information is
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coming from so in case you want to look
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it up yourself or whatever as as a
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reference just know it's a Catholic
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Source okay so um number one Divine
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motherhood Divine motherhood now here's
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what it says about Divine motherhood
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Mary's Divine motherhood was proclaimed
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at the Council of Ephesus in
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4:31 okay that's where we came up that's
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where that's where that came from the
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Council of Ephesus in
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4:31 various names are used to describe
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Mary's role as the mother of
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Jesus she is called Mother of God which
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translates the more accurately stated
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Greek
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term Theos
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Theos or birther of God
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it says the Council of Ephesus
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attributed to Mary the
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title listen very closely the Council of
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Ephesus attributed to Mary the title
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Mother of God this needs to be read
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against the council's
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Declaration that in Christ there are two
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Natures one human and one one one one uh
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Divine and one human
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but only one person indeed according to
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the councel of the Holy uh the
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councel oh I'm sorry according to the
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councel the holy virgin is the mother of
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God since she begot according to the
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flesh the word of God made
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flesh y'all tracking with me this
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decision was further explained by the
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Council of ceden 451 which says with
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regard to Mary's Divine
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motherhood begotten from the father
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before the ages as regards to as regards
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his godhead and in the last days the
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same because of us and because of our
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Salvation begotten from the Virgin Mary
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listen listen to Listen to very closely
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our Salvation begotten from the Virgin
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Mary get that the
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theodus as regards his manhood one and
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the same Christ son Lord only
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begotten Mary's Divine motherhood was
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not the the object of an independent or
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exclusive Dogma declaration that's what
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it sounds like to
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me sounds like councils are doing that
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anyway the statement is embedded in
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texts
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defining the person and Natures of Jesus
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Christ I wish somebody would show me
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that thus the dogma of divine motherhood
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becomes an integral part of the the
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christological
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Dogma this does not diminish its
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definitive and binding character the
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dogma of divine motherhood is generally
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accepted by all Christian
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denominations now here's what I have to
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say about
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that
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um
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I'm I'm not I don't know I I don't know
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if I'm ready I'm not I don't know I
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don't think I'm ready to do that I'm not
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I don't think I'm ready to to call her
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the mother of God I have I have problems
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with
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that I have problems with that I I just
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think that I don't know
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uh somebody somebody explain to me
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because I I I I just wrestle with that
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theologically the mother of God and I
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understand is trinitarian language I
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understand that if we say Jesus is the
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second person of the godhead then then
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she's the mother of God I understand all
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that stuff understand the theodus and
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all that type of stuff but I don't know
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if I'm ready to embrace that somebody
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can maybe if you can help me with that
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uh I would I would so much appreciate
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that okay but I just want let y'all know
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how I feel about that so okay so let's
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get back to it let's get back to it just
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let's get back to it okay number
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two Perpetual virginity and remember I
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want you to I want you to understand it
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says it's embedded in text okay um but
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and they show no text here this the
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Catholic uh uh uh website they show no
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text here but they do show you that the
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Council of Ephesus said it and the
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Council of Caledon said it
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and that's all is there anyway but
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anyway number two the Perpetual
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virginity now this one is
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really really strange to me I I've never
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understood this but here's here's what
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the Catholics say it says the expression
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of Perpetual virginity ever virginity or
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simply Mary the Virgin refers primarily
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to the conception and birth of Jesus
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from the first for formulations of Faith
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especially in baptismal form formulas
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and professions of Faith the church
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professed that Jesus Christ was
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conceived without human
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seed okay by the power of the Holy Holy
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Spirit only okay I don't have a problem
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with that so far that's correct okay
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here lies the decisive meaning of the
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expression uh such as conceived in the
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womb of the Virgin
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Mary ver Mary's virginal conception or
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virgin
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birth
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okay the early baptismal formula since
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the thir Century States Mary's virginity
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without further explaining it but there
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is no doubt about its physical meaning
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later statements are more explicit Mary
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conceived without any determent to her
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virginity okay this again I'm not I'm
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not I'm not doubting that that's the
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Virgin birth okay and I just want to say
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before we go any further um there's a
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difference between virgin birth okay and
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the Immaculate Conception uh which is
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coming up next virgin birth virgin birth
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means that she didn't have sex before
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Jesus was born
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but listen to further what this says
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this is we remember we're talking about
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Perpetual virginity which means that she
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continues to be a virgin after Jesus is
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born anyway says Mary conceived without
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any determin to her virginity which
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remained in in inv Violet even after his
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birth Council of the lantern 649
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Council of the
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lurn
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649 although never ex uh explicated in
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detail the the Catholic Church holds as
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Dogma that Mary was and is virgin before
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in and after Christ's
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birth what
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it stresses thus the radical novelty of
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the Incarnation and Mary's no less
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radical and exclusive dedication to her
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Mission as mother of her son Jesus
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Christ do y'all understand
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that Vatican
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2 which is uh which is a Catholic
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Council reiterated that was in 1965
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reiterated the the teaching about Mary
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the ever virgin stating that Christ's
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birth did not diminish Mary's virginal
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Integrity but Sanctified
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it she still she she she was still a
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virgin
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after after having having um
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Jesus and we're going to look in the
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word of God and see if that's true but
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anyway the catechism notice where all
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these sources are Vatican 2 that's uh a
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Catholic uh uh Council the catechism of
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the Catholic church that's where all
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they rules and everything is Ponders the
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deeper meaning of the Virgin bride and
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the Perpetual virgin these are the years
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499 to 507 it also maintains that Jesus
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Christ was Mar's only
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child really look we we going to look we
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going to look they're the so-called
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brothers and sisters are close
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relations okay so what you saying you
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saying that it didn't happen like she
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didn't have any more
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kids between of
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to
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right
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I