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do you believe all men are sinners under
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the descendant are we all um born under
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the the nature of Adam yes including
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Mary no okay um I guess that's there
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that's the disagreement then that's the
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that's right that's a big Yeah that's a
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big that's a big problem so we would say
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all men even including Mary would be
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under the um the nature of Adam you know
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just like through one man sin entered
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the world and that would affect Mary as
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well yeah just like you say that's just
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kind of where we just like you say the
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the prayers of a righteous man availth
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much that that's the same principle that
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we we apply to sin to all of us being
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sin the Bible says all sin have sinned
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and come short of the glory of God that
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includes Mary right it has to to be
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consistent would would you say where
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we're do you see where we're coming