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Mitchell Paige on Indiana Football's Continued Success, B1G Title & Playoff Hopes, and more
Nov 7, 2024
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Mitchell Paige talks about Indiana football's 8-0 start and why it's time to start discussing a potential Big Ten title and playoff appearance. #iufb
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joining us once again here on a Monday on in touch with Indiana Sports is of course the one the only Mitchell page
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former Indiana football wide receiver here to talk once again about the undefeated Indiana hooers now 8-0 still
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at number 13 in the AP poll but the the AP poll is about to be obsolete for
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those like myself who have been you know tracking how how well Indiana is going to jump up in those rankings it's about
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ready to be college football playoff rankings time I don't know if it's this week or next week but it's coming up
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anyway let's talk to our man Mitch who of course was he was at the game once again he's been at every game at home
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except for the FIU opener he was there for game day he was getting down and dirty with the crowd I'm sure so
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Mitchell go ahead and just I want to hear your opening thoughts first on just getting there what was your game day
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experience like for for being in Bloomington this past weekend yeah I got spoiled is what happened this weekend
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usually I'm about the cheapest guy you can imagine so we'd always Park in the popular garage and then walk the two and
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a half miles that it takes to get to the stadium um this week we had a parking pass oh
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did you now for one of the the parking lots like 500 feet from the
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entrance we got there at 6:00 in the morning had our little fire going I've been spoiled I don't know how
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much those cost but those will be in my possession next week or next year
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probably so you got there super early what was the the tailgate like at at 6 in the
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morning with a fire we were the first ones in the lot uh it was honestly a
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really cool we were probably the only ones there for like 20 minutes 25 minutes and then it started filling in
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fast there were a bunch of other people coming early if you have I think I've said this
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every week but if you have not been to a game John we were talking about this pregame or pre podcast if you haven't
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been find a way to get to Bloomington you got two chances left there's just
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something about the air there right now it's there's a little bit of magic you just you need you've been saying that
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too since probably week three maybe you've been talking about magic in Bloomington for a while I'm starting to
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really believe in it there is something I don't know what it is there's something
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it's you you feel like untouchable when you're there and then the team comes out
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and just rolls people which just adds to the aura that is Bloomington right now
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it's it's a crazy I can't even explain it they're so good they can beat you in
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every way I don't know we talked about I think last week but there's a lot of teams
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that I've watched this year that are supposed to be pretty good I don't
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know I don't know so with and sticking with the the early morning hours did you
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did you decide to get into the thick of things with the college game Bay crowd since you were there so
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early I tried there were thousands of kids already there
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when we walked over at 6:45 there was still I mean it looked like a full set of people so I yeah I walked over there
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but I never got very close because it was packed how do you feel that
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Bloomington has handled having a lot of people at the football stadium consistently now cuz I heard a couple of
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Nebraska fans you could probably guess which ones it's really just one Nebraska fan and a Purdue fan and uh they talked
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about some some parking or you know traffic issues in Bloomington do you feel like they've rectified that or is that just people angry about Indiana
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football there's always been traffic and there's just a little bit more traffic there's 60,000 people probably more on a
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bunch of single Lane roads like there's no way to rectify it I don't care if you have everyone going One Direction and
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you got to Loop there's no way it didn't matter if it was before or after like
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there's just a bunch of people around it's fine I had no problem even when I
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was parking where I was parking before it was a lot easier with the parking pass but um yeah I think they've done a
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fine job the there's bathrooms everywhere now the lines are pretty long because there's so many people
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but if you think that it's a bad experience going to Indiana I can't help you I'm sorry yeah I think I really hope
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that I'm able to make it up there for one of the two remaining home games and I I don't even know at this point in
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time which one is more likely I'd love to see them face either one I think Indiana's going honestly here's what I'm
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saying I think Indiana's biggest chance to lose and we'll talk about this in a little bit is this weekend and it's not
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because I think Michigan state is that much better than Indiana I don't think they're better than Indiana at all but
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to me just the fact that it's it's week what 10 technically week nine for Indiana because they've had a bye and
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they haven't been in a real Road environment and I have no reason to think that Michigan State won't show out
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against a team that is as good as Indiana uh maybe I'm already diving into this now since I've already brought it
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so we can go Ahad and go down this path if need be but it's definitely going to be something we haven't seen any part of
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this Indiana team face whether it be Tav Jackson or roor who ends up taking the snaps this coming Saturday it's going to
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be a unique environment and I do think cetti will have them prepared I do think
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it was helpful that they finally had a little bit of real adversity this past
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weekend against Washington and when I say real vers I know they still haven't trailed but Indiana it took them a while
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to really put away this Washington team and when you had the way that this team finished the first half where they
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couldn't get across the goal line fourth and inches whatever it was third and inches it felt like it would have been a
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guaranteed touchdown you end up settling for a field goal and then you follow that up by uh throwing an an
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interception on the first play or second play of the first or first drive of the third quarter and Washington goes down
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and scores to make it a three-point game that's probably you could correct me if I'm wrong Mitchell the most adversity
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that this Indiana team has faced all season long and they responded in a big way yeah it was definitely the most
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adversity I may be different than other people I
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never felt like we're in trouble though they moved the ball really well Washington I I think they're pretty good
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on offense but for some reason man these
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guys they're just they're stingy they make plays when they need to Indiana on defense uh and they do just enough on
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offense they just pounded Washington to a pulp for four quarters and eventually
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you're just going to break when you're getting six seven eight yards AP pop running the
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ball with a quarterback that really had a I thought harder time finding his
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rhythm I thought he played fine he just never got into his kind of flow that
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allows you to really get explosive but they stayed on schedule it it never
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still felt like the game was in doubt but you are right uh I think Michigan State losing to Michigan maybe helps
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Indiana a little bit because the crowd may not be as uh and I agree I was worried if they were to beat Michigan
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them feeling Juiced coming into the Indiana game you know I mean they'll be Juiced anyway but having that extra
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oomph after you beat your your instate rival with Michigan yeah they put up a
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heck of a fight against Michigan now it maybe a little bit of a pillow fight between the two teams because I think Michigan stink cheeks dude they stink
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but they're still physical and it's a rival war game where anything can happen I think Michigan State's a little
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Tougher Than People want to give him credit for they record maybe doesn't show it
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but I agree I I think outside of this past weekend in Washington this is a game I look at on
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the schedule where it's like oh I don't know I don't know quite how I feel about that one yet I think having Curtis
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workback a six-year guy that just feels like he's in total command all the time is really gonna help cross your fingers
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that he's going to be back but even with Dave and Jackson I think that Indiana is going to be able to control the tempo
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um and control the physicality control the line of scrimmage really effectively and kind of do what they just did to
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Washington where maybe it takes a little bit longer but eventually you just lean on them long enough that you make enough
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plays defense makes enough plays and I don't think Michigan States offense is near as potent as Washington I thought
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that quarterback played great um so I I think that it'll if it's a Tav
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Jackson type game I think it's another one where you just lean on them and kind of suck the air out of the game over the
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course of four quarters you know one thing that the announcers kept mentioning on Saturday is that
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Washington has even though they're only four and four well four you know they were four and three before the game they were four and four after the game they
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have outgained every single one of their opponents which is a very interesting stat to not have a better record and they actually did the same thing this
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past weekend against Indiana which I don't know if I would have guessed that and it was barely it was 318 yards to
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312 and they did do a good job at kind of making the Indiana offense I don't
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want to say try to be more creative because I don't really think Indiana did a whole lot of things creatively when it
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comes to the offense but what they did do well was just manage what they were
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able to do I think one thing that this Indiana team does better than maybe any team in the country is just knowing what
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they're good at and playing to their strengths and not trying to do too much to try to just do it because it's the
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flashy play you didn't see Tav Jackson do anything that was truly out of the
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ordinary for him this week and I think that really goes to show how well Kurt cetti coaches this team into making sure
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that they know exactly what they're supposed to do even if they're in situations that maybe aren't favorable
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they're not going to do anything dumb to put themselves in position to make you know a stupid mistake even the
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interception they had it wasn't a stupid mistake it was just a really hard thrown ball that really you could have thrown
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Pi Pi at wanted to it could have how could you not
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he was there a second and a half early it's almost like the fact I think the play happened so fast that the
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officials didn't realize that they could have caught Pi on it I mean he's standing right there I don't I the fact
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was we don't need to talk too much about the the the the non call but I think the ball was thrown so quickly at whoever
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the receiver was at the time that by the time it bounced off of I don't know if it was his helmet or whatever it was
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they weren't even thinking about the fact that the Washington Defender kind of rans sacked him before the ball even
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was able to get to him I don't know how you don't think about that how do you get a bounce like you think that he just
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punched the ball backwards I I'll say this I did watch and you're aware of this Mitchel I
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watched the game yesterday so I didn't have to watch it with all of the stress of what the hell is going to happen so I
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wasn't angry when I saw the play so maybe maybe not having that emotion toward it is why I'm talking differently
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about it I wasn't angry it just was stunning like there's a middle judge a
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back judge that's standing five yards from it there's a side judge that's standing eight yards from it there's
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referees everywhere how can no one see this and that I think that's been kind of a universal theme in college football
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some of the how these guys have jobs as referees is stunning and I'm not saying
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this group is a part of it but I think it's more of just a kind of a pandemic in college football so when that kind of
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stuff happens to you you just kind kind of take it and all right let's move on this is what the game is don't have
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robot refs yet not quite like the I guess it's the ml is it the MLB do they they don't use
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robot umps but they do they use some Z or whatever yeah the robot Strike Zone yeah
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yeah uh let's talk some Big Picture stuff and we've we've been slowly diving more and more into this I feel like as
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the weeks have gone on this team is now8 and0 they have tied their best start of all time at in 1967 when they went to
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the Rose Bowl all it takes is one more win and you're officially I mean can we
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can we go ahead and say that because it was the 60s do you think that this is no matter where they finish right Mitchell
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do you think this is the best Indiana football team of all time it may sound ridiculous to make that statement but
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when you know how many bad football teams Indiana has I don't think it's as difficult to declare that as some may
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think yeah I mean they went to the Rose Bowl it's awesome great
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I'd have a hard time believing there's a team in history that beats this one yeah just they're multiple they're
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balanced they're physical and sure they're I'm sure that 19 this is no disrespect to those guys they done the
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coolest thing in program history um but not for long I would imagine I would
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imagine that we will not be talking about the 67 team as much as we do because everything that they did is
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about to be outdone is I guess yeah again one went away from nine and0 and
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and who I was going to say who really knows what the ceiling is I think we know what the ceiling is it's just a
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matter of will they get it done this team absolutely has the ability to get to the Big 10 championship game they
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absolutely have the ability to be in that first 12 team college football playoff and I think they have the
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ability to knock off Elite teams I know I feel it feels like the only people left that are Reg ly doubting Indiana
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are those it's not necessarily those who haven't watched Indiana but it's those who regularly watch you know the Ohio
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States the Oregons you know the alabas those who are always at the top of college football they're just waiting to
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see Indiana compete against one of those guys before they fully buy into whether or not this team can do it and you know
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I tend to fall into like I don't want to necessarily say I believe everything that they say but being kind of the I'm
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definitely a positive person like half glass full when it comes to Outlook on my team usually even when things aren't
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going well but there's always that that creeping doubt on will they be able to put together the type of performance
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that we've seen when they do play those that do have the Elite Talent and I do think Indiana is a part of the the you
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know Elite teams it's just a matter of can they go toe-to-toe with those guys when the pressure is really on I think
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they would be able to but again I mean we're going to see that here in the next few weeks weeks they got Ohio State
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coming up I mean even though Michigan's having a bad season or you know by their standards are not having a very good
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season they still have all the town in the world to where if you do beat them to a pulp I think that would be I mean
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that should definitely be again another indicator that this team is on a different level compared to most but you
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still see people doubting I don't even know really know what it would take I guess maybe winning the conference for
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people to to stop thinking this team is just benefiting from an easy schedule I
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know I'm kind of going on and on here and I've mentioned multiple things so I'll let you shut me up Mitchell but I
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just wanted to mention all that stuff yeah I think what I'm I have two things I have two answers
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to this one is more the reality of the
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situation I'm on Twitter a lot and even I am getting people saying they've never played anybody they haven't those people
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are morons you don't understand anything about football you don't understand college football you don't understand
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how much talent are on any of these teams right Western Illinois and Indiana there's a big Talent
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Gap Washington and really anyone else UCLA and really anyone else I mean
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you watch what UCLA started doing they went to LSU who most people think we're going to win the SEC until they go to
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Texas A&M and barely lose in one of the toughest environments in the country UCLA had them on the ropes Indiana beat
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the breaks off them so if you don't
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understand how this all works then you can continue to doubt Indiana if you've
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watch them for one second and you watch how they beat people you understand that there is absolutely a
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chance that Indiana is as good or better as any team from any
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conference that they could play for the rest of the season that's just the reality I don't care what conference they come from I don't care what it says
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on the side of their helmet Indiana is a efficient and
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effective in every phase as any team in America currently that's just the
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reality if you want to say no you're a but fine the reason that I say
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fine I kind of like it I think cetti and the boys kind of thrive on how stupid
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people are to continue to doubt how good they are and I'm starting to feel real good
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about Columbus even not even not yeah aend Michigan
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those ones feel kind of like stepping stones just kind of kick them out of the way and thankfully I'm sitting here and
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not in the locker room I'm sure they won't treat those games that way but just kind of see you later guys thanks
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for playing here's the way I look at the Ohio State game now too not only did they struggle with Nebraska this past
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weekend I do think Nebraska is better than what they did against Indiana I do
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think a lot of that is because of how good Indiana is yes but here here here's why I like the way the Ohio State game
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set up there's a couple different things believe it or not I kind of like that this is a road game right now at the beginning of the season I didn't because
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people will chalk it up as an automatic loss or something that you should lose but Ohio State right now is already
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feeling the pressure because of the way that their fan base is and Indiana basketball is the same way as it by the
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way because of the pressure that Ohio state has to perform and live up to
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these expectations I don't see playing loose against a potentially undefeated
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Indiana team that again had I don't want to say they have nothing to lose because at this point you do have something to
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lose but again you're playing with that chip on your shoulder that everybody doubts you you're going into the shoe people think you don't have a chance
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Ohio State's going to be expected to perform well against an Indiana team
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because they're perceived to have this Superior talent to everybody else in the
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Big 10 and that's one reason why I like with this current situation I know at
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this I feel like we're getting way ahead of ourselves right now we still have to watch him play Michigan State and Michigan but it is fun to talk about
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what could happen because we are potentially going to get there eventually but I think that tends to
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favor Indiana because Ohio State already has a loss they lose again they're not
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going to the big 10 Championship they may be able to sneak into the college football playoff depending on what
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happens conferences that's it just because because of their helmet yeah absolutely that's the only so they're
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they're going to be feeling I mean Indiana can afford to lose and probably still they could they can get in the Big
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10 title game with a loss potentially and make the college football playoff with a loss in that if Ohio State beats
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Penn State Indiana is driving the Ferrari to the Big 10 Championship yeah that's just the
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reality it's just the reality they're two undefeated teams left in the Big
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10 Oregon and Indiana and I don't State's unbeaten Penn State would still
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be that's what I said if Ohio State beats Penn State this okay I thought you said the other way around I got you I
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may have said the other way around what I meant is Ohio State beats Penn State driver
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seat driver seat but again though then you there's still that very weird
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scenario where you could have actually I talked about this with Jeffrey the Greek last week where you have a big
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tiebreaker and you're you know 11 and one or whatever but here here's the the Silver Lining with this didn't think
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about there's almost a benefit to being on the outside looking in with that
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tiebreaker and not playing in the Big 10 Championship because yeah You' probably get a not as good seed in the 12 team
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playoff but you get to arrest your guys if you have anybody who's hurt that needs to fully recover but and you're
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still I don't see any one lost team from a power conference missing out on the
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playoff even if you do miss your conference title game so there's almost
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you know a good you don't want to miss the Big 10 Championship but there there is some benefit potentially if there is
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a tiebreaker scenario and you're 11 and one and you get to sit out an extra week before the
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playoff yeah I would argue that if you get to the Big 10 Championship even with
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one loss you'll probably host that first weekend and yeah you still got to win if
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you win the Big 10 Championship obviously that's best case scenario you don't even have to play the first weekend but if you miss out on the Big
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10 Championship you're probably going to someone that's pretty good in the most
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insane environment that that Stadium's ever seen yeah because you have to
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whatever HomeField Advantage a team has on a weekly basis during the season
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multiply it by a hundred with this on the line we we've never seen anything like this so you have to factor in it's
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a yeah there's the 12th man this might be the 13th 14th 15th like it it is going to be a different different world
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I think you need to do everything you can to find a way in there so you can be the one hosting at worst I've made the
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uh com we'll find out whether or not this ends up raining true or not but I feel like these this uh these first
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round college football playoff games are going to give off similar Vibes to the
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opening weekend of the NCAA tournament and I know those games aren't played played in home environments but the
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chaos that ensues with those types of games and I'm not saying that you're going to see Road teams upsetting the
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home team a lot but just the the environment is going to be similar to that of a NCAA tournament type of a game
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for basketball just because it feels like there's so much more on the line when you get to that again we've never
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experienced it with the 12 team playoffs so it'll be brand new but it feels like it's just going to bring that type of
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energy when you get to that point for sure I I think it's in my head it's the
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AFC NFC championship games that's that's what's in my head it's home there's a
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chance to go to the Super Bowl especially if Indiana's hosting I can't even imagine what that place is going to
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be they might have to build an upper deck just to house all the people um but
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yeah it's you can't underestimate how important it is to
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have that at your place if you're going to have it I think it's because football's so much different
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than basketball basketball you can make some threes and kind of keep yourself in it
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in football you got to deal with the front seven in the offensive line that's why you don't see those big upsets very
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often because the big people usually win and all the big people are at the big school so yeah Boise State beat Oklahoma
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however many years ago that was awesome they've played great against Oregon but Oregon eventually
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wins Boise State looks awesome this year they're going to have to beat somebody
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that's bigger faster and stronger now they got a great back but at their place you're gonna have to go in there and
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win and it's the same thing in basketball where yeah it doesn't happen very often that
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125 kind of a upset but it's at least once a year and I just I think
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football's just so much harder because it's so much more physical to get an upset like that yeah
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so you need to have it at your house I
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think which is crazy that we're even talking about this yeah and again that's why I keep as you sometimes as you as
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you are speaking on this segment for some reason today I'm thinking in the back of my mind like what are we accomplishing I feel like I don't my
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fear is that we're two weeks down the road and we're like we're a bunch of morons we've lost two in a row what were
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we thinking I don't want to think like that that is the previous Indiana football mentality that has been
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instilled in us because we have been taught that we are the bottom of the barrel and I don't mean to say we I know
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I'm just a fan I guess Indiana in general is a bottom of the barrel
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program they should not be here and that's that's what I'm trying to get to escape my mind because this is not that
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this is Kurt signet's Indiana and it's something that's totally different I hope it lasts a long time that is also
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something that continues to worry me is that somebody and this is going to happen Happ regardless I just hope that
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the Indiana Administration is prepared to counter whatever any other big time program throws at him because they're
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he's going to have bag after bag after bag thrown at him if he hasn't had it
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happen already it would not surprise me in the slightest if those down at the
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University of Florida or at programs similar have already talked to him personally about doing something after
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the season and I think again just based on the way that Signet carries himself I don't think he would humor it right now
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maybe he would talk with him after the fact but you know that the BigTime programs want this guy there's not
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there's not a program in the country that would turn down a Signet at this
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point and then we we'll wrap this up after this I know we're going pretty long but I did want to bring that up at
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least once for sure it's hard to win
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it's almost unbelievable what he's doing right now and not almost it just is and
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there's Maggie in the background say hello shout out to Maggie Paige it's really hard to just do this
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week in and week out and create this in what seems like five minutes Juggernaut team that just
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rolls over everybody and there's going to be other schools that maybe don't have better budgets I
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think one of the most um what people don't know the most about Indiana football is how much money
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there is can you hear her yeah it's fantastic she's fired up this morning
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she is fired up she's still unbeaten too by the way she is unbeaten she's 16 and0
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um people don't understand how much money there is in the football program for upgrades
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for players for coaches in the last year and a half the influx of
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cash into the program I don't think people really understand can comprehend now can we match the biggest
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of the big the Texas A&M type offer to Mike Elko probably not but no one
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neither can anyone else and if that's what drives cetti you know I wish him
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the best I think what Indiana fans can kind of sleep well at night knowing that
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one he's 63 gonna be 64 he's got all his buddies with him at Indiana all the
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coaches he's been with forever his wife loves it as he continues to talk
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about and he's still kind of in the process of building something right like
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there's there's potential to turn Indiana into a year in year out kind of juggernaut with what's in
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[Music] place with what's in place she's talking
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uh and he kind of strikes me as someone that may want to
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may want to see that through because he turned JMU into that in
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FCS was on his way in the FBS but it's not in the biggest
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conference now you're at a place like Indiana that's in the biggest conference
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you can turn the thing around which he seems to love to do and you can also do it on the biggest stage imaginable in
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college football with all the things that are going to be changing over the next couple years if you're not in the Big 10 or the SEC kind of feels like
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sorry about you they seem to be running the world and he's got a spot there and
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with a fan base that would literally die for him so that's the thing cetti I
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don't think anyone at this point I hly unless they get fired no head coach is leaving either the Big 10 or the SEC for
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the Big 12 ACC or or any other conference at that point you're either going to stay within conference or jump
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to the other major power and of course in this scenario would be the SEC so we'll have to wait and you know that's a
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bridge we'll have to talk about or cross and talk about after the season potentially who knows um and there's
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plenty of other angles we can look at once we get to that point in the season but for now we're going to continue to
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enjoy it we are going to you know hope that this ride continues on and you know
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the stakes continue to get higher and higher again they're they're going for their best start in school history against Michigan State they're battling
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for the spatoon once again the first of two trophy games for the regular season this used to feel like the Pinnacle of
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what Indiana was playing for get your trophies back the spatoon and the old Oaken Bucket and that was it now it just feels like not I want to call it an
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afterthought but you know it's just it's just different they're playing for something more so I will tell you there's nothing
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like going and getting that trophy back the spatoon or any any trophy just
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running and getting it back is that's a different feeling yeah even if it's or if it's on
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your side line whatever it is like after the game I know probably no one else in
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the country cares about those two trophies but it's a different kind of feeling when you have that um I bet the boys are
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fired up today I I guess that they're gonna have a pretty good week of practice because the
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rivalry games they do matter um especially inside the building that'll
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be interesting to see I I always think of Ralph green when I think of the spatoon by the way
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that big picture of him holding it up yeah spitting dis Indiana football icon of course iconic picture all right
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Mitchell we've uh I've kept you way too long but I I I know you've enjoyed it so I do appreciate it and I hope we get to
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keep having fun conversations I know I say this at the end of each segment every week but again like you said it
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feels like magic I don't want the magic to disappear I'm enjoying it and I hope it stays around for a long time coming
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keep it going forever it's the best best my life
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