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£5,500, and they'll also see an average increase in their pensions of around £100 per week
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I'm joined now by David Turton. He's a former South Yorkshire miner
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David, what do you make to the news today about the pensions? Well, it's brilliant news, but to correct you, thousands what will benefit from it
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there's thousands what won't benefit from it, who have passed away, unfortunately, in the last year
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the widows will benefit from it but some of them who haven't got widows
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the pension will die with them but it's a good decision it could have been made a year ago when the NUM decision was made
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and they could have treated us all the same and probably a thousand more people
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would have benefited from it at that time. And this BSCCC scheme it's different, just tell us about that. The National Union Mine Workers
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scheme is simple, it's for the workers, I'll class That's the only one of the workers, there's workers, because they're the people who did
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the physical work down the pit. BSCC is for NACODs, which is National Association of Coloury Overmed Deputies and Short Fires
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managers under managers engineers mechanical engineers electrical engineers office workers in Doncaster or wherever in the country they are if they supervisors they would benefit from the BC SSS scheme
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So it's for workers and people who work but don't get as dirty, if that's how you put it
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But the British coal staff superniation scheme has been going probably 40, 30, 40 years longer than the NUM scheme
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The NUM scheme didn't start by roughly 78. and ours were a lot before that
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So there's a difference in the payments which the NUM have received
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to what we will receive. So that'll cause a bit of an argument
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In fact, I've had a discussion today when I came with an NUM member
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who were a bit aggrieved because I was getting more than he got
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But it's all dependent on your years of service, how much you've paid in, you know
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and how well the trustees and the investors look after the pension, you know, to produce this surplus
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I must add that the Telegraph has said that the government are giving us money
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and they gave the NUM money. They didn't. The money was already in our scheme
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It's money that's been generated by investments in our scheme, and it's money that's been paid in
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with everybody paying 6 of the salary for the whole of the working life And that that billion that in there That that billion which is a surplus So how do you feel about how the government have treated former miners
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especially in areas like this in South Yorkshire, obviously? It's good news about the pensions, but do you think more still could be done
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I think more could still be done because I've no doubt when they have an actual evaluation in future
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that will throw up a surplus as well. And I think there should be an agreement between the government and the unions now, the NUM and NACODs, that future surpluses are automatically paid to the beneficiaries
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So then we're getting the full value for the money we've put into the scheme
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What more would you like to see from the government and will you still be wanting to vote Labour now they've changed this or given this boost
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Before this even came up, I don't think anybody had been wanting to vote Labour
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because there were a lady in power a few years ago who said, I'm not for turning
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This guy spins round on a wheel. He turns all the time
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He's made a decision today which has gone back on hand to the farmers
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He's changing his mind all the time. You cannot follow what he's going to do
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He going to stop the fuel allowance for pensioners Then he ain going to stop the fuel allowance for pensioners you know is you cannot you cannot understand where the guy is coming from And I think the problem with politics nowadays
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we've got 600 people or so in the House of Commons, probably 450 or more have come from universities
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There is no common sense left in the government. There's no common sense
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They're all too clever and they've never lived a proper life. They don't know how Fred and Harry and Mick and Jack and Maureen and June
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and they don't know the conversations they have in the clubs and the pubs
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So they can't represent them because they don't understand what they want
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They want a good health service and they want good health care for the elderly
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It's not rocket science. they announce a change in taxation in cars
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Let's do it simple. Let's put the same tax on every single car
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No, no. We'll have three pence a mile. What for? When I drive in Europe, I'll pay three pence a mile
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You know, ridiculous. Make things difficult. If you can make things difficult, this government don't
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Thank you, David. Thank you so much for joining us on GB News. So good news for former miners today
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but David's saying he still wants to see more common sense from the government
