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You are a leading MP, and our viewers and listeners might not know about this group
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It's called Blue Labour. Just tell us what it is and what he's trying to do while you're involved in it
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Yeah, so very simply speaking, we are pro-worker. We're economically to the left, so we're very much in favour of public ownership of the key industries, for instance
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and absolutely we reject the kind of capitalist consensus that has grown up over the last few decades
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which I think the Labour Party has perhaps not been as confident and challenging in recent decades
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But we're also where the public are on the social issues, much closer than perhaps some other parts of the Labour Party
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So wanting low-controlled immigration, backing the police to be a force for good, patriotic
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So it's a combination of things which has perhaps become rare in the Labour Party
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but actually it really kind of would describe our greatest Prime Minister, Clement Attlee
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You know, he would have been Blue Labour. So it really not perhaps as different as it would have been a few decades ago but we kind of drifted towards this hyper as a party and we need a course correction So that what Blue Labour is about Now you talked about wanting low and managed immigration I noticed you didn talk about
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you didn't use the phrase illegal immigration. So immigration as a whole is too high
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Yes, it's about both. Absolutely. So obviously, the boats is the most visible sign that we
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have not got control of our borders. And we need that control. But I've written a lot
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about legal migration levels overall. So, you know, the thing that really finished the Conservatives
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at the last election was they said, after Brexit, we did have control of our borders
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we're going to be able to reduce immigration. It went sky high, nearly a million net migration in a year
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So they basically stuck two fingers up to their new voter coalition and said, actually, we're not going to do
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what you've actually been asking politicians of all stripes to do for the last 20 years
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So immigration, there's always going to be immigration, there's always going to be immigration
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but actually we want it to be balanced. We want to think about what do we want immigration to be
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for our economy, for our country, rather than just having this open borders policy
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which, as we've seen, has just failed
