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Watch the world exclusive sit-down GB News interview with Donald Trump and the People Channel's Bev Turner in full. From the US President's plan to sue the "corrupt" BBC for an eye-watering sum to Sir Sadiq Khan's work as London Mayor, the pair discussed a litany of issues. In the Oval Office, Mr Trump hit out at the broadcaster as he told Bev he has an "obligation" to sue the corporation, warning: "This is beyond fake. This is corrupt!"CHOPPER'S ANALYSIS: Get ready for the legal case of the decade - Donald Trump's comments are a disaster for the BBCWATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW ABOVE
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Mr President, thank you for giving GB News this opportunity to talk to you and to hear from you
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We've spent some time on your trips to the UK recently and had some conversations
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but this is the first time we're getting to sit down and talk. And I've spent a little while in America now and have been really struck by the sense of positivity here
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the can-do attitude is really in contrast to the UK and more broadly Europe actually
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which feels like it's in the doldrums at the moment, economically, socially, really struggling
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Right. And that's been a long-term project, I think. But you've proven that leaders don't just have to sit around writing strongly worded letters
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You can actually get stuff done in a short space of time. How have you done it
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Well, if you look, you talk about Europe and other places, but this was a place that was moral bound
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It was a disaster, the U.S., under the Biden administration. And there was no spirit. Nobody wanted to go into the military
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You know, their recruitment was at record lows or everything that was bad
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It just couldn't get, I don't think, much worse outside of a total collapse
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And we've turned it around. You know, it's my 10th month. And I think nobody's done what I've done
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It's the hottest country in the world right now. The U.S. right now is the hottest country in the world
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The king of Saudi Arabia, other leaders, they said a year ago, your country was dead
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And now you have the hottest country in the world. So it can be done. I'm so sad to see what happened in Europe with the immigration
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I think above all else, the immigration, but the bad taxing policies
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When you look at, you know, Europe is not the same place
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I can't say every place, but pretty much almost every place or a couple of places
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and I won't even get into that because those are the people, the leaders that aren't liked by the other European leaders
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But what's happened is so sad to Europe. And I think probably you have the same problem that we do with the fake news
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If you don't get the news out improperly, it's never going to change
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But Europe, I love Europe. Hey, I'm originally from Europe. Scotland, yeah
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And between Scotland and Germany. a German father and Scottish mother, and a great mother, by the way, I have to tell you
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great father, great mother. So I have a little prejudice toward Europe and those two places
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but so sad to see what they're doing. So how have you done it? Is it about your team
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your vision, your drive? You know, from day one, you were signing executive orders
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The pace of change here is remarkable. I almost don't know what you're going to do for the next
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few years? You've done so much in such a short space of time. Well, we have a strong border
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We have a lot of spirit. DEI is dead. It's dead. It's not even talked about anymore
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You know, like I saw this morning on television, a well-known Democrat congressman fighting with
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the anchor, somebody like you, but not as talented because you wouldn't have let him get away with it
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but fighting over men playing in women's sports. I said they haven't learned because
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we won in a landslide. We won everything. We won all seven swing states. We won by millions of votes
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popular. We won in every way you could win in like record numbers. And I see this man fighting
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with an anchor about men playing in women's sports. Here we go again about open borders
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He wants open borders where people can come in from prisons. I mean, when you look at Europe
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where they're coming from, they're coming from some of the worst places on earth and you're destroying your country. And I've told some of the leaders of Europe, you've got to stop. Your
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immigration is going to destroy you. If you get people from the wrong people, in our case, we had
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people coming in from jails, from mental institutions, from the drug dealers, and some of the worst scum
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And we're getting them out, and we've got a lot of them out. If you look at some of our cities that
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we've sent the military in to correct. Washington, D.C. was very unsafe, and now it's the safest place
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in the country. It took me two months to make it good. Less, actually, but two months to make it
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really good. Now, everyone's having dinners there. We have these beautiful, nice military guys all
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over the place, and they look good. You know, to me, they look good because it means safety, but
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we took out 1,700 career criminals and criminals from other countries that came in like they come
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into your country. And Europe has to do something about it. Well, we are doing something. Even
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Chicago, we have a bad governor and a bad mayor, and we're fighting with them all the time. But
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crime is down now 40 percent. And we've just done a little a little splurge and crime is down 40
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percent in Memphis. We're in Memphis right now. Memphis, Tennessee, very, very dangerous, bad
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place. We've almost got it fixed. And this is after a month, less than a month. What it shows
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is it can be done. And Washington, D.C. is such a great example because people were afraid to walk
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outside. And now they're walking down with their children in the middle of the street
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I'm a big fan of the National Guard here. I'm pretty much on first name terms with the guys on
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the corner of my street. And they're so friendly. And you see them putting shopping in the car of
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old women and it counters this idea that they're an aggressive presence on the street they're not
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we've got such a crime problem in london and i wonder whether sadi khan should do something
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similar terrible terrible mayor and as an example you know i was a high-ranking officer sort of
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always or a president uh even as a civilian you know i was a respected person he treated me very
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badly. I said, who is that guy? He's a terrible mayor. And look at the crime you have in London
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My mother loved London. She loved that city. She'd always talk about, that was a different
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London than you have today. Today you have people being stabbed in the ass or worse
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But no, it's crazy. It's true. It's awful. It is. And it feels much safer here
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Your mayor is a disaster. Okay. I can tell, I don't know him. I don't even know what, if you put him there, I wouldn't even know who he was. I can tell you he is a disaster. He's a nasty
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person. And he's letting crime go. You have areas in London, and you have this in Paris, too
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where the police don't even want to go anywhere near those areas. You have Sharia law, where they
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don't even want to obey the laws of your country or France or other countries. And you have much
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worse conditions than even that. It's crazy what's gone on with Europe. And, you know, I'll do this
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interview. I hope it's not too controversial because, to be honest with you, it's just fact
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It's not like there should be no controversy. And they have to do something. One other thing
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energy. Your country has the North Sea. It's one of the greatest energy fields in the world
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They make it impossible for anybody to drill environmentally. They make it. And taxation-wise
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they want almost a hundred percent of the money that comes out so you have
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these great oil companies that can't go there because and you know then they say
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well it's been there a long time it's used you've got a thousand years of life
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there that one of the most vibrant and it also some of the best oil you know it really you know you have good oil medium oil but you have some of the best oil Some of it so good you almost don have to refine it
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It's so good. You have this huge asset sitting there and you're destroying your country with windmills all over the place
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I mean, I fly over Scotland and I fly over parts of the UK
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in helicopter a lot, and I'm looking down and I see these gorgeous fields
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being destroyed by windmills. the most expensive energy you can get. It's intermittent because if it's not windy, you don't even get it
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But to put up those things means you lose millions of dollars every time you put up a windmill
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You lose millions of dollars because they don't make money. They lose money. You're supposed to make money with energy
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And you have, boy, do you have an asset. If they would open up the North Sea again, you could open it up in split seconds
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Every oil company would want it. Look at Norway as an example
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Norway's a very rich country. They have the North Sea, too. They say you have the best part of it
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Who knows? But Norway's immensely wealthy because of the North Sea, same North Sea as you have
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Why don't they do something? Why don't they supply your country? You know, your energy costs are among
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the highest in the world. It's crazy. It's got to be because there is this assumption that the
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climate is warming up because of man and that we have to have more renewables
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And renewables in principle sound like a great idea, use the sea and the wind
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Beautiful words, a disaster. And, you know, when they talk about the climate, the whole thing is a hoax
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They used to say it was started by other countries to cause problems. And they used to call it global warming, but that didn't work because it started getting cold
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They even called it many years ago global cooling. But those things don't work. So now they call it climate change because with climate change, you can't lose
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It's the whole thing is a hoax. And your country, among others, but your country is one of the worst
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You talk about UK. It's one of the worst in the world. They believe this nonsense is fiction
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As an example, China, very smart. They sell they sell the windmills
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Almost all of them used to be Germany and China. Now it's mostly China. and yet if you go around China you see almost no wind farms so they make the windmills and they
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sell it to the suckers you know the stupid people but they don't have them themselves they use oil
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and gas they use coal but they don't use the wind but I think it takes real backbone as a
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country's leader to stand up in a room like he did in New York with the UN which was for me it
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was one of the greatest moments I could watch that speech I loved it it was brilliant they took away
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my teleprompter purposely. It was a joy to watch because you dropped
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so many truth bombs on that room of globalists. I had no script
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It was just brilliant. The UN took away my teleprompter. I know
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Just before I got up, I said, hmm, I'm being introduced to say
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ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the United States of America, President Donald Trump
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And I'm looking, I'm saying. After the escalator had already broken as well
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on the way up. The escalator stopped. And it didn't stop like, you know, it stopped
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And I had my wife in front of me. Fortunately, I said, I just grabbed
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But it came to a sudden halt. Like you heard the crash
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So that was the beginning of the day. And then I got on there. And I'll tell you something that nobody knows
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The speakers in the room were off. So the only people that heard me were people either listening to television, which is still your biggest audience
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But we had 158 leaders in the room. And unless they were wearing the earphones, you couldn't hear a word that I said
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In fact, I went out. I thought I gave a good speech considering the fact I had absolutely. It was terrible
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I loved it because I thought you were relating in that moment to so many people watching at home
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and particularly in Great Britain, who were agreeing with what you were saying about the destruction of Europe
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and the scam of net zero. And yet everybody in that room seems to disagree with you
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Is it just that there's a lack of leaders? No, the people in the room didn't disagree. The leaders didn't disagree, but they don't like bringing it up
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Is this the problem, that nobody has the backbone to be the person to put their hand up and say
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We know that you don't all believe in this, but you're all going along with it. But why? Why are they going along with it
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Well, you know, in some cases, some countries don't really have a choice
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They don't have oil. The U.K. has one of the greatest fields anywhere in the world, and you don't use it
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You know, I was approached by the oil man that used to be there
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and it's hurt the towns and the surrounding areas. It's hurt everything
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But I was approached by the oil man. They said, sir, can you help us? We have the greatest oil in the world and they won't let us use it
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They won't let us use it. If you had some other country with that kind of, including China
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Look, China doesn't have real energy. They have a lot of energy
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There's people that have a great energy, right? They're great. But China doesn't have any oil
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They have to go get it. And they used to get a lot of it from you. They don't do that anymore because you don't do it
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your whole economy would change you know because oil is so much bigger than any other subject
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in terms of economic wealth and in terms of lifestyle and living and underpinning the
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success of a company of a country well you have beautiful clean really incredible oil and gas
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and it's sitting there and it saddens me you know i have in aberdeen i have a tremendous project
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and i own turnberry too and i own in in ireland i own dunebeck so i have three very great projects
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and I look and I say the value that is being wasted in this country
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it's so sad and you can only say it so much it's not your country
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you feel badly saying it you're telling somebody else what they're doing
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you're sitting there with the greatest one of the greatest oil fields in the world
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and you're not using it and when the oil, when Exxon when these big companies want to use it
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they're rebuffed, they're told no and you're putting up windmills all over
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you're killing all the birds, by the way. They're ugly as hell, they make noise
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they're very unsafe, and they produce, every time that thing goes around, it loses money
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And you can't recycle them. It's landfill at the end of the day. Remember this, after 10 years
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you have to take them down and put new ones out because they only have a certain life. Awful
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It's hard to believe. Now, unfortunately, even though there are so many topics
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we could talk about, we have to tackle the issue of the BBC. and this defamation case
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Can I just ask you, how did you feel when you were first shown the footage or told about this edit
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which the BBC say is unintentional to depict you in that way
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I don't think so. But how do you feel about it? Do they say it's unintentional
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Well, then they're stupid to say that. They wrote me a letter of apology, as you know
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How was it? It's fine, but what is it? It's fine. They wrote me a nice letter
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we apologize but when you say it unintentional I guess if it unintentional you don apologize you know I made a beautiful statement and they made it into a not beautiful statement And now I hear just before this interview I was told somebody said
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so you're not going to believe it, BBC did it again, they found another place. I think it a totally different..
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On news nights. Yeah, totally different place. That they did it again
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It's not even... You know, I just settled with 60 Minutes in... I guess it's based in New York, CBS
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because they had Kamala the night or two nights before the election
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Her answer was so bad it was election interfering. Okay, that's how bad it was
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And they took her answer out, and they gave her a totally different answer using her
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At least they used her. But they took it from 20 minutes or something later in the interview
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In other words, they took some other answer to a totally different question. And it was still a lousy answer, but it wasn't election-threatening, right? Yes
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And we just settled that case. but that's not as bad as what BBC did. BBC actually, I mean, as bad as that was, they took her
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and her answer was terrible. It was long, horrible, stupid, so stupid. Anybody listening to it would
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have voted for Trump. Most of them did anyway, fortunately. But what happened is they threw it
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out, just threw it out, and they took another one. They asked a question. They put a totally
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different answer. And through a series of weird events, just like the BBC was a weird, how we
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found out about it one of their competitors reported it how how they found out about it you
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got to give them credit but in the 60 minute thing we found out because they advertised it
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in a commercial and they used a little bit of that first answer and then we found out she's well but
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that wasn't on the show it was a totally different answer we found out through talent and luck but
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bbc what they did is worse and if it wasn't for the daily telegraph in the uk shining a light on
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this story and then other channels. You've got to hand it to them. Running with it
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Was that the Daily Telegraph? It was the Daily Telegraph that initially did the expose
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I assume they're enemies. They are now. Of the BBC? Yes. Well, I think they're part of the establishment media in the UK, and they've been there for
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many years. They're very well respected. But they weren't sensed by it. Daily Telegraph. They were angry, I think, on your behalf of that depiction
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How easy was that decision to pursue legal action? You could have maybe picked up the phone to Prime Minister Starmer and just said
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can you have a word with someone at the BBC, or were you quite resolute that this is something..
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See, I don't even know if the BBC is owned by, you know, what percentage is owned
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or if any is owned by your government. I don't know. It's funded predominantly by the British taxpayers, so we have to pay $180
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Well, the British taxpayers have a big problem with it, because it's strange
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And for somebody that came up... That's been a big story over in your country? A very big story
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It's a big story over here. It's the biggest story over here. Yeah, the director general has resigned. The head of news has resigned over this
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You've had the letter from the chair of the BBC apologizing. But how far are you prepared to push it
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Because you've invented the phrase fake news. You invented that more than 10 years ago, probably now
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Fake news. Fake news. So did this feel like a smoking gun
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when for years you've been frustrated with a depiction of you that isn't accurate
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Yeah, I think I've proven fake news because they used to have high approval ratings, the media
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Now they have the lowest. I think they're lower than Congress, which is pretty good. So, now, fake news was a great term, except it's not strong enough
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You know, I'd like it to be stronger. You know, the word fake is one thing, but this is beyond fake
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This is corrupt, what they did. So, no, you know, the lawyers walked in and said, sir, you're not going to believe this
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And they showed, I didn't hear about it. My lawyers walked in and they just said, you know, the White House lawyers, the government lawyers, actually
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And they walked in and they said, sir, you're not going to believe this. They said, what is it? And they show me the one and then they show me the other
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And it's not even close. You know, it's different words. It looks like it's actually the same mouth movement
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Who would be able to even find this? Somebody did an amazing job to be able to
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But it's a totally different meaning and totally different words. so and as somebody that understands television i always think when i watch you i think you have
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certain different hats you put on you've got your tv guy you've got your property developer guy
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talking about the ballroom which i think is is brilliant and then you've you know you've got
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your father hat where you've got this amazing family um but in this instance so you're looking
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at it through your sort of telly guy eyes as well and thinking if you'd worked on a show where
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they'd edited something together like that. It just wouldn't get past the editorial process
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Well, I did say that. That was my first thing. I said, who would do this
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I've never heard of this one before. You know, you worry about AI because things like this can happen
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you know, with their different geniuses. I mean, you know, you can do things
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I've seen things that are incredible. But you can't imagine that BBC did this
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somewhat crudely, actually. Yeah. You know, it's done sort of crudely. They'd clipped together, hadn't they, two parts of the speech that were nearly an hour apart
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It's incredible. To depict the idea that you had given this aggressive speech which led to this riot
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And one making you into a bad guy. And the other one was, you know, my statement was a very calming statement
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It's pretty incredible. I mean, I just I just I couldn't believe it
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Actually, I've never seen I've been doing this for a long time. I've never seen anything like that
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That's the most egregious. I think that was worse than the Kamala thing with CBS and 60 Minutes
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How far will you push it? Because they haven't offered, our understanding is they've offered no money whatsoever
20:43
They've apologized in a letter, but they haven't offered you a penny in compensation
20:48
There was this figure of a billion dollars that you may be pursuing. I think I have an obligation to do it
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Look, I'm not looking to get into lawsuits, but I think I have an obligation to do it
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This was so egregious. If you don't do it, you don't stop it from happening again with other people
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I think you probably have an obligation. I'd like to find out why they did it, you know, so bad
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Who thinks like this? And I wonder if they've done it. We'll find this out
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You know, the nice part about litigation is we'll find out how many times have they done it to other people
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Maybe they did it to me quite a bit. Because I've read a lot of publicity over there before
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You know, I was getting in Aberdeen, which is such a great place
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I went through, you know, years of permitting and everything else to build two great golf courses
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And I did it really as almost art more than anything else. I mean, I do it for the art
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I'm lucky I can do that. Right. But it's beautiful. And, you know, owning Turnberry and having the great Turnberry, which is so beautiful
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And so I know your country so well. And the fact that my mother was, you know, my mother was a great fan of the Queen
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And any time the Queen was on, she said, excuse me, don't talk
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We have to listen to the Queen. She loved the Queen and the royal family
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And, you know, we were honored just recently by King Charles and the family, the royal family
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And they couldn't be nicer. It was great. We had that was an amazing few days
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The state visit was beautiful. I've never seen anything like it. It was so beautiful. It was incredible
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The whole thing was it couldn have been more beautiful That room with the long table It was amazing amazing I never seen a room I got to build one of them someday Talking of Scotland for instance
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the average age life expectancy in the east end of Glasgow now is 57 for men. Wow
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It's lower than some sub-Saharan African countries, but there's a drug problem, an alcohol problem, a health problem
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You think it would be the opposite? It's so beautiful. Yeah. The air is so good
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The air is so clean. You know, everything is so good. But if you were parachuted into Scotland tomorrow to save your ancestral homeland, what would you do
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Where would you start? Well, it's so amazing that when you tell me this, because you would think that you would live forever because it's so beautiful
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Now, it becomes less beautiful because of the windmills. It really does. But you would think that they'd have now at the same time, they have a hard life economically
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There's not great economics there. You know, Sean Connery was sort of a friend of mine, and he was a great guy
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I used to sometimes call him the king because he was ill. But I spent years getting zoning in Aberdeen in particular
23:34
Turnberry was different because it was built, and we made it incredible, more incredible than it even was
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And it's unique. But with Aberdeen, you were starting right from the beginning
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And I was having a hard time getting the zoning. And it wasn't like my real business
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It was a piece of art, the most beautiful dunes, I think, in the world
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And I was into it for maybe three or four years. And John Connery was in Scotland
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And he said, let the bloody bloke build his bloody golf courses
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He's an American. He wants to invest money in Scotland, he said
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In Scotland, let him build his bloody golf courses. Do you know that after he did that, I got my approvals in like two minutes
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And you've just won a record for having the best golf course in the world, I believe
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It just was rated one of the best golf courses in the world. But think of Sean Connery, no longer with us
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But he said, let him build his bloody up. In other words, I'm investing money in Scotland
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And he was right. But he was so respected. Everything, it was crazy
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I said, you're the greatest zoning lawyer in the world. My zoning lawyers can't do anything, but you just make one statement
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He was great. He was a great character. He's a great actor. One of the things I've noticed about being here is this sense of patriotism
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which you've revived, this period of renewal. You've even got record numbers of people signing up for the armed forces
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They love this country so much they're volunteering to prepare to die for America
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That's what any leader of a country would want. In the U.K., we've got a resurgence at the moment
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People putting Union Jacks and St. George's flags around on motorway bridges
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outside houses and then councillors are taking them down and it's become a bit of a battleground
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because we've got this timidity about who is the British people, who are we, what does it mean to
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be British and so how would you define American patriotism and what can we learn? Well the thing
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I'm most proud of is that two years ago we couldn't get people to join the military, army, navy, air
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Force Marines, Coast Guard, Space Force. That was mine. We started the Space Force, so I have a pride in it
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But you couldn't get anybody to join. Even the police, you couldn't get them to go into the police
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You couldn't get them into the fire departments. We have a lot of people, right
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I guess 350. Of course, we never know because they allowed so many in
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It's so horrible, but I stopped it. You know, we have the strongest borders anywhere in the world right now
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and we had the weakest borders in the world a year ago
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So I think that one of the things I'm most proud about today to get into the military is hard
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It's like getting into the best college because everybody wants to be in the military
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That took place one year. Think of it one year ago. You couldn't get them. And now it's like resurgent
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Maybe we'll open up our military and let more people in. But but today it's considered a prestigious job, a wonderful job
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Everybody wants to be. You heard the story. we had the best recruitment numbers in the history of our country and a year ago we had the worst yeah
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so it can take place fast but they're proud of the country i mean i talk about the country we
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have the strongest military in the world we make the best military equipment and by the way we sell
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a lot to you and we have a great relationship with your country but i want your country to do
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really well. I want you to country to do better. I know. There is a sense that we are struggling
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with our identity, who we are. Are we the kind of country that looks to the government to give
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people a handout if they haven't got a job? Are we encouraging people to go back to work? Well
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your energy costs are among the highest in the world. Yeah. And yet you're sitting there with
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the greatest energy field in the world. One of them, one of the top three or four. And you should
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have the lowest energy not the highest energy how have you done that on the border because we watch
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in the uk repeatedly illegal migration comes up at the top of people's concerns in great britain
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and it's not that we're not a generous country and we've always taken refugees you feel badly
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about it but you have no choice you have a country to run no one has any money and so when you have
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people have have paid into the system the elderly have paid into the system all their lives and
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they're on a waiting list to get a new knee for a year and yet they see people arriving illegally
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being given accommodation food you know you have to take them out you have to take them back
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immediately don't forget two years ago year and a half ago we were having millions of people pour
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through our borders you know we have now for the last six months zero it's incredible zero so we
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were very tough at the border. We would take people immediately back. And I had the military
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as a backup because you've seen this thing where they're trying to break down the fences and
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everything else. And we don't play games with our military. And we won a Supreme Court that was very
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a Supreme Court case where things are based on merit. That means the military, too. And a military
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has to be a certain type. We can all be politically correct and say, you know, everybody should be in
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the military. Everybody should. Well, you have people that are born for things and people that
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aren't. OK. And that means good and bad. We have an amazing military now. We have people that look
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like they're supposed to be soldiers and they don't play games. That's how D.C. is so strong
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Now, you know, we had thugs, we had gangs and we had people that were afraid to go and talk to them
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Now you have guys that don't even do the talk. You just walk in. It's like a unbelievable
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And we throw them out. We bring them out. They throw them out. They bring them back to Venezuela
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They bring them back to different countries where they came from. And they're told never to come back
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Do you think we could probably do something similar, which is to put the military identical on the coast
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Identical. And you have an advantage because actually, you know, you have so much sea because sea is sort of a protector
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Now, you know, sometimes they come in by boat, but it's a protection. Yeah, you do the same thing
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You know, Biden, Sleepy Joe Biden, one of the worst, definitely the worst president in the history of our country
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but a man who didn't do a good job in any way
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But, you know, he said, I can't. Stop the people from coming in because I don't I need an act of Congress and I can't get it
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I said, you don't need an act of Congress. So you have to do a say nobody comes into I didn't get an act of Congress
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So I had a very safe border the first time the first four years. But now I have a really safe border
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But I didn't have to go to Congress to do that. You're the president. It's a very strong presidency
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And you say, stop the people from coming in. and they listen to me and nobody comes in
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I mean, literally nobody other than if they come in legally. We have a good process for coming in
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You have to learn. You have to, you know, you have to show that you can love the country
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But, yeah, Biden was just a terrible president. You know, what he did with inflation, what he did with other things was
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that we had the highest inflation in the history of the country. Now we have almost no inflation. But what he did with allowing millions of people to come in
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now the difference is i'm moving them out i'm getting them out and we're doing with the worst
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ones first we had 11 888 murderers think of that 11 888 murderers largely for the most part
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they're gone yeah and some of them murdered more than one person and they're gone you have the same
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exact thing you have people coming in from parts of the world uh you better do you know this
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interview is good for one thing you better do something about immigration because it's more
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important than inflation you know inflation you can solve but when you have people coming into
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your country and they're bad people the wrong people it doesn't work and it's not working
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if you don't get them out you're not going to have a country left when you wake up at three
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o'clock in the morning like we all do what do you worry about what what is the what keeps you awake
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at night when you i don't think you sleep for a start because i've seen your schedule and you
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don't really bother with sleep time to sleep later on yeah lots of time we have infinity
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but uh no i i think that you know i had an expression when i first ran make america great
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again right very simple expression i think in political history it's the best ever used
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maybe beyond the united states maybe i think about that i just want to make america great again it's
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I don't want to be politically correct. I don't want to be, I'm sort of conservative, I guess
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but that's because policies tend to be conservative. You know, you want strong borders
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You want good education. You want a powerful military. You want, you know, different things
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But the expression really says it all. Make America great again. You should have the same expression in your country
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Make the UK great again. You know, you have so many terms. You have England
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You have Britain. You have the UK. you have but whatever you want to use you want to make it great again but we not alone in Europe that leaders of European countries and particularly the UK are incredibly squeamish about the suggestion that their people are more important
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than people coming from other countries. Why? Well, you don't have that in all cases
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Look, in the case of Hungary, you have a man named Viktor Orban
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who the other leaders hate, but who does a fabulous job. You know how many people he's allowed into his country
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Go on. Zero. And he's got no problems. He has taken some Ukrainians, you know, from the war
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But basically, zero. You know, the Ukrainians, they blend in. He's allowed nobody to come in
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You had a couple of, Poland, I think, has done a very good job. Poland's been great
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And the man who won the election, who's fantastic, was not expected to even come close
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It was one of many people running. And through a friend of his and a friend of mine, a mutual friend, I endorsed him and he won the election
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So it was a pretty big upset. But he's going to be a great president
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But Poland doesn't take people in. There are some countries that just refuse to do it
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Yeah, we're not one of them. No, you are not one of them. We are not
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You've had a phenomenal success with solving conflicts. And the peace president is one of the names I know that you hear quite a lot
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Russia-Ukraine remains intractable and irritating for you, I imagine. It is. What might be the key leverage left with Putin
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So I settled eight wars, and I have one to go. And, you know, last week, they say, during the month, during the last month, actually
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25,000 soldiers were killed between the two countries. Fairly evenly split. Think of it
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25,000 young. Now they're getting older, by the way, I must tell you
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But young soldiers were killed. It would have never happened if I were president
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I thought I have a very good relationship with President Putin. and I thought that was going to be my easier, you know, an easier one
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Yeah. Because I saw some of the wars were going in one case 32 years and one case 36 years
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And I got them settled in like two days. I'm very proud of that
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I just had one where today I think I settled one today, another one
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But we just about exhausted the supply of wars. You know, I didn't know there were so many wars if you look at it
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But even if you look at India and Pakistan, nuclear nations, and they were going at it
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You know, they were really going at it. Eight planes were shot down. They were really, and who knows what happens
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with the nuclear, powerful nuclear weapons. And I said, look, if you're going to go and fight
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I'm not going to make any trade deals with you guys. And I put tariffs and did all sorts of things
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And within 48 hours, I get that, I got that taken care of
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They're good. And that's a big thing. But I did that eight times
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The one I haven done yet is Russia and Ukraine It should have never started It a bloodbath It is a terrible bloodbath There are so many soldiers not since the Second World War has anything been like that
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It's going to happen. I hope it's going to happen soon. We're putting a lot of pressure on them
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you know, with India and the oil and India is now pulling out and others are pulling out because as
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Russia sells oil, they have money to do things. Yeah. But I think we're going to get it done
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But it's it's a shame. Yeah. If I can just bring you back to the BBC, where do you see this going now, President Trump
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Do you see this being a long legal protracted conflict with the BBC? Would you like to see it
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Well, they've admitted their guilt, but they don't have to admit their guilt. It's on tape
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You know, I mean, there's nothing to admit. No, I think very shortly we have a statutory period
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we've notified them by writing and I think you have to wait a week and so that time's coming up
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and after that time comes up we'll sue them my lawyers say for a billion dollars or more
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and we'll see how it all works out but I can't imagine they could do very well in that lawsuit
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what they've done is incredible I sort of have an obligation not that I want to do it I have an
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obligation to do it so I've been doing this for a long time and I've understood and nobody
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understand the press because you know i'm the one that explained to people it's fake news
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but and and i hate when people say i understand the press because they're fools because nobody
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really understands the press doesn't understand itself but i will say um i think i have an
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obligation to bring a major lawsuit against the bbc because what they did is impossible to believe
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i never you would have never even thought that even the kamla thing to a certain extent you know
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It was so bad, but you could see how it could happen. Yeah. And it's the idea, I suppose, that you're doing it not just for you
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because your feeling is, well, if they could misrepresent me in that way, they could misrepresent anybody in that way
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Well, they can be doing it. And one of the things we'll find out during this litigation
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through depositions and everything, is how many other times have they done it to your prime minister
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Have they done it to Nigel? Have they done it to, you know, the people that are in your country
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The answer is probably yes, but we'll be finding out a lot of things over the next few months
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And one of the things, you know, your litigation moves a little bit quickly in your country
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So I think it's going to go fairly quickly, although I don't know that we bring it there. We probably bring it someplace in the U.S. from our standpoint
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And you've had success with suing media companies before on behalf of you and also Melania as well
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Yeah, that's true. And Melania's had success. No, we've had a lot of success because it's fake news
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But I've never had anything so fake as the BBC. Yeah. You're obviously a really good dad
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Your children really like you which is obvious Or love Or love you But everybody loves their parents but they don all like their parents That true When they adults And they clearly have so
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much respect and warmth towards you. And I often think watching you that actually being a good
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president is a bit like being a good father. Yeah. Tough love, clear boundaries in the interests of
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the people that you're looking after. Does it ever occur to you how much the role is like being a
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father being a president? I've never thought of it that way. I can't believe I'm getting a question
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I've never thought of or never been asked before. If you think about it, I love this country. I love
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the people of the country. But people do say, what do you recommend for growing your children
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And I've seen so many children. I've seen so many brilliant children of brilliant people
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go bad and become tremendous failures. And I find that so much of it's caused by drugs, alcohol
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you know, different substances. And I always would say to my kids, no drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes
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I'd say no cigarettes, too. You know, it's not of the same, but it's if you can avoid it
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Because if you don't start it, you don't have a longing. I mean, I have friends that long to have a cigarette
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They quit smoking, but they long and they see somebody with a cigarette like they're caged lunatics
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OK, but even more so with drugs and alcohol. And I would always tell my kids no drugs because no drugs or alcohol
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I said, over the years I've seen really smart parents have really brilliant kids
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And the kids are a disaster because they got hooked in drugs. And when you're hooked, it's hard to get off
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And if you never start them, like I've never had a drink in my life and I don't take drugs
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Yeah. I have no longing. but people that do the drugs they don't talk about as much
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but when they see when you have a person that suffered with the alcohol curse
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and they're out to dinner and they see some of your wonderful
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whiskey or whatever when they see that coming down the plank they say oh man does that look good
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if you never start it's so easy now I have other problems
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I've got plenty of problems like everybody else but it's just not a problem that I have
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And I always say, no drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes. Ivanka said to me, she said, Dad, you're driving me crazy
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Stop saying that. I say it all the time. Whenever I see him, no drugs, no alcohol, no cigarettes
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So I think it worked, but who knows? You never know. And now a grandfather, of course
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How much do you enjoy that job? I do. I have beautiful kids. I have wonderful kids, wonderful grandchildren
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I have a good family. Yeah. Well, lovely to sit down and talk with you
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Thank you very much. Have a lovely weekend. Well, you too, and good luck with oil, energy, and illegal immigration
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Thank you
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