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Robert, this just seems like an extraordinary failure
0:03
This guy is supposed to be in one of the most high-security prisons under constant watchful eye
0:08
and yet he was given cooking materials, metal, cooking oil. How could it be allowed to happen
0:14
I think it's a very, very concerning incident. As you say, this is one of the most dangerous men in the country
0:19
He was in prison. He was actually in a so-called separation unit
0:23
which is an area of the prison that is designed to stop extremists from causing difficulties
0:29
And yet he had access to materials that he used to create a makeshift weapon and stab prison officers and to boiling oil that he ultimately used to pour on the officers
0:40
Obviously, my thoughts are with the officers and their families, but we've got to learn lessons from this
0:44
In fact, this has got to be a turning point. And there's a broader issue here, which is about Islamist extremism within our prisons
0:51
There is mounting evidence, and I and others have been warning about this for some time, that Islamic organisations, there's one called the Brotherhood, which forcibly converts people within our prisons, are ruling the roost in our jails, that they are dictating to governors how the jails operate
1:10
They're dictating things such as the diet of prisoners. They are operating quasi-sharia courts within prisons
1:18
And they are controlling them with floggings and beatings. And this has got to end
1:24
Governors have got to assert themselves and take back control of these prison wards
1:30
There should not be individuals like this, these Islamist gangs, taking control of our prisons
