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'It got STUPID!' GB News guests engulfed in fiery row over wearing masks to stop 'super flu'
Dec 13, 2025
Watch the moment a pair of GB News guests locked were engulfed in a fiery row over whether or not the UK should wear masks to stop the spread of flu. The move back to masks was suggested as Britain endures flu season while doctors warn of a surge of cases across the nation. Labour councillor Stuart Fawcett argued: "If we can avoid strains on the NHS by taking simple precautions, we should."However, commentator Lizzie Cundy hit back, citing mask regulations during the pandemic, saying that "it got stupid". WATCH THE CLIP ABOVE TO WATCH THE FIERY EXCHANGE
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Let's start with you Stuart. Should we wear the masks to stop the superflu
0:03
I really do think we have to participate a lot more in our own health and public health measures
0:09
So if we can avoid putting strains on the NHS by taking simple precautions or even changes in our lifestyle
0:17
I think that's something that we should be looking to do really. So if there is a serious public health issue which is putting pressure on the NHS
0:24
and me wearing a mask in certain circumstances can reduce that pressure, I'm consenting
0:30
With all respect, though, it's not my job to take the pressure off the NHS
0:34
I pay enough in tax for it to be... It's about avoidability, isn't it
0:37
I think people should take care of their own health, and I agree with that 100%, but I kind of get sick of the kind of dogma that we need to protect the NHS
0:46
when it's meant to be there to protect us. Lizzie Gundy. I'm one of those, and I've listened to many doctors that say
0:52
the masks do absolutely nothing. No. No they have said because the tiny monocules get through the masks I think the issue is that everyone done And the fact is can I just say let you know obviously if you got to really feel the flu coming on
1:08
I don't think you should go into work and give it to other people. That's the most common sense
1:13
Julie, wash your hands and have a handkerchief with you. That's the most common sense thing to do
1:19
Of course masks do something. You know, I don't think it's the mask that doesn't work
1:23
It's the way we're using the mask that doesn't work. So the mask itself, like if I'm going to sneeze, Lizzie, should I just go at you
1:29
No, you cover your hand. If I cover my hand, and is that not stopping the thing from getting to you
1:33
So by that way, even if it goes out the size or wherever, the mask is stopping me from spraying all my phlegm onto you
1:40
That would be very nice. Thank you very much. So if you're saying that they don't work, then I should just speak and sneeze
1:45
But the fact is, let's remember the terrible time of Covid and the pandemic
1:50
People wear the mask and they wouldn't have it on properly. Some would be wearing under the chin
1:55
You don't wear a mask in your car, Lisa. Next thing it will be the old lockdowns Remember Keir Starmer wanted to lock us down for even longer Just wash your hands take a handkerchief and if you feel ill don go out
2:09
When I was at the BBC we had these little things and you could put them in your pocket and it would beep, beep, beep
2:13
If you were too close to somebody they'd beep, beep to say move back. Yeah, and don't forget to put your feet on those squares. Do you remember in the queue
2:20
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't know, I think there may be some workplaces where people might still want that, you know
2:24
There might be, maybe. Yeah, but what about, I mean, we have to, when we look back at what happened through that pandemic
2:30
I mean, I remember sitting on a bench and this guy shouting me, going, get off that bench
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Like, why? You're going to spread germs. I mean, it got really stupid when we look back
2:40
I'm sorry, Chris Whitty, if you're watching, but seriously, some of the things you said
2:44
I think it's just about proportion. I think the NHS now is under so much pressure and we can't expect it to do everything reasonably
2:51
We all need to take more proportions. Why are they going on strike, though? Because remember Wes said he was going to stop the strike
2:56
I talking about all the things that the NHS has a responsibility to respond to But remember they on strike They going on strike because they not happy with the almost 30 pay rise that they received saying that actually using the wrong calculator for the increase in real terms
3:10
income, or the one that will make it look worse, using that calculator
3:15
they've told us that they are behind and they should be catching up. None of us have caught up
3:19
Everybody's behind. They're just joining the club of normal people who don't have the privilege
3:23
of having their pay going up in line with inflation. Well, the House Secretary
3:27
obviously announced today that they weren't going to be going ahead in the same manner that they were expected to do
3:31
partly because of the contributing element of this pressure that they feel
3:36
And I think, you know, as you outline, they've had a very generous paying freeze that people in line
3:41
Yeah, so why are they even thinking of striking? And there's already things built into the budget
3:45
in order to make that happen for the fairness. So I think, no, I think there's a proportionate element there
3:51
And the NHS is a public service. It doesn't operate like a private health care system
3:55
So we just can't afford to do that all the time. Well, yeah, exactly. We're paying for it. So I think perhaps there's a conversation as to what we want from our NHS and how much we're prepared to put into it and what we want it to do
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