The Future of Medicine is not Medicine As We Know It - 2010/11/16

medicine actually is a board examiner for the academy of anti-aging medicine

he's a stellar practitioner of alternative and complementary health and has a

clinic in wimberley with offices also in office in austin

where he basically helps people get optimal physical and mental health now i have to tell you a secret and that

is that he put together a really whiz-bang presentation for us but he ended up saying

but although i'm going to talk about the future of medicine is not medicine

to really get into the futures of all of this i really have to depend on the group that's here we're a futurist

because i'm not a futurist so he's going to do his presentation we'll have some q a and then bring on the

coffee and pie like that and then we'll have another discussion where futurists

us will get a chance to talk about the implications of what he said alternative futures if it's the status quo continued

course or if it's an alternative future like what he's talking about the future

of medicine being other than medicine or what will have a chance to weigh in so with that dr sebrin

hooked up yeah okay well thank you very much for inviting me um

i'm not a futurist like you all are that's for sure but i i'm very interested in the future um

i think most of you will be able to follow what i'm doing not only because the intelligence level but because of

the parts of your brain i know that work the future is is understood kind of in the

right frontal part of the brain where you can take large amounts of data and fast forward and see where it's going

okay so most of you who are interested in the future have that capacity that part of your brain works very well

and that's wonderful for me because that's where i think i'm i'm a concept kind of guy med school was very difficult for me

because it's categorical and sequential details organizational skills and protocols you know

tell me the 27 causes of pain in the left lower quadrant of the abdomen

shoot me now okay i have to go there in my brain and dig around and to find out what's there and

i can come up with probably 27 maybe a lot more but that's what it was taught so when i got

out uh i was able to kind of use my my concept approach to medicine

and very shortly realized that what i was doing i didn't like

you got a symptom i got a pill next and that's the way it's practiced

so i started looking around i like nutrition before i went to medical school

and that sort of got beat to pieces by the time i got out uh only you doctor have the real power

to heal that's what we were taught so i started going to nutrition conferences and the first one i went to

i was pretty angry those people didn't like what i did i mean they're like doctors okay they

just thought we were misled well i stuck it out because i'm going to know both

and by the end of the second day i got it they were right

i was treating symptoms with a pill and they were going upstream looking at causation and it seldom needed a pill

so this was very intriguing and it allowed me to do something for my

patients i was not able to do which was stop

their dependence on me teach them how to do this and then they can do it on their own

and i discovered the american academy of anti-aging medicine we currently have 22 000 members from 105 countries

and most almost all of our mds although there's chiropractors and phds etc

and these people really have something to say my first lecture that i went to was a four-hour lecture from a fourth

generation endocrinologist from belgium his great-grandfather was endocrinologist they didn't really have

labs to look at and so as a result they had to do something very foreign to us and that is

treat people they they had to help this person

to get better they'd be able to diagnose it the physical diagnosis in history and then figure out what they needed and

treat them now you go to an endocrinologist it doesn't matter what your symptoms are if your labs are okay go home there's

nothing to treat so it's really become very cookbook now

the future of medicine is not medicine that's an arrogant statement by me that's my assessment of

the future that's what i hope it becomes and i'm gonna do everything i can to see that that's the way it goes

it's not medicine at all in fact what i hope to show you here is that

the um

there we go

why do we have disease if you're on a pristine part of the

planet and you peer through the trees into a clearing and you see a wild animal

the last thing you expect this that wild animal to have some sort of chronic disease

if it did have some chronic disease and you recognize that it'd be like i'm out of here i don't know what the deal is

this is an unhealthy place i don't know radiation leak something going on here but this is not normal yet we fully

expect chronic disease to be part of our experience worsening increasing multiplying as we

get older until eventually we succumb from all this chronic disease and we die

and so where'd it come from heart disease for example virgin known

in 1900 there was a pathologist that was doing an autopsy on a patient he saw a heart attack never seen it before never

read about it in the literature never learned about it in school spent the rest of his working life looking for

more heart attacks he found six more

cancer we've done i don't know how many egyptian mummies have been examined but

they've only found cancer in one in the 1600s it sort of began growing

more in europe and we think it's due to the cold you know the over in england the the moth

changed to uh from white to black now it's black to white back to white again but all the

colon air that's when sort of cancer began in the 1950s here in america cancer was not even in the one of the

top 10 causes of death so and yes we did autopsies randomly on

people it's not like oh we didn't know no we knew we had really good statistics on that

and in the last decade cancer has exceeded heart disease twice

as the number one cause of death osteoporosis

um began in human history

and about 10 000 years ago in the middle east when we started growing our own foods

grains are the cause for osteoporosis probably the biggest cause there's two reasons for that grains hold magnesium

in the gut binds up magnesium so you you have to absorb magnesium

first before you can absorb calcium because the mechanism is a little revolving door

that spins back magnet magnesium into the gut and flips in calcium into

into the body from the lumen or the entire internal part of the intestinal tract the other problem with

osteoporosis is acidity i would say 85 percent plus of the patients come to my clinic if you do a

urine sample on them their urine is the ph of that is going to be about five or at five

that's as acidic as the kidneys can handle you go below five you start doing kidney damage

healthy would be seven seven point five be a little more outlined eat a lot more greens

so what happens when the ph starts to drop in the kidney getting close to five the body starts having to buffer the

urine what does it buffer it with calcium from your bones so you've got a loss of calcium through

the urine every time you go to the bathroom okay you can have someone standing here with a urine ph of seven

nice healthy give them a big tall glass of milk they drink that check a urine ph 45 minutes

later it's five so did that glass of milk help that person

replace their calcium no it didn't and it doesn't in spite of the advertisements

so that's industry medicine's run by industry now in case you don't know

um so all the foods we've added in the last

ten thousand years uh when we started growing our own foods prior to ten thousand years ago we were

all hunter gatherers five thousand years ago in europe you go back five thousand years ago basically

they were all hunter gatherers in europe in the middle east there was a drought they had to do something to survive

ended up wiping out all the big game and had to do figure out how to survive there and uh they ended up growing grains

by the riverbanks and that's kind of where the storybooks end there's a really good question why did

they choose grains i mean hunter-gatherers consider grains and i'm talking about wheat corn rice

barley oats on and on why did they choose grains they chose grains for one reason only

and that reason is him i know yeah right lastly

yeah you can store them right that brings up another question why can you store this food and the

answer the answer is because nothing can live off of it it's not food for anything on the planet nothing on the planet eats grains by

choice it's it's it's a backup food at best hunter-gatherers considered starvation food at best and for very

good reason grains actually put toxins in their

uh seed so that animals don't eat their seed if the grain was good food for all the animals the plants would go extinct

we've learned if you heat them up enough you get rid of most of the toxins but not all of them it's still not food

i'll get into that a little bit more later but grains uh i'm sorry osteoporosis follows the

introduction of grains into the diet all around the world there is one exception of hunter gatherers that do

get osteoporosis if you thought about it long enough you might know figure it out and that's eskimos

they don't have any alkalinizing foods and they really have trouble with osteoporosis they're sort of

marginalized in their area in terms of what they the resources etc but they don't have any alkalinizing foods

autoimmune disease rheumatoid arthritis absolutely archaeological record prior to the introduction of grains into the

diet causes inflammation of the gut

and ninety percent of your eighty to nine percent of your immune systems in the lining of the intestinal tract and

so if you have yeast growing in there because of the grains and you have gluten coming in there from the grain it

causes an inflammatory state of the intestinal lining and now undigested foods undigested

proteins will go through that into the bloodstream and your immune system sees that as an invader

well depending upon your genetics what molecules you have in your body and what's coming through there in your body

making antibodies to what's coming through it can start attacking parts of your body

the best theory i've read yet on rheumatoid arthritis is there's a bacteria in the gut called

bacterioides very common it's not a pathogen it's a normal healthy bacteria but there's a

protein on its cell wall that looks just like the protein on the articular cartilage

or joints for some families runs in the family for some people

so when one of that that protein comes through the lining of the intestinal tract and that the body starts making

antibodies to it and you also happen to have the genetics where you produce that molecule in your

articular cartilage you're going to start attacking your articular cartilage for the rest of your life and you go to the doctor and you're hand swapped and

they're all red and they start to gnarl and be immobile and we've got all these drugs

sort of treated from that point on but nobody's looking at costs so the best way to treat it what would you do

we take the grains out of the diet you get good bacteria for the gut you line it up you make it as healthy as you can

and you seal off that constant bombardment coming through there and so you shut down the immune system that's on high

alert 24 hours a day because of that leaking gut and

you stop attacking your articular cartilage not 100 percent but wonderfully

decreased um diabetes wow

i don't know where this statistic where they came up with this but i was just on the radio the other day they were talking about they expected diabetes to

level off at 42 percent give me a break i mean i have no idea i don't think you

can calculate that it's just growing it's growing and growing until we do something about it everybody's going to

become diabetic the

diabetes is incredibly reversible and i'm going to teach you how to do that in fact there's actually a way to reverse type 1 diabetes so you grow back your

own beta cells with a drug called naltrexone it's basically designed for

heroin addicts you go in a very small dose of bedtime it reprograms the t cells which are autoimmune cells you

could attack in the beta cells and these kids start producing insulin again

but these are all diet related

now one of the four major topics i want to talk about today is evolutionary medicine

evolutionary medicine sort of got its name and the impetus was developed in the 1990s so this is pretty

pretty new you know uh provides a very different

understanding of our health you know i've already told you to a large degree prior to the introduction of agriculture

a lot of our chronic diseases were absent you study hunter-gatherers and i'll show you that a little more later they're incredibly healthy people

the best we have a lot of misunderstanding about that but you can ask the question when did

this begin in human history instead of getting out your microscope and looking at the tissue and going

what's going on here trying to figure out the physiology that's aberrant and then coming up with a drug to alter that

which is guaranteed to have side effects all over the body it's going to cost you about 140 to 160 a month and even more

as time goes on until the patent goes out and then they're going to come up with a newer version of the same thing and

prove it to all the doctors it's better still so they start prescribing that one and you never get the generics okay

so that's modern medicine but what this does is look at cause

why do we get this think about that wild animal you study hunter-gatherers they don't have

allergies asthma irritable bowel they don't have those kinds of problems

so um it takes into consideration the fact our genes are designed around a

hunter-gatherer lifestyle a lifestyle that makes up 99.75 percent of our genetic past

just think about what the genes are expecting we talk about problems being genetic they're doing all this genetic

research but the big mistake is we're ignoring our

genes completely let me see if i explain something to you

modern medicine is like this you got high cholesterol yeah it runs in your family doesn't it

it's genetic here's some lipitor well that's fixing to go off patents okay now now they've gotten them on here's some

crest store okay and so but the average hunter-gatherer

cholesterol is 120. we have data on 228 different groups of

hunter-gatherers the average cholesterol is 120 in fact the entire range between 110 140.

when you talk about hunter-gatherers you talk about people from all around the world talk about a disparate group of people genetically

mentioned hunter-gatherer and i don't think you could do any greater than that so where's the genes

well it works like this if you're living in the garden of eden so to speak if you're living in that

environment from which those genes came they're evolving all those genes fit that environment they wouldn't be there

apparently occasionally you get a new gene that pops up but that's that's the rare exception so for

the vast majority all those genes fit that environment just fine they can handle the stresses required in that

environment now some families have more reserve capacity than others to handle some of those stresses but

they all have enough come out of that environment and get

10 20 50 100 times more stress on some of those metabolic pathways and some of

those families don't have enough reserve capacity to handle that extra stress

okay and so this family over here gets depression this one over here gets

heart disease right this one's schizophrenic okay this one becomes diabetic

okay and it runs in the family but again if you're paying attention to the genes

and recognize what those genes are designed for and then do your best you can to

provide them provide your life design your life in such a way so that you are true to your genes

the genetic problems go away does that make sense

so um

yeah we sort of talked about this but the average hundred they said average hunter gathers lives to be about 40 years old well

that's really not fair because they lived in 70s 80s and 90s and their functionality is phenomenal even at that

age there's a high infant mortality

and about 34 of the men typically get killed in combat with neighboring tribes and you're talking about people in their

early 20s late teens whatever that really cuts down on life expectancy

for the group but their functionality i'll get into that a little bit more later is phenomenal as they age

yeah the modern medical model is you have these symptoms caused by this disease therefore you get this pill and

even in the research they're looking to develop a pill you know they're looking for a drug it's just the way they go

about it and causation is just not part of it and when you understand

this idea of evolutionary medicine that we came from i'm a romantic did i admit that from somewhat of an ideal

lifestyle and health experience then

it gives you a very different way it gives you a whole different set of questions to ask when there's some sort of problem there's a disease here going

on

so i guess i got ahead of myself and sort of answered all this already we talked

that so these are some hunter gatherers not

obviously the bald guys not this is some people down in the

venezuelan jungle and i want you to look at these people they're just

are they wretched are they shriveling are they just barely eking out a living you know what the

average hunter-gatherer work day is anybody know what um

thank you two and a half hours exactly right early farmer ten

today what fourteen fifteen you know and and you do that at work you

do your work then you go home and you get honeydews and you know and you've got to do those

things so uh yeah they're very healthy

you know the women have got incredible muscle mass they have their feminine shapes but they have the really good

solid mass they're very strong these people average at least one and a half to three times

stronger than the average american pound-for-pound okay so

uh what there's some we're not there's some things we're not doing right and why did we get weak people oh we're we're the

weak one out there no we're not weak we made ourselves weak we just over engineered this whole experience

here's an example you know in reality and obviously an evolutionary medicine mindset what appears to be

the cause of the disease is often the body's response to some insult now let me talk about cholesterol

now i tend to make people mad sometimes but i'm going to tell you

lowering cholesterol is one of the dumbest things you can do it's the biggest bogus bunch of nonsense

played on the american people i'll give you i'll give you a point later on where i think glowing cholesterol makes sense

but cholesterol doesn't cause heart disease there are things that cause high cholesterol that cause heart disease

lioness pauline taught us in the 1980s nobody paid the attention that heart disease starts as a form of

scurvy it's a vitamin c deficiency all arteries expand out a hundred

thousand times a day as the heart beats each day but the ones that are strapped to the heart are on the outside of a very heavy

strong muscle that rings a hundred thousand times a day so those are arteries arterial walls get tremendous

stresses placed on them and the collagen layer can form cracks if you had good vitamin c that crack

would heal in two tenths of a second okay but the only animals that get heart disease like we do are other primates

guinea pigs and fruit bats well what do they have in common well they're mammals that don't make vitamin

c all the other mammals make their own vitamin c so it's not a vitamin to death to them you've got the average 40 pound

dog makes 20 to 30 000 milligrams a day of vitamin c they've got plenty more when they're

sick so that crack doesn't heal

and then if you're low on vitamin c you also produce a little lipoprotein called lp little a you may have heard of that

the doctors are starting to pay attention to it because it's a far superior marker of your risk for heart disease than your cholesterol is

half the people with uh heart attacks have normal or low cholesterol

okay the people with the very highest cholesterol have 70 percent less dementia

and fewer heart attacks okay the people that have the highest cholesterol lived the longest

there's been five studies around the world that showed that you can go to nursing homes and study as a beautiful study they went to nursing homes and

they just all they did was check the oldest resident in each home and you're looking somebody hovering around 100

years old on average and so their average cholesterol was

264. okay and i know doctors that'll want to put that person on a statin drug

i see it all the time why does the body raise cholesterol

it'll raise it because it's a very powerful antioxidant if you're heavy metal toxic

it'll raise your cholesterol to help you help protect you from those heavy metals if you've got a lot of pesticides in your body going on they'll raise that

most 80 of your cholesterol is made in your own liver it's making it mainly not only because

it helps to be put under is put in your cell membranes to improve fluidity of that cell membrane

but it's also making it to turn into our hormones estrogen progesterone testosterone cortisol

you know on down the line that's what starts with cholesterol if you lower cholesterol in a man long

enough you're gonna watch his testosterone plummet he's gonna become diabetic depressed he's gonna muscle

wasting his focus of thinking and all kinds of other horrible dysfunctions that take place when you

lower a man's testosterone women need it as well they need testosterone they need the dhea you need

the cortisol for stress y'all probably heard of adrenal fatigue if you haven't it's the disease of the

21st century and that's a low cortisol syndrome

so the cholesterol is also most of it is actually being

made by the liver to turn into bile the green was a low cholesterol syndrome

or did you i'm sorry did i say that little cortisol thank you you'd mean cortisol yeah i did mean

cortisol that's what you said adrenal fat okay so um the majority of the cholesterol made in

the liver is made for it so it's going to be turned into bile okay so emulsify your fats and get the

more nutrition out of your food but the enzymes that convert cholesterol into bile like they should get shut off

and you know what shuts them off insulin so what happens is instead of bile going

into the gallbladder cholesterol goes into the gallbladder making gallstones

being squeezed and dumped into the intestinal tract was absorbed back into the bloodstream eighty percent of your eighty percent of

your lab value for your cholesterol comes from your own liver twenty percent

from the diet that's why the atkins diet because it's very low insulin requirements and does not shut down

those enzymes that are converting cholesterol to the bile that's why the atkins diet lowers

everybody's cholesterol about 50 points even though you start with steak you know bacon eggs and sausage for

breakfast right no carbs so there's very low insulin requirements

so your cholesterol gets turned into bile and you watch your cholesterol drop and your good cholesterol goes up

so if you've got heart disease what do they tell you lower your fat

right why do they want you to lower your fat well i'm real cynical about this because

they tell you to lower your fat because the american heart association

those people said on the boards of pharmaceutical companies now and they love the people lower their fat because if you lower your fat what do you get

also getting rid of your protein because those two come together what's left carbs

well that didn't work too well for lowering your cholesterol so this is how misinformation gets out

there this is what the dietitians are taught and that's why none of what we do seems to be working

we're not paying attention to the genes we're listening to industry

these are some hunter gatherers uh that they just discovered down in the uh um amazon down there i think i don't

remember which part from a helicopter took some pictures i got these off of

yahoo one day and there's quite a few very impressive um well they're painted up

they're living whatever myths they believe i don't know if they've ever seen a helicopter before but they're ready for

it

a lot of people think these people are sort of talked about they barely eke out at a living

lauren corgan at colorado state university uh

wrote an article stark evidence of periodic starvation amongst hunter-gatherers and it shows quite clearly this isn't

the case these people are very healthy they're masters of their environment they basically own it two and a half hour work day that gives you an idea of

what kind of control they're in if they want to chop down a tree they usually go over grab a few rocks bank bank bank

pretty soon you got ones to sharp you could shave with it chop down a little sapling wrap that around it tie it off and chop down the big tree

clean it top it toss the racks and drag the log back to camp to burn or build or whatever they

want to do and they do that because they can make that axe just about anywhere okay

so um

these people also aged at a much lower rate slower rate than what we realized that hunter gathers there's never been a

group of hunter-gatherers that even have a word for arthritis because they don't get them

their joints don't wear out like ours do even into their 90s

one of my patients was he's been a patient for about 15 years

you know and i write all kinds of articles they're all over the clinic and i try to put them here and there and i walked in the room and he was had

been in there and he said you know dr steven i never read any of your articles before but i've been sitting there reading some of your articles and

because i'm going to tell you my wife and i go to africa about every two to three years and we like to stay for like four to six months at a time and

we like to associate with these hunter-gatherers over in ethiopia and and uh those people

they're an absolute testimony you're talking about those people in their 70s 80s and 90s and run around like nothing

you know and then one day you hear oh so-and-so died oh i didn't know they were sick no not

sick die that's the experience it's just a very

different deal he tried to figure out what they ate they came he came with about 90 percent animal 55 buffalo 25

some wild bird like a chicken 10 goat about 10 vegetables and fruits

okay now i don't think the ratios are that important but that's all live food very rich life is when we started eating

meat brain size doubled okay we started when we added grains to the diet we lost six to seven inches in

height all around the world it's an archaeological fact we lost brain size

we lost brain size okay the sphenoid bone here that buttresses

the sides of the skull and supports the brain back through here was no longer strong enough to span that original

distance so the body narrowed it set it with narrowed faces smaller brains a nose you can't hardly

breathe out of and a jaw that no longer can hold all of our teeth so you get crooked teeth and everybody needs their

wisdom teeth taken out you ever wonder why that is now you know

so yeah we have to assess their age differently because they they didn't wear out

uh like we do the joints and if you're looking at the sorry i know i'm fine okay

um yeah really nice

this is these are kind of fun it's not a lengthy but captain cook you all know from him

discovered australia in this all around and wrote of the morai in new zealand in

1772 cannot be thought strange disease people these people enjoy perfect and under uninterrupted what can't talk

uninterrupted health and all our visits to their towns among young and old men and women come crowded about us prompted

by the same curiosity that carried us to look at them we never saw a single person who appeared to have any bodily

complaint nor among the numbers that we have seen naked did we perceive the slightest eruption upon the skin or any

marks that eruption have been left behind a further proof that human nature is here untainted with disease

is a great number of old men that we saw appeared to be very ancient yet none of them were decrepit and though not equal

to the young and muscular strength we're not a wit behind them in cheerfulness and by basic

now if you're a romanticist you gotta love that that's just that's just wonderful you

know that's it tells you where to go if you want to be healthy it kind of

gives you a picture now where we need to go we need to learn what these people did

and if what we're doing that causes

this is some more hunter-gatherers they don't look weak

they look pretty solid and uh i think he's probably trying to look

mean right now i don't know but i just want to give you some examples here

this is also good the french explorer day lay danielle and his exploration in florida in 1564 noted the agility of the

women is so great they can swim over great rivers bearing their children upon one of their arms they climb up also

very nimbly upon the highest trees in the country even the most ancient women

of the country dance with the others they don't have this downhill decline okay they have this functionality curve

that is much more square boom okay you know by the time you're 30 you

realize you don't heal as fast as you used to you know wow that's that scab should

have been gone a long time ago but it's still here and then you sort of project that on out through time you know pretty

soon i'm subterranean out there and and that's not you know we all know about the the 96 year old man you found

somebody found dead in the garden one day and fixed his own breakfast that morning you know there are these people that

maintain their functionality we all know them george catlin in the 1830s describes a

crow tribe in the american indian tribe they are really a handsome and well-formed set of men as can be seen in

any part of the world there's sort of ease and grace added to their dignity of manners which gives them the air of

gentlemen at work at once i observed the other day that most of them were over six feet high it is but

to paint a vast country of green fields where the men are all red where meat is the staff of life

okay so if eating meat needs to be free range okay it's what we do to them it's not

the it's not the it's not the cow or the steer the bull it's what we do to

so we're sort of going over to this first part of here um follow the lifestyle the genes are

expected and disease does not happen okay

consider a wild animal in a pristine part of the planet if you shoot an old tiger

you go there and open its mouth teeth may be worn but it's going to be clean pristine

very functional probably not missing any unless they broke them on something

these people look really sick don't they i also got a lot of vitamin d

which i encourage everybody to take i usually recommend patients 5 000 international units a day every day

except during flu season then you double it to 10 and it's far superior to the flu shot

i'm sure somebody like to shut me down for saying that but the research is out there just 10 000 a day finland gave everyone

in their country 10 000 international units a day for over 20 years it reduces eliminated osteoporosis

reduce cancer depression allergies

and chronic infections

the paleo diet that's what i've been talking about here in a little bit and that's the diet that hunter gatherers eat that's what lauren

cordaine part of his research has done what do hunter-gatherers eat what is this diet our genes are

expecting and we cause genetic diseases by not

following that diet well the average hunter gatherer gets 70 percent of their calories from animal

that's average because you go to the polls it's 100 you go to the equator it's about 55 there were a couple of tribes that were

discovered that had an average of 45 animal there were two that's the least amount

ever found in any hunter gathering group and is a lot more than what we typically get now this is not protein 40 protein this

is 40 percent animal that is usually a very lean and in most cases

the rest is fruits nuts vegetables berries no grains no beans no

potatoes no dairy dairy is baby food period

it's designed for a baby 99 of white people are allergic to dairy

one hundred percent of blacks and hispanics are okay you get a histamine release from it

so sometimes it wakes you up a little the bacteria in the gut take the casein the major protein that's in there and

turns it into something called a casomorphon has a morphine like effect on the body well that's a wonderful

thing to happen if you're a mom and you're nursing your baby and you want it to go to sleep because then they get this morphe effect

and they kind of look drug you know so that works very well but it's not good for adults

we're all looking for a state of calm alertness calm alert yeah that sounds good

okay well the milk can do that for you but with the histamine release and

stimulating you and the casomorphin morphine like effect but it causes a chronic inflammatory

state of the gut it promotes viral replication and

you end up with the morphine-like effect which you don't really want if you want to be alert

so um let me just say that if you had a bowl

here let me just illustrate this diet a little bit better if you had a bowl here i've chopped up raw beans chopped up raw

grains chopped up raw potatoes right

that wouldn't look like food wouldn't smell like food it wouldn't taste like food and if you

ate enough of it it'd kill you that's not food okay

now vegetables fruits and berries they're calling you with their bright colors going hey look at me look at me

and whether the most bright they're the most nutritious they're even scented pretty compelling

and then we eat them animals eat them and then 10 miles down the road start depositing their seeds and piles of fertilizer

that's the propagation strategy of those plants that's why they spend so much energy to produce that fruit for us

okay so there's a co-evolution that that's been going on the plants learn to feed the animals animals learn to live

off the plants in times of drought then the plants will actually produce

extra products in their fruit or vegetable that allows the animals to deal

with the stress of that drought because they don't want those animals dying out if they die out this plant's

spending way too much energy on its seeds that aren't going to get scattered and used they're better off having

something the wind blew around and took a chance on using big numbers let's see

okay so these wild berry juices that you read about the acai and the noni juice and

the goji juice and the mangosteen and all these wild berry juices they work

if they truly are wild they actually have products go straight to our dna and turn on and turn off big banks of regulatory genes i've seen it work

miracles with patients i mean blood sugars just drop down to almost normal the guy that drinks four or five cokes a

day he's diabetic he's not going to change but he drinks his berry juice and he went from a hemoglobin a1c of about

11.2 to 7.2 just by drinking this that's a big change by the way

rheumatoid arthritis another one sleeping problems another one you just see it

but the paleo diet can actually reverse these chronic diseases you can

get rid of diabetes on this paleo diet most adults in about um so somewhere

between three weeks and four to five months just follow this diet it works

people feel better immediately helps prevent chronic disease and you need to eliminate the disease

causing foods there's two parts of this very nutrient dense foods the animal protein the vegetables the

fruits and the nuts and the berries those are very nutrient dense if you're eating nutrient-depleted foods

like breads and potatoes and the pasta and the beans

then you have to keep eating to get what you have to have so the calorie intake skyrockets not

only that those plants have have toxins in them that bind up our digestive enzymes

so you can't even get the full nutritional benefit from the more nutrient-dense foods that you may have also eaten

so we're starving you got to keep eating you don't get satiety

i always recommend start your day with a 14-ounce buffalo steak hot off the grill

guaranteed to get you through the morning now if you really want to be smart have a bunch of little spinach or something to go with it to get a little

alkalinization but that that's that's the way to start your day try it someday leftovers is also extremely easy and

that's what hunter-gatherers often do

so let's see that looks that looks good that looks good you know

kids sometimes don't even recognize that these days you've heard these food deserts where

people live in the inner city and there's no food for miles you know there's no grocery

store there's nothing they it's all fast food whatever that's just that makes that hurts me now

see i i think that looks really good even though we've eaten that looks good

all right so this is the kind of thing that humans are designed to eat

just for fun i love it so if you don't eat nutrient-dense foods

and you eat those others you got to keep eating your body will do it it's it's the

reptilian brain takes over it's not a will thing i've seen it now this is kind of interesting paleo

diet and orgasmic birth this is something that just sort of blew me away

i i had six women in my practice that had done paleo diet during their pregnancies they

did incredibly well five of them and had babies before

and they sort of came in and said that was a very different experience that whole delivery was very different

a couple of them told me and a third one did later actually i don't believe what

happened i had an orgasm pushing that baby out now i've been a fan and once said she

had seven or eight with contractions i've been a fan of this diet for many years at this point but this was a

little much i didn't know what to make of it and i'm then why why am i hearing this why

didn't somebody else know about this uh somebody's got to know somewhere i'm looking for support the only thing i

came up with is um at the time was okay get kicked out of

the garden of eden whatever that means you're no longer a hunter-gatherer anymore from the sweat of the eyebrow

that's what earned thy bread okay your work day went from two and a half hours to ten you're eating bread now

and we're gonna multiply pain in childbirth oh it didn't used to be that bad

okay that was all i could come up with and then then the compounding pharmacists

they started talking about this new trick they had using oxytocin

oxytocin they would put sublingually under the tongue let that dissolve if you have sex in the next hour it

increases dramatically the intensity and duration of orgasm well

that sounds like fun but the interesting thing to me was oxytocin is what the pituitary puts out in huge pulsations

during labor and delivery that causes the uterus to contract that dual activity of oxytocin

oxytocin's not an accident if a woman is having orgasms with her contractions all those endorphins are blocking down the

pain they're going to the baby how beautiful is this

we just over engineered this so you apparently you need to have your body in tune with the paleo diet and

lots of omega-3s and you know they're stronger their pain sensitivity really

drops and one of the uh one of the earth mothers that was at i called that but

she was sort of a massage therapist and um at a nutrition conference that we have here better grow the month

functional medicine conference and uh so i just tossed this out there to the

several what i was talking to at the time to see what would happen and this one girl says delivery's supposed to be orgasmic and i

said say that again you know and she did and i said well why and she says well because it is

you know and i think she sensed my frustration with that answer and she said well i i think

there's a book written on this called orgasmic birth so i'm on the internet as soon as i can get there

type that in well there's just tons of stuff on it 2020 did a deal on it

and they interviewed christine northrup about about it there's documentaries on it and you just see these women it's

usually in warm water you know and ideally their husband is sort of behind them holding them kissing them on the

neck and you know just sort of getting this whole mood and their experience of the contraction

you watch it it's different okay there's no screaming and thrashing around it's a very different experience

so uh yeah that's real and i just think the paleo really helps to set the stage

for that it gets the physiology more appropriate

we talk about reversing diabetes heart disease i clean out coronary arteries in my clinic like to go calcium score one

of the things that's very key and very important for the cleaning that is to get on the paleo diet

i've seen that do it by itself check a cat scan again a year later and their calcium scores have dropped quite

dramatically you clean that stuff out i know the cardiologists the bypass surgeons don't like me to say that but

you can autoimmune disease you stop the leaking of the gut

my basic formula for every patient that walks in the door doors paleo diet omega-3s and good bacteria for the gut

you know that's that's and then the more last few years i've added in vitamin d because we always aren't getting enough

of that cancer all cancers all

listen to this if you don't know what i want you to hear all cancers are obligate glucose eaters

they have to have sugar go to any oncologist office you'll find doughnuts they're encouraging milkshakes

you're doing all this stuff and you know what they'll tell you is oh if you're losing weight you're losing the battle

well that's how they get you i don't think they know what they're doing i think somebody knows i don't think they know what they're doing

paleo diet is a very low glycemic diet right so

we try to keep the fruits at a minimum because the fruits have a tremendous more sugar than they originally did

but it's mainly animal and vegetables so it really handicaps the cancer and

the body can can go after it it supercharges the immune system and it really works wonderfully well

fatigue and depression those typically go away how am i doing all the time

keep it going okay well i just wanted to show you this is my latest grandson four days old

uh nine pounds nine ounces for a paleo mom and uh he's just

he's three months old and 19 pounds you know so um

my daughter will pump the milk once in a while you know and so that her mom can you know because

she's my nutritionist also she comes to work my nutrition store and you know you look in the

refrigerator where she's got these bottles of milk and it's half fat i mean it's just

it is rich but she eats paleo now this is interesting because

this didn't reproduce very well but obviously you can see it's a graph this is a guy that 62 years old came to

my clinic thought it was pretty healthy and we

checked the blood sugar on him it came back pretty high but his hemoglobin a1c um his his blood sugar came back 404

okay that's high we liked it under 100. he didn't know his diabetic like i said

and uh his hemoglobin a1c was 11.2 okay

that's up there so i call him up to tell him and he's mad this guy is i don't want to take any

drugs i certainly want to can i meet this with diet exercise this guy's an accountant right so perfect

these they think categorically all right okay let me tell you the good foods as i said you you got the paleo diet book at

home and you haven't even read it you think you're doing it but you're not you're drinking that general foods coffee all day long and tell you the

truth i don't even think that's coffee okay so get the book read it follow it call

me with any questions and get you a little exercise program doesn't have to be huge but something you think you can do and sustain so being an accountant he

worked off exactly exactly one mile so he rides his bike one mile halfway

there you know and so eventually it upped it to two because he really enjoyed that but these are his

subsequent sugars this one i think is a 383.

this one started checking them that's a

that's three sugars for the day average the first one is fasting two or nine the next day the next day the next day

the next day the next day the next day and on now his heartburn went away here

and i'll tell you how that works but we don't have enough time for that but he was sleeping in the chair for three years day five he calls up and he said

i've got so much energy i haven't had this kind of energy in 20 25 years does the diet do this can it work this fast i

said you know what i hear this all day long you're doing great keep going day 21 his uh

his blood pressure was averaging 105 over

60 65. it had been in the 140s over the 90s okay

so he says i'm always in a good mood now you know and and that translates to

being more effective at work and i i've got i used to look at food as a reward i don't i look at it as nourishment for my

happy mind and body my reward is enjoying life more

you know when i was in las vegas several years ago at an anti-aging conference i saw this billboard

and i misremembered it i grabbed one of the little pamphlets that was there and i was on the plane i was trying to remember what it said

and uh and i thought it said insufficient reward syndrome

and i thought well that's 85 of america right so food has helped us to kind of

supplement that we're not getting enough reward we need reward you know i think that's why people turn to recreational

drugs sometimes it's because they need they want something nothing's coming in you work this hard and don't get much

back the actual article was on reward deficiency syndrome which means that certain

people's level of satiety and pleasure center didn't light up as much as others

but insufficient reward syndrome i think i'll do a paper on that someday

so these are the things that the uh

evolutionary medicine these are some of the new things that we deal with in our society the hunter-gatherers you

they can get tooth decay we don't we have some evidence of that but it's quite rare

but this is what we deal with and we can find no evidence in hunter-gatherers

postpartum depression that's an omega-3 deficiency probably more than anything else you take high-dose omega-3s during

your pregnancy and you virtually eliminate postpartum depression and your baby has

a considerably higher iq if you look that up and it's permanent now this is

an elephant drawn by my six-year-old grandson he said he drew it at sunset and i'm pretty proud of that

his mother has been paleo for many years but i think that's pretty good for a

six-year-old drawing an elephant so i'm bragging

now this is another this is another concept here okay this is called organ reserve

oregon reserve talks about the fact that we start with a lot more organ capacity than we need

to handle our daily requirements okay you only need twenty percent of the

kidney capacity you start with to handle your daily needs okay

eighty to ninety percent of the substantia the part of the brain involved with parkinson's is gone before

there's any sign of a tremor so as as we lose total capacity there's

no loss in functionality you see how this system works until you get down to whatever it is

twenty percent ten percent left uh oh we got a problem

now it makes no sense to have one system neurologic system for example good for 200 years and a cardiovascular system

good for 65. because as soon as you run out of one you're done

so if you're living in that environment from which all those systems grew

you should hit the wall with all your systems at the same time that makes sense

and then like a house of cards they just all fall because this one starts to fail this one doesn't have much reserve

capacity at all and boom boom boom at all tumbles and you're done and that's what my patient was talking

about when he was talking oh i didn't know they were sick no not sick die okay

say functionality and i like to think of it as anti-aging because that's how i kind of got started in this but you

don't age you maintain functionality yeah your skin gets wrinkles and all this kind of stuff the sun's going to do that

but your functionality remains the same and that's really what we're all looking for boom done my grandfather died at 97

sitting in the chair my doc my sister was a home health nurse and she they were still independent

married for 76 years and uh stopped off the grand dad how you doing he said well tell you the truth

i've been feeling kind of poorly today and she said he finished a sentence in his head fellow and i we think what

happens is aortic aneurysm ruptures so has zero blood pressure it's a great way to go actually

ah this is just an organ reserve there is a

way to stop aging as we think of it just be kind to those systems so that

you're not insulting them along the way treat them give them what they're expecting

um that way we maintain the function 100

until we die it's a much more friendly way to think about aging and life on this

planet you know we get mad at all these aches and pains you see the bumper sticker you know old age isn't for sissies

you know and they're talking it's tough stuff these folks are dealing with now let me just ask you this if you are

let's say you're 76 and somebody is saying you know maybe we ought to go in there and do

this or you got a bad back or something and you can treat it but somebody wants to do surgery on you

that's going to suck out some of your organ reserve i guarantee you that's a big expensive

procedure on your body so if you think about the concept of organ reserve when you quantify this decision

if you think about that then there's a total different factor here that you may want to consider

okay it's just a thought

orthomolecular medicine is just using our own chemistry to treat us

i do lots of bioidentical hormones uh in people

i use alpha lipoic acid i use digestive enzymes uh fella came to me with metastatic

melanoma he had 14 tumors all over great big his oncologist said i can't help you

anymore you need to get hospice you probably got about two weeks so he comes to me he says anything you can do and i said well

uh how much time do you say yeah and so i said yeah maybe i can help you so i put him on iv vitamin c

we got him up to 70 000 milligrams iv twice a week i also put him on digestive enzymes

proteases digest protein 22 little tablets five times a day

including once in the middle of the night they're little one of my patients we're getting rid of her metastatic breast

cancer the same way she says dr seaman i can swallow 22 tablets in one goal

okay so three weeks later he felt better than he felt in 15 years six months later his

tumors are one-fourth the size they were before that oncologist actually came to visit me he said what the heck did you

do what are you doing because he was doing the ct pet scans monitoring him i said sit down doc we got a lot to talk

about he just said we're taught in such a narrow paradigm we've just we're waiting for the next protocol to

be approved by the fda that's it i call it puppetization

it's it's an unfortunate uh it's it's a little condescending but

people get lazy they're riding the wave it's working well for them they don't want to learn a better way once when i

went to that nutrition conference uh i couldn't do it any other way i've been

dishonest

you you can treat adrenal fatigue with your own chemistry minerals vitamin c you know potassium i do a little herbal

stuff too i don't do a lot of herbs but they're very wonderful in some areas

and the good news is almost always security you rebalance the system get it working like it was it was there was a

perturbation in there something got over stressed whatever and you get give it back the body wants

to heal i want you to keep that in mind tremendously the body wants to heal and you stop insulting it with these

foods and you give the cells the nutrition they need to perform the function they can perform until you've run out of organ reserve and there's

some ways we can help that but until you run out of organ reserve the chance for cure

is really good okay um and but these are some of the things we

can treat hypertension depression addictions let me tell you about this one this is fascinating a guy comes to me and he says doc he said

can you can you do that iv amino acid therapy here i need somebody knows how to do that if you don't have that can you learn how

to do that and i said well you know i've heard about it but i don't know how to do it excuse me i said i can probably learn

how to do this he said i i i did it six and a half years ago i quit drinking for six years i'm starting to drink again

it's affecting my business so i looked into this he told me where he got it done over in durango colorado

it turns out there was a dr william hipp down in san antonio who developed this iv therapy

and in this iv were amino acids and each of those amino acids in one step was turned into a neurotransmitter in the

brain so you got an iv every day for 10 days so there's about a four hour run in time for this iv

and what's interesting they treated alcohol cocaine valium vicodin

food sexual the addictions it didn't matter what was interesting was five

years later 80 percent of those people still don't have the problem

there is nothing like that not even close for addictions it's like top off all your

neurotransmitter tanks okay back off let the dna take over okay or

modern terms reboot okay and so these you know the body wants to

heal usually what happens in a lot of these things is you know something body this goes high which causes this to go

low which causes that to go high it's like a dieseling engine if you know what that is so

that's you know the hormonal deficiencies is kind of my specialty too that's a lot of fun

um i use a lot of detoxification to get rid of the toxic load of the body we have so many

toxins these there days is this this is just a break

um i have a lake that leaks and then when it's full

it's really fun to get that's about a four and a half foot tall waterfall you go get under that and

you know play robinson crusoe or whatever tarzan

have you all ever seen that videos in 1934 i

you know if you like this kind of stuff at all to me that this was pivotal pivotal and pivotal i'm not trying with

um pivotal in my life i think and understanding uh what life should be but in 1934 there's a tarzan movie

where tarzan and jane and they walk out on this limb of this uh big tree that's

overhanging their their swimming pool that they always was swimming and

he shoves her off and she's got this evening dress on i don't even remember what the the situation before some twig

catches her evening dress and just rips it off and she goes in the water start naked

and they swim around out there and she's on his back underwater and of course that's johnny wiseman he can really swim

and and then you know and then she she drops back and holds on to his ankles and he does this kind of loop around

like this and up you know and they go up and get the air and go back down again and i thought that's the way life should

be i just thought but if you google tarzan and jane naked 1934 you'll find

it and it's really worth it's really worth looking at the other part of this is anti-aging

medicine that's american academy of anti-aging medicine it really started uh in the early 90s with a bunch of guys

who were that had a lot of knowledge and they said we're not using the technology we've got you know modern medicine isn't

really kind of letting us do that they don't like us doing this stuff and

we know a lot more we don't have time for the fda to approve it but it's safe and here's all the

research to do it they're not ever going to approve it because it's not a pharmaceutical drug so it's just not going to happen the incentives aren't

there i don't know if you know but 94 of the employees at the fda says it's crooked it's ruined it needs to be torn

down and gotten rid of former directors said it's incapable of protecting us from another vioxx

obama got a letter two days after he was elected that said we want you to know that our managers

the researchers wrote this our managers are changing the wording of our research and approving products we've disapproved

marcia angel former editor-in-chief of the new england journal of medicine says the pharmaceutical industry owns the

medical journals nothing gets published except what they approve the former editor-in-chief of british

medical journal says the medical journals exist for one purpose and one purpose only and that's an advertising

arm of the pharmaceutical industry a fellow came into my clinic

about 10 11 years ago and horrible congestive heart failure his heart was two-thirds

the width of his chest he had a 10 ejection fraction that's not compatible with life should be 60 65

they asked me if anything i could do uh and well first i sent him to the

cardiologist who said get you know short of breath chest pain call 9-1-1 kind of the

hospital whatever i got to tell you there's not much i could do for you so they came back there's anything you can do and i said well maybe i read of a

couple of french studies that talked about growth hormone as being a possible future

use in uh congestive heart failure i said i don't think it will hurt and then no it can't hurt so we put him on that

and around about 300 a month it's just a little tiny injection of his own chemistry orthomolecular medicine one of

the safest things you could possibly do is use growth hormone in spite of all the propaganda it'll reverse even

people on dialysis they get off dialysis and use growth hormones but you find sham studies out there i won't get into

that that say it won't do it and if you know anything about growth hormone that's the most ridiculous study you'll

ever read so i put him on growth hormone and six weeks later he's out chopping cedar

um life expectancy for 10 ejection fractions about one month and his

ejection fraction went from 30 went from 10 to 35 to 40 percent so i was telling another cardiologist that comes to my

clinic he since retired about this and i told him what was done and he

looked at me and he said you know we really don't see that in our literature i fell over i said i thought to myself

your literature what do you mean your literature the world's my literature what do you mean your literature and i realize that

doctors just read their journals that's it so they're so captivated

i had a patient with a squamous cell cancer in the neck and uh long story short i wasn't willing to

treat that alternatively because we couldn't find the primer i don't have anything to monitor and modern medicine has a pretty good cure rate with this

um it's horrible high-dose radiation high-dose chemo followed by complete

neck dissection but a good cure and and i said but you can do iv vitamin c that'll protect your

healthy cells from collateral damage from radiation and the chemo and it'll make the cancer cells much more

susceptible to being killed by the radiation and the chemo so he gave it to his oncologist that she hit the ceiling

no way it's going to protect the cancer cells what do i do doc i said give her these two studies and have her talk to dr drisco at the university of kansas

so much to his surprise she called dr drisco talked to one of dr grisco's phd researchers for 45 minutes came back

inspired got it made sense okay so it's not that they're

don't want to believe this stuff they're i think they're really corralled they're amazingly blinded and kept that

way but it's uh yes this is basically applying olympic athlete medicine to the individual and

it's just grown and grown and grown and it's so inspiring to go to these conferences because these are the best

people in the world i mean there really are a fourth generation endocrinologist you know from belgium and and uh olympic

trainers that with great success i saw plastic surgery by this japanese

plastic surgeon to make you want to cry it was amazing what he could do for people and it's just uh

it's just another method it does detoxification and that's why i learned the bioidentical hormones sort of got me

started but it's all real science

um bioidentical hormones i say after the

paleo diets the most bang for the buck you guys out there you can you can find you can look across

around the room and see who's all in testosterone pale big bellies um

and some other people that are working hard not to be that way but also low on testosterone

it's a safe form of ortho-molecular medicine the woman's health initiative was a scam

to get women off of it the women that use premarin only had 22 less breast cancer than the women

that didn't use any hormones at all that's when they added in the synthetic progesterone there's a 34 increase their

conclusion was hormones are bad the real reason for this study was to get women off their hormones as fast as they can

because the drug companies didn't have anything new coming down all they had was the fosamax and the bonifa and the

actinil for the bone density well you got to get women off their estrogen first or they don't need those drugs now

we know those drugs have a black box warning cause femoral fractures and if you

understood how it works and anybody bothered to read it you go that's going to cause fractures down the road

so i think that's about it gut flora digestive enzymes iv nutrition

vitamin c alkali polycastic coconut ocarina vitamins these are some things we can put in neurotransmitter

precursors i do a lot of this in my clinic i hope other doctors start taking it up because it's an incredible way to treat people

and this is my mom i don't know she's uh 87

and uh does pretty well exercise all of her life primal fitness

i'd get killed if i didn't put this in here by ken

he's an amazing guy but he's really into the exercise known really around the world builds muscle number one predictor of

life expectancy in the nursing home is muscle mass changes your entire physiology a long going debate between a

man who was the strongest man in the world at one time terry todd teaches the university of texas and ken cooper the

cooper clinic in dallas 1968 wrote a book called aerobics they argued back and forth for many

years what's the best way of measuring the health of a cell

todd said strength he said endurance now ken cooper says you're right

it's strength the aerobics didn't accomplish what we hope to accomplish resistance exercise

and nutritional supplements that works it's the best way in the world to maintain brain fitness it works better

than any drug for alzheimer's or anything else you can do it's great for diabetics increased

metabolism and helps you detoxify it you sweat it out and lactic acid by the way is a very

wonderful chelator for heavy metals so the more lactic acid you produce the more chelation you're going to do

now this is my buddy we've been friends since uh he's funny

since fifth grade and i've been trying to get him on paleo diet now he's 57 years old

and he works out a little bit doesn't take any drugs or anything but he looks pretty formidable but he is

a paleo diet fanatic okay so uh that's what you can do he feels terrific

so the medici his future okay medicine of the future evolutionary medicine the paleo diet organ reserve ortho molecular

medicine and anti-aging medicine these are the concepts that i think you should take with you

apply them listen to what your doctor is suggesting that you do and weigh it against what

you know here okay is there a better way and if you look around you'll find a better way in

almost all instances i think the medicine future will

dramatically reduce disease if we do it this way if we pay attention we keep looking for drugs whatever listening to

the government listen to the doctors you're not going to get there there's no side effects from these treatments

maintain functionality much more fully until death that's what we really want

cost is greatly reduced more morbidity is markedly reduced people are much more

in control of their own health yay you know i really think with the right program you can shut down 70 percent of

modern medicine keep keep the ers open you know that's about it ems that's really good

reduce confusion about what is appropriate for one's health so you use these paradigms you got

something to weigh it against should you give a statin drug to a 93 year old right

and more freedom to choose mode your modality

that oh okay this is a picture of my clinic in wimberley it's on 15 acres

and a little winding road to get to it's a lot of fun and that's it

i think now for the first time i understand why when you phone his cell phone

and you don't get him and you get the phone mail that what you hear is run run

so let's uh get our coffee and uh pie and uh come back and we'll have some q a

and then some good future stuff futures thank you very much just one moment the chocolate pie we have up here is german

chocolate and people need to know that it contains nuts and uh

they may come see me with questions and i teach them and they go home but i just don't i i think the

the hospitalizations are going to be a whole lot less i think first of all if they know what i know the last place they want to go is

the hospital you know so the reluctancy is not their first choice it's like their fifth choice but

i'm glad we've got hospitals i'm an md i you know i'm i'm glad they're there as a backup so i think you have a lot less

hospitalization a lot less morbidity meaning the

accumulation of more and more disease at a worse and worse rate somebody becomes diabetic they get

inspired to get healthy i forget who said it might have been hosler but said the secret to a long

healthy life is to have a chronic disease and take good care of it

however what you're citing is still anecdotal evidence uh i'm my question goes to developing

statistics well i have a plan to do that i have a plan to develop statistics on millions

of people if it goes through and i think it will so

so what kind of vitamins and supplements do you recommend what i mentioned earlier is everybody

comes to my clinic i recommend omega-3 fish oil usually about 2 000 milligrams a day of actual epa and dha you need to

get the triglyceride form and not the ethyl ester form because it's four times better absorbed there's no toxicity so

it's more expensive but it's far better for you a very good probiotic okay a really good acidophilus

um did you think what a good probiotic is because there are several well um

i'm very there's there's one called vsl3 which is a four four and a half billion colony forming units in a little packet

it's kind of expensive so i save that in case you get diarrhea from a bacterial infection or something along that line

you're having some real trouble but the one my favorite company is pharmax p-h-a-r-m-a-x it comes out of

england and that's the only one that isolated theirs from a human being come find out we have receptors for it

they have electron micrographs of it line the intestinal tract up to 200 cells deep

so that's how something found in the body one times 10 to the eighth can protect you from something found 1 times 10 to the 14th which is that bad

bacteria going through the middle and we don't have enough for the statistics yet you know you can look at

all the research there's lots of research to support every step of what we do but nobody's put it together as a meal

plan so to speak to watch to see what happens this is a don't get against the fish oil

an ethyl ester form you want to try glyceride form i also

recommend vitamin d 5000 a day for everybody every day

uh adults children you just kind of graduated on down uh one year old given a thousand a day

you know and they've got the little liquid stuff if it's liquid you only need half as much because it's 12 you have a little drops on the tongue it's

twice as it will absorb but 10 000 a day during flu season

really help protect you if you happen to get the flu then you take a hundred thousand a day for three days

and it'll really reduce your symptoms really sensitive question what about flu shots

well uh well you know there's so many aspects to flu shots here um what i would say is

they don't work uh number one they grossly inflate the numbers and the

number of people that die from the flu it's usually about two to three thousand people a year and they say it's 30 to 40 000 people a

year no those people died of pneumonia that should have been treated with an antibiotic that was started by the flu

so if you want to call that flu go ahead i don't i don't trust it

at all the first few people that came out all the experts said that swine flu is a man-made virus the man who created

tamiflu said it's a man-made virus and now they just put it in our

now they just put it in our regular flu shots so you're going to get it whether you wanted it or not

the world health organization is run by john d rockefeller and i'll leave it at that so getting back to the supplements

did you also recommend coq10 i i don't get into that unless there's a

specific problem certainly if you're taking a statin drug and you feel like oh i did i remember i was going to tell you an incident where i think you should

take a statin drug okay i think a statin drug

is appropriate for somebody who has about a 95 blockage and they're not getting

bypass for that or whatever why because a certain percentage of that blockage is

is is cholesterol in a liquefied form and if you lower the cholesterol in the

blood enough it'll begin to pull that out of there and you can open that up from a 95 percent to a 92 percent and if

you understand fluid dynamics you really increase blood flow a lot so um yeah

but i i'd use coq10 for a lot of things coq10 alpha lipoic acid no carnitine

vitamin e and c that's a really good cocktail for the mitochondria for example to really improve energy

help you detoxify that sort of thing what's a good cocktail for them

well i'd say about 300 milligrams of coq10 i would say a thousand milligrams of

l-carnitine two to three times a day alpha lipoic acid about 200 milligrams

three times a day vitamin c about two to three thousand milligrams a day

and vitamin e about 800 milligrams a day preferably mixed

tocopherols and that's for what purpose i don't think cleaning up the mita or

improving mitochondrial function mitochondria is what takes the food we eat and turns it into energy

they decline in number and functionality as we age and that enforces part of the aging process

some other questions certainly yeah as i mentioned to you

what you say seems to fit a lot of what i've experienced and done in the past and a lot of what you emphasized had to

do with getting your primary diet from meat now we're involved in

future projection issues and one of the big things that we see in the literature

is that the amount of meat that's available

for such a huge population is limited and the idea of our population when

we're talking about eight billion people now being able to eat well various meat is an issue from a how

is it going to happen in the world well i think at some point we need to put our feet on the ground and recognize what

the real problem is the real problem is we could have a utopia here

if we just have enough intelligence to start limiting population

it you know they talk about how much it costs to raise a cow and all that energy that's grain-fed livestock

i don't like grain-fed livestock i like free-range beef and that's what's in my freezer at home i've got a 48-acre

little ranchito in wimberley and it provides me about

600 pounds of beef a year and that's almost enough

you know so and it's not very productive land because it's pretty rough it's pretty

rocky stuff you know but i think that uh there's ways to do this you can grow

chickens you can grow worms you can do all these different you grow worms to feed your chickens you know i mean there's a lot of ways

that people can do this on a small basis and i'm not sure i believe all the

statistics that we're told i think that if people out in the hill country and out in the surrounding of the cities cities are the

problem if you gotta if you've got an acre you can survive

and so i i think for my perspective is a as a come to jesus moment here on what we're

going to do because you're either going to get all these diseases because if you're not true to your genes

you're going to get in trouble maybe we'll figure out another way to do it or some way to kind of limp along here i believe in technology i believe in human

beings and i think we're very smart about that i don't think we're very wise about it and i would like to see a little wisdom

added to this that's just my opinion good question back here from you sir yeah have you

looked into uh complexity of science with respect to how the body

operates have you done any of that at all complexity bias

complexity science i'm sorry uh i'm certainly not expert in it i'm studying complexity science

on my own but a couple of things have come out of the literature with respect to health

that i suggest maybe really look at because it fits in with your kind of philosophy

generally we take the heart for example we generally think that what we want is a regular heartbeat

as it turns out that's the last thing you want because your heart a normal heart beats

chaotically its beats are not the same every time

it's it's got a pattern of chaos when it starts to meet regularly you're

about to die and what do we do we work like hell to get our heart to beat regularly

right same thing with respect to breathing the breathing is a chaotic

you're chaotically your rate of breathing is chaotic children demonstrate this very well they'll lift

an arm and their heart rate will go up if an internal medicine doctor was listening to a child's heart rate they

only treat you know adults they would think that the person has a cardiac arrhythmia when it's a normal healthy

functioning child exactly same thing with respect to breathing what they found is

that with these artificial breathers that keep people alive when their lungs

don't function right that it works much more effectively if

they introduce chaotic behavior into the puppy as opposed to regular pumping same is true

with exercise you really need to vary your exercise the people that get out and run five miles every day lose lung

capacity okay same thing you're already thinking about it

i guess i was here yeah one more question and we'll shift toward talking about the future implications

here uh well one of the things we mentioned

firstly was beans what about plant proteins generally soy

beans for some perhaps for others and what about starches from things like potatoes

non-grain sources well i mentioned the paint the you know that bowl i told you here this nasty bowl that'll kill you if

you eat enough of it raw one of the ingredients there was potatoes and beans and grains okay those aren't food those

plants don't want their cd they put toxins in it they're very nutrient depleted they bind up our

digestive enzymes so you can't get the nutrition out of the more nutrient dense foods that you may also have eaten

during that same meal there's nothing good about it if you're going to a burger king and you want to order there

i suggest you to throw away both buns you can have the pickles and the lettuce and the onions and the the

all the meat you want and that'll last you longer in terms of satiety and energy than if you eat that

butt and so starch is overrated you don't have to have starches at all the body

can take you want to think about protein as time release glucose the liver will take protein turn it into sugar for you

all day long time release work harder makes more that's how we're designed okay that's why we burn out our pancreas

because of all these carbohydrates when i did the atkins diet my husband

and i first did that what you know people were criticizing me a lot but what i found was that it uh if

i started enjoying my fruits and i could taste them again okay because before we had all the

whites pastas and stuff like that ruins your taste buds it's got much more flavor it was like

there's a bouquet of flavors there now that you begin to rediscover it just if you go from from atkins to paleo

what you lose is dairy and the deli meats but you gain fruits and nuts and

vegetables you know now you can see why it's all the virtues and that's what you start craving for

that's right so just so that i could just go to a restaurant like carino's no i'll let you have

spinach instead of pasta and the trick is more or more of the restaurants

yeah when i went to break up and at the time they were serving uh spinach instead of the

pasta they were serving spinach for their lasagna dish and it was so fresh and good and then

they stopped absorbing it okay

so we have about 10 more minutes futurists sometimes say that there are

several ways to look at the future there are plausible futures there are probable futures and there are preferable futures

and then people like allen k said the best way to forecast a future is to

invent it so one way of looking at what happened here tonight is

a way to look at the future is to invent the future and i think that's really what we've heard here in terms of uh

what dr sebring has talked about but so what do you see as the main implications

of this what is the probable future related to what he said

well not just relative what he says because as like he said

he doesn't think and i don't think that people are going to buy a paleo diet anytime soon there's too

much inertia to doing things the way they are but i think what we can anticipate

in the next couple of years is a general collapse of the world economy

and that's going to confront us with a lot of painful choices we've just come out with a whole simpson

plan for reforming government spending well i i've run the numbers it's too little

too late by about 20 or 30 years what's going to have to happen

is to phase out social security pays out social uh medicare medicaid veterans

care child care uh agricultural subsidies government's uh

defense spending we're essentially going to have to phase out about 80 or 90 percent of what

government spends if if the system stays together yeah

the thing is that if people are aware that there are alternatives

they'll be more receptive to them but the account the world is not going to

support eating a paleo diet at this point not with the number of people we have

we can see in other countries where you know you see these all these starving people walking around that are

overweight but how do they get to be starving and overweight is because their local economies can

support a certain kind of food production which isn't good for them

you don't have to go to other countries to see all those people yeah the difference also issues of uh

international warfare and like that i would i would disagree with someone leaning aside the class of the

world economy but you know what the campaign against tobacco tells us is

that is that an educational campaign and a general

realization that certain things are true can can lead to a substantial change not a

complete change but it can lead to the substantial change and it's not just

um this doctor that's talking about you know this kind of a diet there's the anchor inside this

so i think there's sort of a convergence on on increasing

going back to a war or sort of yeah the green movement

watching watch out when government and music

including the power to influence government the power of big business okay including big pharma

okay big food industry big head whatever it's a big business

and they're in there and in the influence on media so like the

at least the mainstream kind of media and print media because that media is consolidated and is influenced by the

advertising of big business it's all for sale yeah it is it's all for sale so you're not going to get uh

investigative reporting that's that's neutral and challenges business

but on the other hand a potentially balancing factor is the internet discussion forums and

inability for for people from a grassroots effort having a video of a presentation like

this on our website yeah and on vimeo and getting it out there yeah there's there's a book called the

vegetarian myth written by a gal that's i just love her she's so passionate and

she used to be vegetarian but she there's a statement in her book she said when mankind put

the plow to the soil he set forth the chain of events that will end in his ultimate demise

you're on the point that i was about to make because one of the most there's a lot of very interesting things of what

you had to say one of the most striking things was the thing about evolution itself

that we're not changing our genetic structure very much a lot of other scientists have been

thinking about that and studying it and the kind of conclusion that some have come to is

evolution is continuing outside of our bodies

that the evolutionary process that we're in has moved outside our bodies

into the social structures and the thought patterns and everything that we're doing

outside of our bodies that leaves us with a really big problem

if that's true because it says that the bodies we're in are going to be stuck back

in some past time period and we're developing

intellectually far beyond that if that really bothers me but one of the

things i heard uh dr sebring saying is that if we really take care of our

genetic history in terms of the diet that we have then we free ourselves up to mentally and emotionally be free to

do all this other evolution that we're doing with social media i would disagree with that because

you know intellectually we've gone and we've created all kinds of

new things new toxins yes new you know plastics you know what a great creation

plastics was that's the most toxic thing ever regular frequency you know

radio frequencies wi-fi nuclear energy you know chemotherapy all radiation

therapy all of that and and literally we we're inventing things to kill ourselves

every day every day and so i agree with paul that that we've taken the evolutionary battle outside of

our bodies because now we're creating things that are causing problems and issues that's why we have

so many cancer rate so much such a high cancer rate you know and high death

rates from cancer can i make one point about evolution here then with the kind of population we have on earth and the

kind of mobility of breeding populations on earth evolution

has probably come to an absolute stop

what's up in general the larger the larger the population the slower the energy extinction's happening a lot faster than

evolution okay yes please oh i'd like to amplify a

little better in terms of what wayne said i see the future is one of great hope

in this area number one we have seen over the past decade consumers involved

in e-learning to take control of information for themselves they are no

longer satisfied with traditional medical approaches they're seeing others have different different

results so the clients and patients we see today are much more informed

i think the the thing that is going to change is when we can get this kind of

information out to the public so that they can make their own decisions and take control of

their own health and i think that we have a population and an evolving population that is seeking to accomplish

that they are no longer satisfied with the results that they have seen for the past decade but actually just to

extend on that the whole the whole concept of journalism and what i said about

investigative journalism and stuff on one hand you've got the consolidation

of media that is uh for sale uh through advertising to the

the big corporate people want to do us harm or whatever but on the other hand with things like a

cell phones all of them having video cameras we're seeing a huge rise

in citizen journalism we see a huge rise of non-profits doing

investigative uh research in in bloggers uh

and now some of some of the blogging you you get conversations going on that's not

necessarily productive but certain bloggers gain respect

uh because people start seeing that what they're writing about makes a lot of sense and they get a following

and there i i see is where uh that's the balancing effect that the citizens can

actually help with all right yes on the back well from a teen's point of view

i think what we have to realize is that a lot of the times the future is kind of in our own hands but most people assume

that teenagers don't want to listen and that teenagers don't want to hear what they're told but really all we do is

really listen i mean most of the kids who have political opinions it's what their parents have

told them and all we do is we listen to what other people say so that we can evaluate the rest of the world and

every team that i have ever gone out to tell about what i hear here or perhaps what i hear when i go to a documentary

with my parents everyone that has gone home and they've looked it up and then they wanted to

listen to what these people have to say and they're willing to internalize it and they're willing to hear it because

they haven't developed these prejudices or these biases that come with age and

if we could simply just have these teams that are listening and are willing to hear

things i feel like if they were just hearing the right things then we could see these sort of changes

happening and if kids were hearing things like these presentations you know i know tons of kids who have

changed their diets just because of what they've heard is bad for them and i know a lot of kids who just disregard diet as

a whole because they're told that it doesn't matter and that they're teens and that they can eat as they please

it's just something that we have to realize you have to be able to speak with youth if you want to see a change

and i feel like that's something we need to do for you thank you you also read a lot on the internet you don't just chat

to each other because don't you also learn a lot about the world that way which we didn't have because i love this

to the comment because the teams and young people in general because they don't have the bias

they're like sponges and they're looking they're experimental you know like in this 60s and 70s experimented with all

sorts of drugs and things like that but or they experiment with

religions they they're they're really looking for the the right pathway and like you said

they want to see various different opinions and i think your generation is

the ideal one to see the ground swell from uh

the citizen journalism whatever and balance that against a big corporation and make up your own mind

and then take the leadership role as you get in into the workforce we just need we just need more of you here

thanks for being here he is an ap student and uh the problem is what do we do for

the lower 70 percent of the students most of them are not that sharp okay

today i know that in my network of mothers through the years raising our kids

these women were from professional backgrounds and had a lot of education

and then had the experiences of touching upon traditional medicine for significant health issues

took it upon themselves to utilize the internet researched everything and i have friends that

have a huge following just personally of people who respect their research

respect their interests because they can do cancer treatment and they now are looking at all the artillery medicine

and looking at things from overseas and sending out tons of documentation so

that network is very much alive out there but it's alive within that

stratus of our society i my concern is while i do think that

we're evolving and there's a lot more interest and knowledge amongst people who have a certain level of

income and access to technology and understanding the level of information

represented here tonight once you start moving further down and my background is in nursing also so i've

done case management in very poor populations it's very hard when you start coming

down to take what we had tonight and get it into that level and help them to internalize what that would mean to

them and why it's so much about it that's really a challenge thank you kids

like my daughter and her friends they'll have access to that and we'll open the door they'll get it and we continue to

graduate what we learned from one another then we'll also get and at that level we will spread that information

but beyond that which is a much larger percentage of the population we really have a barrier that i don't really know

how to overturn one last comment and that was defeat on what you had said that

is taking the message to the masses because as health care costs increase

and medicaid looks at cuts more people are switching over to high

deductible insurance plans which eliminates the health maintenance annual checkups

you know how do you carry this message because for a lot of people that are on low

fixed fixed or very low incomes or they're living off of food stamps oftentimes it's cheaper for them to buy

prepared food sure dollar menu exactly you know so it's it's looking at

co-ops or farming programs and introducing those into those areas to help build that

it's 901 we're beyond our curfew um just a reminder on december 7th we'll be

continuing this conversation as well as having other conversations and i need to ask you if anybody would

not like to have your image on the video please let me know and we'll edit it out

i'd just like to make one one announcement there's a fella came to my clinic several years ago and

was filming a documentary at 28 years old he dropped dead jogging right from ems was

revived wondered why he was having such trouble his father died a very young age of heart disease started looking around for

a better way discovered the paleo diet i think he's 50 something years old now

and he's been putting together a documentary called

perfect the perfect human diet phd and uh he's really struggling to get

this thing put together but he's been around the world he's got beautiful footage and it's just the final editing

if you ever want to contribute he's been to australia with his aborigines he's been to south africa he's been in

germany so some of the digs the cro-magnon finds there etc he's really done a beautiful job the doctor i talked i mean

lauren cordain wrote the paleo diet he's out walked with him out on the football field colorado state interviewed

i interviewed lots of my patients i was in it but the main thing is if you want

to contribute at all to this guy i think he's about a hundred thousand away from getting this thing but it's a three hour

documentary for pbs and it's beautifully done from what i've seen all right well

thank you very much

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