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What is the outlook for the sector from
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your perspective over the next couple of
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Okay. So, there's two things on this.
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So, so first of all, I'll do the this is
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the great news and then I and then I'll
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do the cautionary stuff. So, so the
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great news is is that the MGA sector uh
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is the fastest growing segment PNC both
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in the UK uh Europe and internationally.
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You know, it has enormous amount of
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investment going into it from PE firms.
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There are more MGA starting up than
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there are brokers. uh and this is
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fantastic because it's delivering really
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niche underwriting expertise for the
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right for consumers. So that that the
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buoyancy of the sector and the muscle
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memory of the sector about the need to a
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ensure it looks after its capital I the
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insurer but b actually deliver uh
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consistent underwriting profits I think
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is very important. The the sort of note
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of caution is that over the next two
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years we're we are certainly heading
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into a reducing rate adequacy
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environment. So premiums are going to
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come down. MGA business is a margin
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business. So effectively MGA margins may
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actually sort of slightly drop or be or
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or be flat. And of course if the MGA's
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operational costs haven't got the
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there's always the danger that MGOS's
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will look to grow their business to meet
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their fixed costs in a market which is
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actually sort of against them. Yeah.
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And when we've seen that before in
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softening markets, for one of a better
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phrase, some MJS have got in distress
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because it hurts their capital. And if
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it hurts their capital and therefore
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you're not looking after your capital,
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you won't have a business because you're
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using third party capital to actually
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run an MGA. So that's the note of
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caution. But I am very very confident
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that you know the MGA community UK,
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Ireland and internationally and in
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Europe importantly has got the tools and
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ability to navigate this sort of next 24
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months where there's a a rating adequacy