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The Philadelphia Flyers are not tanking -- they're not going to lose games on purpose to try to get a high draft pick and it's the right move. They've been clear with their plans so it's time for fans to come to grips with it.
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Playing competitive hockey all year long
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helps. Making the playoffs, even if you
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lose in four four or five games, it
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helps getting that experience to see
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what type of intensity those games are.
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Which is why when I see people say, "Oh,
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the Flyers got a tank to get one of
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these franchise changing six players in
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the next draft." It's just such a lazy,
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boring take. I'm not going to say it's
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wrong. A tank could maybe work,
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whatever. But why are these people
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afraid to say why are these people
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afraid to give Danny Brier any sort of
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prop for what he has done? I don't think
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he's made a bad trade yet. I don't think
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he has made one bad trade. Maybe there
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are some trades that he didn't win a so-
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so trade here, but he has found Shawn
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Walker. He flipped in for a first round
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pick. He found Christian D'vorak here
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who yeah, you had to overpay. It's a
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one-year deal. He's looking fantastic.
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like
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LAR
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Lar credit to Kim Dibal for for finding
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him and saying he's the guy that he sees
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the best tool tools in
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might have saved his job.
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Trevor Zer's trade. I don't know why
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people more people weren't talking about
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that at the time and especially now when
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he's proving he can be a point per game
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player like the he got rid of Farab and
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Frost at the right time. Like they're
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not looking too good. They have big
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contracts and
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you can't just tank. Tanking does not
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work. Yes, I I tweeted about it. I
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skated about it how the Panthers did not
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tank. They didn't intentionally tank.
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They were just a horribly run
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organization. They got Eklad Barkov and
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Hubo in consecutive years in the top
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four four or three picks there. But
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the big change was, you know, trading
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Hubo and trading Weaguer to the Flames
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for Kachchuck. And they got another
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another defensive there. But that's the
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big thing is like making those trades to
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to take a risk and and change the
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franchise. And like Brriier has shown he
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can do that. Like he's not afraid to to
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make a deal. He's not afraid to
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to to make a risk.
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Yeah. And and I don't and I don't think
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national insiders quote unquote should
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be a be afraid to take a risk to say,
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"Hey, the Flyers are doing it
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differently, but maybe this is a good
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way to do it." Because you look at
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Buffalo, you look at Detroit, you look
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at San Jose's fun right now. Mella
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Bernie looks amazing, but who knows how
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long that's going to take. The Panthers
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took 10 years to win a Stanley Cup and
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coaching changes and trades. Like you
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and as a fan, like you don't want to
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watch tanking hockey. Like Saturday
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night was fun, a rivalry game against
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the Devils. Like you don't want to watch
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just okay, whatever. It's not a video
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game you can't simulate to the end of
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the season and be like, all right, let's
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get some good draft picks. You you don't
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have guaranteed top five picks. And
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getting a top 15 pick can be the same,
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if not better, if you have the right
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scouts, which the Flyers have. That's
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the big thing is developing scouting,
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picking the right guys that have the
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tools that you know you can change. You
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don't pick the guy that is the best on
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the board. You pick the guy that is the
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best projectable like because they might
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not be the best guy at age 18,
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but no one is no one is grown at age 18.
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You look at the guy that can be like,
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"Okay, who's going to be good in three,
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five, 10 years to to stick it out and
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get these guys that, yeah, if you have
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too many, you can trade them. The Flyers
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have too many wingers right now. They're
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going to trade one eventually, but it's
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a lot better than being in Buffalo or
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being well, not Chicago because they had
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a dynasty before, but like these teams
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that just have done nothing for for
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decades." It's like, yeah, it's not fun
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being, oh, maybe they'll make the
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playoffs, maybe they'll be on the cusp,
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but it's a lot more fun than winning
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winning 20 games a year and just just
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sucking.
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I Yeah, your ski like really reminded me
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of it. It really made me reconsider it
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again. Uh, a couple months ago, I wrote
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about how the Flyers didn't tank, but
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got the team the talent that teams tank
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for in Marton and Mechov. Um, I also I
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don't think people appreciate just what
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an incredible run of talent the 2023,
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2024, and 2025 drafts have been. Like
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Bedard, Celbrini, Schaefer are
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unbelievable
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prospects and players.
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You look at the three previous years,
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you've got Alexi Lafrrenier,
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uh, Owen Power, and Yuri Safovski. You
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guys are talking about tanking for hot
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for top picks. How are the Rangers
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doing? They picked first and second
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overall. They got Capo Kako and Alexi
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Lafrrenier. Kako's in Seattle now and
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Laier never lived up to his draft slot.
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Um even the Canadians, I've mentioned it
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before, they had three top five picks.
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Slapfoski isn't even the third best
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player on the team like and he was a
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first overall selection and one of them
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hasn't even cracked the NHL. Um the LA
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Kings is another example. They picked
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Quinton Biffield at two, Alex Turkot at
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five. Um, Turkot might not even be a
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viable NHL player, and Biffield's really
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good. I but I don't know if he's like
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the franchise cornerstone you expect to
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get at second overall.
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Um,
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I I I think we just got spoiled because
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especially with 2023, you had that run
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of Bedard, Carlson, Fantily, Smith, and
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Mechov in whatever order you want to put
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them. That doesn't happen all the time.
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That was the year to get a top pick to
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get that guy. Flyers got that guy at
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seven in Mechov. Um 2024, Celibbrini is
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a stud.
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Behind him,
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good players, but I don't know if
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there's a franchise. It's too soon to
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tell.
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No,
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2025, too soon to tell. Schaefer
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Schaefer out the gate looks outstanding.
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Marton looks amazing, too. The fact that
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he fell a five. The fact that he felt a
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five is
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six. Yeah. If he was a center, he
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probably would have went too.
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And
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Oh, absolutely.
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Yeah. He's the big body. Like you don't
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need if you have a winger like him like
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him with Lucenko and Mitchkov on a line
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or him with Nesbbit. If Nesbbitic can
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turn into something, Mitchkov would be
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absolutely incredible there. And like
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the Oilers, like you look at MC, they
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have McDavid. They have dry settle. They
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have not won a Stanley Cup. They tanked
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for years. Taylor Hall, Na Hopkins, Nao
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Yakapov, Darnell Nurse, Leon Dryidle,
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McDavid, Jesse Bard, uh Yamamoto,
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Bousard, Philip Broberg, Dylan Holloway,
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like
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not there. not there anymore because
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they they mismanaged their cap so badly
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that the St. Louis Blues were able to
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tender them offer sheets. What the [Β __Β ]
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were they thinking?
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Like I I get it when maybe like not the
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most diehard hockey or Flyers fans are
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like, "Oh, why don't the Flyers just
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just tank?" It's not like the NBA where
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you can get a Joel Embiid and that
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barely even worked. You made one Eastern
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Conference final. Like they didn't build
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the right way around him. They forced
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Sam Hanky out unfortunately. It's not
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like football where you can tank get a
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quarterback and and you're saved. And
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even in football, you need you need
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offensive linemen. You need you got to
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win in the trenches. In hockey,
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part of it part of it for that is
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different, too, because the players are
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older when you draft them. Yes.
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You're drafting 18 year olds in the NHL,
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but for the NFL, they've already pretty
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much finished their college careers,
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right? Like
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Yeah. Another another team I want want
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to look at is the Hurricanes. The
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Hurricanes haven't won a cup yet. have
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not made the Stanley Cup final even, but
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every year they're one of the they're
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one of the favorites at um our good
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sponsor FanDuel. They're they're one of
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the top favorites there to to win the
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East. One of the top favorites to win
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the Stanley Cup. They they didn't tank.
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Their only top 10 pick is Fetchikov at
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second overall in 2018. Uh Seth Jarvis
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was a 13th overall pick. Marty Nas was a
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12th overall pick. Jake Bean 13th
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overall. Noah Hannifin fifth overall.
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that ended up trading Aaho second round
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pick. It's it's finding these guys with
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your with your scouts. Hayden Flurry
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seventh overall, Elias Lindholm fifth
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overall. Like
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there's one.
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It's not as simple to just tank and and
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then become a become a contender because
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everything has to go right and it takes
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10 years. If you build the culture the
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right way, the Flyers can make the
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playoffs this year. The Flyers can be a
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true contender
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maybe next year in the East with the way
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the Metropolitan's going. like it's it's
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a much quicker turnaround
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and it's a lot more fun.
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