Flyers Trade Rumor Roundup: Weekend trade reaction; latest on Laughton; where could Ristolainen go?

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hello hello every I'm not sure okay go ahead you didn't talk about before I was
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still doing I was pcking with like I was muting the [ __ ] stream on my own end oh my God okay hi what's up going what's
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up uh what's up guys oh this is gonna be terrible you're gonna have to edit this for the audio out edit this out for the
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audio version they got they can deal with it they can deal with it oh my God that's that's a terrible start but um
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what's up guys uh I'm Thomas from Broad Street hockey joined by Ryan Gilbert of Broad Street hockey and we thought we'
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just take our Sunday night and thank you for joining us this beautiful Sunday night um the Oscars are on who cares about
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that um when there's trade rumors that's that's simply put but uh so we'll just
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go through like kind of what's happening in the NHL overall and how it generally affects the Flyers because everything
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affects the Flyers the Philadelphia Flyers and um yeah and then go into like the latest of the actual rumors to do
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with the Flyers and who's available and what might happen before Friday on the trade deadline um but before we do that
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uh Gilbert how's it going going pretty well so Sunday night yeah doing doing okay you know big big Flyers win last
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night I was expecting kind of more rumors around the flyers today we got the uh the cam Robinson tweet about
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Laden I mean nothing really new from anybody but yeah you know still have a lot of Trades this weekend that were uh
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pretty surprising yeah yeah there's a a lot of movement and like honestly I was
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expecting I think I I looked at like when the movement P really picked up last trade deadline and I think it was
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like the 28th and the last trade deadline was on March 8th so it kind of made sense that yesterday was like the
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first day of like a real big like here's the floodgates are kind of starting to open and here's everything starting um
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so did you want to start with like how the trades affect the Flyers kind of and go through kind of the recent trades and
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affect the market that the Flyers are going and dealing with but um kind want just do that first it feels like an easy
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kind of option or route right before getting the mey the mey of the Flyers
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deadline L of the actual rumors yeah of course anytime a trade happens and it doesn't involve the Flyers and it
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involves a player that's similar to a player the Flyers have of course it it affects the Flyers so um yeah was it
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yesterday three trades let's let's start with the sth Drone ones I think that that's the that's the biggest one that's
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kind of the most surprising uh Seth Jones and a fourth round pick uh 26%
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retained to the Florida Panthers for Spencer Knight and a 2026 first- round
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pick there so um Seth Jones wanted to be traded he got traded and the Panthers
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you know got him on on a reasonable thing there which you know this obviously impacts the Flyers with Rasmus
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R Lan being a right-handed defenseman with term less term um I'm not sure how
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Seth Jones is right now I'm not sure if you can really evaluate him on Chicago but you know this this shows you can
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maybe get a first Plus for risto yeah like it's it's not a one for
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one comparison like I I said it I think it was jpo and the slack was like I have no idea what Seth Jones is because
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obviously it's just been hiding in Chicago on such a bad team and I think of him as like take the impact that
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risto has and switch offense and defense like Seth Jones Is as Good offensively
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as risto is defensively and then it's the vice versa as well like I think they're pretty equal players they're
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both like probably number threes number fours potentially on like a real like
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playoff hunting team um obviously Seth Jones just has the pedigree and the kind
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of name and the brand to go with it but um yeah I I view them like similar
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enough where you can re realistically say that we could be like not expecting
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a per an identical package because obviously that's a lot um but it's a
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package that's worthwhile and like you said like it's at least a first round pick now like that's that's the trade
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that's the price for getting a top four right-handed defenseman that is under
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contract of course SE Jones is five more years risto is just two more years but it's still a significant amount of time
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where you can point and be like this is a problem that we fix now because by
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getting this player yeah I think it's also good for the Flyers too a little bit cuz like the
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Panthers weren't going to be in on risto I don't think like that's that's not a player going to want to have you know longer than a few seasons so you know
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yeah I mean on the Flyers Penguins broadcast on ESPN John bura said he would give up a a first and a and a
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prospect Plus for risto so hopefully the Flyers can may maybe do that there um
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yeah I mean we've talked about it before like is anything going to happen with risto we don't necessarily see it
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especially how how tarella has been talking about him but I mean Spencer Knight former first round pick as a
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goalie which is which is kind of crazy for him I know hasn't done great but the Blackhawks got their guy to control
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there so yeah if the Flyers can find something like that even if they have to give up a a third or a fourth with risto
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like I think it's definitely worth doing yeah like I think Seth Jones is a
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big kind of like how moo ranton is I forget who said it I think it was fredman said it on Saturday headlines or
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something like that um but basically all teams are waiting for the ranton indecision to be sorted out before they
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kind of go for their options like anyone any trade that's made now is are for are teams that are not going to be in on
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Ranon and if Carolina makes them available so um yeah so I think I think
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Seth Jones was that for the defenseman I think now it's like okay the big fish the big whatever Domino has follow
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whatever analogy we want to use and now we could potentially see kind of the uh
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ripple effect of set Jones going to Florida so then maybe it's like maybe Tamp decides like we're going to face
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these guys in the first round potentially we need to like also get bigger and generally stronger on the
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back end than we are um then maybe they go out and like and really try to buy
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and and price in on risto maybe it's another Atlantic team like Toronto I don't think that they're in on in on
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risto maybe it's like a team that Edmonton they've like they've been linked before with risto and and could
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see like we we were up against the Panthers that against in this cup final
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and and then they suddenly got much better so if we're in that situation again then we have to also get better
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and and uh yeah I think I think there's a there's a new kind of opening for rist
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Aline in a little bit that we can before we were like we knew what the Flyers were asking for and now it's kind
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of been cemented that they're justified in asking for that because that's simply the price for that type of player yeah
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Seth Jones ceiling is obviously higher than risto at this point especially you know down there in Florida where they have a good good Blue Line already but
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yeah it was a good point like yeah this should open up the arms race in the Eastern Conference in the Atlantic
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Carolina got mik Ron in who knows what's going on there probably gonna keep him but now Florida got Seth Jones Tampa
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needs to get somebody they're they're playing great Toronto needs you know they need a stop gap for christov on on
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IR they're in on lotton too so like the East is wide open this year no one you can't trust you can't trust Carolina
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Washington who knows how they're going to be comp play off time like the East is should be active and like every East
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playoff team or at least half of them have been linked to Scott laen yeah like it's it feels
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like the teams are just trying to fill this like hole with lton other than just
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yeah like it's it's It's tricky because also with Florida getting Jones and just
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generally getting stronger they've kind of it's not even like that they've come out on top of the East they're not
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favorites at all they're not there's of course they're strong and but kachuck you don't know how healthy he is um they
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played a lot of hockey these past few years so maybe this season comes up
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like catches up to them and you don't see them go far and then the like you
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said the East is wide open so I think it's a team that will could potentially get Lon is trying to get it like just
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over the hump a little bit especially with their depth uh scoring if that makes sense yeah no it
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it it does the there's like I said there's no one in the East yeah Florida gets better here with Seth Seth Jones
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kind of replaces the the Brandon Montour what he bought with brought with more offensive ability there but yeah I mean
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the Panthers I think right now are about tied with the Leafs in the Atlantic lightning have won a bunch of games in a
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row with vaski coming in here so another thing this this Seth Jones trade did for me is like I think okay with retaining
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some salary on risto I know the Flyers aren't necessarily um a wanting to do that but like I think
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I talked about about this with Jacob like who else are the Flyers going to retain on in the coming years I mean they have Kevin Hayes looking at their
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contracts unless they somehow trade Scott or uh Sean ctor which I don't think they're gonna do like risto is you
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would you would retain on yeah but it yeah It's Tricky cuz I
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think think having those retention spots are so valuable like now Chicago doesn't have any for the rest of the season um
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so then they can't get in on deals and like flyers were playing um [ __ ] what's
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that word the like middleman yeah the uh whatever you know middle man
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Works start with the B the broker broker broker broker okay broker it was in my
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head somewhere um the flag playing the broker for like a couple pieces and they
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got a fifth round pick or fourth round pick and then and it would prevent them from doing that but again like fans don't want more draft piics um because
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they're already mad with them having seven draft piics in the first two rounds apparently I don't know why
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yeah yeah but yeah it would prevent from them from doing that but I think the
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retaining on Riso conversation is like I think it opens up a
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huge yeah like there were reports earlier that they teams are just
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generally a little scared of the C of the cap hit even though the Cap's going up like they're just being a bunch of [ __ ] generally just like commit
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commit $5 million to a very good top four defenseman that like brings what playoff hockey again he's not playing
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he's not played off played playoff hockey but he would like that's what you
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kind of want that's like what teams pay for all as a rental they pay first run picks for like Ben shro David Savard
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like teams pay first round picks for what Bristo brings and they're not going to do it for like a guy that could do it
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triple the amount of those guys like I don't know what they're so scared
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about yeah yeah I mean five million yeah that's perfectly fine boom
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forward like we we I mean they they think about it how how we think about it when we got risto when the fers got R
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like oh my God what are they doing and then Fletcher gave him the contract we're like all right that's a bit much whatever but it's rebuild you got to got
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to deal with it so you know these teams that are are competing and have like
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rfas coming up and whatnot yeah they want to save every every million dollar they can there so I'm just looking at at
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the lightning here like they have some cap room Flyers retain a little bit on risto I could definitely see him in in
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Tampa Bay um ever since we talked last Conor geeki has been kind of on my mind of getting as a as a center option
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because he doesn't seem to be in um I know he's young now I think he's still 20 but he doesn't seem to be in the
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Lightning's plans for this year so like they only have so many years left of this core so you know that could be a
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team come out of nowhere for risto because that that's really what I think it'll be is just like oh Flyers are trading with this team just like it was
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with the flames and am I correct in that the dresdale trade was announced by the Flyers like no one no one heard about it
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and then the Flyers like sent out like a press release I I remember I was this is a super Canadian story I'm sorry for
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every American listener but I was in a Shopper's Drug mark I literally remember when I was living at a a place just
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across the street from a shoppers drug and I was going to go get gummy worms because I felt like having gummy worms I
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think it was dur was it it was during a game it was during a game first inter Mission or second inter Mission no it was just during the first
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perod okay well now I'm showing my ass that I was out not watching the game but yeah watch the
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game I was at a a drugstore picking up some candy and then uh yeah it just
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popped up on my phone I was like what the [ __ ] like I saw that got Dy in a second I was like oh who they trade for this like did they I was taking was I
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was like sick I was like oh [ __ ] what the [ __ ]
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yeah it was right after Royal Jr just like how why the [ __ ] are they tradeing coming oh my God that was so funny
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anyway do you want to get in the conversation of like how of risto destinations and stuff like because we could think could ramble and scramble
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our minds for we could we could definitely uh scramble our minds a little bit on uh where Rasmus r could go
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um yeah I don't I don't really think any of these trades that were made impact it
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I mean Avalanche got some depth depth forward in VC and depth defenseman and
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Schneider lingren one of those guys um and then yeah so
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risto Vancouver still an option Edmonton
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Dallas what I just saw the chat I just saw the chat
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yeah I shout to this guy
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okay uh yeah I think I think I think it's really interesting so I I I'm on
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cap wages it's like the cap friendly kind of Clone and they have a cool tool that like it's it shows what teams can
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fit certain players at the deadline like just like cap- wise Financial so you don't have to think about it um I think
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there's a total of one two three four five six seven eight 21 teams that can
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just fit risto right away um the out of the playoff teams are the Flames are
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kind of there hovering around the Blue Jackets Red Wings Panthers can still fit
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them under the cap the wild
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uh Blues are they like they're winning a lot they playoff team they're not uh
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Utah kind of they're kind of winning I don't know they're I don't think they're going to
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K are not going to buy in Jets so I think and that's with no like no taking
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money like any money back so I think out of that um we could say some teams but I
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think it really comes down to a couple major ones and I think the first one that I really want to point out is on
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this list and it's the Jets because I think that's just a perfect fit that it
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makes so much sense on so many levels and we've talked about this before on other like streams or podcasts or anything anything but with the Jets it
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it's a fit because first it's Winnipeg so
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teams need like that team needs player need players on long-term deals no one
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wants to sign there as a free agent unless they're a freak and then every person that they draft like
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will be very cautious like they can't basically they can't draft Americans because they won't want to go there
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that's a real that's probably a real thing CU like maity and then suddenly if like the Jets suddenly get say some for
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some reason drafted like uh a Cole Eiserman or a or Z buum or something
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last season then they're probably already thinking like oh we should probably trade these guys when they still have value and then because
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they're not going to sign here um so with risto being under contract for two more years that solves so many of their
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problems and with uh it's a similar situation to Florida where Jones is the
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answer for an eblad replacement on a different level rist would be the answer
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for a Neil Pon replacement um on the right side so it just kind of makes sense that's like team structure-wise
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with team building the context that rist Lion's locked up for so long and
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honestly that blue line needs risto like that that blue line just like is so weak
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generally like you have morisy Dello like Pan's probably they're like and then you have Dylan Samberg and lone
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Stanley are pretty good but it's like it's F like Dylan samberg's fine like he's like an email Andre where like he's
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come up and surprised excuse me surprised a little bit but Logan Stanley's a mess he's like might be the
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worst defens in the league I I think if if if the if Kevin sh chevel day off
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really strives to be more than a first round exit or even just get to the second round in a in a fairly weird
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Central Division right now I think that that just makes so much sense and they have prospects to to trade like Brad
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Lambert um Kobe Barlo is a he plays for the ASA generals he's 20 years old kind
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of left wing he's he's fine um it' be like Barlo and like I'd want more like a first also um but yeah like they have
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prospects they have picks they have stuff to trade and I think now is like the time to strike more than any time
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that's been before in Winnipeg yeah they they can't go out in the first round again and not with huk playing like this
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and yeah we saw it we saw it last night like the Flyers got tons of chances in front like they need a big defenseman in
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front of the net to to clear stuff out and Yeah per perfect replacement for for pan is Logan Stanley like a potential
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Reclamation project for Brad Shaw or is he just he's just bad no he's actually like if if you thought r ristan at least
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showed something in Buffalo like in his rookie year and stuff no Logan Stanley's like take Robert hag and like times his
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bad disc by a million so like is better yeah 100% I would take I would
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take some Moola over over uh Logan Stanley all day yeah yeah like like Brad
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Lambert we have a uh we have a special guest here I did not know we were having Kyle chasing the
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puck Sunday night just tuning in you know where yeah
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yeah just getting a direct stream uh should we do you have anything to say about the Winnipeg jet and the rofit
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while we're on the topic it seems like the to me is it's always seemed like the most natural fit because because of what
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you just said which is no one wants to sign there we know risto doesn't like to move so they are hearing that and
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they're like let's get him here for two years we'll extend him after that and yeah like I mean we could
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also I wonder if we could also offer them Ivan fedotov since we they saw how Elite his skills are against Conor huk
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and clear even more cap space but you know I'm this is just this is just spitball and so maybe they maybe after
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Thursday if we play him again they'll they could maybe dip their toes in that pond yeah they'll realize it um the jet
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do also have gilber you have another team I say the Jets do have their uh own
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first round picks in the next three drafts and don't have a second this year so like maybe you could get two firsts
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and like give them back a second with with risto or something like that like give them the worst of their seconds for
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with risto for two first I don't know like the FL like the flame second flame second and then you get two
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first and then that's just call that a day yeah or I mean it's not a bad idea where
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does Brad Lambert like value for risto like would it be Lambert in a first for risto would he I think he be Lambert in
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a second okay I think Lambert is someone that I have really liked like it like
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he's the type of player that if if some for some reason the Flyers get him in a deal I'd be like do a 45 minute rant and
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breakdown on this YouTube channel about him because I love him so much um he's super Speedy he has an interesting story
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obviously an American that was like grew up in Finland because his dad played professional hockey over there um or
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Canadian sorry Canadian and then whatever um but yeah like I think he's a
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again plays with such high Pace that the Flyers want a little on the smaller size so he could potentially not stick at
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Center but even on the wing like he's he's a player that creates so much of his own offense his AHL numbers aren't
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great right now but the Manoa moose are like maybe the worst AHL team in existence right now um so it's it's just
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generally a bad situation that he's in and Winnipeg for some reason just doesn't want to bring him up so it it's
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a situation that I think the Flyers could get their hands on and kind of
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mold him into a very very good player with the tools that he has I just love I
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love him he so sick that is good good to hear about Manitoba because I'm yeah looking at his point totals he has four
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goals 25 points 42 games but last year 21 goals 55 points in 64 games so like
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he definitely he's definitely he's been playing he's been playing pro hockey since he was 15 years old like he he's
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he was playing pro in Finland for so long and then um I think now it's just like getting to him this season where
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it's like why what am I doing where am I going like is what's the purpose of me really performing for this AHL team
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right now um that with no Talent around me but otherwise we'll get more in depth
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if if if for some reason he's in uh orange and black yeah would you be would
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you be more interested in Brad Lambert or Braden Jagger uh lamber for sure I I like
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joerger just because I think joerger is more he could stick down the middle more
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um but I think lamber just has a a more of a tool set that I think fits what
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Pella wants especially with the pace and just um highend skill I think joerger
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fits he could also fit but I think joerger's like at best a like um a third
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line Center that could play up on a on a bad like on a worst team um he might
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have another like level to his game but all all I see right now is like a third round like a sorry a third line guy um
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that might be like a second line like it might be a top six Winger but then if he sticks down the middle he be kind of more uh deeper that but
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anyways you must be mistaken there Thomas you said you know he would torture like him because he plays with Pace I thought torch coaches the guys to
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to play Slow thought I thought that was the whole the whole thing yeah you have to be in the Discord
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for that to have that opinion um Gilbert is there any like other team if we want
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to move on from the Jets because I know that's the most fit and we'd probably want to spend the most time on that but
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is there another team that kind of fits with risto I just keep going back to Dallas I could just see him see him
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there in Dallas I know they traded for cc they would have to take back either either Cc or or Matt Dumba or some sort
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of contract there to make it work but Dallas just seems like they need to make
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the move this year they got Wyatt Johnston coming up needing a contract um duchane is on a on on a good deal Jamie
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Ben probably take a pay cup but he's GNA be a free agent like they still have ainger on the 4 million deal before he
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goes up to 8.2 next year so they they need to make another move and I just think risto makes a lot of sense there
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in you know get a get a big defenseman for the for the playoffs there in Dallas I mean they've been been close before
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could finally put it together and you know they traded away their first and second this year have their first and
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second next year and obviously have those those young guys like Bourke like um you know I don't think they trade
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stank of but like they have guys there too if the Flyers do want a
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prospect yeah what do you think about the Stars Kyle the fit there um I just wonder what their I mean
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let me go in capway just quick I wonder what their their money situation is and like the Dallas to me has always
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been obvious like an obvious destination because they've drafted so well and they've drafted guys that when you look
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in retrospect at the Flyers drafts you're like man I wish we would have got that guy um but so many of those guys I
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don't know how attainable they are I mean like Wyatt Johnston good luck um
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Logan stankoven sure but he's again it's we've got he's another smallish smallish
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forward and you know we've got Brink pelier barky's going to be coming up and
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you know as much as as stupid as it is to just you know sort of not want to go
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after a player because of their size because you have um already a couple guys who are on the smaller side
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um I mean stankoven has definitely had a sophomore slump um you got Maverick bour
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um who's also not huge but again um I think I think for me the big thing
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is is money um I don't know they definitely have a need because after tanv it it definitely feels like they're
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um they need another tanv it is Guy um
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and is the do we know I I haven't followed it that closely do we know if
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henan is like probably going to be on LTI or is even on
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LTI I think he's on ltir yet he's just on IR okay right and so to me it's they
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could probably do it if we retain and I don't mind retaining but [Music]
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um I would I would they have they have plenty of players that I would I would love to get my hands on but I don't know
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know if I don't know if you could get them in Aristo trade is kind of where my my mind
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is yeah I think I think for me the Stars their next like their prospects are at a
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different level than getting like just a throw in like like Brad Lambert you could see be like a team the Jets kind
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of just give up on him be like let's just squeeze our value and we don't really we're not using the NHL right now we're like the stars are kind of using
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their guys unless you want to do like aam Bell um huge left-handed guy and
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that was that was the rumored that was like a proposed trade in like the fake trade thing on Frank serelli's thing it
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was just like one for one um which I wouldn't hate that like a a left-handed guy that's six foot s and can move and
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would be pretty nice just to like that's a better option than Logan Stanley I I I
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was just looking I was just looking at him like imagine him with with Dale or with Bon for the next like 5 10 years
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that'd be yeah that that would solve your like every concern about the Flyers blue line being too small then you could
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have like York Dale Andre and just be like there you go there's the giant guy and then you have sanim and that's just
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like okay fine we're good um yeah I I think I think that would be kind of a
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move but then also like to get big shell you probably need to get maybe take back
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Dumba I don't know how what the Stars view about him he's under contract for another year at
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3.75 um I like Dumba as a person and like a locker room guy like for because
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I was watching the wild for a very long time um but yeah like he's not playing
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great hockey right now so he' basically be next year's Eric Johnson I think like
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a seventh defenseman um but also that might be a Val a value of like the stars
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if they don't want him under the contract if they don't want him on their team next season then that kind of tips
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the scale a little bit in the Flyers favor but like we're taking back a guy give us big shell because now he's more
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valuable and you get risto for three playoff runs or whatever um but again
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the stars have their 2026 first round pick 2022 2026 second um but this year
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basically no picks at all if that's the route that the Flyers want to go to so there's a fit there there's a there's a
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way that they could do this with the Dallas Stars definitely just to play
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Devil's advoc Advocate to myself like it feels like if they want wanted risto or lton they would have like because I'd be
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like oh just give them give them both of them like that's that's what they did for Grand and CCE they gotta got a got a
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depth Center got a right-handed defenseman so I I don't know if that we should be you know maybe ruling out the
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Stars more but I mean yeah risto's definitely an upgrade on on CC on Dumba on are they the ones that that had Ryan
30:18
sud sud playing last year playoff minutes I I know the wild had him and then the Stars had him like he's just
30:24
been awful or was it the blues or was he did he join the blues this year this year Ryan is Terri yeah okay yeah yeah
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so the star I know he's on the Stars yeah man imagine going around the W the
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he's just staying in the middle of America just Nashville Minnesota St Louis Dallas just sticking
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in this one path hates water um yeah
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yeah um another another team that has come up in like a little bit of talks is
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Edmonton I think that on Ice I think makes the most sense that they're so
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desperate um maybe just because I hear it I've hear so often and because everyone's paying attention to the Oilers obviously with the hero McDavid
31:09
but all like they desperately desperately need someone on that right side next to Darnell nurse just to
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cement so they have echol buard nurse and then just there's a hole right there
31:22
where and you could see it a little bit that um nurse is like I think and I've
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said said this before on podcast but I think he's thinking too much he's you see him on the ice and just be like he
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is trying to control the play from the blue line so much more than he was
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previously and he just seems uncomfortable um yeah Alex in the chat
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says Oilers is who I think it seems like the best fit yeah like on ice it makes the most sense it makes the most sense when it comes to a puzzle in team
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building and um yeah like I think it's just uh I don't know about financial or
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picks or ects or anything like that but on the ice itself and team need I think
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the Oilers kind of top all the options right now yeah just just the admin stuff here they have five million in caps base
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um they have they traded away their first round pick this coming year to to us obviously but they have a second they
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have next year's first and next year's second um as well so I mean they I don't
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know what what prospects they potentially have though but they do have the picks they like they matoy like they got
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back from in ryac Cloud he's like he's small again he's a another small guy
32:34
who's like probably a Winger and like and then at that point it's like are are you better than peler and Bobby Brink um
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I I like I think there's one prospect that I really like um well not really
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like but there's there's yeah there's Bo Aki um Barry
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Colts guy he was on the World Junior Team um I like right-handed defenseman
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he's good but it's not like I don't think he's a long-term fit I think Bon is higher than him like he's kind of
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like he would just be a prospect that I think would be better suited for another team if Philadelphia wasn't involved um
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another name is the actually the guy that the Flyers that the Oilers drafted with the Flyers pick well the Panthers
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pick that they eventually traded to the Oilers but Sam O'Reilly so London Knight centerman he's fine he's like he's
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played a depth role with London um sometimes played in like more he's played in the top six but not on the top
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line with like e cow um and Barky he's played mainly with like Len and Sim um
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now I'm just naming London Knights and showing my junior hockey ass but uh yeah I Sam oy is fine like he's over a point
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a game but like that's kind of generally expected for a D+ one guy on London um
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so yeah he he's fine he's I I think his cealing is pretty low but again he was a
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first- round pick so I think the oils would probably just rather keep up around um so yeah prospects there not a
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whole lot again yeah it's probably as simple as something just like their
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first in 2026 um I think that's kind of the direct thing that you could just say and
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then I don't know about finances I guess if the Flyers want to retain like half a
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Mill and then just call it a day yeah I think the one thing that's interesting about Edmonton
34:26
like who know like they don't have a lot of I wouldn't say they have a lot of um
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stuff that could come back that would really excite me but they definitely have a need because if you look at their
34:38
I'm just looking at cap wages right now the only defenseman they have signed
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um for well risto yeah risto has two more seasons after this they don't have
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any defenseman signed that long besides Darnell nurse every other every other
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one of their um defenseman either has an expiring contract after this season or the next
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season so you know if Stan Bowman's looking at that and saying you know I don't want all of my defenseman to be
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expiring at the same time Risa would obviously make sense um and yeah I mean
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they're they're they have according to cap cap wages they have a few defensemen
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who could either do left or right but um I mean it's like you said earlier it's
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Bard um and past that it's I think their third pairing defenseman is um who is it
35:36
oh kingberg which like you know he seemed okay since coming back but I think they're going to want more
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than that um as far as prospects that could come back you know nothing special for me and I was just kind of trying to
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you know look around and say oh who's maybe an expiring contract we could take of theirs that you know might fit I
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don't see a lot and like if you go through their if you go through what they have like it is Rife with players
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with no move Clauses and modified no trade Clauses so um I don't really know
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it doesn't seem like there's a lot that could come back but as far as a fit it could they could very well be a fit um
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and who knows like I'll sure I'll take their 2026 first um it'll probably be a
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late one but again like maybe mcdavid's traded oh wait maybe mcdavid's traded
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and they're terrible sure I mean yeah like I said the I've said this before is
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let them lose again in this year's Cup finals and hire Jay Woodcraft and poach Conor
36:49
McDavid it's that easy just turn into the Oilers step free profit yeah oh man yeah
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a great fit but like yeah like it would have to be seavo who's just yeah he's 5'9 I didn't realize he was that small
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maybe they do get maybe they do get Sam O'Reilly and like you know pair pair him with Barky moving on up through the
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system but yeah I mean Oilers might be an offseason move because they still need to figure out how much they're
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paying Bard and what they're doing there because yeah as as Kyle said like they're all kind of locked in right
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there yeah the more I look at it honestly is um I
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think if we don't end up trading risto like there is a very real chance that we just keep risto and I don't I think if
37:37
we keep rist though there's gonna be a lot of fans who say Danny screwed up he said his price
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too high um that this isn't a rebuild and it's all that stupid [ __ ] but Riso
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has two years left the cap is going up $7.5 million on July 1st
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and I guarantee there's I I'd have to look at the defenseman who are going to be ufas on July first but there's going
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to be a lot of stupid contracts handed out on July 1 because there always is and risto at 5.1 or even if we retain a
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million and it's four like that is going to look like peanuts um to some teams um
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for the next two years past this so honestly like if we trade him great at
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this deadline but I think you probably end up having a lot better options if
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you wait until that $7 million $75 million you
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know hits all of the team's bank accounts essentially to spend um you
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have you have time with rist though and I think fans should just sort of
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prepare themselves that that's not the worst thing in the world yeah I went through the fre agent
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defenseman with uh on a stream with with Jacob with Jacob uh last week and like
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there's Chen pan eblad proov gavrikov burns orlov like Fabro but that's it
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like there's no one and people like all right we can either sign those guys or give up
39:18
something for risto who's you know improved to be better than them and yeah I I I don't get the people that are like
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oh got to trade risto right now like I could see it maybe with laon given the fact that he'll be a UFA next year but
39:32
like yeah keep rist though like the Flyers leverage only goes up as the cap
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goes up like yeah it's you want to see him make a move you want to see him traded for a first and a prospect just
39:43
like we saw Seth Jones did but like if the price if no one comes up like that's
39:48
fine hold on to him yeah yeah like it only the only
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reason we're talking about it a lot is because obviously his names come up and his names in trade boards but I wouldn't be surprised if he's still a flyer on
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March 8th like it's it's it's a situation where the Flyers are have the
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power and Danny BR doesn't want to be known as like a guy that caves in on his
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price so he has his like a first round plus um and it makes total sense it
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makes it makes perfect sense that that's the price given what we have seen on recent trades and in past deadlines and
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it's a guy that if if if a team does a trade for him it's for I think it's for the player
40:33
more than that I think it's it's a teams are worried about that
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reputation that he's had and maybe the teams just aren't watching the Flyers and what he's done under Bradshaw and torz but um he's still carrying a little
40:47
bit of Buffalo baggage but it's it's teams not wanting for the player because the contract makes so much sense like
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like K like what you're saying is like with all the free agents class like would you rather have Neil pan probably
40:59
at making like five and a half he's going to make more than risto I think you're GNA he's going to make five and a half six probably for like four years or
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something like that or five years some team's gonna commit that to him um D frab is Young um is he UFA or RFA like
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he's he's UFA I think F okay um yeah he
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he's young but like it's teens banking on what he was able to do with Columbus next to Zach rensky and seeing if he can
41:27
it for their shitty team and then um yeah like you have other like Chan it
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was his this season just a flashing of pain he's left he's left-handed so it's kind of different he doesn't provide the
41:39
same thing as R like all these guys are going to get paid more and you're going to commit more to these players than
41:45
risto so other than potentially overpaying just like trade what you'd
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want to get him but it's it's it's a tricky situation so we had a uh a little question in or a I guess a question in
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the Broad Street hockey slack from an anonymous NHL employee um has anyone talked about adjusting our
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expectations on a return on Riso if whoever takes on the whole contract without retention so would you guys be
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fine of course I don't think they're going to do this because the Flyers have set their price and they're not going to be like oh well they took on their whole
42:20
whole contract whatever would you guys be fine if it's just like a second round pick that's
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straight up today and like maybe even the worst of their second round picks this year maybe it's like a 2026 second
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and a third or something like that um if they took on the whole contract if it was a team like the Jets who can fit
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them under and stuff like that I think here's here's
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my you know without doing a lot of research my reaction to that is um I
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think I could live with it but um I think
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is let me say this I would be cool with it like I could I wouldn't even think
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twice about it if we then use that space to bring in
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players to that are much more impactful for where we're going in the near
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future um and utilize that cap space in that way because as you guys were just talking
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like if you look at the UF right-handed defenseman you talked about
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a bunch of them like I whether Aaron eblad makes the makes it to UFA um I
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would say he's probably more likely to stay there than Sam Bennett is because he's just gonna have a big market and I
43:45
mean if you look at the other right-handed defenseman who are going to be ufas this summer it's Neil pan Brent
43:50
Burns Cody CCE Dante Fabro and then like
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it's a bunch of guys who if I was on another team I'd say yeah they're probably all around the
44:02
same level of okay as risto and with the
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cap going up so dramatically I think a lot of these players are going to get contracts that are going to seem crazy
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because of those inflated numbers so again I do feel like yeah there we go I
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do feel like yeah um if someone if if the big right-handed
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fish in the pond this summer is Aon blad or Neil pan like there's going to be
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teams who want right-handed defense depth if they miss out on those guys where Rista will be very very tradable
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um so a second round pick right now I could live with it that's fine um
44:56
but I think he's I don't think there's this this you know sort of clock that is
45:01
is ticking with a great level of urgency like I know there's players I know
45:07
there's fans who are like well I want to open up that spot for whoever down in the AHL or this Prospect but I I really
45:17
don't see it as as a necessity so hey I'll take a second round pick
45:25
um but there's no I don't think if we I don't think that if we don't trade him at the
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deadline that it's going to close off the opportunity to get a really good return
45:40
like we could probably get a second round pick in the summer if not more yeah yeah or even next deadline
45:48
like his value is not gonna go down right yeah I don't think I would take a second and to your to your point like
45:55
but there there really is no like Prospect ready to come I guess people are saying they want Andre back up but I
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don't even know if risto went down if they would call up Andre or if they would like call up a right a big right-handed defenseman like H gr or um
46:09
whoever else is down there like I feel like Andre is competing with Dale maybe once if Dale shows that this stretches
46:15
for real they can stop worrying about him and you know bring Andre up and bring bring him along a little bit but
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even going into next camp like Bon I don't think is going to be competing with risto he'll be competing with Dr
46:27
for time and and then Andre for a roster spot like there's no one pushing risto
46:32
like sure Andre's look good but completely different style of defenseman and after this year he has five million
46:40
at two years and looking at some of these cap Pro or projected salaries from um cap wages which I hadn't heard of
46:46
till tonight so so so thank you guys here I mean yeah you got it's basically a clone it's of cat friendly yeah chick
46:53
Chan 8 8 million pan s eblad 7 Pro off six like Burns five and a half like no
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like it just doesn't make sense right and you get even if you take risto at full value it's $5 million
47:06
which is significantly less than that and sure if your team if you're a fan or
47:13
a GM and you're expecting to get risto and he's going to put up the same numbers that he put up in um Buffalo
47:20
like you're you're looking at the wrong thing but like contrary to what Frank zali wants
47:27
to say like he is a very like risto is now a very serviceable shutdown physical
47:34
like he's a really solid defenseman like and it's a crazy thing to say and like
47:39
I'm not just we're really not you know just getting high on our
47:44
own Supply here like he's a very good defensive defenseman now um is he an
47:54
excellent Puck mover is he fast no but like he's got a lot of defensive skill
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that like you need you need it because the
48:05
more and more of the co the the current game is Puck movers and speed and stuff
48:11
like that and if you don't have that risto can give it to you and
48:17
really unless your your defensive coach is is going to completely tell him to do something different like he's getting to
48:25
the point where he's almost said it forget it like I don't even worry about risto I don't think about risto on the
48:31
ice at all as like I don't see someone you know coming down the ice and risto's
48:36
defending and like get even remotely nervous MH yeah like it's it's he's a
48:45
player that would again like it's it's those players that we've seen move as rentals at the deadline for a similar
48:53
price that the Flyers want right now with a term and maybe he just needs like to prove
49:01
that he's healthy and he'll stay competent throughout next season so then it's like three seasons of sample size
49:08
that he's he's this player and then teams will be like okay I'll trade a first for him and whatever um but yeah I
49:15
I I think I think it's a really interesting kind of to go over the market of risto like
49:23
is there any are there any other teams that out out of the major three because I think those are the three that
49:29
everyone can think of the Stars the Jets the uh the Oilers that you could really see um go
49:38
for Rista like is there a possibility just like a wild card team that we could like maybe maybe not at this deadline
49:45
even but at the draft being like he's we want to take that next step and risto is
49:50
our guy so we'll Commit This effort because we want to flip the switch from non-playoff Team to contending for it is
49:57
there a wild card team that you could see from somewhere I was reading through Matt Lin's article from January of like
50:03
who he could see wrist line going to like Detroit maybe like they're always a
50:10
team that is going for it for no reason I'm not sure what type of prospects or picks they have but like they I mean
50:16
they have cider and then that's about it on the on the blue line there and they are a wild card team right now they're going to make the playoffs you know
50:22
Eiserman wants to prove that his eer plan is is working which who knows if it actually is but they're on there Tampa
50:29
Toronto which got me wondering like what would a what would a risto and laon package get you from Toronto and then
50:35
Vancouver but Vancouver just get get Quinn Hughes out of there someone save Quinn Hughes because it's just a mess
50:41
out there they're they're they're a total Vancouver is a me like yeah like you said it's a mess like they're
50:47
they're just counting the days until like they just eventually sell everyone and then right back into like they're in
50:53
Chicago territory after getting rid of besser Demco uh Pon Hughes and then like
50:58
Dakota Joshua is their first line Center or something like after next season or something like that but um yeah there's
51:05
definitely teams kle do you have any like wild card teams you could see um I was kind of just going through it and
51:10
like honestly to be hey this is sort of the GM exercise like I I would love to go through the teams who are like all
51:17
right what's what's their average height on defense and does rist but like I I
51:23
honestly even wonder if like I wonder if Chicago would be interested in the summer like they have a ton of cap space
51:30
Bard is very unhappy there they just got rid of their biggest minute eating
51:35
right-handed defenseman and I I mean I don't listen I
51:41
don't watch enough Chicago Blackhawks games for a multitude of reasons but like so like I know I know Bard's pissed
51:48
off there because they suck I don't know if he's necessarily getting like manhandled or anything like that or he's
51:55
getting beat up but like like Chicago would have if I'm Chicago
52:00
like there's no reason I wouldn't go after him he's cost controlled
52:06
he's yeah he's a deterrent to an extent and like he plays solid defense
52:13
like past that I that's who comes to mind and it would from there it would it
52:19
would just be from there it would be I don't see
52:24
anyone else who's obvious like I'd have to look at at Montreal like again I was about to say them yeah yeah they're
52:30
another team who I could see you know they're in the same sort of like all right we've been re rebuilding for a
52:37
while I think they they feel like Ottawa and Detroit did a couple years ago where
52:43
it's like all right we've been rebuilding for a while we've got a lot of young good players I think it's time to to really put our foot on the gas
52:49
pedal a little bit and you know for those teams like when it comes to Montreal or Chicago like if
52:56
they don't if they don't want to necessarily go out and buy on the free
53:02
agent market and spend a lot of money with these new inflated cap numbers like
53:08
why not take on a a contract that you know is really not bad at
53:15
all what do you guys how do you guys feel about about Kirby
53:21
doc I know he's having he's having surgery to be shut down now but like he seems like a guy
53:27
that that could need another change of scenery he I think
53:32
because I'm always like man he's 6'4 yeah looking at his his career
53:39
Faceoff numbers aren't great so maybe he's not a center Long Term but I mean he's big enough to
53:45
be I think I think he's a player that is yeah his size is why it brings the value
53:53
like if that makes sense like I think other times you could see a play player be like okay he's big but he brings these other things Tage Thompson
53:59
whatever but I think Kirby it's like the size is the fa first thing that you think about and then you kind of go into
54:05
but he can do this and this and he scores some goals and whatever um but yeah when when you look at Chicago I'm
54:11
just trying to look at projected cast base so under next year under the 95.5 ceiling they have $38 million and
54:21
of course they have a bunch of ufas that they're going to sell out um sell off probably at the deadline EC
54:27
um Ryan Donado Pat Maron Craig Smith and Alec Martinez are all ufas this summer
54:33
um so they're going to have to replace them guys but you could definitely see them try to like fix their blue line
54:41
basically on one fell soup like could you see like I honestly could see like them sign Chan and then also trade for
54:46
risto and then be like there's a pairing there and then be like and then you have kitki kind of stewing in Alex vaset
54:53
hanging around um TJ bro still under contract for another year so he's probably he's honestly a bottom pairing
54:59
guy at this point um Ean delro I really liked him Juniors but yeah like there there's guys that I think Chicago I
55:06
think is a very good option of spending all their money Pro they might try to potentially spend to the cap on shorter
55:13
term deals so a risto for two more years and that's their commitment um I could I
55:19
could see again we're not this is talking about like something that might happen months from now and not this week
55:26
um but yeah there I think the value of risto was never going away that's a
55:32
that's a player unlike you could like unlike lton that we've been talked about endlessly about he's a very solid bottom
55:38
six player teams are probably internally internally debating about
55:44
like is there a player maybe in the AHL that could replace could do what lton does is there a player on if we just
55:50
gave this guy more opportunity and maybe like gave him better teammates
55:56
then or line mates that could he do the same thing as loton coming in that's probably their internal debate I think
56:02
with risto there's none of that like teams could always use a rasos line in in their on their blue line um so I
56:11
don't think that I think the Fliers could just hold firm um again we've already talked about that we'd be fine
56:16
with them holding on to Riso past the deadline but I think this it's a player that just makes so much sense that to
56:24
squeeze all the value out of because that's not going away anywhere in the NHL yeah hold on to him rest of the
56:31
season I mean Montreal David svard is going to be a free agent they need someone to play with Lane Hudson I could I could see that being a quite the par
56:37
of monreal so yeah he's definitely someone that these rebuilding teams could could take a look at I I would say
56:44
um a point was just made in the slack that uh if if R goes to Chicago he's never sniffing the playoffs also Again
56:51
Play ver will not be a thing for quite a long time unfortunately unfortunate for him
56:57
but yeah do we want to move on to kind of another trade that happened in the
57:03
NHL um kind of looking at a Gustaf Nyquist trade to Minnesota and how that affects
57:09
the Flyers because everything affects the flyers every transaction affects the Flyers um so we saw gusev Nyquist go
57:16
from the national predators to the Minnesota Wild for a second round pick in 2026 so a decent a decent second
57:22
round pick um potentially depending on its his own no conditions no nothing
57:29
just a straight up second um for a 35-year-old rental that is uh not having
57:37
a good season I think is 21 points this season points in 57 games baby perfect
57:42
um last season he was good last Seas last season he scored like 75 or something like he was good last season
57:48
but I think maybe I think Bill Garen is like dependent on this is another this
57:54
is not even to do with Philly or anything thing but I think I think with uh Bill G's counting on Nyquist having
58:02
that kind of season and that everyone is just not very good in in Nashville this
58:08
this year um and again it's a familiar face and Bill garen's known to do this
58:13
like I think he's brought Marcus Johansson back a couple times um nikis is now the second time around Frederick
58:20
Gad he know in the pens organization so then he traded for him uh or signed him as a free agent it it he he's known for
58:27
just bringing guys that he knows um and nyis I think when he played in Minnesota
58:33
last in the 2022 23 season he had like 10 points in nine games through like regular season and playoffs um so he has
58:41
success there and he's looked he looked good today in the wild Bruins game but um yeah like the wild paid a second
58:48
round pick for a not very good 35-year-old um and I think that kind of
58:53
spells good things for the Flyers right now it it has to spell good things for
58:59
Scott Laden this is why you don't just you don't just trade Scott Len for a second because I mean Gustaf Nik was got a second like you you can easily get a
59:07
first for Scott Laden or just hold on to him like it's it does really seem like
59:13
this is going to be the year where he is traded but yeah this trade you have the
59:19
the ABS trade where they got that depth guys I mentioned before they gave up um a second round pick and a fourth round
59:24
pick like yeah you've seen second round picks kind of thrown around a little bit too easily maybe the Flyers should look that
59:30
way maybe a first and a second if they if they retain a little bit on on risto or on LA or whatever like yeah I mean a
59:36
second round pick for Nyquist definitely definitely a seller's market yeah I I would say so I don't
59:42
know how much Nyquist really I mean he's a forward but I think the when I think
59:48
of lot and I I feel like the the way that his Market is most affected by the
59:57
the amount of centers that are available and there's plenty of teams looking for centers and I think we all know that
1:00:04
lon's probably a better Winger but could do a fine enough job as your third or
1:00:11
fourth line Center if if you need him to be um but I mean if hey I I don't know
1:00:19
what these phone calls are like but if if if you are Danny like by all means
1:00:24
use ghav nqu as as you know sort of a bargaining chip
1:00:30
you know you're calling whoever and hey you know ghost St Nest got a a a second
1:00:36
and what is lon's got 27 points in 58 games which
1:00:41
is it's better than Nyquist and he plays a pre more premium position which is Center um plus he's got another year on
1:00:49
his contract at a very reasonable cap hit so like if anyone put it this way if if
1:00:59
Danny's making calls and all of his offers are no better than a second there's just no reason for him to sell
1:01:05
solely based on the nightquest thing um and by all means keep them if if no
1:01:12
one's going to hit your price um I I wouldn't cave on it at all
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um yeah that's where I'm at and I think I'm going to after the risto and and a
1:01:24
little bit of scooty loots here I'm I'm gonna I'm going to head out and just listen to you guys all right thanks for joining us
1:01:31
nice to uh yeah nice to chat with you Kyle yeah I'll be around this week it's it's gon to be a crazy week I'm sure
1:01:37
I'll be be listening early in the morning to FR because I think he's going through all the teams and I could just
1:01:42
imagine him saying oh my God you know oh yeah that's we'll see where he says Scotty lot's gonna go I'm sure he'll
1:01:48
have something to say about the the Last Supper photo too so oh my God yeah that
1:01:53
was so great um do you have any for that yeah yeah do you have any videos
1:02:00
coming up on the channel or anything like that to um pretty uh should be interesting
1:02:07
for for Philly Philly sports fans to tomorrow um and depending on what what
1:02:13
uh what the the Monday morning trade deadline podcasts have to have to say um
1:02:21
I might just throw my own two cents up there a little bit and um you know by the end of the
1:02:27
week even if Danny does nothing I'll we'll we're going to have a lot coming on the uh the old YouTube channel this
1:02:35
week and going forward so yeah stay tuned folks yeah so I see like 55 people
1:02:41
watching right now so they should probably subscribe if you're not subscribed you're going to be missing out on all this all these videos uh
1:02:48
probably there's probably gonna be something every every day this week and then like if and then the next week reacting to what the Flyers do or didn't
1:02:55
do and then and then looking forward and be like is there anything worth okay now the now the dropped just down to 52 I'm
1:03:00
sorry people now it's dropping to 50 okay we're not ending yeah and I mean Danny's have a
1:03:07
press conference for us to Danny's gonna have a press conference for us to to read into every every word he said we'll
1:03:14
react to that good stuff yeah Kyle before you go what are your what are your predictions who gets traded and to where if
1:03:23
anybody I'm GNA say the only trade
1:03:28
is I'm gonna say like Nick doore to
1:03:34
Chicago he can be Conor Bernard's best friend now gooded yeah yep I like it all
1:03:40
right take care y'all see you man see you man oh my God Nick delore to T like to
1:03:47
Chicago would be so funny just like yeah if they traed delore that's the
1:03:52
only they make I think I think Danny would like legit just be trolling
1:03:57
everyone like literally want just everyone to go cause a panic I could see it though I could see it um while we're
1:04:03
in kind of like a transition stage if you're if you're watching live when you got questions uh you can put them in the comments there or you can come in the
1:04:09
Discord going to try to do callers if it works um send me a message on Discord if you want to get in I have a a private
1:04:16
Channel up that we'll be uh be able to call into so we'll deal with that there or even just like just put it in the
1:04:22
Flyers Channel it be like I want in and then we'll let you in yeah yeah maybey too you don't to yeah we'll see
1:04:29
no one's going to do it so it's fine okay okay I love this just back that be love that God
1:04:39
that the night trade kind of opened my eyes too is like what can we get for crusco now can you get a second for
1:04:46
crusco can third I mean especially if you pain half did the Flames not do their due
1:04:53
diligence on like where they could dump him to yeah like if if that that's I didn't
1:05:00
even think about that that that's a kenko is more of a [ __ ] what what's the word comparison
1:05:08
I'm so it's Sunday night um he's more of a comp kmea is more of a comparison to
1:05:15
uh the NY trade than like Lon or anything because they're completely different players like I think cuz M's
1:05:21
shown enough that I feel like teams should be
1:05:26
more than interested about him in like a third line scoring Winger basically what the Flyers are doing right now um but
1:05:32
with more Talent around him like I I don't see them trading for a second
1:05:37
because I think Nish just has more track record and that's and the one thing we didn't touch on with Minnesota is they're desperate they're with Ericson
1:05:45
EK out capriso out uh brodin's week to week he's a defenseman but still um
1:05:51
they're they're Free Falling like they lost a bunch of they won tonight against the Bruins or this afternoon but um it
1:05:58
was like one nothing like that's that's not showing any signs of being able to
1:06:03
compete in the playoffs like they're Free Falling basically without two of like their best players
1:06:09
in Capri of and um Ericson X so I think the trade was made out of necessity so I
1:06:17
think that upped the value a little bit and familiar face I think it was just
1:06:22
the best package that Nashville could get obviously because it's second round pick it's nice I think with
1:06:28
Kenco I wouldn't be surprised if now is a third like you could see teams like
1:06:33
imagine him on Tampa like I don't know if Tampa wants to spend two million bucks or whatever on kenko but like you
1:06:40
put him on a second power play unit and the third line and then like if you get an injury to a [ __ ] I don't even like a
1:06:48
Hegel like if you get an injury to a second line player then he could he could probably play with that Talent
1:06:54
he's played with Elias pon you could probably play him with Braden point if you really want to like it's he might
1:06:59
not have the speed or whatever but Tampa is not a super fast team with like especially from the blue line or
1:07:05
whatever but um any competitor could because like yeah I mean he could be what Tampa Bay wanted cam Aon to be he's
1:07:12
not really working out there I mean Florida maybe they could always use you know another another forward with truck
1:07:17
down and and whatever else like Vegas they're always in on somebody Toronto like why not Toronto like you
1:07:23
you trade him and you get you trade for him obviously with like TR living's known him being in the west like being
1:07:30
obviously with Kary I think he was the Kary GM when he was on Vancouver I think that timeline works out because I don't
1:07:37
think Craig Conor was there yet anyways um so he saw like directly in his division that he was scoring 39 goals
1:07:43
with Pon like imagine him on the second line and then you could bring Matthew NIS down or something or like put
1:07:49
Matthews mner Kenco and then you yeah keep that depth n put him down low like
1:07:55
there's there's there's no reason why Kel couldn't be on in a top six and then you suddenly balance out your lines more
1:08:02
and have depth scoring and that's what the playoffs are all about because I think that's the main reason why teams
1:08:07
lose in the playoffs is that they have a lack of depth in their offense um or
1:08:13
it's just a mistaken net or whatever but um yeah like I think nightquest to Minnesota opens the doors a little bit
1:08:20
to the possibility that Keno's gone by Friday for sure yeah I mean
1:08:26
yeah because I was thinking like or maybe we can just go back in time trade have Chuck Fletcher trade jvr for a second round pick or or something like
1:08:32
this but yeah kco is the the one guy who who is who is a pending pending free
1:08:38
agent and yeah I've liked seeing him three points five games brought brought Good Vibes but if you can get a third
1:08:44
round pick that's a third round pick you can use to trade up in the first trade up in the second like it's it's
1:08:50
definitely worth it yeah like like the wild wild move
1:08:55
that one one spot to get zeve with and that they paid the third round pick to
1:09:00
do that for the with the Flyers so that's that's your move if you really like a guy um and you want to move in
1:09:06
the middle of the first or or or move one of those like those late first that they have um that's the price and then
1:09:13
you get that for a guy that was just essentially a cap dump um it's just kind of asset management I think yeah I
1:09:20
didn't even think about giz Meco like being related to this nist trade and that's kind of it makes so much sense it
1:09:25
Mak so much sense yeah so we'll see what what Danny does there if they end up if they do end up flipping him or or
1:09:34
whatnot do we want to I guess go through that Avalanche trade we can we can talk through that one yeah I've mentioned it
1:09:42
a few times now it was um pulling up on the trade tracker it was Ryan Lindgren
1:09:48
Jimmy VC and Hank Kemp for Calin danan yo Parson in a second round pick and a
1:09:55
fourth round pick both the picks are conditional to be the better pick that the Rangers have or the ABS have right
1:10:02
um yeah this kind of feels like the type of move that the ABS needed to do just get a depth defenseman get a depth
1:10:09
forward that's just what they had to add for the playoff so I don't know if the
1:10:14
ABS were potentially in on law in oristo probably not but you know this shows a
1:10:19
second round pick for two depth free agents he's like all right well if you
1:10:24
can sell you might as well yeah like like and it's a second
1:10:30
and a fourth and then obviously D's just a contract like I think he's just a UFA he'll just be a guy but I think Parson
1:10:36
is a is a decent P like piece like obviously he played pretty well um in
1:10:42
Nashville before he was moved um and yeah like I I think Parson's a decent
1:10:48
piece but obviously like if the Flyers got that in a second for l or something I wouldn't I'd be kind of disappointed
1:10:54
but um yeah like it shows that teams are still looking to secure depth and
1:11:01
obviously the AVS are trying to do it at a certain um value like they're they're kind of
1:11:08
shopping around the perimeter instead of getting their guy just like going full force so I think it just depends on
1:11:17
the again like teams that are just want
1:11:23
to like just want to play like not really commit to anyone big like don't want to get the guy um and then
1:11:31
just like play yeah again like play around the perimeter they don't want to really pay that price yet um so yeah
1:11:40
like I think that's the Baseline of like this is a depth defenseman and like you said like a depth forward which I think
1:11:46
both both are significantly worse than what the FL than LW and risto like lingren is Logan Stanly Logan Stan level
1:11:54
bad um and Jimmy V is like a journeyman at this point um so I think I think it's
1:12:01
definitely guys that are are way lower on the in the value spectrum and then that still got a second round pick out
1:12:08
of them so combined at least but yeah like I think it shows that that's I
1:12:14
think the very bottom floor of what not expect but like now we have kind of a
1:12:20
full spectrum of like here's first round pick ask and then that's the bottom of
1:12:26
like these guys are still netting some value yeah it's amazing to think like
1:12:31
okay everyone's perception of like a first round pick is so high like but like a second round pick they just throw
1:12:37
it around for whatever so obviously we're not trading lton for a second we're not trading risto for a second but
1:12:42
you know kco maybe um add add a second in with a first for for for Lon set of a
1:12:49
prospect like that's something where maybe Brier should kind of be targeting because teams like all right we're not
1:12:55
giving up to first but we're giving up a first first and a second is you to the Flyers kind of similar in value based on
1:13:01
you know the the draft pick value chart and whatever so yeah I mean three trades on Saturday or what two Saturday one
1:13:08
Sunday over the um whatever three whatever but yeah just a busy weekend a
1:13:14
busy weekend busy weekend yeah yes I I was I was half expecting something to happen today too I I I was expecting
1:13:22
something to happen something more for us for us to react to yeah now tomorrow's going to tomorrow something's
1:13:28
good going to happen we're going have to go back on here but uh have to be have to be we'll be providing great customer service during the day though
1:13:35
so yeah yeah I'm gonna be on my lunch be like oh yeah I I literally thought of
1:13:40
like I might be in the office on trade deadline day and I was like do I just book out a meeting room for like three hours and then just like be prepared to
1:13:47
podcast for my work computer I can't podcast until after work Friday so it's Friday 5 o' is going to be my reaction
1:13:54
cuz that we'll have everything with then plus Brier's press conference probably so we'll have all that
1:14:01
also probably going live tomorrow Monday fiveish with uh with Joe for the for the bsh podcast
1:14:08
proper yeah perfect um is there anything else that we want to kind of talk about I don't we' kind of touched on
1:14:13
everything that we kind of said I don't think we really Dove enough into Scott Laden but I feel like we have enough videos out there already on Scot there's
1:14:20
a there's a lot of videos yeah there's a lot of videos let me see let me uh link something in the chat there's quite a
1:14:25
few link them in the chat do the thing where they pop up on the screen or whatever I'm not sure if you do that on
1:14:30
can you do that yeah you can make them make them like pop up on the screen either at the end I know that's an option or probably sometime I I see
1:14:37
other creators oh click here click here [ __ ] like that there you go I don't even
1:14:43
know if that link worked I don't even know what that looks like um just be the
1:14:49
words I guess we'll see have to see with the chat okay yeah you you could click on it okay we got it we got it we got
1:14:55
got it yeah so watch that that's our our uh quick little thing that we did predicting or like looking at the Scott
1:15:01
lot and Dawson issues kind of like destinations destinations kind of like what we did with risto today um so watch
1:15:07
that that was before the was that was that before the devils and SS were officially rumored to be in that was
1:15:14
before because we didn't say that cops Jets Kings I think the Devils make a lot of
1:15:21
you keep saying Devils with for Mercer I think it makes so much s they the devils are in a position where they unlike
1:15:29
other teams that just want to get over the hump like Toronto Washington Kings I
1:15:34
think um I I think the Devils it makes sense with Lon with a player with term
1:15:42
other than just a rental for them that's an added kind of thing because they're so young and kind of aspiring to be
1:15:47
long-term contenders um and they had a little fright of last season it'll be like oh
1:15:53
we're not actually not anywhere good enough that I I could see the Devils on
1:16:00
uh Tom Fitzgerald really just ponying up a first round pick for laon just because be like we need someone
1:16:05
to secure the back end and the and the bottom six I don't know what their bottom six looks like I know Dawson
1:16:12
Mercer is there right now because that's a guy that I'm has Mercer on the second
1:16:18
line oh well he was on the third line earlier sorry but uh Paul cter Eric hola
1:16:24
Howa Stephan NOS Thomas tar Kur Lazar Nathan Bashan like that's fine like but
1:16:30
it's like you immediately replace Thomas tar is not having a good season um P
1:16:35
hutter's fine Chris Lazar I think any of those guys could be scratched realistically for a lawn and potentially
1:16:42
maybe you get tar Tatar coming the other way um because I think he has a decent
1:16:48
contract he has a big sizable contract he UFA 1.8 million yeah you you send him the other
1:16:55
way cuz he's not going to be any use to you um and then that's that's it so
1:17:01
that's your contract and that's kind of how you make the finances work a little bit um because they yeah they have
1:17:08
deadline cast base 2.5 and then yeah and then there you go so if you take Tatar back you could fit all of lon's contract
1:17:15
yeah gonna say maybe see if they would want kzco too have kenko sliding on that second line L in the bottom six but yeah
1:17:22
like that's that's a lot maybe they would take sure I mean Eric holl's 3.1 million through end of next year he
1:17:28
hasn't no trade clause though like if if they can make the money work I mean yeah Mercer seems like a guy what he had a
1:17:35
good season in Vegas and then was traded or has he always been with the Devils what Mercer yeah no he's a draft
1:17:43
pick he's a first- round pick okay he's a he's a good newy boy he's from newand um yeah he was a first- round
1:17:50
pick I think 18th overall he was the dra Pi that uh
1:17:55
uh he was a trade he was in a trade I think he was the I want to say the hall tra
1:18:02
no it' be on his DB I forget I'm looking up the ENT it was a good it was a big
1:18:10
trade um like for uh play from Arizona from Arizona it says it it was the
1:18:16
Taylor Hall pick it was the Taylor Hall yeah it was the Taylor Hall uh trade
1:18:21
anyways um but yeah so I think Mercer is good but you just need I think
1:18:29
lton could prevent a lot of scoring against and Mercers has a $4 million
1:18:36
capet himself so you're taking that back so they're Merc part of the if Merc part
1:18:41
of the deal they're fine yeah if mer is part of the deal then I I would be jumping for joy um and find he's a
1:18:46
center like he's on the right wing right now but he's he's played center then NH show before um again a young guy that
1:18:52
played center and he was [ __ ] at faceoffs but um yeah he's a center like he'd be a
1:18:58
center on the Flyers and you just try try that out I could see him being at least like Morgan Frost but with a more
1:19:04
bite because he car like more work ethic Morgan Frost I think is like generally what you could expect from him right now
1:19:11
and then potentially more um but I don't know if the devil's want to do that because obviously I think they like him
1:19:16
a lot but is he like the skills of Frost with the dog mentality of faraby just
1:19:21
mold them together there just put them together together just smash them together um yeah I don't know if he has
1:19:28
like the same potential like Puck skills as Frost but he he would generate the same amount
1:19:34
of offense like he's he's scored 53 points before 51 or something he's scored 50 points in the NHL before like
1:19:41
at 21 he hit Frost career high yeah 56 yeah 27 goals 29 assists in in the
1:19:47
second year so yeah that's yeah a 27 goal scorer at 21 or whatever like that's a guy that is worth that million
1:19:55
Bridge deal that he got um but I think you'd have to you'd have to pay more than Lon I think you'd be a loton and
1:20:00
like do lot Lon kco and like a a pick one one of your seconds I think one of
1:20:05
the seconds at least maybe get like a third back from the Devils or something Devils have three that's
1:20:14
wild you're talking me you're talking me into Mercer I mean Scott LA and going to the dev not be good but um like Kelly
1:20:22
Kelly's gonna love him Kelly he's from New Finland like he's Kelly is going to be obsessed with him if he if he's a
1:20:28
Philadelphia Flyer hopefully we get him then but uh
1:20:34
yeah I think outside the Devils obviously we mentioned Ottawa or Ottawa was mentioned by DeMarco as well um that
1:20:41
is a he was rumored to Ottawa before right like way like every year he's basically Ottawa needs more depth guys
1:20:47
whatever kind of fit him in there um again I think he'd be a great fit in AA like every team could kind of use a lot
1:20:54
in anyways um their deadline cost space is
1:20:59
850k so I don't know how this is going to work um I think You' get would you
1:21:04
take back yeah like yeah like that that's I
1:21:11
think I think Pinto is more maybe the same level of value as
1:21:16
Mercer but yeah it's it's It's Tricky I think like I think Ottawa also likes
1:21:22
likes Pinto well yeah but they they they like Scott laen too Flyers like Scott laen a lot oh
1:21:28
the sen I'm seeing this guy Senator 6.5 million pending UFA uh claw jeru I'm
1:21:33
seeing here maybe the Flyers can take him as a a c yeah UFA at 37 yeah Captain he's got
1:21:42
nothing left in old guy yeah I think what are the what's the drop pick situation with Ottawa I think they have
1:21:48
they have a first first they have all their picks first second third first in 2026 no second in 20 six but three third
1:21:55
round picks yeah like they they have they have the picks to make this deal if they really want it's just if they
1:22:01
believe that this year they want to go commit a little bit more to this roster
1:22:07
and Sh like go in um yeah I don't know if Pinto would
1:22:14
really be on the table like that's a guy that you would be essentially replacing him with Lon and I think you would get
1:22:22
worse like I don't know know if Ottawa is that stupid maybe maybe maybe
1:22:28
hopefully maybe but honestly like maybe maybe it's a prospect like uh Ridley
1:22:33
Greg he just signed a good like a good contract um four more years and he's
1:22:41
still an RFA he's 23 I want to say 22 uh big Center but again like limited
1:22:47
limited offensively he'd basically be a loton but younger um that's what you'd
1:22:53
basically get and and it's fine he's he's fine he's not like
1:22:59
excite an exciting player but I think it' be Greg in like a third or something like that for lton fixes a little bit of
1:23:06
the center depth but again like if you want high-end centers I don't know if like lenko Greg and like whoever and
1:23:14
Noah cage is the most exciting three centers to lay to suddenly like really try to contend there just add W Johnson
1:23:21
to them that's a solid four okay yeah if you if you top that with why Johnson that is fine by me yeah yeah um yeah I I
1:23:31
think the okay and also a good thing to point out that there's zero sense prospects that are interesting at all
1:23:37
they suck ass at drafting they're maybe the worst drafting team in the NHL so don't worry about that honestly if You'
1:23:43
be like if you be taking the draft picks away from them you doing be doing them a favor like they would just waste them
1:23:48
anyways so I think our first run pick is just what about what about Tyler bu
1:23:54
how's he been do oh my God I think he's in the e oh God no he has five five
1:24:01
points in 28 AHL games oh gosh yeah yeah he's legit bad in the AHL he's a fourth
1:24:08
line AHL guy that was drafted 10th overall yeah that's that that's so not
1:24:13
great not great um yeah I I do think though if the Flyers trade lot and I I
1:24:19
do want them to try to get a young Center back just I don't want to see I love Rodrigo whatever but I I want to
1:24:25
see you know someone come in that we can kind of at least be a little bit excited about cuz like pel yeah he's good we can
1:24:31
be excited about him bottom six Winger get someone like that can be a a middle six center but ultimately I do this is
1:24:40
think this is just all posturing until Toronto ponies up what they want yeah like I I I think there there's
1:24:47
a good crop of decent young centers um from teams that are
1:24:53
interested in law enough that it'd be fine maybe a one for one or one plus a mid round pick or
1:25:00
something like that um this is probably content so I don't know but like there's probably like Minon Greg Pinto would be
1:25:08
like on the upper echelon you get Brad Lambert in there you get like there's a good CW out of stars one there's five there's
1:25:15
there's five potential yeah MAV or there's our list um yeah so like there there's a good crop of youngish centers
1:25:23
that I think the Flyers could easily Target um in any one of those deal the lon or the risto deal that that's out
1:25:30
there from teams that are interested in both these players so um it would be interesting if they go out for one or
1:25:35
they'd rather just draft their own and kind of pair them in the luchenko Mitch
1:25:40
core that they're developing or just like get this 22y old 23 year old um
1:25:46
that's already had some development and put their own twist on them but yeah I think it's going to be really
1:25:52
interesting if if they make any of these deals yeah and like we've talked now almost 90
1:25:57
minutes on this fre Elliot Freedman is gonna release a podcast in a few hours it could could erase all of it oh my God
1:26:03
yeah it's gonna be something like like a trade could happen tonight yeah a trade could happen in hours anytime and we'
1:26:10
just be no this would be so dated I think I think I think that
1:26:17
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1:26:56
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