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Apr 14, 2026
Ryan Gilbert and Joe DeMarini preview the Philadelphia Flyers' win-and-in game against the Carolina Hurricanes, and look at some bigger-picture storylines around the team.
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Hello
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and welcome to the Broad Street Hockey
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Podcast. I am your host Ryan Gbert.
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Joining me is my co-host Joe Day.
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We are recording this on a Monday, April
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13th, 40:06, just three hours before
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puck drop between the Flyers and
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Hurricanes in a uh win and in situation
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for the Flyers. So, um
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>> doing this live hopefully people join us
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here in the chat. Um going to try to
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keep the game whatif conversation
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towards the end so if anyone listening
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to the podcast uh on Tuesday or whenever
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can get some more bigger picture stuff,
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but um we have to start right off the
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top. Joe Joe, are are you feeling are
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you feeling anxious, nervous, excited?
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What's the What's the emotion for your
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This is your first like true playoff
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winning in game day in Philadelphia as a
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Flyers fan. It really is.
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>> Yeah. I don't I don't count the 23 24
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season. That was just like a bunch of
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crazy things going right at once. Uh, I
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think most of my day if I could plaster
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the cocky distraught meter on my
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forehead, it would be fully set to
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cocky. I am feeling so cocky about
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tonight's game. But, uh, you know, I
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we'll we'll we'll talk about that later.
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I just feel so confident after they
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steamrolled the Winnipeg Jets. Um, I
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think it's worth mentioning too that the
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Flyers went into Minnesota, Denver, and
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Las Vegas and beat all of those teams in
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their own barns. So, I'm wondering, are
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these western teams any that good any
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good at all?
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>> Like,
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>> who knows? Maybe they just get to beat
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up on the Blackhawks, the Flames, the
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Canucks. They just beat up on on the on
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the little kids. You fight Fight someone
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your own size. [ __ ] Avalanche Wild.
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Come on. Come on. Um, no. But, uh,
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Hurricanes are resting a bunch of their
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players tonight. Uh, shout out our
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friends at FanDuel for sponsoring the
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show. Got Flyers at minus 164 for
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tonight. U, they opened around minus
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105. So, a huge huge change with the
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Hurricanes um, benching a bunch of
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players. You can get Porter Marone to
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score a goal at plus 260. I'm calling
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that right now. Uh, Porter Mone to score
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a goal. He's been he's been the
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difference like the the difference in
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the difference in this Flyer season is
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Michigan State losing and Porter Martone
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coming over for these past two weeks
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because the Frozen 4 was just this past
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weekend. We would have had what two
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weeks without Martone. Maybe Forester
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doesn't rush back then. But it really it
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just is those two wingers that are now
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showing the Flyers win depth. I how many
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times had we written this team off since
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like January and now here we are. Every
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every week it was like, "Yeah, they got
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a couple wins, but there's these teams
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are so far ahead of them. Oh, Tyson
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Forers's out for the rest of the season.
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Oh, they're wearing down. Dan Larars is
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falling apart.
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>> Oh, Matt Vitzkoff's playing third line,
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left wing doesn't not where he wanted to
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pull wanted to play. It's Yeah, just
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been a whole thing. And
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>> they sold at the deadline.
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>> Yeah, I Yeah, technically Bobby Rang for
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David Yurichek who uh
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>> Whoa, whoa, hold on. You're uh not doing
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a fair service to one player that the
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Flyers will face tonight for the first
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time in like what, four years? One
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Nicholas
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>> Deloreier.
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Honestly, I I'm kind of pumped for Nick
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Deloreier to get to get a welcome back
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in the the the arena is going to be
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pumping tonight. That's that's going to
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be an amazing welcome back for uh Nick
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Goreier. But we haven't podcasted
3:43
together in in almost a month. You were
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on Flight Perbally. Flyerboy's killing
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it. Fly Guys have been killing it. I've
3:48
been on
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>> spring break for me.
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>> Spring break. I've been on some post
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games with Jacob. So like there has been
3:54
a lot of scheduling issues as well, but
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like we last recorded on uh St.
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Patrick's Day uh March 17th. That was
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after the home shootout loss to the Blue
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Jackets. Dude,
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>> then they then they went on the West
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Coast and uh since then they are 10 and4
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goal differential of 52 to 34. They're
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just they just been on a absolute tear
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since then
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>> and yeah, they can win it in tonight.
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It's just been very up and down this
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season.
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>> It's the luck of the Irish clearly by
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the fact that we did that on St.
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Patrick's Day. Uh, it also could be a
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curse that we are recording now because
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the entire time that we didn't record a
4:32
regular podcast, they were unbelievably
4:35
hot. Although, they still can't win four
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games in a row, which is the weirdest
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stat quirk. They're saving it for the
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playoffs. They're going to sweep the
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Penguins in the first round. That's
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what's going to happen.
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>> That That would be great there. Um, that
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would be amazing there. Yeah, but I mean
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Porter Marone really is the
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>> the story of the team right now like and
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it's it's so exciting to be able to see
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him we because we were going to see him
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no matter what. Like he probably would
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have played maybe tomorrow if Michigan
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State had made the Frozen Four, got one
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game in for for the NHL and whatnot or
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at least the Phantoms playoff round, but
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like we're seeing him that that first
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goal against Winnipeg where he gets the
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steal in the defensive zone. Amazing
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passing play by Travis Kneknney to know
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that Marton's gonna be there and Martone
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just always ready to shoot the puck.
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It's just like you're seeing what the
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future is for this team and like right
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now Porter Marone's a lot more exciting
5:31
for people than Matt Vichkov which is
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crazy because we were so excited about
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Mitchkov last year.
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>> Yeah. But we weren't like expected to be
5:38
any good when Matt Fame Mitchkov came
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here. Like um the fact that he was so
5:44
good out the gate was just kind of a
5:46
bonus especially because he wouldn't
5:48
even be here until this summer
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technically if he had finished out his
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contract.
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>> Um but with Marton,
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Scott Wheeler just released his like top
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100 prospects in hockey over at the
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Athletic and number two is Porter
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Martone. He is in tier one with one
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other player and that's Michael Misa.
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Like he is clearly one of the best
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prospects in the NHL.
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>> Schaefer. Schaefer not up there or is
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Schaefer graduated?
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>> Schaefer would have graduated because
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he's an established NHL player. So
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Marton won't be on this list. Marton
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won't be on this list next year cuz I
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mean how can he not make the team after
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this run? Like but you know number two
6:27
prospect. That's the kind of high-end
6:29
talent this team has been craving. They
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got a guy. They got one of those guys.
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Um it's Oh, it's so fun. I can't wait to
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see the power play next season. They Oh,
6:40
well hopefully I mean because we've seen
6:42
like you see these the avalanche like
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great teams like this have great players
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and still don't have a good power play
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but Porter Barone that that first goal I
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know five on three and everything but
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like having someone like that in front
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of the net um h having someone like once
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Porter Marone starts getting the calls
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that he deserves from the refs and isn't
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getting isn't getting knocked over by
7:03
refs in in the in between whistles when
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he's having stuff explained to him like
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you you do see why People compare him to
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to Cory Perry and the Kachchucks. He he
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gets in there. He's not nearly as nasty,
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though. It seems like he's like more
7:15
like more h more happy golucky about it.
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So, uh
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>> he's more rancin. I I like more of like
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that, but still pretty gnarly.
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>> I was going to say a less not not a
7:26
dirty player, but like Tom Wilson. Like
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Tom Wilson does it all. He has a smile
7:29
on his face. He's scoring goals. He's a
7:32
true power forward. So, I don't know if
7:34
Marone's going to add those borderline
7:37
hits to his game. Hopefully not. But I
7:39
mean the all of those are are decent
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comparisons. I'll take I'll take a
7:43
Wilson. I'll take a R. And then Cory
7:45
Perry was a a pest for 20 years. He he
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won a cup in his rookie season, I
7:49
believe. And then uh did not win again
7:51
there. So maybe maybe that'll happen.
7:53
Maybe it'll happen to Harry, too.
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>> He's back with the Lightning, I think,
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right? Yeah, he he rejoined the
7:58
Lightning. Um yeah,
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>> I just uh
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>> Yeah. No, Marton is doesn't seem like a
8:03
borderline dirty player, but he will pat
8:06
your butt as he skates by the bench.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And just be a bit of like a [ __ ]
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um
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>> it's I can't wait to see him and Meechov
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together. I like there's no reason to
8:18
mess with the top nine right now.
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They're clearly Kates has found some new
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level of offense. Um Mechov has been
8:25
clicking with him. Subbing in Barky and
8:27
Bump on that third line is working.
8:30
Second line, Tippet, Forester, Zegris
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has been dynamite. What what a line. And
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then Christian D'vorak and TK have done
8:38
a great job integrating Martone into the
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top top nine of the Flyers. Like,
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>> yeah,
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>> it's just it's exciting. I I'm I'm
8:46
stoked. I I know like we might be having
8:49
playoff hockey in Philadelphia in a week
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and I'm already looking forward to next
8:52
season to see what they can do with like
8:54
no Tyson Forester injury, whatever Danny
8:56
Breer pulls off this summer.
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>> Yeah. Um, it's it's I'm stoked.
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>> I'm sto I'm stoked, Steve. Stoked.
9:03
Stoked.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. The Flyers like I give
9:06
Christian D'vorak [ __ ] all the time. I
9:07
am kind of trolling you, Steve,
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sometimes. Yes. I I heard you talking
9:10
about it on Fyperboy. Y
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>> um but yeah, I mean him between Kenkne
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and Martone like that. Flyers have two
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legit top six lines right now like the
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Zegress line, the D'vorak line. Either
9:21
of those can can beat you any given
9:23
night. Then then you have the third line
9:25
which kind of has been up and down
9:27
recently. I like Barky there more than I
9:30
uh more than I like Bump there. I I I I
9:33
do. Kate's has been amazing. He he might
9:35
[ __ ] around and score and score 20
9:37
goals. What is he up to? He's up to 17.
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>> Is he at 19? He's at No, he's at 18.
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He's at 18. I got under 18. Me at 18.
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D'vorak at 18. Like
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>> I need I need three of those guys. We
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get a pair tonight. Maybe one tomorrow
9:51
as uh as well. Uh, but yeah,
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>> I want I want Tippet to get to 30. I
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want Tippet to hit 30 points.
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>> He could He could easy He could easily
10:00
get to I want Zagris to get to 70
10:02
points, but he needs four. And I feel
10:04
like if they win tonight, they're going
10:05
to rest a bunch of guys tomorrow. But
10:07
let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let's
10:09
Let's see what they can do there. But
10:11
Barky Barky just fits so much better on
10:14
that third line. I I want Alex Bump in
10:16
the lineup. Has a hell of a shot. Beats
10:18
Sroen from a weird weird angle there.
10:21
Yeah,
10:21
>> but Meechov and Kates have looked good
10:23
together. Barky brings the energy on
10:25
that line.
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>> And really, besides Martone and
10:29
Forester, one of the biggest additions
10:31
has been Luke Landenning. Like Luke
10:33
Glenn Denning on that fourth line with
10:35
Shan Coutureier, that's like a legit
10:37
shutdown line. like you can put that
10:39
line up against
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>> not any line in the league, but like
10:42
most top lines, most second lines, and
10:45
then you can play Kates against the
10:47
other line, and you have your top six to
10:48
just roam free against the other team's
10:51
bottom six if you have uh the last
10:53
matchup at home. So, I'm not sure who
10:56
they're going to cycle in on that wing.
10:58
Probably Haway. Haway has looked best.
11:01
He does kind of fit that one uh thing
11:03
the best, but like the Flyers, you look
11:06
at their forwards, it's it's a good
11:07
hockey team. It's a good hockey team.
11:09
>> It's a good That is a I would even say
11:12
it might be a great forward group. Yes,
11:14
they're missing a true topline center,
11:17
but
11:18
who wouldn't want like who isn't missing
11:21
a true topline center at some point in
11:23
their like rebuild or in the development
11:25
of a team. Um yeah, Glenn Denning picked
11:28
up off the scrap heap and turning out to
11:30
be the solution. Do you think they give
11:33
him like a one-year 13th forward
11:35
contract next season just just to be a
11:38
guy to rotate in if they have to or is
11:41
there such a is there are there so many
11:43
prospects pushing for time that they
11:44
just have to be like sink or swim?
11:47
>> I think I think if they can find a way
11:49
to move Haway, I would rather have Glenn
11:51
Denning than Haway. Faceoffs,
11:53
right-handed faceoffs, they don't have
11:55
many right-handed centers that can take
11:57
draws. Um depends on Lucenko's
12:00
development. Um he because he's going to
12:02
be a full-time pro next year. Jack
12:05
Nesbbit is the one going to Michigan I
12:07
believe we saw Anna uh over the weekend.
12:10
>> So like they don't really have centers
12:12
coming up ready to go. So like if you're
12:14
going to have Glenn Denning as your
12:16
fourth line winger center duo with
12:18
Coutureier, there's there there's worse
12:20
options. Like yeah, you want to see
12:22
Bump, you want to see Barky, you want to
12:23
see Gbankin, but like you want to see
12:26
those guys in the top nine or getting
12:28
more time in the AHL. So,
12:30
>> well,
12:31
>> it would be tough, but like if he if
12:32
he's if he welcomes a 13th forward role
12:35
where he comes in where when everyone's
12:38
healthy, he doesn't play. If he's like
12:41
the Deloreier from the past few years,
12:43
perfectly fine. Like, I'm
12:45
>> minus the fight.
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>> Minus the fight. Minus the fight.
12:47
>> I think too, you know, we were knocking
12:50
earlier in the season the D'vorak Z
12:52
hybrid shtick like all that talk about,
12:54
oh, they're playing a hybrid role. Well,
12:56
guess what's working on the fourth line?
12:58
Glenn Denning and Coutier playing this
12:59
kind of
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>> high ve very different very different
13:02
very different
13:03
>> okay but I I do imagine putting Gbankin
13:07
on that right wing instead of Hway like
13:10
this this is a fourth line too important
13:13
to note if they're not rolling they're
13:15
not playing which is fine but if they
13:17
are playing um you know good taka gives
13:21
them more minutes which I love like
13:24
they're not
13:25
>> pigeon holed into those fourthline
13:26
minutes Yeah, like if the Flyers if the
13:29
Flyers have a big lead like in Winnipeg,
13:31
they can just roll the fourth line out
13:32
there for most of the third period, rest
13:34
their guys and whatnot. Uh, I want to
13:36
shout out here. I got a super chat from
13:38
the blue Raha 5941. Miss you. Go Flyers.
13:42
Thoughts on Yurichek? Uh, yeah, Flyers.
13:45
Flyers rewarded Yurichek by calling him
13:47
up yesterday. I imagine in case
13:51
tomorrow's game is truly meaningless,
13:53
get him in there. Maybe there there is
13:56
some sort of injury and they don't want
13:58
to have to play Noah Jolen in a uh in a
14:01
winner go home scenario. But um yeah,
14:04
I'm excited about Eurichek. Like I'm not
14:07
as much as I was excited about Dale, but
14:10
Joe, you you seem to be uh quite quite
14:13
excited about David Yurich.
14:14
>> I I was just thinking about this last
14:17
night, too. Um, I am so deliriously high
14:21
on this whole year thing because, oh
14:24
yeah, he's weak defensively. He's on his
14:26
third NHL team. Like, it's a real risk.
14:30
He's probably not got that. He has he's
14:33
been a point per game player in the AHL.
14:36
But forget all that. Forget all that.
14:39
His first stop was the Columbus Blue
14:41
Jackets. I don't know if you noticed
14:42
this, but they're on the verge of being
14:43
eliminated at the final hour again for
14:46
the second season in a row. Not the
14:48
greatest developmental environment. Then
14:50
he goes to the Minnesota Wild and he
14:54
gets stuck in a log jam after they trade
14:56
for Quinn Hughes. Like this guy, they
14:58
don't have the time or capacity to
15:00
develop him because they're trying to
15:01
win a Stanley Cup right [ __ ] now. And
15:05
giving this kid who is raw but talented
15:08
the minutes to figure it out or the
15:10
specialized coaching to help him figure
15:12
it out doesn't make sense. I don't know
15:14
why Bill Garren traded all of those
15:16
draft picks for him. But hey man, Flyers
15:18
gained from that. I am stupid excited to
15:21
see him in a regular role next season.
15:23
>> Yeah, like I I'm excited as well. He
15:26
does seem like he can be a nice third
15:28
pair guy, power play specialist at the
15:30
very least. You see some of his
15:32
highlights with the Phantoms. He uh
15:34
definitely has the offensive ability. So
15:36
yeah, if you if you if if if you if you
15:39
trade Risto like you have Dale Bonk
15:42
possibly and Uraichek on the on the
15:45
right side there if you keep Risto and
15:48
maybe trade him next deadline, you have
15:49
Dale and then whoever or Bonk proves
15:53
that they deserve it because like and
15:55
it's never it's never a bad thing to
15:57
have too many right-handed defenseman.
15:58
Everyone always wants a right-hand shot.
16:00
year has the inside track because he's
16:02
not waivers exempt. So he probably gets
16:06
he probably gets priority and he would
16:08
get claimed if they waved him absolutely
16:10
100% you cannot you cannot so so they're
16:13
not going to they're not going to bring
16:14
him up until he is proven that he can
16:18
come up and be the guy which you know
16:21
and a lot of that might have to do with
16:23
how Jamie Dale improves. He's improved a
16:26
ton this season. We'll see if he can
16:28
keep that up defensively going into next
16:30
season because that is Jirro Jirak's one
16:32
downside is is his defensive play like
16:35
>> So,
16:36
sorry, finish your thought. I've got
16:38
I've got more on this.
16:39
>> Go ahead, please.
16:40
>> So, first of all, the success the Flyers
16:42
have had with Dale. I know some people
16:44
are like, "Oh, that was Brad Shaw." He
16:46
has continued to improve this year at
16:48
like a steep upward trajectory even
16:50
without Brad Shaw. There are two other
16:52
players that I have considered like best
16:56
case scenario for this. Um, one of them
16:59
is on the actually both of them are on
17:01
the St. Louis Blues. So maybe I'm like
17:02
too close to this because I I bleed
17:04
blue.
17:04
>> You do bleed blue.
17:06
>> I do bleed blue.
17:07
>> Philip Broberg was a cast out by the
17:10
Edmonton Oilers because they were a team
17:13
trying to win a Stanley Cup. They
17:14
couldn't give him the minutes. They
17:15
couldn't give him the development time.
17:16
The coaching staff didn't trust him. He
17:18
gets offer cheated for I guess it was a
17:21
second round pick and he's now like
17:23
pretty much a top pair defenseman or at
17:24
the very least a very good top four
17:26
defenseman for the St. Louis Blues. The
17:28
other one is Logan Mayu who has been a
17:32
disaster for most of this season. Just a
17:35
just awful awful awful defense play. He
17:39
since the Olympic break has been playing
17:41
like four or five more minutes per night
17:44
and has been unbelievable in them. like
17:47
he has completely flipped the narrative
17:49
in just a month and a half. Um, like
17:54
these kinds of defensemen, they are raw,
17:56
but you give them the runway and the
17:58
time and the development, I'm I'm just
18:01
really confident. I'm really confident
18:02
in the Flyers ability to get this done.
18:04
And I know that's like he's just got
18:07
those orange tinted glasses, but looking
18:09
at other highly like highly regarded
18:12
defenseman in the league and one of them
18:14
that the Flyers have developed
18:16
themselves in Dale,
18:18
>> I just I just think they can do it.
18:19
>> I mean, yeah, you you you you're I I can
18:22
feel the excitement just radiating off
18:24
of you. Like that's why I was like
18:25
smiling there while you were talking. I
18:27
can just I can just feel it from going
18:28
like yeah it's it's exciting to have a
18:30
guy like this who you know Bobby Brink a
18:32
good player gonna be a could have been a
18:35
key role player here probably a decent
18:37
role player for the wild but getting a
18:39
young right-handed defenseman that can
18:42
turn into the next Dale like imagine
18:44
just cloning Dale and having having two
18:46
of them on your right side um I don't
18:49
mind him not being up here at the NHL
18:51
level got a question what's the downside
18:53
of playing at Uraichek in place of Noah
18:55
Jolen
18:56
Um, I'd play Yerichek over Jules just,
18:59
you know, if it's a one game, who's
19:01
gonna who's going to be better player?
19:03
But Jules does.
19:04
>> Not right now. Not like today. If there
19:06
was a I don't know if I'd want Jire over
19:09
Jules today.
19:10
>> Today in this in this must-win
19:12
situation.
19:13
>> Yeah. Well, they don't have to win. They
19:15
I tweeted it last night, but if they
19:16
lose in overtime twice, they still
19:18
qualify, which is the most nightmarish
19:20
way for this thing to go.
19:23
>> Yeah. Hopefully they have Yeah,
19:25
whatever. they have to win. But like,
19:26
okay, like like he's probably a better
19:29
overall defenseman right now than Noah
19:31
Jules, but the down but the risks that
19:34
he's he takes and he doesn't have the
19:36
experience like we always like, oh, a
19:38
veteran experience. Got to get the
19:39
veteran presence in there. But there it
19:41
it it does mean something. Like it does
19:43
mean something having that veteran
19:44
presence, being with the team the whole
19:46
season, knowing the defensive structure,
19:49
when to block shots, what passing lanes
19:51
to to block and whatnot. And you know,
19:53
right now we got Emil Andre killing it
19:55
on the third pair. So uh no reason no
19:57
reason to uh branch up right now. And I
20:00
I do think they called up to reward him
20:03
one, but also to give Rick Tocket uh an
20:06
eighth defenseman so we can play a
20:08
fourth pair in practice. He has talked
20:10
about how he he likes to do that and
20:12
whatever. I I don't mind it.
20:13
>> And maybe just meet him period. Like he
20:16
went straight to the AHL. I don't know
20:18
if Rick Takett and Urrich would have had
20:20
a chance to necessarily meet, right?
20:23
Like
20:25
>> May, maybe they maybe they organized
20:26
like a teamwide AHL NHL dinner or
20:30
something, but who knows?
20:33
>> Yeah. Uh Phantoms are still fighting for
20:35
their playoff lives um in the Atlant
20:37
Atlantic division of the AHL. I saw Jack
20:40
Bergland had a big uh shootout goal
20:42
there on Sunday in the 34 4-3 win over
20:46
our our famous Ivan Fedoto Fotov. He
20:49
beat there in the shootout for the uh
20:51
for Cleveland. So Jack Bergland is over.
20:53
Uh we weren't sure if he was going to be
20:55
in the SHL next year or the AHL, but a
20:58
lot of people excited about him after a
21:00
big world juniors. And you know what?
21:02
Why not? Why not?
21:03
>> Why not? It could still go either way
21:05
for next year. like if if he doesn't
21:07
make the Flyers, which he probably
21:09
would, there's the op there's the option
21:11
to loan him back to the SHL instead of
21:13
playing him with the Phantoms. So, we'll
21:15
we'll see what happens next year, right?
21:18
So,
21:18
>> yeah, good good to have him in in here.
21:21
And going back to a bit ago, we were
21:22
talking about like if Zegris can be or
21:24
like the Flyers don't have a top center
21:27
or whatever. Like I feel like Ziggris
21:28
Ziggris is arguably I mean he's a top
21:32
six center, arguably a top line center.
21:34
Like when you search on NHL.com by
21:37
center, like sometimes they filter out
21:39
some guys there, but whatever. Um,
21:42
Zegris, he hasn't played the whole
21:44
season at at W at center, of course, but
21:46
66 points is uh well, Seth Jarvis is on
21:49
here as well. He's not a center, but Leo
21:51
Carlson, Leo Carlson, 66 points in 68
21:54
games. Dylan Larkin 67 points in 73
21:57
games. Uh, Nicoir 66 points in 81 games.
22:00
Not quite as good defensively as heir,
22:02
but like only 52
22:06
53 centers by NHL.com's definition have
22:10
50 points this season. So we need to
22:12
change what we think about is a topline
22:15
top six center. And Ziggress is one.
22:18
Ziggress just is one flat out. He's not
22:20
going to have the faceoffs. You don't
22:22
have to. You you have those those guys.
22:24
Couttori comes in. D'vorak comes in.
22:27
Glenn Denning comes in to take the
22:28
important draws and Zerris, you let him
22:31
run wild with his winners.
22:33
>> Could you also are you able to filter
22:35
that by five on five scoring? Cuz I bet
22:37
because the Flyers power play is so
22:39
atrocious, I bet Zerris is probably
22:41
pretty high on
22:42
>> uh even
22:44
strength points. Um Zegris has 44, which
22:48
is uh tied with Verhagy, not a center,
22:51
Sam Bennett, Anthony Celli, and Wyatt
22:54
Johnston uh for even strength points
22:56
there. 44. Why Johnston has 85 points
22:58
overall uh thanks to uh 41 power plays,
23:01
but uh
23:02
>> his power play goal scoring is crazy.
23:04
>> Yeah. But five on five, I mean hasn't
23:06
been the full season. I know Charlie
23:07
Oconor did a good breakdown split of the
23:10
center versus wing um last week for for
23:13
POI if you guys want to check that out.
23:15
But um yeah, like Zegris at this scoring
23:17
pace like we like, oh, do you want a 80
23:19
point winner or a 65 point center? like
23:22
a 65 point center might be more valuable
23:24
especially given the Flyers depth chart.
23:27
>> Yeah. And I think also worth noting,
23:28
knock on wood, he is on track to play
23:31
all 82 games after the injury concerns
23:33
from his time in
23:34
>> hopefully. Hopefully just 81. Hopefully
23:35
just 81.
23:37
>> You know what? Good point. And yeah,
23:39
hopefully just 81. Do you really think
23:41
they'd rest that many guys for game 82?
23:43
>> I mean, they wouldn't be able to rest
23:44
that many guys, but like maybe Rebankin
23:47
would be healthy enough to get back in.
23:48
You get Grunstrom. You get Grunstrom
23:50
back in. Yeah, the Gbankin situation has
23:52
been interesting because at first he was
23:54
a healthy scratch, then I think they
23:56
said he got sick or something and now
23:58
he's been missing for for a week or two.
24:01
>> Yeah.
24:02
>> Yeah, he was injured there. Um
24:04
>> maybe maybe we get to see Carl
24:06
Grundstrom at center again. That was a
24:07
fun experiment.
24:08
>> Maybe you see him maybe see him at wing
24:10
and you get you get Urac and Joel in
24:12
there. Um yeah, I imagine they would
24:14
like Kaknney's clearly beat up. Um he's
24:18
got to he's got to come up big. But
24:19
yeah, they'll they'll have to bench a
24:21
few guys. They have to they'll have to
24:22
play a few guys because they can't
24:23
really
24:24
>> call up a bunch of guys. But yeah,
24:26
>> we're getting ahead of ourselves here.
24:27
We're getting ahead of ourselves.
24:28
>> We'll cross that bridge when we get to
24:29
it. We can we can worry about that uh on
24:32
on Tuesday.
24:35
Uh but I did want to give give credit to
24:37
Sean Couttori, my guy, you know, going
24:39
down going down to the fourth line.
24:41
>> He could have sulked. He could have been
24:42
like, "All right, what is this [ __ ]
24:43
Why am I playing fourth line? I'm the
24:45
captain. I should at least be, you know,
24:47
second third line playing with Kates in
24:49
a hybrid role. We tried that before, but
24:51
no, going to the fourth line, workman's
24:53
attitude, getting his getting his lunch
24:55
pail and going to work with Luke Glenn
24:57
Denning. And that has been a uh a
25:00
fantastic fourth line. argue like by my
25:03
for my money definitely biased a bit
25:04
with my orange tinted glasses but what
25:07
like you look at them one of the best
25:08
fourth lines in hockey I think just
25:09
given not going to make mistakes great
25:12
defensively make the right choice every
25:14
time and and Couttoriier broke out the
25:17
hands in Winnipeg what what a what a
25:19
goal there uh to to to cherry on top of
25:21
that game
25:22
>> and he's been physical too he's been
25:24
laying a lot more hits lately I like
25:27
he's been a wrecking ball and
25:30
>> man Like the last time we were talking
25:32
it was like, "Oh man, maybe they do have
25:34
to buy him out this summer. It might
25:36
actually be we might actually have to
25:37
have a conversation about this." Nah.
25:39
Nah, I don't care. If he's in this
25:41
hybrid role on the fourth line, if he's
25:43
going Rick Tocket will play him in the
25:45
lineup. Zeus got uh banged up in a game
25:47
against uh crap, who was
25:49
>> Islanders, I believe. Islanders took
25:51
that big hit. Yeah.
25:52
>> And uh he only played like two or three
25:55
more shifts that game. Not not a lot.
25:57
Coots stepped up, played a huge number
25:59
of minutes, and didn't look out of
26:01
place. We They will never load manage
26:04
their captain, but if you play them on
26:08
the fourth line and the rest of your top
26:10
nine is going, you don't need to you
26:12
don't need to overleverage him, it's
26:15
it's a pretty good situation. And if
26:17
we're talking about veterans, I also
26:19
want to shout out Travis Sanheim. Set a
26:20
new career high in goals with 11. Uh he
26:24
has not reached his career high of 44
26:26
points. he's at 37, but it's worth
26:28
mentioning that in that season that he
26:30
had 44 points, he was a minus 20. Uh
26:33
this season, he is plus 13. Not like the
26:36
most important stat, but that's a pretty
26:38
good uh pretty good uh pretty good
26:42
season from the alternate captain,
26:43
Travis Sanheim.
26:44
>> Yeah. And in that season, I imagine he
26:47
played a lot more power play. Only five
26:48
assists on the power play. No power play
26:50
goals. uh this season, one power play
26:52
goal, two power play assists. But yeah,
26:55
2413 a night for Sanheim, playing big uh
26:58
two-way two-way game there. Played at
27:01
team Canada. Like he he's he's a he's a
27:03
top pair defenseman. He's not a Norris
27:05
Trophy caliber Rasmus Darlene Moider
27:09
type of guy. But you want a 1D, this is
27:11
a 1D. It's not that like generational
27:14
defenseman like a headman that you look
27:16
at Dom Luces and it's like what do you
27:18
need to build a Stanley Cup contender,
27:20
but he's he he's that he's that second
27:22
guy on the top pair or the or the top
27:24
guy on the second pair that can that can
27:26
hold his own. And yeah, he's really been
27:29
an unsung hero over the past few few
27:31
years. Shout out Tory Krug for uh for uh
27:34
go for for getting that no no move no
27:36
trade clause and uh invoking it there a
27:39
few years ago. What would this team look
27:42
like
27:44
if Travis Sanheim had been traded in
27:47
that moment?
27:48
>> There's so many different dominoes
27:49
because like the Flyers probably are a
27:51
much worse team that next year because
27:53
that was before the almost playoff year.
27:56
So they probably just completely tank
27:59
that year, get different It's a
28:00
completely different different timeline
28:02
we're in.
28:03
>> Yeah. Um, I mean, maybe they would have
28:06
had a better shot of Mlin Cabbrini, but
28:08
like, you know, this is uh I'm pretty
28:11
happy with Porter Martone. Let's be
28:12
real, that's a pretty good consolation
28:14
prize.
28:15
>> Yeah. Poor h poor the the excitement of
28:17
just watching Porter Martone like it's
28:19
like every shift he does something like
28:21
the the plays off the wall to lead to
28:23
like twoon- ons. The it's just it's just
28:26
amazing. Like Meechov has been fun to
28:29
watch as well obviously but like when
28:31
Meechov's struggling defense isn't isn't
28:33
his game like but Martone Martone will
28:35
back check he'll get physical so there's
28:38
more that the casual watchers the eye
28:41
test can see but Mitkov still I think
28:44
has just as much top end skill as Mart
28:47
>> and 94 is a good number for him like it
28:50
looks good on him the Ryan Ellis number
28:53
what you're the better historian are
28:55
there any other flyers you've worn 4
28:57
before
28:58
>> Ryan Ellis.
28:59
>> I think it's Ryan Ellis. Uh I got hockey
29:02
reference up right here real quick.
29:04
There have been uh two players. No, just
29:07
Ryan Ellis and Porter Martone. So, uh
29:09
what a number there. He's got to stick
29:10
with 94, right? He I think he wore 94 at
29:12
Michigan State.
29:14
>> No, he wore 22, which is
29:16
>> 22.
29:16
>> Rick Takett's number.
29:18
>> Rick Taketta's number. Christian
29:19
D'vorak's number. That might be in the
29:20
rafters after after five more years. I
29:23
mean, at this rate, um, I also think,
29:27
uh, with co, I don't know this for sure,
29:29
but in the NCAA, they don't do high
29:31
numbers. Like, they're pretty
29:34
>> like they're kept low.
29:36
>> Um, so I imagine 22 was the best option.
29:40
And I I I would love someone to ask him
29:42
like, yo, were you 22 at Michigan State
29:44
because that was Takett's number and you
29:47
tried the brown nose a little bit.
29:50
I I still can't believe we got Martone
29:52
Martone at at five or six, five, what
29:54
whatever he was. Six. Yeah, he he should
29:56
have been a top three top three pick and
29:58
he is showing why. I'm uh I'm excited to
30:00
see what FanDuel will have as his caller
30:02
odds for next year because if he was up
30:04
here for the full season, he'd give
30:06
Matthew Schaefer a good run for his
30:07
money. Like Schaefer
30:09
>> Schaefer has been a slam dunk since like
30:11
January. Marone's a point per game
30:13
player. Like if Martone had 75 points
30:17
this year, if let me let me see. Let me
30:19
let me make sure I'm not completely
30:20
talking out of my ass. Uh, dumb it off.
30:22
60 62 points.
30:26
>> Uh, good comment here from Mr. Bone.
30:28
Thanks. Shout out Mr. Bone in the chat.
30:29
Martell wore number 22 because his dad
30:31
wore number two. So, the more you know
30:33
there, we appreci appreciate their uh
30:35
the Bonester.
30:36
>> Happy coincidence then that it also
30:38
happened to be Rick Tuckets. But, uh,
30:40
>> I I think Marton's success now is a
30:44
product of his college season. like I
30:46
don't know if he would have stepped into
30:48
the league and been this dominant out
30:49
the gate. Um especially over 82 games
30:54
like you know we could go back and forth
30:56
on that all day. There's no way to know
30:57
but I do think his
31:00
>> it it's an important foundation to have
31:02
lain.
31:03
>> It it it absolutely is because like you
31:05
read the stories on him few different
31:07
people have have done deep dives on him.
31:09
He's like all right yeah I go into the
31:10
weight room how many times a week I I
31:12
work on these things that I have to work
31:14
on. So, like the NCAA is going to become
31:17
the path for top prospects, I think, cuz
31:19
like instead of playing so many games in
31:21
the OLO where like especially now
31:24
growing up as a teenager, as even like
31:26
9, 10, 11 year old, you're on these
31:28
select teams that play year round in
31:30
tournaments no matter what. Like you're
31:32
playing a bunch of hockey. So going to
31:34
college where the seasons are shorter,
31:36
you get more workouts, you get more
31:39
foundational skills, like you said, like
31:41
I feel like that may have been a big
31:42
part as to why Jack Nesbet is going
31:44
there next year. like they could have
31:46
used the exception rule on him for the
31:48
19year-old to go to the Phantoms, but
31:52
like you see these top guys going to
31:54
college, they they get the experience,
31:56
they get the the the strength training
31:59
and yeah, you just see these guys go
32:02
from college to NHL and don't miss a
32:04
beat.
32:04
>> Different Michigan though. It's not the
32:06
same Michigan.
32:07
>> It's not the same Michigan. It's not the
32:09
same Michigan. No.
32:10
>> Well, I didn't know that at the
32:11
beginning of the year. I thought like,
32:12
oh, Michigan, there's only one of them.
32:14
And then it's like, no, there's
32:15
Michigan.
32:15
>> There's Michigan and there's Michigan
32:17
State or there's Michigan University.
32:20
>> And then there's Western Michigan.
32:21
That's a
32:22
>> Oh, the the Harvard of the Midwest, as
32:24
Keith Jones likes to remind us all.
32:27
>> Yes. And shout out shout out to the
32:29
Denver Pioneers for winning the NCA
32:31
Championship there. The uh the school of
32:33
Bobby Brink.
32:35
>> Yeah. Well, no longer a flyer, Bobby
32:38
Brink, but
32:39
>> forever in our hearts.
32:40
>> Yes. Yes. Uh any any other big picture
32:43
stuff you wanna you want to touch on
32:45
here before we kind of get into our our
32:46
whatifs for tonight and tomorrow?
32:50
>> Um
32:52
if if this summer they
32:55
>> Huh. Go ahead. Sorry.
32:57
>> I I was just going to say like this
32:59
summer if um if they don't land a major
33:03
trade,
33:05
I'm still not that I still think they'll
33:06
have a pretty good season next year.
33:08
Like I I think this forward group with
33:11
the depth of the wingers, the strength
33:13
that they have there, um and the pivot
33:16
that Takets's coaching has had since the
33:18
Olympic break, I think they can come
33:21
into next year pretty strong and
33:24
I'm already looking forward to it and
33:26
we're not even through this season yet.
33:28
No, I think that's a good point because
33:30
everyone like even if they make the
33:33
playoffs here, everyone's thinking like,
33:34
okay, you still got to go out have a big
33:36
off season, maybe move Risto for
33:38
something, maybe get a get maybe get a
33:40
top six center for this team. But as we
33:43
talk about it, as as I look at these
33:45
lines, it's like, okay, you have these
33:47
guys, you got another year of Lucenko
33:50
coming up, like, yeah, you ideally want
33:52
to get a game changer at center, but you
33:56
don't have to rush. Like, Danny Breier
33:58
can can do his classic, patient, wait
34:01
out the other GMs, hold true to his
34:03
pricing, and not have to panic too much,
34:06
which is which is the most important
34:07
thing. Like the most important thing is
34:09
just gaining leverage and using time as
34:12
an asset. And I think Brier now can do
34:15
that.
34:15
>> And I have I think I said in our last
34:17
pod like his patience has paid off so
34:19
many times. Like we can point to
34:21
multiple examples of Briier's patience
34:24
working out for the Flyers.
34:25
>> We were all kind of disappointed that he
34:27
didn't trade Risto at the deadline.
34:29
Rasmus Ristoan is playing on the top
34:31
pair of a team that's probably I
34:33
hopefully going to go to the playoff.
34:34
>> Play off Risto. Play off Risto points
34:36
away. might we might actually see
34:38
playoff ris. And uh I imagine his value
34:42
this summer will be way higher than it
34:43
would have been at the deadline. And uh
34:46
>> how about those Red Wings? Maybe they
34:48
should have tr like maybe they should
34:50
have ponyied up. Might have had a better
34:51
outcome. Uh and
34:54
>> last last thought before we move on to
34:56
tonight's game.
34:58
Steve Eisermanman's patience has been it
35:00
was smart from the beginning. It has now
35:03
become detrimental. I I think I think
35:05
now he's been too patient to the point
35:07
that it's it's a problem for the team. I
35:12
don't think Brier will make that same
35:15
mistake. I don't think he'll just keep
35:17
waiting and waiting and waiting and
35:19
sitting on his hands until it's too
35:20
late.
35:20
>> No. Yeah. I don't I don't even know if
35:22
Eerman was patient. Like I always [ __ ]
35:25
on him for the Andrew Cop contract, the
35:28
JT Confer contract, Ben Sherat.
35:31
>> Ben Sherro, Justin Hall, like
35:33
>> Michael Rasmmanson. Faulk now like all
35:35
these guys just these middling guys that
35:38
aren't going to be difference makers
35:39
once Dylan Larkin a a good player would
35:42
love to have him on my team but like
35:43
he's not the number one center that can
35:45
take you to a Stanley the cup final like
35:48
he's just not
35:49
>> I think if you had like Marton and Kknne
35:51
on his wings maybe but
35:53
>> I mean yeah Lucas Raymond's really good
35:56
de Brinka had 40 goals this year Patrick
35:58
Kane's turned back the clock like they
36:01
have enough role players it's just the
36:03
role players aren't good enough. Like
36:05
that they they settled for $5 million
36:07
for comfort, $5 million for comp. And
36:09
they're both 31 now. Uh goending didn't
36:13
really work out for them. They they ran
36:15
John Gibson into the ground. Camp Talbot
36:17
couldn't really hold up for them. But
36:19
yeah, it's
36:21
>> Would you rather have Christian De'vorak
36:23
on his current contract or JT Conffer or
36:25
Andrew Cop on theirs?
36:28
>> I don't know enough about Cop or Confer.
36:30
Um, but I guess I guess I'd rather see
36:34
the Flyers extend D'Vorak because the
36:35
D'vorak good in the room. They know him
36:37
already and whatnot. Um,
36:39
>> yeah, Cops still has one more year after
36:40
this. Confer has two. Um, they also have
36:44
modified no trade clauses. I don't know
36:45
how I don't know. I'm not in the weeds
36:47
enough about the Red Wings, but yeah.
36:49
Uh, one of your big stretches early in
36:50
the year was like, "Oh, what if the Red
36:52
Wings win the Atlantic this year?" And
36:53
now now they're now they're out of the
36:55
playoffs.
36:56
>> I was hoping you would forget that. I
36:58
can't believe
36:58
>> I could never. I could never.
37:01
Um, God, who is going to win the
37:03
Atlantic? It's still a coin toss. We
37:05
might not know till Wednesday.
37:06
>> Well, hopefully things happen tonight in
37:09
case the Flyers lose tonight. The
37:11
Canadians don't go all out tomorrow
37:13
because they have tomorrow is the
37:14
Canadians last game. They're currently
37:16
tied with the Sabres. If the Sabres win
37:19
tonight, I think Buffalo is playing
37:22
tonight. Um, yeah, Buffalo plays in
37:24
Chicago tonight. So, if they excuse me,
37:28
if they win, they uh the Canadians
37:31
cannot win the Atlantic because even if
37:33
they beat the Flyers, same number of
37:35
points, lose a tiebreaker. So,
37:37
>> okay,
37:37
>> Canadians hopefully don't have the top
37:40
seed to play for, but they're only two
37:43
points up on the Lightning who uh play I
37:45
think another bad team tonight.
37:46
Lightning Lightning host to Red Wings
37:48
tonight. So, um, Canadians might have
37:51
home ice to play for on Tuesday, but
37:54
hopefully that doesn't matter. Flyers
37:56
win and end tonight here against the
37:58
Hurricanes at the Exfinity Mobile Arena
38:00
in just over uh two hours here. And the
38:04
last two games have really shown the
38:07
highs and lows of the Flyers. and shown
38:09
how they're going to make the playoffs
38:11
and potentially advance or how they're
38:13
going to either miss the playoffs or get
38:15
eliminated early cuz the Red Wings game
38:18
great five on five horrible special
38:20
teams Dylan Larkin hat-tick Patrick Kane
38:23
three or four points more most side are
38:25
five points you give up a short-handed
38:27
goal you can't capitalize on a five on
38:29
three and you just lose that one 6-3
38:32
despite being the better team you played
38:34
good good pocket hockey at five on five
38:36
were the better team did the game in
38:38
Winnipeg. Three big penalty kills 0 for
38:41
two on the power play and you just get
38:43
contributions from the entire lineup.
38:45
Shantori hattrick watch. Um someone else
38:48
had two goals, right?
38:51
>> No, maybe not. Um Sanheim had a big
38:53
game. Orton had a goal.
38:56
>> Seer had his annual
38:58
>> Cer had had a snipe there. Three points
39:01
for Case, three points for Couttori.
39:03
Like everyone in that lineup really
39:05
contributed there. that and a good good
39:07
showing by by Ledar as well. Not a not a
39:09
ton of chances against, but he he
39:11
stepped up when he had to and like
39:13
>> uh he those were some high danger
39:15
chances from the Jets for like certain
39:17
spells there. They just couldn't keep
39:19
the puck out of their own net.
39:20
>> Mhm.
39:21
>> Yeah, Jets Jets were a bit dejected
39:24
after I think the Kings won earlier in
39:25
the day, so killed their playoff chances
39:27
a bit, but yeah, still a huge game for
39:30
the Flyers there.
39:31
um to talk about tonight's game. So,
39:34
they've got Brandon Busussy,
39:36
uh which again, phenomenal name,
39:39
incredible name. Uh he's been one of my
39:42
fantasy hockey stalwarts because he is
39:44
36 and one this season. Outstanding
39:48
record. But guess what? Minus.3 goals
39:51
saved above expected, 892 save
39:53
percentage, and a 2.52 GAAA. He is like
39:56
fully a product of the Kane system. Uh,
39:58
and a bunch of the Kane's best dudes,
40:00
they ain't playing tonight.
40:02
>> And, uh, over his last five games, Busy
40:05
has allowed 15 goals on 107 shots.
40:08
That's an 860 save percentage. Uh, and
40:10
the most shots he's seen in those five
40:12
games, 23 from Columbus and Toronto. And
40:15
in the other three games, he saw fewer
40:16
than 20. And against the Islanders, he
40:18
saw 13. So, like, this is not a dominant
40:23
goalie that could just blank the Flyers.
40:26
I mean, it's hockey. I mean, he could he
40:28
still could he still could
40:29
>> he could he could,
40:30
>> but he could.
40:32
>> But this is not this is not like I
40:35
shurken or something. This is a guy that
40:37
the Flyers if they get pucks on net,
40:39
they can beat him. He's not he's not a
40:42
wall. Um
40:43
>> No.
40:44
>> And I think that's a big reason money
40:45
puck has them at like over the Flyers at
40:47
like 51% favorite because
40:50
>> Oh, that's it. Kane's are resting guys
40:52
and uh you know
40:55
>> I think it should be more than yeah
40:56
still only 51.4 according to Money Puck.
40:58
I don't know if they factor in that
40:59
thing but yeah since the uh Olympic
41:01
break he's just gone completely
41:02
downhill. Uh but he has seven and three.
41:05
>> Yes.
41:05
>> 8468 percentage 3.5 goals against per
41:08
game there. So um the he was making
41:12
history early on quickest goalie to
41:14
however many wins but um I don't know
41:16
where he went for the Olympic break but
41:18
it was uh not good for his game there.
41:20
Well, I mean, that's just Carolina is
41:22
they control the shots to such a crazy
41:25
degree that nobody ever gets pucks on
41:26
their net. But if their guys are out of
41:28
the lineup, who's who's shooting the
41:30
puck for them?
41:31
>> Yeah, but that that could that that is a
41:33
double-edged sword because like you have
41:35
these young guys coming up that are
41:37
going to play their ass off in this one.
41:38
Like you're not going to get
41:39
>> True. You don't have Aaho or Stretchikov
41:42
who are going to like go in and maybe
41:44
not be play 100% if if like puck goes
41:47
into corners or something, but like you
41:49
got Nick Deloreier third line, William
41:50
Kerier is always going to be a pest out
41:52
there.
41:53
>> Yeah.
41:53
>> Bradley Nadau on the second line with
41:56
Nikolai Eers in [ __ ] You got a Skyler
41:59
Bindammore on the four on the fourth
42:00
line. No Gosbear, no Jacob Slavven, Sean
42:04
Walker still playing on the second pair.
42:06
It's like the fly. Walker has been
42:10
unbelievable for the last like month or
42:12
so. He's been so good for the Canes this
42:14
last like little while.
42:17
>> Yeah. So, like these guys could come out
42:20
and uh putting up a good fight against
42:21
the Flyers, but like the Flyers the
42:23
Flyers have to win this. The Flyers
42:25
cannot pull a Flyer at tonight and and
42:28
blow this and then have their backs up
42:30
against the wall against the Canadians
42:32
team that might have that will have
42:33
something to play for at least in terms
42:35
of seating on Tuesday. Um I haven't
42:39
confirmed the goalie. It is Lar. Okay.
42:42
Interesting. Uh
42:42
>> it is. Yes.
42:43
>> Yeah. Because people speculated it might
42:45
be Eri, you know, get Erison, see if he
42:47
can steal one against Carolina. But I
42:49
guess with the win-in scenario, you
42:52
could l then rest Lar tomorrow. Do you
42:54
go back to LAR tomorrow if they lose
42:56
tonight?
42:57
>> Oh,
42:58
>> well, here's the better question. If
43:00
they lose in overtime,
43:02
do you go back to LAR tomorrow? If they
43:06
lose in overtime, do you do a handshake
43:08
deal with the Canadians where you're
43:09
like, "All right, we go to overtime, we
43:11
both get a point, and we see what
43:12
happens there."
43:13
>> We'll let you win.
43:15
>> We'll let you win in overtime. Let us
43:16
get a point.
43:17
>> Uh I mean, that's probably the best
43:19
option. No. Uh
43:22
>> if the Flyers lose in regulation
43:24
tonight, I think I might consider going
43:26
back to Vadar,
43:28
>> but
43:28
>> I think I think you have to.
43:30
>> Erison has also been pretty good since
43:32
the Olympics. However, I don't know how
43:33
he'll hold up under that kind of game
43:36
pressure. What's his split with the
43:38
Canadians? Out of curiosity, do you have
43:39
an Esson split with the the Halves?
43:42
>> I mean, I got a hockey reference now.
43:44
His um career splits against the
43:46
Canadians. Uh two and three, 16 goals
43:50
allowed in fif in five games. Uh 85 save
43:53
percentage, 3.53 goals against there.
43:56
>> Sounds bad. Let's not do that.
43:58
>> It's not Let's not even have tomorrow's
44:00
game matter. I I I think I think that's
44:02
probably
44:02
>> I want to see I want to see her. I want
44:04
to see
44:05
>> I want to see her check too. Let's let's
44:06
get Dave a game. Yeah. Come on. Come on.
44:08
Come on. Hurricanes. Throw throw your a
44:10
bone.
44:11
>> Yeah. Be the be like a tropical
44:14
depression instead of a hurricane today.
44:15
You know,
44:16
>> speaking of uh throwing someone a bone.
44:18
You think uh I think think uh Nick
44:20
Deloreier gives uh Nikki Seals a little
44:22
little fight early on to get the crowd
44:24
going. Maybe maybe Haway. I don't know.
44:26
>> I was going to ask who's he gonna fight?
44:29
had to be Cer, right?
44:31
>> Or you said Hathaway, too.
44:33
>> Haway hasn't fought though. I don't know
44:34
if he has like some nagging injuries. I
44:36
don't know if he's worried about being a
44:38
father now and doesn't want to injure
44:39
himself, but like Nikki Seals, he he
44:41
fought him when uh Deloreier was in
44:43
Minnesota. So, I wonder wonder if they
44:45
go for it.
44:47
>> I
44:50
Yeah, I feel like that's the only real
44:53
option unless Dan Var just loses his
44:56
[ __ ] and is like, get over here.
44:59
I mean the the thing is though Nick
45:00
Delore does not lose fights. You you you
45:03
either try to tie you you go you try to
45:05
go to overtime against Nick Deloreier or
45:07
you lose. Like you you don't beat Nick
45:09
Delore in a fight. So like
45:10
>> just hit the ice. Hit the ice. Call it
45:13
quiz.
45:13
>> It's like swing a few times and just
45:15
turtle and like you'll get the crowd
45:16
going going against Nick Delore. But
45:18
>> my my favorite Nick Deloreier moment
45:21
from this year was against the Rangers.
45:23
He came up and like kind of
45:24
cross-checked one Brennan Hoffman. And
45:27
then Hoffman without even looking to see
45:30
who cross-ch checked him throws the
45:32
gloves down, turns around, realizes it's
45:34
Nick Nick Deloreier. And in the slow
45:36
motion video, you could see his face
45:38
immediately go, "Oh, fuck." Like, he had
45:42
completely no idea who he had just
45:44
picked a fight with. And that was an
45:46
incredible incredible Nicolore moment.
45:48
Yeah, that that was probably the best
45:49
moment of the season for Nicolore, which
45:51
is just saying a lot about Nicolier's
45:53
season um in in Philadelphia here. Yeah,
45:57
but I I I'm still worried about special
45:59
teams a little bit. Um
46:02
>> the power play has been looking looking
46:03
visually better to to steal to steal a
46:06
phrase there, but like
46:08
>> I don't think Noah Kates belongs on the
46:09
power play second power play unit. Like
46:11
get him out there to win a faceoff and
46:12
then I don't know. I don't know who else
46:14
deserves to be there, but like
46:16
>> that's Yeah. Who else would nitpicking?
46:19
It's completely nitpicking. Um, yeah,
46:21
good Kate's there in the middle.
46:23
>> He's He's leading the team in scoring
46:25
since the Olympics. You want to take him
46:27
off the second power play unit?
46:29
>> That's true. That's true. He has been He
46:30
has been fantastic.
46:32
>> He's also better in I think he's also
46:33
like 48% in the faceoff circle since the
46:36
Olympics or he's he's gotten better at
46:39
it over the last like month and a half,
46:40
which is
46:42
>> weird.
46:43
>> Yeah. Oh, I've been meaning to ask. Uh,
46:45
this is our first time talking since you
46:46
and Ryan Quigley went to uh went to
46:49
Porter Marone's debut against the Red
46:51
Wings. You were you were all the way up
46:53
all you were all the way up in the
46:54
Raptors there. Uh, how'd you like how
46:56
like atmosphere? I know we talked about
46:58
a bit, but uh what were your takeaways
47:01
from from the game?
47:02
>> The atmosphere.
47:03
>> I mean, it was a lot of
47:04
>> You went to one You went to one like a
47:06
month before, but the Flyers looked like
47:08
they were out of it, right? Yeah, they
47:10
beat the Capitals in that first one and
47:12
I had expected that to be just a loss
47:14
for the Flyers, but that was a great
47:16
game. Um, no, the Red Wings one was
47:19
frustrating cuz they score that goal to
47:21
pull within one and then nobody even
47:24
realized that the Red Wings scored on
47:26
the next shift cuz their arena was still
47:28
rocking from the Flyers goal. It was the
47:30
most
47:32
deflating thing I could imagine. Um, but
47:36
people were stoked to see Martone there.
47:37
I mean,
47:39
>> there the place was rocking. Uh
47:43
I Yeah. I mean, it's a bummer they lost,
47:45
but hey,
47:48
whatever. You were there.
47:49
>> I was there. I was there uh behind the
47:51
net. And then I I I I forgot to tell you
47:54
guys this. I was too too lost in the in
47:55
the hoopla of it. But I um we won the
47:58
Flyers Ice Row upgrade. So, we went to
48:01
Ticket Center. No way. Got Ice Row, free
48:04
drinks and stuff. It was It was
48:05
fantastic. So yeah, I was I was hoping
48:07
that would uh be a win. So very
48:09
disappointing, but I mean at least I had
48:10
a a few adult beverages in me there for
48:13
phrase. That was
48:14
>> and at the glass.
48:15
>> At the glass. Yeah, at the glass.
48:17
>> What did we How did we miss that? They
48:19
usually put it up on like the jumbotron.
48:21
>> They haven't recently. They haven't
48:22
recently.
48:23
>> Oh, okay. Are you going tonight?
48:24
>> I am going tonight. I I uh smartly I
48:27
bought my tickets on Saturday which uh
48:29
included parking so I was able to sell
48:31
that cuz I walked to the game and now
48:33
the tickets that I bought are selling
48:35
for like double the price because like
48:36
tonight is tonight is the game. And of
48:39
course the Flyers have the the orange
48:41
out tomorrow which hopefully is a
48:43
meaningless game. So um it'll be an
48:45
orange out orange out tonight there
48:47
though down there. And there I was going
48:51
to say about the orange out on blue sky
48:53
flyers goals scored by posted like yo
48:56
give us some shirts just brick by brick
48:58
sponsored by mab paints or something
49:00
like that and I'm like nah they got to
49:02
get a shirt that says brricked up like
49:04
an orange shirt that just says bricked
49:06
up.
49:07
>> Uh I think that would do incredible
49:08
numbers. I think that would just go and
49:11
I think everybody would eat that up.
49:14
>> Yeah, it would be it would be so good to
49:16
to to have t-shirts. Like come on you
49:17
you had all weekend. you can get to go
49:19
to a local shop, print out print out I
49:21
mean 10,000 t-shirts is a lot, but like
49:23
yeah, they'll get they'll get they'll
49:25
get something something going. And I I
49:27
just want to say here la last podcast
49:29
before
49:30
>> um these two important games like the
49:32
Flyers right now have a chance to show
49:35
everybody, remind everybody that
49:37
Philadelphia is a hockey city.
49:39
>> Eagles is always first. Phillies take
49:41
over the city. Sixers do sometimes as
49:43
well. But when the Flyers are in the
49:45
playoffs, Joe, there's nothing like it.
49:48
like you've seen it in in in the fall
49:50
with the Phillies, everyone having good
49:51
vibes, but the Flyers, especially being
49:55
us being so close to the team. I haven't
49:57
been in Philly. I've been in South
49:58
Jersey for past playoff friends. I have
50:00
not been in Philly for playoff friends,
50:02
but like when the Flyers are in the
50:04
playoffs, it's just bleeding orange. The
50:06
whole city comes together again. And
50:08
like it's the perfect possibility here.
50:11
Flyers Penguins one last time.
50:14
Malcolin's last ride. Honestly, either
50:16
way, it's a good story. Hopefully, the
50:18
Flyers, you know, they get that that
50:20
that youth injection like they had in
50:22
2010 with Marton, with Forester, these
50:25
young guys, and get it going here. But
50:26
like, if this team makes the playoffs,
50:30
even if it is just two or three home
50:32
games, like it is going to be absolutely
50:34
rocking, and it's going to show
50:36
everybody why it's a hockey town, which
50:39
only helps the Flyers moving forward for
50:41
players wanting to come here, players
50:42
wanting to stay here. Like that's why
50:45
these games tonight's not even a playoff
50:46
game, but that's why these games matter
50:48
so much and why these past few weeks and
50:51
months have mattered so much because
50:53
anything can change in a 10 20 game span
50:56
as we've seen that. And like
50:58
Philadelphia is is a hockey city. It
51:00
always has been. It's just been laying
51:02
dormant because the Flyers have been uh
51:04
having their curses over the past few
51:06
decades here. But like y
51:08
>> win tonight and it is it's going to be
51:11
rocking. I mean, the past few weeks,
51:13
I've even seen more like Flyers shirts
51:15
and Flyers hats on on Passerby.
51:18
>> Mhm.
51:19
>> And like two weeks ago, I was walking
51:21
back from the grocery store and I had my
51:22
Flyers hoodie on, bright orange number,
51:26
like really hard to miss. And I'm
51:28
walking by the community center near my
51:29
house, my apartment, and um these kids
51:32
are playing baseball in the lot. And one
51:34
of them's wearing a Flyers hoodie, and
51:36
he sees me walking by and he goes, "Hey,
51:37
go Flyers." And I'm like, "This is fun.
51:41
This is This feels good. This is nice to
51:43
finally have people recognizing that the
51:46
Flyers are
51:48
They're back. The Flyers are back. The
51:50
Flyers are back.
51:51
>> The Flyer The Flyers are back. Yes. And
51:54
uh I think that's probably a good spot
51:56
to end it. The Flyers are back. Um if
51:58
you're listening to this on Tuesday or
52:00
Wednesday and the Flyers lost both
52:01
games, they're not back, but it's gonna
52:03
be Let's just go Let's just walk through
52:05
it, Joe. They lose tonight. They lose
52:08
tomorrow. Flyers don't make the
52:10
playoffs. How long How long are you
52:13
>> Well, and then Blue Jackets win, so the
52:15
Flyers don't make the playoffs. Whatever
52:16
has to happen.
52:17
>> Yeah, whatever.
52:18
>> How long are you angry or upset or
52:20
disappointed for before turning the page
52:23
to be like, "Oh [ __ ] we got Porter
52:25
Marone. We have Meech Golf after a full
52:27
off season. We have we have all this
52:28
stuff to look forward to." Like, is it a
52:31
week? Is it a few weeks? Like,
52:34
>> I think it'll take until the Penguins
52:35
get eliminated from the playoffs.
52:38
Yeah. So hope hopefully early on and
52:41
then als
52:42
>> alternatively if the Flyers do win
52:45
tonight or or get two points this next
52:47
two games somehow this team is playing
52:50
its best hockey at the right time and
52:52
they can absolutely they can absolutely
52:54
take down the Penguins in the first
52:56
round.
52:56
>> Yeah. And it's the right kind of hockey
52:59
too. Like this is defensive hockey that
53:02
uh succeeds in the playoffs. And I also,
53:04
just a fun stat, since March 15th,
53:06
Philadelphia ranks fifth in the league
53:08
with 3.64 goals per game. They are
53:11
scoring at a pretty prolific rate. Um,
53:15
>> yeah,
53:16
>> they're coming in hot. The Penguins,
53:18
look, I don't I will never count out
53:20
Crosby or Malin in the playoffs. Like,
53:23
you can't And I know Latang has been
53:24
garbage this year, but
53:26
>> maybe he finds it in in the playoffs.
53:28
And we've seen Steuart Skinner go on
53:30
runs with the Oilers. uh future flyer by
53:33
the way. Um
53:35
but their depth is not nearly as good
53:38
and I think the Flyers I think it'd be a
53:40
pretty like Penguins would be slight
53:42
favorites but it'd be pretty close
53:45
pretty close coin toss.
53:47
>> Yeah, it it'd be it'd be a it'd be great
53:50
for the NHL. It'd be great for hockey
53:51
and it' be it' be a fantastic series.
53:53
Fantastic series.
53:54
>> How about score predictions one last
53:56
time for these uh two games we got
53:58
>> for tonight? Um,
54:01
I I don't I don't want 4-1 win. 4-1 win
54:05
tonight um against the Hurricanes and
54:07
then tomorrow a 4-2 loss, but it's not
54:10
going to matter.
54:11
>> I'm saying 4-2 4-2 regulation win
54:14
tonight obviously because it's two goal
54:17
difference, but
54:18
>> um and then tomorrow I think overtime
54:22
loss. I think it'll be like a 4-3
54:24
overtime loss.
54:25
>> That'll be a perfect way to end the
54:27
season. Someone turns turns the puck
54:28
over at the blue line and uh Kallfield
54:32
Cam York turns the puck over at the blue
54:33
line. Kallfield scores in overtime
54:35
>> and he scores to win the Rocket Rashard.
54:38
>> Oh, can he even do that? I feel like
54:40
there's a few goals.
54:41
>> He's one goal behind McKinnon. I think
54:42
>> there's only one goal behind McKinnon.
54:44
Yeah, that's that that that could be
54:45
good. That could be good.
54:46
>> ABS have more three games left though. I
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think today, tomorrow, and Thursday. So,
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they have
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>> Yeah, he'll get McKinnon will get an
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empty net or he's an empty net merchant
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over there in Colorado. Damn.
54:57
>> He has like six six empty net goals and
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I don't think Cole Cfield has one in his
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career. Like he's
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>> he has zero this season.
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>> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> I mean that's the Mechov treatment I
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guess. Although Mishkov Mechov has FG
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net goals.
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>> Yeah. And he had a chance at one last
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year but he he hit the post when he
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>> the hattick. That was
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>> That was awful. That was awful.
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>> Damn, dude. Tough look.
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>> Um All right. That is going to do it for
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people find you?
55:42
>> You can find me like nervously posting
55:45
on Blue Sky, JFDarini. Sky.social.
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>> Uh yeah, you can follow me. You can
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