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Steve sits down with Fran from Flyers Goal Scored By to talk about the history of the rivalry between the Philadelphia Flyers and Pittsburgh Penguins. The guys break down the previous matchups between these Pennsylvania foes, including their favorite moments and most hated Penguins.
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Hey everybody. How's it going? Well,
0:03
guess what? We we've been talking so
0:05
much about these new Flyers, right? I
0:07
feel like we need to talk about the
0:10
history of the Flyers-Penguins rivalry.
0:12
We really need to get into the
0:14
nitty-gritty and I'm of course Steve
0:16
Jaco hosting Fly Perreault over here on
0:18
Broad Street Hockey. You see me a bunch
0:21
on the PHLY Flyers podcast and the guys
0:24
I record with on Broad Street Hockey are
0:25
all too young. They're too new. They're
0:27
too fresh-faced. They don't know the
0:29
history behind this hate over here. So I
0:32
had to get one of the Twitter the Flyers
0:34
Twitter OGs over here to join me today.
0:37
Fran from Flyers Goal Scored by a Guy.
0:39
I've been talking to I mean over a
0:41
decade about the Flyers at this point.
0:43
Over a decade of misery.
0:45
Yeah, do you remember the True Detective
0:47
meme of Matthew McConaughey when he's
0:49
all like fully alcoholic ripping butt?
0:52
That's is that me of Flyers fandom? Time
0:56
is a flat circle, Steve. We're back
0:57
here. Flyers-Penguins back in the
1:00
playoffs. Here we go. That makes me
1:02
Woody Harrelson if that's the case.
1:03
>> Oh, there we go. That's very apt. So
1:05
thanks for having me, Steve. It's so
1:06
cool to be talking to you again. Steve
1:09
and I used to blog when like Drew was a
1:12
rookie. And I'd go on his old uh
1:15
podcast. Shout out Flyers faithful all
1:17
about like
1:18
what is this rookie Giroux's minutes
1:21
going to look like in his first season?
1:22
So really good to be back. I can't
1:24
believe we're back here again. Oh my
1:26
god, here we go. Buckle in. Here we go.
1:28
I'm so excited about this and like I I I
1:30
haven't seen Fran a lot in the past few
1:32
years. We ran into each other at a Pearl
1:33
Jam concert a few months back and that
1:36
was so funny because it was like a
1:37
little mini Flyers reunion because it
1:39
was you, me, Kelly Hinkle was there and
1:42
uh Sarah Baker. So old school Flyers
1:44
Twitter I know, man.
1:46
I know. It's great and everyone's coming
1:48
out of the woodwork now, you know, like
1:50
it's been such a long time since we've
1:52
been in the playoffs. My phone's blowing
1:54
up with all these old friends and maybe
1:57
the number one hockey boy rankings maybe
1:59
get started up again on Saturday. Who
2:01
knows? Are we breaking that news on the
2:02
pod right now? Maybe. I mean
2:04
>> That would be fantastic. It's 2026, man.
2:08
Everything old is new again. Here we go.
2:10
And we got some good hockey boys to talk
2:12
about now. We got Matvei Michkov. We got
2:15
Olle Lycksell. We got Tyson Foerster. We
2:16
got some spice, man. I know, man. I got
2:20
a coworker I call Pittsburgh Steve. He's
2:22
a Penguins fan. He's also named Steve
2:24
and we're already talking trash to each
2:26
other. He's reminding me of the history
2:28
and I'm like
2:29
none of these guys have that on their
2:31
mind, okay? They're all too new and
2:33
stupid to know this. I know. It's such a
2:35
it's such a great
2:37
um I'm so excited for this series,
2:38
Steve, because it really feels like
2:41
we're playing with house money. All
2:42
these young players, we got to get them
2:44
exposed and show them what playoff
2:47
hockey is like. The the speed of it, the
2:51
the sort of animosity that builds, the
2:54
the percolating anger and hatred that
2:57
you get when you see a team for
2:59
hopefully four, five, six, maybe even
3:02
seven games in a row. It's just so great
3:05
to see this young core get exposed to it
3:07
so early. I don't Did anyone really
3:10
think we were heading to the playoffs,
3:11
you know, when it was like the Olympic
3:13
break? No way. We were all looking at
3:14
like Tankathon every single night. We
3:17
literally did that on PHLY after they
3:19
lost to the Rangers. Feels [laughter]
3:20
like That's great, yeah.
3:22
Started off, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I
3:25
can't disagree with that, but that's
3:27
what we're here to talk about today is
3:28
the hate because I think these guys What
3:30
I really like about this current group
3:33
is these are guys that inspire hate.
3:35
These are just agitators. These are
3:37
rats. I love these guys. Like Lycksell
3:40
is in World Juniors like patting guys on
3:43
the butt and like getting into fights
3:45
and not doing handshake lines. Like
3:47
Michkov routinely gets in guys' faces
3:50
and laughs it off.
3:51
Konecny's been a notorious rat since he
3:53
was a rookie and Zegras, who we didn't
3:56
even think was going to be that ratty,
3:58
has been like super ratty the whole
4:00
time.
4:01
>> Yeah. Zegras is sort of like a ratty
4:03
like Spicoli from Fast Times at
4:05
Ridgemont High. You know, like you like
4:07
for some reason he's like this like
4:09
stoner surfer on the ice then he's just
4:12
like also like getting under everybody's
4:14
skin. It's great. The one thing I think
4:16
we're missing on this Flyers team is
4:19
like a ratty defenseman. You know, like
4:22
Ristolainen for his size and sort of his
4:25
like sort of like Ivan Drago like
4:28
appearance. Like he should be a little
4:30
bit more like getting up and mucking
4:34
throwing his stinky glove in the way.
4:36
But he doesn't do that that much. He
4:37
seems like almost like a pacifist in a
4:39
way. So I think we're missing like a
4:41
ratty blue line player. Something for
4:43
Briere to work on in the off season.
4:44
Let's just A
4:45
Chris Pronger type if you will because
4:48
>> Exactly. Yeah. The last time the Flyers
4:50
got into the Cup final, it was Chris
4:52
Pronger who was just being a jerk the
4:54
whole time. To this day still claims
4:57
that he stole the winning puck and threw
4:58
it in the trash. I don't know, man.
5:01
And it was great like you remember those
5:03
early Crosby
5:05
playoff series and it was like Derian
5:08
Hatcher just bodying Crosby into the
5:11
into the corner boards repeatedly and
5:14
the place was just going nuts. And like
5:16
Hatcher, you know, like he's on one leg
5:18
at that point in his career. Obviously
5:20
we know how everything turned out, but
5:21
it was like it was just such a great
5:25
opportunity for us to like sort of like
5:27
just like twist that screw into Crosby
5:31
early on. It's awesome. Total welcome to
5:33
Philadelphia. Welcome to the NHL moment
5:36
for Crosby right there. And Hatcher is
5:38
just one of the you know, if if you are
5:40
one of those younger fans, number one,
5:41
welcome aboard. Welcome to playoff
5:42
hockey. It's get to the game if you can.
5:45
It's the best. It's the Even when they
5:46
lose, it's the best because it's all
5:49
heightened so much. It's just
5:51
ridiculous. But man, like Hatcher was
5:54
one of the nastiest players I've ever
5:56
seen. Like he almost killed Jeremy
5:57
Roenick. Like
5:59
just a big physical bruiser throw throw
6:02
those bows around.
6:04
>> in an era where speed wasn't that
6:06
important, you know, it wasn't like we
6:08
had these like little like Cole
6:09
Caufields running around skating circles
6:11
around everyone. Hatcher was just like
6:13
this wrecking ball. Like these slow guys
6:15
would just get lined up by Hatcher. Even
6:18
Ratje, remember Mike Ratje just like I
6:21
think it was like a Hatcher-Ratje
6:24
uh combo at one point in time. Maybe for
6:27
that like
6:28
>> combination. Good lord. Yeah, dude. It
6:30
was a little it was like the quick
6:32
creed, you know? I think that might have
6:33
been like '06-'07 or '07-'08. I can't
6:37
really reco- I it was around that area.
6:39
Yeah.
6:39
>> Yeah. Yeah. But like Ristolainen could
6:41
skate circles around these guys and
6:43
Ristolainen ain't fast. So that's So put
6:46
that in perspective. Yeah. [laughter]
6:48
>> But yeah, this So this is the seventh
6:49
meeting between the Penguins and the
6:51
Flyers.
6:52
1988-89, the Patrick Division final.
6:55
That's when divisions had proper names
6:57
back then.
6:58
>> That was when men were men.
7:00
Men were men.
7:01
>> [laughter]
7:02
>> Flyers I don't remember this one. I was
7:04
I'm an old guy, but I'm not that old
7:06
that I remember this one.
7:08
Flyers won that one 4-3. Tim Kerr had 15
7:11
points in that series.
7:13
>> It's totally insane. One of the just
7:14
all-time underrated players in NHL
7:17
history. Just one of the ridiculous
7:19
player he was. And I just needed to
7:21
shout out Zarley Zalapski played in that
7:24
series and had the second most points
7:25
for the Penguins. All-time NHL name
7:27
right there. Just an all-time name. Not
7:29
even NHL. It transcends the National
7:31
Hockey League. The Zarley Zalapski, you
7:33
toss that out at any barbecue, any round
7:36
of quizzo, any job interview. You toss
7:39
out Zarley Zalapski in a job interview,
7:41
you're getting it. You're locking in. I
7:43
mean, listen to this podcast for more
7:44
business and uh you know, hiring tips. I
7:47
think that's what we're going to we're
7:48
going to transition into business and
7:50
hiring [laughter]
7:50
and change the hockey talk. Yeah, yeah,
7:53
sure. Why not? Yeah. I'm in all the way.
7:55
We're like All Birds. We're you know,
7:57
we're it's not a shoe company anymore,
7:59
you know, like now we're pivoting
8:01
towards uh LinkedIn posts on Broad
8:03
Street Hockey.
8:04
That's the way to do it. Exactly. And
8:06
it's Come on. It all makes sense.
8:09
>> Tim Kerr though was a little bit before
8:11
my time. I did you know, and admittedly.
8:14
And I agree like Kerr was always on
8:17
these teams where
8:19
there was like a little bit more star
8:22
power around him. You know, like I think
8:24
like Propp and Howe would always sort of
8:27
in that like late '80s, very early '90s
8:30
era, Tim was like more like the diehard
8:33
Flyers favorite player. Maybe not the
8:36
guy that like was, you know, filling up
8:38
filling up like the Inquirer box score
8:42
every single night. Yeah, absolutely.
8:44
And every time I hear an old head talk
8:45
about like why they lost the '87 Cup
8:48
final, it was because Tim Kerr got hurt.
8:50
That's what they would always say.
8:51
>> Yeah. And we're going to get to some
8:53
lines where we say if this had happened
8:56
Oh god, yeah, I know. This is going to
8:58
be more like a therapy session, I think,
9:00
than like an actual preview, but let's
9:02
I'm in for it, Steve. I'm hoping we can
9:04
purge some ghosts of the past this year
9:06
because
9:07
there's a lot of ghosts we're going to
9:08
see.
9:09
>> [laughter]
9:10
>> Weirdly, of all the things when the
9:12
Penguins had Mario Lemieux, they never
9:15
really beat the Flyers with Lemieux.
9:17
Lemieux was 23 years old in the series.
9:19
Had 14 points in seven games played. I
9:22
would say, you know, most people you
9:23
talk to that watched Lemieux always say
9:25
like, "Okay, Gretzky has all the
9:27
numbers, but Lemieux's the best player
9:29
I've ever seen."
9:29
>> Right. Right.
9:30
>> And the fact that he I don't think he
9:32
beat the Flyers in a series is
9:35
ridiculous to talk about. Yeah. I my my
9:38
earliest memory of Lemieux um was that
9:41
'96-'97.
9:43
I think it was the quarterfinals where
9:45
they played and like That's a perfect
9:48
transition.
9:49
>> this was like Lindros era. This was like
9:52
peak Lindros-LeClair
9:54
Legion of Doom. JΓ‘gr was like that ratty
9:58
guy. You know, he wasn't like the
10:00
beloved JΓ‘gr at that time. We hated
10:03
>> in Pittsburgh. We hated him. We hated
10:05
JΓ‘gr. And I remember Lemieux was like
10:09
right around that time where he um
10:11
was I think he had to retire for the the
10:13
Hodgkin's treatment. And I was in the
10:16
crowd when we stood up and like cheered
10:19
for him. And I was a wee young lad. I
10:21
was a little I was a little [laughter]
10:22
friend. I was a little lad. But like
10:25
moment like legitimately stuck with me
10:27
my whole life. Core memory. Core like
10:30
locked in Flyers memory. And it I always
10:33
think about that because every time
10:36
you know
10:37
it's common you know knowledge that like
10:40
Philly fans get a bad rap and we're
10:41
throwing snowballs and we're the worst
10:43
type of fans and we're rude. One of my
10:46
earliest sports memories is like
10:48
cheering for this guy who was like this
10:51
amazing player on a team we all hated.
10:53
And it like it's never it's never synced
10:55
up in my brain. You know, like many
10:57
things in my brain there's problems. But
10:59
like the the the the the animosity
11:02
towards Lemieux I never really felt
11:04
after that moment that like Philly
11:06
really like
11:08
had some sort of deep-seated hatred the
11:10
way we've grown
11:12
that around the Malkins and the Crosbys
11:15
and the Letangs. There was a respect
11:17
there and that always gets mentioned as
11:19
maybe like the classiest moment in
11:22
Philly sports history.
11:23
>> [laughter]
11:24
>> It's very funny cuz like right before I
11:25
came on here I saw a a clip from New
11:29
Heights the Kelce brothers podcast. They
11:30
had Troy Aikman on and Troy Aikman was
11:32
just talking about how brutal it was to
11:34
play in the Vet in the early 90s and
11:36
like getting x-rays after the game cuz
11:38
he thought he broke every bone in his
11:39
body. And you know, fans throwing
11:41
batteries and snowballs and all that
11:42
You know, it's I
11:45
So Lemieux to get that kind of treatment
11:47
considering how much we hate our rivals
11:49
is pretty amazing and just one of the
11:51
great all-time moments. And yeah, that
11:53
that 96-97 series the Flyers dominated.
11:55
They won 4-1. Lindros nine points in
11:58
five games played just Yeah. What a
12:00
boss. Those are like the those are the
12:03
series that you sort of wish had more
12:05
tape that like NBCSN could kind of like
12:08
hey, it's a it's a July and the Phillies
12:11
are traveling. Like
12:13
pop one of these games on and like
12:15
actually see when I think like the ice
12:17
was tilted in Philly's favor for a
12:19
couple of years especially around like
12:21
that that Lindros era. The Penguins were
12:24
around, but they were not like this
12:27
dominant force. It was actually like
12:29
like the early 90s where the Penguins
12:32
were really surging when the Flyers were
12:34
retooling and then by the late 90s early
12:37
2000s that was really
12:40
really dominant really heavily favored
12:42
in Philadelphia's manner. Yeah, the
12:44
Flyers had just I mean Lindros, Leclair
12:47
just what a great combination. Brendan
12:49
Morrow was awesome at that time. Joni
12:51
NiinimΓ€ki had five points in that series
12:53
right there.
12:54
I always remember Joni NiinimΓ€ki because
12:56
Gary Thorne could not pronounce his name
12:58
right.
12:58
>> [laughter]
12:59
>> NiinimΓ€ki? He would say Yeah, it sounded
13:01
it sounded like a Keebler elf cookie.
13:03
You know, like it didn't it wasn't even
13:05
really like
13:06
I don't think Dornoff knew his finish
13:08
all that all that well, you know, like
13:11
God God bless him. Yeah. He was just
13:13
having fun with Bill Clement who I think
13:14
we miss every day.
13:16
Yeah, absolutely. We do miss Clement,
13:18
but I I got to say they've really had a
13:20
great tradition because then it was
13:22
Jonesy and then it was of course Brian
13:25
Boucher who cracks me up all the time
13:27
now, too. Yeah, Boosh is great. I don't
13:29
know if you were watching a little bit
13:31
at like when he's a color guy on some of
13:33
the national broadcast, they have this
13:34
running bit about him enjoying ice cream
13:37
all the time. And then like they always
13:38
serve him ice cream. It's like I love
13:41
that. How cool is that to be like the
13:42
ice cream guy at your job. Like people
13:45
are just like uh Steve's here.
13:47
Is is anyone getting him the ice cream
13:49
today? I mean that'd be amazing. What a
13:51
perk.
13:51
>> That's my dream. That's my dream
13:53
literally. I I want to get Boucher and
13:56
John Kruk together and just Oh, yeah.
13:58
Yeah. food.
14:00
>> a podcast. Yeah, talk about a talk talk
14:02
about a blunt rotation, too. I mean like
14:04
there you go. It's a good blunt
14:05
rotation. I'm in on that blunt rotation.
14:07
And you know, John Kruk's got the strong
14:09
West Virginia stuff. Yeah, you bet.
14:11
Yeah, he's got he's got some of that
14:13
backwoods stuff that you know, you'll
14:15
I'll see you on Tuesday basically. Yeah,
14:17
exactly. Well, and then speaking of
14:19
Brian Boucher, we go to the 99-2000
14:21
Eastern Conference Finals which
14:23
This is my first big Flyers-Penguins
14:26
memory.
14:27
>> Right. Yeah, absolutely. The Flyers win
14:28
this 4-2. This is like Prism Was this
14:31
Prism still? I don't even know if this
14:33
is This might have been early NBCSN.
14:36
Yeah. Early Comcast SportsNet at the
14:38
time.
14:38
>> Yes, the CSN. You're right. The Ron
14:40
Burkle's. Yes, yeah, yeah. This is The
14:42
right Yes, Ron Burkle. Yes, the Hartman
14:44
and Burkle. Yeah, okay. I'm here now.
14:46
I'm back. I am back. I'm back here. And
14:49
then this was the series with the
14:51
the Primo like stops and and just rifles
14:54
that 5-OT goal. Just unbelievable. Still
14:58
remember
14:59
I I definitely fell asleep watching that
15:01
game. And I think I woke up
15:04
>> I think I woke up. I don't remember
15:06
watching the goal live. I remember
15:08
watching as much as I could and I like
15:11
admit that I don't think I was awake
15:13
when Primo finally ended it. It's
15:15
insane. It was the craziest game I've
15:17
ever seen. It is I think my number one
15:19
core Flyers memory. And I actually
15:22
weirdly have this game on DVD somewhere
15:24
in my house. But it it's they had this
15:27
great collection and it was like 10
15:28
greatest games in Flyers history. And
15:30
it's definitely not the 10 greatest
15:32
games in Flyers history.
15:33
>> Right. Right. Right. Because like most
15:35
>> overtimes at the time. Yeah. Yeah. And
15:38
then most of the overtime was so slow.
15:40
It was like a slog. There was not it
15:42
wasn't like high danger chances like
15:45
back and It was not back and forth. It
15:47
was really really slow. It was
15:49
monotonous. And then it really turned
15:51
into like a war of attrition. Like
15:53
weren't guys getting like IVs and pizzas
15:55
delivered into the locker room? I mean
15:57
there's some awesome stories I bet from
15:59
that night. Well, we talked to Boosh
16:01
like way back when and he was talking
16:03
about the pizzas. And we talked to
16:04
Primo, too. And he was talking about it.
16:05
It was great. Yeah. And that's what
16:07
makes the goal so great is that
16:10
everybody's so slow at that point. And
16:12
then all of a sudden Primo just comes
16:13
out with this freaking awesome move.
16:16
Gets this burst of energy. Does the best
16:18
move I've ever seen him do and maybe one
16:20
of the best Flyers center moves. And
16:22
just pulls the puck back and rifles it.
16:25
And I'm like I could go to sleep. This
16:27
is the greatest.
16:28
>> it's so funny, too, cuz if you figure
16:29
like the modern game there's so much
16:32
speed [snorts] that kind of comes out of
16:34
nowhere. You know, like on the
16:35
transition guys are starting and
16:37
stopping. And then here's Primo like
16:40
making this like move that like Connor
16:42
Bedard would be like toss it out on like
16:45
a Tuesday night in 2026 and you're like
16:47
where did that come from? Especially
16:49
you're right like this monotonous slog
16:53
of an overtime that eventually like
16:55
10 seconds of like this creativity out
16:58
of this guy's brain and like here we go.
17:00
We're going to bed. Good night, Jim
17:01
Kyte. Yeah, [snorts] exactly. And I
17:03
always have this great memory of the
17:05
next day cuz I was in high school for
17:06
this. Going to my locker and looking
17:09
over at another guy and we were both
17:10
exhausted and we kind of gave each other
17:12
>> Yeah, it's like you knew. a smile and a
17:13
nod. Hell yeah, brother. Yeah. Exactly.
17:16
Exactly. That was
17:17
>> [laughter]
17:17
>> awesome.
17:19
And That [snorts] was a that 2000 series
17:21
was also the time where I fell in love
17:26
with
17:27
the biggest one-hit wonder of the Flyers
17:29
maybe of all time.
17:31
Mr. Andy Delmore with his hat trick,
17:33
right? That was the that was the Andy
17:35
Delmore series, right? Oh my god. Five
17:37
goals in that series for Andy Delmore. I
17:40
got to say
17:40
>> Unbelievable.
17:41
I talked a lot of trash in like AOL chat
17:44
rooms about Brian Boucher and Andy
17:46
Delmore based on those series. I was
17:48
like Brian Boucher's going to be the
17:50
next great Flyers goaltender.
17:51
>> Oh, yeah. Everyone And Andy Delmore Yes,
17:54
Delmore's walking. He's an anchor on the
17:56
blue line. Do you think Delmore still
17:58
gets beers from that series? You think
18:02
if you're Andy Delmore running around
18:04
Philly, I don't know where he lives.
18:05
>> Depends on the bar. Depends on the bar.
18:06
>> Depends on the bar, but I bet if he
18:08
walks in kind of like named Oh, yeah,
18:10
Andy Delmore. I think he could still get
18:12
a frosty one. I would buy him many
18:14
frosty ones because that's
18:15
>> [laughter]
18:16
>> That series was awesome. And how often
18:18
how often do you see defensive
18:21
defensemen score hat tricks? Like it's
18:22
very rare especially in Philadelphia.
18:25
Yeah.
18:26
If only we knew what we were If only we
18:28
knew what we had with with Brian Boucher
18:31
and Andy Delmore because after that it
18:34
was like a long like wasn't it like it
18:37
was like pretty much like we were
18:38
getting pansted pretty much for the next
18:41
decade, you know.
18:42
>> would go the next couple years they'd
18:43
have a weird couple years where they
18:45
played like Ottawa and Buffalo and like
18:48
Yeah, remember those like
18:50
Yes, we like never faced the Penguins
18:52
like ever in that era. They wouldn't
18:55
face the Penguins until 2007-08. But
18:58
before we talk about that
19:01
we got to talk about the Penguins
19:03
goaltender in that series.
19:05
>> [laughter]
19:05
>> All-time great name.
19:07
I know who I know Tugnutt. Tugnutt,
19:11
baby. I mean listen.
19:12
>> What an unfortunate name. We don't like
19:15
Penguins No. here. We don't like
19:17
Penguins fans here.
19:19
But you know, if you were a Penguins
19:21
fan, you got to get a Tugnutt jersey.
19:23
I'm sorry, man. Like how do you That is
19:25
number one A tier Tugnutt for life, man.
19:30
You got to get a Tugnutt jersey. Come
19:31
on. And like somebody's got to make a
19:33
tug on deez nuts kind of shirt right
19:34
there.
19:35
Like it's got to happen. 941 save
19:38
percentage in that series by the way. Oh
19:40
my gosh. That's pretty wild, right? Like
19:42
can you imagine 941 and
19:44
from a Tuggy?
19:46
No, from the Tugger. The Tugger over
19:48
there. [laughter]
19:49
And one other note before we move to the
19:52
unfortunate Crosby era. If you're not
19:54
familiar, Yager had the longest hair in
19:57
the league, okay? It was down to his
19:59
ass.
20:00
It was so ratty and so gross.
20:03
The joke that has not aged well at all
20:06
for this era was when he played in
20:08
Philadelphia, they would play the
20:10
Aerosmith song dude looks like a lady
20:13
for Yager.
20:14
And it's one of those things that we
20:15
were kids were like this is freaking
20:16
hilarious. This is the funniest thing.
20:18
And now it's like
20:20
I'm like yeah, it's like you say that
20:21
like say that aloud and you're just like
20:23
feel cringey like you know like yeah all
20:26
the time. I remember it's just very
20:28
funny to think about especially because
20:30
one of the series we'll talk about in
20:31
the next few minutes is Yager playing
20:33
for the Flyers and it completely
20:35
reversed his opinion in this town in a
20:38
way I've never seen. Yeah, it's very
20:40
hard to find an enemy with that we hated
20:44
so much like could you imagine Cody Ross
20:47
like suiting up in left field for the
20:49
Phillies and then like getting standing
20:50
ovations? Like it would never happen. It
20:53
was so rare.
20:55
I think it also shows like a little bit
20:57
of uniqueness about Flyers fans in terms
21:00
of
21:01
seeing what kind of effort and what he
21:03
was doing as a member of the Flyers was
21:05
sort of like all right.
21:08
There's some forgiveness that we can
21:10
sort of
21:11
grant here. Plus he was like also being
21:14
booed by the Penguins and I think like
21:16
we took that almost like to heart be
21:18
like no that he can't do that anymore.
21:20
Like that's our That's our guy now. He's
21:23
our guy now.
21:24
And I I always remember Giroux and
21:27
Hartnell because he they were his
21:28
linemates here and they had an amazing
21:30
line. I'm still mad that Paul Holmgren
21:32
didn't bring him back because that line
21:34
was so good. But when they went to the
21:36
All-Star game and they did the Yager
21:37
song.
21:39
So cool.
21:40
And it was it wasn't like we had a
21:43
almost like a better option at that time
21:45
to replace Yager. I think he he went on
21:48
to still be like very serviceable in the
21:51
NHL for maybe two or three additional
21:54
years.
21:55
Felt like one of those like
21:57
give the locker room just like what
21:59
they're asking for kind of moves. I'm
22:01
also that's high on my list of Paul
22:03
Holmgren
22:05
spite spite
22:07
spites in my life for sure. I feel like
22:10
we can do an entire podcast just on Paul
22:12
Holmgren. [laughter]
22:14
That was basically like where all of our
22:16
trauma
22:17
originated from basically. It's only
22:19
gotten worse. Oh god 07-08 was um
22:23
that was like that's the Flyers all four
22:26
to one in the Eastern Conference final.
22:28
That's like Pronger was on that team
22:31
right? Pronger wasn't there I don't
22:32
think. No cuz this was like Lupul this
22:34
was like Lupul and Lupul and Artyom
22:37
Anisimov
22:38
Umberger that's where the Flyers leading
22:40
scorers and they had four points each
22:43
which is how bad the Penguins shut them
22:44
down in that series. Oh man that was
22:47
really the pinnacle of this Penguins
22:49
sugar knot. This is when they had Hossa
22:53
like Hossa was this
22:56
was he a hired gun from the Blackhawks?
22:58
Did he win in Chicago or did he go to
23:01
Chicago after? I think he went to
23:03
Chicago after. I'm looking him up.
23:06
And he just was
23:08
cuz he was with the Thrashers right? Yes
23:10
he was Thrashers Atlanta
23:12
Thrashers and Pittsburgh for one year.
23:15
Pittsburgh for one year and they just
23:17
absolutely
23:18
and then Chicago for forever. That's
23:20
right. Okay Chicago. Man Hossa had such
23:23
a great career. He played for Pittsburgh
23:25
against the Red Wings in the Stanley Cup
23:27
final and then the next year he played
23:28
for Detroit against Pittsburgh in the
23:30
Stanley and he lost both times.
23:32
And then of course he wins it against
23:34
freaking Ottawa.
23:37
That series was really bad.
23:39
Marty Biron was like
23:41
we thought it was like one of those like
23:43
Flyers goalies this guy
23:45
has been good in the past what's to stop
23:48
him from being good here? And it was
23:49
just like we just got absolutely
23:52
bamboozled from by this like I mean they
23:55
were so much better than us and I think
23:56
like that was probably when we started
24:00
like seeing a lot of the need for a
24:03
better blue line.
24:06
07-08 I think Timonen was also on that
24:08
team at that point.
24:11
Did we make that trade for Hartnell? I
24:12
think Hartnell was on in 06. I think it
24:15
was like an 06
24:18
time period where we started to see like
24:21
probably the best Flyers core that was
24:24
put together
24:25
start and like start percolating but
24:28
07-08 we didn't really stand a chance
24:30
against the Penguins. There wasn't
24:32
really about I mean like that was also
24:33
one of those series where
24:36
Crosby was just so dominant and you know
24:39
we always hear so much about how much he
24:40
scores against the Flyers to this day.
24:43
I'm sure he's going to score
24:45
goals galore in the series coming up but
24:48
like I think he had something like seven
24:51
points in five games you know like he
24:54
had like a bunch of assists
24:56
lots of goals
24:58
and he's this new kid and you're just
25:00
like
25:01
this is going to happen for the rest of
25:03
our lives isn't it? Yeah I know.
25:05
That series was terrible. Yeah I know I
25:07
know. We're here 20 years later talking
25:10
about it still. I know. And he's great
25:13
still which is the disgusting part.
25:15
That's the disgusting part. They have
25:17
that series where they get torched and
25:18
then 08-09 they play them in the
25:20
quarterfinals and they lose four to two
25:23
and of course this [clears throat] is
25:23
the most one of the most infamous
25:26
moments of Flyers history and certainly
25:28
over the past 25-26
25:30
years and that's the Max Talbot
25:33
squeaky bum's time. We were so confident
25:36
going into this game it going into this
25:39
series it also felt like like I
25:41
mentioned like this core was now it
25:43
materialized you could see this amazing
25:46
depth. You look at the depth chart of
25:47
like the 08-09 Flyers
25:50
there's goal scoring and there's shut
25:51
down forwards. The blue line was mean
25:54
and nasty and big they moved the puck
25:56
really well. They scored really well.
25:59
Biron was like I think he was a lot
26:02
better second or third year on the
26:04
Flyers so I feel like he was playing
26:06
like much more serviceable. I don't
26:08
think he was like
26:10
something like Valador's level in this
26:13
year but like he was very very capable
26:16
of winning that series and we were doing
26:18
it. We were like exercising those
26:20
demons. We were beating the kid you know
26:23
and like ratty Malkin and you know like
26:26
we were there and then
26:28
just slowly just felt the soul
26:32
leave your body and it just took like
26:35
eight days of misery before it was all
26:38
said and done. It was one of the most
26:40
miserable periods I can remember. The
26:41
Flyers were up three nothing in game six
26:43
cruising when Carcillo and this always
26:46
pisses me off about this is that Dan
26:48
Carcillo actually beat Max Talbot's ass
26:49
in this fight. He beat his ass. Clear
26:51
clear I don't think he TKO'd
26:54
him obviously cuz he's like shushing
26:55
afterwards but like absolutely decisive
26:57
win for Chico. Like absolutely decisive
27:00
win.
27:01
And he gets up and he does this shush to
27:02
the crowd. I'm like what what are you
27:04
shushing? You just got your ass beat. I
27:06
don't understand. And then they they win
27:07
the game eight to three.
27:10
It's just like and that was the series
27:11
where Malkin tore the Flyers up. He had
27:13
nine points in six games. So
27:15
that's depressing as hell. That takes I
27:18
mean thankfully they make that miracle
27:19
run in the next year with Pronger so we
27:21
don't get to linger on that as much as
27:23
we might have but that shush stayed in
27:25
our mind and
27:27
honestly that's half the reason Max
27:28
Talbot never felt right here because
27:31
when Paul Holmgren brings him in for
27:33
that next series the 2011-12 season
27:36
you're like really? And he's got that
27:38
Penguins tattoo and it just never felt
27:40
good. But everything else about that
27:42
year was fantastic because you know
27:44
we're
27:45
you can debate the Richards and Carter
27:47
trades all day but at the time that year
27:50
was so fun that it felt like the right
27:52
move because that was and I think to
27:55
this day that is the most fun playoff
27:57
series
27:58
I this might be one of the most fun
28:00
playoff series in Flyers history. They
28:01
win it four to two and it's just barn
28:03
burner after barn burner game.
28:06
Every single game was a not a
28:09
heavyweight fight of two idiots. Like it
28:13
was like backyard boxing.
28:15
>> [laughter]
28:15
>> The goaltending was so bad on both sides
28:18
and the quality in front of these
28:21
goalies was so good. The Flyers team was
28:24
absolutely stacked again. This is like
28:26
Pronger Briere this is like prime Giroux
28:29
prime Voracek. This was not like oh this
28:32
was also prime Scott Hartnell like you
28:35
know like we had again we had really
28:37
good depth. We had essentially a top to
28:40
bottom team things that we haven't
28:42
really seen for over a decade in
28:44
Philadelphia. This was like Scotty
28:47
Hartnell doing the Hulkamania if
28:48
everyone remembers like on the bench in
28:51
Pittsburgh that iconic photo of him
28:54
doing it in front of all those like
28:55
powder blue Penguins jerseys.
28:58
So many ridiculous games so exciting. It
29:03
you never literally knew who was going
29:05
to win. You never knew how many goals
29:08
you needed to win. It always felt like
29:10
it was the last team standing who had
29:13
the puck at the end of the game and
29:14
they're going to win nine to eight like
29:16
it felt like every single game. It was
29:17
insane. The most crazy series I
29:20
remember. Game one goes to overtime.
29:23
Briere has two goals one was 100%
29:25
offsides. Cannot believe they got away
29:27
with it to this day.
29:29
I love it too. And then game two Flyers
29:32
win eight to five and as you see they
29:35
think about that as a playoff as a
29:37
playoff game you know like it's just
29:38
incredible to think that like
29:40
like what you imagine as like a
29:42
defensive battle turns into this like 12
29:46
point like just like this 13 goal like
29:48
outburst is totally nuts. It was great.
29:50
And two hat tricks for the Flyers in
29:52
that game. Claude Giroux and Sean
29:54
Couturier, which at that point Couts is
29:57
like a fresh-faced 19-year-old and known
30:00
only for his defense. So, him to get a
30:02
hat trick in this game was stunning.
30:04
I think this series also if we if we
30:08
want to turn back the clock and talk
30:10
about social media,
30:12
this is really like that prime like
30:13
Twitter like hockey series and everyone
30:18
was tuned into Flyers and this was
30:20
really the time where social media was
30:23
just like absolutely insane. There's
30:25
GIFs to this day, Fleury you know,
30:28
getting the beach ball shot behind him.
30:30
Like the Hartnell, [laughter] the
30:32
Hulkamania, like the Giroux shift. Like
30:35
there's so many iconic moments from this
30:37
series that we still sort of linger on
30:40
and are in every highlight reel. You go
30:43
watch the Flyers video that they posted
30:44
today and there are
30:46
dozens of moments from this 2011-2012
30:49
series. Just incredible hockey. And that
30:51
Giroux shift is I think it's really it's
30:54
one of his defining moments for
30:57
where he really declares himself as I'm
31:00
here. I am the guy on this team. I'm
31:02
pretty sure he was named captain based
31:03
on that shift alone. Where he goes and
31:06
he knocks Crosby on his ass, scores like
31:09
it's it's iconic. Like it's that and
31:12
then the moment where he scores in the
31:14
outdoor game and he puts out he does the
31:15
gladiator with his arms.
31:17
>> Unbelievable. I know. And it's both
31:18
against the Penguins. Like his defining
31:20
moments were against the Penguins.
31:21
>> I I will say like the Giroux I'll
31:24
remember is always that one flattening
31:27
Crosby and you know, just like turning
31:29
around and firing that like from the top
31:31
of the circle. That those teams were
31:34
just so much fun to hate. There were so
31:36
many people on the Penguins that you
31:38
just never wanted to see ever again.
31:41
Like Tyler Kennedy, James Neal. James
31:45
Neal running around elbowing everyone.
31:48
James Neal was dirty as hell. So dirty.
31:51
Pascal, Dupuis. You know, like Do you
31:54
remember
31:55
everyone's favorite Chris Kunitz? Like
31:57
that team and then also we haven't
32:00
spoken about these guys, you know, but
32:02
like Sid, Geno and Chris
32:04
obviously Hall of Famers. I'm not taking
32:07
away any of their talent. They have to.
32:09
>> But they're also just huge cry babies
32:11
and also super dirty. You know, like
32:14
these are not some sort of like
32:15
altruistic
32:17
Shohei Ohtani role models outside of
32:19
like sports you know, sports gambling.
32:21
Like these guys were mucking it up with
32:24
our sweet baby boy Kimmo Timonen
32:27
throwing his glove around. I mean, it
32:29
was just like unbelievable how much and
32:33
you know, animosity and hatred that that
32:36
Penguins team even to this day sort of
32:39
like still resonated with our or with
32:41
our fan base. Yeah, and that was when
32:43
Crosby was really at his peak like
32:45
asking for calls on everything. Like
32:46
Crosby's come a long way since then.
32:48
He's not nearly as bad. He used to be
32:50
horrible with that.
32:51
>> Thank you for calling it out. He had his
32:53
mouthpiece out every whistle. He was
32:55
just like rip and they cut to him
32:57
obviously cuz he's like the face of the
32:59
league and he's like just barking at the
33:01
refs every single whistle. It's like
33:03
give it a break, man. And people don't
33:05
realize how dirty Malkin is. Malkin has
33:08
done some insanely dirty plays over the
33:10
years. I forget who he swung his stick
33:13
at like a sword a few years back.
33:15
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, [laughter] it was this
33:16
year. Wasn't it this year? I think he
33:18
did it again. I think he did it Yeah, I
33:20
think he did it this year. He got like
33:22
like there was like almost like a seven
33:24
game suspension on the books this year.
33:27
And I'm so excited for this playoff
33:28
series coming up see because like I feel
33:30
like it's like a like a
33:32
like a Sith Lord like that's going to
33:35
get like his decapitated and like Matvei
33:38
Michkov is now like going to take like
33:40
the rat the ratty sort of Russian mantle
33:44
from Malkin and I just can't wait for
33:46
it. I think it will happen in this
33:47
series. I don't know if it'll be against
33:49
each other, but like I just feel like
33:52
this old grizzled dying Geno Malkin will
33:55
be like, yes, my legacy will live
33:57
[laughter] on
33:58
through Malkin. You know, and like that
34:00
will just be like the torch will pass,
34:02
you know, or the lightsaber in this
34:04
analogy.
34:05
As a No, I love it. I'm a huge nerd. I
34:08
love Star Wars, so that's right up my
34:09
alley. I'm thinking of Count Dooku
34:11
getting decapitated by Anakin right
34:12
[laughter] now. Yeah, exactly. I mean as
34:15
long as the dark side's for us, I'm
34:16
happy with it.
34:18
I'll take all the dark side guys cuz
34:19
again, we got a bunch of low-key dirty
34:21
guys right now and I'm I'm okay with it.
34:23
I'm fine being hated. I I actually like
34:25
it. Craziest series though. And I
34:27
watched that game three with the shift
34:29
from Xfinity Live with my girlfriend at
34:32
the time and her child Justin it was
34:35
like
34:35
>> Justin insane. It was the craziest
34:37
thing. I'm like, why am I here with a
34:38
child? This is stupid.
34:40
>> [laughter]
34:41
>> Yeah, you're going to get a child
34:42
services comes in it's like, this is how
34:45
my friend Yeah. They [laughter] 100%
34:46
should have. It was like a mosh pit,
34:48
dude. It was crazy. It was standing room
34:51
like
34:52
you know, elbow to elbow. I'm
34:53
high-fiving everybody. It's an 8-4
34:56
maniacal crazy game. It's one of the
34:59
best Flyers experiences I've ever had
35:01
cuz it was so crazy.
35:02
>> I think that that whole series in '11
35:05
and '12 cemented for a generation like
35:08
Flyer sickos, you know, like we that was
35:12
like a inflection point for fandom into
35:15
the you know, into the '20s 2020s. Like
35:18
this is that series basically we've been
35:22
eating off that series since then and
35:24
like sort of surviving off of the
35:26
feeling that that adrenaline rush that
35:30
we felt for those two straight weeks. We
35:32
did not lose that series. If we lost
35:34
that series, maybe we fold the franchise
35:36
because like that was just there's so
35:38
many goals, so many fights, so much like
35:41
I mentioned animosity, so many memories.
35:44
Super iconic. I don't know how you top
35:47
that series in in all of Flyers history
35:50
unless they actually take a run and win
35:52
the cup, you know, sometime soon.
35:54
Yeah, I I don't know how you top it. I
35:55
mean, Giroux had 14 points in that
35:58
series. 14 points in six games is sicko
36:00
stuff right there.
36:02
Briere had eight points in six games.
36:04
Voracek had seven points. Jagr had seven
36:06
points. Schenn had six points. It was
36:08
crazy. Now, I was doing research on
36:11
this. I could not believe who the
36:12
Penguins leading scorer was. It was
36:14
[laughter] Jordan Staal. It was someone
36:16
we hate. It was. It was. Of course it
36:18
was. Jordan Staal.
36:20
Jordan Staal. Yeah, it was um you know,
36:23
Staal was
36:25
that was obviously before he got traded,
36:28
but like that was a scary feeling
36:31
because Staal had that great year with
36:33
the Penguins that year and you're
36:35
starting to think like, oh my gosh, they
36:37
found yet another like amazing piece
36:40
that they're going to have in their
36:41
roster for years to come. And the team
36:44
loaded down the middle with Crosby,
36:46
Malkin and Staal. It's just unreal.
36:48
Yeah, I know. It was like unfair. It it
36:50
felt like like how we won that series
36:54
thank you Marc-Andre Fleury for what you
36:57
did. I will never forget you for that.
36:59
Yeah, exactly. And then the last time
37:01
they played is the less said about the
37:04
series the better. 2017-18 Eastern
37:06
Conference Quarterfinals. This is the
37:08
era of the Flyers are overmatched every
37:10
time they make the playoffs. It sucks.
37:12
And it it was a pretty crappy series.
37:16
There were a couple fun games like we
37:17
did that's when I joined BSH. We did a
37:20
we did a watch party for game two which
37:22
they won, which was awesome. And other
37:25
than that like I I have a great moment
37:27
from that's when I had started doing Fly
37:29
Perbably with Craig at that point. And I
37:32
was going on a rant about how bad
37:34
Valtteri Filppula was and I
37:37
I made this I I did this dumb thing
37:39
where I'm like, listen, there's no way
37:41
they win this series, but if they happen
37:43
to come back in the series and Valtteri
37:45
Filppula is a key part of it, I'll buy
37:48
an Irish O'Filppula jersey.
37:49
>> [laughter]
37:50
>> And then in one of the games
37:53
I did not buy it. It did not win the
37:54
series, [laughter] so I didn't have to
37:55
buy it, but
37:57
I was getting cuz he they had one of the
37:59
games he had I think two or three points
38:01
in the game and
38:03
people started like messaging me on
38:06
Twitter and everything saying, get ready
38:08
to buy that O'Filppula jersey. And I'm
38:09
like, Jesus Christ, I don't have I don't
38:11
want to do this. But I I would be
38:13
wearing it every chance I got if I
38:14
didn't have to buy it.
38:16
But that was a disgusting series.
38:19
Couturier gets a hat trick while tearing
38:21
his MCL in collision with Radko Gudas.
38:25
Self-sabotage. Crosby had 13 points in
38:28
six games. Guentzel had 13 points in six
38:30
games. Oh yeah, this is like Guentzel
38:32
era. Oh. And Guentzel had a hat trick
38:35
entirely in the third period of game six
38:37
when the game was tied to bury the
38:38
Flyers. So,
38:40
what we're looking to do this week in
38:42
the next two weeks, we are looking to
38:45
get exercise these demons because this
38:48
series left a really bad taste in our
38:49
mouth and we just want to move on.
38:51
Yeah, there's nothing to be said about
38:54
that 2017-2018 series. You said it all.
38:57
I loved and appreciated Couts
39:00
like really playing honestly like a
39:03
captain even though like obviously like
39:05
Giroux at that time was still, you know,
39:07
very much a part of the Flyers core and
39:09
and moving forward. But you could sort
39:12
of see like
39:14
there was not much left from that legacy
39:17
era where you know, we got to the you
39:20
know, obviously we got to the cup
39:22
against Chicago and we had that like
39:24
this was the end of all of that depth,
39:27
all of the all those good vibes. Like
39:29
the team was getting older.
39:31
All the young guys at that time were not
39:34
really materializing into anything more
39:36
than like quad A players.
39:38
And again, these incredible Penguins
39:41
just kept humming along. Crosby, Malkin,
39:44
Letang, And and now there's like Jake
39:45
Guentzel. This is the This is like kind
39:47
of the era where we were talking about
39:49
like the Penguins could sign a guy named
39:51
Rusty Klesla
39:52
and he'll put up like 60 points. Like
39:55
you know, without even strapping on
39:57
skates. I mean Mark down Not much to
39:59
say. Yeah.
40:00
Exactly. Mark down
40:02
>> thing I'll say The one thing I'll say
40:03
about this add another just so super
40:06
frustrating Penguin to the list. Patric
40:09
HΓΆrnqvist was like
40:11
>> [snorts]
40:11
>> in and around this series a lot if I
40:15
recall correctly and Yeah, point per
40:17
game in that series, yeah. A point per
40:19
game, okay. So like he wasn't like the
40:21
hot I don't think he was like I don't
40:23
remember him scoring any game winners,
40:25
but like he would always be like
40:28
involved in the goals and just like
40:31
just like one of those guys is like of
40:32
course the Penguins have this guy and
40:34
he's
40:36
sending us to the golf courses. Yeah.
40:38
>> They They couldn't do anything wrong in
40:39
that era and I hated the Penguins so
40:41
much.
40:42
>> I know. Couturier Couturier had nine
40:43
points in that series. The next best
40:45
Flyers had three points. Oh my gosh.
40:48
Yeah.
40:48
>> Couturier was by far the best, but you
40:50
know what? It's all about 2011-2012 at
40:52
the end of the day and I think that's
40:54
where we're going to see all the
40:55
highlights from. But I'm hoping we make
40:57
a lot of new highlights in this next
40:58
week. I'm really looking forward to it
41:00
and it's going to be a lot of fun. So
41:02
Fran, we got to get wrapped up here, but
41:05
what would you say? Two things I want to
41:07
ask you and we'll sign off. Who is your
41:09
most hated person in the rivalry
41:11
ultimately?
41:12
>> Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Mine might be
41:13
Tyler Kennedy. I hate Tyler Kennedy for
41:15
some reason. Who knows?
41:17
>> It's so hard. I
41:19
I always hated Tyler Kennedy. I
41:20
>> Darius Kasparaitis is up there for me,
41:22
too. Oh my gosh. Kasparaitis. I hated
41:25
Marty Straka's skates. I just like would
41:27
see his dumb black skates and the black
41:30
blades and just get so freaking
41:33
frustrated. Google Marty Straka and
41:35
you'll see what I'm talking about. Just
41:36
the worst sense of style out there.
41:39
Um
41:40
Uh
41:41
most hated I'll probably stay with Max
41:45
Talbot
41:46
uh on that one. I just like one of those
41:49
like stolen valor guys. Like one of
41:52
those guys that like hitched a ride on
41:54
these Hall of Famers' coattails and I
41:56
don't feel like ever did anything to
41:59
deserve the accolades that he had. James
42:02
Neal for that one or two years was so
42:04
dirty.
42:06
Um
42:07
I guess I'll stop rambling and just
42:10
final answer lock me into Evgeni Malkin.
42:13
I hope we really bury him this this
42:15
series coming up. I hope we make him
42:17
retire. That's what I'm thinking.
42:18
[laughter] Yeah. Uh I'm also going to
42:20
throw an honorable mention for Matt
42:21
Cooke in there CUZ THAT GUY OH, Matt
42:23
Cooke. Yes, he did. There's not much to
42:25
say about him except for he sucked. Yes.
42:29
Final question, what's your top moment
42:31
in the rivalry? What's your favorite?
42:33
Uh the favorite moment is probably I
42:37
mean, it's cheesy, but like the Giroux
42:40
shift. No, it's not. Start of the game.
42:42
It's at home. We need the win. You're
42:46
always looking for a Philly team to sort
42:48
of set like what is that energy moving
42:52
forward. Uh we've seen it in football.
42:54
We see it sometimes the Phillies do it.
42:57
Um like I I kind of think of like the
43:00
Hoskins homer against Strider early in
43:03
that game where everyone's sort of
43:06
waiting for like what is that moment
43:09
where all this penned up anxiety and
43:11
frustration really explodes out and
43:13
Giroux gave it to us in like 7 seconds
43:16
and it just
43:17
totally set that game on fire. It was
43:20
like a We were just 100 miles an hour
43:23
that whole game. I don't know if
43:24
everyone in the crowd ever sat down.
43:26
Um that that's got to be it for me for
43:28
sure.
43:29
Was that was I think I was there for the
43:31
Hoskins-Strider one. Was that at home?
43:33
Was that the one where you spiked the
43:35
bat or was that a different
43:36
>> The bat spike, yeah. It was like a day
43:38
game.
43:39
>> Yeah, I was going to say on the mound.
43:40
We hate him. I think it was like fourth
43:42
inning or so and Hoskins just like
43:44
That's my analogy for like how you know,
43:47
like a more modern day uh a
43:50
interpretation of like what it what that
43:52
feeling was when Giroux hit Crosby and
43:55
then scored that goal. Setting the tone,
43:57
baby. You got to love it. I'm all about
43:59
it.
43:59
>> I think mine ultimately is Primo, but
44:01
the Giroux one is like a close second
44:04
right there.
44:04
>> Yeah. Yeah. Right. Phenomenal stuff
44:06
right there.
44:06
>> Yeah. Fran, thank you. This was a lot of
44:08
fun, my friend.
44:09
>> Steve blast from the past. I'm so glad
44:12
that I am the the old man that you can
44:14
call like
44:15
wake up from the couch at the retirement
44:18
home and like talk about old Flyers
44:20
games. I'm so happy we said the words
44:21
Jaroslav Hopefully like your SEO is
44:24
really good and he gets a notification
44:27
>> [laughter]
44:27
>> notification that we're talking about
44:29
him again. And honestly, I'm a little
44:31
upset that you made me think about James
44:33
Neal tonight. So like
44:34
>> Sorry about that. happy, but also upset.
44:35
So yeah, it was fantastic, man. Thanks
44:37
so much for having me. It was so much
44:39
fun.
44:39
>> I just remember when you saw me at Pearl
44:41
Jam, you described me to my girlfriend
44:43
as saying
44:45
like when the Flyers do eventually win
44:46
the cup, we're going to just find each
44:48
other on Broad Street and lock eyes and
44:50
it'll be amazing. It'll be a kiss. I'm
44:52
I'm I'm saying it on the record. This is
44:54
still recording. Yeah, you know that
44:56
iconic like sale you know, the Times
44:58
Square kiss after the war ended. We're
45:00
doing that once we win the cup, baby.
45:03
Lock it in. Lock it in.
45:06
Go Flyers. I'm saying Flyers in six,
45:08
too. I'm saying Flyers in six. That
45:10
>> house money. We don't know how to lose
45:12
right now. Let's go for it. These guys
45:15
don't They're too stupid to lose.
45:16
They're too young and naive and they're
45:17
They're too dumb to lose. I love it.
45:19
Love it so much. Fran, Flyers Goal
45:21
Scored by Go follow him where the heck
45:23
you want to follow people. I am
45:24
Flyperbly and that's all that's all
45:27
that's all there is. Thank you so much
45:29
and until next time in the words of
45:29
great Gene Hart, good night and good
45:31
hockey.