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UFC 310 Reactions w/ UFC Vets Jessica Penne and Angela Hill
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Jan 20, 2025
Jess was on site and Ange watched from home in what turned out to be a pretty stellar final PPV of the year. Big ko's, submissions and a few odd decisions sprinkled in seemed to round out this year of MMA perfectly. Join Jess and Ange as they react to all the big moments of the card. 01:05 Jess had too much fun in Vegas for UFC 310 03:56 Alexandre Pantoja was so nice getting Kai Asakura out of there fast so people could go home. 08:37 Pantoja calls out Mighty Mouse! 10:15 Shavkat Rakhmonov vs Ian Garry a lot more technical than fans would have hoped 16:24 what does Shavkat vs Belal Muhammad look like? 18:18 We got to chat with Joaquim Buckley, check it out! 20:00 Are we happy about Movsar Evloev vs Aljamain Sterling not being on the main card? 25:38 Merab fighting round the world along with everyone else. Maybe Ange needs start some street fights to get booked. 31:39 Joshua Van does have hands!! He ran through Cody Durden with power and precision. 34:56 Cyril Gane Vs Alexander Volkov robbery review 44:18 Battle vs Brown, PFL gets points from Ange for deducting points for weight misses. 47:30 Mike Bell is on the good list! (whoops, he was not the judge that scored for Volkov but he’s usually doing a good job) 48:30 Dohoo Choi with impressive surprising approach to beating Nate Landwehr 52:56 Bryce Mitchell gets a crazy slam ko over Kron Gracie. 01:00:55 Chase Hooper gets the win, we have an interview streak going! Powered by Duelbits.
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hello hello are you ready yes are your earbuds and and the boobs ready uh I see
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the boobs are ready my [ __ ] BR keeps popping out of there though it's okay so your boobs in I know looking like
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looking like muffin tops like some baked bread you know uh every now and then I got to let the pecs uh get a little pump
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little pump action for the pecs we we both have our winter coats right now and
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so when my winter come coat comes in my my AC cups look more like AC cups unless
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like L like a boy test Hector miners pector miners oh my God
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yeah yeah so I got a little bit of girliness going on right now thanks Christmas thanks uh Thanksgiving dinners
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um yeah but you had some fun out in Vegas yeah speaking of recovering yay I
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am not running on all cylinders right now I quite tired Vegas tends to like suck the life
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out of me um I I've lost at least a year or two of life it's the sun totally it's
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the sun takes all that life away from you there's just something about it that I
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swear I just I feel so tired m when I'm there when I leave I think it is the sun
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like it's the dryness it's the not having anything to do but drink every day it's it's probably other that's
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probably it yeah oh my God
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yeah you go from one glass to like two bottles on your own and you wonder why
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you're not feeling very good the next day yeah it's uh I mean it's probably your fault for being a wine head too you
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have to have a bot of wine yeah I'm well conditioned with wine nobody helps you
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with it everyone else is like this weird I drinking wine with her purple teeth
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and it has to be a fresh bottle it has to be you have to just freshly open it you cannot i' I've sent many glasses
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back yeah you know those degenerates in Vegas don't uh don't appreciate a fresh
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glass of wine so they don't chill them they just put them on the bar top in the back and they like they like look at it
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and I'm like no turn around and go back don't even pour that for me open me a new bottle it's
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all dusty like how is it Dusty it's just been here from last night I'm like no
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sure you didn't work last night I already know that well you know who was working last
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night was everyone on UFC 310 it was a good card it was a good card it was a
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long freaking card I was there for a long time what what fight did you get there on I got there uh um the third
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fight damn yeah no I know I know I don't know what they were thinking a long
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night it was a very long night and very high heels and Boots nice I was breaking
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a new pair of boots not the smartest thing my feet are a little bit sore but it's okay I looked good at least he looked good you know looking good Powers
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you through the pain of looking good no it really does it helps right it does it's like you know when you're in fight
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camp and you're doing your you know last round you're doing an extra round and you're like but you know it's important
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there's something that you're working towards it's like that yeah dig down yeah or that like weight cut when you
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have no energy getting on the scale for that final flex but you know your abs
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look amazing exactly so you you do it and you smile you hop up on
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there here I come um yeah so that it was a long card and at the very end we got a
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real good I love when the main event knows that everyone's tired and they
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just get out there and they they get it done quick I was so appreciative Pantoja I was like you're my favorite yeah thank
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you thank you so much he read the room so well he did he was like you know what these guys they're they're tired they're
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tired that Ian Gary and shot took way too long that fight was not supposed to go to distance it was not no so he got
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in there and did his thing and man he looked good so so when I was watching uh a little bit of tape on Kaa sakur
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because I'm like how did this guy get this opportunity after having lost the people who are in the UFC yeah and I saw
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like a lot of explosiveness he's really unpredictable with his striking uh he has a good instincts for when to throw
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that jump knee when to throw the kicks when to get in there and he has like that touch death too with his hands so
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I'm like okay this guy definitely has the skills to beat someone like a Pantoja but I I felt like there were a
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few things that would throw them off like not fighting in a cage huge the ropes man like you can get
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away with so much more against a Grappler when you have those ropes to bounce off of you can do like the kind
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of Looney Tunes like whoa little Rope A Dope bounce into a
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knee as they shoot for your legs and also you don't get stuck up against the fence as much um because there is no
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fence you just fall through the Rope if you try to push someone up against there and take him down so I felt like that
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would throw him off and and it definitely looked like it did like pinia was able to draw things out even though
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the knee came up and was scary at one point I feel like he got right off to the side a little bit so it didn't
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connect with the full amount that it could have and man it was just oneway
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traffic once he could get his hands on him I was really impressed with that fight yeah it it looked like um I from
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where I was standing and I couldn't you know I had a different Vantage Point than you did but it just looked like
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everything was just a big timed explosion he was timing it really well when Pantoja was coming in for those
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takedowns initially but Pantoja started you know getting the distance getting his rhythm and just seeing his openings
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um that ended up leading to the Finish but it's um I understand how he got that
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title shot because he's you know the new shiny toy he's exciting he's a champion in in another um organization there's
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Mystique about him it um you know brings in the Asian crowd that the UFC is like you know seeking and I understood it
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it's just but I could also understand the frustration of the other Fighters that are waiting in line in the flyweight division no for sure but uh
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you know I didn't really realize this but T Pantoja has cleared out the
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division he really has he's fought and beat everyone in spectacular fashion so yeah while there are people who are kind
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of next in line who are right they at the top like okay if there's an opening I should be the guy that they called
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it's not ideal just because they had already fought so I'm I'm hoping that someone emerges from the crowds but uh
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right now that was a good risk I think for the UFC to take because if they had
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a Japanese Champion they could be doing like a UFC Japan they could be doing a
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pay-per-view we have like a few Japanese stars or or is it just one we have the
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tatsa Tyra guy we have the girls from from Road there I think there's a couple
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uh Japanese fighters on from from road to the UFC that could get signed as well so um yeah there's definitely a market
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for them having Japanese stars but yeah he's going to need to beat up a few more
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people and I think his style goes really well against top five it makes for exciting fights at the very least yeah
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it it mixes things up in a way that's that's intriguing so I I think he's a great addition it's just what are they
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going to do with him now now he'll you know drop down and maybe fight the number two three guy and it just it
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mixes things up in a really nice way I'm not I'm not mad at it I understand why they were doing it um I understand you
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know I I can see both sides of everything so yeah I think he's a good
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addition to the UFC and I mean I feel horrible for them for having to fight again uh to secure their spot but how
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cool would uh uh asakura versus Mareno look or asakura versus Roy Val look like
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those are fun fight to make that mix it up and keep things fresh and keep people excited about the flyweight division so
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that was a really cool one um what did you think about his call out to DJ I mean I thought it was cool but DJ
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like he's like nah they already came at me for teal million I'm not doing it I don't want to fight anymore and I respect that he's doing really well for
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himself after since he's retired you know he doesn't need to if the motivation is not there and the money is
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you just shouldn't do it so I I like that call out I understand it I think
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that would be a sick fight that I would love to see that we'll never ever get to see thanks for you know putting that in our minds and get us excited for a
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couple seconds two seconds he he literally he was doing like a a live
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watching and he just like me no nah bro I'm cool I'm good I make that on my
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twitch monthly yeah yeah yeah I'm good bring it up a bit maybe maybe he'll bite
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I don't know I feel like there's probably a number though like there's probably a number two million everybody
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has a number two million especially after DJ knows how slighted he was on
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the pace scale and he's been very vocal about it um I understand it like like
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put a zero on the end of that two two wait 20 million 20 million put a Zer on
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the end of my dumb ass two billion you're so smart this is why I
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fight oh let your manager take care of the the money Parts he just you just get in there and kill and I get mad at the
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judges they do less math than I just had to do just now and they just they don't
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even have to do multiplication they just have to do addition I know man well we'll get to the judges in a second but
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what did you think about the co-main event uh shavkat Rak manov versus Ian
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Gary so this is how I thought the fight would go yeah kind of right I was I I
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was impressed with Gary in some senses he was more aggressive than he has been like when we saw him against Jeff Neil
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and he's just like on his bike I'm like oh my God we cannot do we cannot keep having this on the road to the Belt yeah
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we just can't do it um I thought that you know they they both brought the
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fight I thought that they both canceled each other out really well and I liked the adjustments that uh shavkat was
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making yeah um and I yeah I thought it was a clear victory there was um a
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little bit of drama with the rear naked choke attempt that had me like screaming
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and fidgeting in my seat so close he's going to be kicking himself about that moment you know for a
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long time but it was interesting to see him come with that type of attack I feel
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like he really couldn't get much off on his feet like we didn't see that many moments from Ian gar even though he was
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Landing his combinations every now and then now and then he was kind of on his
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like you were saying with the other fights just waiting for that opportunity waiting for the rush I think shavkat
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approached it in a very safe way where he was going for the takedowns which shuts down your striking a lot and I
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don't know what kind of Ian Gary I expected to see because in his MVP fight too there was a lot of oop excuse me
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there was a lot of grappling there was a lot of uh you know just nullifying the fight and not letting it get to that
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point where it became more unpredictable you had two explosive Strikers just
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going at it with with each other it kind of became that same kind of uh that same
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kind of game plan against shavkat where nothing really let off because of the
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cautiousness of both of these Fighters so it I thought it was a clear win for
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shavkat but the only moment that was closest to getting the finish it seemed
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like was he and Gary yeah there was what was it the third round I think I gave
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that one to to Gary because he was just throwing some power kicks and he was
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starting to land and he was starting to put um uh just volume out there that was
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stopping shaat and and making it difficult for him to get in for those takedowns if he could take that those
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those moments of Victory from that round and then apply it into his next fight going forward um I I think he'll make
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for a more exciting fight and a more um uh uh what's the [ __ ] word
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devastating certain like a certain Victory dominant dominant victory yeah
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um instead of just like you know getting this this like moment opportunity that he jumped on like um I I think he could
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he could do better for himself and and set himself up for success in that way if he puts more volume and if he starts
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going forward because there were some moments of success that I saw and that was when he would was pushing forward
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yeah I don't know um if we're ever going to see that Ian Gary again though because he got so much criticism for
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getting hurt in the fights where he got these big spectacular Knockouts so I'm wondering if he took that to heart or if
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like he was getting hurt and just playing it off really well and going forward was just like this is not a
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longevity type of approach that I'm taking right now like if I keep doing this I'm going to end up being punch
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drunk before I get to the title and it seems like a very safe way that he's approaching it now and just because
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we've seen what he could do when he first got onto the scene we're like come on do that thing again you know but like
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I think that we're potentially seeing him like in his Evolution and it's not
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completely evolved into his new style or what he's trying to adapt his style to be but we're seeing him apply it like in
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real time in compet and so against the highest against the highest level competition to go to
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decision with shavat ranov I mean that that's a fe in itself just the fact that
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he was also undefeated I think people are underplaying the fact that he was able to do that yeah I I think um he
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needs to get some credit and acknowledgement for for what he did and how well he did in that fight and um
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that he he took shof cot to his what his first decision fight I know in 19 fights
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what insane he probably has no confidence now no sh over there ripping
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up I don't know and man that Arena had so many flags oh it was insane like the
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energy for him he's he's a superstar he is man there's something about his Aura
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he has something similar to that P type of uh way that he carries himself I don't know if it's cuz he just doesn't
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speak English it's the stoic yeah he it's the stoicism that is just it's very intriguing to to
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fans yeah yeah it is but he's so nice I remember and he I feel like P is
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probably very nice too but there there's something about it where yeah there's this guy who has this um ability to kill
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you yeah just Monster just such a monster but then like we're getting off
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the bus I think this I told the story before but uh we're getting off the bus and he's like oh y oh like with the bit
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of communication he could say oh you forgot your your bag on the bus I don't
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even think it was our bag but we were like oh than thank you so much what a sweet young man oh my goodness so uh
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super excited that he won because that's the fight that I wanted to see I wanted to see him versus Bal Muhammad I wanted
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to see how that looked but after seeing how Ian Gary was able to get on top of
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him was able to take his back I don't know I'm not liking his chances against Bal it was
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he was a little bit exposed um in a way that I think it has people thinking that
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bolal has his number especially at how well Bal performed his last time out
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against Leon Edwards and I will say that Leon looked very sleepy in that fight um not to take it away from from bal's
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Victory what time is this fight happening can we please have it on standard uh like you you where's he from
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London time yeah please let this man sleep
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um but yeah I I don't I don't know uh now it's it's
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going to be a rough one I think for for shafkat because I we've seen in a few of
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his more recent fights people are starting to get a little bit bit of success against him before the
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inevitable happens before he's able to put him on the floor
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so Bal is one of those champions that is just a calculator in the same way people
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are criticizing Ian Gary for his approach balal is The Mastermind of that type of approach where he takes Intel he
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works and works and works on the exact combinations that are going to work for that opponent and with shavkat
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especially after this fight he has a lot to take from yeah he has a lot of footage now yeah yeah so this is this is
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probably a better situation for balal to win than it was when they originally
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meant to fight each other other yeah he was exposed a little bit there's definitely a lot of feedback and a lot of like takeaways from watching that
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long five round fight so yeah we we'll see how it goes I'm still excited for it
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I'm uh you know I think it'll still be a good fight I'm just leaning towards Bal
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now yeah yeah and uh you know the fight that was originally supposed to happen
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was Ian Gary versus uh wae Buckley we got to talk to wae earlier today so make
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sure you check out that interview on our YouTube page and he had some things to say about the fight as well so make sure
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you check that out and uh yeah leave comments and tell us what else who else
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we should interview and stuff but that was really cool to him to pop in and give us ESP so close to his fight you
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know just approaching fight week and uh getting ready to leave and um but man he
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he is so impressive I've uh been with him fight week in Atlantic City um his
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energy during his weeks is just it's unbelievable it's fun it's like man this
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guy just like keeps going he th off of these like high pressure situations like
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it just he rises to the and brings out the best in him he feeds off of it in a way that is just um I I really don't see
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very often in Fighters no it's really cool to see someone that close to the fight just having that much energy being
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willing to do interviews a lot of people get to the point where where uh even you
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know at his young career they're just like a another media thing another this another that and he like you said he's
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thriving in that whole just having the attention on him being able to represent
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being able to prove things like he loves that so it was really cool talking to him and and I love that energy it gives
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me energy um just wanting to see how that fight plays out him versus Kobe
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Covington so uh that's going to be a fun one uh but uh you know we were talking
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about that fight supposed was supposed to be on the main event one fight that
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wasn't or on the main card one fight that wasn't on the main card that a lot of people are talking about was uh aljo
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versus evov and I'm wondering how you felt about the decision especially afterwards
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uh I mean watching it I felt like that was such a more technical bout then I
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think a lot of people are going oh Crown versus Bryce Mitchell should have been like the headliner or or on the prelims
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or whatever but there were a few fights that could have replaced that one and Alo was probably the top of the list um
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I I heard he was he was very um upfront about his feelings of being you know put
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on like in in the middle of the preliminary card or you know not even a headliner spot yeah it's um so the thing
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is we get paid the same like wherever you are on the card it doesn't matter you're still getting paid the same um
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you still you know and and farther up the card you get more more views I guess
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more eyes are on you so maybe that's you know part of part of the issue um
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honestly I I think it's something that you just kind of have to let go and you can't take personal because there's all
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sorts of you know people fighting that have different appeals to different
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viewers and it's just you just got to understand that the UFC knows what they're doing and they're doing things
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for a reason but it's nothing to take personal and you can't let it affect you going into a fight yeah I I didn't hear
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uh Alo complaining about it too much or or most like they were asked about it but I think it was more uh I guess like
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a media talking point but then also fans were really upset about it too like hey you're putting this fight before this
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one that actually means a lot more for the weight class and for you know the
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future of who fights for the title thing is though if you if you put like um we
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had on the early prelims we had Weidman and Eric Anders who were supposed to be
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you know uh headlining the preliminary card at Madison Square Garden it's the
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UFC is doing it I think to bring views to the other Fighters as well so if you
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have you know a a big name fight and you put it lower on the card people are going to show up a little bit earlier to
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watch those fights they're going to tune in on TV a little bit earlier to watch those fights so I do think it is strategic I don't think it's meant to
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offend yeah yeah and and honestly I don't think they were too offended um
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but it was funny H what is this I don't
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know yeah I I don't think they were too offended but it it was a a big deal to a
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lot of the fans like you saw that comment a lot on social media and on YouTube pages and like I part of me the
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reason I thought that it happened that way is because they knew it was going to go to decision like you have aljo who is
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fighting someone who is a very good Grappler usually when aleran gets a A
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finish it's against someone who's more of a striker someone who uh can't defend
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like the backpack that well and evov is very good in those positions he's very
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defensive he's a big guy too and he goes to decision with all of his ones as well
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so that was my thought behind it sure when you have a matchup like Bryce
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Mitchell versus cron and Gracie you know you know someone's going to get finished and those are I'm sorry but their names
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carry a little bit more weight like that matchup oh you think so I think so I I I hate to say that I hope it's not
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offensive but I think that Kon Gracie's name still holds a lot of interest yeah
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maybe CU like you come from the grappling background spice Mitchell yeah
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um I I think that that was a more exciting grappling match just because I
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think that they saw the way Kon fights he was potentially also going to get knocked out or finished you know I think
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it was just going to be a little bit more um of a um a less competitive grappling match
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than um evov and uh Alain yeah no I
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definitely thought that it was a mismatch when I saw that fight got booked and I figured that was why
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they're throwing in a sacrificial lamb for the gods of the main card to keep it
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exciting as you get to you have to feed them otherwise they get angry where are my
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finishes that's it all the M all all the title fights are going all five rounds
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you know think then like you know volcano starts erupting somewhere there's an earthquake there's lightning
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striking down you don't want to deal with that you don't get home until 2: a.m. yeah exactly because the main event
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went all five rounds and the were fouls just nutshot clock kep going you
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got to appease them yeah you do you do so that's that's how I figured that happened they came to that decision so
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guys relax that's that's just the reasoning we appreciate you're so passionate about it though yeah but I
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mean if I was a former Champion I'd be pretty pissed too W just saying or an
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undefeated uh you know guy with no mustache I'd be pretty pissed too just saying I am so
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marketable what are you doing just saying um what speaking of marketable
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how funny is it that morab has just been a little deviant outside of the cage but
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he does it in a way that I'm not mad at him I love him even more it's great I
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love him even more I'm like yes do whatever you want baby just just do it
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thing he does like the where was it the Craig Jones Invitational I think that was the first one I was just like oh
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moraba is like about that life and then uh before the fight uh him and Umar were
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going at it like going back and forth and then after Al joo's walking back
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from his fight a fan tried to I I think it turned out it was one of umar's
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people like he was seen in like more stories and all this other stuff he
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started talking [ __ ] to uh to morab and morab went after okay so Georgians very
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run very hot yes they are like letina woman don't mess with them Hot Blooded
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Georgians wow oh my gosh so feisty yeah there was um there was a lot of like
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musical chairs going on like um from the start to the finish of that fight wow
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yeah okay everybody is being moved around and I've got to say the way Omar is promoting this this fight that's been
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announced now I wish I think you need a new angle cuz he keeps talking about you're ducking me you're ducking no you
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guys are fighting he's not ducking you yeah the contract is signed it's happening yeah come up with something
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else please well he did um you know morab has a pretty good marketing
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team with him right now so he keeps doing his little lessons with morab
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where he's pointing to the different faces and saying this is why I'm fighting or this is why I want to fight
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this guy this is why I want to fight that guy so I get why he's going that angle saying oh you're trying to duck me
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you're trying to do this and that but yeah it's signed it's done done it's gonna happen unless one of your Lackey
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get a hold of Mor Rob and then he I don't know gets a eye pooke or get cut
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or something like you know morab will probably still fight call off your henchmen yeah call him off like you get
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to do the job don't make your henchmen do the job cuz you might just ruin a really good opportunity it's crazy how
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like heavy they roll all deep yeah if there's one there's 20
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you got to watch out man and they jump out of nowhere you don't know who they are it's like any they all have their
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hoods on so you can't tell yo look out for anyone without a mustache cuz like that guy might be after you Mor Rob like
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he might be after you be careful out there of course he's not going to be careful though there are a lot of fights
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like little backstage scuffles though like you had a uh de in the water bottle
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yeah Nath is in the water bottle with uh with Islam I didn't know they had why when yeah I thought they were like two
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different I'm like you don't even know each other yeah um then who else oh
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Jamal was getting after it with the p the pi yeah at the pi were you there for
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that tell me you there I wasn't I wasn't I I was just coming into town but I talked to him afterwards okay what did
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he say yeah he met up with uh me and Brian and everybody on like uh Team Sucker Punch nice um he just you know he
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just said that he's embracing his role of the
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heel the heel is a hill or is the hill a hill that is the
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question Jamal Hill that is get it Jamal Hill anyway yeah we got it yeah we got it we're checking we're
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checking I got you I need to embrace my heel man I need to get more heel like so
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I can get more fights I'm like dying over here with my measly two fights a year oh poor
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things I'm used to having seven a you know it's it's like uh the stock market
29:41
is just up and down sometimes you know all right I need to get you need to help me with my heess am I a heal who am I no but you
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can give me like you watch like real housewives and all those shows where
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like you have the villain who everyone wants to see get [ __ ] up that need
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that's what I need to do so people book me on the fights you just you got to let
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you got to let Angela Trill out more often I know but see nobody wants to do
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that because once you turn heel there's no going back and you have to really be okay with what girl I've been heill
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since I was born they don't get to see it born a
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Hill die a hill cuz I didn't take Adam's last
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it was a strategic marketing tactic yeah there you go I knew this day would come yeah I I
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do I do need to let Angela chill out a little bit more maybe maybe it's in you it's in there it's in there behind those
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pecs maybe um maybe at the end it maybe in uh uh where is that La we can uh
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throw a chair we yeah we can we can storm them with Angela Trill and hot mess jazz yes get some [ __ ] brewing oh
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man they'll be sorry the day they met them Angela Hills looking for a
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fight yeah that'll be fun but yeah uh there were a lot of fights backstage I forget who else was going after but um
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but yeah it was it was it looked like a pretty heated weekend I don't know maybe because it was the last pay-per-view of
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the year or something everyone just trying to act out trying to promote a fight right everyone has the same idea
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it's going to get old soon by the time I do it people are like [ __ ] we know what you're [Music]
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doing you anyway you still got to wait until May do it anyway I will it'll be
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fun um uh what did you think about the Joshua van fight we were very wrong
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Joshua van is legit he is a monster and uh someone on
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our page I forget who but we saw your comment you were saying that uh Josh van
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has hands and you were right he looked amazing the first round kind of went how I thought it would yeah that's how I
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thought the fight would go yeah and I thought Duran would be able to keep doing that every round maybe take a few
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hits here or there but still be able to keep that wrestling pace and and really mess up Joshua van with with the pacing
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and with the out grappling but van has power man yeah his uh durability just
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kind of a he was not durable he is
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not it works it works no it works it works okay good we got
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it um yeah he just started piecing him up with his hands and and it um he he
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made it so that uh Duran just couldn't get in on him you know he couldn't find the timing anymore he couldn't find
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those entrances um van did a great job with his boxing and keeping that distance he did he did uh it it looked
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like like every time he hit him it made a huge difference in just his body
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language his his drive his ability to close the distance everything was really
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affected him and had it made me think like man he must have some power it's like that uh I don't even know like
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where Myanmar is is in Asia somewhere but he he looks like those Islanders got to be close to like Mongolia or yeah
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something like that or maybe like Samoa yeah those guys heavy
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bones those places are in totally different places in the world but you
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know what we mean he looks heavy-handed like you can tell he looks like his bone
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density is just a little heavier than than what he's able to show up and do but uh it was funny I was watching the
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fight and the commentators were really critical of Duran's coaches because they
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were saying um you got to win this round in the third and they're like why are
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they telling him that I'm we're sure that he won the first round like he should just go out there and play it
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safe and then sure enough when it went to the judge's scorecards two of the judges gave van the first round because
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he was Landing with power and just making it really visible that it was hurt so I thought that was a good job by
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the coaches and yeah sometimes the commentators don't know as much as they think they do sometimes they don't you
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know but it's um they could be you know you know looking at uh focusing on on
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the different things you know and missing the the details and the intricacies yeah yeah well we forgot to
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talk about it but let's talk about it now speaking of Judges they are about to be put on blast
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right now because we have a couple of uh repeat offenders who scored the fight
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for gone and the gone versus volov fight I yeah I'm bringing it up hold on yeah
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um it was Adelaide bird and um I always mess up his name junico CH
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chiro who both scored um I think it was the first and the second round for for
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seral Gan and man like I have to rewatch the first round because when I was
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watching the fight I thought it could have easily been three to three know for
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volov um so yeah it it could have been but if you look at like the stats the
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significant strikes you have gone like winning the first two rounds yeah but
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you have to think about the control yeah and they both got rocked in the second round so it it really uh it was really
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frustrating for me to see that and I'm wondering how many people saw that first round for him I think most people scored
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the first round for SEL Gan so maybe that was why I was so taken aback by by
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the decision but man it just looked like volkov's fight he was controlling he was
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on top he he they hurt each other equally in the second round but I think volov finished stronger and then in the
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third round siral G was going for nothing the the thing that's been really
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evident to me um since he fought ningu is that he his fight IQ he can't
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is not great he he goes like he went for the leg again like he did in the Nano fight that that lost him the third round
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that lost him that fight making that decision and he constantly in this fight
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with volov put himself in really bad positions going for a leg again going
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that for for that kamur and not really doing anything with it it's like um when
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you are learning submissions you also have to to learn and understand when to abandon them them and when to move on
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because he literally stayed on bottom in the third round trying to grip that
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kamora and it really just I mean his hands were yeah locked but there were no leverage points he wasn't able to to
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move or affect the base of volov and he just needs to understand I I hope this
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is a a big wakeup call for him that he needs to be able to make those decisions faster yeah I I wrote in my notes that
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he went for that Cur in a very blue belt way it was it is the blue belt mentality
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like oh man I got this I'm going to get it I'm just going to latch on and close my legs and hope that you magically fall
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into my submission and it was obvious he didn't have anything but uh yeah I don't
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know maybe maybe the reason people are so upset about that fight is because of the Optics of the third round because
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the second round was close and I I that round to gone yeah and I acknowledged the second round was very close but I
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thought that first round maybe the second round definitely the third went to bukov mhm so I I kind
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of feel sorry for him but uh I think I think maybe after talking with you about
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it and seeing like the fans uh uh opinions on which rounds were won maybe we were all just seeing something
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different but that last round was very obvious who would win the fight if it had gone five rounds you know so it it
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it might have been a little closer than we thought but yeah I thought that the judges got it
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wrong and when you look at these fights where the betting lines are a certain
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way when the underdog clearly wins but
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the favorite ends up being the one who gets the decision you got to think that there's something else going on you it
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does it does bring that up and it's really unfortunate that it does bring that up but it does yeah it does it does
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it backs it up it makes it makes makes sense it does we we got our foil hats on
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and we're we're on to you judges uh so it was Adelaide bird who gave gone the
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first and second Eric colen gave him the first he's actually the one that um gave
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it to volov and then um juniko Kam kiju
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yes he's the one on the list that I always mess up with and then look at the media scores and your
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girl um the media scores not one person gave it to God oh uh sorry Danny seura
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from MMA junkie idiot hey shut
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up they're going to get mad at you you know how strongly they feel about butcher I know I know telling that poor
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Angel to shut up I'm sorry butcher GNA get it after we're done the comments are
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going to go crazy how dare you shush him oh man but yeah uh uh that that is
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always my clear reasoning behind Okay that definitely was the wrong score or
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at least everyone's seeing something that the judges aren't and we need to get on the same page if you look at um
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even if you look at alamain Sterling's fight versus uh evov if you look at um
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uh who was it Randy Brown's fight versus Brian battle it seems like all of those fights were scored on different criteria
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because you're in one fight you're scoring control more another fight you're scoring damage more another fight
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you're scoring aggression more like they they're not clear on the criteria of
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what they're going to score F either that or they don't care either that or they know that because of the way MMA
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judging is they can make a case for any decision that they come to and no one's going to call them on
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it it's let me pull this up really fast of course it's going to take slow
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yeah and I'm not saying I thought that that was the wrong decision I thought it was a really close fight with the uh
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evov uh alamine Sterling fight yeah but I feel like whatever Adelaide bird and
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junico chiru came to with the gone volov
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fight they would have picked Sterling to win potentially yeah no it it it tracks
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I get what you're saying it does back that up same with battle versus brown so because we don't have a clear idea of
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what ons us decisions then we're going to keep coming back to this yeah and for
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in my theory it should be damage and control and whoever got closest to
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finishing the fight and I think uh in the volov fight it was vov I think uh
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you know in the in the evov Sterling fight it was mostly grappling so it it's
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hard to tell um but like when it comes to controlled time Sterling controlled
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longer than it's just the Optics of the last part of the round that was impressionable and I think that that is
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cleared too you know that needs to be cleared up are we scoring the end of the round higher than the beginning because
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in a rule book that's not supposed to be no but the way it happens it's just I feel like it's human error yeah you know
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what I'm saying it's just what left the the last impression the last thing that you see before you take you know and and
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draw that number down on the page yeah that's what they're doing it off of but if your job is to be a fair judge and to
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not allow the last minute of a fight to affect how you thought about the first
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four minutes of a fight then you have to go no of course that's what I mean it's human error yeah it's it's not right and
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I don't think that trying to understand it yeah for sure no I don't I definitely don't think that they uh
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are accounting for that if if that's the way you're going to score or that or they understand okay I'm going to score
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the last two minutes of the round higher than the first three minutes which doesn't make sense for me yeah so it's
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like you use the same energy to control the first half of the fight that you will use for the second half so it
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shouldn't matter TimeWise if it's a fight with rounds yeah if you're going
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to do that just have us fight for 10 minutes and see what happens you know have us fight for 15 minutes straight
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with no breaks and see what happens but if you're going to score okay who did the best in these five minutes it should
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be all equal so it's uh it's really frustrating as a fighter um you know
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frustrating as a commentator as a future coach like to understand what is winning
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decisions because most fights go to decision yeah like you can't just say finish fight especially when you get to
43:53
the highest level especially when these fights at the highest level that are probably going to go to decision are
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going to be the ones that make or break your career is it's just really frustrating it just it makes it
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so difficult to to guide your fighter to success yeah you know when you just when
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you don't have that clear concise road to Victory you don't understand the
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scoring criteria so how can you coach your fighter to victory yeah what did you think about the Randy Brown Brian
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battle fight I thought that Randy Brown won yeah me too one thing that I think
44:29
would be interesting is if they implemented the so this I don't compliment pfl for much
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but but you're going to do it wow pfl open your
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ears I love that when someone misses weight they deduct the point from the
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mate the weight misser scorecard because 90% statistic wise 90% of the time if if
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you miss weight you're winning that fight yeah because you come in fresher you come in heavier you've put your body
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through less harm um it has to recover from from less trauma it is a thing it's
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a real freaking thing it is and uh I felt horrible when I saw because you
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know they're both my boys but but I felt horrible when I saw uh on
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Randy Brown's story oh man I I I suffered I did all this to make the way
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I prepared I suffered I I went through all the pain of losing those last four
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pounds and he didn't yeah and that's heartbreaking yes it's heartbreaking
45:37
because just because a fighter is professional and just because they make
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weight without complaining doesn't mean they went through they didn't go through hell yeah in order to make that weight
45:48
exactly you know so and Ry Brown is huge he has a huge frame he's a big tall
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skinny guy um much skinnier when he makes weight but he is huge and Brian
46:00
battle looked wide he looked more filled out he looked he was a bigger guy he was
46:06
able to smush him up against the fence because he was the bigger guy in there so it was really heartbreaking to watch
46:13
that and then just watch him kind of stuff the fight just restrain Randy
46:20
Brown in order to win the fight uh there were a few things that seemed to really
46:25
bother him like the knees I think thinking the clinch um you know stuff like that uh was able to bother them but
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a lot of it seemed like he just had more energy he had more weight and he was able to take the punches better he could
46:38
he could walk through them easier yeah yeah your chin isn't as weak uh I always say that when you uh when you cut weight
46:46
you're taking water out of your brain and then when you get hit your brain's rattling around in there because it
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hasn't there's no cushion you you can't rehydrate the brain as fast as you can rehydrate the other muscles it's
47:00
science trust us I read it somewhere I think I'm pretty sure it's true but uh
47:06
you definitely see that when someone moves up a weight class uh they seem to be able to take a little bit more on the
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chin and uh yeah with with uh with that fight you could tell that one person was
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a little more a little more filled out than the other y so I'm I was frustrated for him especially because it was such a
47:24
close fight and that little difference of weight might have made or break um
47:30
the way the judges saw it yeah I think that's fair who were the judges in in
47:35
the battle uh uh battle versus Brown fight he just had it um that was Michael
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Bell Adelaide bird Ron McCarthy okay and they all scored it or no split uh yeah
47:49
so Michael Bell scored it for brown okay the the second and the third round for brown and the bell was the one that
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scored it for volov too right Michael Bell you you are on the good the other
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list yeah it's it's very rare to get on that list but you're on there my friend you
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are the lone Warrior trying to make judging great again yeah like congrats
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to you we need to make him a t-shirt we do Mike Bell scored this dot dot dot
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perfect we'll get that on the store for you um well there are a bunch of other
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fun fights uh that we wanted to hit on uh dooy Choy looked really good unfortunately against our homeboy Nate
48:38
land wear um he was just able to not let him get off he wasn't able to get his
48:43
rhythm going yeah and man Nate looks so sharp warming up I got to go to his uh his morning ShakeOut and he just looks
48:50
so good so tough he was putting things in together he he has great energy um I was looking forward to seeing him on the
48:57
mic afterwards because that man is like a walking freaking he's he's amazing um
49:03
he just he needs a mic on him at all times but Doo Choy um just looked so
49:09
sharp so fast and he made it really challenging for Nate to be offensive
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yeah um I I don't think anyone expected that approach either no definitely not
49:22
no yeah we expected like a striking match we expected to see Doo Jo boxing which was on display but he uh he
49:31
coupled that with his grappling which just looks so impressive right now he put it together in a way that I haven't
49:37
seen from him he's definitely like um evolved since his last outing uh you
49:44
know some and I really liked his boxing um MMA fighters don't traditionally throw the the right oh my
49:53
God but MMA fighters don't traditionally he knows that I'm not going to yell at
49:58
him now cuz he knows he's just unhinged now he's just doing whatever he wants
50:04
taking over the show no consequences just don't put your headphones on it never again oh my god um what he was
50:13
doing was he was going to the body and to the head of landar with uh with his right Hooks and we don't traditionally
50:20
see that in it's more of like a boxing style it was really good I need to take
50:26
that just that one thing just that yes and I mean he did a lots he did lots of
50:31
other good things but that was my biggest takeaway where I'm like I need I need to use that because that was really nice no I I'm not sure if he uh saw it
50:39
on tape but the way that he dealt with uh land's shell block was really nice
50:44
yeah whenever he would show he would go to the body yeah or straight up the Middle with the upper cut like
50:49
everything he was Landing was just it it seemed like he was chilling in there like I I mean he's famous for he was in
50:56
a flow state yeah he's famous for not really like emoting his emotions when
51:02
whether he's doing great whether he's doing bad but there's this really funny picture of him on land wear's back and
51:07
he's just like I just like God damn like for but
51:15
uh yeah it was a really it was a really awesome fight and to see him evolve like that it's kind of like what you were
51:22
talking about with Ian Gary like I I think dooy Choy is doing it better now
51:27
but we missed a lot of the growing pains because he hasn't been super active so
51:32
we haven't seen him uh you know in his evolved State until now but he's really
51:39
good at putting it all together and I love that he's working with Korean zombie I love that they're building like
51:45
a a big base out there in Korea so it's going to be fun to see what the future
51:50
is for him and yeah I keep thinking I'm going to end up seeing him on one of those Netflix specials
51:57
maybe I started watching the chef challenge have you seen that one no not that one it's good it's good but then
52:04
like the physical 100 tun then like squid game and TV show but but all that
52:10
stuff I I feel like doo Cho is going to pop up on one of those one day I hope crane zombie does I know he's such a
52:15
celebrity I can't believe he hasn't I know well they had um who was it um uh
52:22
homeboy sexyama was on the physical 100 he was so such a g on that thing like
52:28
the when they had to move the big ship and he just took charge and he was like
52:33
coaching them basically it was really awesome to watch so hopefully we see that happen but uh yeah that was that
52:40
was such a a crazy finish by dhoy Choy and and he just looked super happy
52:46
afterwards it it it took away the sting of a Nate landware lost to see him that
52:53
happy and just so good at what he's been working on um we got to talk about Bryce Mitchell
52:59
and Kon Gracie yes oh [ __ ] yeah yeah we do we do the fight that the fans didn't
53:06
Wi on the card but they actually did they did they want card they wanted it they Lust For Blood so Kon Gracie came
53:14
uh off of over a year layoff from fighting and he said that um you know he
53:19
had a lot of stuff to work on and his approach to fighting you know definitely needed to change um but Bryce Mitchell
53:27
made him revert right back to pulling guard jumping guard um and just trying
53:33
to submit from bottom which at one point he he got close but um Bryce Mitchell is
53:38
big strong and Savvy on the ground and he he defended nicely and you know ended
53:44
up ended up getting the the Finish um with a spectacular forearm
53:50
slam reinforced by the forearm slammed to the ground followed by two extra elbows
53:57
um it it was it was pretty nasty it was a nasty knockout it was funny they missed that part because as soon as he
54:03
did it I was like oh [ __ ] that is going to hurt there was a fighter that got a
54:08
slam like that before uh Gerald Harris he was like um he was in balader a few
54:14
times uh LFA all these other yeah you've seen him fight before his his slam
54:20
knockout went viral but it reminded me of that and when I saw him hit the ground and just the placement of that
54:27
forearm is like right against the chin so as soon as you hit the ground that little elbow push of your head into the
54:35
mat just gives you that extra concussive bump yeah and then you're just like [ __ ] it's like being in a car wreck yeah yeah
54:42
it's that shake that you get and so when you followed up with the elbows then it was really clear that that slam hurt him
54:49
and it that part was really impressive uh the fight up until then it was a
54:54
little awkward like the Striking from both of them I'm like oh
55:01
okay all right this is cool but I I thought that Bryce looked better on the
55:08
on the ground against cron than he did on the feet yeah so the the from the
55:14
almost arm you the the thing about MMA grappling uh MMA Grapplers versus
55:20
traditional Grapplers in MMA fights is that it's a lot easier to to defend and
55:27
nullify the attacks just because you have the punches you you don't have to worry about you know passing necessarily
55:34
you can just kind of keep safe you can strike and that really disrupts the the submission attempts of the grappler yeah
55:41
so it was um I I thought that the fight might go that way but it looked like
55:46
Bryce was just really comfortable like inside the guard where CR wanted to be
55:51
yeah you know what cron reminded me of when he would jump guard me
55:58
no I do that sometimes not like that he reminded me of uh that video with the
56:05
kitten when you're playing with his belly and then it goes like every time Bryce got close
56:14
enough to him he would just face Huger onto his body and it was so frustrating
56:20
because I'm like dude or or anytime Bryce would kind of change level and get close to him he just jump on and and I
56:28
feel like there's so much more crafty uh ways to get you to the ground as a as a
56:34
BJJ specialist and he chose the pool guard I felt like it was I won't say
56:40
lazy but it's just it's predictable and there's a lot of people like Ronnie yaa
56:46
for instance who is a who are able to uh just lull you into a false sense of
56:52
security on the feet which he was doing all right you know he was hitting but but then I felt like he just got too
56:58
eager when he saw the guard pull available instead of trying to push
57:04
Bryce trying to move him backwards trying to off balance roll for like a
57:10
evenari roll like something where it was a little less predictable but you're not going to do the thing that puts you in
57:16
guard where you can get hit in the head I understand what you're saying but if you think about it like if you take
57:22
somebody who is you know um a college wrestler a high school wrestler and you
57:27
put them in MMA they're going to go for a double egg every single time you know what I'm saying and you can teach them striking you can teach them all these
57:33
things but as soon as they get hit they're going to shoot and I think it's
57:39
the same thing with Kon I mean he doesn't have much MMA experience so he can you know take time off and he can
57:46
train his his takedowns his Judo his you know maybe you know doing something different his trips um but when it comes
57:54
down to it he's going to revert back to where it's comfortable even though it's not the right thing to do yeah but I'm
57:59
just wondering was that the only takedown he had like not even take he's trained other ones but like in
58:06
his Jiu-Jitsu career did he he's a guard puller did he just pull guard no he's a guard puller okay so that that's kind of
58:12
the funny thing when you think about Styles too like there's a lot of styles that aren't as uh just successful in MMA
58:22
but within the realm of Jiu-Jitsu like if you have someone who is good at the judo throws good at clinch good at foot
58:28
sweeps that type of thing then they have a lot more success getting the fight to the ground than someone who just sits
58:34
down I absolutely agree 100% And I think that's what we're seeing we've seen certain highlevel you know wrestlers but
58:42
they're more folk style wrestlers going to to um MMA and just not translate well
58:50
it just doesn't necessarily work and um you know it's and again a little bit in
58:56
Cron's defense is that he's you know being thrown into the mix at a very high
59:02
level and you know having to Lear the fly it's kind of like what we saw with CM Punk you know we see it with certain
59:08
people that um have a big name have a big following in their own rights in their own You Know Places outside of the
59:14
MMA sphere and then they come in because they have a big name and they're just put into really difficult situations
59:21
that um it may have served them better to to climb the ladder feel bad that you just compared him to
59:29
CM why was that not good reference did I do a bad thing do we need to edit this
59:34
out it great is it do we need to edit this out by the way I love CM Punk CM
59:39
Punk is awesome no but what did I do I would I would say that cron was a
59:46
little more prepared for an MMA fight than CM Funk coming in from his his
59:52
previous career but I do agree it it was a lot uh
59:57
just looking at the records Cron's 5- two and uh uh Bryce is like 16 and
1:00:02
something so just looking at that there's a huge experience Gap uh um he's
1:00:07
being put against these people because he's such a high level in one area so yeah it's going to it's it's rough if
1:00:14
you can't evolve and it doesn't seem like he's he's been able to get away from his style too much even even with
1:00:20
making that mental decision to do everything yeah I wish they would have started him off in like LFA or you know
1:00:26
C like I wish they had started them a little bit better a little easier bit easier of an
1:00:33
organization so that he can learn and grow and evolve and then you know come on to the scene in a big way well he he
1:00:39
did start strong so I think sometimes that can be a blessing in a curse you know when you start strong then you move
1:00:46
up a little too fast and then you get smashed a little bit um well yeah that
1:00:52
that was a we we we talked a lot but uh just quickly our boy Chase Hooper
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fought yes he fought it awesomely he didn't get his Banana Split but he did
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get a good submission one it was really cool to see um make sure to check out
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our interview with Chase Hooper if you haven't before my nose is going crazy
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and uh we also got to interview Buckley we mentioned that earlier but make sure you check that out as well he'll be
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fighting Kobe cinon next weekend as the main event first Main Event so he had a
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lot of fun things to say so you guys should definitely check that out too we also had Eric Anders have a big win against Chris Weidman and we he was one
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of our first interviews one of our first interviews so go back go back a little bit go back into the two stars archives
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scroll won be maybe you'll see a short lots of goodies from it to remind you to
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check it out but yeah it's a it it was a really great card I had a lot of fun watching it um you know sometimes the
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cards aren't fun and this one was was definitely like yeah had a lot of good moments yes yeah so we will be back uh
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