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Two Straws on Fightpass! Episode 29
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Nov 6, 2024
"Papa, what do they chant?" "They are saying: 'un vai moirer'. They are implying the foreigner is going to die." "Do people die in MMA? It is ever so cruel." "No child. That is why we have commissions and USADA." "Will I die one day papa? Am I to 'un vai moirer?'" "Yes child. We all shall. The impermanence of life and mankind's implicit knowledge of his own mortality is both a blessing and a curse. Truly one day we shall all 'un vai moirer'. A measure of a man is how he faces this reality." -------------- Bom dia you guys. Sorry we took a couple of weeks off but Angela had some business to handle. Anyhoo we're back! We talk uncrowned-heavyweight-champ-of-the-world Ngannou, this weekend's PPV, USADA taking the piss and so much more. Tune in! The last 15 minutes is exclusive to UFC Fightpass! Go there!
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what's everyone we are back with another episode of two that was so
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forced I love it though I'm so happy you finally said it again I was trying to make you happy was that my present for
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winning yes it was it's like the least I could do you know yes thank you for whatevering one you're welcome I mean as
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a flying to Brazil to watch you and support you that wasn't enough it was not enough it was not enough okay
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you must what everyone for the next month oh what's up guys we're back we
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had a little Hiatus we kind of uh wanted to do one more before the fight but then just life happened she's such a diva I
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had a lot of things to do I was like this would be the perfect week to do the week before my fight but Jess when to go
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on a little trip so I was like guess we'll see them
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at after the fight hopefully news go I've been so many places I've you went
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to the magical uh land of Salem I did
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I'm still waiting for my present yes I have it it's excited it's in the bag I can't believe I forgot it I really want
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to have like a a gifting to you an an a Ting
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unboxing moment well we can wait till next show unless I need it now I feel
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like it's really important to curse yes she already knows what her what her
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gift is I'm trying to get a short notice fight and I think Jess's gift would
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help Miss no no no I don't want to fight until next year D D D D du but give me a
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fight but I mean if I don't have to get ready for it like I'm already ready already it's fine yeah easy peasy yeah
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it's like a tournament I know no no injuries except your poor little bruised elbow from my
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elbow hurts from hitting her head so hard you know what sucks I rewatched the fight and it it wasn't like a big thing
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like uh they showed the replay in the arena but at home it was just ESPN plus
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it just goes to Commercial and comes back so it's almost like it didn't happen I was really upset about that and
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it it's not like a big moment in the fight like I do a little Spin and her head moves and then you know you kind of
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forget about it so I'm kind of annoyed that they didn't uh show that in the
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ESPN version it was beautiful it was it was and my elbow hurts now from landed
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so you know it landed hard oh she had like one little like red mark and I'm pretty sure it was from
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that it definitely was yeah it was it was I did that really good with my elbow
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um for those of you guys who don't know I fought I mean y'all should know but I fought last week and Jessica was so
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chill chill I mean not so chill so so sweet and coming through for my fight
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week uh she popped in after the way so she didn't get to do the little wake up party videos but but she was still there
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in spirit I was miserable and uh and she showed up for
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fight day and it was awesome I got to enjoy that whole experience with you I
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was happy I had so many people there to celebrate with me after the win because you know like even winning can be kind
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of lonely you know what I mean like like it's a weird one I uh even get it back
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home I was happy to be home happy to uh not have that weight of a loss on my
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shoulders once I got back but I still kind of have that weight of like now
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what you know like isn't that the worst nobody cares nobody cares nobody was waiting for me at the
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airport yeah like where's my welcome home where's my lays like where's my
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parade no it can be really anticlimactic sometimes especially when you're when you're fighting abroad and you have this
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like I don't know time delay you have this long flight home it's just it's
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just kind of a weird thing and it there's always that um that it's like a post-fight depression or post fight
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Blues like it's really hard because there's so much leadup there's so much buildup there's so much focus on this on
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this one fight and then you're like all right well I guess I'll start training again yeah yeah cool luckily um no
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injuries so I can get right back to it I know the last fight was really tough for me oh are you sure your elbow's going to
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be okay my elbow might survive I just can't post on it or else I'll go ow oh
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like ow you're so brave maybe I'll just toughen up and do it toughen up and post
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on my elbow so that that uh that bone callous like they do in Thailand just
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start hitting with a little little bamboo stick build it up build it up yeah I I think that could become a real
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nasty weapon if I build up that callous um yeah man it was it was a blur though
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it was it was a good fight week like uh it's always good when you win uh like I feel like it's hard to like have a
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shitty week and then you win and then say it was a shitty fight week like you still for just cuz you won you're like
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oh it was great but um it was actually a good fight week like I kind of made my
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mind up that it was a good fight week before I fought just so I didn't like go back and be like a [ __ ] lost this
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everything sucks like it was a good fight week it was very chill there was no uh funny business like I know a lot
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of people had bad experiences fighting in Brazil but everything went pretty
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smoothly is I mean we had we had one person who's under our management and he was carried out on a
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stretcher fight night dude I wonder what happened happened I mean it could be as simple so he got food poisoning it could
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be as simple as him just not doing this due diligence of like not brushing his
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teeth with the water not like you know drinking stuff with ice in it like it could have been that eating something
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weird eating something raw but it could also have been some you know funny
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business I know Fighters have said or anyone in sports you know when you go
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overseas it's a possibility because there's money on the line because uh
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betting lines and everything if someone can get an edge and get that Insider not or if another team is sharing the same
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spaces as you it's very possible for them to mess with your stuff and uh they
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had the food out the post Wayan food out in the workout rooms with no security I
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was like I'm not eating that I'm not going to I'm not going to
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risk it who knows what who's up here late in night I I hope to goodness that
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you know everybody was in Integrity during fight week but yeah it's it's a little suspicious and it's it's a
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terrible terrible he was in the in the warm-up room puking his his guts out
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dude he walked in right before I walked out and he looked fine like he did not look fine came on on that stret he
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looked awful he look [ __ ] chill chipper like he was not he was not that
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that poor guy they that they'll rebook him immediately he's under our management so we got the the inside
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scoop inside scoop and the thing with uh food poisoning it'd be really easy to think that it's just nerves going to the
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arena if you felt like a little a little bubbling in the stomach my tum is bubbling uh a lot of times it's just
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nerves you don't want to eat you don't want to be too we down you know you're in fight ORF flight mode so once you get
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there you have all these butterflies in your stomach and it feels a lot like food poison it like before before the
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fireworks start you know before the exist projectile vomiting and from both
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ends uh it feels a lot like fight than for that visual right there that little assist man it feels a lot like fight day
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nerves so I'm sure he was like I'm fine oh no I am
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not but uh aside from that um it was pretty fair judging I thought it was
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probably the best judging I've ever seen there was a freaking draw and a a well deserved necessary draw and I was so
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happy that it happened and your fight was scored very fairly I thought so they
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even gave you like a little extra a little extra 3027 a little like we
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thought you won that I think it was uh one of my old nemes was that your boy
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trying to get back in your good Mr s Mr s the model good for you but I watched
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around I was like it should have been all 33027 there were some moments where I
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was in a little trouble in the first but I definitely had her in trouble for more of the first I thought but I didn't
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expect like even in between rounds um after the first round I didn't think
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that I won it like after the first round I was like [ __ ] cuz all those moments where I was in trouble it felt like
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forever even though when I watched it back it was a lot less time yeah it was just a blip but when I was in it I'm
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like oh no this is I've been in here the whole round like fighting that kamora grip or uh just like kind of backing up
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with the heavy punches coming forward I was like ah I feel like I lost that one um and then when Adam popped in in
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between rounds he's like close round not sure if you got that one but it was it was very even so I felt like that was a
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good boost to my mentality cuz I always over uh overreact to the bad moments
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like I'm just like oh [ __ ] that must have looked really bad and to hear him say that and I know he doesn't [ __ ]
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me in in the in between rounds I'm like oh okay that looked a lot better all right cool so it was kind of nice to
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hear that uh affirmation and then when I heard 3027 I was like oh he was right it could have got
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either I I I thought you had that round but to be on the safe side I was like they yeah Brazil it could it could go
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the other way I felt like the bigger moments were hers even though they weren't taking up as much time as my
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moments of control yeah so I was like I don't know um and there's always that
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moment after like I'm so traumatized like anytime it goes to decision and they're reading off the scores I'm just
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like please don't [ __ ] me please don't [ __ ] me please don't [ __ ] me cuz I've been [ __ ] I've been [ __ ] a lot when
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when I was very confident that I had gotten that fight so um oh what you done
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how do you turn this down a little bit the headphones yeah I think that's all of them just
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need it down a little bit no no no don't touch that that is two so it should be two how's
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that that's better okay there you go just so
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excited very vocal poor little ears very excited about my fight um so yeah that
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was a good experience um no injuries I can pop in again if one of these girls
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fall out um I don't know Friday what Friday After Next ready yeah I can
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I can slide in what up mick I'm good um and yeah it was nice having you there so
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it was cool Sur happy to be there yeah it's a surprise to me too like you know what this doesn't feel
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right [ __ ] it I'm going this doesn't feel right I can't I can't have people yelling
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oh to my friend and I can't combat it with a little let's go exactly I need my
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a little bit of fandom I actually had more brazili you actually won over the
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crowd yay you did at the weigh-ins you won them over you like by far got the
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least amount of of anger and and Brazilian Champs out of everyone uh you
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won them over with with the the clothing yes with your gift the Brazilian crowd
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can be bought guys dude they're easy to buy like uh when Mark dessie walked out
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he was the first fight which I thought was such a slap in the face cuz Mark the cessie is a [ __ ] G but he was first
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fight of the night he walks out the Brazilian crowd booze him at the ceremonial weigh-ins and he's just like
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you know what lean in eat that he leaned into it
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he leaned in you guys booed so hard and they started doing the U he chant and
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man it was really intense and I saw it and I was like I'm not going to do that no no no no no that's not you I don't
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need that extra stress no no no and when he was when he was fighting I was like I
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was you know I'm not emotionally invested with him because you know he's he's not a friend but I'm like I'm still
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you know just I'm rooting for him cuz I like him he's a nice guy he's a nice guy I'm just like we sat in the hot tub next
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to him at the pi he's a good kid you know he's so sweet like oh man yeah I
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was just um I just knew that the crowd would just eat him alive if he lost yes
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I'm so happy he won um like happy for his safety more than anything no exactly
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exactly he like he I mean they were still it was like 50/50 he like kind of turned half of them not all of them yeah
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definitely probably needed a little escort shouldn't have left the hotel yeah just you know no he stuck around the hotel he didn't he was in crutches
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afterwards he ended up uh pulling a a I think he said he pulled his quad in the
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first round um so like I'm not sure like how bad it
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was but he was walking around in crutches after the fight yeah I thought it was from um I thought he started
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limping after there was he was going for like a spinning kick he was positioning himself up to do a spin move and his
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opponent timed it really nicely and got the back of his Cal and I was like yeah I mean it's like a it's probably like a
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so I didn't know if it was from that or another moment but that was the only thing that stuck out in my mind that did
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that happen the first round either the first or the second round yeah and I don't remember what he said
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because I was drinking but for what my drunk brain remembers is
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that he pulled his quad in the first round and and like uh it was just really hard to fight back from that because
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it's just like oh [ __ ] like I want to do so much more you can kind of see it that he was it was taking more energy to do
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the stuff that he normally does in there um but uh he was still managed to get the W against the guy um and I I was
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thinking like it because somebody else mentioned the calf kicks and I remember seeing it but that [ __ ] is a chain
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reaction like you tighten up this it shoots up to here it's like when you get your foot rubbed and you fill in your
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temple you know like the tendons are all connected and I can see his calf muscle seizing up
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and then just tightening up to the point where his quad muscle pulled off of it like you see the uh footage of the Jon
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Jones injury it always seems like a normal movement it's like that time I
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pulled my back reaching down too fast to grab my glove off the floor old it's because I'm old but it's also like
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wasn't warmed up Jon Jones is old too like he's getting up there yeah and all
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the stress that we put on our bodies it just ages us way faster like don't be
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fooled by this face because the body looks like Mr Burns when it comes to I
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mean I think anybody who is watching your fight did not see Mr Burns in that ass cheap that popped out it was pretty
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cute maybe the weigh in it was probably the cutest little cheek cheek wink that
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you've ever seen in MMA it's so much better than those like uh pressing somebody Against the Cage but butt Peaks
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buts oh you're talking about Holly Holmes butt Miss Hol if you're
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nasty Miss Holmes butt cheek will never stay in her shorts ever I am worried
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about huling home if she fights in the new fight kit because man my butt never pops out I was like those things came
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pre-stretched didn't they all the way up I was like wa and then they stayed and
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they stayed my ass ate them it was
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like luckily you have a cute little bubble butt you you don't have an offensive ass
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so that's really that's like the good news and everybody got to see it I am sure that is like screenshotted made
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into a if I think we have to start doing some searches we'll find it somewhere on the internet yes I'm I'm very impressed
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with the UFC because I haven't seen any of those photos yet oh they're out there
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and I think there also needs to now be like a Angela's butt cheek Twitter
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account just the left Ang I think I'm going to make it if it hasn't been made already I'm going I'm going to make it
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nice yes just a left butt cheek that's the only one that likes to be seen
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and I was I was really happy when I watched it back cuz I don't like we were
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in the moment so I didn't even remember that it happened but I watched it back and she actually gave me a second to
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pull it out she did she let me fix my wedgie that she put
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there well I mean you kind of did it to yourself because you did take her down and then her foot and then then this and
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then that like so it's kind of your fault I mean I just want you to take a little responsibility for your actions I just think I would have secured the
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taked down if she didn't Whiplash me from the crack like she literally like her toe got in my shorts she hooked it
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kicked me forward and I was like wa she obviously trains in the gheek she does she was looking for her in and she found
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it that was totally a bully move she just wedged me and stole my lunch money I was like come on but uh thank you
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thank you Miss Gomez for letting me fix my shorts and not flashing all of Brazil
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for another round I mean I wouldn't have complained but yes nice thank you for
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being a nice opponent I thought about uh maybe I should have just evened it up like pulled the other side
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up give myself a little Brazilian bikini they would have loved that they would have loved it like that's our girl
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that's our [ __ ] girl we're claiming her now yeah you're from real aren't
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you the the gifts and the and the thick little Bunda that's ours yeah we got
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that we're claiming it honorary I did get uh talked Portugues a lot too like a
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lot of people are just like and I'm like uh they're like oh you don't you don't
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know what they're [ __ ] saying oh you're American yeah yeah yeah it's
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so uh now
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follow uh so I feel like I could fit into the crowd as long as I don't speak yeah it's it's a Melting Pot we could
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all pass except for Adam oh he he didn't he doesn't get the pass hey there's a
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few I've met a few Brazilians they're like totally Ginger they're they're germanish yeah like there's a lot of
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Germans that that settled in there yeah and they got like totally passing for or
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not passing for Brazilian but then they speak and you're like oh okay you don't
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speak English at all my bad yeah um so yeah it was a good
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trip I'm glad it was a good trip yeah to sum it all up uh what did you
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think about the lwis fight because I didn't really watch it but oh you were watching it was really drunk and don't
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remember I was [ __ ] up but every time I looked at it I was like and that we literally everybody so
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most of the most of the people in the bar we were hanging out with most of like the non Brazilian people oh
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Brazilians well there yeah there were some Brazilians that were over on this side of the bar and all of us
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nons us foreigners were over on the other and every single person was just like he would get this he would get a
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moment would be like hey [Music] a we made a lot of those faces and those
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sounds yeah it it was it was a hard one I know he took that fight on short notice but he was
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fighting a very Beast a very very tough fight whether he was in Camp or not
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um yeah the he guy had his number he did a great job he did the same thing every
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single round took him down got on top um to to drick Lewis's credit he did not
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get finished but it was very very close at lots of different moments and it was
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just he was in very deep water um but yeah hats off to him for stepping up on
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such short notice against such a tough opponent that you know speaks volumes about about who he is as a fighter you
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know no he's he's uh such a gamer and um he never stopped trying which was kind
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of the cool part of watching that from what I remember he like every time it was like ah he's he's still down but
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then he try he still has a chance he try he get up get to the clinch or do something where you're like ah but it
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made me wonder if that was the same game plan for Curtis blades because you have a very different beast in Curtis blades
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like different things that you have to work watch out for I wouldn't be surprised if that was his plan against Curtis Blaze too like he seems Jan ala
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he seems like the type of guy who's GNA try to do that to everyone he comes across well it works yeah it works
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that's his game plan he's good at it he's really good at it yeah and it's always impressive when somebody sticks
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to their game plan and you know what they're going to do to you and they're able to do it to you anyway and he strikes me as one of those kind of guys
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just really powerful really explosive explosive get a lifting good at sitting
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lifting them and sitting on them afterwards yeah that's a handful yeah I
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I see him getting right up there into title contention very very fast yeah I want to
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be surprised and the way that it works out too so one person gets injured his next fight might be a title shot it very
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well could be and I mean he he has a great case for it so I'm interested to see um how the fight this weekend
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goes um with who is it um espanol and and uh pavlovich I think so
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Sergey of it that big old Beast of a scary guy Beast of a heavyweight yeah
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yeah yeah so he he could very well get the winner of that easy yeah I can see that or the loser get that step up we
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shall see is that an interum or no I think they ended up making it an interim yeah yeah cuz of the Jones debacle oh my
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god dude and like going back to that it looks so oh no it's not it's just it's
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just Contender whatever yeah ah interesting interesting and then
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we have uh Yuri proa I'm the worst at saying last names
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I just like I don't even I don't even try at this point they got too many Z's in your name like we're not going to
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[ __ ] say it right you could tell us how to say it we're going to mispronounce it 10 times out of 10 it's
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just it's not our Forte just have fun with it yeah Jerry p
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i mean people can't even pronounce my life last name properly so I mean what are we doing what is it what are we
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doing what which one is it what's what's uh what's guys what's your last name my
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last name p no no what do what do people say the wrong one p right yeah yeah or
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Pena Pena yes I get I get I get Juliana a Pena a lot dude people are always like
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yo you hang out with Julian P she's weird like I I mean she's weird but
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that's not her name and different kind of weird it's
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totally different different kind of weird totally different kind of weird different kind of crazy yes yes total
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opposite sides of the spectrum of crazy actually I think so yeah so get it
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[Laughter] straight um D so a lot has happened
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since we last had our show too much has happened to really like go back but I think the big one that we should talk
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about is Tyson Fury versus Francis ningo because holy crap dude the the the drop
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her around the world yes like I wasn't even watching and then I was scrolling on Instagram and I saw that I was like
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what and then like yo we need to watch this fight it's still on like buy it
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yeah something just turn it on watch it somehow watch it turn it on call somebody yeah FaceTime someone who
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bought it already I feel like that's probably illegal too if you don't get caught it's not
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legal anyway I I procured myself the last few
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rounds in a legal Manner and dude I was so impressed so [ __ ] impressed so on
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paper and you know just just knowing what I know about Francis nanu from what
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I've seen of him in his MMA fights I was like listen and I and I said it on the show I was like he's not going to win
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and even you know and and in boxing like even if it's a close fight they're not
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going to win you know that's just how boxing is it's it's similar but
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different to MMA and you know the the robberies the judging um scrutiny like
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it's just it's a thing um but I was not prepared or even thought that ningo
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would come out the way he did and what's crazy he kept getting better as the fight went on it wasn't just like you
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know you see two heavyweights fighting you're like okay everybody's got a punch his chance but when you're going an MMA
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fighter who's not known for his striking skills going up against the best in the world at heavyweight it's like it's a
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pretty tall order and what Francis did was really impressive and it was really exciting and I mean I took it as like a
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a moral victory for all MMA fighters everywhere because we constantly are put in these positions and I mean you know
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we excuse me I don't even know what that was but are you okay uh yeah I think I
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was tearing up okay chucking on SN yeah that was I was getting emotional totally
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not but it just I mean related what he did I think he you know won the hearts
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of everybody everywhere won the moral Victory I arguably won the fight um he
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just he he showed up in a way that I was not prepared for and I really appreciate
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him and respect him for it was he he achieved greatness in that fight he did
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dude and like he's he's known for a strike in an MMA but the one punch knockout he's known
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for the power he's he's not known for he's not a technician he's not known for
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picking people apart with his hands but he does have that power to just knock someone's head off and I think he was
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able to show it even more because finally he's fighting someone who isn't going to attack his legs you're not
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going to kick him they're not going to try to take him down like he can just sit down on his punches with no fear uh
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with no fear of letting his hands go and he was able to put together combinations set things up like he really did his due
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diligence and had a boxing camp and look like a boxer out there and it's just
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amazing that he was able to do so much and and like yeah it's a bu a puncher's chance maybe him dropping Tyson in the
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beginning was allowing him to just win rounds afterwards like maybe that took
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him off of his game but uh it was a technical fight like he he
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out techniqu them and in a lot of boxers eyes Francis andana won yes so that's
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the most impressive thing because a lot of times when you have a MMA fighter versus Boxer they'll just [ __ ] on the
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MMA fighter skills no matter what happens you know like they'll just like uh the McGregor fight every every boxer
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said that Mayweather was carrying them yes you know and and it's like even if
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that wasn't true which probably was but if it wasn't true you know uh they would
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have still said that and in this fight not one
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boxing person like not one boxer that's commented on it that I've seen has said
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Ty ofy they said you know Fran G1 you know what it is that was an amazing performance by
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him so it I think the most impressive thing is that Francis andano is getting his flowers from the boxing world I
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think that's the coolest part about it and now it's just opening the doors up
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even more for MMA fighters who do have hands well and now it's it's opening up the door for Francis Nano for
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actual like money-making boxing matches like he's he's in the mix now yeah yeah
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he's in the mix it's amazing and to go from you know not from leaving the the
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UFC which is the number one Organization for mixed martial arts in the world like the the Pinnacle where everybody tries
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to get to he was willing to leave and you know play his hand there and look at
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all these opportunities that are coming up for him it's it's incredible that doesn't that doesn't happen to everyone
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it's really amazing how it's happening for him yeah he broke the mold like he didn't he didn't need Dana to promote
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this fight for him you know he was able to make his 10 million at least 10 mil
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plus showing up for this fight and like just the fact that he got in there would
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have been enough to solidify his legacy like he is now $10 million richer and
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not only did he do that but he won the fight in most people's eyes he like
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opened himself up to to even get a rematch if that happens I doubt that Fury will want to do that maybe if he
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wasn't taking it seriously like a lot of people think maybe he would want to get that one back but you know if you want
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it on the scorecards and you can always say I want it on the scorecards then you kind of don't want to do it again you're
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in a position to where you don't necessarily have to yeah you're the boxer you're the champion you're undefeated you can just be like ah I won
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yeah it's it was interesting watching they would always like pant to to yusk who's his next opponent for for the
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heavyweight championship and I was just wondering what was going through that man's mind like please don't please
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don't mess up my pocket please don't mess with with my money please he like
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leaning on the judges like damn he [ __ ] and G up you know trying to influence him um yeah I I didn't even
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think about that because I'm I'm thinking he's probably like oh this is going to be easy fight you
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know but if you knock out Tyson Fury I'd be very surprised if he's showing up for
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that fight yeah is he he's still fighting though right okay how many
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weeks ago I mean how many weeks it's supposed to be in February oh okay so that's not that's still a lot of time to
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recover and stuff I mean not if you get knocked out what commission is going to like approve you unless you're
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fighting somewhere where 3 months I think is enough is it
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yeah I think you it's like a mandatory 60 days of no contact I thought it was
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more than that 60 days no contact when you need to be having contact in a in a
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fight Camp nobody nobody Adar challenging everyone's
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contacting immediately after yeah that's a difficult one yeah uh but yeah potentially it could have like you know
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pushed that that big boxing card that Big money-making fight back it it
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completely put in Jeopardy it was it was a big risk that he took that fight yeah and so I do wonder if he wasn't taking
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it seriously because he knew that he was going to get into Camp straight away and he really didn't want to you know burn himself out or or what have
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you but as you were saying it does open up the box for um MMA fighters and
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boxers alike to you know make these kind of super fights I just wonder what it would look like to cross
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promote that if that would even be allowed it's not you know my my question isn't even to like oh I want to see this
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match up I want to see this match up it's just wondering if the UFC would allow because you always go back to what
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happened to Chuck Liddell when he crossed over to Pride oh happen he went to Pride and he lost yeah the the
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champion of the world went over to Japan and fought and lost but if it's not the same sport it doesn't take away from the
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shine of the Champions the current Champions I think that's the biggest thing because you saw with uh with
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McGregor and Mayweather it's like it's a freak Show fight there's
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money to be made Dana doesn't shy away from freak shows power slap
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um so if there's money to be made in something as much as uh Dana or as much
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as the people in the UFC say no we'd never do that they're kind of showing
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that they would just the fact that they have to answer this question that people are interested um and the fighters are
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obviously interested it's to be made on everyone in everyone's pocket like in the boxing world in the MMA world in the
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UFC if they promote it if they have a hand in it so it's definitely something I can see happening in the future just
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how crazy it's kicked off already outside of UFC like people are tuning in for Every Time Jake Paul fights one of
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our Legends and and fixes it so he can beat him uh I think that's also why this
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was such a big deal uh Francis andano fighting a legitimate boxer and and
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doing really well against them it's a big change from these freak Show fights
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where you have uh some roed out kid roed out celebrity YouTuber who is too young
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for us to know who he is fighting these guys who we grew up idolizing and
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beating them because he has all the advantages and we're just here bitter and making excuses for the fact that he
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can beat them um it's a it's a refreshing change from that even if France Zano didn't do well it's still a
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refreshing change it's the fact that he's fighting a legitimate boxer who is already established in the same way uh
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McGregor fought Mayweather I thought that was something that really boomed MMA because you're bringing all these uh
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fans from boxing who just didn't respect MMA and you're allowing them to see like
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Our Stars for the first time and and get into it get into the characters that we have so uh yeah I I I would be very
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surprised if if the cross promotion thing never happened between boxing and
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UFC mhm like it's so much money to be made people are people love watching freak shows more than they love watching
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regular MMA fights you know it's crazy we we just there's no pleasing people
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they always want more we're sick in the head always want more um speaking of
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McGregor he was making headlines the week before we flew out too because
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usada ended up closing the deal with the UFC and they totally blamed Conor
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McGregor for the reason that they were leaving this was a really this was a
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very sensitive subject for me yeah to be honest because the UFC ended the
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contract with usada because it wasn't working it wasn't you know they they
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couldn't come to terms but they've they've known since my first case with
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es that that they were a problem and that they weren't going to change but it didn't mess with their pockets the way
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it has with you know the McGregor and um so it was it was just it's been
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challenging I've been lots of lots of feelings and emotions have been coming up for me it's been a rough one
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um let it out let it out been a rough one it's okay um yeah so they knew that
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it wasn't working they knew that it was never going to work and yet they they kept doing it until you know one of
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their one of their Stars uh you know fights was put in Jeopardy so finally they said they had enough but it's
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they've known forever that it wasn't working yeah uh I I heard that the usada
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well this is the company line that usada was always going to be done on the first
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but when but because of
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because uh Conor McGregor getting put in a testing pool was such a big news
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headline um usada decided to use that as
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their reason for ending the relationship with the UFC um I haven't really done
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any research on it I'm just saying this is what I saw on Instagram when I was
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trying not to be on Instagram the week before my fight and that's one of the things that was one of the things that
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was so challenging with usad and they they tried to really um the UFC you know
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stepped in initially because the kinds of press releases they do they're not truthful it's not honest they curve the
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truth to fit their agenda to make them look good right it's it and it's not the
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truth the press release that they gave for me was not true and it was really unfair and it
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completely skewed people's views of me and then and my reputation and then your case actually led to them not having
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press releases right yes cuz I don't think they did that with anyone after you no I was you were the sacrificial
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lamb I was I was yes that was bad of them how dare they you're welcome from
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everyone yeah now you don't hear about it I think people M up and I think
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people don't realize that happened because you still hear about people getting popped by usada but it's always
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the fighter that releases that information so it's your own uh you it's
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your option to say that that happened and the second time um I was able to or
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the UFC was able to negotiate what they would say and they were able to proofread it because it was such an
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issue in the past with what they were doing to people's reputations and and not being completely upfront and
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truthful yeah it's really uh it's really upsetting uh I had like a little um
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thing that flared up on a test uh about this time last year and I was notified a
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week before my fight and I was about to fly out and they're like hey we got this
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irregularity and one of your tests and like the way that they worded it was so
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hard to understand but basically it was saying that the amount that I tested for
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isn't enough for me to get popped for something but it was
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still something that they need to make aware and it was so weirdly worded that
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I thought my fight was going to get canceled oh no the second time that I had um an interaction with them a
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suspension with them was for that same letter but they pursued it with me ah okay they didn't let it slide because
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technically it's my second offence so they're like oh yeah so it was the same thing yeah
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well they they pursued it but I had to send in all like my prescription
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medicine and and supplements and everything that I was taking luckily I was only taking one uh prescription at
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the time and I wasn't taking any supplements so it was easy to track it down and they were able to find the
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thing in in the pills that I was taking um but it wasn't like something I needed a Tue for they were it was just like a
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tra amount that was getting mixed in in the pills in the factory you know so so
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like I Lu out because I had evidence but it was actually hard to track down
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because it was the test was taken weeks ago and I already run through that bottle like that and I don't keep old
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pills laying around you know so so I was lucky I was able to track down the batch
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number and actually provide evidence where they were able to research it but
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that's not always the case and like for for your instance like if it was my
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second offense and I didn't have that bottle of pills then I would have been up [ __ ] creek again because yeah there's
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no way to say oh I wasn't doping I just there was just a trace amount of something and I feel like the people who
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do get popped and they have the evidence I always feel like they keep a
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bottle of something that they know is Tainted laying around just in case like I'm taking my steroids I'm going to
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sprinkle some in my protein powder real quick just in case usada catches me I
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mean I don't think that's far off I think people that I think people that are oh hello hey buddy if it's top team
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that's what they did that's exactly literally when I was working this out in my head I was literally thinking about
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to because you like go to go where the money is and that's where you'll find
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that kind of stuff you'll find the secret lab yes exactly with a doctor on staff m
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the little checking your levels little Med Spa that you know checks you in every morning make sure you're good it's
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so like it's a thing it's definitely a a business like uh I I forget what I was
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watching but it was something where they were talking about how uh I guess the Russian Olympic teams they would oh yeah
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yeah they would yeah they would like cheat as a country like they would they would teach them how to dope they would
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check their vitals check their blood make sure everything is getting cleaned out properly it was Icarus right uh yeah
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yeah it was and I'm like yeah they're definitely doing that here they're doing that like if if you
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weren't trying to win you wouldn't be doing that like if there's if there's a tri true way of passing the test then
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people are doing it like they must be especially when you have the capital to do that um so yeah it sucks well the
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positive thing um that is hopefully going to come from the switch is that it's
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um it's still technically not UFC partied but they've they that's what
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they've hired on this like big scary FBI guy I was talking to Donna marcolini and the and the bus on the way to the
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airport from South Paulo and she was assuring me that they were going to take you know all things into consideration
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like you know tainted supplements are not grounds for a 2-year suspension
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they're just not where you saw a wooden budge with a lot of these these sanctions everybody was treated equally
44:29
there was it was black and white there was no gray area in a lot of these instances they needed to be judged Case
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by case not just you either are or you aren't because that's not that's not the
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truth are they still going to have the snitch claws you never know I mean I don't see
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why they wouldn't I don't see why they wouldn't dude the snitch Claus is so shady
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basically you could just say oh yeah what's whoever was uh getting injected
44:58
with you you just rat them out and then you get the fight next week and so that's so that is um that's the case
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with like uh EPO because it's hard to test for and it's so expensive to test for that you would only test somebody
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who you knew was cheating you wouldn't just like you know throw a little little
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shot in the dark and be like oh yeah or you wouldn't test everybody cuz it's so expensive to test for this um
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and yeah so the people that have gotten busted for it were actually like ratted
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out someone told on them yes and somebody got away Scot free because they ratted and I have I have my theories as
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to all of this I'm not going to talk about that should we talk about it in during the break I don't know I don't
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know that's like I don't know if I want to do that well we'll see if just talks
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