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Two Straws on Fightpass! Episode 27
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Nov 7, 2024
This week we're talking UFC Noche, Bellator 299 and UFC: Fiziev vs Gamrot. That means we're talking horrible cuts, prayer, Satan, contentious decisions, nourishing the young with the blood of the old and Angela's fully-realized afro. The last 15 minutes of Two Straws is exclusive to UFC Fightpass so get on over there.
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[Music]
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all right what's up everyone welcome to another episode of two straws
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oh man um I feel like we're really far away I feel like we're a little bit far away
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too we're a little further than normal hold on we gotta don't I I don't know if you want to do
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this right now this is wait uh no I got it okay just move the chair that makes sense yeah hey there you are I was like
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around the bend and now I'm right here
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yes oh I gotta make you watch Color Purple I haven't done that to you yet no color
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purple have you ever seen it no yeah why did I need to watch it there's a scene that me and my friends always uh reenact
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when we're like feeling really far away from each other we go that's like the thing that the two
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sisters would do or they weren't were they sisters but the two best friends would do whenever they felt far away and
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then one gets has to leave the house it's a really sad scene and the whole time she's like me and you us never
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apart is it yeah you would cry the entire movie right now you need to watch
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it like right after have you seen cocaine bear yet no okay you need to watch color purple and then cleanse your
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emotional palette with cocaine bear because it's literally just a stupid movie but yes all right anyway MMA right holy [ __ ]
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oh my god oh a couple weekends I mean yeah they're a couple weekends but I
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feel like on Saturday was just a really it was an intense an intense thing with
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uh Bellator in the UFC yeah lots of great Bellator fights like that kind of put it over the top last weekend it was
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mostly just UFC stuff happening but like a really controversial Main Event
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um a lot of like uh people making a big deal out of UFC Noche is going to be
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like a recurring thing now so I thought that was pretty cool but yeah last week this yesterday
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had so many finishes so many uh brutal finishes and um yeah let's talk about it
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what do you want to start with some what the [ __ ] Mama yes you know I love those yeah oh
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WTF oh what the [ __ ] um I think the first thing we should
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mention is just like how heartbreaking it was to see that Main Event in that way in UFC man yeah it's hard because
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you work so hard and you get there and you have these like high expectations and you know on what you're going to
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perform and all this visualization and then for someone to to lose in that way due to an injury that wasn't you know it
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was self-inflicted it was self-inflicted and it's just weird I still haven't heard exactly what happened but we think
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it was a knee it could have been I mean ACLS are fickle these days so it could have been a an ACL on the way out and as
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he threw the kick it just it just gave out I mean yeah I think it was definitely something that had built up
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from before the fight like for sure before the fight but all those scrambles all that crazy movement that's an easy
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way to just give your ACL that final last like if it's Holding On by a string
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it's like that's it I have nothing left to hold on to and that's what happened I mean in uh
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in my fight versus Vienna I don't I don't have any idea how it happened but she tore her ACL and I'm like yeah
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totally intentional I meant to do that but yeah that's what you get for trying to wrestle me it got that hip bone on
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your on your knee well a weird thing happened on The Ultimate Fighter when I was drilling with Justine and and I tore
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her ACL doing doing a warm-up sweep it was you know I was down on the ground she was standing I did a little push
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pull I'm a very gentle gentle training person and very bendy and flexible
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completely snapped and I mean it was again it was on our way out but I just I
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was heartbroken for her you know it you go all that way and you have all of these these emotions this like
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expectation to perform you know and there's just a lot writing on a lot of emotions attached to it and to to not be
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able to to do what you came there to do yes it's heartbreaking in a little context for the Justine thing she was
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running every day in sweats like in in sauna suits she was on the bike uh when
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she wasn't at the the gym The Ultimate Fighter Gym training so she was putting a lot of stress on her knees and like
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that's what we do in fight camp we put a lot of stress on our ligaments on our knees we have a monster weight cut we
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rehydrate and we have 24 hours to get those ligaments back to being flexible
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and pliable again so even though it's a freak injury it's not surprising you
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know what I mean like uh Poor Tom aspinal he had to wait so long in a fight where a lot of people were
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expecting him to be it it was his like come out fight I think he was fighting Curtis blades and he stepped back after
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throwing a kick or something or just step funny and his knee exploded and it took him a whole year to get back and
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now he hasn't dropped the steps so I feel like hopeful for physio he's not
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like get old wait he's not young he's not old he's not like Glover you know like if
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Glover time if Glover destroys his shoulder or his ACL or something you're like
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okay bye nice little nice little segue to retirement yeah you're a great coach again awesome you know like keep doing
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that yeah he is so good at coaching you have something to fall back on yeah but um but because he's still young he still
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has a lot of momentum I feel like he's gonna come back stronger afterwards definitely hopefully hopefully hopefully
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because that had that had all of the makings for a really exciting fight in the way it started the way it started
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was incredible so I you know it's it's the same kind of heartbreak that um Calvin cater experienced with one of his
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men if I main event fights in the Apex yeah which one was that he did like a jump knee or he did some sort of jumping
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movement and when he landed his his knees yeah yeah it's so crazy how that happens and like poor Calvin kater I
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feel like he's had the worst luck with matchups of opportunities or just like freak injuries he's he's always been
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right there at the top could win could be anyone at the top but then some [ __ ] happens so gotta feel the
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frustration for athletes uh who just keep getting that unfortunate thing to
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happen to them and not being able to fight the fight that they want because it's always like it's always even if
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after a loss if you know that you did the best that you could or you know that
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you went out there and just performed as much as you can then it makes the loss a
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lot easier to take and I hate when even though I guess it's fair I hate when a
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freak injury foreign
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[Music] floor screaming make sure make sure it's
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not a TKO just going off and it's fair I mean I totally get it yeah I love that
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he like that's where his mind went immediately dude he's trying to protect his brand yes no but I was like oh my
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God I don't know if I'd be able to think like that in that moment but without your leg yes
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my foot is twisted all the way but that wasn't a TKO make sure they say my foot
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was twisted the other way it needs to be like an asterisk there uh so that that
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was really heartbreaking but um the co-main event holy crap we had
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thug nasty Mr Bryce Mitchell against 50k Dan ige and that that was a fight I um I
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feel like I need to put all his takedowns on just like a a playlist like
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a high life so I can just ingrain it into my head because the way that he goes first off is just so unique
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like he'll go for something start to lose it and then jump for something else and he just has this great flow when he
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grapples he he's like a dog with a bone yeah like he he goes for it he knows what he wants he's very intentional with
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it it's really impressive how he comes up with these takedowns kind of seemingly like they're not out of
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nowhere but you just don't think that he's potentially going to get them and he always he always gets to the ground
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he always gets good position um it's it's really impressive how he does it it is but the one thing that
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kind of bugs me and I know why already but I well there are multiple things
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there were multiple things but we're still talking about the fight the one thing that bugged me was I I
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think a couple judges gave 30 27 to Bryce and I didn't agree with that yeah and I felt like the last round was his
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strongest so that was definitely his I thought it was like maybe one in three went to Bryce Mitchell
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um but I felt like they didn't take into the take into account the amount of damage that happened in the beginning of
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the round yeah because it was very much uh just like a split down the middle fight in in one round Bryce took him
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down with two minutes left and then he was just on them the entire round but those other three minutes that they were
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on the feet ige was piecing him up he was Landing good strikes he had amazing box and he closed his eye up and it
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feels like that wasn't represented in the scorecard I I have to agree with you it was it was kind of a I would have
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given Bryce the first round definitely down the second round so when it came down the third I didn't know which way the judges
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were gonna go because we're just not we're still unsure about the criteria of the judges so Dan did more on the feet
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he landed great shots and then Bryce had the end of the third round which left
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the impression to the judges but he didn't do damage yeah I mean it was crazy control he made he made it a
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really tough night for Dan and had talked to Dan with his you know getting back up when he could and staying safe when he was in vulnerable position while
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Bryce had control but it was challenging because you can kind of see how the
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judges could have gone the other way had they you know it's just still really it's still really unclear what exactly
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the judges are looking for and I'm not I'm not mad at the decision I thought I
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thought it was fair but I also had an argument for it to go the other way yeah if that had gone the other way no for
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sure I I felt like egay's just aggression I felt like the
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placement was the reason why it was so heavily on Mitchell's side but I don't
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think that should be the case like we always talk about finishing the round strong and that's that's more so knowing
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how the judges are going to sway if you finish the last minute of the fight strong the last 30 seconds of a fight
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and you're getting your ass kicked the entire round you might win that round but should that be the case and it's
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it's a tough one because every time they restarted ige was winning again he was on top he was he was not on top but just
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Landing the better strikes Landing the better combinations and then Bryce as soon as they hit the halfway mark he
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would start getting his takedowns going and just control control and yeah like I
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I do think it was a really even fight um didn't know which way it was gonna go but it always makes me wonder when I see
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a scorecard like that um how fair that was for the other fighter yeah yeah
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um I guess you could say he won via Lamprey oh
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very fitting I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to write that one oh my God how funny was Michael Bisping
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when he said we're gonna let Dan pray for America
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real quick oh uh Bryce yeah no Bryce said that to
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to Michael business yes yes it was just that whole speech no I knew
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you would have something to say about that it was so oh my goodness you know what I've I've got to say listen I I
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love and appreciate his what he was trying to do with you know paying don't
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give me that look pain offering to give a check bubbers uh glad you're gonna take the
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set with us God was looking over I said just but you
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tried to take it down listen it sometimes it's it's the execution that just you know makes you like hold your
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breath a little bit but he he had a nice you know gift for ige and that he
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was going to donate to the cause for Maui and then he you know went on to one of his conspiracy theory tangents and
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you know Dan is is also a very you know kind gracious man so he's loud he loud
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Bryce this platform I thought it could have been I saw it as a nice moment it
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was it was really nice because it was Dan ige he had so much Poise in that moment he
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he prayed with him he he treated him like a member of his church like he he
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felt for Bryce Mitchell in that moment but with all the drama that's been going on
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circling him with him and his ex-girl he was breaking through Windows trying to
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get his dog back uh sicking the public on this a lot this girl who
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I mean I that's one thing I wanted to uh address it's really unfortunate when
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someone with the following attacks someone with zero uh public
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presence you know they're not a celebrity it's really dangerous because you don't know the full story you don't
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know uh what was going on with those two and it
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does seem like Bryce Mitchell is just on one like he's he's deep into conspiracy
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theories he's um just very uh emotional
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um it seems like he needs to be talking to people like talking to some professional help and and we always talk
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about mental health um when it's too late you know and you're
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definitely seeing the signs with Bryce Mitchell I have a brother who's uh who's schizophrenic and and it really is scary
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to see someone in a public space just giving all these signs of that he's he's
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deteriorating mentally and it doesn't seem like he's gonna have people get the
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help that he needs um and we've seen that with a lot of Fighters that we love we've seen it with Diego Sanchez we've seen it with
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um um uh the American Cycle you know like we have uh a Bully Beatdown guy you know
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we have Jason Miller we have a lot of people that we hold dear to our hearts that you know you see them start to go
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crazy and you're just like oh they're just being themselves you know and he was a character already but now it's
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starting to get a little dangerous so I feel like that moment after the fight
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was kind of a red flag like somebody needs
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to sit down with Bryce and just you know let them
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figure some stuff out you know because I don't know though what did it look like to you because I I kind of have
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different um different well yeah you have your experiences perspective on it so I'm
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gonna project a little bit here but yeah I don't know it just seemed a little a
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little too raw and too emotional to not be saying that something else is going
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on with him it's hard I'm not a doctor I can't like I can't diagnose someone but I understand your your feelings and your
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concern and your the amount of care that you know you put into those kind of um displays that you see I I don't know
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that to be true about him where he's at but I know he's a very passionate very sensitive human and he has very strong
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beliefs and convictions and I think that my biggest concern or red flag would be
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just how he's using his platform because again I don't I don't know what anything about him I've never spoken to
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him or anything like that but what I see projecting can be dangerous because somebody with
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that kind of following that kind of influence you know we we talk about stuff with like Sean O'Malley we talk
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about stuff like that like you have to be careful you have a sense of responsibility when you have a platform as big as they do and I think that but
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he thinks he's doing the right thing well and I mean most you know I I don't think he's doing it maliciously he's
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again he's very passionate he has very strong convictions and beliefs but it's it's a challenge when you have that big
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of a falling and you can sway people into supporting you that's where it gets
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dangerous for me I I don't know the state of his mental health so I can't comment on it but it does it does
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concern me with how he's using his platform yeah and I I don't know what exactly can be done
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about that from from me or from other people but I would hope the people around him could talk some you know
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some sense into him just have a conversation you know because it gets dangerous I wonder what
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happened to that girl's tattoo shop I wonder what happened you know it's a small town and people get um very riled
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up and very passionate about the people in their Community yeah I wonder what happened to his dog that thought was freaked out you know I
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think that video was actually a few years ago oh okay yeah okay so it's uh
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yeah it's just really scary to me to see um
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to see someone going down this path and everyone just laughs you know and then
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it is funny like I laughed but but I I do feel like the people who are
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closest to him I'm hoping that they're keeping an eye on him and making sure if he needs someone to talk to if he needs
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um to reach out and and does need to get some help eventually like he he has the resources to do it because the mental
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part is the last thing that Fighters focus on we feel like we're so tough and
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that we're so mentally strong already that we don't need to talk to people we
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don't need psych psychic psychiatric help um and I think
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a lot of times that could have saved a lot of people from going down a dark path and that's like from the people
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that I've I've met in the industry who have gone down that road and things
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happen badly it always starts with just a ton of conspiracy theories and thinking everyone's out to get you and
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feeling like you have nowhere to turn and then you know something bad happens and so I'm hoping that doesn't happen
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with him um but that was that was quite a scene like
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it was it was it was a big scene so much that Bisping was like nah we're good we're done he had to get out of there
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because it's it's uh that's not what the UFC is trying to keep a professional you
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know space and that was not the platform for
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for him to do it on for that that's you know post fight press conference yeah post fight interviews it's it's hard to
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do and I mean it's really hard to gather your thoughts and you know speak
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very very clearly when you're in such a heightened emotional state especially after a fight I mean you know you've
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just been through it in the octagon and then they want you to speak clearly concisely and like make your point it's
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it's really hard it's there's a lot of emotion there's a lot of going on there's just
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it's a challenging place to to interview a fighter and I know everybody wants that like emotional reaction shot but it
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may not be the best for the fighter well I think he's still sounded like he does
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before fights I don't think that's much different uh it's just this is for everyone to see
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anyone who didn't dig anyone who didn't watch the interviews now you're seeing uh what this guy's about and it's
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becoming just like kind of uh it's just gone down it went from like kind of a
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fun like oh look at this guy he's this fun character to literally he the devil's the devils are
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everywhere and and they started the fires and and these are these are things that people who have mental illnesses
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say you know like I don't I don't I'm not saying that he's mentally ill but I'm saying like this these are red flags
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they I don't know needs to be addressed we might cut this I don't know
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good it's it's a little scary to me and I'm just speaking from experience so hopefully he's fine his ex Girl is Fine
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his dogs fine uh Dan ige did a great job um just being there and being a good
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Christian I felt like in that moment um and hopefully uh Bryce is able to go
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on and chill out a bit well I mean another fight on the card
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that um that raised that raised some some flags and concern was the fight
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before that which was Marina Rodriguez and Michelle Waterson and the consensus
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was that it was stopped late yeah I mean I saw Rodriguez put on a showcase
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she put on a clinic yeah of knees and elbows and and clinch I think you would
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be you would appreciate it give it the gnaw with your background yes yes it was a beautiful display I I think it could
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have potentially been stopped but also You could argue that like okay he gave
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her every single chance and then you know stopped it at a good point yeah I I mean sometimes people have a
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conversation with the ref uh and say hey I don't care what
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happens if I start fighting back when you tell me to fight back don't stop the
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fight and a lot of it and there was she was fighting back every time she got
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hurt so that I think that's why it took so long for the referee to finally jump
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in because every time it looked like she was about to crumble from strikes she
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would shoot and it would be a good shot you know it almost get uh Rodriguez down
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um she she'd clinch up she'd do something try to throw a hook or something to show that she was still in
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the fight so I think um a lot of times when that conversation is had and they give you the fighter gives you just
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enough to keep it going then you're like all right this is what they want um and I do think uh a lot of times when
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you see a girl who's bloodied up people get emotional about that but I think uh
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the main thing I was looking at was her body language and every time she'd get
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hit with that knee to the guts and like kind of crumble I'm like oh they should stop it but then she come back so
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I'm not gonna say I wasn't mad that it kept going uh but uh it was it was an amazing
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performance by Rodriguez um Michelle's gonna get credit for her toughness because she's stuck in there
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for as long as she possibly could um but yeah it was it was a really great
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display of Muay Thai and I like what uh her people said or what she said at the end where she was like we wanted to get
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back to our roots and get back to like that violence that violent side and
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that's where the elbows and knees are there and it's something I've been trying to do too you know so being able to see that on display especially
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against someone that I fought someone who I feel like if I was just a little more violent I could have had a similar
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performance then that'd be great but uh you know I'm not mad at Michelle Waterson I think
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she put on a super tough performance and she's stuck in there as long as she could but uh I will
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have this moment to thank her mother for keeping me from getting submitted in
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my fight against Aaron because she messaged me before my fight against Darian and said did I tell you this no
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so thank you thank you Grandma Watterson for messaging me and telling me that the
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UFC wants to cut me so that's why they gave me Dern and she's gonna submit me
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and I'm gonna get cut so when I was stuck deep in that arm bar I
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saw her face oh my gosh like no it's not
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gonna happen damn I didn't know that yeah so just
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putting it out there um maybe I'll be able to get that rematch after after my fight after
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Waterson Hills up uh we'll see what's next for her but that's like uh her last win
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um was me so she's what lost four in a row four in a row
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she's like uh I think six and one or one and six in our last seven so
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yeah we'll see what happens with her um she still ranked though so it's always
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weird when you have someone who's on a loose drink that's ranked in the top 15.
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so I don't know what do you think's going to go down I mean I think she's a fan
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favorite I I don't think she'll get cut I think that she'll have a place as long
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as she wants to uh she's one of those kind of fixtures in the division so um I mean I could be wrong but that's
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just how I see it yeah that's just how I see it I mean you know she's what 37 38 yeah I think 37. yeah I mean
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she may be on a skid but she's still you know she's still improving I've still seen you know new wrinkles to her game
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it looks like she still wants to be in there so you know hopefully she'll just keep doing it for as long as she wants
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to and and on her terms if you know people telling her that she needs to
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retire which is it's something that I really I just it's it's none of your business yeah yeah Miss Watterson
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your mom night no I mean I I hope she heals up and you
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know I think she's in a place where she can do whatever she wants yeah she wants to keep fight if she doesn't don't
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that's a rematch you want to do right I always forget that you guys got an Invicta so what I've always wanted is
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for the UFC to have 105 Division I want to be um the one of the tough coaches to
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introduce the division oh wow on the other side of it so we get our rematch at 105. oh that's always been my dream
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that's what I've been manifesting don't know what's gonna happen but it's always been a dream of mine I mean have you pitched it yeah I have oh okay they
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thought it sounded super cool but oh cool yeah yeah there you go you should remind them yes I will yeah
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um yeah just just one of my one of my dreams yeah
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jeans can be reality another cool thing that happened on this card was we had
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Christopher leiben make his judging debut with the UFC he's been on the
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local circuit he's been judging a lot of you know California fights and he finally made it to the Big Show
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um the first fight of the night he got a lot of grief for the way he scored it oh no
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yeah absolutely immediately people came out so it was um Vidal
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and um what's her name um Rendon okay Rendon oh yeah I missed
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that one so they were uh USBS UFC espanol was pushing her a lot because
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you know she's a native and she um
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their fight was It was kind of even they were kind of throwing the same things uh
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I think renin was kind of coming out ahead at the end of each round so I mean
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I could have seen him giving it to her as they did but lieben gave two rounds
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to Vidal and people were just about it yeah okay interesting yeah it
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was it was it was a pretty even fight it was it was well matched for the level that those girls are because they are a
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little bit Greener yeah at and they're in bantamweight so I know that they're trying to you know feed
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that division but it was just it was exciting that you know a former fighter
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like lieben was going to come in and be a judge and he was not received very well initially
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that's kind of what happens sometimes you know you try to score according to what you read you might be scoring
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better than the people who've been doing it for a long time because you're a new person you're trying to follow the rules
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and then everyone else scores the way everyone usually scores so you kind of
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have to get in there and just fill out the process and eventually people will
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forget you know people are only mad for a second a second and I mean it was the first time so they they forgot I'm sure
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they forgot about it yeah before a bunch of angry tweets went out oh for sure the tweets they're nobodies you know they're
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half of them are Bots it doesn't matter uh remember um I think I'm not sure if it was his
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first time but I I remember when Tony Weeks that a boxing referee he scored a
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fight at the Apex for I feel like it was the first time he scored MMA and people
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got really upset because he was the one judge who gave one guy a 30-27 and other
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judges gave the other guy 29-28 or something like that and uh people were
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really upset about that but as I was watching the fight because I was there live I was like yo like I'm sitting
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right behind him and it kind of looks like homeboy is winning every round but you know it was a really close fight and
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because of the angles because of the circumstances the other fighter was more
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popular um the one who he scored against then you can get more heat for a score that
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might have been kind of fair you're just not in it you're just not uh I guess as used
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to it or as as as these other guys so you're gonna get a little [ __ ] because you're the new guy
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so um I think eventually he'll find his Niche and people will respect his score
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and we he was the one judge that scored for Wilson he was the one judge I wasn't
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yelling at on the way out the one judge you got it right at cage Warriors not mad at you but no
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you you're my God so I I think uh I think the more you do
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it the less people are looking for you to mess up it's kind of like with how we were talking about Laura Cinco she is a
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woman so there's that uh Beaker on her where you're waiting for her to slip up you're waiting for her to say something
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or get overly emotional or something like that just because she's new we've never seen this before and the same
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thing happens when you have someone like Chris lieben who's a fighter who is you know one of the first big names to do
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this kind of step and change the career path into judging so you're going to
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look at him a little harder than you're looking at somebody else absolutely I'm happy he's
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there um but yeah I think I think it's awesome I want to see more more Fighters post
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career get involved with the commissions with the judges I want them all to take
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over yeah there's always that worry of uh biases though right when you're when
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you're looking at that but I mean that's everywhere I mean we're we're all human no matter if you were a former fighter
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if you were a coach if you were this if that like whatever it is like we're all human and we all have a certain like
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range for air and emotion attached to decisions you know
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it is what it is it is it is it is what it is and I prefer a biased judge to
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know what they're looking at than to not know what they're looking at because at least then they know when they can screw
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me but they can't
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kudos to could leave in did not see that did not see any of that any of the fights that you've scored you've been
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very professional very good with your Scar and so good job
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oh man um anything else happen on last night's card that you wanna
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no discuss no I think we can move on okay one thing I really want to say is
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never mind Brian battle is adorable did you see his fight yes I did did you
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see his post fight presser yeah cringed he said yummy like oh yeah
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I was like stop it it is well this is because you're from the West Coast okay Brian battle is very
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much an east coast boy he is I just remember Biz being just kind of like
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I loved how this being responded though he's like I do will know what you mean yes yes I do know what you mean but I I
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thought that was adorable look look I'm from Maryland like everyone talks like that there so and especially when you
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have the camera on you you get a little nervous maybe you're hype from the fight it's like you're um or your like yeah
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yeah I mean that's like that's our um I've never heard you say that before because I'm a water or wash white washed
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by you people out here mostly Adam but
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I say like uh that well yes they like now and everything because I've never
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I'm over here yeah because you met me on the west coast yeah but that was like oh [ __ ] oh I'm
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not oh no what are you doing yeah quit touching Mike stop it stop it yeah okay
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I'm back no but I I met you fresh you know well when you came to the east
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coast and I did not experience any of that it's also kind of country it's kind
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of country so because I lived in New York for so long in that country no I'm
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saying it's black people aren't on horses in the country your mama is yeah that was after I went to college
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whatever because she had space now now that all these [ __ ] kids out
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of my house yeah I can go get a bigger house with space I love your mom yeah
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but um no it's like more of a like a southern thing so Maryland's right on the Mason Dixie line and Mason Dixie
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yeah Mason Dixon yeah yeah that one same thing is Mason Dixie on the east coast
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is it I don't know say the wrong thing but yeah Marilyn's
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right on that line so anything above that you have to start like toning down
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your twang anything above the Mason Dixie line yes I wish I was in Dixie
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hey oh my goodness all right anyway this has been a history lesson
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and a cultural lesson you're welcome anyway
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um yeah Brian battle is and he made his own debut that was the debut there mean
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and mean okay he was fighting at 185. well that's what he won The Ultimate
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Fighter at oh okay right and dude he's just been like knocking people out so I was really surprised that he got a
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submission today yeah or yesterday yeah he's pretty impressive I think he's going to be someone to uh look out for
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in the future I mean you you hope that that's what the ultimate fighter is you know putting out
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there yeah but a lot of times they have these kind of floppy Seasons where you know it's just
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to fill the need for an ultimate fighter that year and so a lot of those guys end up you know getting cut or never really
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busted onto the scene but um yeah it's pretty cool Franco good job pretty cool
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um yeah so I think we need to talk about UFC Noche we do but should we talk about
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uh balladar first oh or we could save it for downloadable content we're almost there
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yeah all right we'll talk about no chain how did you score the main event
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I thought Grosso won but I didn't score it the way Mike Bell did nobody did had he not scored it that way
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had it just been a 10-9 umchenko would have won yeah so that's the crazy part but
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I don't know I thought it could have been a draw like I thought like I thought that each
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each opportunity to capitalize both of them did it they did it well they made it a really back and forth battle and I
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thought it was really hard to pick a winner I think there needs to be more draw rounds because of that because if
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you look at something like a a verdict MMA they do these um online polls and people are acting
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like they're judges and they score 10 9 10 8 or whatever for each round
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um there were a few rounds that were split right down the middle and if judges would acknowledge that and just
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go okay this is a nine nine round it's okay or 10 10 round whatever it is that
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that would be a draw round I feel like that would be way better than just flipping a coin and picking a winner
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whoever I don't know plus people and that's that's where the biases come in that's where uh it might be weird to
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have like an old coach or an old fighter on a scorecard that's a really big deal
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because they might have trained with them in the in the past or they know somebody who knows somebody who is
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really good friends with them but uh I mean it happens in the judging world too that's why Douglas Crosby is no
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longer with us may may he rest in peace no he's alive but
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he's just he's just not doing just UFC anymore yeah not for now at least
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um but uh you know there's there's those inherent biases so when it is really really close
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and you can't tell which one it is you just pick the person you like and I feel like that's where I picked Grosso
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because I'm like I like those knees I liked what she was doing and in the Striking Department I'm gonna pick
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Grosso for round four you know and and somebody else might have seen what chefchenko was doing well in round four
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and picked that instead so uh I feel like it should be okay to make around
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the draw around because it's literally like they were both doing things really well and I can't see who was the better
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aggressor in that round I think that there should be draw rounds
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um I I did and [ __ ] to chefchenko although the fifth round was really questionable because she went for that
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head and arm throw Grasso slipped out the back yeah and then she
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put herself into a really tough position um she ended up coming on top towards the end of it but again with with the
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control time versus her striking it's just it was just so hard to make a decision so I thought that was the round that could have potentially lasted for
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her um I do agree that there needs to be more draws I I'd have be happy to see
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people get draws instead of losses on their record when you know they could have potentially won it just it does so
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much to People's Bank account to their fight career path it just does so much
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damage and I feel like that would be a great way to to mediate it yeah look at
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uh Rodriguez she has like two one or two draws on her on her record I feel like that would have really hurt her case to
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be up in the top five if they ended up being losses just because you know someone saw something that they liked
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better from the girls that she was fighting and they were they were kind of weird draws like I thought she lost them
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maybe they were in Brazil maybe it was her hometown you know again it's the
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human it's the bias honestly I think it was just fair and I think I'm not used to seeing a fair uh score be made but
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those draws I was like you know what I think it's fair I didn't expect it but it's fair
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um so I think that needs to happen more often uh just because like you said it's
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better for the fighters there's no point of coin flipping and picking a winner
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when no one did enough to really win so I I really
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um I really encourage that and I think that would have taken a lot away or that would have made a lot of a lot less
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people angry with this fight where a lot of people would just split down the middle like they didn't know who won
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um including Grosso fans including chefchenko friends like everyone was just like we don't know we're we're just
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gonna cheer if they win because we don't know I mean either way it was an amazing fight probably like my favorite title
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fight of the year yeah and I love uh just Grosso coming in as the underdog
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and putting Valentina in all these horrible positions like dropping her who
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drops Valentina shevchenko you know like Grasso was really doing a lot to
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brandish chefchenko's brand of just like being Unstoppable being this Terminator
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because Grasso has made her look human in both fights and I love that because every time she goes in there she's a
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huge Underdog and she still is able to pull it off well we're gonna get to see it a third time yes there is an
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immediate rematch after uh chefchenko's hand heals she does need surgery she broke her hand in the fight
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um so after she's on the mend that's the only fight that really makes sense like it has to yeah it has to happen we
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cannot go on in the division until we settle this yeah this is the most
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compelling fight especially now that Aaron blanchfield has taken out Talia Santos so that fight was pretty epic but
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at the same time you're not really looking at tally anymore it's a fight chefchenko you want to see either Aaron
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blanchfield or grossel in this third fight and feel for Aaron because she's
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gonna have to wait because I need to see the third one go sorry Aaron sorry girl you'll be all right yeah you'll be fine
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yeah she's so young she's like what 22 or something yes yeah [ __ ] you no you
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got like 50 years to wait I know you'll be okay imagine if she retires at Glover's age
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stop dude like what how old is he 45 42 42 imagine if she retires at 42 she
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still has 20 years of a fight career left so I've been thinking about this I've been in the sport for 17 years oh
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and I have under 30 fights Wonder because I I mean I started in the dark
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days of women's MMA I mean and in a weight class that really did
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not exist you found a bunch of different weight classes right well I we would do there
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was really nothing for 105 so we do like 110 115 112 like we would always do kind
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of like catch weights and stuff like that but uh 105 just wasn't a thing in the states it was really popular in
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Japan and I wasn't going there yet um which you know I eventually fought in
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Japan but again um it yeah it was just it was at a time
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when you know I would only fight maybe once a year or you know get two fights
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and then be off for another amount of time like there just was not that many opportunities there weren't that many fighters it just wasn't a thing it
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wasn't what it is now so that'd be really cool I mean you fight you know three times a year and then you're in
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this work for how many years and yeah you're gonna have like 90 fights by the time she retires if she stays healthy
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that's the scary part because when you're when you're an athlete you kind of started late like me so when you're
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an athlete from when you drop out of the womb then you can accumulate a lot more injuries than
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when you start a little later like uh mid-20s or something like that so hopefully she'll be all right I mean I
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think Glover was doing it out the womb now he's been doing it for a long time yeah he's been doing it since before I
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was doing it yeah yeah so she can have a long career ahead of her if she wants it just so what do you think that the last
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fight with uh Marina Rodriguez's fight what do you think that does for the strawboy division because we do have
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Zhang Yang's say her name so we have her on deck that was the
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Maryland way to see
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[Laughter] maybe that's why I feel like saying it
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so we have her and then um so we have her potentially taking on
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um Wiley and then we also have Suarez who makes less of a compelling case at
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this point but then now we have had readers with that performance so you could argue both of them are next if
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they haven't already had the fight with
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uh if that's not already in the works and you know getting get that ink on paper yeah
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um it really does make the top of the division really exciting well I like that she called out Suarez I love that
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uh Rodriguez is no [ __ ] she's not gonna run from anyone She's Not Afraid from
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anyone and I think she knows that she has to prove something in order to get that title shot so I like that move from
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her I think um if anything being called out is gonna
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be a little unnerving for a fighter like Tatiana Suarez who's probably turned down more than anything
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um and I think that's a great move I I love that fight I feel like if she can
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avoid the takedown is going to be a really tough night for Tatiana and it's going to be a big test for her to see if
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she can deal with someone with that kind of striking um you know uh Rodriguez doesn't have the best takedown defense
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but she showed great takedown defense in that fight but she does get taken down you know taken down but she does a
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really good job of staying safe while she's down there yeah exactly not giving the Grapplers Limbs and opportunities
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like she stays safe she doesn't take as much damage as maybe another fighter
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would yeah so I think um Suarez would drop jump at the opportunity just because she has been
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submitted in the past or at least taken down and like abused on the ground in the past um but it's a really compelling fight so
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I'm excited for that uh and I feel like the smartest thing for the
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UFC to do would be to make that zounding him versus Whaley fight in Asia
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somewhere in China or wherever and then have those two fight it out for top ranked spot on that card yeah I think oh
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yes yes I need to talk to Mick yeah same ideas and then people over here will
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watch it if it's at 2 am because we want to see it oh yeah yeah we want to see that dreams dreams level
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Fight Card yeah exciting well on that note we are going to take a quick break for
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