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Two Straws on Fightpass! Episode 9ish (the rest are on FightPass duh)
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Nov 6, 2024
We talk about UFC Paris (mon dieu!) and UFC 279 and weigh-in shenanigans. The last 15 min of Two Straws is on UFC Fight Pass network! So if you wanna watch the whole thing go check us out there. What's that? You don't have a Fightpass subscription? Well, you're missing out then as this week Angela makes Jess tear up. That's right: foot stuff and tears ONLY on UFC Fightpass. As ever: please like, subscribe, comment or whatever and follow our instagram page(s).
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foreign [Music]
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how are things going what can I say oh you're just a fancy I know sorry for
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the Hiatus guys I had to do some trash Angela's fault it was my fault for being
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extremely cultured and uh you know acting like a rich [ __ ] after my win I
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was like you know what I should spend some of that money you know you should as you should yeah because who knows how
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long we're gonna be here like as the kids say YOLO can't take it with you exactly so what are you gonna do not
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having kids anytime soon maybe we could uh get Adam to do one of
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those like uh what was that um what was that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie when he
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got pregnant do you remember that oh my gosh yes maybe we can get Adam to do that for me
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one day like just a male surrogate I mean why not we can you know we can clone things but these meant to work
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prehistoric animals back from the dead why not exactly right like when did that
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happen though are we doing that no I think we're doing that Holy I'm pretty I mean I may have seen it on Instagram so
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I can't really like you know vouch for its validity it was a picture of Jurassic Park like no I swear but I
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swear I think I saw some sort of headline I'm gonna google that while you keep talking I think I think you're right because I've definitely seen
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something like that and I was like oh damn we're uh we're living through Jurassic Park anytime there's a movie
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made of new technology that doesn't exist yet usually in the next 30 Years it becomes normal like uh I feel like
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for a while like cell phones and holographic things were in movies in the
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80s and then suddenly they became a thing we have hoverboards now you know like little little [ __ ] like that
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yeah did you find it they're talking about it I got distracted while you were talking about trying to be present and search at the same time can't do it yeah
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it's a skill 14 extinct animals that could be resurrected oh yeah is a brontosaurus
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one of them uh this is my favorite no uh uh what's the woolly mammoth no way oh
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it says um October 29th 2021 science scientists have revived ancient virus oh
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great plants was that like before or after covet that might be what
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they're talking about y'all need to stop that's where monkey pox came from I'm sure I'm pretty sure I mean yeah the
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movie outbreak started then monkey pox popped up 30 years later dude I think I'm on to something they're playing
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tricks with us they're [ __ ] with us basically yo sci-fi is only Psy real
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oh gosh oh man well uh let's talk about MMA I guess we should right yeah I guess
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so that's whatever whatever you talk about whatever we want some girl MMA talk
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um there is some cool fights in Paris uh there was only one chick fight on the Paris card but I kind of liked the fact
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that the one one of the two girls that fought twerked
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and it you know I'm usually like anti-twerk like I think that twerking is
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like a cheap way to get laughs or whatever or get get like some follows but if you do like a good Twerk Like A
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hip-hop music video level twerk then I gotta stand you know I got it and it was
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a good Twerk it was a really nice twerk you could tell she had a lot of control over both butt cheeks
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um and her lower back something that I cannot do so so kudos to her
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um but one thing that kind of made me sad was uh she went and she fought and she ended up losing to someone who just
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had a lot of experience uh Stephanie Edgar Stephanie Edgar yeah and people
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were giving her [ __ ] for twerking on the on the scale and it really just pisses
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me off because you it's almost like people don't want you to have fun unless you win you know what I mean like she
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was gonna lose whether she twerked or not so why can't the girl have fun before the inevitable happens you know
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what I mean like like it didn't affect whether she won or lost it all it did
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was let her have a little fun before she had to go in and get into a fist fight well one I just watched the twerk video
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and you are absolutely correct right great control my lower back cannot do
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that she could do one butt cheek at a time she definitely could she made it look good she makes it go wobba like
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when I try to twerk it just goes move move like there's no give yourself more cred on that I see you twerking the hall
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all the time with butcher you do a great job it doesn't do give me the jiggle of that oh she had some junk back there she
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has a jigglish yeah it it stays jiggling uh moments after the move which is what
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you want you want reverberage to happen uh so I was very impressed
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I've I've got to say that's that's work that I don't mind seeing it was a good Twerk it wasn't a lazy Twerk it was not
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a lazy twerk and it wasn't like a stripper like like nasty like it was kind of anything not that strippers are
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nasty I love strippers don't get that Twisted it wasn't a thirsty twerk thank you that's what I was trying to say
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thank you for thank you for helping me out yes it was a great work and I agree I think people should have fun it's like
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like what's wrong with it why can't we have a little fun why can't you wear some costumes and get UPS to weigh-ins
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right you know you're going in a battle and you like to keep it light-hearted with your costumes and your cosplay and
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you know why not yeah let her have fun so much restriction meanwhile
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um you know this last weekend kimaya's like you know goes up on the scale and
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misses Waite by eight pounds yeah 7.5 whatever it was iron that was a whole
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Dern I'm bringing it back by a lot of weight proceeds to have you know no
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humility about it or apologies about him just like flips everybody off and yeah it's not that bad and bad news and
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everybody's like still rooting for him yeah let the girls twerk let the girl twerk just because you lose doesn't mean
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you can't have fun and twerk and flip people off and do all the hoods ratchet [ __ ] that you like to do win or lose
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like you should be able to do it no matter what let us live let us live we're just Fighters Girls Just Want to
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Have Fun exactly sharks never hurt nobody but it was a good introduction to
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her personality at least uh Edgar got the win it was like a really slick armbar finish and then they kind of got
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the fan the crowd like excited about the rest of the fight card like it was a crazy crazy fight card uh those in the
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fans they really just were eating it all up so I was going to ask you about that
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because this is the first UFC that was in Paris MMA it was like
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kind of gaining popularity over there but not like really a hugely recognized
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sport like other sports over there uh so tell me about the audience and how well it was received
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um it was it like they were very much Pro countrymen so anytime a French
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fighter walked out and I think it was almost predominantly like France versus somebody I believe
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um and every time a French fighter walked out like the the crowd roared like it was crazy
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um they were cheating at like a football show you know a football show a football game one of those you know soccer things
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what do you call them matches yeah they treated like that like they were CR they
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were screaming they were excited they were chin things I didn't know because they were in French but everyone else
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knew it and they would at one point they ended up singing the National Anthem while uh Cyril gone was fighting tied to
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avasa so it was It was a pretty epic I bet that was really freaking special yeah it was a pretty epic experience I
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can only imagine what uh Sarah gotten felt as he's fighting it like you know he heard that you know like of all the
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things that you could block out someone's singing the National Anthem while you're fighting like that that
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pierces through every single person in that stadium was there to support you in
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showing their love and support yeah that's got to feel amazing yeah that's what I I really think sometimes the US like
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misses with like getting behind their country but not just sometimes but getting behind their countrymen like
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other countries like love love their people and really get behind them and in
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a way that yeah I just have not I have not experienced here I think I think it's I
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don't know for some reason maybe with the chick fights for some reason they always seem to be rooting for the girl
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from another country it's like they're into the accent or
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something she's exotic I mean that UPS your attractive points and your right marketability like astronomically dude I
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need to just start speaking with a French accent you think that would work for me like oh hello Jessica
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you look so beautiful today you look like a like a Petite Flower
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I love you yes I'm buying whatever you're selling damn okay all right friend change is coming
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I need my fans though um yeah I think I think with women you
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see that more like they're rooting for the other girl because I don't know they got turned by down by too many American
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girls in their past or something so their DM messages and dick pics were not
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opened or read or responded to no exactly so [ __ ] [ __ ] uh [ __ ] American
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Girls yeah basically meanwhile meanwhile morals is over there like sending heart
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eyes and like no don't know I don't know anything about it
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but yeah I don't know there's a thing with uh with the woman but I do feel like people get behind their countrymen
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when it's like a you a U.S male Fighter versus a a guy from another country
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unless they're a huge huge star yeah I hear I hear the crowd chanting
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USA yeah I mean you know that's something you mentioned the chimaya fight uh they were bullying him like
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crazy more so for his Antics than anything but the cheers for Kevin
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Holland were pretty pretty loud okay so I think we should talk about all of the happenings that led up to
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there was so much stuff but Yoshi Paris is old news okay it was fun I ate snails
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um we went to the catacombs which is really weird uh uh existential uh what
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is it um I had like an existential crisis walking through the tomb with like all these dead people yeah pretty
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much staring at you did you feel the energy I think I just felt like they were being
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disrespected like because because it's human skulls but every now and then
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you'll come across a design like the skulls are designed as a heart and then they have femurs like
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their fevers are like arm bones and [ __ ] that are separating the skulls so it
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looks like a heart design I'm like come on dog like what did you be pissed if you died and someone put your skull in a
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heart design yes um
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actually I would so are those the original like I mean are they actual
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like skulls and femurs from they're all people yeah they're all real real
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they're not like amazing no these are not cast and remade like these are
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actual bones of human beings like and I
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think when they they said something like a few [ __ ] I can't even remember like a
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few hundred thousand I think bodies are buried in the catacombs and you only get
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to walk through a small section I think you get lost down there if you walk through too much of it but it used to be
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a limestone mine and then uh they started shoving bodies down there
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because they will run out of space in the graveyards and then eventually someone had the bright idea to excavate
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the bodies and keep record of where the bodies were laid but also make designs from them so I mean you can look at it
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like that look it out like Hey we're trying to make something beautiful out of something you know not so beautiful
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I think I just thought YOLO like because eventually he might end up in [ __ ]
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flower design and somebody's backyard so I might as well have fun
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uh but anyway I digress we we did a bunch of stuff saw the Eiffel Tower had some romantic dinners and uh and then we
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made it back home so yeah let's talk about ah [ __ ] let's talk about 279.
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uoc 279 was a [ __ ] show basically but oddly oddly
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enough the mixed matching of the opponents and everything that took place like it kind of ended up the way that I
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preferred it to happen it was kind of like the catacombs
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[ __ ] show like he made a heart with it uh yeah you made it beautiful you made it
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beautiful you made it whatever you wanted to see I mean especially with the Diaz versus
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Ferguson fight versus Ferguson fight I was really excited about that because I think those are two people that should
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have fought and have never you know ended up crossing paths for one reason or another but I think that that was a
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really exciting fight to happen um I was really rooting for you know
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Holland versus you know [ __ ] the bad guy the bad guy the villain he's a
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villain now he just loves that role yeah he fell into it
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mad easy it's like putting on a good fit and pair of jeans he was just like oh
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this fits like I love it so nice why haven't I ever tried this before Oh my
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gosh I'm never going back yeah like my high-waisted jeans I'll never wear a low cut again yeah right why did they force
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that up the muffin like popping out of there like oh we just want to get like you know yeah who's lower abs are always
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flat like [ __ ] that girl like [ __ ] that girl they designed low riders she's
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stupid and she's hungry all the time she is hungry she's still in so many leg raises
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every day just to fit in those jeans so yeah she might have got himself some
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high rise or all right it's leggings and he's living
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it up he's living his best life as a villain well and now his coach has you know gone
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on the record and said you know he doesn't like the weight cutting part I think we're gonna stay up at 185. so I
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mean that could actually make a really interesting kind of addition to that weight class yeah and I mean he's he's a
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huge huge 170 pounder and I think that you know 185 might be a better better fit for him for sure I mean it he's had
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so many fights fall through and you have to think part of that was because it was so focused on staying small or getting
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small and I've seen that with a lot of like teammates and stuff that if you're so focused on being small a lot of times
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it takes away from your just like your health your ability to recover from Little injuries that you have during
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fight camp like it helps to have that extra weight on you that extra cushion
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it does and I mean it just if your whole focus is making weight like what energy
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do you actually have to focus on the fight and you know put that energy into training yeah and game planning and
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staying healthy it's you know it's a give and take but there is something to be said I mean this is why people are still cutting so much weight because it
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really is an advantage I mean he's really so big he's huge and people keep
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mentioning that uh Kevin Holland and chimaya have weighed in about the same weight but Heaven Holland is a natural
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in seven year tamayev is not he is a big boy so when they both rehydrated Holland
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looked like he was about the same size so I have looked like he was 30 pounds bigger he was big in there and when he
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when he uh went for that initial shot you mean I'm sorry when he said hey let's touch gloves and then fake touch
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glove no no we're gonna talk about this this I I do not like I do not like it I
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don't like it I'm sorry no we're talking about just talking [ __ ] gone
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if I wish I could hair flip with this one we have the you have the table
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by the floor sorry um no he
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he did some shady stuff and I mean it was going to be a tough fight for Holland it was I'm not I'm not saying
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that however Holland spent from the beginning to the end and it was a short
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fight you know trying to dig himself out of a hole because he thought that they were going to touch gloves and he got
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faked out yeah he might have went for a glove touch faked it and shot in and
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that was the start of the end yeah I have seen this I've seen this before in amateur fights there's this one girl I
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cannot remember her name she was a southpaw and I cornered my friend against her and she was like a notorious
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like hey I want to touch gloves and she'd come in Swinging with a big overhand and she dropped a girl that way
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wow and I told I told my team I was like we're not touching gloves I don't care what she says because my girl's a good
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sport you know she's like happy to be there happy yeah let's go let's put on a good show no because people are shady
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like that we don't do that if you're not cheating you're not trying and you don't Ortiz is he the one that said that yeah
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oh okay I don't know if he was the first but I distinctly remember him saying that okay first person ever told me that
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was Eddie Alvarez but I think I think he probably quoted Tito because I was
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explaining how I was embarrassed that I grabbed the fence in my tough fight good you know everybody a time or two
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does something unintentionally dirty and I don't even think I knew it was cheating at the time
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it has a reflex I was just like oh the fence is there I could use it again myself I mean why not yeah and then they
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told me not to I was like oh my bad and I got choked out so Instant Karma for me at least when I cheated but
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um it was insane I was like oh no I'm sorry RAF and then I felt the arm wrap around
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my neck and I was like [ __ ] shouldn't have been paying attention to
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the ref you live and you learn yes yes and you learn and you live to fight another day
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um but a lot of people are trying to say that Tamaya was feigning a jab and
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that's why I think you have but it wasn't even that moment it was a conversation beforehand so a lot of
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fight a lot of non-fighters don't know this but there is a conversation that happens beforehand yeah they're like hey
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uh hey bro you wanna hello yes yes no and then uh and then you can see in the
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video that Kevin Holland went there yeah yeah yeah for sure because their initial kind of handshake bro moment that was
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gonna happen got interrupted by the security because they know they almost fought a bunch of times behind stage so
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the security is like nah nah y'all aren't touching until the fight starts so you can see Kevin Holland was like
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yeah sure I'll touch gloves yeah sure so that is the moment that you knew they were going to touch gloves that's the
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moment not just when they come out but the moment before we where you see the yes or the no I always go
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yeah we're not doing that I try to I try to not be too friendly with it too I'm just like
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[Laughter] I don't know if that like does anything like in like intimidation-wise probably
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not but I'm just like [ __ ] your glove excuse me then I I no no no no there's
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that famous um moment that they were showing in the Nate Diaz versus cowboy Cerrone fight
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and before the fight starts Cerrone gives Diaz the finger you know like
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instead of touching gloves so like they go back to the corners they have like two hard rounds I think it was three
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round fight but they have two hard rounds it's like everyone's cheering everyone's into it and then Cerrone goes
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you want to touch gloves bro at the end of the and before the third round starts and ideas just cause
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that's what Kevin Holland should have done I love me some Nate Diaz dude you
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don't [ __ ] around he's the [ __ ] man he just has no filter and that's the best one because he's not like a bad guy
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or like a shitty person or anything he just has no filter he says what he thinks he's like when he likes you he's
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awesome when he doesn't like you you know it you know like it it really is fun it really is uh fun to watch him
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perform I'm gonna be sad to see him go I am too but I'm you know what it's it's
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really nice to see a fighter doing what they want how they want it yeah and um you know sometimes
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in you know whatever level you're at it's not uh it's not that easy you know
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sometimes you don't get out the way you want to you don't get to do things on your terms you're kind of Bend to the
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will of the organization that you work for and there's always something that you know
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is is challenging in that aspect so I think it's really cool that he's you know he made his declaration yeah he
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fought a great fight on his exit yeah um and now he's you know gonna go pursue
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boxing and if he wants to come back to MMA he can if he wants stand boxing he can he can do whatever he wants and I
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think that's a really freaking cool position to be in yeah for for a fighter for anyone really but especially for a
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fighter because this this can be a really ruthless Cutthroat brutal brutal
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place to be I mean look at who he's supposed to fight on his final fight you know and it's almost like the universe
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came down and was like you know what that's not gonna happen we're not that's not how it's we're not playing this game
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no no no no no give the legend the fight that he deserves versus a legend versus
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an OG someone who's in the same boat as him and we'll see who the better man is at this point of their career you know
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no I think it was I think it was a great fight I I think it was um the fight that was that it should
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have been in the first place for sure for sure and uh how do you like that little rest
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on the cage sidekick I just saw like I immediately thought of
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Nick Diaz his brother versus Anderson Silva yeah when Nick Diaz like laid down
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in the middle of the octagon and took a little little siesta and then got up like those guys do
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whatever they want and I I love that about them like it's just and you just gotta love them for it because it's just
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who they are and they do what they want when they want it and I love it that's why they have so many fans you know it's
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not about like wins or losses it's about the performances about like resonating
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with people you know and no matter what those guys come to fight yeah every single time oh yeah every single time
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they come to fight yes yes so so long Nate hope to see you killing it
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outside of the UFC in your boxing career and your promotion and all that good stuff yeah I'm excited to see what he
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does for sure yeah I'm always a fan of his yeah so um going back to to the chimaya of
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Holland fight what did you see technique wise that was really good let's let's
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ignore the fake glove tap but I know if I can [Music]
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it's very hard but we're gonna try um but once he got a hold of Kevin
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Holland like that dude's good on the ground like if he's he is impressive I mean the the hype it's it's real you
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know he is a really impressive fighter he puts people away with his punches he
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can out grapple people um we saw him go through a war with Gilbert Burns where he would like he was
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really like battle tested yeah which you know sometimes when when you see Fighters that you know can put people
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away so quickly and haven't made it out of like the first like two minutes minute of a round sometimes you can see
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them just break down because like their confidence Just go with it as the minutes keep going and the rounds keep
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going they're starting to doubt themselves they're starting to question themselves so I thought that that fight with Burns really answered a lot of
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questions um and really showed that he he is the real deal um he didn't want any part of Gilbert
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Burns guard which I'm not mad at him I don't blame him I wouldn't want to be in that guard anyways or either you know
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like he's a clamp he is a clamp build Gilbert Burns is a legit
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black belt in Jiu Jitsu he is incredible on the ground and it was part of the
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game plan obviously like yeah do not go on this man's guard um what he did with Kevin Holland was he
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just all I'm seeing is that stupid I know I
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know ugly Jabs
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impressed with that takedown though because he shot he shot um what was it right leg sorry left leg
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lead and he put his head he shot the double to the same side so it wasn't like a traditional double okay and then
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from there it's kind of it's kind of blurry it was a while ago I should have rewatched it your age
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I just remember hauling grabbing for his life and almost getting out he's trying
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to get the wizard yeah he really tried and when Kim I have got the darson you
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know he fought it to the best of his ability he was doing all of the right things but that was a very tight choke
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and you could just see him slowly inching inching tighter tighter Tighter and I mean I have I have a friend and
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teammate that I train with that is great at those chokes and it is just awful
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yeah and it's awful to be in it it hurts it chokes like you don't know if it's from the pain or from the lack of oxygen
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and you just keep trying to go but once that thing is locked in it's it's really challenging to break it and kimaya did a
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great job just holding on and making those tiny adjustments until Kevin Holland had a tap dude it looked like his shoulder popped out too like his
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shoulder was definitely strained to the point where he was asking the ref not to raise his hand or not to like wiggle his
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hand not even to like touch his arm like he if you watch the thing he's not he's holding his hand next to him but he's
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not touching his arm you're like [ __ ] like like just defending something like that and getting your arm extended like
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that oh it's brutal on the shoulders yes it's not a position where your shoulder
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and arm want to be in for any length of time especially with that kind of strain because you're trying to fight off the
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pressure of that lock with your arm isolated and it's just it's a tough position and hats off to
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Holland for you know sticking in and just doing everything they could to to defend it he was put in a really tough
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position like straight off the bat and had to dig himself out of a hole and you know unfortunately it didn't go his way
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but um it was you know it was an exciting lead up to the fight
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um I don't think it did anything to like Kevin Holland's you know fan base or his
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you know yeah no he's still Batman yeah he's he's awesome yeah I still want to see him fight I think everyone wants to
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see him fight for sure for sure um so what do you think happens with uh
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Tony Tony Ferguson after this one a lot of so
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it's it's a challenge for me at times because I'll
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put myself like in their position because I'm one of those like older Fighters yeah I'm a veteran I have you
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know miles on me and you know all this kind of stuff so I put myself in that position and I hear a lot of people in
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the media you know talking about his facial structure looks different well yeah we get punched in the face for a
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living like it's gonna change I don't look the same as when I first started neither do I that's for damn sure yeah
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um and you know the there is wear and tear in the body he has you know had surgeries and injuries and you know all that kind
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of stuff and he is you know getting up there in age but I think you know he still
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if he chooses to can fight but it's up to him you know and sometimes it gets frustrating
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listening to the media like immediately go to like oh you should retire you're too old yeah
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I'm saying that though they do and I mean they'll say it to anyone over 30.
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they they've said it to me before they said it after I fought Carolina uh copakevich they asked me if I thought
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that she should retire because of her losses because of her Asian stuff like that that's none of my business yeah like like it's it's nobody's business or
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decision other than like the fighter yeah and so you know a lot of people have a lot of stuff to say but when it
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comes down to it it's Tony's decision it's you know um something to to consider you know
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what direction he wants to go in his career if he's going to try and make a title run I don't think that that is
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where he's you know gonna go in his career for the remainder of it but he
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can still you know compete when he wants to he can still like call his own shots yeah it's just
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um you know like when we saw Dominic Cruz fight in San Diego against chitovera he
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was still doing you know all these great reads he was doing really good stuff he was winning all the rounds but you know the the younger Stronger Faster fighter
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you know caught him in the end yeah but that doesn't mean that Dominic still can't be competitive in fights exactly
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can't pick his fights like you gotta you have to look at the fight as a whole not just the moment where [ __ ] went wrong
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because a lot of times when you look at the fight as a whole this fighter was
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doing everything that they had to do to win you know and then maybe like some
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[ __ ] happened maybe they got distracted for a second like just taking your mind off the ball for one second or just
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getting putting your head in a place where it shouldn't be like it's so easy to make a mistake in MMA and
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unfortunately a lot of times you can't get that mistake back you know that
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means that mistake means that the fight is over so in a fight where you win you almost ignore the mistakes that you made
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because the outcome was what you wanted you know but like when you end up losing
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then everyone's pointing a finger at like oh you made this mistake like that means you suck you know like no usually
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that doesn't happen like how many people I was annoyed because um people were really excited about that
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uh Eric nixik tweet that happened I don't know if you heard but during the
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Dominic uh versus Cheeto verify uh Nick sic said something like oh that left
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kick is there or something like if if he if he faints the right hand and throws the back kick then the kid the head
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Kick's gonna be there and it's like if you watch any dominant Cruz fight that
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kick is always there you know but it's a matter of actually Landing it you know you can you can always say oh you can
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throw this or you can land that but keto was good enough to actually land that kick and it's not the first time he
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was like that's kind of his move it's his style he's yeah he's good at that move he's good at that move and the same
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way Leon Edwards is and Dominic is good at ducking and feigning which can lead
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you into that move you know it's just like a a clash of styles really but I
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was annoyed with that because it's like dude anyone will make that read but Dominic has been
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so good up to this point that he's been able to avoid those setups because he
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trains with kickboxes all the time he knows when they're about to throw it and he'll get out of the way this is the one
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time it didn't happen and now everyone's saying oh he shouldn't be fighting that way but it I don't know it's it's it's
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it's always a weird one where you start focusing too much on on something that
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worked and ignoring everything that didn't work oh wait the other way around
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right you focused yeah you focus too much on the one time that the person [ __ ] up and not all the times that it
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was actually beneficial to their to them winning so um that was a long-winded
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rant and I feel you though but yeah I mean it's it's a tough it's a tough brutal Sport
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and anything can happen in the sport and sometimes anything does happen yeah and and yes there is there is something to
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be said about you know aging Fighters and stuff like that but that doesn't take away from the fact that they can
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still be competitive exactly exactly sometimes they just have to figure out you know a different way of training a
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different way of preparing for the fight going into the fight different strategies it's
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um it's it's all about adaptation and figuring out what you know works yeah
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and from fights we get to figure out what worked what didn't work and we get to move and grow from that yeah it's
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just it's a tough it's a tough lesson sometimes yes it really is tough it was really tough
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um yeah I I got the chance to talk to uh Joe Lauzon on one of those shows
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recently and we asked him if he was interested in a title run at all and he
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said hell no he's like no I'm just I'm just taking each fight you know each fight as it
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comes and I'm I'm a prize fighter like that's what I do so that's what I'm doing and I'm hoping that I keep getting
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these fights where it makes sense where I'm finding someone from the same era
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who's still active but I'm not trying to go for a title run and I think that that's the smartest thing to do
35:25
um once you get to that point because like dude like there's so many Young Guns coming up and they're good and
35:32
they're fast and they're strong and who knows like you might end up accidentally stumbling across the title shot just
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because you've been killing it just because you're on a wing uh a win streak but I think it's cool to just be okay
35:45
with uh with these other Fighters being able to fight for that position and then
35:50
you're just having fun and doing what you spent a whole lifetime training to do absolutely
35:57
jolo's on his he's a fat man he has been in some Wars I love watching him fight yeah and I don't I don't care Win Lose
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or if he's you know in the top 10 or whatever I enjoy watching him fight and that's a big point that you just said
36:10
it's like for me I enjoy fighting like I didn't for a while like it became a really challenging difficult like
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hardship at one point but like I still I still love it I love to train I love to
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compete and when I don't love it any more then then I'll stop exactly you
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know but that doesn't mean that I can't do it yeah nobody's forcing you to do it do it
36:33
because you want to be there and that's the key that really is the key when you're at the old age of plus 30 like us
36:41
oh my God no man with lent us
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oh my God unless they're in the MILFs but
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I need a sugar baby oh that's the thing we should start like
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just act like we're really old and we need a young millionaire to take to
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assist us in life
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that's such a perfect word like I'm falling and I can't get up I need you to come get me baby
37:23
my hip hurts oh my God
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anyway um oh there are some good chick fights on 279 as well okay so
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so I think should we start with yeah we'll start
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with Dumont vs wolf [Laughter]
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why do you react like that Angela Hill no why tell me why oh God so
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this fight has been years in the making is that the scene not not this the
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matchup but this particular woman the wolf Daniel wolf oh
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who made it into videos see with only one fight so she fought to get on excuse me wait
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she fought in the contender series um won a fight that was our Pro debut
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that was her Pro debut um and then from there she was signed to the UFC she was
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supposed to fight originally um had to pull out due to injury I believe
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Angelus yes otherwise well um our friend Jenna Jenna Bishop she's a
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six-time some however she's a badass sport Jiu Jitsu girl she's won a lot of
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[ __ ] she's she's choked a lot of people out she's checked a lot of people out yeah a lot of people cry and now she is
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venturing into the MMA world and she is 3-0 uh yes yes three you know against
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stiff competition um and uh Daniel wolf was at one of our little Thunderdome
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trainings that we like to do we'll get all the girls together in San Diego and go and Spar somewhere hashtag team coven
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yeah hashtag team coven and Dale wolf is not in the team coven DM thread just FYI
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but she was there she was there to get some rounds in and she ended up eye
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gouging three different people on that sparring day because they were sparring
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in little gloves so she would do that to get out of clinch positions or to get out of guard or whatever and then she
39:44
did it to Jenna in her last round and Jenna said no you don't and she grabbed her elbow and arm barter and it was
39:54
it was really funny because well not funny that Jenna got eyeglished and
39:59
think he got armbar but it was funny because afterwards she did this self-righteous post did you see it no
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the elbow bar post no she said unfortunately I'm out of my fight
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because a training partner went real crazy and elbow barred me during
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sparring do you know what a elbow bar is I mean
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okay so you know you know one could say that you know
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this this she's a little green yeah she's a little green and you know maybe
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she's you know she's not used to fighting with with open-handed gloves because she comes from a boxing
40:44
background okay even though she's been training since what 2014. even though we
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can't find her boxing background Owen kid the uh all the Olympics so
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she's an Olympic boxer but all the Olympic boxes who ever get a whiff of her name are like we don't know that
41:01
[ __ ] or she's been saying she's an Olympic boxer for a long time but we like she's never been on the team so
41:08
this girl like she's very fascinating because she's literally talked her way in to the UFC
41:15
like she talked her way in the contender series fight she fought a girl who was a bantamweight and who
41:23
who won she that girl won the fight but she won Dana White literally said [ __ ]
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it I don't care I'm signing it because
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couldn't Win It Strike twice I think he knew that if he made her fight again she was gonna lose and he couldn't bring her
41:40
into the UC so he's just he's trying to find you know 145 girls they're out there I know
41:47
they're out there you know I know they're out there the good ones and somehow
41:52
so we get but what are you gonna do it's a weight
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class we have a champion you gotta feed her you gotta feed the champ so I was thinking that uh you know
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she looks the part so you think that she'd be able to win a few like all you
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need are two wins in 145 and you get to fight the champ and at least that's a sellable fight because Daniel wolf looks
42:18
like a big old scary girl you know she's big she's strong she's just very very
42:25
green yes yes so that was a funny fight she actually did way better than I
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thought she would against Norma Dumont um I think I think if anything her size
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is the best thing about her like she's a trojan horse you know there's doesn't do
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anything but she she rolls up and she looks big as [ __ ] yeah she looks big and
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you're like oh [ __ ] what's that horse do you know and get scared of it because you're like
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that's kind of scary maybe that's not really what a trojan horse is but but uh she she looks the part so she
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looks like she's gonna knock you out on one punch she looks like she probably has like crazy uh crazy skills in
43:09
wrestling or whatever but she really is a turtle on her back when she gets put
43:15
to the ground and uh her striking wasn't really uh much either for Norma Dumont to deal
43:22
with because she also has extensive striking experience yeah Dumont was constantly you know just out of a range
43:29
and it only takes you know a couple centimeters or an inch to make a difference and she was great with the counters and stumbled
43:37
um Danielle and um in the second and third round you know took her down and just executed
43:44
like she really did anything she wanted when she wanted yeah in this fight it
43:50
was you know a bit of a Dumont Clinic
43:55
um if you want to book her for um seminars you know what you're going
44:00
to get in this summer because she showed all of her how to do that
44:05
exactly I I do worry for Danielle though because the next match up the girl isn't
44:10
going to be as afraid of her size because they saw what Dumont did you know so she's really gonna have to show
44:16
her game up with take down the fence with just getting into range because even like when she would whiff on
44:23
punches she was so far away like once Dumont realized that Danielle wasn't
44:30
finding her range that's when she took the fight over it was somewhere around the second round and she just realized
44:37
all she had to do was kind of slip to the outside throw a big overhand and she was gonna land on Danielle so there's a
44:42
lot of work that she has to do um for this next fight because now there's tape on her now now you have two
44:48
fights to look at two fights to dissect and sometimes that's all you need to really break down someone even when they
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looked apart even when they have this like scary kind of uh stature walking in
45:00
facing facing your opponent yeah she's definitely got a lot of work to do yeah and and it's a really challenging place
45:07
to like learn and grow yes I mean I got
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into the UFC one fight too but um it wasn't on condenser series because they didn't have that okay when I got
45:19
into UFC but uh it's a really hard place to learn and grow like I that's why I ended up uh getting cut and then working
45:27
my way back in because they were uh Shelby called me up after two losses and
45:32
he's like yeah how many fights did you have when you got in one that's unheard
45:37
of like no it really is get out of here you know basically like get out of here go get some fight Scrub but uh I know it
45:45
hurt at the time yeah however I feel like it really worked out in your
45:51
benefit you got great experience you you know held the Belton Invicta and you got all of that experience that the other
45:57
people on the show already had yeah and I got to come in with a much better contract than I would have if I had just
46:04
lost my next three fights you know because I'm fighting people with more experience so it actually did work out a
46:11
lot better for me getting cut but um you know it's it's a tough stage to be on
46:16
and now I think she'll respect a little more if she's smart she'll buckle down and train a little harder because we
46:23
train with her for a bit and I'm sure she's gotten better you know
46:29
what hopefully this really motivates her yeah I mean a loss can do you know a couple things and and one that can
46:35
motivate you and the other one it can completely you know destroy you it really can yeah it could send you into a
46:40
black hole where you don't want to cry dark despair what about the uh other
46:47
okay so can we talk about Irene aldana and Macy is it Cason
46:55
I think that's how you say Okay so this was a catch weight of 140 and the first
47:01
round it rain aldana came out and was doing really well
47:07
second round Macy did really well and then the third round
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um Macy was on her way to secure two rounds I believe and it was it like it was
47:20
almost halfway through the round and uh aldana was on her back and Macy was on
47:27
her feet and aldana up kicked hit Mason in the liver and she fell and I mean
47:34
these were not like you know that it was she did the Liu King
47:39
yeah yeah like they were just a bunch of
47:45
yeah fast hard kicks and it hit her right in the button and dropped in the
47:51
end of the fight it was a pretty it was a pretty crazy finish it was so crazy did you know what happened when it
47:57
happened no I thought she got kicked in the [ __ ] like I was like come on you know it
48:03
didn't hurt that much I was just really confused yeah I was really confused so
48:09
was uh Irene she was just like oh no I think she also thought that like she
48:15
might have hit her in the crotch because that's it looks like the same reaction when guys get hit in the crotch it looks
48:21
like the same reaction as the liver shot like they they go in the fetal position you just go don't touch me you know look
48:28
at me you shrivel up into the little tiny
48:33
version of yourself yeah it was crazy I mean the the fight itself was interesting because I'm I'm a fan of
48:40
both of them I I think that you know they're both really talented Fighters and um aldana had been out for a little bit
48:46
and I was interested to see you know the work that she put in and she's always an exciting fight she always you know always brings it she has great boxing
48:53
um so she was doing some really good stuff in the first round but she was on the ground and she was getting into
48:59
position it's like she knew the position but she didn't know how to finish it or like exactly the mechanics to finish it
49:05
so it's like I can see all of her Improvement um with like her groundwork and stuff
49:11
like that and her boxing looked looked great and sharp and then the the second round Macy you know took her down and
49:17
they ended up in these positions and wait yes I believe so don't quote me on that it was like it was a week ago yeah
49:24
I can't remember what I had for breakfast you you remember way more of the fight than I do I just remember thinking irenae was gonna smoke her and
49:32
then thinking oh man Macy's gonna take this fight like that's all I remember and then I remember the upkick kale yeah
49:40
Macy I didn't think that she should go to the ground with her I was it was an
49:45
interesting decision because that's you know where there was like kind of like back and
49:50
forth in the first round right and then she I think she recognized that
49:57
aldana knew the positions but not know how to finish them so I think she saw the advantage there yeah she continued
50:04
yeah that's why she continued to go to the ground um and then in you know in the second
50:10
round it was clearly Macy's fight and then the third round um just that that up kick yeah it was just crazy I think everybody was just I
50:17
was I was shocked I really I really did not understand what had happened I just knew that the fight
50:24
was over yeah it did she reacted so hard I must have hurt like those liver shots
50:30
like I remember the first time I ever sparred a boxer like a legit like male
50:37
boxer yeah and he was you know he was keeping me honest he was giving me work but he you know he wasn't hitting me
50:43
like too hard to the head but yeah he wasn't hitting me too hard to the body either but man he just tapped the right
50:49
spot and it's this Delayed Reaction where you're like I'm good and then your body just shuts down yeah your body
50:56
completely shuts down and you have no choice but to go onto the ground and give yourself a hug until you feel
51:03
better he's like oh my diverticulitis so much dude the first time I ever got
51:11
liver kicked was um one of my first sparring sessions
51:16
sparring classes and I was sparring my coach's wife and she was a lefty
51:22
so I didn't even know that this was a thing like I didn't I had no idea what was happening to my body I'm like I'm
51:29
gonna try to punch her in the face and then I felt the shin hit me and I'm like oh that was kind of hard and I'm like
51:37
it's like your body crutches in and then you go Timber and you're just like what is happening am I dying like
51:45
maybe it's really horrible experience when you don't know what it is like you're just like what
51:51
I'm confused like why can't I control myself right now yeah it's really weird
51:57
so um man once you when you know what it is when you know how to fake it too
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because that's the thing you get good at once you start uh fighting inspiring and everything you
52:08
get good at faking the liver shot like someone hits you you're like oh clench or Clinton I wanted to do this this is
52:14
him because he hit me and delivered I wanted to clench you um you just find little ways to wait it
52:21
out you know in the same way you would if he got rocked but the way she reacted you know that was just right on the
52:27
money wasn't expecting it nothing was Flex she was just worried about passing the legs and man that's a that's a dope
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shot I'm gonna start using that now everybody everybody's just gonna go for
52:41
the hack that [ __ ] yeah yeah that works yeah go Irene because that fight
52:47
definitely was not going her way until she landed at so kudos to her like man
52:52
she's a scrapper absolutely on that note let's take a time out and we're gonna come back with
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