Is The 2018 MacBook Pro Hot Garbage?

It's a serious tone. It's a serious day

So this is the new MacBook Pro, and this is probably not the first video you've watched about it

The 2018 Core i9, the most controversial MacBook Pro I can think of in recent memory

The hot garbage, as my pal Dave2D likes to call it. My overall thoughts on it are that I'm disappointed

This thing gets hot, apparently, and there's a whole thermal throttling conversation going on

John got his hands on it. You're thinking about this all wrong. Hear me out because there is a lot to talk about

This piece of hot garbage in front of me is actually $6,700 US dollars

And this is the farthest they will let you take it. They call this a pro machine, so why not order it for you guys

This is definitely not the value point, though. How much is the Core i7? Will

So the Core i7, just that upgrade to the Core i9, is 300 more

Maybe save the 300 and just get the i7. Based on the information that's out there right now

it seems that some of the throttling issues have something to do with the GPU and CPU working in tandem and heating this baby up

You want it to be thin and light? You want it to be powerful? You're asking a lot. Could Apple make a fatter MacBook Pro

I would still buy it. Maybe the i9 model, it bumps up a little bit in scale

Regardless of which test you're looking at, this thing has been hot

Oh look at the presentation You feel special Six grand on the throttle master Throttle or no throttle it is a bit incredible that there a Core i9 in a form factor like this at all

This one is 87 watts USB type C. From a form factor perspective, this is the same stuff as the old ones

I also had my criticisms of the previous version, I don't like the touch bar that much

And then of course, no diversity of ports at all. It's just type C, you get one headphone jack

You got Thunderbolt 3 on this side times 2, Thunderbolt 3 on this side

The keyboard apparently has changed. There were some issues with the previous one

Dust issues, keys were getting stuck. So this new one now has a membrane in there that can supposedly protect from it

And maybe it makes it a little quieter. Smells like almost 7,000 USD

There is something else that's new on the new model here. True tone display

Your Mac automatically adapts ambient lighting conditions to make colors appear consistent in different environments

People who are into photo editing, video editing possibly as well, any kind of color correction

a more accurate representation and therefore interpretation of colors. Now I do have my old version

So new one, old one here. And let's check out this keyboard thing if I can feel the difference or not

Oh yeah, yeah. The new one it's a little more muffled. There's a little bit less clack to it

Typing feels the same. It's a bit quieter if that matters to you. Okay so this is obviously a very pretty machine and I opened this video up by calling it hot garbage Obviously I having a bit of fun Absurd This is a top spec model If this here wasn going to constitute an investigation of sorts

there's no way that I think that level of spec is justified. That is just way too much money for what this thing is

The i9 in general is not well suited for this particular form factor

As is the case with many Apple products, there is this compromise

But you want something that's thin and light and stylish, but then you kind of want it to be powerful too

How powerful? Where will I add and where will I subtract? And when you spec something like this out to like $6,700 bucks US, you're nowhere near the value point

You're nowhere near the right amount of compromise because performance probably trumps everything for you

You could have a multi-system setup where you have a desktop setup and then a laptop

at $6,700 you could have that. In the PC realm, there's really nothing with a form factor like this with an i9 chip in it

But ultimately, I understand why people are upset. Dave's video came out

He tested this thing with Adobe Premiere. This thing started to cook

And so people were like, man, if I'm paying that kind of money, I don't want any type of thermal throttling

I never want that to be the case. Apple can't do magic here. If it's going to be in this form factor

software is going to utilize this hardware differently. and your results are gonna vary depending on if you're in an Adobe product

an Adobe software product, which isn't optimized, and an Apple software product like Final Cut, which is more optimized

I don't think we're breaking a ton of news here. Apple doesn really represent value That not really what it about Form factor thinness build quality is going to be as important if not more important For example as John mentioned in his video the founder and developer of Geekbench had a completely different use case scenario in which this thing performed better from a thermal perspective He was using it to compile software So it had nothing to do with video editing at all Nonetheless I don think this thing is complete garbage Okay but I definitely think it pricey and possibly

unjustified in this specification as well. I think the value point might even be in the 13-inch model

What price did that start at, Will? $1,300, no touch bar, and then $1,800 with starting price

And I really do believe that a lot of people are thinking that they need more horsepower than they

probably do. There's a lot of users out there that are buying overkill hardware to begin with. They

want to make a form factor that's suitable for Jack and Kirk and Will and me. And then they also

want to make a MacBook that a student wants, it's hard to figure out what that form factor

should look like. And maybe what we really want is a product that doesn't even exist

Maybe the real solution is another product for that group of people. We might potentially be

held back by a design decision here. A slightly fatter pro MacBook. What are you going to do

with this thing? The Mac Pro hasn't been touched since 2013. 2013. There does seem to be this sense

of neglect for the pro group. When you think of MacBook, do you think of Pro? I've got

plans to do more with this system. Keep it locked, stay tuned. That's a very expensive

laptop. That's a very expensive laptop