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The Rest is Spain - Olive Press Podcast - Episode 20 #podcast #racism #expatlife #mostwanted #spain
Sep 28, 2026
Essential listening if you live in Spain, own property here, rent to guests or just want the unfiltered reality behind the headlines.
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A racist assault in Madrid. A fugitive fraudster in Spain and Portugal. And a bizarre lion hunt that may have been nothing of the sort. This week, the Rest is Spain crew tears into the stories expats and locals are talking about right now - and the people who think they can hide in plain sight.
Caroline is joined by Jon and Walt for a fast-moving, no-nonsense episode that starts with the shocking front-page case of a Black American woman allegedly told to "go back to Africa" at a famous flamenco club in Madrid. Jon breaks down why Olive Press chose to name the accused, what happened when the story was chased down, and why the case points to something bigger and uglier happening across Spain.
From there, the conversation turns to Tommy Robinson, with Walt and Jon tracing the self-styled activist's pattern of fundraising, luxury living, and alleged financial sleight of hand across Spain, Portugal, and Andorra. They dig into the villas, the companies, the crypto links, the reported arrests, and the trail of threats left behind after Olive Press published its investigation.
You'll discover:
Why the Madrid racism case has shocked even seasoned reporters
How naming and shaming can matter when the subject has already exposed himself online
What the Tommy Robinson investigation reveals about cash, companies, and offshore grift
Why Andorra and the Algarve keep appearing in the background
How racist and extremist behaviour is becoming more brazen across Europe
Then comes one of Olive Press's trademarks - the wanted files. Jon and Walt revisit Operation Captura, the campaign that has helped track down Britain's most wanted fugitives in Spain over two decades, including fraudsters, sex offenders, and a bank robber who was caught only after Olive Press put his face on the front page. They also unpack why Spain can be such a useful place to disappear in, from cash-only lifestyles to crowded tourist hotspots that make fugitives harder to spot.
And because no episode of The Rest is Spain would be complete without a stranger-than-fiction twist, the team closes with the mysterious "lion" reportedly spotted near Toledo, plus the real-life stories of escaped animals, trophy hunters, and the kinds of headlines that only seem to happen here.
Essential listening if you want hard-edged Spanish news, outrageous true-crime stories, and a brutally honest look at the people trying to exploit life on the Costa. If you live in Spain, dream of living here, or just love a story that gets wilder by the minute, hit play.
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Why? If you're a criminal, why would you
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come to the Costadel Soul
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>> coins? They did the rugpool where all
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the investors lose their money and the
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guys who set up walk away with the cash.
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>> As he walked towards me and I swear I
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thought the guy was going to kill me.
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>> Don't forget to subscribe to the rest of
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Spain on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple
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Podcasts.
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>> Welcome to the Rest Spain podcast by
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Olive Press, episode 20, our 20th
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episode. We're so excited and we're
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sponsored as usual by Stacore Expat
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Insurance and I'm here today with John
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and Walt. Hi guys. How you doing?
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>> Hello guys. Is all good?
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>> Hi Caroline. How you getting on? How's
0:40
things? You look like you're in a
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library.
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>> I do, don't I? May or may not be real.
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>> Yeah. Well, I have to say we have to
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talk about Walt's back backdrop which I
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have to say is rather extraordinary.
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That is that either Cape Canaveral or
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it's um the Saroda Familia. It's not a
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NASA rocket. Actually, that would
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probably be a little bit cooler. It's
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quite a familiar. It's about a kilometer
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from my house. Something I I see every
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day. So, normally when I'm chatting to
1:03
you guys, I'm the one looking at it.
1:04
Now, I've got my back to it so you guys
1:06
can see it.
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>> Oh, well, thanks for sacrificing.
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>> Did you Did you see it when it had
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scaffolding up when it all came down and
1:12
it's like a month ago or two months?
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>> It was in Feb, I think, or March. They
1:16
put on the big It's pretty small in this
1:18
screen, but the cross at the top. They
1:20
put that on and they're like, "Tada,
1:22
it's done." And there's still um as you
1:24
can see one crane and I think when they
1:26
say it's done it's not really done cuz
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if you walk past it there's a lot of um
1:30
construction work going on.
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>> Is there still carrying on?
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>> Well yeah I think but stuff out of sight
1:34
you know on the ground floor levels. So
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it's it's all intents and purposes it's
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done.
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>> Yeah it's incredible building that I've
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been up the top of that. Can you still
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walk to the top of it? It's when you go
1:45
that walkway that's about sort of tw 10
1:47
stories high and you you know there's
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little it's I mean it's not for people
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who've got vertigo.
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>> I went up there in I don't know when it
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was February. You take a lift. I don't
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know if there is some stairs but you
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take the lift and then like the tallest
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tower in the center which
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>> you I haven't been up there. I don't
2:03
think that's open to the public yet.
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>> Excellent. So we can see that you're
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enjoying the Barcelona life. Walt.
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>> Yeah. Still still late September. So
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nice. I was swimming in the sea.
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>> There it is.
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>> How's the weather in Andes here?
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>> It's lovely, isn't it, John?
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 25 degrees today. It's
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really nice. I might even go for a swim
2:23
later. Let's see if I get time. The idea
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>> most of it now before it changes.
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>> I think we always seem to do our podcast
2:30
in um summertime that we started in
2:32
summer last year. The very first episode
2:35
right in the central house.
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>> That's right. It's our 20th episode,
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guys. 20 20th episode.
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>> 20 episodes on. Yeah.
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>> Isn't Isn't that amazing? I think we is
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it like 15 or 14 months something like
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that since we started
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>> about that. Yeah. So really good and
2:50
really interesting topics like the ones
2:52
we have this week. I mean
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>> the cover of this month's issue that's
2:57
such a terrible story. It says go back
2:59
to Africa. So do you want to talk to us
3:01
about this?
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>> It absolutely extraordinary. Yeah, I
3:06
think it's the sort of thing that
3:07
perhaps we might have read about in
3:09
England in the 1980s or '9s.
3:12
>> It's extraordinary. An air stew from
3:16
America, from New York, Andrea Jones,
3:19
contacted us few weeks ago and said, uh,
3:22
you're not going to believe this. I went
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to a Fenco club in Madrid. Um, I was
3:27
over for a couple of days and, uh, it
3:29
was the most famous forco show. It's 60
3:31
years it's been open, this club, Tori
3:33
Bamechas. It's where uh Cameron de la
3:36
Isla met Paco Deia, legendary, you know,
3:39
famously. It's where the two legends of
3:41
Flamco met. It's right in the heart of
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Madrid. And she booked to go to a show.
3:47
And when she got there, the seat she was
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given was was not a great seat. She
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couldn't see the stage properly. And
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when she, you know, gently asked the
3:57
manager, "Look, would you mind if I
3:58
moved a bit?" He just just threw his
4:02
toys out the pram, went crazy and just
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started telling her what you know
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ridiculous. Who do you think you are?
4:07
You know, basically you Nigerian, you
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should get out of here. Go back to
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Africa.
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>> I smell right. I saw that you
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>> said that you smell basically he started
4:18
accusing her of causing trouble. Said
4:20
you shouldn't be here. You should go
4:22
back to your own country. And so she was
4:24
like horrified. So she basically just
4:26
said got up and and left.
4:28
>> Yeah. And then she realized when she was
4:31
5 minutes up the road that she'd left
4:33
her bag in the club. So she went back to
4:35
the club and said, "Look, can I get my
4:37
um bag back?" And this guy said, "No,
4:40
you can't." So she's like, "What? I want
4:42
my bag back." And so made a bit of a
4:43
scene in front of about four or five
4:45
staff. The guy then grabbed her, pushed
4:47
her against the wall, and amazingly
4:50
rubbed his crotch in her face and
4:52
started making sexual kind of overtures
4:54
to her and then said, "I'm and if you're
4:57
not careful, I'm going to come and rape
4:58
your mother." So basically, he went off
5:01
the deep end, right? So this woman was
5:03
kind of freaking out. So she called the
5:04
police. The police eventually turn up.
5:07
They eventually after some negotiation
5:10
got the club to agree to give her bag
5:11
back.
5:12
>> She then was suffering from a really bad
5:14
head headache. So she was really really
5:16
worried about her brain. She couldn't
5:17
open her eyes. I'm sort of migraines. So
5:19
the police said, "Look, you need to go
5:20
to the hospital now." So she went to the
5:21
hospital. She was okay. She she
5:23
obviously was suffering from stress. So
5:25
I gave her some pills. She then went and
5:27
filed a police report the next day and
5:31
um you'd have thought that would have
5:32
gone somewhere, right? Nowhere. Nothing
5:34
at all. Didn't go anywhere at all.
5:37
Totally ignored. So she was pretty angry
5:38
about that. She wrote to the club a few
5:39
more times. She wrote to the Madrid
5:41
authorities. She wrote to the Spanish
5:42
tourist board. to Spanish government.
5:44
She wrote to a whole series of different
5:46
places. Nothing. No one did anything at
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all.
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>> Wow.
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>> So, I just thought this is this is
5:51
unbelievable. We're going to have to run
5:52
this story. This is extraordinary.
5:54
>> And so,
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>> Allesio, our reporter, got in touch
5:58
there, did the did the story, contacted
6:00
the club, and would you believe that the
6:03
club said, "Oh, no. We've just sacked
6:05
him a couple of weeks ago. It's the
6:06
second time this has happened." another
6:09
group of of um Americans, black
6:11
Americans, had also complained and we
6:14
let go of him straight away. They
6:16
claimed it was nothing to do with this
6:17
girl getting in touch with us. Us
6:19
contacted them. He said they'd sacked
6:20
him. So, and I I assumed they must have
6:23
done, but then we then discovered this
6:25
other American black girl, black
6:28
American, and her two brothers, both
6:29
black. So, one of her brothers and her
6:31
brother's friend had gone and had almost
6:34
identical treatment except that this
6:35
time they'd recorded it and they filmed
6:38
it and they actually put it on Tik Tok
6:41
back in the end of July and it went
6:43
viral. Um, and so anyone can go and find
6:46
it this place to Torres Mccas in Madrid.
6:49
They can find this extraordinary video
6:50
made by this brilliant uh brilliant girl
6:53
who's made this amazing video that just
6:56
shows this guy up for what he is, which
6:57
is an absolute piece of this guy
6:59
Diego Roco who has no right to be
7:02
working in any club as quite frankly I'm
7:06
so horrified by it that this guy got
7:08
away with it and actually when you find
7:10
his his his actual um page on Tik Tok
7:14
he's actually gone up and made his own
7:16
video about the incident and got one of
7:18
his own staff a a colored member of
7:20
staff in the video saying oh it's no big
7:22
deal you know it's I I'm friends with
7:25
all the colored staff at my at my
7:27
company and you know I'm colored as Oh,
7:29
I'm, you know, I'm I'm awesome. And he
7:30
says, "Welcome to the jungle." And when
7:32
people started kind of going, "What are
7:34
you on about? You're outrageous." He
7:36
then attacked them, coming back, calling
7:37
them negtos, and you know, you you've
7:39
got no idea. I'm just as black as you.
7:41
And meanwhile, this guy's a Vox
7:43
supporter with his like Spanish, you
7:45
know, his wristband, you know, the Spain
7:46
colors.
7:48
>> Honestly, really shocking. I mean, I've
7:50
never come across anything quite as
7:51
shocking as this. It really is terrible.
7:53
So, I'm delighted we've named him.
7:57
Tell us about the naming process cuz I
7:58
understand you know in Spain they can be
8:00
a bit funny about naming people. So tell
8:02
us you know how you made the decision to
8:03
go go ahead and name him.
8:05
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Well, look, traditionally, um,
9:39
supposedly people put initials of people
9:41
who would get accused of things or
9:43
whatever, but given that he has outed
9:45
himself on TikTok, given he's been
9:46
sacked by the club who've confirmed
9:48
that, given that um, he seems happy
9:51
enough to put this stuff out, racist
9:52
stuff out, I see no reason why we
9:54
shouldn't name him. And of course, as
9:55
you well know, all the TV networks will
9:58
name people along with El Pis and El
9:59
Mundo. They name criminals and people
10:01
who do things. Uh, it's not really cut
10:03
and dried law. Um, so I'm not concerned
10:06
about it. You know, let him come and sue
10:08
us. Quite frankly, if he wants to try
10:09
that, good. We we'll we'll defend
10:11
ourselves. We were here 20 years.
10:14
>> Our readers and our viewers are mostly
10:16
foreigners and expats. People who live
10:18
here are also immigrants like like uh
10:20
like this poor woman who came. And so,
10:22
you know, I I'll defend our rights. If
10:24
it means going to court, I'll go to
10:25
court over it. I'm very happy to. And
10:27
you know, I could do it time and time
10:29
again because it's not acceptable in
10:30
this modern era in modern Europe in 2026
10:34
to get away with language like that.
10:35
It's appalling.
10:37
>> Can't believe he did that so overtly as
10:38
well. I mean, I wonder what drove him to
10:40
think that that would be okay and
10:42
nothing would happen. That's the
10:43
worrying thing, isn't it?
10:45
>> Yeah. Education. I mean, let's face it.
10:47
We know that if it was one-off instant,
10:49
could it have been a bad day? But when
10:51
we then discovered this other video this
10:54
and you can see him in the video talking
10:56
to these guys. He says this guy says
10:58
your says you stink your feet stink. Put
11:00
your shoes back on. Says you really
11:01
smell you should go back to your own
11:03
country. He's saying it on video. So
11:05
clearly this guy and that's just two
11:07
instance. How many other times you
11:08
reckon he's done that?
11:10
>> I think he's done it too
11:11
>> of a pattern that we're seeing where
11:13
racists are feeling far more emboldened
11:16
over the last few years.
11:17
>> You know this is this is 10 years ago. I
11:19
think this kind of thing wouldn't have
11:20
been so easy to um to say up publicly,
11:23
but these guys, it's not just the
11:24
racist.
11:25
>> Five years.
11:26
>> Yeah. Even five years. Even in Madrid
11:28
now, you've got all the fang flanker and
11:30
the the fascists and the Nazis. They're
11:32
out in force doing Nazi salutes and
11:34
goose goostepping down Madrid and
11:36
>> Exactly. wearing Hitler t-shirts and
11:38
swastikas. Have you we've done stories
11:40
on people going out in in groups of sort
11:42
of stag weekends with swastikas on and
11:44
and pitch Adolf Hitler and
11:47
>> Wow. Yeah.
11:48
>> They would never have done that. five 10
11:49
years ago, would they?
11:51
>> No.
11:51
>> Things are going in the wrong direction.
11:52
>> Speaking of Yeah. Talking of
11:55
controversial personalities, let's move
11:57
on to the story about Tommy Robinson.
12:00
So, you know, you've been following this
12:03
for some time. Maybe John, you're the
12:05
best person to talk about this.
12:07
>> Well, I mean, Tommy actually Walt uh was
12:10
the one who track tracked him down to a
12:12
house in Alakante, some 1.5 million
12:15
villa. And Walt was w in fact two two of
12:17
the journalists went down located him
12:19
took him a couple of days. Walt you
12:21
should explain it because this was going
12:22
back a year and a no two years now.
12:24
We've tracing Tommy all
12:26
>> we've been tangling with Tommy Robinson
12:28
now for a couple of years because he's
12:29
um you know we're a Spain based
12:31
newspaper and if he stays in the UK I'm
12:33
not too interested but he's he's he's
12:35
listed himself in the Spanish in the
12:37
English court as a Spain resident and we
12:39
all know that he's always in Spain and
12:41
in Portugal. He spends probably more
12:42
time here than the UK. So he is he is
12:45
our business and um he's come back into
12:48
light recently. Obviously he's been a
12:49
much bigger figure in the last couple
12:50
last year or so since he started
12:52
instigating these race riots. Um I think
12:54
it was last summer was it or two summers
12:56
ago in in the UK there was all these
12:57
immigration riots. Tommy
12:58
>> this is March called March for Tommy or
13:00
whatever it's called March.
13:01
>> Yeah I remember that.
13:02
>> Yeah.
13:02
>> Yeah. He's done two of them two years in
13:04
a row. Good news that the second one was
13:06
smaller than the first. So, let's
13:07
>> he's the figurehead for all of this and
13:09
he's been back in the news cuz he was
13:10
outed recently in a Channel 4
13:12
documentary about his finances and this
13:14
is one thing that people in the know
13:16
have always been asking because he's
13:17
he's a he's a known fraudster and he's
13:19
declared bankruptcy at least once. He
13:22
says he's been debanked and yet one of
13:24
the things we find him doing when he's
13:25
in the in Spain is always staying in
13:27
luxury villas or five-star resorts and
13:30
living the life of a king with his
13:32
family. We know that he's he favors this
13:34
um this resort in the Algav in Portugal
13:37
where it's €10,000 a week. He's there
13:39
quite a lot
13:40
>> and Lanzerati Tenneref and Lancerati
13:43
>> and he's he's also got um we don't know
13:46
if he's got interests in buying villas
13:47
in Alakanti but he's he's opted staying
13:50
in villas and we don't think he owns
13:51
these villas. He's got friends or he's
13:53
um you know he has access to luxury
13:55
villas in in Alakant and Costlanca. We
13:58
do wonder he spent a lot of time looking
14:00
at villas in Finn Strats and we have
14:02
some suspicions about that though we
14:04
can't firm them up as yet. Anyway,
14:06
what's been happening with Tommy
14:07
Robinson is it's revealed that he's
14:10
basically always trying to um you know
14:13
canvas for donations from his
14:15
supporters. Oh, help me with my fund.
14:16
Help me with my legal fees. Help me with
14:17
my life. We call them begging emails.
14:20
And he does receive Yeah, he receives
14:22
hundreds of thousands if not millions of
14:24
pounds. He's received these over the
14:25
years and he was funneling them through
14:28
UK companies that he would set up. They
14:31
would never declare um taxes or file
14:33
file accounts.
14:34
>> But they fold they fold within a year,
14:35
don't they? They fold. There's about
14:36
five of them, don't they? they fold and
14:37
then down and then he sets up a new one
14:40
and he reached the end of the road doing
14:42
that in the UK and then he went to
14:44
Portugal and we've uncovered not
14:46
necessarily ourselves but in conjunction
14:47
with other investigators that he set up
14:50
two companies in the Algav and this is
14:52
where we've been sniffing around and so
14:55
basically he's doing the same the same
14:57
trick he's using these companies outside
14:58
of you know UK jurisdiction again to
15:01
launder these um supposedly charitable
15:03
donations which go on his you know his
15:06
um luxury holidays and potentially up
15:08
his nose. We we we're still not quite
15:10
sure about that, but we kind of know it.
15:12
>> Well, no, he's admitted he's admitted
15:14
it. And and apparently in that Channel 4
15:16
documentary, uh one of the girls who who
15:18
was close to him, who actually did quite
15:20
a number of filming with him, said that
15:21
he would regularly go to cash points,
15:23
take cash out, and buy drugs. Yeah.
15:25
>> And so our people who are giving money
15:27
to Tommy Robinson, his group, basically
15:29
funding his lifestyle, allowing him to
15:30
stay in 10,000 a weekend hotels, stay in
15:34
1500 or 1.5 million villas, living in
15:37
Andor, going to Lanzerati, traveling
15:40
around, basically fundamentally been in
15:42
Marbaya, everywhere you can name in
15:43
Spain, he travels around to. And he's
15:46
with his group of pals and and having a
15:48
great time. And you know it's it's quite
15:50
clear that as Walt says he's been caught
15:53
being in fact he was arrested yesterday.
15:55
Is that right Walt? When he arrived in
15:56
the UK
15:57
>> two days ago. Yeah. Arrested arriving in
16:00
the UK under schedule 3 which is um
16:03
counterterrorism issues. And apparently
16:05
they interviewed him about his opinions
16:06
on Russia because he's um he's he's been
16:09
ferment he's been doing videos saying
16:11
we'll never fight if there's a war.
16:13
Slightly kind of sedicious videos. I
16:15
don't know if that's what the police are
16:16
interested in that they're always
16:17
interested in what he's doing. But I
16:19
think he is going to have bigger
16:20
problems again now because definitely
16:21
since we've been poking around, he's no
16:23
longer going to have access to these
16:25
accounts, these companies in Portugal.
16:27
We can say that. We think it's going to
16:29
be
16:30
>> but also like so so he he's moved his
16:32
money supposedly here and he says he
16:34
lives a resident in Spain because he's
16:36
got an Irish passport. So he says I'm a
16:37
resident in Spain, but we've checked
16:38
this. There's no NIE in his maiden name
16:41
or his or Tommy Robinson his fate we
16:43
should say Steven Yaky Lennon's his
16:44
maiden name
16:47
in his name doesn't
16:49
>> doesn't use name Robinson yeah so he but
16:50
he there's nothing here so he doesn't
16:52
own anything here he's not resident here
16:53
because you have to have an NIE and you
16:55
have to be on a padron he's not on a
16:56
padron anywhere so where is he
16:58
registered if he's here and and you know
17:00
if he's and given that he's talking
17:01
about how Vox is the only party that can
17:04
run Spain and how Spain's full of
17:05
migrants and it's disgusting what's
17:07
happened in SUA with the invasion and
17:09
how Pedro Sanchez is a criminal. If he's
17:11
spouting off about that in Spain, you
17:14
know, I think they might have a word
17:15
with him about um hate speech and I
17:18
think you could find himself in big
17:19
trouble here. Certainly there's, you
17:22
know, and again, one other thing, Walt,
17:24
what about Andor? I mean, what's he
17:25
doing in Andor at the moment?
17:26
>> Yeah. So, this is something that we can
17:28
exclusively reveal that um he's up to no
17:31
good with crypto and and Pandora. And
17:32
Endor is another one of these shady
17:34
jurisdictions, a micro state where, you
17:37
know, things are quite unregulated and
17:38
you can get away with a bit more than
17:39
you could in Spain or the UK. And he's
17:42
been promoting and partnering a lot of
17:43
meme coins that we understand are run by
17:46
his friends and his associates that also
17:49
dodgy people, convicted fraudsters, etc.
17:52
Um, we don't know exactly what the scam
17:53
>> Yeah, people have been convicted of
17:55
fraud. It's Ashley Roberts one of them,
17:56
isn't she or something? Yeah, but the a
17:58
memecoin doesn't have to be fraudulent,
17:59
but I mean it's, you know, generally
18:01
when there's fraud involved, it's always
18:03
with a memecoin. So, we we're keeping an
18:05
eye on that. He's um that's his latest
18:07
script. Basically,
18:09
>> he's promoting it, isn't he? He's
18:10
actively promoting on social media and
18:12
and pushing these these products that
18:14
you're going to put money into, but
18:16
basically what happens is people put
18:18
money into it up to a certain point when
18:19
no one trusts they're ever going to get
18:20
any money back and suddenly, bang, they
18:22
pull the rug away and vanish and shut
18:24
down and then start something else up.
18:25
And this is well, you know more about
18:27
this than us because you've investigated
18:28
these kind of crypto companies, haven't
18:30
you, in Spain a few times through
18:31
Gibraltar and but it's quite typical,
18:33
isn't it? It happens a lot. Right
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>> is something that he's already been
19:00
party to. I think in 2024, one of his
19:02
partners did exactly this where he was
19:04
promoting Rob Tony Robinson or Lenon as
19:08
we call them was promoting one of these
19:10
meme coins. They did the rugpool where
19:12
all the investors lose their money and
19:13
the guys who set up walk away with the
19:15
cash. And this is one of the guys who
19:17
was funding his um his protest and his
19:19
marches. So, we know he's done it
19:20
before. He's got he's got form for it.
19:22
It looks like he's doing it again in
19:23
Andor. So he's he's in our neck of the
19:25
woods for sure.
19:27
>> Wow.
19:27
>> And I mean and and he and I should point
19:29
out Caroline when we did this two years
19:30
ago when Walt and I forget who else you
19:33
were with at the time, Walt, who who
19:34
actually tracked him down to that villa,
19:36
but I should point out that after we
19:38
published this, we had a series of
19:40
threats from him, emails, uh WhatsApps,
19:43
and people. He basically said to Walt on
19:45
a video, I know where you live. I know
19:47
where your journalists live. I'm going
19:48
to come and find you. So, you know, he's
19:50
that kind of bloke who's threatening and
19:52
it almost certainly his behavior. In
19:54
fact, we talked about people are being
19:56
emboldened to be racist. You know, the
19:57
likes of Trump and the likes of Tommy
19:59
Robinson allow people to get away with
20:01
saying things like, "Go back to Africa
20:02
to a black American." And, you know, as
20:05
long as people like him are allowed to
20:06
wander around getting away with this
20:08
kind of hate speech, we're going to see
20:10
other people thinking, "Oh, I can do it
20:11
as well, can't I?" You know, and
20:13
>> Exactly.
20:14
>> Well, this is why they have wanted
20:16
lists, okay? And I've seen in the paper
20:21
something which to me just looked like a
20:24
stereotypical drawing of some thugs if
20:26
I'm going to be honest was the Britain's
20:28
most wanted list. [laughter] A lot of
20:31
them are here. So can we can we expand
20:34
on this one?
20:35
>> It's it's extraordinary, isn't it? So
20:38
Operation Capturer is now 20 years old.
20:40
Like us 20 episodes 20 years Operation
20:43
Capture. In fact, we launched Olive
20:44
Breast launched 20 years ago. Nice round
20:46
number. And they launched with 50
20:49
criminals precisely 20 years ago in 2006
20:52
that were British criminals they
20:54
believed to be living in Spain. I mean
20:56
that many right 100 criminals that they
20:58
actually wanted to track down and find
21:00
there obviously a lot more right but
21:02
these are hundred they believe are
21:03
living in Spain. So that was back in in
21:06
2006. Now since then every year they've
21:09
had this launch of Operation Capturer
21:11
and I remember going to the very first
21:12
one in 2006 in Malaga. We went to
21:15
another one a couple of years later and
21:17
they announced these are our latest
21:18
people on the list. They'll have some of
21:20
the old ones who haven't been caught and
21:22
some new ones every year. And they
21:24
reckon that over 20 years they'd caught
21:27
no less than a hundreds of Britain's
21:29
most wanted over the 20 years they've
21:32
picked up from people like our readers
21:34
who pick up the paper, look at the
21:36
website, they pick up the newspapers,
21:37
who then contact us or contact
21:39
Crimestoppers, which is the charity of
21:41
course that runs it. And um it's been
21:43
amazing, you know, and as Walt will tell
21:46
us this recently, they had they they've
21:48
got so few of these criminals left
21:50
because they've got so many of them.
21:51
There how many of this? They just
21:52
announced 12, didn't they? In May was
21:54
the they normally did it in May. They
21:55
announced there were 12 most wanted.
21:57
That's all there were. And you know, as
21:58
you could see, horrible looking bunch.
22:00
Now, Walt knows a bit more about how
22:02
many have been caught because it's quite
22:03
extraordinary, isn't it, in just three
22:04
months or four months. It's remarkable
22:06
because yeah, they they put out this
22:08
most wanted appeal in in May and they
22:10
they do this quite often and we've seen
22:12
it before where they they're trying to
22:13
catch a guy and they guy's been on the
22:14
run for 20 years and he it feels a bit
22:16
desperate to put these these appeals out
22:18
like you're not going to catch a guy but
22:20
they put this one out in um in May which
22:22
is four months ago and already they
22:24
caught four of them. There's the 12 most
22:26
wanted Brits in Spain. So not not in
22:28
general in total but just in Spain
22:29
>> 33%
22:30
>> and they yeah they've caught what is
22:32
that a third of them. Um and and it's
22:36
all been down, we could say, to
22:37
disappeal because um they the the most
22:40
recent one was a a former Brookside
22:42
actor. This this is almost kind of
22:43
funny, but it's not. He was on
22:45
Brookside.
22:45
>> I saw that one. Yeah, that was
22:47
interesting.
22:47
>> I never watched Brookside, so I couldn't
22:48
say who he was, but he was in Brookside
22:50
in the 1990s and um now he's in his 50s
22:53
and he's been running a a modeling scam.
22:56
This one's really cruel because it plays
22:57
on, you know, the hopes and dreams of
22:59
young girls where they they trick
23:01
families into paying money for photo
23:03
shoots, etc., and then they just
23:04
disappear with girls get no modeling
23:06
shoots or no modeling gigs.
23:08
>> Yeah.
23:09
>> So, they apparently they scam 6,000
23:11
people over that out of that. And this
23:13
guy was recently arrested Tori Vieca
23:16
being a bit of a hot spot for, you know,
23:18
Brits on a lamb, I would say. Um the
23:21
other one [laughter] was
23:22
>> let's not let's not damn them all the
23:24
people who live in Toya
23:27
Brits who live in
23:29
>> the other one was a guy called
23:30
>> Benador was it John Rox who's John Roxy
23:33
he he was picked up in Benadorm right
23:35
>> no he's picked up in Madrid in a cafe
23:36
but he was he was notorious for um he's
23:38
working in bars in Benador in the strip
23:40
again not the most cubrious place and um
23:43
he he's basically a sex offender so on
23:46
this list there's a lot of fraudsters a
23:47
lot of drug idiots but he's just an
23:50
outright rapist and sex offender. Um,
23:53
and I think he's from Scotland. So, he'd
23:55
done a lot of crimes in Scotland, come
23:57
down to the Benador Costa Blanket
23:59
hideout, as they sometimes do. Continued
24:02
his, you know, his his his spree of um
24:04
abuse and and assault. And they picked
24:07
him up, picked him up in Madrid. Another
24:09
another win for the good guys, I would
24:10
say.
24:12
>> Wasn't there one of them picked up in
24:13
Belgium? Wasn't one in Belgium? Even one
24:16
of these four? I
24:17
>> think one of them was in Belgium,
24:18
actually. really amazing. Did they
24:22
announce that, didn't they? On on a on a
24:24
most wanted in Spain and somewhere
24:26
someone who must have seen this guy
24:27
goes, "Yeah, he was there. He's now in
24:29
Belgium or in Brussels." You know, was
24:31
he coming back?
24:32
>> Dylan Lamb, 33, was arrested in Belgium
24:35
in June.
24:37
>> Yeah.
24:38
>> Excellent. I mean, I have to say, we we
24:40
started working with these guys years
24:42
ago, and we used to put their mug shot
24:43
sometimes on the front page, but mostly
24:45
on page two, which is our traditional
24:47
crime page to scare people. I swear this
24:49
is true. Three different uh Crims people
24:53
contacted us about them and two of them
24:55
were arrested. One on one occasion um we
24:59
got a call. We was working with Martin
25:01
Brunt from Sky was there at with us at
25:03
the launch in in Malaga and we got a tip
25:07
off about an hour after we put it on our
25:08
website that this guy was living in a a
25:11
camper van in a car park in Fuerola and
25:14
he was basically a pedo. He was a sex
25:16
offender in the UK and had was wanted
25:17
for various pedophile offenses. And um
25:20
we were told where he was living,
25:21
exactly the car park where he was parked
25:23
up in. So I said to Martin, "Look, we've
25:25
got this tip. If you want to come along
25:26
and do it for for for Sky News, you're
25:29
welcome." So we rocked up at this place
25:31
having told the police, obviously the
25:33
the British police, Scotland Yard were
25:35
delighted and of course they work hand
25:36
inhand with Guadia Seville. So we were
25:38
told that they would go down there that
25:40
evening. So we we rocked up down at this
25:42
weird little kind of camping area in
25:44
Fererala where there were about let's
25:46
say 20 or 25 of these vans and sure
25:49
enough we saw this guy sort of like
25:51
creepy looking bloke kind of came in
25:53
with his dog and sort of wandered into
25:55
his white sort of camper van big camper
25:58
van and he was inside the camper van
26:00
from about half 5 6:00 and we were
26:02
waiting there to about 8:00 at night
26:04
wondering what the hell was going on you
26:06
know we couldn't didn't want to go knock
26:07
on his door and you know asking no and
26:08
sure enough suddenly of eight police all
26:11
turned up, sirens, the cars all turn up
26:14
and they swooped on it and of course Sky
26:16
News had it live. We were there getting
26:18
our camera, you know, we're filming it
26:19
or taking we weren't filming it
26:20
unfortunately. We were taking pictures
26:21
back then back in the day
26:23
>> and he was lifted and uh taken into
26:26
custody. So that was brilliant. And then
26:27
another time we we got a tip off that
26:29
there was a guy who was a bank robber
26:30
who was living in a little village
26:32
called Pruna which is about 20 minutes
26:35
from Rhonda in the middle of nowhere in
26:37
the Seville province, the wilds of
26:38
Sevilla. And uh so we kind of rocked up
26:41
in this tiny little village. There's
26:42
about 1,500 people there, of which 500
26:45
were Brits, like really scuzzy Brits.
26:47
And sorry if you live in Pruner and
26:48
you're not scuzzy, but there really were
26:50
lots of scuzzy Brits living around
26:52
there. And sure enough, we went to this
26:54
guy's house and parked up outside, me
26:56
and a photographer, and we sat there for
26:58
hours in the car. Eventually, this guy
27:00
came out, I kid you not, in an England
27:02
football shirt, walked out to the corner
27:04
shop, bought himself some milk, and we
27:06
got absolutely brilliant photographs,
27:08
like head-on pictures of this guy as he
27:10
walked down the street, broad daylight.
27:12
>> So, we then like sent this to Scotland
27:15
Yard, and they're like, "Yeah, yeah,
27:17
that's him. Definitely brilliant. Thanks
27:18
a lot." And so, we were like, "Well, you
27:20
know, this is a week before our
27:21
deadline." And uh we said, "Well, we
27:24
know obviously when let us know when
27:26
you're going to raid it and arrest him.
27:28
we'd like to put this in our newspaper
27:29
next week. And they were like, yeah,
27:30
yeah, we'll let you know. It'll be
27:31
anytime now. Anyway, got to the next
27:33
week on the Tuesday. Still hadn't
27:35
arrested him. And we were like, well,
27:37
we're going to print, you know, we got
27:38
every two weeks we've got to put this
27:40
story in the paper. And they were like,
27:41
well, we're trying really hard, but you
27:43
know, they're not doing. I said, we
27:44
listen, we can't wait another two weeks.
27:46
We've done our job. We found this guy.
27:48
We've tracked him out. We've spoken to
27:49
neighbors. We've done the whole thing.
27:51
We're not we're going to run the story
27:52
on the front page. And they're, "Oh,
27:54
please don't." I said, "No, no, we can't
27:55
wait two more weeks." So he ran the
27:56
story in the front page, not wanted,
27:59
with a with a picture of this guy all
28:01
with his England shirt, but with a cross
28:02
over his head, not wanted anymore, even
28:04
though he's he's a bank robber. He's on
28:06
the 100 most wanted list. But apparently
28:08
he's not wanted. And we told the uh
28:10
Scotland Yard that if they didn't pick
28:13
him up, our newspaper would be on the
28:15
streets by sort of 9:30, 10 the next
28:17
morning. Chances are he'd pick it up
28:18
around then and he would do a runner. So
28:21
guess what? The next morning at
28:23
literally half past 8 in the morning
28:25
they kicked his front door down the
28:26
guard seil and nicked him. So we we came
28:29
out with this newspaper not of course
28:31
they actually had nicked him that
28:32
morning but you know we had to wait two
28:34
weeks until we could actually then
28:35
report that arrest there. Wow. Did we
28:38
did our we did our bit and again I have
28:40
to say I'm going on again but the truth
28:42
is in 2019 one of the guys on this list
28:45
if you go and look in the paper today or
28:47
look on our website one of the guys
28:49
Kevin Paul we saw in Madrid when
28:52
Liverpool bang Tottenham in the
28:53
Champions League final we knew that he
28:55
was going to be in in Madrid because we
28:57
heard from various sources Kevin Paul
29:00
6'4 in ginger-haired guy horrible
29:03
looking bloke was going to be in Madrid
29:05
for to watch his beloved Liverpool he's
29:07
wanted in Liverpool for shooting,
29:08
killing two people. There he is likely
29:11
to be in Madrid and police are thinking
29:13
he's, you know, he's bound to turn up
29:14
for this game. You at least he's going
29:16
to be in in Madrid for the warm up, the
29:18
buildup. And anyway, I'm in the Reign of
29:21
Victoria art gallery that morning taking
29:23
a bit of culture and trying to not just
29:24
be the classic football fan. I'm a Spurs
29:26
fan, you know, obviously. I thought we
29:28
could do a bit more culture. and we were
29:29
covering it for the Olive Press round
29:31
the clock and had four journalists in
29:33
Madrid and two of us were in the Reign
29:34
of Victoria Museum when sure enough
29:36
Kevin PL walks into the the art gallery.
29:40
Couldn't believe it. This guy I'm like
29:41
that's Kevin Paul. Looked on the phone.
29:43
It was definitely Kevin Pal. So we
29:45
followed him around a bit and actually
29:47
got pictures of him as he walked towards
29:49
me and I swear I thought the guy was
29:51
going to kill me and he could see that I
29:53
he knew I taken a picture but he
29:55
couldn't kind of prove it. So I put the
29:57
camera away quickly and then we sent it
30:00
to Scotland Yard. They're like, "Yeah,
30:01
it's definitely him." But where is he
30:03
now? You know, he's not there.
30:05
>> Yeah.
30:05
>> And he's still on the loose. I mean,
30:07
amazingly, this guy who who you just
30:09
look at him, it's extraordinary, isn't
30:10
he? Harry, you can't miss this guy. But
30:12
somewhere he's in Spain or Portugal
30:14
living and has done for years and
30:17
nobody's worked out where he is. He was
30:19
down in Puerto Boose from what I
30:21
understood a couple years ago working um
30:24
loading and unloading packages in in the
30:26
port and storing them in warehouses you
30:28
know convenient work for what he kn
30:32
>> and S grande isn't there an English
30:35
policeman who's been tracing him to for
30:37
years right Peter Blexley is called
30:39
isn't he has been
30:40
>> following him around he knows he's here
30:42
like he's got friends and sources who
30:44
are in touch with him but no one really
30:46
I think he moves around a lot so like
30:48
he'll be like maybe a few weeks in and
30:50
then he'll go to Mercuria and then he'll
30:52
move up to the Costalanca and then he'll
30:54
maybe go to Madrid or the Algav and it's
30:57
amazing right that no one's managed to
30:59
work out where he is.
31:00
>> What I don't understand is how you can
31:02
get away with not being found in today's
31:05
world where everything's online, you
31:07
know, there's so much photography,
31:09
social media, even just doing any
31:11
banking transactions, you know, you
31:14
know,
31:14
>> he'll be just he'll just be entirely in
31:16
cash. I mean, we're not talking about
31:17
someone who's kind of minor character.
31:18
He's a murderer or allegedly a murderer,
31:21
I should say.
31:22
>> Um, you know, how does how can a 6'4 guy
31:25
just disappear into the Aberian
31:27
Peninsula?
31:28
>> I mean, I know there's a lot of tourists
31:30
here like how many 100 million tourists
31:32
are going to arrive, aren't they, this
31:33
year, they estimate, in Spain. So, there
31:36
are millions of tourists. So, does he
31:37
just blend? Is he just in Benadorm or in
31:39
Tormolinos or people? because there's so
31:41
many tall 6'4 Dutch and Danes and Swedes
31:45
and Brits that he just blends in, you
31:48
know? I don't understand it.
31:50
>> That's why you got to keep getting the
31:51
wanted pictures out there because I
31:53
don't know about you, but if I saw
31:55
someone that looked like a wanted
31:57
person, I'd probably think, "No, it
31:59
can't be." You know, and then actually
32:02
it probably is. So, you have to keep
32:04
seeing it to really realize it is them.
32:06
>> Your your pick is probably the most
32:07
recent pick we have of him. That was 5
32:09
years ago or more. I don't know, six
32:11
years ago.
32:12
>> Seven years. Yeah. I mean, that's
32:14
probably the most most recent pick of of
32:16
And we weren't sure whether to put it on
32:18
the paper because we couldn't confirm
32:20
even though they said, "Yeah, that's
32:21
him." It would they couldn't confirm it
32:22
100%. So, we did actually run it and in
32:25
the paper and no one came back and said,
32:26
"That's some innocent guy rang."
32:29
>> Yeah. Cuz then it would be like, "Oh,
32:30
it's me." It wasn't. And we figured that
32:32
they would see the funny side of it if
32:33
we said this is him and it was someone
32:35
else.
32:35
>> So, but no one ever did. So, it must be
32:37
him. You know, assume it must be. Yeah.
32:40
Well, let's hope we find the ones that
32:42
are still wanted.
32:44
>> I reckon, I don't know about you,
32:44
Caroline, but I looked at those pictures
32:46
again this morning and I sure that two
32:49
of them I've seen around. I mean, I've
32:50
been around the Costas so much. I'm sure
32:53
two of them I've seen.
32:54
>> I mean, they look
32:55
>> really reckon
32:55
>> like a lot of people you could see here,
32:58
you know. I don't know if it's that.
33:01
I mean, I should also point out, I know
33:03
it's maybe if I should say it or not,
33:05
but I do I do think there's a large
33:08
percentage a higher percentage of sex
33:10
offenders and criminals amongst the
33:12
expat communities and that you would get
33:14
back home. I think I've I've often
33:17
thought this that if you said, you know,
33:20
>> one in seven or one in 10 people's a
33:21
child molester or one in 15's a rapist,
33:24
I think it'd be one in five and one in
33:26
seven here. You know, I I just think
33:28
people change their names. They move
33:29
abroad. They think it's easy to escape,
33:31
to hide.
33:31
>> No.
33:33
>> Yeah. Let's hope not.
33:35
>> Let's hope not. But, you know, people
33:36
never say their surnames. They always
33:38
give you their first name. You know, you
33:39
know him as Walt or Tony. You never
33:41
really know their surname.
33:42
>> But, I mean, you know, why do people
33:45
come here then? Why, if you're a
33:47
criminal, why would you come to the
33:48
Costadel Soul now?
33:50
>> Come on. I mean, isn't it obvious? It's
33:52
it's lovely lifestyle. All the reasons
33:54
that ex normal experts come here. It's a
33:56
lovely lifestyle and also because
33:58
there's nowhere else in the world while
33:59
you have so many foreigners who look
34:01
like you who basically help you blend
34:04
in. You know, you can go to
34:05
>> here and you've got other crooks to hide
34:07
out with. You know, if you if you're
34:09
just one crook in
34:11
>> Italy or or to Albania, not Albania, you
34:14
know, a random country, you you'd stick
34:16
out. But here, you can blend in.
34:17
>> No, Albania, good example, cuz you know,
34:19
you would really stand out, wouldn't
34:20
you, if you're like me or you, you know,
34:22
>> you would stand out. But you you would
34:24
stand out if they were looking for you,
34:26
you know. But here there are millions of
34:28
people. So there is nowhere as good as
34:30
as as Spain, I don't think, to hide out.
34:32
And and as and also don't forget there
34:35
are so many as we talked about in our
34:36
famous mafia podcast, the cost crime
34:39
podcast that they made so much money
34:41
bringing the drugs across from Africa
34:43
and cocaine and so they can make extra
34:45
fortunes here, you know, and there's so
34:47
much business to be made, you know, in
34:48
the black economy here, which is what
34:50
quarter of the economy, Walt, or 20%.
34:52
I've always guess guesstimated 30% in in
34:55
Costa del soul. I mean thing is if you
34:57
got the discipline and the money you you
34:58
could just say in a villa you know 90 90
35:02
days out of 100 um never go out. Not all
35:05
of them do you know. So these guys this
35:06
guy Kevin Paul who's always managed to
35:08
evade justice. He must be quite a smart
35:10
guy to do that. Um we know for example
35:12
Ross Monahan and Eddie Lions Jr. the
35:15
Scottish MafI guys they got shot
35:16
watching the Champions League final
35:18
because they broke cover. They'd spend
35:20
all their time in their villas under
35:21
maximum security. The one time they had
35:23
lost their discipline, you know.
35:25
>> Well, that yeah, that's why Kevin Pal
35:27
that's why they thought, is he going to
35:28
finally break cover and go to the
35:30
Champions League final in Madrid? Well,
35:31
I don't know if you know this, Walk, but
35:33
there were I think there were 150,000
35:36
fans for a game that was like 80,000
35:38
people. I mean, they were saying there
35:40
was like 60 70,000 Spurs fans of which
35:43
less than half had a ticket. So, so many
35:45
people were milling around Madrid at the
35:47
time. it was quite actually quite easy
35:49
for him to blend in and move around. So,
35:52
you know, I think they they take
35:54
calculated risks, don't they? I mean, I
35:55
remember was it um Kenneth Noi,
35:57
Britain's public enemy number one, the
35:59
guy that you know was wanted in the in
36:01
the in the gold bullion raids and also
36:03
who killed that guy on the M25, Steven
36:06
Cameron. He basically used to come to
36:08
the London pub in Fangarola to do his
36:10
business and he would turn up and people
36:12
say I've ke it was all over the press
36:15
front page in all the papers in England
36:16
and then he would rock up at the London
36:18
pub in fingerola do his business and
36:20
then get in his car and drive all the
36:22
way back to to Kadis to the cost two and
36:24
a half hours away and you know the
36:26
police would turn up going where is he
36:27
and looking around fingerola mikas tomos
36:31
long he was back in Atlant near to
36:33
Zahala de launes that's where he was
36:35
living and so he was able to hide for
36:37
three years down there. No one had a
36:38
clue where he was.
36:39
>> Only thing I'd say is if you do look at
36:41
some of these mug shots from the most
36:42
wanted,
36:43
>> they don't look don't look like the
36:45
sharpest, you know, tools in the
36:46
toolbox.
36:47
>> Well, they just look like to me, they
36:49
look like stereotypical
36:51
what you would think a mug shot would
36:53
look like, you know.
36:55
>> Yeah, it's true.
36:56
>> So, if you see them, do make sure you
36:59
contact us at Newses. Don't approach
37:01
them yourself. Contest at
37:02
newsestheress.es.
37:04
We'll do the rest for you. we'll do
37:06
everything else.
37:07
>> Okay, that's good advice. So, yeah, make
37:09
sure you do that. And, um, I think we've
37:11
talked enough about mug shots and wanted
37:13
people now, and I think we should talk
37:15
about fluffy animals instead. So,
37:17
there's a really nice story in the
37:19
paper.
37:21
>> About this lion hunt, which maybe wasn't
37:24
really a lion hunt. So, do you want to
37:25
explain about that one?
37:28
>> Yeah, it's sorry it, you know, I'm the
37:30
editor. It's silly season, end of
37:32
August. It was so quiet. Nothing
37:34
happening. Everyone was sick of the
37:35
weather, the heat, you know, we'd done
37:37
all that stuff, you know, all like and
37:39
suddenly
37:41
a a delivery man in the back of Toledo
37:44
allegedly spotted a lion um in the wild
37:47
in some crazy valley in, you know, an
37:49
hour out of Toledo,
37:51
>> you know, half an hour from any town
37:52
that you'd have ever heard of. And um he
37:55
uh that led to this crazy sort of like
37:58
police operation with helicopters and
38:00
drones and about 100 police searching
38:03
for this lion. And uh you know naturally
38:07
we thought well we should send someone.
38:09
So Kik Kirana who's uh our brilliant
38:13
Dutch reporter who loves getting in the
38:14
car and going up and do things. We
38:15
packed her off. She's up great thinking
38:17
it was going to be like an hour away you
38:18
know north of Rhonda. It's like sixhour
38:20
drive to get there. So she sort of
38:24
rocked up late in the evening. It was
38:25
too late. So she then had to obviously
38:26
stayed the night, got up and no one
38:30
there by then the police had long gone.
38:31
It's like 3 days later or something, two
38:33
days later. And um the police had long
38:36
gone. All the villagers were like no one
38:38
was hardly any was in the street and
38:39
they were like it was just a dog, you
38:42
know, it wasn't like it was bitten
38:45
pastine or something, you know, they
38:46
were. So she she spent a day traveling
38:48
around. She went to a zoo to ask if they
38:50
were sort of funny little zoo to see if
38:52
they were missing any lions. They
38:54
weren't. Um and um no one in the area
38:57
had ever heard of any lions or tigers or
39:00
any other wild cats going missing for
39:02
that matter. So who knows? I mean it's a
39:04
big country, right? You've been out
39:05
there. Everyone I hope a lot of our
39:07
reader driven around the wilds of
39:08
Castile Lancha. It's there's lots of
39:10
places for a lion to hide. So
39:12
>> h
39:13
>> I mean
39:14
>> but you know as as as Walt do you
39:16
remember with the wol that story we had
39:18
about the the lion and tiger hunters in
39:21
Bad Hoth who were paying €10,000 to
39:23
shoot animals that have been taken
39:26
basically bought from zoos and from
39:29
circuses and they were living on this
39:31
weird finker in um wilds of bad
39:34
literally an hour out of bad hoth some
39:36
absolute dumb place and they had about
39:39
10 or 15 of these cats
39:41
and they they'd been domesticated
39:43
practically. They're living in cages all
39:44
their lives. So these hunters would pay
39:46
€10,000 and they would set the lion out
39:49
or the tiger and then the hunters would
39:52
go out their guns and all their gear and
39:53
then the tiger would just sit there and
39:54
go, "What?" And they just bang the shoot
39:57
it
39:57
>> then they would like give him the head
39:59
and they could say like a trophy hunter.
40:00
They could go back to their house in
40:02
Holland or in America and say, "Oh, I I
40:05
shot a tiger or I shot a lion. I have it
40:07
on the end of their wall."
40:08
It was such a scand scandal and that was
40:12
so we thought maybe it was something
40:14
like that from those kind of escaped.
40:16
>> I see. Yeah.
40:17
>> Animals it might have been some sort of
40:18
racket like that you know and I mean it
40:21
could have been but
40:22
>> anyway.
40:24
>> Wow.
40:24
>> Lion hunt over.
40:25
>> Yeah. Lion hunt over. So it's been
40:27
interesting
40:28
>> interesting news this week and I hope
40:30
that people are going to report the
40:32
wanted. If you if you see any of the
40:34
wanted people, you need to get in touch
40:36
with Olive Press
40:37
>> or the lion.
40:39
>> Or the lion. Yeah.
40:40
>> Get a pick.
40:42
>> But the lion's not wanted. It's just
40:45
out there.
40:46
>> Yeah. Actually, you know what? If you
40:47
see the lion, let him just live in
40:49
peace. [laughter]
40:51
>> Yeah.
40:53
[clears throat]
40:53
Okay. Well, thanks for that, guys. That
40:55
was great. And um we'll see you next
40:57
time. Don't forget to subscribe to the
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