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Shalanda D. Young On Being The First Black Woman Named Director of Office of Management and Budget
Feb 1, 2023
Shalanda Delores Young is a political advisor who is the current director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), previously serving in an acting capacity from March 24, 2021, through March 17, 2022 concurrently as deputy director. She previously worked for the United States House Committee on Appropriations as its staff director.
Young sat down with Sway In The Morning to talk about her in managing a nationwide budget of trillions of dollars.
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Shalanda D. Young On Being The First Black Woman Named Director of Office of Management and Budget
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all right so right now we're sitting
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next to the first black woman to ever be
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appointed the director
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of office management and budget Shalonda
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young big round
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such a big title
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it's a little bit yeah you're in charge
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of a six trillion dollar budget uh that
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is what your budget your taxpayer I work
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for you you work for me I work for you
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okay so I'm you and you I need a small
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business loan
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is that possible I got a whole office
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down Pennsylvania Avenue a whole agency
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okay I'm gonna call somebody and make
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sure that you know all that's available
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to you absolutely uh congratulations you
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made history you know and a lot of times
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people end up in these positions but we
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don't know exactly how they got there
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can you tell our audience how did you
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arrive here uh one I hope you all agree
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with this but maybe not my ethos and
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like not by myself okay
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um on the backs of lots of lots of
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family members
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um who wished me and prayed me here uh
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and by some good dumb luck you come out
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of college you're looking for yourself
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um and a lot of people saw something in
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me and recommended me for things and
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ended up working in federal budget and
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then kept my ear to the ground who who
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is carrying the weight in this town and
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when I was young this committee kept
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coming up the Appropriations Committee
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the Appropriations Committee now I've
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taken civics class I don't remember that
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but they would call and people would
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stop what they were doing I was like I
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gotta go work for them so I got a chance
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to go work for the Appropriations
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Committee and Rose to be the staff
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director of the Appropriations Committee
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guess what they control how many of our
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kids get to go to Head Start they
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control how many funds our health
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centers get which many our communities
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rely on they control a 1.7 trillion
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dollars
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of this economy and I got to work for
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them and grew to lead the staff of it
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and that's how I got to know like the
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federal budget process and how the
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president found me and brought me over
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to serve him and I get to as you say
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manage six trillion dollars between all
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our entitlement programs Medicare Social
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Security and all the things we think
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about with regard to our social safety
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net in this country I get to do that I
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get to do that and here you are sitting
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here from Louisiana Baton Rouge it's
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small older than Baton Rouge I grew up
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in a little town outside of Baton Rouge
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if I told you the name you'd have to
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maybe look it up and it might be on
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Google okay and move to Baton Rouge for
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high school wow wow that's incredible
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Heather yeah that's what I want to talk
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about because you were talking about
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being prayed here and folks that pray
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for you and anytime I hear that I
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personally think of my grandmother and
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you were sharing some things about your
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grandmother and her rules do you mind
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sharing it again about her playing
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basketball and and her doing that
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amazing the first so I'm gonna call her
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after this to make sure she listens okay
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in the morning because she has lots of
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opinions about what I say when I talk
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about her but she's 94 and a half years
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young it's still in Clinton Louisiana
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um and I didn't have to look far from
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home people talk about mentors I have a
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grandmother
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um who worked when women didn't work who
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went to college and women didn't go to
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college I don't know how my
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great-grandparents knew to to push her
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towards that my mother also played
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college basketball I played Middle
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School basketball until my grandmother
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told me to play it she says not that
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you're not good
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that's awesome yes
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find some mail so I also was not coddled
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as a as a child so I came from like a
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whole whole host and long of of strong
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women and I'll share with you too I have
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a 15 month old so that that's the hard
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part of today I I have a 15 month old in
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addition to doing this job so I have a
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lot behind me pushing me but also have
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her looking at me which is what is a big
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driver for me and also the example what
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I'm doing this for and what we're all
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doing this for
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thank you so I want to say our audience
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is prime for civics and civics class so
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I love how you kind of leaned into that
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we're throwing out big terms right now
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six trillion dollars we talked about the
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office down the street which I'm
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assuming talk about United States small
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business administration so if you can do
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a quick civics class for our audience
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and break down how does that six
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trillion dollars what type of agencies
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does it go to can you talk about the
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agencies and then talk about how do you
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prioritize the allocation of which
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agencies gets which amount of funding
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first of all Civics and American history
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were my favorite class and I did not
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know that would lead me here I got to
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teach the class we were good in the
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class the teacher could pick you to
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teach for a day so that was my that was
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my class
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um and people should know that one of
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the things we're trying to do for my
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office we don't just do the budget we do
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the management piece so we we tell
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people we would like to use this 700
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billion dollars in purchasing power you
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as a government this is what we should
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be focused on so there's a lot more than
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presenting the budget it's how you uh
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turn the federal uh democracy the the
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agencies into something that Joe Biden
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ran on what he told people would do and
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therefore you need an agency like this
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one to put out instructions guidance and
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say we expect you to do this this way
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and that's what we do from this office a
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lot of the six trillion dollars are what
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we call entitlements so people know them
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as Social Security Medicare Medicaid
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children's health insurance those are
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the biggest parts of our federal budget
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but there are also things like Head
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Start Child Care block grants Health
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Care Centers hbcus
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Pell Grants a lot of that is in uh in
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our federal budget as well so the
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biggest dollars though are in those
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entitlement programs that you know you
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get when you're a bit older than all of
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us are
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uh Shalon I want to ask you when when
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you get hired into a position like this
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like when I got hired or we get hired on
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Sirius XM it's a different process than
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I would imagine getting hired to work
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for the president did he call you
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directly the day you got hired how did
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you find out so it is a process
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um and you do talk to him and I'm sure
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it goes differently with everyone
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um and you are then asked to serve uh
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and then you have to do a little process
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called the Senate confirmation process
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so you tell everybody all of your
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business your your financial business
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your personal business your neighbors
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call you and say the FBI just dropped by
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and uh asked about you uh so you should
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know your public servant so well vetted
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uh and so it is a long tedious process
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and that's why you hear the president
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when you serve him thank families
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because your families do go through a
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lot to get you here and really you need
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the support of them because it's a lot
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and you have to do a lot I went in front
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of two Senate committees testified about
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why I thought I was qualified and got
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bipartisan support out of the Senate to
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be confirmed into this job okay I want
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to thank you for being on the show it's
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great to sit next to someone who works
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so great with money uh so my last
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question is is if you had to put your
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bet on which NBA basketball team is the
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greatest of this era who would you place
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your best on
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so I told you I was from Louisiana so I
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have to shout out to the Pelicans
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however however
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I must congratulate our our Oakland
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friends our California friends the the
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Warriors and the house and the white
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house today uh it's nice to have them
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um you know we're we're all fans and one
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you have like nice people the curries
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are uh just just good people and it's
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nice to have them back on campus and
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feel some normalcy back uh after being
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living with covet we are finally
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starting to get some of those rhythms
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back so congratulations to you and the
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rest of uh Northern California uh
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including the VP I'm sure has on some
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Warrior Warrior colors today so she does
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uh notice I did not answer the question
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but congratulations
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well thank you and thank you for your
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service thank you so much absolutely
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