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you know um how do i start this
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met this young man a couple of years ago
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jack london square oakland
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found out that he was a producer he was
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producing one of the up and coming stars
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kamiyah
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and saw since then at the met the man's
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music done reached around the globe he's
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worldwide now representing the town
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right now and a whole new sound ct
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beats is with us right now ctbs what's
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up with you family
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young man was cracking hey hey hey hey
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hey man you remember where we met i do
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it was it was at the uh sway fest yep
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yep yeah and um
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i actually got pictures i was looking at
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pictures and i was going through it and
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it was like yo man this dude has
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really come a long way since then man um
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how you been
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first and foremost like how you been
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doing this quarantine
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i've been cool i've just been trying to
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you know stay busy working
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as a producer it's not that difficult
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but
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i do you know get to work from home i
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send out beats
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you know i'm saying i'm uh definitely
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talking to different artists you know
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i'm saying i'm still pulling up
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sessions when i can yeah you you sound
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like
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um you're moving like you're doing this
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all by yourself
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like you you just straight up hands on
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you making the beats you sending them
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out you locking it down with artists
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is that how you moving definitely
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definitely i am a sign i do got a deal
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so i'm always sending these to uh warner
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you know what i'm saying
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and uh we always uh defend me um
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but definitely when it comes to artists
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for me i work out of
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empire a lot so i'll be uh
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building relationships up there then
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i'll i'll send a
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pack out to the artist for sure okay um
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look man i want to give people a little
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bit of your history then we're going to
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dive into some of the things that
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got us talking today you know i know you
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from oakland california
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uh i'm familiar with the work you've
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done with youth rising
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you know and for and folks who don't
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know what that is can you explain what
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that is
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uh you the rising that's um that's
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that's that's the old-school spot right
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there but
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that's basically a community center uh
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for the youth for
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oakland you know i'm saying it's a spot
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we were able to go to
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they had studios that had uh programs
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they offered jobs you know they just try
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to be here for the kids that's around
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that area
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yeah you learned a lot of your skill set
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um
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while at the same time working with
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youth uprising but that ain't how you
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got into music you come from a musical
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background like was your family in the
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music
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or or did you get into music through the
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church
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um so my family does have a big
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background in music a lot of
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me and for my families are church
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musicians
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so that's kind of how i was brought up
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in the church i started playing drums
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around five
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with him and then they kind of moved to
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the keys so that's that's just something
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that you know we was
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you know we had to do church every
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sunday so the music
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i just gravitated towards it and that's
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that's my foundation for sure
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uh and so you learned how to play
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instruments in church
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um and and that was your introduction to
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music
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did you think you was going to go into a
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different genre well did you always want
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to be a rap producer
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or did you just want to be a a producer
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in general
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um i think gospel kind of introduced me
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to it
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and once i found out what music was
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because
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it was crazy because i'm i'm playing
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gospel songs
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and i was like and as i'm getting older
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i'm playing a radio
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and it's the same chords i'm like oh
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so i think i want to be a music producer
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because at first it was just gospel
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that's that's what my infinity my mom
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raised me in the church so it was just
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strictly that
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and as i got older i started thinking
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myself i'm like you know i think i just
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want to be
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a overall music producer
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that's that's interesting that like most
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people bro don't even know how to break
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down the constructs of a song like that
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that could even parallel how how to how
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how the chords are are the same in
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gospel songs that you hear in popular
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music today right
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so you read and write music or you just
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i play all right here
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you play everything by ear everything
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about you like i said i was
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i was raised in a church so as a drummer
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you're just picking it up and then you
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hop on and there's four of the drummers
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in there and i was always like the last
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german because i was the youngest
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you know everybody else trying to get on
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the drums and i'm like you know if you
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get this man i'm about to go to the keys
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and nobody
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else was on the keys so once i learned
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the keys and the structure of a chord
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and
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that just taught me everything about
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music and
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i can make anything i can replay
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anything anything i hear
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you could play it who who were at that
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time you know who like
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some of the producers that were out at
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that time that you liked like who did
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you admire
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is this is this early 2000s or when is
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this
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um so this is like maybe old
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maybe all the way to like 0809 okay
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transition period where i was i kind of
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dived into it and i just
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did it every day of my life so the
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producers i was hot at that time
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kanye kanye for show you know what i'm
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saying
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uh you got many fresh
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you got timberland you got swiss beats
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and you got dr dre
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those were the ones that i was really
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focused on you know i'm saying i was
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really like playing that music over and
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over and over and over again
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one album that stood out the most was
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that yin yang twins me and my brother so
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around that
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the era is is where i was really
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learning how to
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yo that's crazy because uh being from
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the bay
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i'm trying to think you didn't name one
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bait producer so
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that's the hyphy movement so when i
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started producing it was right before
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the hyphy move
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uh-huh and the hyphy boom it came that's
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that's my whole sound that's that's kind
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of where
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you know i was a youngster coming into a
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man so when you talk about the heiki
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movement you feel me you talking about
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drew down you talking about drooping on
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the beach you talking about rick rock
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and i'm saying you talking about all of
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those producers in that area that kind
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of birth
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kind of my style but they got still kind
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of got that
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musicality to it i'm still playing
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chords you know i'm saying that not a
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lot of producers
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do that where i'm from or even to me in
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the industry now
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and they don't really know everything
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that they're doing
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if the courts if the if the sample was
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more popular than the live chords
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why not do the sample oh i mean you can
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do both
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if i mean um i don't know if if a lot of
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people know but i did uh
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how does it feel and that was but i
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didn't sample the track
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i just replayed it so it's still
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considered a sample
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but some people like now but you're
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going to take from me you didn't use the
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actual track but
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i kind of did still sample because i use
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the chords for me so that's kind of like
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how i simple because i just replay it
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you just replay an interpolation i think
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that yeah that they call it that
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when you first heard um how does it feel
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on the radio bro i'll just share this
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with you um prior to doing radio me and
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my partner king tech who's from hey
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where we put out music
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in the bay right and i remember the
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first time we had a song
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i want to say called four minutes of
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death or something it's just me rapping
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on it
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and uh to do kevin kevin kcsu stanford
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played the song bro it's the first time
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i ever heard
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like something i did on the radio
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i swear that day i thought i made it
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like i was like
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i was yo
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what was that like when you first heard
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that song on the radio where were you
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so i think i was think i was at home
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and um and my wife
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was the one that caught it on the radio
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because we heard that he was gonna come
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on the radio but he was waiting so we
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just had to
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the radio on and he was waiting and i
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think
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when it came on she just started
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screaming so that's that's when i kind
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of knew
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me in that moment i mean you know it was
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it was surreal
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i've been doing this all my life and you
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know with camayo
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he was youngsters when we started
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feeling all since she was 16 i think i
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was 18.
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to go from there to
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actually he is it's just an
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undescribable feeling
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yeah yeah that that was like a dream
8:49
come true like i finally
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you know it's actually happened 106 is
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actually playing
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give me my music like and then they
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started coming
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you know after bottle came while y'all
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was hating kane and i was like oh yeah
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okay so we're doing this now
9:06
it's real it's very real and then you
9:09
start seeing things around you change
9:11
the trees don't even look the same no
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more everything
9:15
people i'm i'm a workaholic especially
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when it comes to music music is
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something i love doing
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so it's become my job it really wasn't a
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job for me
9:24
for me so becoming a young man having
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kids
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uh you know they don't always pay the
9:30
bills so you got to figure out
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how can i be this producer and still you
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feel me
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get my money be a father do everything i
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got to do so i will always
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find myself getting jobs
9:44
i went from cleaning walls and stuff i
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was a janitor
9:48
when i first started and then i ended up
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being a studio manager
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so it was like levels to it so even now
9:55
today like i officially take it for me a
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little school job because i like working
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with kids
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so i'm i'm working in oakland right now
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with a school that my teacher music
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you know teach me how to make beats i
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teach i teach uh the programs and all of
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that so
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i mean like i said it was that day was
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it was just surreal man to because i
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really do this this this ain't no game
10:15
this ain't no
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defending or we doing it for me just
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because we're not
10:19
this is this i'm doing it my family
10:21
doing it everything
10:24
so it was it was definitely even to this
10:26
day when i still get accomplishments
10:28
it's still surreal yeah
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it could you know honestly it really
10:33
hasn't even been that long
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you know what i mean like and so it it
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it probably feel i would imagine like
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it's a whole lot of stuff coming at once
10:43
and then the other thing that you and
10:44
kamiyah were able to do that no one had
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done in a long time
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i'm really trying to think if anyone has
10:50
really done it like she's really the
10:52
first
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female rapper to come out of the bay
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solo rapper you know what i mean
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female rapper to become a national star
11:03
yeah and then sweetie came you know
11:07
afterwards and doing what she's doing
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and it's incredible but you know we had
11:11
conscious daughters and other groups
11:13
back in the day
11:14
three five seven but that's a milestone
11:18
that's groundbreaking that to me
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is a is a notch in bay area history
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did did y'all did y'all understand that
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at the time did you know what was
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happening
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so at the time um i was
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i was so focused on
11:35
because i'm even back then my
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my level of producing was at a certain
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level to where when people
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know they got all my music it was being
11:44
taken serious
11:46
so with with me and kamaya in the duo
11:49
were my work ethic like we was knocking
11:51
out tracks 10 tracks a night
11:53
you feel me like i don't know how it
11:56
really happened but
11:57
just with her steering it and whatever
11:59
move she made or whatever move she busts
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it just put us in a situation where we
12:05
we just wanted to be
12:06
so yeah like i i don't i don't really
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know
12:11
it wasn't planned out we didn't know
12:14
what it did you know i'm saying
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he was making music he was making it
12:17
because for me that's what we do
12:20
she she'll be at work i remember she
12:22
used to work security and she
12:24
texted me audios just a cappellas i mean
12:27
12 1 o'clock in the morning like
12:29
make a beat around this so it was just
12:31
that drive and that hustle
12:33
that kind of really got us to work that
12:36
that one song that just took off i mean
12:39
um now it's an incredible song it was
12:42
like a whole movement and it just kind
12:43
of
12:44
y'all gave us a lot of insight into what
12:46
the bay was doing at that time
12:47
you know what i mean like like hands-on
12:50
but i would imagine
12:52
um as a producer just as a producer man
12:56
like
12:57
[ __ ] to have your song like have a song
12:59
or songs you do
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do that well must be a big
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accomplishment
13:04
but i i even shot you this text man but
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you got the biggest
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rapper in the game on always hate
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spit on your [ __ ]
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come on man so that's why i'm saying at
13:20
that time
13:21
like to be honest i was 2016 when i
13:25
think about when i think back
13:27
i i can hardly remember that time
13:30
because it was just so
13:32
it just wasn't happening but yeah
13:36
santa so how does it feel to get on the
13:38
radio just out the bottle
13:40
and then you know i hit me like they
13:43
bout to fly us out
13:44
i'm like what you feel me so we her
13:47
first time flying we hop on the plane
13:49
go to l.a make 10 tracks maybe like a
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week
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like a week or two later yg fooled me
13:56
out and he called me
13:58
what you doing i'm like [ __ ] i'm about
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to fly you out because we ran into a
14:02
little
14:03
little issues with the sample but uh he
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flew me out
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and that's the first time i heard drake
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on it and i was just like
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i wasn't really understanding what was
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happening
14:15
mm-hmm saying the song i'm like just
14:17
clapping come on on the hook
14:18
and drake come on it's just like you
14:21
know
14:22
it's one of the moments where you look
14:23
around like wait a minute
14:26
is this is this dragon yg looked at me
14:28
like yup
14:29
that's a play right there i'm like oh so
14:31
i just kind of left that song
14:33
i just sunk into the couch you feeling
14:35
it was just like whoa
14:37
this is this crazy yeah yeah
14:40
you you it's it's confirmation though
14:42
too like
14:44
you know think about i mean i know you
14:46
know you nice at what you do you played
14:47
your whole life but
14:49
we still you know it's good to have that
14:50
confirmation when you got the number
14:52
with the biggest artist on the
14:53
game right definitely yeah and i was
14:57
like
14:59
yeah it's like yeah but this really this
15:02
really could happen for you
15:03
bro you know where i'm from a lot of
15:06
people do music
15:07
i'm saying a lot of people rap and a lot
15:09
of people produce
15:11
and i'll never think i'm better than
15:13
nobody i mean i ain't never been
15:15
my attitude so if anything for me is
15:19
there's producers out here that go crazy
15:21
that go way harder to me but
15:23
people say it's something about your
15:25
music that just
15:26
you feel me so i take that and you feel
15:30
me and i'm like i appreciate it
15:31
and for drake for drake to hop on and
15:34
you can
15:34
shout out to town like that i'm like
15:40
that was big um let's talk about some of
15:42
those producers because
15:44
i'm excited about being from the bay
15:47
and seeing what's happened and i'm
15:48
excited about it and there's a lot of
15:50
guys like the mechanics to me
15:52
um
15:55
are i've become barrier architects you
15:58
know in
15:58
in their longevity and their consistency
16:02
their willingness to work with a lot of
16:04
you know bay area talent
16:05
you know over the years you're doing the
16:07
same thing you're building up your
16:09
repertoire
16:10
and banks you know back in the day you
16:12
know hbk doing their things beethoven
16:14
you know people don't be repping no
16:16
reppin that jaytover really
16:18
we know him from the bay when he was
16:19
working with clyde and and uh jt the
16:22
bigger figure
16:23
you know um what is the camaraderie like
16:26
like do you the mechanics collab a lot
16:29
do you and droop
16:30
collab a lot who do you collab with
16:33
so right now the mechanics i i have not
16:36
touched the mechanics yet they got a
16:38
real
16:39
core sound that's real
16:42
they and a lot of people think you know
16:44
me and they sound just kind of similar
16:46
when they come to certain beasts but
16:47
those is like idols for me
16:51
and they still doing their thing and i
16:53
haven't touched them yet in particular
16:55
when they compare you it's a good thing
16:57
though you don't see it as a
16:59
slight at all because i said those are
17:01
like two
17:02
producers i look
17:14
um but as far as other producers when i
17:17
first
17:18
started out i was more so to myself like
17:21
can i even get this on my own
17:22
i didn't really collab like that um but
17:25
once i got
17:26
signed and um now that i'm in the
17:29
industry
17:29
i mean that's what it's all about it's
17:31
all about collabing all about building
17:33
relationships so now
17:35
like i said i'm a whole musician so it's
17:38
real easy for me to collab with
17:39
producers you know i'm saying i'll go in
17:41
and play some stuff play some leagues
17:42
they put some drums on it
17:44
and mostly that's what it's been lately
17:47
and
17:47
i've been an empire and empire kind of
17:50
being the spot
17:52
me and uh what's the name of academics
17:56
uh me and his tradition ain't linked up
17:58
you clapping on my
18:00
command stuff that's a producer named
18:02
drew drew banger
18:04
gonna be uh collabing on a lot of stuff
18:06
uh and as far as the industry go
18:08
my label has sent me to atlanta and i uh
18:11
collab with a lot of um
18:13
michael producer for me and
18:16
you know i'm just i'm still trying to
18:17
trying to venture out though
18:19
i'm saying trying to try to shake some
18:21
of my hands
18:22
is it is it a different studio culture
18:24
when you go to atlanta than when you win
18:25
the bay
18:26
oh yeah man i want to show love you know
18:28
what i'm saying like
18:30
atlanta is a spot where even even just
18:33
flying in going to the airports number
18:35
black people so
18:37
they they really support each other you
18:39
know i'm saying they
18:40
like every producer that i collab with
18:42
it was hella friendly
18:44
you know i'm saying they all like man
18:45
you the goat you did this you did that
18:47
so
18:48
it was it was real respectful and
18:49
whenever i go i mean
18:51
i love it i like them stories
18:55
um about like when you make a beat for
18:58
somebody else and somebody else hears it
19:01
and go man i want to get on that joint
19:02
you know you know how many times have
19:05
that happened to you
19:06
all the time give me examples give me a
19:08
couple examples of somebody heard of me
19:11
so i'm like um an empire like
19:14
that's where i've been lately out there
19:16
in the city and um
19:19
like i said me and linked up we've been
19:20
working on a lot of uh i think
19:22
a lot last project he did basically the
19:25
whole thing
19:27
and every time we was making the track
19:30
you feel me she'll come through like
19:32
just right here slapping and then you
19:34
can
19:35
jack boys up in there he hopped on the
19:37
feature and i mean she sent one of mazzy
19:39
i mean he hopped on it so it's like to
19:42
me are you
19:43
that's basically for me i go like i'm
19:45
getting these placements with this other
19:46
producer and i mean he just mobbed
19:48
so it's like that i like it man uh
19:52
ct beats he hanging out with us he on
19:55
the rise man if you don't know him
19:57
get to know him uh when we talk to
19:59
producer talk
20:00
i gotta ask you this because things have
20:02
changed uh since the early days
20:04
you know what i mean a good night in the
20:06
ghetto days and now
20:08
when you work it's a business a lot of
20:11
times when you collab
20:12
in these studios folks are just throwing
20:13
in information and
20:15
how often have we heard these stories of
20:17
people saying they're not getting a
20:18
publishing they're not getting a splits
20:20
you know i'm sure things have changed
20:23
for how you function from the early days
20:25
in the studio to now did you learn
20:29
what was the the biggest loss you took
20:31
as a producer
20:33
that you learn from
20:36
um so when it comes to the business like
20:40
especially with me and kamiyah
20:41
at the beginning like i said
20:45
so you feel me having all that money at
20:48
once
20:49
and then you know me having a song with
20:51
yg
20:52
was a lot of politics involved um
20:56
yg tried to sign me you know and it was
21:00
maybe six different labels trying to
21:01
sign me at the time so
21:04
i was real back and forth with you know
21:06
from the streets i'm from the streets so
21:09
[ __ ] put you on like that i mean you
21:10
got a row
21:12
questions he just put me on he just gave
21:15
me a platinum
21:16
platinum record you know what i'm saying
21:17
so off tops i'm like
21:19
why for show these songs i'm saying but
21:22
uh
21:23
you know i had a lot of people in my ear
21:24
at the time like i said i don't know
21:27
remember what happened but to me i end
21:30
up going with warner
21:31
they had a better deal for me at the
21:32
time okay
21:35
and to this day i'm not sure
21:38
if that was the right direction to go or
21:41
if it wasn't
21:42
i've been on my level for like four
21:43
years and just recently finally we got
21:46
that
21:46
that beyonce saying so i'm like oh
21:49
that's
21:51
you know what i'm saying i'm still back
21:52
and forth with like if i would have won
21:54
yg you know how how how would it have
21:57
turned out what i have
21:58
for me got through more publishing deals
22:00
what i have hooked up with mustard
22:02
well i became a main producer or for me
22:05
me being on my own
22:07
with warner you tell me is this the best
22:09
route so
22:10
i don't really know if it's an ale yet
22:13
you know
22:13
i don't know if i took a lawsuit as far
22:16
as
22:17
you being can be signed yet well let me
22:19
let me ask you this how did you not
22:21
sign it with him affect your
22:23
relationship with him or did it at all
22:25
it was it was bad for me
22:27
oh it's bad okay call me like you stop
22:30
you start with my [ __ ] i'm like
22:32
man and then we just stopped talking for
22:34
me
22:35
and i reached out a few times but it
22:37
just really was no response and then you
22:39
know him and kamaya had their own
22:41
separate issues so you think the reason
22:44
why i mean but now we good like i still
22:45
i still send tracks to him sometimes he
22:47
responded slapped when i'm saying it's
22:49
gone
22:50
but uh yeah we did we did fall off for a
22:53
minute though so
22:54
yeah that's interesting bro like it's it
22:58
two years from now y'all won't even be
22:59
tripping on it you know what i mean the
23:01
first few months
23:02
we're not tripping on it right now he
23:04
talked about he even flew me out
23:06
to me like a couple years ago to vegas
23:08
and i mean i was like man
23:10
my bad about that that's the business
23:13
yeah that's the business i i i can't um
23:19
man you you gotta what you got the
23:23
melody track the ic track right
23:25
yeah and uh ivy park adidas
23:29
commercial
23:32
you didn't take an l bro there you go
23:37
you got beyonce now that it's another
23:40
this is not a knock on yg i'm just
23:41
saying the
23:42
right because he probably could have got
23:43
you beyonce who's to say but
23:46
you got your music in a beyonce
23:49
advertisement
23:51
you're from the bay area there you go
23:53
you know what i mean
23:54
there you go come on you're in you're in
23:56
the communities man you know i know
23:58
people that know you
23:59
i know what you about that's a w
24:03
bro you made a decision that led you to
24:06
a beyonce commercial you don't even have
24:07
to question that no more
24:08
how does that even work like i know i'm
24:11
assuming you haven't met her
24:13
no i haven't okay i said we did the
24:16
track
24:16
2017 on the track the song been out
24:20
and really you know like
24:24
two weeks ago they hit me with the email
24:26
like approve this request i'm like
24:28
request for what and i saw beyonce name
24:32
on there and ivy park
24:34
i had to like you know somebody else
24:36
read this what to say what is this
24:38
so yeah that's that's just the i
24:42
i gotta give it up to the label for that
24:43
one they they did a
24:46
ryan press shout out ryan press because
24:48
he the one that signed me
24:49
warner and he got he got the the
24:52
placement for
24:53
for um nelly for so icy so he made all
24:56
that happen
24:57
he made that happen bro you got to look
24:59
at it like if
25:01
if you just kind of wrote a list of your
25:04
accolades to point
25:05
you know um we were just talking about
25:08
you with drake on one of your songs and
25:09
now we got beyonce
25:11
everything that comes to our camp is
25:13
approved by beyonce bro
25:14
so you're looking at this commercial and
25:16
the first thing you hear is ct beats
25:19
come on man yeah that's that
25:24
that took me a while i ain't gonna lie i
25:26
was uh i was in l.a
25:28
when she posted it and i was actually at
25:30
a studio house with kamat
25:32
i mean and it took me it took me some
25:35
hours
25:36
to really i was tripping i'm like man
25:39
this is this real this really happened
25:41
like y'all understand where i come from
25:44
y'all understand
25:45
what we go through out here you know
25:47
what i'm saying focus my energy
25:49
on music and it actually worked but i i
25:53
wasn't i wasn't supposed to be here you
25:54
can know what impossible you can live
25:56
this long and unlike that while from so
25:57
it's like
25:59
yeah still it's still surreal to me it's
26:02
still surreal huh i still go to her page
26:04
and be like damn
26:05
that's crazy that's amazing man
26:08
um i'm trying to think what's the clip
26:10
of the kamaya video i was watching
26:13
i think you might have posted where
26:14
everybody's on the rooftop of a
26:16
apartment building that's still i am
26:18
still i am
26:19
um you and kamaya got a really
26:23
really unique relationship to me man
26:25
like uh you know i don't know the inner
26:27
workings of it but y'all y'all really
26:29
for the bay area have really
26:30
really done some monumental things in a
26:33
short amount of time
26:34
and you're still in your prime and y'all
26:36
done it independently which is
26:38
you know which is bonkers how has your
26:40
relationship
26:42
endured you know through through this
26:44
success and
26:45
and through the politics what is the
26:47
nature of your relationship now
26:49
so right now we good that's this right
26:51
here i mean okay
26:52
until until days is over because
26:56
you know one thing at the time i was
26:58
working with kamar i was working with
27:00
maybe 40 other artists in the bay just i
27:02
was always told as a producer
27:04
don't put all your eggs in one basket i
27:06
mean plant
27:08
plant as many eggs as you can in every
27:10
basket that's around you
27:11
and kamaya's just one of those baskets
27:14
and
27:14
the commitment we made to each other was
27:16
for me if i make it you make it if you
27:18
make it i'll make it what i'm saying
27:20
and for her to keep that commitment like
27:22
she didn't call no other producer
27:24
when they want to fly her out she
27:26
actually was like i can't go
27:29
without my producer so the producer
27:31
order
27:32
uh the producer and the artist
27:34
relationship is probably the most
27:36
important thing when it comes to making
27:37
a song
27:39
for you to have somebody that you can
27:40
trust with your music
27:42
and in a time like that like the label
27:45
hit us we was out there
27:47
and that night like i said we made 10
27:49
tracks
27:50
so we've always had a strong
27:53
relationship a strong bond
27:54
when the business hit like i said
27:56
politics got involved money got involved
27:59
uh she hated my manager at the time
28:02
kind of fell off he fed me and for like
28:04
a year or two
28:05
i mean we didn't tell no no record
28:07
finding no tracks for
28:09
and um but since but since we have went
28:13
through that
28:13
and talked about it we've gotten
28:16
stronger
28:16
yeah he was a little younger than we're
28:18
a little older now
28:21
and we're like man like forget all that
28:23
politics and get on with everybody
28:25
talking about
28:25
when it comes to this music that's our
28:27
dream and that's what we're gonna do
28:29
and we need each other to get to where
28:31
we're going i mean
28:33
i'm [ __ ] with you you same thing you
28:35
feel me go both ways and
28:37
like i said now we stronger than ever we
28:39
won't
28:40
really deal with no boot no bs what i'm
28:42
saying when they come to other producers
28:44
i'm friendly
28:44
you know what i'm saying i collab with
28:46
everybody showing me to collab with
28:48
and and we just locked in for me
28:51
see that's in that and that's real right
28:53
there because it ain't nothing in the
28:54
rulebook that said that the people
28:57
you you down with is always going to be
28:59
hunky dory like the business always
29:01
shakes [ __ ] up right
29:03
and the time that y'all were apart from
29:06
each other who who was it that
29:08
made to put out the olive branch who who
29:11
reached out to say hey man let's
29:13
let's chop it up i mean i think we both
29:15
did i think
29:16
for a long time we didn't hit each other
29:20
i think i hit her on instagram a few
29:22
times like we need to
29:24
we need to get back in and log back in
29:26
because i'm in my deal
29:28
and my deal really ain't moving too much
29:29
because you're the artist that i really
29:31
got signed with
29:32
[Music]
29:34
so me and yg kind of ain't really
29:36
working right now because
29:38
for me and then with me and you not
29:40
working
29:41
my music production was just slowing
29:43
down
29:44
like for me until i get to a certain
29:46
level we got to work
29:48
you know what i'm saying and we
29:50
reconnected maybe like a year or two
29:52
after that little fallout
29:53
we've been locked in ever since i love
29:55
it yeah i got something special man come
29:58
on you have to go through that to get to
29:59
this
30:00
yeah so that that's that's part of the
30:01
story yeah that's all that's all a part
30:03
of the story
30:04
um you you keep bringing up where you
30:08
from specifically what neighborhood you
30:10
from
30:11
i was raised on 35th davis right there
30:14
in
30:14
east oakland okay i spent a lot of time
30:17
in the deep
30:17
that's what that's where youth uprising
30:19
is it's on 88th and mac
30:21
for me so i would spend too many months
30:24
over the years so that's that's kind of
30:26
what i
30:26
want from you know i'll say i'm from
30:28
east oakland from
30:30
the deep park to the exact same time how
30:33
hard was it to
30:34
like you know you got to be from oakland
30:36
to get it you know what i mean but
30:38
it's it's it's hard not to get caught up
30:41
in oakland definitely let me have my
30:43
little run-ins
30:44
yeah okay being from the town like i
30:47
mean
30:48
you the certain one you got to walk
30:50
around out here so
30:51
you feel me but like i said i i came
30:53
into a little trouble
30:55
and i i found out that i ain't really
30:56
what i want to do
30:58
so i'm going to really pursue this music
31:01
you know what i'm saying
31:02
but yeah like i didn't i mean i didn't
31:04
have i mean
31:05
i've been shot at i mean i had
31:09
over 20 pounders down the street so i'm
31:11
definitely
31:12
right there for me in that part of
31:14
oakland where it's like
31:15
and that's why it's so effective of what
31:18
we're doing
31:18
like it's yeah it's it's accomplishments
31:21
yeah i'm doing my thing
31:22
but for me it's it's different because
31:25
it's like
31:26
you know we wasn't like me being from
31:28
church even my family wasn't always with
31:30
me doing sex with music so even with me
31:33
doing it
31:34
and giving them sometimes saying you
31:36
know they don't work out you can do the
31:38
job once you want
31:39
and then for me to really do it i mean
31:42
for me to
31:42
get paid for to make a living off of it
31:45
it's just touching so many different
31:46
areas
31:47
in my wife being from oakland yeah
31:51
man you were so many people and i i keep
31:54
pointing this out
31:55
you know because it it it's been a long
31:58
time you've been at this but it's been
31:59
it hasn't been that long that the world
32:02
know you on this level
32:03
you know and what i think is important
32:05
is one of the things i appreciate that
32:06
you do two things
32:08
you know because uh i know you work with
32:10
pee wee a long way who
32:12
who's my homie yeah
32:15
another one i actually hit him up he
32:17
said he said he was for me but we ain't
32:19
really locked in again yet
32:21
okay yeah he's a i like that dude man
32:23
he's an interesting dude
32:25
um it's something you do with your sound
32:27
that i like too i like the song with too
32:29
short and fab
32:30
the violent joint off the uh bay area
32:32
mixtape
32:33
it's to me it's like that quintessential
32:35
bay area sound but it's modified
32:37
now like it got your whatever that shine
32:40
you put on it
32:42
you'll you'll produce for too short
32:44
you'll produce
32:45
for you know yg you'd produce for
32:48
kamiyah
32:49
but then what i like too is that you'll
32:51
produce for a simone
32:53
or you know some of these artists that i
32:55
listened to when i listened to the
32:56
lost files by on one you know um
33:00
what's the young lady name who did the
33:01
bars joint
33:03
what's her name give it to him give it
33:06
to him lala you know i'm listening to
33:07
all of these tracks
33:09
i don't know if the dude named pooh man
33:11
or pato puma i'm listening to these
33:13
tracks i'm listening to these singers
33:15
and i'm listening to these rappers and
33:16
i'm listening to just this
33:18
man they remind me of fame like if i
33:20
don't know if you ever watched the movie
33:21
fame from back in the day
33:23
you just got a whole lot of creative
33:24
people all going to one school
33:27
you know and it feel like that's kind of
33:29
what you created with these projects man
33:31
it was really
33:32
fun for me 2-1-4
33:35
you know you know he's been doing it for
33:38
a minute so it was really fun for me
33:41
to hear all this new talent why is that
33:43
so important for you and what's your
33:44
plan with all of this
33:45
this new talent that you're working
33:47
around so like i said being signed
33:50
for me is definitely two different
33:52
worlds when i'm in the industry
33:54
and i'm doing sessions for any major
33:56
artists
33:57
rather than you know in my city like
34:01
my city is what i know my city is what
34:03
i'm used to
34:05
those type of sessions is what got me to
34:08
where i'm at now
34:09
so it even comes up a couple times about
34:13
you know how much i charge for these
34:15
so it's like for me i'm the same
34:17
producer i was
34:19
for me before i got signed so
34:22
kamiyah she blew up and i was
34:25
awful love you feel me she had thrown me
34:28
25 50 dollars just let me feed my family
34:30
for me but it was all love
34:31
so i'm always do that because you never
34:34
know
34:35
who who gone blow and then also you
34:37
never know who lives you're gonna touch
34:39
you know what i'm saying because
34:40
i was that young producer in the studio
34:42
where another producer came to me and
34:44
was like let me show you something
34:46
so it's i think i think it's my
34:49
i think it's my duty to be that person
34:52
to the youngsters
34:54
that breathe that life like you said for
34:57
me
34:57
when i was doing these projects it
34:59
wasn't planned or nothing for me i'll go
35:02
to a studio or i'll go to the center and
35:04
i'll just start making music
35:06
and then these artists will come they'll
35:07
just flock around studios be packed out
35:09
because everybody trying to get a burst
35:11
for me on this hot track
35:13
and that is everything to me is when you
35:16
can breathe
35:17
life into a youngster especially
35:19
youngster i'm from
35:20
i mean you don't know what he just came
35:22
from you don't know what what he just
35:24
did
35:24
for him to come in here and because does
35:27
music sound good
35:28
he believed he can read let me be a wrap
35:31
or he
35:32
put his you mean he put his his whole
35:35
being into it he start
35:36
calling you ct i need another b or ct
35:38
you feel me with a video so it's like
35:41
that's that's more so important to me
35:43
than anything is
35:44
always being that pillar in the
35:46
community to where like
35:48
the kids that i was working for me at
35:51
the school for they
35:52
really didn't think i was who i was
35:54
because
35:56
how you here and you're working with us
35:58
but you got
35:59
me kamaya and kapolo and all these
36:01
people in the music like this don't even
36:03
sound real i'm like well that's gonna be
36:05
the producer
36:05
that i am like i'm gonna always be in my
36:08
community working
36:09
you know i'm saying no matter what level
36:11
i'm on it matter
36:12
for me y'all say drake it don't matter
36:15
like i'ma always be that
36:16
that person i love it man i feel like
36:20
between
36:21
what you're doing what the mechanics are
36:23
doing
36:24
what 40 son is doing you know um all the
36:27
different producers we got coming out of
36:29
hbk
36:30
man we don't even talk about like
36:34
you know people like the the the uh
36:36
dominoes and a pluses from the
36:38
hieroglyphics and dale the funky homo
36:40
sapiens the autumn
36:41
dana automator who worked with the
36:43
gorillas and all of these different
36:45
legendary rock bands rafael sadiq we got
36:47
all of these
36:49
man man we got so many chefs in the bay
36:52
area
36:54
i feel like and it would empire what
36:56
godzilla guys have been doing
36:58
i think bay area is on the cusp of
37:01
having another moment
37:02
similar to how we've seen the south
37:04
album moment
37:06
you know different regions have a moment
37:08
la tde
37:09
have a moment do you see that no i
37:12
definitely do
37:14
and i definitely want to be a part of it
37:17
like like you said the bank got all
37:19
these artists for me that's peeking
37:21
right now that's coming out
37:23
you got kelani like you said you got
37:27
sweetie you know i'm saying you got
37:28
my you got somebody for me some some
37:31
dudes out here that's working
37:32
so it's definitely it's definitely some
37:35
light being shown
37:36
to the bay right now and what godzilla
37:38
doing what he doing
37:39
and we never had that that main hub like
37:42
like you feel me and it's really
37:45
starting some stuff to where
37:47
i was just in the studio with sata you
37:49
know i'm saying it
37:51
i got a couple records you know i'm
37:52
saying hopefully they come out but it's
37:54
just like that's big
37:56
for us you know what i'm saying that's
37:57
huge they had a workshop
37:59
up there you were actually in the studio
38:02
yeah
38:06
[Laughter]
38:16
knocking tracks out like off the top of
38:19
the head i'm like okay
38:21
off the top like who who who who's cause
38:23
i i saw this
38:25
thing not to cut you off we'll come back
38:26
to i saw this thing online
38:28
uh a challenge a 16 bar challenge i
38:30
think it was called spit
38:32
was that you that was using your beat
38:34
that was using a beat you made
38:35
was it fizzler it might have been
38:37
fizzler yeah
38:39
okay okay okay so i want to ask you
38:42
about bars man like
38:44
for bay area artists like who who who
38:47
are your i ain't saying you saying that
38:48
the best of all time but in your
38:51
in your book who are like the top
38:54
lyrical bar spitters in the bay to you
38:58
in the bay we talking about like
39:01
people that everybody know or like
39:02
people that both
39:05
so i mean off tops mr fab
39:09
yeah yeah that you know so i i still
39:12
ain't never seen nobody doing like
39:13
that yeah like i've recorded fabian
39:17
he really be freestyling barf bar like
39:21
me and fab got some historical moments
39:24
on freestyling
39:25
like fat man fab man fab would come up
39:28
on this way in the morning show bro we
39:29
would set the world on fire
39:31
every time we would plant it too we
39:33
won't stop you don't stop
39:36
yeah so mr fab for sure
39:39
like my number one pig you know
39:42
me and short that's that's that's the
39:44
dog
39:45
that's the og that i look up to and me
39:48
and him for show
39:49
you know got a couple records i mean for
39:51
sure in the studio he definitely helped
39:53
me out
39:53
um uh to be honest with you i really
39:57
mess with um
39:58
ge's g-eazy yeah people sleep on too
40:02
easy
40:02
why why is that why folks won't give him
40:05
you know
40:06
give him a give him a medal what's that
40:08
about
40:09
i don't know but i i mess with you maybe
40:12
you know maybe
40:13
it's the culture thing i'm not sure but
40:15
i mess with you he's
40:16
tough and i think he he underrated but
40:18
he's such a big artist
40:21
and that people probably to me that he
40:24
from here i think i was at a
40:26
dwayne wiggins spot tony tony tony um
40:29
and i messed with dwayne too shout out
40:31
to wayne but uh gag easy pulled up there
40:34
to do a video shoot
40:36
and he was driving a 67 stain and that's
40:39
that's my favorite car
40:40
mm-hmm i mean so i'm like yeah
40:43
i actually i actually got something
40:44
coming out with you easy too
40:47
on this new project no dilo me and velo
40:50
been
40:50
been working hard and d-lo got a fire
40:53
track
40:54
talk about d-lo man because you guys
40:56
have worked together
40:57
and uh and d-lo's one of big vines
41:00
favorite dudes too
41:01
you know what i mean we me and vine we
41:03
discuss a lot of artists
41:05
and talk to the to people who don't know
41:07
who d-lo is talk about d-lo man
41:10
d-lo you know that's the homie homie
41:13
like
41:14
recently me and d-lo hooked up a couple
41:16
months ago and he like
41:18
you my producer i mean it's like on that
41:20
level but dilo
41:22
got the gas dilo for me he he got one of
41:25
the biggest records from the bay
41:26
um and every every everywhere you go
41:30
they know noho you know i'm saying it
41:32
and every time it come on it changed the
41:34
atmosphere straight up
41:36
you know what i'm saying so d lo he
41:38
didn't he he didn't
41:39
get it in for a while and he got some
41:41
you got some tracks from
41:43
the chauffeurs though okay uh i want to
41:46
ask you about
41:47
um
41:51
these two amazing artists that are
41:53
coming from the bay that people don't
41:55
even know of yet
41:56
you know um harmony and lyric
42:02
tell me about them i think they're gonna
42:04
be the future of the bay
42:05
what's that what's the story behind that
42:07
so
42:08
so um me and a mom met
42:12
at the center it's actually a back story
42:15
of this so i was working with
42:18
uh kamiyah for me and uh then i met
42:22
a female rapper named lala
42:26
you know whenever two females is in the
42:29
same room they're both raptors always
42:31
going to be
42:31
attention there so i'm i'm always going
42:34
to be kamar producer but
42:36
this girl like had gas
42:40
so i'm like i gotta work with her you
42:43
know what i'm saying
42:44
so we started working out the water
42:47
to this day kill anything you know i'm
42:50
saying
42:50
i put all my baskets and hurt for sure
42:53
and she just need that right exposure
42:56
but we
42:56
you know we met it started to build on a
42:59
relationship
43:00
for me and then the kids started coming
43:04
now i'm a music man my legacy is
43:07
to make beats to be known for what i do
43:10
change lives whatever it is so
43:13
you know i got you know two little kids
43:15
running around you know
43:17
for me they they're around all this
43:18
music since they've been in the belly so
43:21
i think one day i was making the track
43:24
and
43:24
the daughter was sitting on she was just
43:26
really started humming started
43:28
doing a little something and i must have
43:29
like just recorded it on my computer
43:32
end up making a hook out of it maybe
43:35
like two weeks later
43:36
wrote a song for and she's ready to go
43:40
you know what i'm saying that's that's
43:42
clear that's harmony
43:44
and then she got a little sister and her
43:46
name is lyric her name is nelly
43:49
and she like well i see my sister doing
43:51
this and she was killing it she
43:53
performing and doing shows and everybody
43:55
like who was this little girl
43:57
so then finally the little sister came
43:58
and was like i'm gonna do it
44:00
so we got a whole project 10 tracks
44:03
harmony and lyric you know i'm saying
44:05
ct1 ct2 that's basically my legacy
44:08
that's how i'm going to continue to be
44:10
here without being here you know what
44:11
i'm saying
44:12
absolutely passing it down to them and
44:15
i'm about to
44:16
i'm not going to drop them how old are
44:18
they
44:19
right now currently is my
44:23
chanel is seven it's a big market out
44:26
there
44:26
you know for these kids like when you
44:28
look at the girl jojo
44:30
the teenager um who got millions of
44:32
followers it's a lot of like
44:33
youtube channels for kids where they
44:36
were they entertaining themselves
44:37
i'm curious to like you we when we talk
44:40
today we talk about all the
44:42
you know all the pitfalls of the music
44:43
business
44:45
and then also the pitfalls of fame man
44:47
like with success fame is a
44:49
man it's an ugly thing man that's a
44:51
dirty drug bro
44:53
you know um it's it's complicated to
44:56
deal with unless you got a
44:57
great foundation even the best of us
44:59
crack when it comes to fame
45:01
you know um how how would you protect
45:03
your daughters from that though
45:05
you know because that the kind of music
45:07
they're making they could become really
45:08
popular really fast
45:10
right that's that's a very mental play
45:12
this whole fame thing
45:13
what's your plan in regards to
45:14
protecting them even now
45:17
for me i don't never force it all right
45:20
i'm not like a joe jackson i'm like get
45:22
in here you can't play
45:23
it's more so like i want you to enjoy it
45:25
because when i make it i enjoy it
45:27
and hopefully you feel me let me make
45:30
you some money one day just keep it
45:31
going
45:32
but like i said i haven't really
45:35
to be tapped into the fame myself you
45:37
know what i'm saying so i'm not
45:39
fully prepared for it but they're my
45:41
daughters yeah
45:42
i'm from oakland i mean no harm no
45:45
danger comes to them for sure i'm a
45:47
present father every day
45:49
so i'm like well when it comes let's
45:51
let's see let's see how we're going to
45:53
deal with it
45:54
i talked to him about it every day like
45:56
do you want to
45:58
be famous you want to be on youtube you
46:00
want everybody to
46:01
they already kind of get treated
46:02
different at their school because
46:04
[Laughter]
46:06
they hot on campus
46:10
little razzle dazzle okay
46:13
you know i just i just i just we try to
46:15
talk to them and try to make sure
46:18
that they enjoy what they don't and you
46:20
know when that stuff happens we're going
46:21
to deal with it
46:22
i mean okay that's really what you want
46:25
for yourself and we can do it but
46:30
well i know you got some projects coming
46:31
up um
46:33
lost files too and then um
46:36
what's it called stick to stick to
46:38
making beats stick to making make it
46:40
yeah and and these are all coming
46:43
through your own platform the real music
46:45
platform right
46:46
yeah yeah what do you what do you see
46:47
for yourself in the next three years
46:50
so like i said being signed since 2016
46:54
being a producer um i was i was
46:57
expecting
46:58
something a little different as far as
47:01
uh you know people really knowing who i
47:03
am really knowing who made these beats
47:06
but i see in in the industry the culture
47:08
is a little different
47:10
the artist gets more of the uh the front
47:13
lining
47:13
or when they get more of the exposure
47:16
and sometimes the producer
47:19
sometimes they're not mentioned too many
47:21
left don't mention people don't really
47:22
know
47:23
who produced it now that you can be
47:25
really making a name for yourself
47:27
so i had to kind of finally restructure
47:29
myself and be like noah
47:30
i don't i don't want to be a background
47:32
producer or producer that's if you mean
47:35
just in the background i want to be a
47:37
producer that's known
47:40
so now i'm taking that approach and
47:41
that's why i'm about to start dropping
47:43
my own records
47:45
i got the the lost files project those
47:49
are songs
47:50
that i'm putting out basically for all
47:52
these my local artists like this is the
47:54
tracks that we did
47:55
i don't know what y'all did with them
47:57
but i'm gonna put them out so when
47:58
people look my name
47:59
up they know what they they've known the
48:02
stuff that i've done
48:03
mm-hmm so uh two lost files project i'ma
48:07
always drop those because i'm always
48:09
working with kids from the community
48:11
so i'm gonna always drop the lost files
48:13
those those are serious that's gonna
48:14
keep going
48:15
and then i decided you feel me like i do
48:18
music
48:18
i mean it ain't just for me making beats
48:22
like i do at all i teach music i teach
48:24
choirs
48:25
for me uh i teach students i write music
48:27
for me
48:28
all of that so i'm like forget it give
48:30
me like let me let me draw my own music
48:32
too
48:32
let me get let me start my own name get
48:35
my own name out there and get my own
48:37
brand out there as well
48:39
so that's where the stick to making
48:41
beats come from is
48:42
people always tell me can you just just
48:44
produce let me just make beats you don't
48:46
need to do nothing else
48:47
but i'm like oh man [ __ ] that like what
48:49
you mean like i can make music
48:51
so that's where it sticks to making
48:52
these concepts come from it's like
48:55
i mean you respect this you know i'm
48:56
saying don't get it twisted like
48:58
i can still make my own music and still
49:01
get this [ __ ] popping at the same time
49:03
while i'm making these while i'm
49:04
producing for these big artists
49:06
to me because it ain't gonna hurt like
49:08
i'm all the way invested into this
49:10
you know what i'm saying so let me do
49:11
this
49:13
i like it man i remember when they uh
49:15
lebron had to
49:16
when they told lebron when he was
49:18
speaking out against social injustice
49:20
and some
49:20
commentators said jim man we just want
49:22
you to shut up and dribble
49:25
you know hold up let me show you what
49:28
this do right here
49:29
yeah check this out and like i said i'm
49:32
i'm a music person so my life is
49:36
investing into the music
49:37
and i know what music does and how music
49:40
can touch people and how music
49:41
can influence people so i'm like well
49:44
and see when people
49:45
give me tap in the ctb
49:48
what are they going to get like what's
49:50
the whole picture or the whole
49:52
formula that they're going to get from
49:53
ct all your ct might be
49:55
keeping you wrapping maybe writing for
49:57
me working the difference
50:00
yeah you want all of it you want the
50:03
recognition the acknowledgement the
50:04
respect
50:06
the credibility all of it i get it why
50:08
not
50:09
right so that's why i'm putting my own
50:12
music out
50:13
like i said my wife is a rapper you know
50:15
what i'm saying
50:16
her spirit you'll go bananas and then i
50:18
got my daughters so
50:19
it's like please go ahead your wife is
50:22
lala
50:23
yeah yeah i thought that's what you said
50:26
okay okay tell her she got bars she got
50:29
bars
50:29
yeah she got the gas she got so bars
50:32
okay
50:32
she got to come up to the show one day
50:34
though we put it to the you know
50:36
put it to that real test she's ready you
50:38
name
50:40
that's what's up oh well man i'm happy
50:43
for you brother like
50:45
you got a lot on your plate yeah you
50:47
know i'm
50:48
to me it to be honest with you it's not
50:51
enough for me
50:52
i'm used to working at a bigger capacity
50:54
like
50:55
you see me like my thing is working
50:59
in person with the artist that's why
51:00
that's why i signed the most that like
51:02
it's cool to send tracks and it's cool
51:05
to send beats and packs but when i'm in
51:07
the studio with the artist
51:08
we locked in i just got in with a meth
51:11
i just got in with a sob boy
51:16
and they all say the same thing like you
51:18
got the jews like when i sit down with
51:20
you and you actually tell me what you
51:21
want
51:22
i'm gonna make a slapper for you that's
51:24
just what it is
51:26
what what what song right now i mean
51:29
it's like trying to pick a kid but you
51:31
love all your kids but what song right
51:33
now
51:34
change your life the most
51:39
man it's it's between the melee track
51:42
and the why you always hate the track
51:44
i think kamaya's music has had more of a
51:48
impact on me personally because you feel
51:50
me for the situation
51:52
but as far as like my career and what
51:54
i've done
51:56
i think this beyonce track is going for
51:58
me
51:59
that's gonna be really it's gonna do it
52:01
for me
52:02
well congratulations man to you and
52:05
kamaya and what you guys have been able
52:07
to create together and what you're doing
52:08
on
52:08
on on your own with your platform um
52:11
being from oakland man i'm proud of you
52:13
you know and here's the thing bro you
52:16
just begun
52:17
you know you know you just begun and so
52:20
i mean you been doing it for a while but
52:22
you just begun
52:24
you know what i mean you know cuz that
52:25
coming from you that's big for me
52:27
because
52:28
you know you know for me what you've
52:29
done for me places you've been so it's
52:31
like
52:32
for me to actually be on here with you
52:34
you'd be actually talking to me about my
52:36
music
52:36
that's still a huge accomplishment for
52:38
me that's right
52:40
here with the warriors hating track
52:42
beyonce now
52:43
for me sway show like to me and that's
52:46
the homie right thing and you can walk
52:48
from so
52:49
that's that's that's real great come on
52:51
man i used to run up and down 35th
52:53
ave too i got some stories
52:56
i had to run out of there once
53:01
okay come on man i can't even think in
53:03
there that apartment complexes right off
53:05
that
53:06
the 35th ave accident you make a right
53:09
if you come in
53:09
if you're going uh east if you're going
53:11
from downtown to hayward
53:13
yeah get up to the 580. they're little
53:15
pj's right there
53:16
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i used to
53:18
run up in there years ago
53:20
uh i used to go to uh the little uh
53:23
allendale i think that's the name of the
53:24
school right around the corner from
53:25
here oh you used to go to allendale i
53:27
went to bret hart oh okay yeah
53:29
that's right that's right over there too
53:31
yeah man
53:32
yeah man uh hey man i'm proud of you
53:35
this is part one we're gonna do another
53:36
one down the line
53:38
okay so i definitely you know if it's
53:40
still good i definitely want to uh come
53:41
to new york
53:42
absolutely when we open up man come
53:44
bring them beats too man we'll do a free
53:46
stop we'll do
53:47
a cipher and you can uh curate the beats
53:50
i'm down for it okay we gonna open up
53:54
later on in the year
53:55
so once it's safe you know we're gonna
53:57
make that happen
53:59
okay yo this is a great conversation man
54:01
you got a lot going on
54:03
congratulations um and uh we're gonna
54:06
keep talking you up
54:07
all right man i appreciate the
54:09
opportunity i appreciate giving the
54:11
slave show
54:12
give me a shout out slight show you know
54:13
what i'm saying beats in the building
54:14
huh there it is come on
54:16
count business yay
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54:33
you
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