Miguel’s Emotional Journey: “CAOS” and Fatherhood 🎶 | SWAY’S UNIVERSE

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[Applause] career era defining artist.
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Let them know. Prepare them. All I want is you. You took them back to
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2010. He have the beat. That's crazy. That was 2010. Took them back to 2010.
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And it still sound good. That's when you know you got one. I almost got to a point in my career. If
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you ain't put 10 years in, I don't even want to sit down with you. You'd still kind of like that. You could really call that. You could really be
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like, "You know what? N you're not qualified to speak to me. Give me 10.
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You're not qualified to ride. Give me 10.
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You haven't crossed the threshold yet. That's it. Come on, man. Through multiple albums, millions of sales,
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concert tickets, uh brilliant records written, um um amazing music sang, uh
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creative projects played. Um, I I've known this young man for a long time
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before you all knew him. You know, he used to come up to the world famous wakeup show with King Tech and me.
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That's crazy. Shout out to Basics. Shout out to Basic who used to work with us and um Basic used to tell us about
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him and I love telling his story cuz I like keeping the the roots tied together. And to watch this man on big
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stages, whether it's Grammys or seeing him at Billboard or MTV and all of these different things, I know the work he put
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in to get to this point. And the man has, we've been able to watch him grow in the last 15 years. And he barely
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looks like he's 15 years of age. Crazy [ __ ] I don't know what he what he drinking.
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What is he drinking? Not 15. 15. I knew him before he was a father. We're
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always crazy. And now we got that in common, man. It's a trip and I can't wait to celebrate with you,
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brother. It's a trip, right? Give it up for Miguel. Miguel is here.
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What up, man? Back. You back, bro.
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Like, I never No, I never left. I never left. I just I just was taking a moment, taking a second to just get myself
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together. But I'm back in terms of like being out and in front of the camera and all that
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good stuff. So it feels good and it feels it feels even better when you come back and it's like homecoming with your
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home like homies and the big homies and just the loved ones, you know, it's the kind of it's the kind of reception you
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hope for. So you went you you had to go do some life. Oh yeah. Yeah. And uh and one of the things um we
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you did is you you became a father. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm going to talk about that. Okay. We should we should talk about Um
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because I'm a dad and man, Miguel, I remember the when my daughter was born.
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Were you there when your son was born? I caught him. I caught my son. Oh my god. And you know when they when they ask if
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you want to Well, they ask if you want to cut the umbilical cord. They asked me if they if I wanted to um carry him to
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the weighing station. Man, I just been telling this story is is is one of the
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most impactful moments of my life singing because when he was in the womb,
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I was singing Curtis Mayfield, The Makings of You. Wow. And the moment he they put me in put him
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in my hands and I'm carrying him to the weighing station and he's kind of crying and I start singing The Makings of You
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by Curtis Mayfield. Wow. His eyes opened right up and it was it
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was such a powerful he recognized me and we it just he completely stopped crying
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and he just relaxed. He just relaxed in my hands and I just took him and I placed him on the on the table and
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we've been like this locked in, you know, and just watching him has given me
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so much so much more so has actually given me new faith and new hope.
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Yeah. That I just couldn't have had without him. So yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, man. Did you being becoming a father like mine
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wasn't I It's not like I picked a date on a calendar and said in this year Yeah. I want a child to be born. Right. That
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that didn't happen for you either, right? Yeah. But but but then you realize cuz it's a scary proposition,
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right, initially, but then you realize how much of a huge blessing that it is, right? And then it changes
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everything. They say it, you know. Yeah. And and then when you feel it is it's a it's
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even the understanding of it is life-changing and all those things is you can't really put a put words to the
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way that it completely restructures your beliefs and your pri I mean obviously
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your priorities change but the way that I believe and and hope in the world is
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a way that I couldn't have expected or imagined. Mhm. Um, and the way that I get behind what I
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say and what I do is different now. Yeah. Because it's on his behalf. It's on his behalf.
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How I talk to myself, how I hold myself accountable, all of those things change and the depth and the reason and the
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purpose change. Yeah. Um, in a way I couldn't have imagined. Something happened for me and I ask you
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maybe in similar ways. Um, it my child affected my work. Mhm.
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Right. my work ethic. Mhm. She doesn't even know it, you know. She, you know, but it when she was born,
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I didn't half nothing. You know, um people thought I was a workaholic.
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I was driven um by being a provider
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uh for this human being. And some of this work I was doing, I
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doubted if I should even be doing it anymore, right? Mhm. Especially when you work in radio
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at this time. She was born in '98, 99, 2000 that that area of of radio. And
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it's just I didn't want to perpetuate any negativity, gossip. I didn't want to be a part of
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nothing that the music industry, even the corruption, you know, was surrounding me with. And I
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almost tapped out. And then I had Red Alert come to me, DJ Red Alert, and told me, "You can't
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leave." You can't leave. Yeah. That's That's a red Toby. You can't leave now.
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Yo, he said you you can't leave now. And he said that's more the reason why you need to stay.
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It's for your child. That next year I got hired at MTV, moved to New York
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and the whole nine. I'm I'm curious with this album Chaos cuz your son your child was born during
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the during the making. During the making how did that affect you creatively? Did you did you have to really look at your
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career and your world and go, man, what is this? Am I man? In the in the same way I I was
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tapping out. I think at the I was fighting an uphill battle to find a
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reason and I create because I it I love it and
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I found the creative part that I fell in love with from the beginning in the eightear span. But it wasn't
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until the last, you know, that nine month gap of finding out that I was going to be a father,
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uh, and having him that the album and the drive to actually
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be an artist in the public. I I refound that. Yeah. And and the reason is because
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that accountability made me do the digging on myself and
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really addressing things that I needed to go, oh, now I discover what my next
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10 years is going to be about. It was he was the he was the push. Yeah. You know that I needed to kind of get
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some things together within myself. And in that time, I found, oh, this is about
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to be my mission. I'm gonna spend my next 10 years building a platform for black and brown Latino artists left the
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center like myself who need stories told that that are telling stories that need to be heard
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that didn't get the development like I did that came from s you know I came from San Pedro as you know San Pedro and
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Englewood that come from underserved communities from obscurity who have new
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interesting point of views that give us more humanity that that that cap
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encapsulate the kind of stories and the kind of creativity that bring people together. Okay, that's what's gonna be
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my next 10. I'm gonna spend it doing A, B, and C. And so, it was him getting
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getting finding finding out and really coming to terms with the responsibility
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I needed to to really have with myself that got me to the realization of how I
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was going to approach this next 10 years. And part of that is, you know, building that platform was like, "Okay,
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well then I got to step out and be the artist. I got to do that, too." So, yeah. A big part.
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A big part. Big part of that. Wow. Man, that's deep, Heather. Beautiful. Um, and then, so when you listen to that
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album and now that you told me this mission to bring out these stories of black and brown folks that don't always have the
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ability to do so for whatever reasons, it it explains why we hear you sing so
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much in Spanish, right? that has a lot to do with it. Yeah, absolutely. I I think also just
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just the um tremendous amount of um pride
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and the redefining of my experiences growing up, how I used to I used to look
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back and go, man, it was hard being black and Mexican in LA in the '9s.
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And I think I I used to have such a it was a a hurdle. It was something I
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had to overcome in my memories. And now I think I look at it and I go, "No,
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those are the defining moments. Those are the ones that empowered me, that gave me the resilience, that gave
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me this unique positioning really." Um to be able to speak to both
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cultures and to to speak to both crowds and to kind of hopefully create a new bridge.
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That's the intention is to create a new bridge. Not even not just creatively. definitely creatively, but also
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outwardly um to talk to to a new audience. And I think my parents were
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kind of cutting edge with it. You know what I mean? They were they were ahead of the curve when it when it comes to me, man. They were they were way ahead. And um it
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would be crazy to not really lean into that and and celebrate that in my work.
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Yeah. So, yeah, that's what that's what that's about. What What would a lunchon like look like? Would it be like
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lay out the menu? Would it be like collard greens in a burrito or like listening collard greens? We're getting
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the fried chicken. We're getting the oxtails and the enchilada
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and the chileeno and the you know what I'm saying the the the asada. We're
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getting all of that. We're getting all of that. Yeah, we're getting all that. I like that. I like that. We got DJ Seville. He the LA Dodgers DJ
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coming up. That's what I was looking at. Oh, you think you think Miguel can do the anthem for the World Series? You know, it's interesting. I was going
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to bring up the point. So, every year we have Dia the Day of the Dead. Das Merto.
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And I always play Remember Me when once we once we show either we show our tribute,
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I always play Remember Me. So, every year I'm I'm playing that dope and and somebody always looks over and says
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that's a perfect song. So, I keep that here along with the rest of the bangers. Yeah. Yeah. That's love. That's love. I think we've um we've actually kind of pitched
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that for the uh for this year. We pitched like coming out there for that. I mean, you know, Dodgers, I'm LA
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native. That's our team. Go Dodgers. Go Blue. You know what I'm saying? We we uh we did it that last game. Side
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note, that last game uh one of the best games ever played. That was crazy, right?
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Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. He was there. Yeah, I was there. Oh my god. I mean, history. Yeah, history. It was incredible. I I we
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had to I had to take a minute to say like how big the moment was cuz at first we was working you had to stop yourself
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and say this is a big big moment you ask it was you know what I mean but yeah it was incredible I mean that the pitching and then the
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hitting it is crazy. I'm like oh my god. So yeah we going we going we out of here we out of here. Uh Chaos is the album
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October 23rd. Miguel is hanging out. We played that Martyrs track. Um the video was dope. You directed the
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video? I directed that with MZ Margaret Zang um my partner. So, she's uh she and I kind
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of came up with this this this story line. Actually, it all started because I
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was thinking about where the song where I hear where I see myself and people my audience listening to the song and I was
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like, "This is a headphone in the car banger." So, you know, late night sessions when
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I'm just coming with coming with ideas, I'm, you know, hit the blunt real quick and I'm just kind of
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think about it, close my eyes, and I was like, "No, this video got to be in the car." And so I was like, okay,
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what if I'm driving in all these situations and uh and I'm taking people to their
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destination to because the song is about like taking matters into your own hands.
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Um and so I was like, what if it's not me? What if it's that we're showing people in different circumstances taking
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they're they're voicing and they're taking action on what they believe in. And so then it was like what if it's to
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a rally? What if it's to what if it's press who's trying to cover the story that's being buried,
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i.e. what we're seeing, you know, take place in real time, you know, uh abroad in Gaza and so on and so forth. And so
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many places a lot of stories not being told where there's people put putting their lives on the line to tell the stories and get the word out. Um or if it's
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people who are, you know, rob, you know, taking taking matters in their own hands in a wrong way. all of these ways that
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reflect the times because I think we're seeing stories like you know like the Luigi Manion story and we look at the
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Charlie Kirk story and you go wow vigilanteism is becoming more and more
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common and less and less uh it's it's we're desensitized to it,
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you know, it's less and less abrasive now. It's less and less notable. It's becoming we're we're
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becoming it's normalized. Yeah. Normalized with it. So the video really keys in on sort of that place
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that we're at in time and and just, you know, putting it out front. And so I'm I'm really proud of the video that we
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directed and acted in it. That's a double threat right there. And sang it. Hold up. He sang it. Okay. Okay. All
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right. Okay. It's a double threat. I produce a song, too. So quadruple
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quadruple five. How to say five. So stop there. Sinko threat. Let's go. So two
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single threat single threat to think so two things um I'm still stuck Miguel thank you for
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being here but I'm still stuck on a beautiful story that you shared about the birth of your son and Sway and I
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ironically were talking about when women are carrying children how important the environment needs to be
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around them and the words that are spoken around and you chose to sing this beautiful song
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the making of you which I discovered on the Claudine soundtrack I don't even know like how far back this song goes.
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The Curtis Mayfield song I believe you're referring to from the 70s of you. How how did you discover that song and
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why that song particularly for your son that uh that song's on the soundtrack
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and it's a soundtrack and album um Curtis for Curtis Curtis. Curtis did the soundtrack for um Superfly.
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Um but it's also an album. I believe it's the the whole album is on there but it's that album.
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You ain't got to look it up. We'll look it up. I got to look it up. Okay. Go ahead. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm It's It's a little early in Dad Brain. But um but he
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this album is just one of those ones where you know you you have a few incredible songs on there. Uh Miss Black
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America's on there. Incredible. Incredible song. Miss Black America. Uh
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we thank you Miss I mean um that song um
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um [Music] Pusher Man is on. No pusher. Push her.
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That's I mean iconic songs. Um I'm that [ __ ] in that alley.
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I'm your mama. I'm your dad. Yeah. Yeah. I'm that [ __ ] in the pusher. Yeah.
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Oakland banger. Pusher man. So on that album is the makings of you
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man. That song is I heard that song and it just it put absolutely one of the songs I can
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still listen to from the first time I heard it to now anytime I play it I I get my eyes get
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watery you know I I kind of well up cuz it I and I didn't know the I didn't
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know how significant it would be but when I found out I was going to be a father was the song that I thought of
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first and uh I was like that's the song I'm going to sing to him
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in his in his development all the way through. And so I said I would sing it every day and I did, you know, every day
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I sing that song um along with a couple other songs and um and just see, you know, when he
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was born if he would recognize it, recognize your voice. The other thing um you mentioned about
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taking a minute, just taking a minute to step back. Do you think artists are afraid to do that? Especially, you were
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talking about this business and this industry and how it just feels like if people don't see you sort of, they feel
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like you're not doing anything, but in reality, you you trying to get your [ __ ] together. You're getting your
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life together, your your your family, all of these things. But I think folks are afraid to take a moment to to
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to stop for a second and look back. Um, what are your thoughts on that as well? Were you afraid initially to take that
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moment that you needed? I think it was it wasn't a um a conscious decision at
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the time. It was a I'm just taking the time I need and when it's time I it'll
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be time. And over time I kind of was like do I need to come back? Do I want
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to come back? Wow. The big question was do I really want to come back for this? You know I see your whole team cringe every time
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you say that. You know, I mean, I think Drew was like, and you you I mean, you know, Drew's
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been with me since since day one. Beautiful people that you got around you. Yeah. Yeah. Uh it it became
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it it got real comfortable, you know, it got cozy and it's like, why do I do I was working on music?
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Yeah. But there's so much more that has to happen if you're going to put the music out and you're going to promote it
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and you're going to do, you know, do do the talk about it and then, you know, ask the questions and be taken
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out of context and then do all of the things, you know, that it requires to to the business of music or
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the business of entertainment. um which is a part of of the art you know and making making a living in this in with
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this you know with the art form. So, I didn't I didn't really have the drive to
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be real honest. And um and it wasn't until again, like I said, you know, coming coming to a point
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where I had to start facing myself and and get to the digging of, okay, well, I got to really figure out how I'm going
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to be the best me for him. that I got to uncover some of the some of the
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necessary um avoidances, the things that I was avoiding that gave me that that I
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think are behind a lot of my hesitation in the past and the things that didn't come to fruition in the past that I
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needed to take back the um my value which is really interesting. I think
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over time I started to relate my value with the put the value of myself in the
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hands of my su of my success. So if songs or albums were successful or
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became really successful then I started to correlate my personal value with the success and I needed to take the time to to re
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to take that back really to take it back the making of you. I like the making of me. That's right. That's the next album. That's going to
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be the next EP. Thank you. making a me sharing that very very heartfelt and as you know someone
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who spent time as an artist full time I totally relate to that you know it's a slippery slope to to find success
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um and it's not that I I found I found the dose that I needed to get me right
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and I can see that with clarity now um and so I have a tremendous amount of
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gratitude a trip when you when you can look at things and go oh I See, I see
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how my my what I carry, how it enabled me and how
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it empowered me. And I also see how it kind of helped me, you know, and maybe in a way it was what
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I needed in the time, but let me look at all this that I'm carrying. Do I still need No, I don't need that.
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I definitely need this. I'm going to keep that. Let me get rid of that. Then you put you put that [ __ ] back on. You go, All right. You tighten
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the straps up. Yeah. Like, okay. All right. Okay. Let's go. And that's how that's where I feel, you know? I've
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got new mountains to climb. I've got new Yeah. Yeah. Come on. It's a motivation. Keep going,
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man. I got new mountains to climb. Keep flowing.
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I got new hurdles to jump. Keep flowing, bro. That's right. You know, that's right. New walls to break through, Miguel. Keep
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blowing. New new oceans to travel. new, you know, new new depths to dive to.
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That's right. That's right. All of it. All of those things. New planets to reach, new Wait, hold on one second. Get Get that
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guy's attention. Yeah, this guy right here. Scott, come on. Come say hi to Miguel, the award-winning artist. This is Green.
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What's up, Scott? Grammy award winner Scott Greenstein right here, man. He runs this whole ship and he never gets
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on camera. Scott, he ran out of there.
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Get me out of here now. Thanks, Scott. Scott, I understand. That's why I stayed
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away so long. Yeah. He's ran out of here. Tracy, you're all the way in New York. I know. I know he's one of your favorites.
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Oh my gosh. Going way way way back. My appreciation for Miguel is boundless. I
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remember the very very first time we ever spoke. I want to say this was back in like
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2009 when I was working for Honey Magazine. Yeah. and shirt thing was
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killing it on MySpace and I got in conversation with my Scorpio brother and
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depth was the word. I was like, "Oh my gosh, this guy, whether you're expressing yourself
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through conversation, through the music, of course, through visuals, you just take us through all of these different
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dimensions." And so, it's a really beautiful things to grow with you. Truly, truly, especially now that you
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have um the layer of father added to you and that's another space for you to tap
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in. But what I'm wondering as as a virtuoso, right, in music, you're constantly collecting all of
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these sounds, all of these references, and you know, kind of pinning them on your inspiration board, so to say. But
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I'm wondering like what role does silence have in your process? You're
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always listening. you're always listening even to your own voices. But um whether it is, you know, creating
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distance from distractions or literally like pausing on music to just hear the
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sounds of nature or meditation. What is silence in Miguel's process?
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Oh, I love um I always love I mean, first and foremost, it's been a long time long time. So, thank you. And it's
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our season. Yes, it is. Your birthday's tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow.
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Let's go. Let's go. It's tomorrow. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Celebrating.
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Yes. Way. He's tomorrow. I'm the 13th. Tracy's the 17th. Let's go with the the debit card.
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What the hell? Let's go. The gift. Run it up. You got to swipe it up. Run
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it. That's what happens. You know, that's what happens. All right. I got you, Miguel. Wow.
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uh begin and end with Miguel. Right. Listen, the silence that silence is um is where you find I think the artistry,
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you know, I feel you find an artist in the silence. Um I think Miles said that, you know, you
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can hear a real you can hear an artist in where they choose to remove themselves, you know, and the choices in
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the music. And I think the it's the same can be true and said about, you know, taking a pause. Um, I certainly
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found a lot of who I am in in removing and um, man, another one, a cut is worth
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a thousand boosts. That's Dave Siddic, who's a brother and he's on this album as well.
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But it's the same in life, you know, it's like removing things. Um, it can be
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way more effective, I think, than adding the addition and adding and adding and more and more and more. I think removing
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things, distractions, you know, um can can really help give the clarity and it
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certainly helped for me and um that's where I think um you can find
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the purpose of things and how valuable and the weight of things um and use them
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and and and find how how important they are to you and then decipher what is not
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important and what is what is. So, um I don't I don't know if that answered your question.
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It does. Going going away really gave me clarity for sure. And I and and I think you
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asked this too, Heather. It's like I didn't plan on going away and I think it's really hard to go away now. It's
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even harder now. Why you say that? Before it would be you would you can find interviews. I remember finding a
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Charardai interview where they were asking her like you know how do you feel being away for
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so long? and she she says the same thing. This is back when things were much slower and it was expected for
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artists to be away for a year and a half, two years before they came with the album. The process of making an album and releasing
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an album required so much more time and effort because the technology wasn't there. Just the sheer making of music required
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a lot more effort and it it was a it was a more time um intensive process.
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But um but now the demand feels like you're supposed to just
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That's why I asked stay on and be on and keep going and show up and be in the camera. And why haven't you posted?
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Yeah. Where's the pose? Yo, I collaborated with you, Miguel. Why
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you didn't accept it? And yet I understand. I understand. We
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all understand. Yeah. But um but for me, I I I hope I can take
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my moments as needed. But I've kind of
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got in the head space that for the next 10 years, in 10 years, I'll be 50 years old.
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Now, I have the energy. This is the this is a push. So, I intend on being as
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productive and impactful as possible. um with a with this kind of with a
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different kind of intention and um I don't I I can't go away for 8
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years. I don't think I could I will never find the momentum again. Honestly, I know I won't. So,
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right now is me pushing for the ultimate momentum. I haven't I haven't even hit stride. This is like okay, let's go. And it's
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going to be on on on on. So you know um the the things I think that are sustainable now or are that I have
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decided that I will take my moments as needed with no um hesitation you know it's like
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okay nope I need a beat give me a second let me come and really maximize on that and like really make it quality and then
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come back and and keep doing it so I don't want to leave more than you know a few honestly like handful of months
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between my projects now really like yeah so we got another project. Listen. Okay,
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let's get let's work this one first, bro. Okay, let's work chaos first. But we got we got some more projects.
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Even if it's not me up front. Yeah. It's just that I want to continue. I want my output to be and if I'm behind
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something, it's projects. Again, that's the other part is like being able to pour what I have into other projects and into
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other artists, into other stories means that I get to be present without necessarily being upfront. Right. So,
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it's also a it's a considered approach whereby we get to get the mission off and the intention infused in all of it,
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but also not have to be, you know, be up front. Miguel is here. I can relate to that u
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in a couple ways. I'm going to play a song. Yeah. Um two things when I think about you being
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present in in different forms, not necessarily being upfront. I look at um Anderson and um Bruno, right, coming
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together that collaborative project. Um are there artists like that that you
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collaborate with or you have something in working? Yeah. Um I mean there's definitely been a few that are like we've been talking
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about it, just haven't done it yet. Throw some names. Who would we tell you if it's a good idea or not?
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Uh good ideas. Good ideas. Listen, I think all of them are good ideas. I feel
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like left or center be just something really unex unexpected. Excuse me.
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Be crazy. But of the expected ones, I keep hearing Cole. Everyone's like you and Cole.
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Oh my god. You and you all all of the all of my guys that I feel we've we have a natural
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um like there's a complimentary thing about our styles that that when together work well, you
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know, it's like good pairings. I think all those ones. I think I'd love to do a project with just female MC's. I feel
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like just to produce all female MC's and just sing and like do the hooks and all of that. I think it would be crazy.
30:27
That would be crazy. Doi
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would be crazy. Jane Jane Jane Hancock Jane Hancock from the Bay.
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Yo, crazy. And there's a lot of new new but like MC spitters too. Crazy
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would be crazy. Would be hard. But then also like bring the sweeties. Bring them
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all. Yes. Yeah. Detroit Diamond. Bring them all. Detroit Diamond. Oh my god. It be crazy.
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It would go crazy. It would be hard. And then get a mumu fresh on there.
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You might have to You might have to anr that. I would love to, bro. Like I love to participate. If you do that,
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dead ass serious. That's our love in. And we deal I deal we we're on top of MC's.
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Yeah. We just And we we champion them and usher them in and one to have the time to shine. And I I when you said it,
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Miguel is so crazy cuz some reason I thought a baby face initially and what he did for the uh the soundtrack for,
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you know, the movie Waiting to Exhale. Waiting to Exhale. But from a female MC perspective, I've never seen it done.
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And I know you would you would care. Mhm. for the for the project in the way that that we needed to the caring for. So,
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man, you got my vote for it. Please. Yeah. Just just do that. It would be beautiful and supported,
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man. That's we might have to uh we're going to have to call Sway.
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Actually, that's a that's And then people going to look at that like, oh my gosh.
31:59
Yeah. Miguel and Sway got together and did this thing, man. Just don't give up the track, Sway, and
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try to spit bars. I would have to no bars severe. I would have to say something.
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You could say something but no bars, bro. Damn. You ain't
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damn [Music] he carried T spokes. We got to get T spokes on
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there. Look, let's play the title track. Chaos. Miguel is here. I want to open the phone lines. Y'all
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know who he is. Smart questions only. If you don't have them, don't call. But I know you do. 8887423345.
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Let's go. Turn that up. Hey, I'm over here working this way. Who you talking to? Drew?
32:41
Yep. I'm trying to invite Miguel to our uh SiriusXM Swain in the morning karaoke
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night. When is that? Tuesday night. This Tuesday coming up here from 5 to 7.
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Well, you could come from from 5 to 5:15 if you want to. You could you could just Where's it at? Where?
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Right here in this building. We have a beautiful stage and sound stage everything downstairs. Man, I'm here. This is like This is like
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seven This is like 10 minutes from the crib. 10 minutes. Oh, are you serious? You would come by.
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I pull up. We're here. We're in town. He He said that. He was like, "Yo,
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I'm doing my favorite verses from Biggie. I'm doing
33:20
I'm doing like I'm doing crack commandments. I'm doing 10 crack commandments. I might do some Far Side.
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passing me by. I know it. I love that.
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Oh, that would be incredible. But more importantly, I think I was just saying like for people to see you like you have
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such a beautiful energy and a beautiful spirit and it's a need right now, bro.
33:46
More than anything like we need these hugs right now. For sure. We need them. That's right. Also, just the just the
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the crazy thing is finding the balance on the album of that and also just the
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aggressive this temp. I feel like I'm my most aggressive now, but also to have that in
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my spirit and to capture it on the album was also took some time. It took some crafting, you know, it took a little bit
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of like, okay, how do we find the balance? Because I also want to want to feel the warmth,
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you know, I still want to feel that in the music, but um but I would say there we're not
34:20
in a give me a hug time. It's not time for like it's all good and everything's warm and it's time to get to it. It's
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time for that. It's that action, you know? It's that action. So So yeah, we were just talking about that. We were just talking about that and I'm
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going to read a quote from you. That's not I'm not um that's why I'm looking down. Um cuz as I hear you speak, you've been
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very your the continuity in in your messaging has been very cohesive
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and and also consistent. And um after you dropped your single Chaos, which we
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just played, and when you listen to that song, you feel like you're watching a movie, right? Like I look I listen to that song
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and I you know and I I'm seeing all kinds of imaging in my head and you you
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made a comment. You said to rebuild I had to destroy myself. Yeah. That is the core confrontation of chaos.
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Through my personal evolution I learned that that transformation is violent. Chaos is the sonic iteration of me
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bending that violence into something universally felt. Mhm. My gosh.
35:25
That's love. Yeah. bars. Can you Can you break that down for me? Can I just break That was bars right there.
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Yes, sir. That is our tell me that's not like Look, that's why birthdays be introspective. Yeah, exactly.
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See commented on the read. He said the read was great. Yeah, the read was incredible. It was like a monologue. See said that.
35:43
That's right. Um but but but how did you come to that conclusion? It's it's um
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violent. You used the word violent. It is. But it's a it is that process that that is refining. Water doesn't
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find its its way without going through the sediment, without going through the rocks, going
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through all of the It's not an easy process by which we refine ourselves and
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refine and hone what we want in our lives and how we want to feel. It's not by any relaxed approach that we go,
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"Okay, cool." Like, we just got here. You didn't. None of us got to this room. Yeah.
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By just cozy, relaxing. It was with a tremendous amount of effort, a
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tremendous amount of sacrifice, a tremendous amount of learning and failing and getting back up, fighting
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through and dealing with the the pressure and dealing with the expectation and deal. We all got so much
36:43
pressure that that that is a part of who we are and how we we behave and how we
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choose and how we lead and and that make us resilient
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in order to do it again. Yeah. And again and again and again and again. And it is
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a violent process by which we refine and we and we actually build better. So um
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this this time I think that we're looking at and um what we're experiencing though it
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feels like it's there's so much uncertainty and maybe man we don't know
37:20
if it's the end or what's coming. I think what it really is is opportunity.
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It is a it is a reckoning what with what is not working
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and it's it's a well you can choose to figure it out you know it's it is the it
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is the putting it in front of us to the point where we cannot avoid it. Yeah. And it's also a reflection of I
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think you know as within so without you know so it's a it's a it's in a it's an
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opportunity I think and that's why this album to me I I can again I can get behind this album with
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and get in front of the camera and talk the thing because I' i'm like man it's important I've learned that you know all
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of these moments are inflection points these are times where we can look at
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what's not working and do it better build it better break Break that Break that [ __ ] down.
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Break that down violently. Yeah. Break it up. Yeah. Miguel is here. 8887423345.
38:20
Chaos the uh artwork cover. You have a double mask raised above your
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head and your face. Right. Um and it uh reveals you with this devilish grin.
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Mhm. Yeah. You know, so so people don't think that you you worshiping something. Right. Right. Right. Right.
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Can you explain that? What happened? Oh my gosh, it's it's um it's so with so
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much intention. Um so in in across Latin diaspora, there's a celebration that
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that has that has been important um that's called deos diablos, which is a
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commemoration. It's in in Mexico. It's a commemoration of the freeing of African slaves in Mexico. Mhm.
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Um, which in and of itself was something that I I just connected with deeply
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being Afroxican, not by not born in Mexico, um, but by way of my heritage.
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I'm black and Mexican. And so I I it was a it was a discovery that I just related
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so deeply to because here I am creating this album about me trying to free
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myself from my shadows and all of the things that have held me back and the things that I want to grow from also
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also in my practice through meditation and whatnot finding some some belief in
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Buddhist or relating to Buddhist belief and there's a there's a story in
39:52
Buddhism that's that's centered around inviting inviting Mara to tea which
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essentially is like inviting your your uh it's inviting your demons to tea
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and I know in in Christianity that's that sounds crazy but it's an analogy it's words that's
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that's invite your shadows the things that you've been avoiding the um the the
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things burdening you from really really becoming
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your greatest self, you know, and and leaning in on your purpose and
40:26
all of all of the greatness that you are. Those things that are on our backs that we carry that aren't really helping
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us, the the um intrusive thoughts, so to speak, those things I just found so much
40:39
um I related to that so much. And so when I discovered Laasa Diablo and that it was a it was it's a commemoration of
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Africans freeing themselves from slavery man I was like this is the best this is this is a way to connect like who I am
40:52
and how I feel I am in this moment and the importance of this work that's on this album it's it it is a
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it's relating that to me freeing from from the things that's been holding me back. So um so yeah it was an it was an
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opportunity to um I think educate people of a cultural celebration that um that represents something that I
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think we all can relate to and that is growing growing from growing out of the things that have been holding us back whatever
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they are. Um, and so I I I took it as an important work to do and to educate that
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um, also that African blood and culture runs so deep in all of these cultures
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in the world, you know. So all of them is dope. Yeah. All of them. All of them. Emphasize all of them. Um,
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that was a beautiful Thank you for explaining that, man. Diablo. It's not demonic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I knew that. I
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knew that. Heather wanted me to ask you that. Absolutely. No, it's good. It's good. This the guy
41:59
saying, man, that's why we did it. Okay, that's why I did it, man. Um, Meech is on the line from Still Ling. Go ahead.
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I need That's my dog. He's loving it. He like, "Yo, are we in your living room right now?"
42:13
That's That's how it's supposed to feel. That's how it's supposed to was like, "Yeah, yeah, man. That's the old
42:20
Heather. You don't understand when he used to come around they were like kids and they used to come up to the wakeup
42:26
show like big eyed and you know Drew you remember these day big eyed like who are these oh my gosh I'm in
42:33
and so for him I'm I'm sure he's like my little bro this is like big bro little bro right
42:40
so he ain't going to diss me right no I will snap on you though I'm going snap on you not on the air we'll save it
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for the we'll save it for karaoke Yeah. All right. We got Meech from Denver on
42:53
the line. What up? What up, Meech? What's up? What's up? Uh, I just have a
42:58
quick question for uh Miguel. I just want to know what was your mindset going into working with Mac.
43:05
Miller on the song Weekend. Wow. Man, I had no idea what I was walking
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into. Actually, I um I got a text from him as I was leaving a mix session. Um
43:17
and the studio he was at was right off the next exit. So, it was almost like it was meant to be because
43:24
you already know I traffic the moment I passed that exit on the 405. I'm not I'm not turning around. There's no way I'm
43:30
getting back in that traffic. It could have been MJ. You I don't care. I'm very sorry. I'll see you tomorrow. Hit me before 5 or You
43:38
know what I'm saying? like don't hit me there right now. But um uh he hit me with a text like man I'm at the studio
43:43
right now. Would you pull up? And I was like bro I'm one exiting away. Yeah. I I'll come over there right now.
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And I did and you know weekend the weekend um he was already had that loaded up.
43:56
Most of the song was already tracked and he had a vision for it. We cut it right then and there and that was it. It was
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the easiest mo. It was it was I think from ideiation just even the possibility
44:08
of it. It happened like that. Yeah. So it was kind of meant to be happen
44:13
alignment. Did y'all hang out after that at all? We kicked it for a little bit but then I just I was like, "Okay, cool. Let me
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know if you need anything." And I sl Yeah, that was magic. Jen Jen is that Jen over there just walked in. Jen say that she
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runs this place. That's dope. What up, Jen? Su just
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Say hi to this is Miguel, Grammy winning artist right here. Come say hi. Make me look good, Jen. We're live on
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air now. All right. Come on, Jen. All right. Cool. But um don't be shy, Jen. Jen ran out of there, too, boy. They
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they got to get out. That's an amazing story. I saw you post about D'Angelo, too. Did y'all Did y'all get a You
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didn't get a chance to meet Never got to meet D'Angelo. I never got to meet D, man. Yeah. Um one of those ones.
44:57
Yeah, that's a hero. That's a hero. Um I didn't have the words cuz so when he
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passed last week I was on my way to like a AP interview or something
45:12
and um I found it in the car and then we just went up and you know did the interview and so I was still kind of
45:18
processing it and I still don't really have the words but um I mean D is
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carried the torch uh for funk, for soul
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and he really created his own
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he just did his own is we don't have a lot of those left who have really made a
45:46
mark on music and impacted all of us like he did after Prince.
45:51
Mhm. Yeah. After Prince. Wow. You go. Okay. So, who is carrying the torch? Right. Yeah.
45:57
And the distance between Prince really making his impact and establishing his
46:03
sound and anyone else kind of doing that on the R&B soul funk side is really not a
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lot of people. And D'Angelo along with Soul Aquarians and everyone who who really have
46:14
are at the forefront of that movement and music D still stands out
46:20
as carving his own lane sonically. You know what I'm saying? and and I think since him Balo has carved his own lane
46:28
sonically man love Balo um of course Erica but in
46:33
terms of male male Jill all of the Angie rest in you know what I'm saying all of
46:38
the everyone kind of carved their own lane but in that time his sound was so distinct he
46:45
was at the forefront of a very different distinct like what is this I know this but woo this is this is
46:51
something else Mhm. And it wasn't like, oh, I get you, when you listen to D, it wasn't like, oh,
46:56
he's trying to be Prince. Yeah. It wasn't like that at all. It was like, oh, I hear it,
47:02
but this is something else. And I think his impact on on music is
47:08
one that will just we're never going to the world will never sound the same without D'Angelo. He's not going to sound the
47:14
same. It was, you're right. It was like the hip-hop soul funk. It was just this all
47:19
of it because the beats would start going and the swag, the you know the
47:26
references, the Tims on stage, the the no shirt, the je the it was all every
47:32
You're right. It was everything full package. A whole other other way of bringing all bring bringing bringing it
47:38
all together and making it his own. Um we're going to miss that the dish. You know what I mean? We're gonna we're
47:44
gonna miss that that gumbo for sure. And that's it's important that we we really um
47:49
acknowledge folks too while we can while they here. When I when I hear you talk about D'Angelo and it's a name that I
47:56
feel is not mentioned enough especially when they do the whole best producer thing and the whole nine Raphael Sadik
48:02
Raphael Raphael Sadik if you if you I know people have these
48:07
best producers list and all of this speak on it and y'all never mention Raphael Sadi and
48:13
he has been successful at being like no I'm chilling I'm low key like you go through the you go through the credits
48:19
and you're like woo every five years you got something that's going to live with us forever that we're forever going to
48:25
go back to. Yeah. Forever. Every 3 years. Every three years. And he was the first
48:31
person being from Oakland to sit and tell me about D cuz he they had worked on Lady and I feel like Brown Sugar
48:36
maybe. Uh he's on he's on all the whole Yeah. all the albums. And um to hear you say that Ray used to tell me
48:43
this these things way back in the day. You mean Raphael Sadique? Oh, I'm sorry. Did I say first name? Yeah. My bad. See Miguel told Watch your
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man. That's how he drops. He's like a bad guy.
48:56
Y'all know him. Let me take one or two more calls real quick. Uh Meech, you a citizen, brother. That's way in the morning.
49:01
Thank you, Meech. Let's see what you sparked. He said, "Yeah." Uh let's go to Louisiana. Wow.
49:06
Uh we got um Mike on the line. Go ahead. What's up, Mike? Hey, Mike. Leo
49:13
Miguel from Louisiana. What up, Mike? What up, Mike? That's right.
49:18
Yo, Miguel. Hey, you call yourself as as an artist like like Sway call himself
49:25
Jamard and all that there. So is your name really Michael? No, my name is Miguel. I'm named after
49:31
my father for sure for also you're the junior. Did you name your baby the third?
49:38
Um different different name but not not the third. I'm not the third. My father is is the second named after my tata my
49:45
grandfather. Miguel Langel is that's my father's name. Miguel Anel. I'm Miguel
49:50
Jontel Bntel and my son is different than me as well. Yeah. My name is Michael Maggie Jr. My
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father is Michael Maggie Sior and my son probably going to have the middle name of Michael. Thank you for that.
50:02
That's right. Yes. We got to keep the lineage though. You know, we stay in there. Right. Right. But it don't matter if
50:08
your son don't name his son the same thing. Right. Right. I think a little nod is
50:14
nice. A small nod. Like just put me in there. Even if you use my middle name, I'm a good child.
50:22
Super citizen, brother. Love you, too. In the morning. Yeah, man. Jamal in Nebraska. What you want to say? Wow. Nebraska.
50:28
Yep. Jamal. [Applause] Jamal. You there? This call is I'm here with Jamal though.
50:36
What happened? He said Jamal. Oh, Jamal. My bad. Jamal. My bad. Jamal, how you doing, Brad?
50:42
He's recording the call. He's recording the call. Hold. Hey, let me let it sound good for you then. Hold
50:47
on now. Hold up, Jamal. Hold up, man. Hold up. You recording the call? You got to do it again. Yo, ladies and gentlemen, he's here like
50:53
Miguel is here to talk to this citizen. Okay, Jamal. Miguel came to talk to
50:59
Jamal about his project. Jamal from Nebraska is on. Miguel talking to Jamal.
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Jamal. So, for everybody, we finally got him. Jamal is on the line. Come on.
51:12
Hey, Jamal. made it happen, man. Yeah, bro. It's an honor, man.
51:20
You too. Take your time, brother. Hey, so say hi
51:26
to Miguel. What you got for him? Yo, uh, once again, man, it it was a pleasure hearing your story, man, and
51:32
how you went through the whole process on the album. Um, you know, really, really dope creative as always, man. I
51:37
really love the work on Coco. The question I have for you is as a creative man, I know you go through a lot of
51:43
different processes as you are thinking about creating songs. How do you stay consistent? Like you talked about
51:49
earlier, staying resilient and staying true to your sound. I I know you're creating so many different songs. So, how do you stay,
51:56
you know, stay stay um say these songs are going to be be on this project and how do you say, you know what, I'm going
52:02
to go in Spanish or English on this. Uh as a creative, you go through so many different modes. So, Could you speak to
52:09
that? Yeah. Yeah. Choosing. Yeah. Yeah. How choosing is um the the work reveals itself for me. So, um I
52:17
didn't know what this album was going to culminate in. I just knew that I I was
52:24
speaking what was real for me in real time. Um, and I took in the end when I
52:30
when I could see it, um, it was a song in Spanish, a song on the album called Plato that really gave the album the
52:39
shape that I it was like, oh, this is the statement and everything else should center around this message. And the
52:47
message in the song is that I'm I'm reflective and and thinking about the
52:54
journey and what I had to sacrifice and what my family had to sacrifice and what
53:00
everyone has to sacrifice in their journey through life and how integral
53:06
finding purpose in the chaos is into really creating you know the the kind of
53:12
energy and the determination that growth requires. So when I wrote the song, it
53:18
it was in Spanish and I could only tell that story in Spanish and it informed the rest of the of the project. So that
53:25
was the one that that gave me the this is the theme. Now let me build
53:30
everything that's happened in the la let me let me give you all the moments that got me here
53:35
in in the last eight years. And so that was kind of the the tent pole or that was the cornerstone so to speak. And I
53:42
just kind of went through all of the moments throughout the eight years and that felt that spoke to that and gave
53:48
the audience a sense of like where I was growing from. And that's why the first song is kaos the message of that song is
53:56
which is I prefer my pain which is instead of a instead of a
54:02
boring life or instead of a life without color. So, I came into writing this album and starting this album
54:08
looking at all of the chaos I was creating in my life like I needed it
54:14
that I needed all the smoke that I needed the I was the you like I was the drama instead, you know, so to speak.
54:21
And that was what Exactly. You know what I mean? It was like I'm the I'm the problem. Oh, it's me.
54:26
Am I the drama? Yeah. Really? And um and that's how I start. That's that's where I was. And
54:31
then the album kind of goes through really coming coming to terms with my avoidance. Um how I lean into my
54:39
hedonistic ways to not not address, you know, some internal conflict, what that
54:44
internal conflict is, my identity and so on and so forth. And then coming to the realization that it's all about, you
54:51
know, the process, um the violent process and beautiful nature of change and um that's chaos. That's Kyle's
54:58
Kyle. Yo. Hey Jamal, great question. I'm glad we saved you for last, brother. You
55:04
really brought it on, man. Way the finale. All right, take a bow, Jamal. Let's go. Thanks, Jamal.
55:10
Hey. Hey. I'm I'mma give you your citizenship and I'm going to see if Miguel can say a sway in the morning.
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All right, so this is very official. Let's go. Jamal, you a citizen. That's right. On on sway in the morning.
55:22
There you go. Nailed it. He killed that. All right, Jamal. Have a
55:27
beautiful day. Give it up for Miguel, y'all. Oh man, this was a beautiful amazing man,
55:32
amazing reunion. Appreciate it. Right. And every time. Every time, brother. And uh thank you
55:38
for sharing the the joy in the pain and and then the process and the results
55:43
of it, man. And and then the blueprint moving forward for the next 10 years. 40th will be tomorrow.
55:50
This is a milestone. That's right. Your 40th birthday, man. I can't believe it. When you reflect on the number 40
55:57
growing up, dude, what h how do you what what do you see when you look at your life this past 40 years,
56:04
man? What are your reflections? This is a milestone. Are you where you thought you would be?
56:10
Well, well beyond well beyond. And it's kind of like the buzzer beater, you know, in the very in the very the the
56:17
the more recent past. um the tremendous amount of growth that I'm grateful to
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have um achieved in terms of myself and and knowing where I want to go and how I
56:30
want to feel and what I get to do um you know on behalf of my son my audience as
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well you know and how I can have a deep conversation with him through the art support other artists man I'm I'm um
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tremendously grateful yeah man congratulations let me give you some advice too cuz I heard you say
56:48
earlier in the conversation In 10 years, I'll be 50. And when that happens, that'll be the best decade of your life.
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Welcome to freedom. Welcome to liberation. That's the freedom. Freedom is what?
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Cuz you going you going to find out. I predict to you this decade of your 40s
57:06
will be the best by far. Word. I guarantee it. I'm with that.
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This is going to be your best by far. All that comes with it. Mhm. You're going to have a better uh your
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blender is better now. Let's go. So, you're processing things differently, right? This is going to I'm excited for you.
57:23
Let's go. I turned 40. I was working at MTV and my daughter um surprised me. She was
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I'm not sure. She was eight or something. She surprised me uh or maybe nine. And she surprised me
57:36
and did a a 40th birthday. I wasn't going to celebrate it, right? And she did little invitations to
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all my co-workers who I some I didn't even rock with, you know, inviting them all to my house.
57:49
Wow. In Harlem, right? When they all she
57:54
showing up, right? But it was a beautiful experience and it made me look at it differently cuz I didn't, you
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know, I didn't have her, you know, in my 20s, you know what I mean? And
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when I got to that decade of 40, the understanding, the give a [ __ ] factor,
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all those things you carried in your backpack before, they won't even make it to the zipper, bro. That's right. Backpack turn into a
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wallet. Enjoy your birthday, man. Enjoy that, man. Enjoy it with your son, your
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family, your loved ones. Give it up for Miguel, man. Give Drew a raise, you know, all of this, man.
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Yes. Yes. Chaos, man. The album is out tonight at
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midnight. Make sure y on his birthday. On his birthday on his birthday. Yeah. Go bang that. Buy the vinyl at
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s1c.la on my for my birthday. There you go. That's right. Buy where? S1c.
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There you go. All right. This is Miguel. Thank you for coming by. We love you, brother. All right. And much more success. And we
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going to work on that project. All right. Better be. No bars, though. No bars.
59:00
Say we get Heather be on the project. Come on now. Yes, sir.
59:05
I had to bring him back out. We got to bring you back out. There's a something behind this with
59:10
him. We'll talk and you should be you in my top five. We We'll talk.
59:15
Here's the problem with this guy. So, Red Man, who we all know and love, right? Get the verse ready, DB, if you got it.
59:21
Red Man dropped a new project uh this year, right? And he asked me to be a part of it. He
59:27
did a track with artist from Jersey. I had no interest because that minute that you was talking about, you know, you f
59:33
I'm good, Reggie. But I realized what he was going to do and what it meant to him for that project. So I jumped on,
59:39
right? And I'm out. Like I was in and out and I was out. This man won't let it go. Why don't you
59:47
just keep going? But it's to all I'm so glad you explained what you broke down just in that the energy and the strength
59:54
and all that it takes to create, right? as an artist, as a creator, it's a lot more than what people think. And there's
1:00:00
a space when you actually writing, then you have to go in the studio and record it,
1:00:05
and then the space you have to get into performing. It's all the things, you know, and people never look at that part
1:00:11
of it, but he won't let up. Okay, let me do this. Miguel, I know you got to go. Let's throw the verse on this. And if you hear her rap and you
1:00:18
feel like, you know, I think this would be great for this project I want to put together that you and him putting together cuz now you're helping. I'm
1:00:24
helping this. deep. I'm just I got
1:00:50
[Applause] Miguel, thank this man.
1:00:56
That's hard. Stop playing. So the concept he put all me, Latifah, Nikki D, the artist from Jersey. Yeah,
1:01:02
we all got together in one track. So put together put together a project of illmc's that
1:01:08
need recogn. All right, that's it. That's what we going to do. DJ See, we appreciate you.
1:01:16
LA Dodgers official. Congratulations on the World Series. Let's go Dodgers. Let's go Dodgers. Let's go Dodgers.
1:01:21
Let's go do Dodgers.

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