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Apr 24, 2024
🎤 Dive into the untold stories of The Notorious B.I.G. as Biggie's former publicist, Dr. LaJoyce Brookshire, shares exclusive, never-before-heard tales from the golden era of hip-hop. From groundbreaking moments to intimate behind-the-scenes stories, this video uncovers the layers of Biggie's career and personal evolution. Dr. Brookshire, alongside other influential women in the industry, reveals the unseen forces shaping the culture. Don't miss these captivating insights from the women who orchestrated the soundtrack of a generation. Subscribe to catch more legendary stories like these! 🌟 #BiggieSmalls #HipHopHistory #MusicLegends
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Robin Dunn Interview
1:40 - Tuma Basa Insights
3:00 - Le Joyce Brookshire Discussion
7:20 - Le Joyce Brookshire on Biggie’s Passing
8:00 - Women in Media Importance
9:55 - Robin Dunn Insights
10:55 - Laurieann Gibson Conversation
15:38 - Robin D. Stone Insights
17:20 - Media Training Overview
21:15 - Q&A Session
22:17 - Importance of Women Behind The Mic
25:03 - Women Behind The Mic Features
27:29 - Dr. LeJoy Brookshire Closing Remarks
28:06 - Event Farewell
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Our Guest today is goes by the name of
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Dr Le Joyce Brookshire that's right as
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the co-creator of women behind the mic
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she has a great story to tell she was a
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former high power publicist to stars
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like Usher Tony Braxton artha Franklin
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Whitney Houston Shan puffy cones
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Notorious BIG uh she has a podcast
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called ask the doctor ask good doctor
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ask the good doctor she's a professor at
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city college in the Clive Davis
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Institute at NYU she's an author uh
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she's been a part and adjacent and
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around many Milestone achievements that
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have happened in this music industry and
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she's here to celebrate the book women
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behind the mic curators of the culture
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Volume 2 The Hip Hop Edition please
0:44
welcome the one and only Le Joyce
0:47
Brookshire to the show well you going to
0:51
film me the whole time I'm filming
0:55
you also with her uh do you want to do
0:59
the honors and introduce your Co your
1:01
co- guest oh no we have to have your
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voice please okay I'm currently on the
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faculty of one of my favorite schools of
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dance I've often gone there to support
1:10
and and buy tickets to some of the
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amazing shows I'm talking about the
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Alvin ay School of Dance um in City
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College of New York teaching hip-hop
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dance and culture uh she has
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choreographed for and Stage some of the
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biggest names in entertainment like
1:23
Chris Brown Missy Elliot Tony braaton
1:26
Next Level JayZ Nickelodeon YouTube I
1:31
think she did something with Sesame
1:32
Street if I'm not mistaken please
1:34
welcome the one and only Robin Dunn is
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here hey
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Robin welcome welcome this next young
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lady is a sister of mine we came up in
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the game together when I was a young lad
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as a MC work uh as an independent artist
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uh she was um a student at Mills College
1:51
and she was able to put together
1:53
coordinate a lot of important platforms
1:56
um the rap symposiums and panel
1:58
discussions where we had a chance to
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talk about the future of our culture and
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what would it look like to us as
2:05
teenagers and you fast forward decades
2:07
in the game uh she's done the slew of
2:10
work uh she has written of album
2:12
campaigns for Superstars like the
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miseducation of Lauren heel just to name
2:16
a few today she's an awardwinning
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voiceover artist and she's the author of
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handle your entertainment business she's
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originally from the Bay Area Mills
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College stand up as a young glad I've
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supported and been on many of panel
2:30
discussions with her she saw the rise of
2:33
swaying King Tech wow fly Force that's
2:36
right we went back to tight Le and F
2:39
right was she could tell you stuff
2:42
taking a shirt off while he's DJing yes
2:44
and showing off yes she could tell you
2:46
stories no one else people have tried
2:49
for decades to find please welcome the
2:51
one and only timum Shaka Tim so good to
2:54
be back yo good to have you back Tim
2:57
Visa good to see you uh lejoy tell us
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yes I want to ask you about uh before we
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talk about the book cuz you did a lot of
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work with J Records right was it or
3:09
erist Arista with Clyde was at Arista
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clyve was at Arista and I was working in
3:14
radio yes you were yes and doing
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syndicator radio and all of these
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different things so we've managed to
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cross paths and you seen some amazing
3:23
things well did you be friend biggie at
3:25
that time oh yes how was his publicist
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you were Biggie's publicist wow until
3:30
the end until the end oh my goodness end
3:32
beginning to end beginning to end what
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was he can you tell me about his metam
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metamorphosis as a person oh okay well
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initially we got a very Rocky start I
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was um it I heard he was difficult and
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had not been media trained so our very
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first day together the Press were coming
3:51
in about three hours I arranged for him
3:53
to come to the the office at bad boy so
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that we could do a little media training
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down and dirty really quick and I'm
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correcting him don't say this yes answer
4:00
the question with the question he just
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sat back in his chair he said you bossy
4:03
and I said yes sir answer the question
4:06
with the question don't say the n-word
4:07
and then he said you a bossy B and I
4:10
said it's Miss B to you now answer the
4:12
question with the question don't say the
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nword he said I'll be right back about
4:16
15 minutes later he didn't come back I
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went to look for him uhuh I ended up in
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Michelle Joyce's office I said you see
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big she said he got on the elevator he
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wasn't left the building and so it was a
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rocky like that the first year W then
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when they understood
4:30
that I was really on their side then it
4:33
became all love he started calling me ma
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but it was initially so the
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metamorphosis of him is that he started
4:40
to understand that show business is more
4:42
business than show and I took great
4:46
effort to educate him okay you got you
4:49
don't know how many people I need to uh
4:51
make accommodations for then this is
4:53
coming out of your budget sir I started
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showing spreadsheets and he was like oh
4:58
then it started just being twop instead
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of 22 wow how did you see him during the
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time of his demise were you around at
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that time I had just left La I had a
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terrible feeling something would happen
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and uh this is real hard to talk about I
5:14
didn't know you were going here take I
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didn't want to talk about this but okay
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uh let me say this big was a friend of
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mine as well Tim Bea tell you when he
5:23
came to the Bay um our promotion company
5:27
is the one that handle big and Craig Mac
5:29
my brother used to take big to my
5:31
grandmother's house in East Oakland off
5:32
of High Street where she down the street
5:34
from where she went he came to Gavin 4
5:36
days before Los Angeles so I was one of
5:38
the last people to interview him didn't
5:39
I bring him uh it was
5:42
yep yes so so I just want to hear about
5:45
my friend from from years ago that's um
5:49
that that last day the day before the
5:51
vibe party uh we had an event to do and
5:56
some press and actually CH choker CH
5:59
choker
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leg time he came and met us at the
6:03
Beverly Hills and uh at the hotel the
6:06
Beverly Hills Hotel and we're standing
6:07
on the steps and he said do you have any
6:09
more tickets to the vibe party and I
6:10
said yeah you may have mine because I'm
6:13
not going but don't tell anybody I'm GNA
6:15
leave because I looked at my schedule
6:17
and I wondered why am I staying out here
6:18
two more days and it was to go to two
6:19
more parties I was like no you know what
6:21
you got to know when to leave the party
6:23
no I'm I'm going to leave and so he said
6:26
I said you should be going to London
6:28
like you should be like oh my they love
6:30
me out here I was like they booed you
6:31
tonight but you know go handle the
6:33
business in London and you know we've
6:34
been out here like 10 days let's go and
6:37
he said no and so he and CH went I sent
6:39
Pizza to the room and then I tipped off
6:42
and I didn't say anything to anybody
6:44
next thing I know Michelle Joyce was
6:46
calling my house who's my co-creating
6:48
woman behind the mic she was calling my
6:50
house in the middle of the night and she
6:52
said everybody's looking for you in
6:54
La why turn on the TV big is
6:58
dead and looked at that truck I had been
7:01
in that truck every day yeah sitting
7:04
behind him it was the only place I could
7:05
fit you know we all squeezed in the
7:06
truck and sitting behind him and he had
7:09
you know broken his femur so he was
7:10
walking with a cane so he had SE all the
7:11
way back but we're running around and
7:13
we're doing press and we're handling
7:15
business and that was our last time
7:17
together wow um thank you for sharing
7:20
that I really appreciate that LE Joyce
7:22
Brookshire is here we talk about the the
7:25
the book women behind the mic reason why
7:27
I thought that story was important
7:29
reason why I talked about Tamba and and
7:31
the Synergy we created when we were
7:34
younger is because the symposiums the
7:36
platforms that she created that's right
7:38
brought a lot of exposure to a lot of
7:40
artists that's right which is how I met
7:41
toisa in the first place okay and so you
7:44
wouldn't know these stories that there
7:46
was a woman that was directing big and
7:50
telling big how he should pontificate or
7:53
how he should how he should speak and
7:54
represent himself and to me this is kind
7:57
of what this book is all about it is
7:59
women behind the mic curators of the
8:02
culture when I first started working at
8:04
MTV in 2000 and I had I was good on the
8:08
west coast I was King teching our
8:11
Titans we had it we had it popping I
8:13
didn't have to go top to bottom yes Bay
8:16
in LA in LA and we had the West Coast on
8:19
lock but coming to MTV put me in a um I
8:22
was out of my comfort zone I purposely
8:25
lived on a a futon at someone Kelly K's
8:28
house wow didn't want to live in a lap
8:30
of luxury like we were living in La I
8:32
needed the hunger right and um um Mor F
8:35
and who's changed her name I always I
8:38
have to learn her last name and uh Elon
8:41
Jade who works for Tyler Perry were the
8:44
women who brought me in and said did
8:47
exactly what you did for big you about
8:49
to do MTV News you ever do news nah man
8:52
I I got it nah you ain't got it that's
8:55
right let me show you how it's done
8:57
that's right it was women who got Ed me
9:00
to that success when nurturers the
9:02
nurturers naturally naturally I would I
9:05
would feed them and we'd get up early
9:07
for press runs and then I said okay you
9:10
can have a smoothie or you can have
9:12
fruit until we get to have lunch make
9:14
sure they have a big lunch and then I
9:15
purposely would not plan anything after
9:18
lunch until like 3:30 4:00 and I'd let
9:21
them pig out at lunch but you can't have
9:23
alcohol because tonight after we do the
9:24
thing and then we have the dinner
9:25
tonight now you can have the alcohol so
9:27
I was the good doctor even before I was
9:28
the good doctor
9:30
but then get we get in the car in limo
9:32
and tell the limo driver just drive
9:34
around for 2 hours until we get to MTV
9:36
and wake us up at 3:30 and it was like
9:37
literally everybody rocked asleep
9:39
because now you ate lunch and you have
9:40
the itis and men don't think about that
9:43
kind of thing but a mama knows that you
9:46
got up at six o'clock to be on the air
9:47
at six o'clock you got up at 5 o'clock
9:49
to be on the air at six o'clock and I
9:51
know you're tired the small details
9:53
matter the small details matter um man
9:55
this is going to be a great this is
9:56
already a great conversation I also want
9:58
to mention Robin dun Robin welcome to
10:01
the show thank you than you for having
10:03
me I'm happy to be here my sister Enzo
10:06
Enzo Enzo Khalifa uh we call her G life
10:11
um as I grew up uh grew up dancing doing
10:14
West African dance okay at mosw Park in
10:18
North Oakland um at Manzanita Recreation
10:21
Center in East Oakland uh it was
10:23
something that wasn't necessarily my
10:25
choice but my sister was older so
10:27
anything she did we had to do with her
10:29
but then we learned about the history of
10:31
dance the messaging in dance the
10:33
tradition of dance where certain dances
10:35
come from how dance really in my opinion
10:38
uh taught me a certain Rhythm and that
10:40
rhythm is transferable when in how you
10:42
communicate verbally and otherwise right
10:45
so my my whole confidence the way I I
10:49
might stand or walk in the room really
10:51
was developed through dance right can
10:54
you tell us your story of dance my story
10:57
of dance started way back in Queens
10:59
where I'm from uh at a place called the
11:01
Charlotte poock dance studio from there
11:05
I I danced and began to teach and was
11:08
introduced to Mr Bill Curtis of the fatb
11:11
band The Fat back band we just had a
11:14
conversation about the Fatback Band
11:17
That's of Sonic being the first ever
11:19
hip-hop band but people thought the
11:21
Fatback Band exactly right was the first
11:25
to produce and record and release a
11:28
commercial rap record they never get the
11:30
credit for that MH and during that time
11:35
I was a background dancer singer
11:37
performer was in college and got my
11:41
degree in business and then when I
11:44
graduated worked behind the scenes um in
11:46
the office of the Fatback Band toured
11:49
with them and then later on things like
11:52
things that transpired my sisters and I
11:54
created a company called Doran company
11:56
we were the first to bring the art form
11:58
of hi pop dance to a mainstream Studio
12:01
wow there are many that get the credit
12:03
for that as well so these are stories
12:06
that need to be told I'm what year was
12:08
that oh Lord
12:11
okay I should say it I should say I
12:14
always say it my class it was like 1989
12:17
I still had a big behind last time that
12:19
I checked so check come on got a hyena
12:25
up in here
12:27
hyena on so so so so Alvin ay how did
12:32
that happen and and tell people who
12:34
Alvin ay is uhhuh Alvin Al is a man that
12:40
and and what's so wonderful right now is
12:42
that they're doing a a whole story like
12:46
documenting his story and this a
12:47
documentary film out about his life he
12:50
believed that Dan should be brought to
12:52
the people he was originally from the
12:54
south started his company and also
12:58
decided that he wanted a diverse company
13:01
so he was one of the first to do that
13:03
this and and now we have a school right
13:05
on 55th Street in 9th Avenue that caters
13:09
to the world it's the most um popular
13:13
and important black institution and and
13:15
dance as we know it I've been there for
13:18
21 years I was brought there by Denise
13:21
Jefferson and as you guys were speaking
13:23
about biggie Denise Jefferson in terms
13:26
of who she is to the school may she rest
13:28
in piece was somebody
13:31
who was uh my mentor and I was the first
13:36
to be in the room with sneakers back in
13:38
' 89 it was um um Broadway Dance Center
13:42
and and one of my students would say
13:44
would would always talk about how I
13:47
moved into spaces like that with my
13:49
hip-hop gear uh just changing the game
13:53
disrupting and and so now we have all
13:58
kinds of um classes that we offered
14:01
there and uh my sisters and I were the
14:03
first to lay that groundwork did it
14:06
sounds like minus I was the first in
14:09
sneakers but that is such a huge deal
14:12
for them right hello right it is it is
14:16
because from bare feet to ballet
14:19
slippers there you go oh Denise
14:21
Jefferson called me and asked two years
14:24
prior to that I had asked to uh I I
14:26
applied to be to teach at the school and
14:28
didn't he he anything and when I got
14:30
that phone call simultaneous to that I
14:33
was working with Mona Scott Young on
14:35
some work with Missy Elliot on
14:37
her all that was happening all at one
14:40
time and so we entered that building and
14:43
we we're 21 years deep right now wow you
14:46
did some of Miss You choreographed some
14:48
of Missy's videos well what I did was Mr
14:50
Wiggles uh Mr Wiggles and Buddha stretch
14:53
with the first Buddha stretch salute to
14:55
the legend Mr Wiggles beat boy
14:57
extraordinaire he was on one of the
14:59
panels yeah okay yeah no doubt it's like
15:02
it was so interesting because I was the
15:04
traditionally trained dancer we must do
15:06
a warmup um I created the pedological
15:09
approach to the dance and so we went
15:12
from the club to the studio to
15:16
approaching dance in a similar way as
15:18
modern dancers would except with our
15:20
sneakers doing our thing bringing the
15:22
culture um and there's a video out now
15:25
on Instagram that just has me talking
15:27
about the fact that it is a culture and
15:30
Beyond the sneakers and the dance that
15:33
those the other elements are important
15:35
as well all right I love this Robin D is
15:37
here man come on Legend legendary Tracy
15:40
you want to jump in yeah I'm so happy
15:42
that all three of you ladies are here
15:43
with us especially because I can relate
15:46
dance was one of my first loves and then
15:48
my entry point to entertainment industry
15:50
Dr lejoy was actually publicity yay and
15:54
thinking about that because you come
15:55
with so she's a writer too oh yeah right
15:57
all everyone yeah
15:59
is a part of um all of my passions that
16:02
have L me led me here on
16:04
SiriusXM publicity I feel like for a lot
16:07
of folks when it comes to the
16:08
entertainment industry usually their
16:12
seduction is to be front and center
16:14
right it's to be Talent what I found I
16:17
didn't even hear the term publicity PR
16:20
public relations until I was 18 from
16:24
doing some Googling and then I said oh
16:26
snap this has so many of my my skill
16:29
sets put together let me go explore this
16:32
that makes me wonder for you what led
16:35
you to PR you know I think this what you
16:37
speak of in terms of the publicist
16:40
wanting to be the celebrity that's the
16:41
new school way that's not how it all
16:45
began and what led me to publicity was
16:47
my writing skills a publicist has to be
16:50
an excellent writer yes and be able to
16:52
crank that press releases out fast like
16:54
Mr Davis call
16:58
Davis about Clive Davis I need but it's
17:02
also so much more it is so much more but
17:05
it starts I mean the writing is the
17:07
skill and so and you've got to be able
17:09
to rewrite and massage a thing and make
17:13
it say exactly what you want it to say
17:15
and without breaching anybody and what
17:18
and what any confidences can you also
17:20
share a bit more because hearing about
17:23
um media training yes and we have so
17:25
many conversations about the
17:27
underdevelopment
17:29
of artists these days is gonna jump in
17:32
on that one yeah feel free everyone like
17:35
compare media training um from the early
17:39
chapters of your career to what we have
17:43
now or don't have now I think that what
17:45
we tried to do at Arista was emulate the
17:48
mtown way yeah and you know the
17:50
blueprint that's right it was it was the
17:52
blueprint and it worked because if you
17:55
go home and put on something right now
17:57
some Temptations doom doom doom
17:59
that you're gonna you G and you're gonna
18:01
see it right you see you see The
18:03
Temptations doing the thing and the
18:05
Jackson Five and you you can actually
18:07
feel that choreography and it and it and
18:10
it it goes along with the music and so
18:14
not only does artist development start
18:16
in a studio so we take them to Robin to
18:18
get their staging together and then we
18:20
sit them down and say this is how you
18:22
speak to the media this is how you
18:23
sidestep something that you don't want
18:24
to discuss and this is how you dress and
18:27
we take them and be have them styled
18:29
mhm and okay and so now all of those
18:31
things now now we're into this culture
18:34
that looks like um I'm not really sure
18:36
what to call it it's stripper culture
18:38
slash prison culture slash uh things
18:41
that don't belong on the stage and I
18:43
just look at that and I go you know
18:44
what's crazy about them being on a show
18:46
looking like that that they had a budget
18:48
to and somebody bought
18:50
that I that's that's what I say when I
18:53
look at it that I cannot believe
18:54
somebody paid money for that and y'all
18:57
let them come out looking this way that
18:59
we would we would look at what they were
19:01
going to wear 20 ways come Sunday and
19:03
have alternates to put in to to take
19:05
this out no this and and make sure that
19:08
it was absolutely picture perfect and I
19:10
don't think that much care is being
19:12
placed upon it yeah the difference is
19:14
quality control that's it you can be
19:17
authentic you can represent where you're
19:19
from you know you can speak to your life
19:21
experience yeah even if it involves you
19:24
know hardship incarceration whatever the
19:27
case may be
19:29
but it's up to us as the executives as
19:31
the handlers to provide a filter and
19:35
provide some guard rails yes so that
19:36
they can be their best selves when
19:38
they're public facing and that's really
19:40
the difference that I'm seeing when I
19:42
was a campaign writer at Sony there were
19:45
so many things that an artist had to go
19:47
through before they could even touch the
19:49
public that's right so we're talking
19:51
about you know Destiny's Child we're
19:54
talking about Jagged Edge we're talking
19:56
about Nas we're talking about Will Smith
19:59
I mean 5050 you know these are all
20:01
artists that I work with and I watched
20:03
them go through the assembly line watch
20:05
them you know hit benchmarks okay well
20:08
now you're ready and those benchmarks
20:11
aren't there for so many artists anymore
20:13
because you know there was an executive
20:15
brain drain with the Advent of streaming
20:17
and ripping back in 2000 and so when the
20:20
revenue dropped you know those
20:21
Executives filtered out to other
20:23
Industries and then when there became a
20:25
focus on you know letting um digital
20:29
metrics do an anr yeah then you don't
20:33
have a person there what year do you
20:34
think that started transitioning to oh I
20:37
can pinpoint it because I went I went
20:40
from writing campaigns about albums to
20:43
writing campaigns about piracy that was
20:44
in 2000 okay so that's when you have
20:47
lime wire and you know um Napster right
20:52
and the industry was not paying
20:54
attention they needed to actually take
20:57
control of their digital content but
20:59
instead they allow tech companies and I
21:01
talk about this in my first book um they
21:03
allowed tech companies to sort of Drive
21:05
the distribution once brick and mortar
21:07
was no more and so from that point you
21:10
know it became oh well the ones and
21:12
zeros are more important the metrics are
21:13
more important but the human resources
21:16
who represent the teams and these
21:18
companies are actually the most
21:20
important and you can tell the
21:21
difference I mean look now when we we
21:22
look at today's hip-hop artists the ogs
21:25
are rocking hard and they winning right
21:28
now I mean Marley brought Lauren and
21:32
bust out for Coachella and they are
21:34
developed seasoned methodical strategic
21:39
performers that's right yeah they're not
21:41
going out there winging it they're not
21:42
going out there you know you're talking
21:45
about training and preparation that's
21:48
right where're and that's where when my
21:50
sisters and I had our company that was
21:52
so important because as Le Joyce
21:55
mentioned bringing artists to us they
21:57
had to go through a training ground they
21:59
had to go through a process you couldn't
22:01
just click and and send and post a video
22:05
on a device you had to actually do the
22:08
work do the work and you can't get away
22:09
from doing the
22:11
work greatness that's right I'm going to
22:13
come back this is great by the way get
22:15
these uh Beautiful People Round of
22:17
Applause uh Joyce you written about
22:20
several books uh web of deception uh
22:22
Soulful salute to that right um was made
22:27
into a movie you were the first to
22:28
accomplish that no I was the first woman
22:30
to novelize a major motion picture oh to
22:32
novelize a major Motion Picture correct
22:35
first black woman okay cool and you
22:37
wrote A Memoir about um living with a
22:40
man with AIDS living with my husband
22:42
your husband who had AIDS and didn't
22:44
know it and did I you didn't or he
22:46
didn't I didn't she got to read that
22:49
book where's that
22:52
movie yeah say it again where is that
22:55
movie hello uh so this book why why was
22:59
this book so important women behind the
23:01
mic women behind the mic was important
23:04
because we my sisters and I have found
23:07
ourselves left out of the conversations
23:10
left out of the narratives left out of
23:12
the documentaries and the
23:14
biopics as the stories have been told
23:17
and as the 50th anniversary of Hip Hop
23:20
has been discussed and celebrated women
23:22
who worked behind the scenes are
23:23
glaringly absent and we were there it is
23:27
called eraser it is a problem it is not
23:30
just happening in entertainment it is
23:32
happening in every profession it's got
23:35
to stop throughout our culture and yes
23:37
and not yes in education in every
23:41
profession eraser is occurring and women
23:44
have a voice and to Echo the sentiments
23:48
of dear Uncle Joe Madison Joe Madison
23:51
won't about the co Joe that's right we
23:54
love Joe Jo Jo Joe Nom nominated me for
23:57
the radio Hall of Fame and that's how I
24:00
got inducted into the radio hall of
24:02
fame so well deserved thank you but I
24:05
love that man he didn't not have to do
24:07
that that's right and it has we have
24:09
been overwhelmingly underestimated
24:12
undervalued and marginalized and there
24:14
was a time when we tolerated it to keep
24:17
the position and we stayed just a little
24:20
silent a a lot of us are more vocal than
24:22
others and but we stay but it's not okay
24:24
anymore it's not okay it's not because
24:26
if you're going to call all some of the
24:28
names please call them all yes I concur
24:31
cuz there's never been a point in my
24:32
career where I wasn't surrounded by
24:34
women y there you go and black women are
24:36
foundational to hip-hop yes we don't get
24:38
1520 Sedwick without Cindy Campbell
24:40
that's right you know she had that event
24:43
she asked her brother cool her to spin
24:45
you know black women have been laying
24:48
the foundation for this culture and
24:51
stewarding this culture right and really
24:53
steering a lot of artists from you know
24:55
hurting themselves in the process MH on
24:58
their ways to success yes and it's time
25:00
for those stories to be told that's I
25:03
love it man that's Tim be and shakka uh
25:05
Robin Dunn is here Dr Le Joyce
25:07
Brookshire who are some of the people
25:08
featured in the book some of the people
25:10
featured in the book are Janine kovy
25:13
Terry Ellis Ying Janine Terry Ellis Ying
25:17
writes a tribute to miss Sylvia Robinson
25:20
yes who was yes of course the Pioneer
25:23
for uh Sugar Hill record she talks about
25:27
that when when she first met her that's
25:29
correct and when she first met her she
25:31
dated Joey for a long time she dated her
25:33
son that's correct of course Michelle
25:35
Joyce Thomasina Perkins Jacqueline
25:38
Reinhardt Karen Thomas Denise J Brown
25:41
Pamela Crockett Vicky Johnson Stone love
25:44
faray your girls from the bay Lyn P ly M
25:48
Scott elanora Winslow Tammy Collins
25:51
Tammy Cobbs Vita Dyson Nash Tracy J
25:54
Jordan Tracy Jordan legendary Tracy
25:59
from MTV to sirusxm doing work
26:02
independently I ow her lunch okay Tracy
26:05
has been very um instrumental in the
26:07
success of this show no I a even going
26:10
to limit to this company correct Sirius
26:13
XM has not been the same she tells her
26:16
story since Tracy's left that's right
26:19
SiriusXM has not been the same say
26:22
louder for the Tracy left yes sir there
26:25
are shoes that cannot be filled with
26:28
Tracy Jordan's name on it it's
26:31
unfortunate that Tracy is no longer with
26:33
this company I don't think it's the best
26:36
decision for the company considering
26:38
what she brought time and change happens
26:41
that's correct so salute to Tracy Jordan
26:43
salute to Tracy Jordan thank you for
26:44
giving my sister her flowers and then we
26:47
have sweet tea the MC sweet tea is my
26:51
beat
26:54
what Audrey Washington Madison and these
26:57
are the sisters who are in there's book
26:58
and thank you for giving me that moment
27:00
to call their names so Michelle Joyce
27:02
and I who co-created this book we did so
27:05
because our sisters we put Blood Sweat
27:08
and Tears into it and there's a lot of
27:11
trouble swirling around some of the
27:12
artists that we work with and you know
27:14
what it's like taking a shovel of dirt
27:16
and tossing it on top of the good work
27:17
that we did but you know we can't
27:19
control any of that and won't but we
27:23
know that we were there in that you're
27:24
controlling it now there you go I love
27:26
it you're managing it really well
27:29
okay Dr The Joy Brookshire please give
27:31
her a round of applause I want to thank
27:33
my brother Karu Daniels k um always
27:36
keeping me on point I was kar's teacher
27:39
he told me this you used to teach Karu I
27:41
used to teach Karu what was he used to
27:44
work us damn really Rob yes he did I
27:47
introduced him what's your K story well
27:50
you know we we this the by line respect
27:53
the by line you know it's like you you
27:56
hear the name it rings in the best way
27:59
in all the halls and Karu is the truth
28:01
he's the truth true journalism true
28:03
journalism that's I taught him
28:04
journalism did you did that I did okay
28:06
cool well listen I want to thank you for
28:08
coming by the show congratulations on
28:09
the book women behind the my curators of
28:12
the culture Volume 2 The Hip Hop
28:14
Edition at La on Sunday we going to be
28:17
dancing and talking about the book yes
28:20
we are on
28:22
Sunday this weekend women behind the mic
28:25
who move women behind the mic who move
28:27
we did at Alvin where is that located
28:29
now 55th and 9th Avenue 405 West 55th
28:33
Street 3:00 3:00 yo citizens if you're
28:36
in the tri-state area trust me you want
28:38
to go to see this yes behind the.org
28:41
register on that event right register on
28:44
the event right at women behind
28:45
theme.org we'll be there Sunday okay
28:48
Tima your legendary thank you for your
28:50
contributions and your continued success
28:53
thank you thank you for having me a
28:55
pleasure there's pictures of us as we
28:57
look like children man well we were teag
29:01
yo it's great to see I wish you had some
29:04
Robin you are legendary thank you for
29:06
being on this platform okay all right uh
29:09
Dr Le Joyce thank you again
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