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yo listen
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we've had this man on the show before i
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have to be
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facts
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always love the conversation because
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it's so truthful and real man make you
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go re-evaluate your own life purpose
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100. when you see how successful the man
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has been at everything he attempts to do
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and when he does it he does it with a
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smile but behind that smile you know
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it's a lot of wisdom
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we watched this man rock out on the nba
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floor
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for years he could jump back on whenever
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he ready
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i already know that for a fact
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probably working out too right now got
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something's got a surprise for us soon
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you saw him on dancing with the stars
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six foot five moving his hips like he
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was five foot five
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xb boy like
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[Applause]
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stew might have been doing turtles 1990s
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and thomas flares at one point in his
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life i was so amazed
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i was so amazed that the other tall guy
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could move his head because were you
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jealous or amazed or jealous we'll talk
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about that because that's what this
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podcast is all about men really
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confronting their emotions okay all
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right so i'm gonna confront my emotions
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today
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i'm here for it all right okay okay
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cause i need you to be honest with me
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okay the man came up here i give him
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listen ain't got nothing to say about
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this my skills but salute salute that
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man it's a real emcee
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and i'm hard with those uh athletes that
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be coming in with their funny sounding
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voices trying to rap
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it'd be tough
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everybody
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it's tough sitting here listening to
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some of it it is rapping
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it's rough out here yeah
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i feel like you was rapping at the same
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time you started playing basketball so
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it's different yeah yeah it takes a
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while right so some dudes just sound
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like they walking they rap like they
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walk in with two left feet
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[Music]
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okay
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go to the video
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who you think is bad
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[Applause]
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uh-oh i haven't i haven't really heard
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anybody rapping besides
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what dame
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you know he ain't bad you know where he
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from
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lou
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and uh she me damien luda only wants a
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game on your rap right no no no i'm just
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saying came on here rapper i mean in
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general oh you said
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she said y'all had been sitting there
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i thought somebody else came up there
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okay
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he wouldn't shout out to dane
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always damn damn got bars damn god but
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who wasn't allowed either how you doing
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brother
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are you little brother big brother
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that's my little big brother your little
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big brother yeah i'm older
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i'll see you one of those oh yeah i'm
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like my brother i get that i'm the
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youngest but you know they don't mean
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[ __ ] yeah it don't mean nothing no i
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don't mean [ __ ] damn i could tell you
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was just saying well you just mad at him
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when he started growing taller than you
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i wasn't mad at him it was just you know
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it just happened you know it's one day
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like it's just like damn like he big as
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hell
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he wasn't jealous at that or nothing no
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no really
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i don't ever want that's yeah i don't
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ever want what he has
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like
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and it's
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no no no no no it's crazy it's like
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certain times like we'll do crazy [ __ ]
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like we won't even talk or see each
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other but we used to live with each
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other and sometimes we'll come down and
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have the same shoes on or something he'd
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be like oh like that's crazy like we did
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it and i'm just like nah
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i don't like it yeah
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instantly
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change your shoes change your fingers
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instantly what's the best advice your
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your brother's giving you your mind
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um
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like did he ever talk you out of
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something my brother talked me out of
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doing something that would have changed
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my life forever
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and i remember the conversation like oh
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i wanted to get into some dark side of
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some oakland [ __ ] yeah and i had a whole
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yeah
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he said you can't do it
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like as if we're about to fight if you
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try to do it yeah that ain't what your
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path is we need you to go a different
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path let us do what we you know people
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do what they do
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and you cannot do it and i had a plan
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iman i promise you
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some of these dudes who talk about who
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they are in that game yeah oh you would
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have been reading books about me i had a
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cool ass plan yeah that's all what's
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that [ __ ] uh bmf um empire yeah they
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would have shot a movie about swag
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houseway i had a plan
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halfway i had a plan
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i had a plan yo but you never had that
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what we call um
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oh i had a crossroad moment right i had
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a moment uh um
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but it wasn't like i was trying to do
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some some [ __ ] i was uh
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i had it to where
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i got it in my head that i was like
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i i needed
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other i was sick of people being able to
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say anything about me like i'm like gee
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i shouldn't even be having the roses
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y'all my mind was really on the game we
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lost i'm frustrated
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these [ __ ] over here roasting and [ __ ]
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i'm just like bro i don't even like what
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like get braces i'm like bro what so i'm
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like asking my dad for mad [ __ ] like yo
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can you give me some braces
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uh
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i want to redo my my fit
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he just looking at me like don't you
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know i got four kids
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you know what i'm saying but i'm just so
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as a kid all i'm thinking about is bro
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i'm sick of roasting and fighting
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everyday cause mom's tweaking with me
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and i don't you know what i'm saying so
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i'm trying to adjust the look on the
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flyer type [ __ ]
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and
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this one here i guess my dad had brought
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home like he brought home some weight
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with whatever he had to deal with
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and he basically was like covering the
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bullets because he saw it like
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unraveling for pop but i just didn't
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understand what's going on and he's i
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just remember him yelling like nick we
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bro
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i don't know jackson yeah like i don't
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know what you looking around at dog like
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don't you know like we know how to grab
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the pots when it starts leaking bro yeah
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like he had to put it in the perspective
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you want some work get it
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save your money put it in the shoebox
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stop crying
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stop like he just was like and i was
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sitting there and i was just like
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damn bro i'm like [ __ ] was telling me
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i was a oak park kid like i was telling
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me i was a suburb kid but every time i
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asked for something i can't ever get it
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and it was making me mad because now i'm
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looking at my pop like you know what i'm
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saying like gee you ain't eating
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bro well i can't get that then you feel
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me like we live in oak park once i
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thought it was oak park i'm like [ __ ] we
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live no problem i can't get like my
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homies got the new js i ain't even got
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the new js i got two pair of ones
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perception
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right
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i got the all blacks people think i'm
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going to be doing [ __ ] bad this week
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you know what i'm saying
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talk though i'm dark skinned i ain't got
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my favorite all blacks
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exactly bro little [ __ ] running around
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with red eyes from hooping all day and
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black air force ones i like i'm on some
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[ __ ]
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i'm saying so i'm like all right i'm
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trying to switch my look up and i like i
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swear i was just bringing it to my mom
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and dad so crazy i was frustrated i was
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it probably just looked like super
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little fish yeah
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you're still tripping
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your dad said all of that he's still
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look around the man the man came in
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there and said that to me though like
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dawg like
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like he ain't not trying to get you that
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[ __ ] we can't get it
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yeah like you want it go get it then uh
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you know what i'm saying it was like a
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challenge for me i started looking at
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him different so then after that i was
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steady telling him like you know you
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gotta come to the games
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after that i started dunking that's when
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you start dunking wow wow so the dunking
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was symbolic of it was just i don't know
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it was very like i swear for lord i'm
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going like we we gonna get out of here i
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promise it was a so he put the fuel in
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you mm-hmm i mean i already had fuel
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okay no i wanted to be the best in the
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house anyway but it was so much credit
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yeah
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so every time you dunked it was just to
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get your social status like my first no
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my first three duck my first three dunks
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in high school
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i literally looked in the crowd for him
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then i would look at my dad but i was
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like yelling at them like screaming
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crazy [ __ ] to them but it was like that
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was the only time i felt like you can't
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say nothing to me i told you i told you
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like y'all y'all ain't never played up
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here dunking the ball y'all ain't get
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this high up and i'm up here this hot
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dunk in this [ __ ] i'm gonna say
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whatever i want when i come down
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you know what i'm saying like that's how
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i felt but i felt like a man cause i'm
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like i could look my brother in the eye
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and finally he can't it's something he
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can't do
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but i got it in me so i that's my moment
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to look at him and he could see me like
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everything else he just looked at me
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like i'm a little [ __ ] he saw what he
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just said like yeah you come down to
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them james i ain't wearing these jacks
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yeah he did constantly yeah he
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constantly that big brother so it's like
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how do you get your big brother to look
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you know
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[ __ ] i told you to come to the game
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what about your opponents did you give
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it to them too
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it really wasn't like that for them
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that's what i'm saying like you got to
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think
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beating beating him in the backyard and
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got
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last point i might get stole we might
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not finish that's true that's a hard win
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i need that win a lot of games didn't
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get it yeah we didn't finish the game we
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just throwing these they we throwing
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them my brother just my oldest brother
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just stopped and just dip on us like man
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y'all finna start fighting again my
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parents used to have to come out and
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separate it out yeah but it's like dawg
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that's a hard win to get i'm trying to
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get that win like this uh this team that
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just because they live in this zip code
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they get to play us right we're gonna
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wash them up kid
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i like you don't know where his
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because i think a lot of kids might have
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that diesel and that fueling them in
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high school but how did you transfer
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that energy into college because then
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that's another
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level i mean you you got it so many
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people playing on a level in college how
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did you transfer that energy there um i
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had never had access to a gym like that
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in college you you you got to like count
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your blessings like you it's perspective
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like i got to college and i was like
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like we was getting in the gym
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on our own but it was like you got to
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call a coach you got to wait for you
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gotta open up yeah you might got to do
10:45
him a favor just so that he take another
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hour or two out his day to open the gym
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for me i'm like now i got a fingerprint
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i told coach i said hey bro just leave
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the laundry room up he's like what you
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talking about lead up just leave the
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laundry room bruh i just need the towels
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i can't i can't function you leak i
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ain't got no towels in the gym i need
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like four of them right like one on the
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floor for my feet
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you say i don't like my feet touch the
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floor bro you know what i'm saying
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you what on the waist one on the
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shoulders
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hit
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too late
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if you ever notice me on a lot of
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interviews i got ashy hands because i
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watched these [ __ ] back to what
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we were saying
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we got the handstand
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we wiped the mics down
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yeah get you some of that but you know
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what i'm wondering because we're talking
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kind of about the sibling rivalry that
11:45
you guys have but when did you guys have
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your sibling camaraderie where it got to
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the point where he said let's do this
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podcast oh the pocket i mean we've been
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working together for years now like yeah
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he
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once uh
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once i finally got him to quit the nine
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to five [ __ ] like he just was he was
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huge on like you my little brother i'm
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not working for you i'm like all right
12:05
bro you work with me
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yeah that's cool
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let's get the wording right now i'm
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saying
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that's all it takes
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yeah [ __ ] i just need you to come over
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here how about that
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[ __ ] i need you to come to new york
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[ __ ] how about that
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he did
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it's funny but he did get to a point
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where he was just like big like what do
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i got to do
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like i don't know what to tell you bro
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what you why you keep wearing uniforms
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but that speaks so much in your
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character though because we hear the
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opposite so much up here like
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every just because i am who i am
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everybody thinks i'm supposed to take
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care of them and pay for so that's love
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too plus i was already like i had
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already had a life beforehand what was
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your life
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let me hear your life i had my son young
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like i was 19 so i was kind of like
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thrusted into fatherhood at that point
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and i really took it upon myself to
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you know be involved and to be there
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i had some spats in the beginning over
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like you know visitation and rights and
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[ __ ] like that so i learned a lot really
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really quick and it really
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in a way it messed with my mind so it
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was like i was really responsible like
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when i was like 19 20 21 22 and then all
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of that kind of relaxed a little bit
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once my child got a little bit older and
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i knew you know knew knew the ropes of
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what was going on and that kind of fed
13:44
into like my pride and all this and that
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because i'm like yo i've been working
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and i was driving like uh a pace bus
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like
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i had uh
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trained and worked the two years before
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he got drafted so i was just like man
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that's thrown away you know i'd love to
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come work with you but that's throwing
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away all my training all that hard work
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i did he just like
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what the [ __ ] does that mean
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i'm like dawg whatever they paying you
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i'm gonna pay you double and i'm just
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like well but just don't you know like
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bro i don't think i want to be like like
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what if we don't like working together
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by the time i get down right
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i ain't like living with you either bro
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we're here now
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we're here now did y'all share rooms
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bedrooms hell yeah we ain't have our own
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rules yeah we didn't have ain't no one
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[Music]
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shoes under there we go we gonna jug
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that make sure that you keep working
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yeah we did that yeah you gotta get
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calloway take off the front end if your
14:51
legs get too long well that was just me
14:53
because i got too tall but you know give
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me a little bit more he runs that
15:07
[Laughter]
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full-sized mattress man so this this
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podcast is called iman amongst me
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that which you just brought up i hope is
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a topic that y'all discuss because i
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know it's brothers and siblings and
15:24
perspectives coming from men and i
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remember at a time when i went through
15:28
that process of
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um
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visiting and having your rights with
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your kid and you know uh what do they
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call it you play every month child
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support
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this is what me and tracy go through
15:52
when child support stories come up he
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might need that he might need go ahead
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and hug him
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he don't even want to say the word
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can't be happier
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he don't even want to say the
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is that feeling you had at 19 and 20 and
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you can't sleep and then when you feel
16:18
happy is something that's always in the
16:19
back of your head because that ain't
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right am i gonna get to see my kid
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are they gonna take me to court they're
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gonna try to get more somebody probably
16:27
telling that person there's more there
16:29
ain't no more there
16:31
damn it you know all of those different
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things now you go through all this [ __ ]
16:35
in your mind
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and it
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and i wish
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because not everybody most guys i know
16:41
want to be there for their kids they
16:43
might not want to be in that
16:44
relationship right but they want to be
16:46
there for their kid and then when the
16:47
court proceedings come into play it
16:50
[ __ ] up generationally
16:53
the dynamic between a potential parent
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and their kid purposely purposely it's
16:58
like it's it's i'm still triggered i
17:00
haven't paid child support i don't know
17:01
how many years and it wasn't that bad
17:03
for me in the end but when i was going
17:06
through it
17:07
i couldn't sleep
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because my future your future ain't in
17:11
your control that's true you don't get
17:13
to see it on a day to day you don't you
17:14
don't you're going to see where it's
17:16
going you don't get to you'll get to
17:18
enjoy that that run to to the kid like i
17:21
i had to deal with
17:24
being an uncle and
17:26
it's like dawg i barely know my nephew
17:28
like what we doing
17:30
and they like oh we only got them on
17:31
these days and then on this holiday i'm
17:33
like but bro i'm not gonna be home like
17:35
i'm at school like i don't need like i'm
17:38
like get them on the phone and they're
17:39
like oh well
17:41
there's an issue with this it's like it
17:43
was like running into all these issues i
17:45
didn't understand none of that [ __ ] i'm
17:46
like my parents is married yeah i'm like
17:49
the times that the dad ain't around i'm
17:52
like we had our uncle he was talking
17:54
about other my uncle maurice stepped in
17:57
and it's like that that's the dad that
17:58
they knew but they didn't even talk
18:00
about their real dead so it was like we
18:01
didn't have the drama part of right
18:04
a strange relationship like i had never
18:06
seen that like y'all got a kid why are
18:08
y'all arguing yep
18:09
looking at that [ __ ] like bro
18:11
yeah y'all on the phone screaming crying
18:14
i'm like bro what's going on with y'all
18:15
man
18:16
look at you triggering old [ __ ] now
18:19
i'm trying to sleep i got a game this is
18:21
screaming to the top of his lungs i'm
18:23
like i'm looking like damn gonna kill
18:25
him but it's like no this kid [ __ ] dead
18:27
sleep dad like yeah you got a kid now
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yeah that's how my dad was he wasn't
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even coming upstairs to bother her he's
18:33
like oh no he's gonna deal with that i
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love your dad by the way
18:36
your dad was a dad oh man i love it yeah
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listen this is what we got cause we
18:41
running out of the time factors here but
18:45
i want to get iman and spit something
18:46
let's go but i want to do this
18:48
differently and i'm mad at you swayed
18:50
for acting like you forgot some of them
18:51
athletes that performed live for us at
18:53
different remote events and everything
19:08
thank you todd like what we ain't gonna
19:10
say we ain't gonna save us the missing
19:12
footage you forgot yo we had a lot of
19:14
athletes get jump on the stage and
19:16
perform these songs and it wasn't good
19:18
bro
19:20
texas
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for south by southwest yeah
19:36
tell them though
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okay that's a good thing it's a good
19:40
thing you're talking like nothing's
19:41
happening
19:43
[Laughter]
19:46
get your lyrics right
19:48
get it ready
19:50
not all of the wack freestyles and
19:51
performances happened in this studio but
19:53
it was on this show that it wasn't
19:55
always sitting right there it was on
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this show though like cause we move
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around a lot and do remote broadcasts
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but i want dame dollar and you to do
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more yeah yeah what to finally rap
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together yeah yeah i think that has to
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happen so you i'm gonna keep it to being
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with you please cause i got a podcast so
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now i gotta keep it you gotta keep it
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one honey
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they it's like um you remember when
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mello and braun came in the league yeah
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i was like they automatically got to go
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against each other yeah like that's kind
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of what they did with dave
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they made it seem like y'all they kept
20:25
saying who's the best nba basketball
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player
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that might have been me too
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but it was just i get it i get the
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narrative and i understand it but it's
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like once you once it's in my mind to
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compete like i naturally go away from
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stuff and i feel like
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that's kind of what happened early on
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like we there was no reason for us not
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to collab right both with adidas like
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yeah it was chilled as hell but then moz
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was like yeah man
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he the coldest ever i'm whoa whoa
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whoa and then you got in your feelings
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not god getting my feelings i just
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showed y'all rapping
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yeah i think not because one is better
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than the other difference two different
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styles and the substance in your music
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i'm just saying that the the narrative
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once the narrative that's the only
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reason we didn't work together i'm like
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bro it's not i've never said that man
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can't rap right so you're down to work
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with him yeah i just i don't like you
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can't count me like you know what i'm
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saying like that's like miles being like
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oh you want to play with melee yeah i'll
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play with melo but if we come one to one
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i want them once bro
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somehow
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ask mello how many times we left
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practice and i say give me the ones bro
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i don't care if you won yesterday bro
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give me the one
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maybe the one
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you
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