IWC's Tiff With Tiffany - Reaction!

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But first and foremost, there's a couple of things that have happened in the past couple of days that, yeah, just need to be talked about

First of all, and I hate to bring this up because I do feel like this is like a nothing burger

It is. But I think something needs to be talked about Tiffany Strat

Not so much Tiffany herself because she's good. She's good people. She does good work

But I think something does need to be said in regards to the internet wrestling community on a whole

Now, for those of you who do not know, Tiffany is pretty much like the new darling, I would say, of SmackDown, of WWE

She's very athletic. She's an incredible heel. And yeah, when you look at her, she is basically just like the most whitest white girl you'll ever see in your life

That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's not. It's not. but yeah that's like

Beverly Hills LA at midnight sort of like kind of shit are you a fan day

I'm intrigued I'm not saying I'll take one night with Tiffy but

I'm intrigued I'll droll of you anyway apparently Tiffany on her social media had

gone ahead and reposted or shared a fan-made edited video concerning a match where she was

going up against, I believe, Naomi and Jade Cargill. And there is some dubbing that happens

to be done to this video. Now, I can't show the whole video because obviously copyrights

but if you see this image, you know what I'm talking about. Right. And unfortunately

there was some dubbing over it where the words and again, forgive me for saying this

You know what? I'll say it. You say it. That's actually better. You say it

I don't get... There was some stuff that was dubbed over by saying

Black B-I-T-C-H. I mean, you can say the word. This is just you two

We're not going to go crazy with saying it. It was like

Black . Yes. Yes, exactly. Yes. So that was said. Even though it had no context to the video being shown

And yes, unfortunately, for some people, they maybe took it in the wrong way

Thinking that it was a real thing. Not because Tiffy said the words or because Tiffy said it in this match

but just because she shared it, she reposted it. You know, by doing so, she's giving like a thumbs up to the whole thing

Now obviously some people were saying oh she should be taken off She shouldn be on SmackDown Kick her out of the King of the Ring Fire her Between you and I does that

seem like a little bit of an oversimplification of what should be done

Does it really feel like it's that big of a deal? Okay

I'm going to say this. She should have kind of monitored or knew what was on there and made sure that it didn't seem racist it wasn't

i know she didn't say it because it was audio dubbed but the intent and the language that was involved in it made it came off racist i'm not saying that

she should get fired, maybe suspended. I'm saying suspension or maybe a warning

See, I'm going probably further than you are. Actually, let me say

backtracking more than you are. I don't see this as that big of a deal

Let me tell you why you don't see it as a big deal

Do tell me. Tell me why. You're looking at the innocent aspect

that it's not her actually saying it, but it's the intent. And

even though she didn't meant it in that format, that's how it came off as

Right. And... Another point. Go ahead. First of all, wrestlers

say stuff to each other, not necessarily on television, all the time. You look at people's

Twitter spaces, you look at their Instagram, you look at anything that is not on

cable access television, and they will go ham on each other back and forth

commenting, retweeting, whatever, just in order to build up tension and rivalry

and storyline. I'm going to count it. Okay. Yes. even though you're basically going toe-to-toe words for words there's certain lines and certain

things you have to be aware of and you have to be mindful as a professional wrestler as a

professional performer even as if you're doing kayfabe you have to be mindful for and that's

racism, political, religion, and all that other stuff. Of course, this is no longer the Vince

era of WWE, but this is the TKO era, meaning UFC. So you don't know what type

of guidelines and stuff that they are allowed and not allowed to say

This is... Let me counter that. If I can counter, WWE has come out with no statement

whatsoever regarding this. Right. And as far as her still being on the card, she is still on the card

to face Jade Cargill this Friday night on SmackDown. No, no, no. So it is playing

into that. You're right. And to be fair, to be fair, to be fair

Jade Cargill is somebody who back in her tenure at AEW would constantly use

the word why do I say it when it sounds like I'm saying something

from South Park but yeah I sound like Mr. Mackey when I do that

but anyway she has been on the record as saying that constantly especially

when she was holding the TBS championship which stood for that show

because she was in control so I mean to use that kind of language and regardless of whether or not the is in there yes I understand the word black While Jane is a person of a particular color

It's not the word. And thus nothing she said was defamatory, inflammatory, or I would say considerably racist considering what we've seen from other people in the past

I don't exactly think this is something that you go ahead and you flame her up for

It's a tweet that shouldn't have been tweeted. If you go on her socials, I don't think it's there anymore

And I feel like the internet wrestling community as a whole maybe

needs to pull it back a bit sometimes. See, that's the thing

Like, it's not the B-I-T-C-H word. It's not the B-I-T-C-H word. No, of course not

But it's when you utilize black. Because it does come off. So just to point out

and again, I'm not trying to be like that Chiefs guy that went ahead and gave the

speech earlier this week at the college. But, just to take things back to a bit, if Jade had said something

or something was recorded in Jade's voice, or something alluded from jade to tippy and the word white were used still would we consider

that inflammatory as well yeah because you're describing a race besides she can't not just be

that or that b-i-t-c-h or because it's not it's not the fact that because she could have said

and it wouldn't have been a big deal but because you said black that's why it's a

big deal. She's going to say stuff. There's certain lines and certain elements that you don't cross

I would say she didn't cross that because she used the basic

word possible in describing. It's not like she went above and beyond

It's not like she did anything like Triple H did to Booker T back in the

day, you know, like using stuff like you people or anything like that

but it's the way the context is it's the way that video voiced that it's not it may not be tiffy

maybe tiffy was focused more the word but when you say black it comes off as racist

especially to women that are african-american that are black it comes off as degrading women

in general, but a specific type of group of women. So when you say

black , it is offensive. Fair, but then I would say does that really warrant

suspension or removal? If anything, that should be all the more reason

for people to tune into SmackDown on Friday and see Jade Cardgill

Molly Whopper. I say yes, but at the same time, we don't know what

the mindset is with this backlash and how much heat it will bring, especially

if it's over the top heat because of the fact that Tiffy said, like she

didn't say it, but she posted it. So that's the issue. It's not

about, oh, we're just going to see her molly whopper. Yeah, but at the same time

once she molly whopper, then what? Is she going to get suspended? Maybe. Is she going to get

because you got to look at it this way. They're trying to protect the brand. And one of your major stars

now they may make her whatchamacallit, one of those wrestlers that get

beaten all the time after what she said. We don't know. Yeah, make her a job, but we don't know

Which I do not see that happening with Tiffany Stratton I know but guess what We in a different era We don know what Triple H feels We don know what going to happen

I'm, you know, the intent was to basically play Kayfay. I get it

But at the same time, yeah. But at the same time, never bring race into it

Yes, Triple H had did some things that was kind of pushing the envelope

on Booker T. There was moments where Booker T said something while being interviewed that were

very questionable, and we were like, oh, dude, back in that era

The thing is, like, race has always kind of played to a certain level

especially in certain rivalries. Now, the thing with Jade Cargill is that you got

Jade, you got Bianca, those two are a tag team, they're the tag team champions

and you also include Naomi. you do have a trifecta of powerful black women

So when you take the most whitest white girl on SmackDown and place her

up against that trifecta, I'm not surprised that they went to this angle. Now, is it something that they should

lean heavily on? Absolutely not. And more than likely, when Jade more than likely beats Tiffy

tomorrow night, on Friday night, I can understand where hey, then there's a vindication

to it. Or it could be Or it could cost Jay Cargo, because think about it

Outside, you know, interference, it could be count out, dirty play. It could be anything

It could be. It could be. And mind you, she has been pretty dominant. So I would imagine if she were to lose, it would probably have to be some nefarious reasons

Because I don't necessarily see Tiffany Stratton, as she is right now, going over on Jay Cargo

Right. Clean. I don't see that. But again, we won't know necessarily, but the fact of the matter is

she's still on the card. And if WWE decides to do anything

that's completely under them and their rules and regulations, that is not necessarily

something that the internet wrestling community has any say in. No, they do. They do. Don't get it twisted. They do

There's been a lot of times where the internet wrestling community have

voiced their opinion and they made changes. catered to... In regards to making sure that

Roman and The Rock didn't take over WrestleMania, but I would say

this is a much, much, much, much, much, much smaller degree than that

As you see it, but... Okay, all right. Because I have to say that, because

at the same time, you're looking at it in one aspect. You got to look at it

in another group of people aspect, where when you yeah it'll be nice to see jay carl whoop her whoop her ass definitely whoop that you can say

that it's okay yeah it'll be nice to see her whoop her ass but at the same time

you gotta also remember how dare you you got a lot of black women that watches wrestling

and hear something like that they'd be like hold up where you going with this first off

don't think you ain't gonna you got people that will look at this and say yo that's kind of racist

understandable i'm not saying you you shouldn't i'm not saying you shouldn't see it as that i'm

just saying in the context of where we're talking in the context of who the people involved

i feel like this is more playing into things than anything else because this is like

bare bones what you could have said in that context is the most simplistic thing that could

have been said yeah but so i i feel like let's see how things play out first

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