Dayveonne & Ryan break down the fallout of Tiffany Stratton's (possibly) racist IG repost.
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, freaks of all ages, and I say that honestly, this is Jabronis United
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Thank you for joining up tonight. I am, of course, the de facto host, Brian the Reelo Dealer Regan
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With me, as always, is Davion Boosie, shining bright like a diamond, as he always does
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I hate that you can do that. I really do. I'm sorry. So Davion's actually feeling pretty good, I guess
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No? Yes? Maybe? Yes, yes, of course I'm feeling great. Wonderful. And of course, we do have a lot to talk about, but some interesting things that we're probably going to get to before we get to the big news concerning Jabronis United and stream punk entertainment as a whole, especially if you happen to be in the New Jersey area this weekend
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But first and foremost, there's a couple of things that have happened in the past couple of days that, yeah, just need to be talked about
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First of all, and I hate to bring this up because I do feel like this is like a nothing burger
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It is. But I think something needs to be talked about Tiffany Strat
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Not so much Tiffany herself because she's good. She's good people. She does good work
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But I think something does need to be said in regards to the internet wrestling community on a whole
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Now, for those of you who do not know, Tiffany is pretty much like the new darling, I would say, of SmackDown, of WWE
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She's very athletic. She's an incredible heel. And yeah, when you look at her, she is basically just like the most whitest white girl you'll ever see in your life
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That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's not. It's not. but yeah that's like
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Beverly Hills LA at midnight sort of like kind of shit are you a fan day
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I'm intrigued I'm not saying I'll take one night with Tiffy but
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I'm intrigued I'll droll of you anyway apparently Tiffany on her social media had
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gone ahead and reposted or shared a fan-made edited video concerning a match where she was
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going up against, I believe, Naomi and Jade Cargill. And there is some dubbing that happens
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to be done to this video. Now, I can't show the whole video because obviously copyrights
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but if you see this image, you know what I'm talking about. Right. And unfortunately
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there was some dubbing over it where the words and again, forgive me for saying this
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You know what? I'll say it. You say it. That's actually better. You say it
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I don't get... There was some stuff that was dubbed over by saying
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Black B-I-T-C-H. I mean, you can say the word. This is just you two
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We're not going to go crazy with saying it. It was like
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Black . Yes. Yes, exactly. Yes. So that was said. Even though it had no context to the video being shown
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And yes, unfortunately, for some people, they maybe took it in the wrong way
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Thinking that it was a real thing. Not because Tiffy said the words or because Tiffy said it in this match
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but just because she shared it, she reposted it. You know, by doing so, she's giving like a thumbs up to the whole thing
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Now obviously some people were saying oh she should be taken off She shouldn be on SmackDown Kick her out of the King of the Ring Fire her Between you and I does that
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seem like a little bit of an oversimplification of what should be done
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Does it really feel like it's that big of a deal? Okay
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I'm going to say this. She should have kind of monitored or knew what was on there and made sure that it didn't seem racist it wasn't
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i know she didn't say it because it was audio dubbed but the intent and the language that was involved in it made it came off racist i'm not saying that
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she should get fired, maybe suspended. I'm saying suspension or maybe a warning
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See, I'm going probably further than you are. Actually, let me say
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backtracking more than you are. I don't see this as that big of a deal
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Let me tell you why you don't see it as a big deal
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Do tell me. Tell me why. You're looking at the innocent aspect
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that it's not her actually saying it, but it's the intent. And
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even though she didn't meant it in that format, that's how it came off as
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Right. And... Another point. Go ahead. First of all, wrestlers
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say stuff to each other, not necessarily on television, all the time. You look at people's
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Twitter spaces, you look at their Instagram, you look at anything that is not on
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cable access television, and they will go ham on each other back and forth
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commenting, retweeting, whatever, just in order to build up tension and rivalry
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and storyline. I'm going to count it. Okay. Yes. even though you're basically going toe-to-toe words for words there's certain lines and certain
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things you have to be aware of and you have to be mindful as a professional wrestler as a
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professional performer even as if you're doing kayfabe you have to be mindful for and that's
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racism, political, religion, and all that other stuff. Of course, this is no longer the Vince
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era of WWE, but this is the TKO era, meaning UFC. So you don't know what type
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of guidelines and stuff that they are allowed and not allowed to say
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This is... Let me counter that. If I can counter, WWE has come out with no statement
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whatsoever regarding this. Right. And as far as her still being on the card, she is still on the card
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to face Jade Cargill this Friday night on SmackDown. No, no, no. So it is playing
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into that. You're right. And to be fair, to be fair, to be fair
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Jade Cargill is somebody who back in her tenure at AEW would constantly use
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the word why do I say it when it sounds like I'm saying something
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from South Park but yeah I sound like Mr. Mackey when I do that
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but anyway she has been on the record as saying that constantly especially
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when she was holding the TBS championship which stood for that show
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because she was in control so I mean to use that kind of language and regardless of whether or not the is in there yes I understand the word black While Jane is a person of a particular color
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It's not the word. And thus nothing she said was defamatory, inflammatory, or I would say considerably racist considering what we've seen from other people in the past
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I don't exactly think this is something that you go ahead and you flame her up for
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It's a tweet that shouldn't have been tweeted. If you go on her socials, I don't think it's there anymore
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And I feel like the internet wrestling community as a whole maybe
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needs to pull it back a bit sometimes. See, that's the thing
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Like, it's not the B-I-T-C-H word. It's not the B-I-T-C-H word. No, of course not
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But it's when you utilize black. Because it does come off. So just to point out
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and again, I'm not trying to be like that Chiefs guy that went ahead and gave the
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speech earlier this week at the college. But, just to take things back to a bit, if Jade had said something
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or something was recorded in Jade's voice, or something alluded from jade to tippy and the word white were used still would we consider
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that inflammatory as well yeah because you're describing a race besides she can't not just be
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that or that b-i-t-c-h or because it's not it's not the fact that because she could have said
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and it wouldn't have been a big deal but because you said black that's why it's a
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big deal. She's going to say stuff. There's certain lines and certain elements that you don't cross
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I would say she didn't cross that because she used the basic
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word possible in describing. It's not like she went above and beyond
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It's not like she did anything like Triple H did to Booker T back in the
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day, you know, like using stuff like you people or anything like that
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but it's the way the context is it's the way that video voiced that it's not it may not be tiffy
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maybe tiffy was focused more the word but when you say black it comes off as racist
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especially to women that are african-american that are black it comes off as degrading women
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in general, but a specific type of group of women. So when you say
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black , it is offensive. Fair, but then I would say does that really warrant
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suspension or removal? If anything, that should be all the more reason
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for people to tune into SmackDown on Friday and see Jade Cardgill
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Molly Whopper. I say yes, but at the same time, we don't know what
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the mindset is with this backlash and how much heat it will bring, especially
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if it's over the top heat because of the fact that Tiffy said, like she
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didn't say it, but she posted it. So that's the issue. It's not
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about, oh, we're just going to see her molly whopper. Yeah, but at the same time
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once she molly whopper, then what? Is she going to get suspended? Maybe. Is she going to get
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because you got to look at it this way. They're trying to protect the brand. And one of your major stars
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now they may make her whatchamacallit, one of those wrestlers that get
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beaten all the time after what she said. We don't know. Yeah, make her a job, but we don't know
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Which I do not see that happening with Tiffany Stratton I know but guess what We in a different era We don know what Triple H feels We don know what going to happen
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I'm, you know, the intent was to basically play Kayfay. I get it
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But at the same time, yeah. But at the same time, never bring race into it
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Yes, Triple H had did some things that was kind of pushing the envelope
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on Booker T. There was moments where Booker T said something while being interviewed that were
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very questionable, and we were like, oh, dude, back in that era
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The thing is, like, race has always kind of played to a certain level
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especially in certain rivalries. Now, the thing with Jade Cargill is that you got
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Jade, you got Bianca, those two are a tag team, they're the tag team champions
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and you also include Naomi. you do have a trifecta of powerful black women
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So when you take the most whitest white girl on SmackDown and place her
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up against that trifecta, I'm not surprised that they went to this angle. Now, is it something that they should
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lean heavily on? Absolutely not. And more than likely, when Jade more than likely beats Tiffy
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tomorrow night, on Friday night, I can understand where hey, then there's a vindication
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to it. Or it could be Or it could cost Jay Cargo, because think about it
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Outside, you know, interference, it could be count out, dirty play. It could be anything
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It could be. It could be. And mind you, she has been pretty dominant. So I would imagine if she were to lose, it would probably have to be some nefarious reasons
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Because I don't necessarily see Tiffany Stratton, as she is right now, going over on Jay Cargo
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Right. Clean. I don't see that. But again, we won't know necessarily, but the fact of the matter is
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she's still on the card. And if WWE decides to do anything
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that's completely under them and their rules and regulations, that is not necessarily
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something that the internet wrestling community has any say in. No, they do. They do. Don't get it twisted. They do
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There's been a lot of times where the internet wrestling community have
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voiced their opinion and they made changes. catered to... In regards to making sure that
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Roman and The Rock didn't take over WrestleMania, but I would say
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this is a much, much, much, much, much, much smaller degree than that
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As you see it, but... Okay, all right. Because I have to say that, because
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at the same time, you're looking at it in one aspect. You got to look at it
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in another group of people aspect, where when you yeah it'll be nice to see jay carl whoop her whoop her ass definitely whoop that you can say
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that it's okay yeah it'll be nice to see her whoop her ass but at the same time
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you gotta also remember how dare you you got a lot of black women that watches wrestling
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and hear something like that they'd be like hold up where you going with this first off
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don't think you ain't gonna you got people that will look at this and say yo that's kind of racist
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understandable i'm not saying you you shouldn't i'm not saying you shouldn't see it as that i'm
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just saying in the context of where we're talking in the context of who the people involved
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i feel like this is more playing into things than anything else because this is like
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bare bones what you could have said in that context is the most simplistic thing that could
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have been said yeah but so i i feel like let's see how things play out first
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it's only worth it if you work for it it's only worth it if you work for it
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i won't stop till they hear me now i won't stop till i wear the crown
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