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and again that I think that is is kind
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of the beauty of of insurance with small
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businesses when you're really limited
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Insurance it becomes even more important
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I'm Sean hessinger and this is small Biz
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in 15. the show where we bring you small
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business news and tips to make your
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small business better today Alan she ran
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vice president of product and design at
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next Insurance explains what kinds of
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insurance your business might need and
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why okay Elon can you tell us a little
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bit about yourself and and next
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insurance and what you guys do sure and
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so I've been with next for about a year
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and a half now I lead all product
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development and our ux designers at next
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and next is a company that was founded
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around 2016 and with a mission to how
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small businesses Thrive and by providing
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them really a One-Stop shop for the
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insurance needs and where our technology
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led a full stack insurance provider so
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we're really taking on the entire value
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chain and that includes writing the
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policies we are the carrier handling
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claims pricing servicing underwriting
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everything and really focusing around
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technology and specifically solving
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small businesses need
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well that brings up an interesting point
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that I wanted to mention first which is
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really small businesses
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um what what's the difference between
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their needs and and larger businesses
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that that I mean this sounds like a real
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Niche so what is the difference
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um so I would say the difference is
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probably where the biggest difference is
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where they are in their life cycle and
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so many of our customers are really
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they're new in business this is maybe
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the first time that this business owner
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is starting a business and they they
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really they're unfamiliar with with
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their needs and so I would say that's
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kind of one of the problems they're
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facing and that we want to solve for
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them is to make it as easy as simple for
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them and the second thing is usually
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and more specific and smaller so for
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example they might they're more likely
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to have one location or they're more
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likely to have one car or just a few
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employees so really the coverages that
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are right for them are very different
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than a larger chain for example
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well I mean I know this from from
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starting my own small business and I'm
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sure a lot of people know this uh from
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starting small businesses out there you
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start a small business all the things
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you're concerned about is you know
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bringing in Revenue uh being able to pay
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your employees and all this other stuff
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and probably the last thing on your mind
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is insurance and you probably also think
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to yourself well I I I I I don't know
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what kind of insurance I need at this
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point why does a really small business
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need insurance I mean what what kinds of
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and what kinds of insurance do they need
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right a great question
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um so maybe I'll start with the kind of
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insurance and that kind of uh well
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naturally lead into why a small business
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would want something like that or need
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it and so there are a few different
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types of business insurance the most
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common one is general liability
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sometimes also called business liability
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and that protects businesses from
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whether they cause damage to a
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third-party property or for example
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there's bodily injury in their own
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so for example if you're a plumber and
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you go to your client's house and you
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accidentally hit their window with the
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ladder and things like that that will
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protect you right and so that's one that
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is very common it also covers things
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like if you're a restaurant owner and
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you sell liquor than what you would want
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want is a general liability that has a
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liquor coverage so if you for example
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um sell liquor to someone that later
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goes on and drives drunk and has an
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that will protect you in case of a
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lawsuit against you so that's gender
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reliability for example another very
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popular one is worker compensation and
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that protects your employees from if
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they get injured so workers compensation
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will pay you or cover any health care
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costs but also damages to the struggle
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that you're having to continue to work
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so lost wages in most cases that is
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required by law so an employer must have
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workers compensation if they have
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so really there's a mix of the law that
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you need to have that and two is
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protecting yourself and protecting your
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business but those were two examples of
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kind of the more common Insurance types
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for small businesses so when you talk
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about liability insurance and why we
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need it you mentioned two specific
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examples but let's let's think of a
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um I I don't know can you think of some
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other let's let's talk about the breadth
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of liability insurance because there's
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some things that probably people aren't
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thinking of all right that that that
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liability insurance could cover right
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and so we talked a little bit about
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business liability and I I would say
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that and you can categorize businesses
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in many ways but one common way is
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whether they have a physical location or
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is it you know Joe the plumber going to
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someone's house and fixing stuff and
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general liability will cover different
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things there so again if you're in a
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restaurant we talked about liquor but
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another thing that general liability
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could cover is if one of your customers
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and gets injured so that that will will
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help cover that I guess general
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liability is very popular because it is
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so Broad and it covers you for these
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really different things like another
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person's property and damage and losses
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but yeah also if one of your customers
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gets hurt so that will cover that
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there's another type of liability that I
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didn't mention which is professional
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and professional ability is very popular
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or very in demand in the more
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Professional Services so like tax tax
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accountants and and lawyers and things
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and that covers you from mistakes that
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maybe you maybe you had a in your
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profession so for example if my account
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that messes up with taxes and I get a
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if I decide to sue them or anything like
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that then they would be covered if they
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have professional liability
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and so that's another type of liability
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that really depends on the small
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business type like you said and they're
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like maybe a thousand different
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categories of small businesses you said
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if you need any if you have employees
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you need workers compensation right um
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or or are there aspects of that that
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businesses might not especially small
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ones might not think about yeah so as I
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mentioned it can cover many things
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obviously the most trivial and the one
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that jumps to mind the most businesses
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when you ask them what do they think
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work workers compensation covers there's
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but it also covers lost wages and
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survivor benefits and permanent injuries
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and employee liability and things like
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that and so if let's say you are on a
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construction site and one of your
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workers hits their foot because a beam
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that's something that happens a lot they
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have some sort of a injury to their leg
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with that insurance and they would be
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covered for the last wages because of
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and with small businesses we often know
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that they don't have a ton of cash lying
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around right so this really can save a
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business and besides that as I mentioned
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earlier it's really important for
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businesses to know that workers
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compensation in almost all states is
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required by the law I also noticed on
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your website the business owner's policy
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what is that and and and and and who who
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who needs it or benefits from it what
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does it do yeah so business owner policy
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or we sometimes call it bot that's kind
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of the the name of the industry it's
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basically two insurances that are
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bundled into one it is the general
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liability that we talked about but it
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also has commercial property insurance
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commercial property covers your property
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but not only the property it covers
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what's inside it and I think many
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businesses don't realize that
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and they think that because they're
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renting a place that commercial property
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but again let's go back to the
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all that equipment inside your kitchen
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that is often hundreds of thousands of
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dollars that is covered by commercial
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property so if you have a fire in the
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kitchen or things like that or there's
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some weather event and all your tables
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or whatever are kind of destroyed this
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and again that I think that is is kind
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of the beauty of of insurance with small
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businesses when you're really limited
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Insurance it becomes even more important
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let me ask you about another one that
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seems on the face of it a little more
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specific which is which is um
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you know Commercial Auto policies
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what what kinds of businesses need this
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is it broader than people might and
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yes and so commercial and auto any
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business that drives or has either a
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driver or even if the business owner is
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driving a car as part of their business
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Commercial Auto is the insurance that
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they would need it is actually in many
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states required Again by the state by
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and things that would be covered are
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obviously accidents to you or your
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um you know bodily injuries but also to
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your auto itself and so I would say the
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most common businesses that we see
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purchase these are are contractors
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plumbers Realtors you know the
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businesses that you would imagine drive
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around and and are less stationary we
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also see that a lot with the delivery so
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food delivery is Big especially since
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covid right and we get a lot of things
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delivered to our house so we see that
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also of course uptick during these times
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there are two other insurances that are
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pretty popular one is umbrella that
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actually today next we announced that
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we're launching umbrella or excess
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liability in 41 States
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and what general or sorry what umbrella
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is or excess liability it basically sits
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on top of your general liability but
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extends the coverage it limits to 1
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million or two million dollars and so
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that's something that we see many
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businesses also buy and usually they
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will buy that because there's a third
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party that is asking them to buy it
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so maybe I'm a subcontractor working for
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a general contractor and they're going
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to ask me to do that or I'm leasing a
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space or whatever and the real or the
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real estate agent is asking me to show a
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proof of insurance for that so there's
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some cases for for umbrella access
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liability and the other one is tools and
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equipment which is sometimes called
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but this is also a very popular one for
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the Home Services or construction
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classes and this insurance what it
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you're driving around with your truck
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and there's a lot of expensive equipment
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that will cover the equipment
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and many businesses we see purchase that
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when you know electricians and plumbers
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and those categories that's really a I
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would say a basic insurance for them to
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have so one thing that's uh I would say
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pretty special about the small business
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insurance industry in the US it's very
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fragmented there is no clear leader
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and next is that we see that as a really
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a good signal that there is no one yet
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that has solved this in a really
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complete and best way and we think that
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we have the opportunity to go and solve
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that problem for small businesses and we
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want to do that with being obsessed and
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really focused on small businesses and
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solving their problem with technology
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so I can provide some examples of how we
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we can split it just in an easy way to
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understand it is kind of the purchasing
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experience and then post purchase so we
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use a lot of AI and machine learning
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capabilities and access to Digital Data
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sources in order to provide a really
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good experience and the purchasing
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experience and to provide an accurate
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we really want a tailored Insurance
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recommendation for the business so
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they're not underinsured but also not
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over insured and just spending a lot of
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money on something they don't really
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need right and so we do that again with
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third third party data sources and AI
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and what that also lets us do is sell
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insurance instantly so what we see in
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the industry is almost all the policies
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that are purchased go through an agent
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because we are a technology-led company
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in digital experience we have three
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channels we have agent channel that
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we're investing a lot in and we view our
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review agents also as our customers
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but we also have our direct Channel
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which is basically you sitting in your
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living living room whenever is
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comfortable for you and kind of checking
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out when Insurance do I need and you can
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buy it on the spot without talking to
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anybody and in a minute you would be
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insured and the third one
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um isn't what we call embedded insurance
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so we partner with a lot of the SAS
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products that small businesses run their
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business on whether it's with QuickBooks
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or Gusto or whatever and because we are
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and underwriter and carrier we can
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basically partner with this technology
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products and and get a lot of
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information in sync from them so for
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example let's say you have workers
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compensation on one of these platforms
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as a small business you are required to
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update your insurance about any changes
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in employees and employees salaries and
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what they do but because we are
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integrated with the software that you
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we can do that automatically for you and
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save time well that's it for another
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episode of small business 15. thanks
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again to Elan she ran of next insurance
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