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PhilTimes TALKS | Converting Tourist Visa Into Another Visa Type while in Australia
Jan 14, 2024
Looking to convert your tourist visa into another visa while in Australia?
In this maiden PhilTimes TALKS series, Raine Cabral Laysico interviews two Filipino-Australian Registered Migration Agents.
Johanna Bertumen Nonato of BridgeAus and Alice Nicolas of Finemarks, registered migration agents, share their insights and provide general information for Filipinos who want to come to Australia.
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Hi, everyone. This is Jen Krale sa from the Philippine Times and we are here with Phil Times talks
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So tonight I'll be joined with two wonderful and inspirational ladies who also happen to be
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really, really awesome migration agents. So here are Johanna and Alice and we would be talking about uh
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visas uh as well as uh visa conversions for Philippine passport holders
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So first off, uh ladies, I'll get you to introduce yourselves. Um Johanna Far away
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Hi, I'm Johanna Berto Menon, ao. I'm a registered migration agent from Bridge Os migration consultancy and also work as a solicitor at dragon legal
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services. Ok. And Alice, hi, everyone. My name is Alice Nicholas. I have been a registered
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migration agent for the past 14 years with uh fine Mars Australia
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Amazing. And um for today's session, I just also wanted to let everyone know now this
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is just general information for so obviously, uh each uh case or each individual will need to be assessed
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on case to case basis. However, what we're doing tonight is just offering um free general information on certain
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things as both. Uh Johanna and Alice have uh quite an experience already in the industry
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And uh if we want sort of direct and personalized help, I'll make sure to tag the detail details um on
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underneath the video is part of the caption so that you would speak directly to them about your own personal circumstances
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All right. So is that clear? So I thought let's go go in
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So eco um Johanna, what visas do you normally do? So manga client small right now
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um Usually we do the employer sponsored visas. So Ya Maram TSS 482 ens 186 and also permanent residency
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under the general skilled migration stream and my student visa and visitor visa
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Those are the other ones. Um Basically all visas except the refugee or the protection visas
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OK. And Alice um same here. Um Kaska mini Johanna, mostly Kisa Filipinos
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Ola Maung Protection Visas, Liba. So um partner visa carer, visa, Yen Maga Una Carer
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visa student visa, uh tourist, visa, skilled migration, um Mama 482 citizenship
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application. OK. So tag um there's obviously a wide variety of visas that Filipinos can apply
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for. Um But mostly, and one of the things that we've been getting in Philippine Times as well is that uh mega Panon
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regarding I guess visa conversion, so specifically uh tourist visa. So if uh for example
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me own Filipino nationals who come to Melbourne Tapas, they, they want to stay
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Uh but um you know, for maybe two years or one year
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So an baum generally, what would you look for first if a prospective client will come to you
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Uh Johanna, the first thing that I'd have to look at is their visa grant zap in Muna
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Uh My visa condition Bana 8503, which is no further stay because if they have that
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they cannot apply for another visa while in Australia. So that's one K and visa expiration
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my three months maximum stay. So I mona to apply and then the next one to look at is an objective
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The Lao Ma Arato Magpie my Filia Bar. And that's when I can give the advice based on their profile
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OK. And Kuna Man Alice, if you had someone, Leba Kate Nanga Taos Nuna Seo
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um seeking an seeking advice on potentially staying longer for the Kate Nela in in the consultation
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Um What would you normally aside from Sabina? And they don't have a 8503 further stay and then normally on next steps for
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you. Um Next step cor really is to ask for their uh no updated CV K say in A in the explore N and Baum
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possibilities. La Puede Casse. Um my family member Nama Sou in Car Liba wedding student
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visa for um suitable Dusa applicant. So, Maram possibility. So
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uh Nips don't discuss your options, Puede um I Claro hy
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8503 like Hali Megu Nadu may 8 503. So Pedi Iwa for very exceptional circumstances
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Um compassionate and um exceptional like MKV Meduna Magua uh may 8 503
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So in a way the as Aosa Department and it was granted so that applied
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I mean subclass 870 E A young parent visa, a temporary for three years
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Marian five years. Ok. So, oh, so Tang in cases like these
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so super important Talaga to seek proper advice from registered migration agents and lawyers
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So from what I hear Meron Governing body, Yung Omara who conducts regular checks
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So how often uh do they do that in your businesses? Uh Johanna um so we have to
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apply for our license, our registration every year. So they look at our CPD S the training BGA by 10 points
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Kenyan Taos Patti Banko na T ta client account B BA
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And the only time we can use that for operations is when we finish our job bag Aamina statement of services
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So Yang Kang Cheka en Chambre Kagan glare on at um Talaga Amara PAG manga complaints
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OK. And obviously the same would apply to you then Alice Deba
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So Hindi, Hindi, Alam Karami because it's a social media Nissan. Um You don't need an agent
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per me. Johanna knows this. Uh me coming legend Latina Tato Kang requirement
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the male subscription and legend, young legend A Gamin Nama case officers
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n Department of um home Affairs. Me having access on so young policy Ma Po Nakita Amen
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how it operates? Kaya Yung beated Alibaba student visa young uh policies
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Don Alam Nain. Another thing to add to that story is um code of conduct
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Me coming code of conduct. So di about how we conduct ourselves with our clients
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It Ya una una when we get you as a client mea agreement
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my client agreement amens I know
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that's wrong. Um P migration agent K business in a registration number
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Now in business we just cannot, you know paras al
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always good actually. So um I number one T na na when uh you ask someone for
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assistance or migration assistance, then ask for the registration number. So that way they
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they know they're legit and up to date Y Kelang information Bini Bigga
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Ino Nosaka Babayan, Puna. All right. So let's move on a little bit now into the conversion
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So my follow up question for here. Now, for example, uh let's say in a gang rotary convention
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Casina and early this year and as a con coming here as a tourist visa
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Sin Nin and they don't have any 8503 so long further stay and then they come to you and say
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I like Melbourne. Um I, I would love to live here temporarily and maybe I
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I want to study. So, Johanna, what would be? And you've mentioned a couple of things
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but how would you, I guess um ensure that you are following the code of conduct and providing the right uh migration
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assistance to that client Yeah, I always start with their objectives now
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So Angus Tomo Moga aca or Mata Trabajo. And from there, you know Aan Ales
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we look at the CV in Porte una updated yi vinil. So we see San Car uh Sanna not a skills list spa by
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possibility spa. So it's we, we walk them through different kinds of visa um visas based on their eligible and based on
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their um objective. So con Convention Atari Age Dia con
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ato E 4455 P Dama area. So Maram and Da da and Visa
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uh we have to check Muna sag and objectives. OK. So um Alice Mega Times in Ae
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OK. At first non client. Now I just want to study task and after six months as a oh actually
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I want to stay in a uh permanently and uh permanent visa pathway
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Has that been the case to Mala 52
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years old NASA Sabe Guang Tasso A Naan very limited N PR pathway
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mo ped um bagging subclass 482. You work sponsorship per Yang Nang known Kalanga
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PR pathway, very, very limited um in except NAA Oar Talaga um and an MP
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path Casa Nas Ta letter of advice to Mila Joanna Casina Ana Sina Bonang
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Very clear, Tao Yan old uh Punto SASA is
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uh limited name PR pathway more. I'd rather I would advise you you Samara an invest Kungus Soo in the future or ma
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uh to Miras Australia, Malang Amo and then eventually parent visa halal
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I see. Uh TGA Pine. It's real, Ia Filipino, Hayato, Guma Gas and thousands of dollars
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Nanjo Australia Casse per presidency. And um and good thing um
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Kupang Visa sila to visa, student, visa, whatever. And a partner, visa
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silla lata and nurses. And it helped the, it's helping the economy
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Lima Maisi Namanga in Fair. Yes. OK. And
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I guess uh was there a time for you guys that uh you had to say no to a client um for one reason
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or another, Hindi and Kuna Clee is Kapaa Una interview Palang and manga and
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documents. Yeah. So I I tell them that, you know, you cannot falsify documents
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Kari, for example, my my partner Visa Ma ma pun in the so
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and I immediately tell them because of Ka na Na that we mislead
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we should not put that forward. So we tell them right away that you know uh Ao uh Kan
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I cannot, you know, represent you. OK. E A um Garen same Den Kasar pagan pap
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Tulu and Musila Indian, Ping Para Maak and Tika um me Maala goed naa Facebook or I I highly recommend Ali Peru
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Bahi Pian Nissan. OK. Bata Peru has a Union Gold Kasica and Immigration Kasica
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the grantline visa Moala manila incorrect information or fake documents. More Nusa they can strip of that visa ban
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That's correct. Yeah
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I know I had to, you know madam Marites madam N us but at the same time
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I think for me, a man and I'll share a little bit this
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I actually came to Australia first as an exchange student that was uh from Miriam
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That was my dad died and I end up, ended up converting into uh international student visa
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So I think it's quite close to my heart when people ask na
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oh, you know, how, how did you end up here? Or even when I see other people can have a doin Tatana Philippine Times on
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you know, is that legal Puras Blain student, Para Bi Man? It's the Australian government's decision
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the b to allow if you comply with the requirements and you meet the requirements
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I don't think there should be any issue. Uh To be honest
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that's my speaking from personal experience and what you said then Johanna
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now what if there's someone who's a marites now about this and that? No, everyone has their own migration journey
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And uh for Mita Laga, we're all migrants here. The only one who Na Hindi migrants are the Aboriginal Australians
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That's, that's no end of come, come, come at me. That's the reality
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Like everyone else, even the Aussies themselves are uh you know, are our visitors here
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Uh So I think for us um a little bit more understanding
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Uh personally I say mejo for me, it's close to home because I
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I was also an international student and then ended up working being on a 485 Visa before Aama HDL subclass 500
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there was like 572555 2005. Ok. So and don't come for me now
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but no, it was a very different Iapa HIIPA Department of Home Affairs
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HIIPA ii.gov dot A U and madame. So I just wanted to um also share that and also thank you so much ladies for really
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providing honest and genuine and accurate information. So before we end, I just also wanted to ask um Johanna any
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final words and obviously followed by Alice, I I guess you know um when you need advice
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well, Masha Sung Nata or Nadina Manila, you have my authority to say those things
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So among a migration agent, Natan Usao or manga immigration lawyers and make sure you check them out for Samara
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a lawyer dunk is a state is a VVLSB legal services board to check me
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You can always search the name just to make sure. Now tag registered Chila registered by code of conduct lapio protect
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So you know a final words, OK. And Alice, before you say your final words
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my question actually for you both um Anu Yanga Hindi registered migration agent
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Nana BBg, a advices of Facebook and even actually running their own businesses and saying free information session
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I know Masao Alika Una OK. Experiences Kangana Pka
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us, Kayo Kan Nisan KSE um social media, Sabi Ere go au Marani
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male. Um and the manila is to help Kalila documents Magata. Also Magua plan always
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asks for the registration number. Yeah, I'm actually a more question is you Manana Suu put information sessions and new businesses
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from like lately in an Aquita n then and saying uh uh OK
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we can help you come to Australia Tapo Wang register, Wang Papa gang registration number
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Johanna. Yeah, you know Mara I'm problem is Marrama Maga registered
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right? A man well as a jurisdiction so it's really hard to police them
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Sore Machado Manare, right? So it's really about the people ICAO MACCA and
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make sure no Mali and Chala in Cain and KACA from face to face and
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and usually is a a my partner, a home lawyer, my partner
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a home migration agent, a un lawyer, a chao migration agent. You have to check them out and they have to be the one giving
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you advice in the Con La Ta in the they told my license number Casina go in
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you know a home partner, Kare, an education agency that Haila advice
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That was Nando Io Pero Sega advice. They don't even give me the client
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So it's, it's really sad and I think it's a no it generation with social media
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I think we should fact check. I think that's the the main thing
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And anyway, OK. Alice, your last words was big. Las last is um Haya
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Anna Hale Aura Santa to actual Nang Balik Nadi Australia on a tourist visa partner
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Di Per Ba ba uh ad 8503 P partner VSA eligible
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man pagan legit Naan and genuine new relationship. So violation on the uh and is a gang advise
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Really is Kayaan a migration agent you're paying for the knowledge and experience
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Yung Nan is a Department of Home Affairs uh Information. Yung Kan is a Facebook social media maari
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but you can spend the whole day searching for answer, Perra Panay Jose and Damita information
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Whereas Punta Hanna registered migration agent U Anam, the discuss cao and then you discuss go and put in your uh visa
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pathway. OK? My IMing Salama Johanna and Alice for your time today
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And once again, uh yes. Uh sorry, Johanna and Alice go Huna
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Um Well, no, I have a goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. So before we end the show
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I just really want to say thank you so much to both of you
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And once again, all the information that we provided are just general advice
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So if you do want to speak to Johanna or Alice uh together or separately
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make sure to contact them on the links below. And once again
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thank you for joining me and uh the ladies for fill time stops, but I'm in Salamat
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