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DEEP EARTH HORRORS! From Vietnam to Appalachia: UNDERGROUND ANOMALIES & REPTILIAN ENCOUNTERS
Aug 25, 2025
For years, I’ve collected extraordinary eyewitness reports from across the globe, but few accounts compare to the chilling, underground encounters you’ll hear tonight. From the jungles of Vietnam to the caverns of Missouri, from the deserts of Arizona to the mountains of Austria, these stories reveal a hidden world beneath our feet—one inhabited by beings and phenomena that defy explanation. These are not isolated tales; they are threads in a larger tapestry of mystery, secrecy, and fear.
What you’re about to hear are testimonies from veterans, geologists, explorers, and everyday people who stumbled into situations they could neither explain nor forget. These are seasoned, credible individuals who risked their reputations to come forward. Some of their accounts speak of reptilian humanoids and anomalous machinery, others of bizarre lights, Bigfoot captivity, and even possible government involvement in keeping these mysteries hidden from the public eye.
As investigators and seekers of truth, we must weigh each story with respect while also considering the bigger picture. Are these fragments of a larger subterranean reality—one that has remained just out of reach? Could these experiences point toward an underground presence that has been with us for longer than we realize? Tonight, I invite you to journey with me into the shadows below the surface, to confront the possibility that we are not alone—not above ground, nor beneath it.
This is one of the most harrowing collections of underground anomalous activity ever compiled on Phantoms & Monsters Radio. Prepare yourself for unsettling revelations, strange connections, and the unfiltered voices of those who have walked into the unknown—and survived to tell their stories.
👤 I'm Lon Strickler, creator of Phantoms & Monsters, and I’ve been a paranormal researcher and intuitive investigator for over 45 years. My work has been featured on Ancient Aliens, Paranormal Witness, Monsters and Mysteries in America, and Unsolved Mysteries, as well as numerous radio appearances on Coast to Coast AM and more.
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Hey folks, good evening and welcome to Phantoms of Monsters Radio, where the
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veil between the known and the unknown
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veil between the known and the unknown is lifted one story at a time. I welcome
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is lifted one story at a time. I welcome
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is lifted one story at a time. I welcome you and all our listeners, including
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you and all our listeners, including
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you and all our listeners, including first- timerrs in in chat. Um, I hope
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first- timerrs in in chat. Um, I hope
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first- timerrs in in chat. Um, I hope you find tonight's subject and reports
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you find tonight's subject and reports
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you find tonight's subject and reports interesting. Now, I I will say some of
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interesting. Now, I I will say some of
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interesting. Now, I I will say some of the accounts I'm going to talk about
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the accounts I'm going to talk about
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the accounts I'm going to talk about tonight, I have presented before. Um,
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tonight, I have presented before. Um,
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tonight, I have presented before. Um, but for some reason the past couple
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but for some reason the past couple
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but for some reason the past couple weeks there's been a an inundation of
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weeks there's been a an inundation of
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weeks there's been a an inundation of request for underground
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request for underground
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request for underground uh horrors or uh incidents of people
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uh horrors or uh incidents of people
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uh horrors or uh incidents of people seeing things under the ground or in
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seeing things under the ground or in
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seeing things under the ground or in caves and such. So I decided to go ahead
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caves and such. So I decided to go ahead
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caves and such. So I decided to go ahead and do it. But just warning you some of
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and do it. But just warning you some of
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and do it. But just warning you some of these I have talked about in the past.
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these I have talked about in the past.
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these I have talked about in the past. Now, for years, I've collected
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Now, for years, I've collected
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Now, for years, I've collected extraordinary eyewitness reports from
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extraordinary eyewitness reports from
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extraordinary eyewitness reports from across the globe. But few accounts
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across the globe. But few accounts
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across the globe. But few accounts compare to the chilling underground
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compare to the chilling underground
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compare to the chilling underground encounters you'll hear tonight. Now,
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encounters you'll hear tonight. Now,
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encounters you'll hear tonight. Now, from the jungles of Vietnam to the
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from the jungles of Vietnam to the
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from the jungles of Vietnam to the caverns of Missouri,
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caverns of Missouri,
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caverns of Missouri, from the deserts of Arizona to the
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from the deserts of Arizona to the
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from the deserts of Arizona to the mountains of a Austria, these stories
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mountains of a Austria, these stories
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mountains of a Austria, these stories reveal a hidden world beneath our feet,
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reveal a hidden world beneath our feet,
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reveal a hidden world beneath our feet, one inhabited by beings and phenomena
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one inhabited by beings and phenomena
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one inhabited by beings and phenomena that defy explanation.
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that defy explanation.
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that defy explanation. Now, these are not isolated tales. They
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Now, these are not isolated tales. They
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Now, these are not isolated tales. They are threads to a larger tapestry of
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are threads to a larger tapestry of
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are threads to a larger tapestry of mystery, secrecy, and fear.
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mystery, secrecy, and fear.
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mystery, secrecy, and fear. What you're about to hear are
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What you're about to hear are
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What you're about to hear are testimonies from veterans, geologists,
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testimonies from veterans, geologists,
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testimonies from veterans, geologists, explorers, and everyday people who
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explorers, and everyday people who
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explorers, and everyday people who stumbled into situations they can
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stumbled into situations they can
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stumbled into situations they can neither explain nor forget.
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neither explain nor forget.
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neither explain nor forget. These are seasoned, credible individuals
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These are seasoned, credible individuals
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These are seasoned, credible individuals who risk their reputations to come
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who risk their reputations to come
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who risk their reputations to come forward. Now, some of their accounts
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forward. Now, some of their accounts
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forward. Now, some of their accounts speak of reptilian humanoids and
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speak of reptilian humanoids and
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speak of reptilian humanoids and anomalous machinery, others of bizarre
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anomalous machinery, others of bizarre
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anomalous machinery, others of bizarre lights, Bigfoot captivity, and even
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lights, Bigfoot captivity, and even
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lights, Bigfoot captivity, and even possible government involvement in
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possible government involvement in
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possible government involvement in keeping these mysteries hidden from the
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keeping these mysteries hidden from the
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keeping these mysteries hidden from the public eye.
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public eye.
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public eye. As investigators and seekers of truth,
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As investigators and seekers of truth,
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As investigators and seekers of truth, we must weigh each story with respect
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we must weigh each story with respect
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we must weigh each story with respect while also considering the bigger
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while also considering the bigger
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while also considering the bigger picture.
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picture.
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picture. Are these fragments a larger
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Are these fragments a larger
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Are these fragments a larger subterranean reality, one that has
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subterranean reality, one that has
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subterranean reality, one that has remained just out of reach? Could these
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remained just out of reach? Could these
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remained just out of reach? Could these experiences point toward an underground
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experiences point toward an underground
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experiences point toward an underground presence that's been with us for longer
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presence that's been with us for longer
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presence that's been with us for longer than we realize? Tonight, I invite you
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than we realize? Tonight, I invite you
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than we realize? Tonight, I invite you to journey with me into the shadows
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to journey with me into the shadows
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to journey with me into the shadows below the surface to confront the
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below the surface to confront the
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below the surface to confront the possibility that we're not alone, nor
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possibility that we're not alone, nor
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possibility that we're not alone, nor above ground, nor beneath it.
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above ground, nor beneath it.
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above ground, nor beneath it. This is one of the most harrowing
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This is one of the most harrowing
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This is one of the most harrowing collections of undergrounding anomalous
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collections of undergrounding anomalous
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collections of undergrounding anomalous activity ever compiled on Phantoms and
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activity ever compiled on Phantoms and
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activity ever compiled on Phantoms and Monsters Radio. So prepare yourself for
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Monsters Radio. So prepare yourself for
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Monsters Radio. So prepare yourself for unex settling revelations, strange
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unex settling revelations, strange
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unex settling revelations, strange connections, and unfiltered voices to
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connections, and unfiltered voices to
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connections, and unfiltered voices to those who have walked into the unknown
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those who have walked into the unknown
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those who have walked into the unknown and survived to tell their stories. But
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and survived to tell their stories. But
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Now, this first account I I've talked
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Now, this first account I I've talked
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Now, this first account I I've talked about many times. It's actually a compil
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about many times. It's actually a compil
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about many times. It's actually a compil compilation of three emails
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compilation of three emails
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compilation of three emails which included answers to a few of my
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which included answers to a few of my
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which included answers to a few of my questions. The uh the man who provided
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questions. The uh the man who provided
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questions. The uh the man who provided this information was at the time of the
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this information was at the time of the
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this information was at the time of the incident a US Army corporal who had
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incident a US Army corporal who had
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incident a US Army corporal who had since retired from the military after a
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since retired from the military after a
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since retired from the military after a lengthy career.
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lengthy career.
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lengthy career. Now he did not give me specifics as to
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Now he did not give me specifics as to
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Now he did not give me specifics as to his uh unit and mission but he feels
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his uh unit and mission but he feels
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his uh unit and mission but he feels strongly that his experience should be
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strongly that his experience should be
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strongly that his experience should be told and he provided two identification
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told and he provided two identification
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told and he provided two identification references which I checked out and did
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references which I checked out and did
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references which I checked out and did check out. Now overall this man served a
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check out. Now overall this man served a
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check out. Now overall this man served a distinguished military career and his
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distinguished military career and his
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distinguished military career and his reputation is quite admirable from what
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reputation is quite admirable from what
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reputation is quite admirable from what I have seen.
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I have seen.
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I have seen. Some of the information has been edited
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Some of the information has been edited
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Some of the information has been edited at the request of the witness.
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at the request of the witness.
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at the request of the witness. Again, this is not the first time I've
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Again, this is not the first time I've
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Again, this is not the first time I've referenced this encounter. So he tells
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referenced this encounter. So he tells
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referenced this encounter. So he tells me
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me
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me in 1970 I was serving as a corporal in
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in 1970 I was serving as a corporal in
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in 1970 I was serving as a corporal in the US Army deployed in South Vietnam in
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the US Army deployed in South Vietnam in
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the US Army deployed in South Vietnam in the region about 30 mi south of the DMZ.
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the region about 30 mi south of the DMZ.
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the region about 30 mi south of the DMZ. At the time, I was second in command of
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At the time, I was second in command of
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At the time, I was second in command of a squad of soldiers. We had set up a
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a squad of soldiers. We had set up a
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a squad of soldiers. We had set up a bivlac in the jungle area that had a few
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bivlac in the jungle area that had a few
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bivlac in the jungle area that had a few steep hills. That evening, my section
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steep hills. That evening, my section
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steep hills. That evening, my section was ordered to patrol one of the small
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was ordered to patrol one of the small
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was ordered to patrol one of the small valleys west of the encampment. We moved
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valleys west of the encampment. We moved
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valleys west of the encampment. We moved out, led by our sergeant.
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out, led by our sergeant.
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out, led by our sergeant. Not long after entering one of the small
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Not long after entering one of the small
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Not long after entering one of the small valleys, we detected movement ahead of
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valleys, we detected movement ahead of
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valleys, we detected movement ahead of us.
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us.
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us. It seemed to be scatter a scattering of
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It seemed to be scatter a scattering of
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It seemed to be scatter a scattering of activity, so we doubted it was the VC,
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activity, so we doubted it was the VC,
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activity, so we doubted it was the VC, but we weren't positive. We hunkered
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but we weren't positive. We hunkered
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but we weren't positive. We hunkered down for about 15 minutes, getting
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down for about 15 minutes, getting
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down for about 15 minutes, getting occasional glimpses of something moving
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occasional glimpses of something moving
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occasional glimpses of something moving within the trees and brush.
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within the trees and brush.
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within the trees and brush. There wasn't enough light to detect what
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There wasn't enough light to detect what
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There wasn't enough light to detect what we were observing, even though the
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we were observing, even though the
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we were observing, even though the moonlight was bright that night. Now,
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moonlight was bright that night. Now,
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moonlight was bright that night. Now, after a while, the activity halted, so
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after a while, the activity halted, so
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after a while, the activity halted, so we continued to move slowly through the
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we continued to move slowly through the
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we continued to move slowly through the valley.
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valley.
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valley. As we approached a sheer wall on the
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As we approached a sheer wall on the
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As we approached a sheer wall on the hill, it looked like someone or
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hill, it looked like someone or
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hill, it looked like someone or something had stacked large stones and
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something had stacked large stones and
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something had stacked large stones and boulders in the pass in front of us.
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boulders in the pass in front of us.
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boulders in the pass in front of us. There were also an there was also an
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There were also an there was also an
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There were also an there was also an opening in the hillside that looked like
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opening in the hillside that looked like
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opening in the hillside that looked like a cave entrance approximately 5 foot
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a cave entrance approximately 5 foot
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a cave entrance approximately 5 foot high and three foot wide narrowing at
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high and three foot wide narrowing at
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high and three foot wide narrowing at the top. when observing the passageway
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the top. when observing the passageway
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the top. when observing the passageway appeared to have been cut away by
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appeared to have been cut away by
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appeared to have been cut away by machinery. The edges were smooth with
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machinery. The edges were smooth with
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machinery. The edges were smooth with small even spaced grooves.
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small even spaced grooves.
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small even spaced grooves. We were puzzled by this because we had
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We were puzzled by this because we had
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We were puzzled by this because we had never seen enemy caves like this just
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never seen enemy caves like this just
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never seen enemy caves like this just underground tunnels. The sergeant
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underground tunnels. The sergeant
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underground tunnels. The sergeant suggested that we may be it may be a VC
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suggested that we may be it may be a VC
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suggested that we may be it may be a VC supply depot. So we started to assess
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supply depot. So we started to assess
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supply depot. So we started to assess how to investigate the cave.
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how to investigate the cave.
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how to investigate the cave. About this time though, things got very
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About this time though, things got very
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About this time though, things got very strange.
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strange.
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strange. We noticed a putrid odor emanating from
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We noticed a putrid odor emanating from
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We noticed a putrid odor emanating from this the cave entrance. The only thing I
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this the cave entrance. The only thing I
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this the cave entrance. The only thing I can compare it to is rotting aids and
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can compare it to is rotting aids and
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can compare it to is rotting aids and eggs and human decay. It was so
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eggs and human decay. It was so
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eggs and human decay. It was so revolting that a few of the soldiers
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revolting that a few of the soldiers
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revolting that a few of the soldiers were becoming ill and started to back
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were becoming ill and started to back
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were becoming ill and started to back away into the jungle, including the
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away into the jungle, including the
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away into the jungle, including the sergeant.
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sergeant.
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sergeant. I was directing a light into the
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I was directing a light into the
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I was directing a light into the entrance to observed anything, but there
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entrance to observed anything, but there
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entrance to observed anything, but there was a haze that made it impossible to
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was a haze that made it impossible to
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was a haze that made it impossible to see through. We had no idea what was
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see through. We had no idea what was
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see through. We had no idea what was before us.
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before us.
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before us. So, the entire squad took a position in
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So, the entire squad took a position in
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So, the entire squad took a position in the heavy brush approximately 150 ft
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the heavy brush approximately 150 ft
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the heavy brush approximately 150 ft from the entrance. Far enough not to be
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from the entrance. Far enough not to be
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from the entrance. Far enough not to be detected, but close enough to observe
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detected, but close enough to observe
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detected, but close enough to observe the cave entrance.
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the cave entrance.
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the cave entrance. We quietly remained there for what
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We quietly remained there for what
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We quietly remained there for what seemed like forever.
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seemed like forever.
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seemed like forever. The jungle was strangely calm, though we
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The jungle was strangely calm, though we
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The jungle was strangely calm, though we heard distant rumblings. It was eerie.
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heard distant rumblings. It was eerie.
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heard distant rumblings. It was eerie. The sergeant was sitting near me talking
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The sergeant was sitting near me talking
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The sergeant was sitting near me talking to himself. He was frightened.
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to himself. He was frightened.
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to himself. He was frightened. I was looking at the rest of the squad.
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I was looking at the rest of the squad.
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I was looking at the rest of the squad. Each of them had wide eyes and scanned
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Each of them had wide eyes and scanned
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Each of them had wide eyes and scanned the area. No one was going to doze off
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the area. No one was going to doze off
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the area. No one was going to doze off during this patrol.
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during this patrol.
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during this patrol. Now, after several hours, dawn was
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Now, after several hours, dawn was
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Now, after several hours, dawn was approaching and the sky began to
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approaching and the sky began to
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approaching and the sky began to lighten. I checked my watch and it was
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lighten. I checked my watch and it was
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lighten. I checked my watch and it was just before 500 hours. Just then, we
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just before 500 hours. Just then, we
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just before 500 hours. Just then, we noticed movement in front of the cave. A
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noticed movement in front of the cave. A
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noticed movement in front of the cave. A being, I first thought it was a man,
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being, I first thought it was a man,
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being, I first thought it was a man, moved through the entrance into the
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moved through the entrance into the
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moved through the entrance into the clearing in front of the cave. As it
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clearing in front of the cave. As it
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clearing in front of the cave. As it stood up from a crouch, it stood at
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stood up from a crouch, it stood at
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stood up from a crouch, it stood at least 7 feet tall high and started to
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least 7 feet tall high and started to
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least 7 feet tall high and started to look in our direction. At that time,
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look in our direction. At that time,
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look in our direction. At that time, another similar looking creature was
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another similar looking creature was
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another similar looking creature was moving out of the cave. They were making
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moving out of the cave. They were making
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moving out of the cave. They were making hellish hissing sounds and looked
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hellish hissing sounds and looked
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hellish hissing sounds and looked directly at us. The only way I can
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directly at us. The only way I can
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directly at us. The only way I can describe these beings is that they
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describe these beings is that they
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describe these beings is that they looked like upright lizards. The scaly
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looked like upright lizards. The scaly
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looked like upright lizards. The scaly shiny skin was very dark, almost black,
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shiny skin was very dark, almost black,
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shiny skin was very dark, almost black, snake- like faces with forward set eyes
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snake- like faces with forward set eyes
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snake- like faces with forward set eyes that were very large. They had arms and
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that were very large. They had arms and
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that were very large. They had arms and legs like a human, but with scaly skin.
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legs like a human, but with scaly skin.
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legs like a human, but with scaly skin. I did notice a tail, though they wore
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I did notice a tail, though they wore
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I did notice a tail, though they wore long one piece green, dark green robes.
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long one piece green, dark green robes.
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long one piece green, dark green robes. I never noticed that they had anything
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I never noticed that they had anything
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I never noticed that they had anything on their feet.
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on their feet.
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on their feet. No one gave the order. It seemed like
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No one gave the order. It seemed like
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No one gave the order. It seemed like the entire squad opened fire at once.
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the entire squad opened fire at once.
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the entire squad opened fire at once. Every piece of vegetation between us and
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Every piece of vegetation between us and
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Every piece of vegetation between us and them was quickly sheared away. I yelled
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them was quickly sheared away. I yelled
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them was quickly sheared away. I yelled out a ceasefire order. At the same time,
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out a ceasefire order. At the same time,
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out a ceasefire order. At the same time, I was looking in the direction of the
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I was looking in the direction of the
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I was looking in the direction of the cave. There was nothing there. We
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cave. There was nothing there. We
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cave. There was nothing there. We immediately checked our flanks in case
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immediately checked our flanks in case
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immediately checked our flanks in case these things circle us, but there was
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these things circle us, but there was
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these things circle us, but there was nothing.
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nothing.
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nothing. Now, as we approached the cave, ready to
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Now, as we approached the cave, ready to
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Now, as we approached the cave, ready to resume action if needed, it became
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resume action if needed, it became
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resume action if needed, it became apparent that the beings had escaped,
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apparent that the beings had escaped,
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apparent that the beings had escaped, most likely back into the cave. It was
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most likely back into the cave. It was
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most likely back into the cave. It was soon decided to set charges and closed
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soon decided to set charges and closed
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soon decided to set charges and closed the cave entrance.
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the cave entrance.
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the cave entrance. When we returned to camp, we all seemed
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When we returned to camp, we all seemed
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When we returned to camp, we all seemed to be in a days.
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to be in a days.
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to be in a days. There was little discussion of the
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There was little discussion of the
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There was little discussion of the incident, and we were never debriefed,
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incident, and we were never debriefed,
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incident, and we were never debriefed, so I know the sergeant never filed a
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so I know the sergeant never filed a
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so I know the sergeant never filed a report. Then again, if he did, it was
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report. Then again, if he did, it was
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report. Then again, if he did, it was kept quiet by the brass.
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So this next account, the witness tells
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So this next account, the witness tells
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So this next account, the witness tells me,
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"Hello, I have a weird story I'd like to
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"Hello, I have a weird story I'd like to
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"Hello, I have a weird story I'd like to present for your consideration. There's
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present for your consideration. There's
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present for your consideration. There's no explanation as to what occurred,
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no explanation as to what occurred,
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no explanation as to what occurred, though I believe the supernatural was at
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though I believe the supernatural was at
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though I believe the supernatural was at play.
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play.
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play. It was the Christmas season of 1958.
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It was the Christmas season of 1958.
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It was the Christmas season of 1958. My parents and I lived in a small home
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My parents and I lived in a small home
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My parents and I lived in a small home in eastern Tennessee.
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in eastern Tennessee.
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in eastern Tennessee. We survived in what little money my
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We survived in what little money my
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We survived in what little money my mother can make doing odd jobs for other
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mother can make doing odd jobs for other
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mother can make doing odd jobs for other people in the area. Now, my father was
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people in the area. Now, my father was
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people in the area. Now, my father was wounded during the Korean War and he
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wounded during the Korean War and he
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wounded during the Korean War and he received a monthly pension from the
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received a monthly pension from the
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received a monthly pension from the government.
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government.
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government. I was 8 years old at the time. After
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I was 8 years old at the time. After
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I was 8 years old at the time. After school, I would work around the house
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school, I would work around the house
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school, I would work around the house and help care for my father. I knew that
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and help care for my father. I knew that
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and help care for my father. I knew that money was tight and figured there
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money was tight and figured there
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money was tight and figured there wouldn't be any gift giving this year
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wouldn't be any gift giving this year
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wouldn't be any gift giving this year that year, but we made the best for what
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that year, but we made the best for what
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that year, but we made the best for what we had. Now, a few days before Christmas
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we had. Now, a few days before Christmas
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we had. Now, a few days before Christmas Day, I was lying in bed, began to hear
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Day, I was lying in bed, began to hear
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Day, I was lying in bed, began to hear noises coming from outside my window.
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noises coming from outside my window.
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noises coming from outside my window. It sounded like children playing and
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It sounded like children playing and
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It sounded like children playing and laughing. I got out of bed and looked
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laughing. I got out of bed and looked
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laughing. I got out of bed and looked out the window. I noticed several blue
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out the window. I noticed several blue
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out the window. I noticed several blue lights bobbing about in my mother's
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lights bobbing about in my mother's
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lights bobbing about in my mother's garden. I went and woke my mother. She
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garden. I went and woke my mother. She
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garden. I went and woke my mother. She got up and we walked out onto the porch.
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got up and we walked out onto the porch.
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got up and we walked out onto the porch. We both witnessed the blue lights moving
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We both witnessed the blue lights moving
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We both witnessed the blue lights moving up and down above the garden. It was
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up and down above the garden. It was
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up and down above the garden. It was very cold, so we went back in the house
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very cold, so we went back in the house
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very cold, so we went back in the house and watched from the bedroom window. The
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and watched from the bedroom window. The
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and watched from the bedroom window. The lights were there for over an hour and
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lights were there for over an hour and
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lights were there for over an hour and continued moving about. We were
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continued moving about. We were
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continued moving about. We were exhausted, so we both went back to
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exhausted, so we both went back to
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exhausted, so we both went back to sleep.
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sleep.
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sleep. In the morning, we sat at the table
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In the morning, we sat at the table
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In the morning, we sat at the table eating breakfast. My parents were
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eating breakfast. My parents were
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eating breakfast. My parents were discussing the blue lights. My father
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discussing the blue lights. My father
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discussing the blue lights. My father said that he heard of a similar
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said that he heard of a similar
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said that he heard of a similar occurrence when he was a boy. The deacon
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occurrence when he was a boy. The deacon
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occurrence when he was a boy. The deacon at his church commented to several of
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at his church commented to several of
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at his church commented to several of the congregation that he noticed blue
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the congregation that he noticed blue
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the congregation that he noticed blue lights outside the rectory one evening.
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lights outside the rectory one evening.
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lights outside the rectory one evening. He explained that these were angels
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He explained that these were angels
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He explained that these were angels watching over the church.
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watching over the church.
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watching over the church. The next few nights I watched for
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The next few nights I watched for
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The next few nights I watched for lights, but they never returned.
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lights, but they never returned.
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lights, but they never returned. So on Christmas Eve, a few family
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So on Christmas Eve, a few family
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So on Christmas Eve, a few family friends stopped by the house during the
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friends stopped by the house during the
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friends stopped by the house during the day to wish us happy holidays. My friend
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day to wish us happy holidays. My friend
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day to wish us happy holidays. My friend Larry came over, too. We listened to the
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Larry came over, too. We listened to the
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Larry came over, too. We listened to the radio for most of the afternoon. Now,
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radio for most of the afternoon. Now,
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radio for most of the afternoon. Now, neither one of us had ever had a
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neither one of us had ever had a
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neither one of us had ever had a television in our home. I mentioned that
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television in our home. I mentioned that
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television in our home. I mentioned that it would be nice to have one, but I knew
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it would be nice to have one, but I knew
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it would be nice to have one, but I knew that we could never afford it.
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that we could never afford it.
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that we could never afford it. I told Larry about the blue lights and
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I told Larry about the blue lights and
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I told Larry about the blue lights and the story that my father had told me.
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the story that my father had told me.
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the story that my father had told me. Larry said that his uncle Joe told him
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Larry said that his uncle Joe told him
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Larry said that his uncle Joe told him the same story about the blue lights
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the same story about the blue lights
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the same story about the blue lights outside the church rectory. So, I
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outside the church rectory. So, I
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outside the church rectory. So, I figured it must have it must have really
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figured it must have it must have really
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figured it must have it must have really happened. Larry also said that his uncle
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happened. Larry also said that his uncle
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happened. Larry also said that his uncle Joe mentioned that there were little
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Joe mentioned that there were little
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Joe mentioned that there were little people with big heads and large eyes who
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people with big heads and large eyes who
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people with big heads and large eyes who lived in the mountains. I asked Larry if
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lived in the mountains. I asked Larry if
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lived in the mountains. I asked Larry if his uncle Joe had ever seen these little
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his uncle Joe had ever seen these little
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his uncle Joe had ever seen these little little people and Larry said that he
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little people and Larry said that he
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little people and Larry said that he just didn't think so.
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just didn't think so.
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just didn't think so. So that evening, my parents and I were
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So that evening, my parents and I were
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So that evening, my parents and I were sitting in the front room when we heard
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sitting in the front room when we heard
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sitting in the front room when we heard what sounded like footsteps on the
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what sounded like footsteps on the
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what sounded like footsteps on the porch.
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porch.
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porch. My father went to investigate, but he
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My father went to investigate, but he
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My father went to investigate, but he didn't see anything unusual. I then told
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didn't see anything unusual. I then told
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didn't see anything unusual. I then told them what Larry's uncle Joe had told
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them what Larry's uncle Joe had told
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them what Larry's uncle Joe had told him. My father just smiled and said that
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him. My father just smiled and said that
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him. My father just smiled and said that old Joe told a lot of good stories,
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old Joe told a lot of good stories,
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old Joe told a lot of good stories, though most of them just weren't true.
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though most of them just weren't true.
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though most of them just weren't true. My father then said that he remembered a
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My father then said that he remembered a
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My father then said that he remembered a story that old Joe told him one day.
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story that old Joe told him one day.
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story that old Joe told him one day. My father said that old Joe told him
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My father said that old Joe told him
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My father said that old Joe told him that the little people of the mountain
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that the little people of the mountain
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that the little people of the mountain would bring gifts to folks they liked.
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would bring gifts to folks they liked.
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would bring gifts to folks they liked. He said that old Joe thought that these
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He said that old Joe thought that these
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He said that old Joe thought that these little people were aliens because they
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little people were aliens because they
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little people were aliens because they had he had seen lights fly off the
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had he had seen lights fly off the
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had he had seen lights fly off the mountain at night. Now, I prodded my
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mountain at night. Now, I prodded my
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mountain at night. Now, I prodded my father to tell me more, but he said old
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father to tell me more, but he said old
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father to tell me more, but he said old Joe told too many stories and they were
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Joe told too many stories and they were
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Joe told too many stories and they were just flatout lies.
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just flatout lies.
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just flatout lies. It's about 10 p.m., so I was set off to
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It's about 10 p.m., so I was set off to
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It's about 10 p.m., so I was set off to bed uh since we were going to church on
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bed uh since we were going to church on
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bed uh since we were going to church on Christmas morning.
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Christmas morning.
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Christmas morning. I woke in the middle of the night to get
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I woke in the middle of the night to get
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I woke in the middle of the night to get a drink of water. I I overlooked at the
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a drink of water. I I overlooked at the
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a drink of water. I I overlooked at the time, but I believe it was around 1:00
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time, but I believe it was around 1:00
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time, but I believe it was around 1:00 am or so.
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am or so.
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am or so. I walked out of my room into the hallway
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I walked out of my room into the hallway
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I walked out of my room into the hallway and noticed the same giggling and
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and noticed the same giggling and
15:58
and noticed the same giggling and laughter I had heard the night I
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laughter I had heard the night I
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laughter I had heard the night I witnessed the blue lights. The sound was
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witnessed the blue lights. The sound was
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witnessed the blue lights. The sound was coming from the front room. I slowly
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coming from the front room. I slowly
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coming from the front room. I slowly walked down the hallway and peered
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walked down the hallway and peered
16:07
walked down the hallway and peered through the corner. There was nothing
16:09
through the corner. There was nothing
16:09
through the corner. There was nothing there, but I did see a square shape on
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there, but I did see a square shape on
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there, but I did see a square shape on the floor by the bookshelf.
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the floor by the bookshelf.
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the floor by the bookshelf. I turned on the room light. It was a
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I turned on the room light. It was a
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I turned on the room light. It was a brand new television, a Motorola.
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brand new television, a Motorola.
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brand new television, a Motorola. I remember letting out a screaming,
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I remember letting out a screaming,
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I remember letting out a screaming, hearing my mother running down the
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hearing my mother running down the
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hearing my mother running down the hallway.
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hallway.
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hallway. She saw me standing in front of the
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She saw me standing in front of the
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She saw me standing in front of the bookshelf, not knowing what was going
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bookshelf, not knowing what was going
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bookshelf, not knowing what was going on. Then she noticed the television. I
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on. Then she noticed the television. I
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on. Then she noticed the television. I can still remember the strange look on
16:34
can still remember the strange look on
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can still remember the strange look on her face. She turned and ran back into
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her face. She turned and ran back into
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her face. She turned and ran back into the bedroom, yelling all the way. I
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the bedroom, yelling all the way. I
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the bedroom, yelling all the way. I could hear her asking about the
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could hear her asking about the
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could hear her asking about the television while my father answered,
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television while my father answered,
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television while my father answered, "What television?
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"What television?
16:43
"What television? We sat in the front room just staring at
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We sat in the front room just staring at
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We sat in the front room just staring at the television, occasionally looking at
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the television, occasionally looking at
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the television, occasionally looking at each other. We never figured out how it
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each other. We never figured out how it
16:50
each other. We never figured out how it had gotten there. I want to think it was
16:52
had gotten there. I want to think it was
16:52
had gotten there. I want to think it was the little people in the mountain. In
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the little people in the mountain. In
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the little people in the mountain. In fact, that's what old Joe told everybody
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fact, that's what old Joe told everybody
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fact, that's what old Joe told everybody who'd listened.
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who'd listened.
16:59
who'd listened. And I I did talk to this witness and you
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And I I did talk to this witness and you
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And I I did talk to this witness and you and the reason I put this in here for
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and the reason I put this in here for
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and the reason I put this in here for the underground thing was they
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the underground thing was they
17:07
the underground thing was they apparently Joe had told them that these
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apparently Joe had told them that these
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apparently Joe had told them that these these little creatures lived in in the
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these little creatures lived in in the
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these little creatures lived in in the caves in the mountains. So um it's an
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caves in the mountains. So um it's an
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caves in the mountains. So um it's an it's an intriguing story. Is it true? I
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it's an intriguing story. Is it true? I
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it's an intriguing story. Is it true? I don't know. But it it's interesting.
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Now, I received an intriguing typed
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Now, I received an intriguing typed
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Now, I received an intriguing typed letter in the mail from a guy by the
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letter in the mail from a guy by the
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letter in the mail from a guy by the name of Jerry
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name of Jerry
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name of Jerry who now lives on the the US West Coast.
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who now lives on the the US West Coast.
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who now lives on the the US West Coast. He no contact information was given. A
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He no contact information was given. A
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He no contact information was given. A bit of personal information was removed
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bit of personal information was removed
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bit of personal information was removed for me to post and to preserve the
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for me to post and to preserve the
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for me to post and to preserve the witnesses and an enemy. So, he tells me,
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witnesses and an enemy. So, he tells me,
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witnesses and an enemy. So, he tells me, "Sir, this is the first time I'm
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"Sir, this is the first time I'm
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"Sir, this is the first time I'm disclosing my experience in public.
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disclosing my experience in public.
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disclosing my experience in public. My family has been previously informed
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My family has been previously informed
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My family has been previously informed of the details. At the time, I owned a
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of the details. At the time, I owned a
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of the details. At the time, I owned a small business which I had started after
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small business which I had started after
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small business which I had started after I finished 12 years stent in the
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I finished 12 years stent in the
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I finished 12 years stent in the military.
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military.
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military. I was then living near Eldridge,
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I was then living near Eldridge,
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I was then living near Eldridge, Missouri and was raised in a general
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Missouri and was raised in a general
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Missouri and was raised in a general area and knew the terrain well. I had
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area and knew the terrain well. I had
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area and knew the terrain well. I had spent time at the US Army engineering
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spent time at the US Army engineering
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spent time at the US Army engineering school at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri.
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school at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri.
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school at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. And some of the training included
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And some of the training included
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And some of the training included splunking.
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splunking.
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splunking. When I left the army, I continued to
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When I left the army, I continued to
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When I left the army, I continued to explore caves as recreation.
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explore caves as recreation.
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explore caves as recreation. Now, in 1993,
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Now, in 1993,
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Now, in 1993, I helped form a local group of
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I helped form a local group of
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I helped form a local group of experienced cavers. We would get
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experienced cavers. We would get
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experienced cavers. We would get together on weekends and explore some of
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together on weekends and explore some of
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together on weekends and explore some of the cavern systems throughout Missouri
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the cavern systems throughout Missouri
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the cavern systems throughout Missouri and Arkansas. The experience I'm about
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and Arkansas. The experience I'm about
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and Arkansas. The experience I'm about to describe took place in the summer of
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to describe took place in the summer of
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to describe took place in the summer of 1995. Now, I was on my own that day,
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1995. Now, I was on my own that day,
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1995. Now, I was on my own that day, which was not uncommon.
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which was not uncommon.
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which was not uncommon. I had decided to check out a cave in
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I had decided to check out a cave in
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I had decided to check out a cave in Candom County, Missouri, which was part
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Candom County, Missouri, which was part
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Candom County, Missouri, which was part of a relatively large system in the
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of a relatively large system in the
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of a relatively large system in the area. From what I could tell, this cave
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area. From what I could tell, this cave
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area. From what I could tell, this cave had not been explored for an extended
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had not been explored for an extended
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had not been explored for an extended period.
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period.
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period. The entrance was very narrow and well
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The entrance was very narrow and well
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The entrance was very narrow and well hidden. After squeezing through the
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hidden. After squeezing through the
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hidden. After squeezing through the opening, I descended another 50 foot or
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opening, I descended another 50 foot or
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opening, I descended another 50 foot or so before the cave became began to open
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so before the cave became began to open
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so before the cave became began to open into a series of chambers. I moved
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into a series of chambers. I moved
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into a series of chambers. I moved through several of these chambers,
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through several of these chambers,
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through several of these chambers, taking my time to examine the area or
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taking my time to examine the area or
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taking my time to examine the area or possible artifacts and formations.
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possible artifacts and formations.
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possible artifacts and formations. I finally reached what I thought was the
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I finally reached what I thought was the
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I finally reached what I thought was the end of the cave.
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end of the cave.
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end of the cave. But I started to hear rustling sounds
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But I started to hear rustling sounds
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But I started to hear rustling sounds that were echoing from the small opening
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that were echoing from the small opening
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that were echoing from the small opening near the top of the chamber. I assumed
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near the top of the chamber. I assumed
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near the top of the chamber. I assumed the sounds were bats and didn't pay much
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the sounds were bats and didn't pay much
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the sounds were bats and didn't pay much attention to them. But after a while, I
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attention to them. But after a while, I
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attention to them. But after a while, I heard a motor and talking.
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heard a motor and talking.
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heard a motor and talking. I stood and listened for several
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I stood and listened for several
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I stood and listened for several minutes, wondering what was on the other
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minutes, wondering what was on the other
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minutes, wondering what was on the other side of this chamber. The opening was
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side of this chamber. The opening was
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side of this chamber. The opening was about 10 ft above me. I maneuvered my
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about 10 ft above me. I maneuvered my
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about 10 ft above me. I maneuvered my way up to the opening, which was flat
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way up to the opening, which was flat
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way up to the opening, which was flat and narrow, but big enough for me to get
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and narrow, but big enough for me to get
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and narrow, but big enough for me to get a decent look into it.
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a decent look into it.
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a decent look into it. Now, as I positioned myself at the front
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Now, as I positioned myself at the front
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Now, as I positioned myself at the front of the opening, I saw a light on the
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of the opening, I saw a light on the
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of the opening, I saw a light on the other end. The passageway was only a few
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other end. The passageway was only a few
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other end. The passageway was only a few foot long, but was just too narrow for
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foot long, but was just too narrow for
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foot long, but was just too narrow for me to move through. As I looked through
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me to move through. As I looked through
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me to move through. As I looked through the opening, there was very warm draft
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the opening, there was very warm draft
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the opening, there was very warm draft of air hitting my face as well. The air
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of air hitting my face as well. The air
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of air hitting my face as well. The air had very accurate vinegar-like odor.
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had very accurate vinegar-like odor.
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had very accurate vinegar-like odor. There was a vast and well-lit room with
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There was a vast and well-lit room with
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There was a vast and well-lit room with limestone walls. I noticed a small
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limestone walls. I noticed a small
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limestone walls. I noticed a small vehicle that looked like a golf cart
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vehicle that looked like a golf cart
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vehicle that looked like a golf cart with very low on the ground and without
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with very low on the ground and without
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with very low on the ground and without wheels. I continued to observe until I
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wheels. I continued to observe until I
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wheels. I continued to observe until I started to hear voices that were getting
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started to hear voices that were getting
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started to hear voices that were getting louder and nearer.
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louder and nearer.
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louder and nearer. Something was making its way toward the
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Something was making its way toward the
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Something was making its way toward the vehicle. I had to rub my eyes because I
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vehicle. I had to rub my eyes because I
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vehicle. I had to rub my eyes because I didn't believe what I was looking at.
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didn't believe what I was looking at.
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didn't believe what I was looking at. This creature, because it was not a man,
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This creature, because it was not a man,
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This creature, because it was not a man, stood about 7 foot and had brown scaly
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stood about 7 foot and had brown scaly
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stood about 7 foot and had brown scaly skin. The face and head were shaped like
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skin. The face and head were shaped like
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skin. The face and head were shaped like a human with a flat nose, but there was
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a human with a flat nose, but there was
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a human with a flat nose, but there was no ears or hair. The top of the head had
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no ears or hair. The top of the head had
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no ears or hair. The top of the head had a slight scaly ray or ridge that
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a slight scaly ray or ridge that
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a slight scaly ray or ridge that extended down the back of the neck. From
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extended down the back of the neck. From
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extended down the back of the neck. From what I could see, it had lips and
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what I could see, it had lips and
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what I could see, it had lips and regularsized eyes. The arms were very
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regularsized eyes. The arms were very
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regularsized eyes. The arms were very long and muscular with humanlike hands.
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long and muscular with humanlike hands.
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long and muscular with humanlike hands. It also had a massive four to five foot
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It also had a massive four to five foot
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It also had a massive four to five foot uh tail that tapered to a point. It was
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uh tail that tapered to a point. It was
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uh tail that tapered to a point. It was dressed in gold metallic outfit with
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dressed in gold metallic outfit with
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dressed in gold metallic outfit with long pants and shoes. It also carried an
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long pants and shoes. It also carried an
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long pants and shoes. It also carried an oval pack attached to its back.
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oval pack attached to its back.
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oval pack attached to its back. I watched as this thing was looking at
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I watched as this thing was looking at
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I watched as this thing was looking at something on the vehicle. I had a
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something on the vehicle. I had a
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something on the vehicle. I had a high-speed camera which I used to
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high-speed camera which I used to
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high-speed camera which I used to document my cave explorations. I
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document my cave explorations. I
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document my cave explorations. I obtained a few distorted images of the
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obtained a few distorted images of the
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obtained a few distorted images of the beam. For some reason, while I was
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beam. For some reason, while I was
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beam. For some reason, while I was taking photos, the creature stopped and
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taking photos, the creature stopped and
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taking photos, the creature stopped and turned, looking in my direction.
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turned, looking in my direction.
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turned, looking in my direction. I'm not sure if it heard me, but I knew
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I'm not sure if it heard me, but I knew
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I'm not sure if it heard me, but I knew of it. It knew of my pre presence. It
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of it. It knew of my pre presence. It
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of it. It knew of my pre presence. It then made a terrible hissing sound as it
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then made a terrible hissing sound as it
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then made a terrible hissing sound as it continued to look in my direction. That
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continued to look in my direction. That
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continued to look in my direction. That was enough for me. I quickly started
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was enough for me. I quickly started
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was enough for me. I quickly started making a beline out of that cave. When I
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making a beline out of that cave. When I
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making a beline out of that cave. When I reached the entrance, I was shaking and
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reached the entrance, I was shaking and
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reached the entrance, I was shaking and hyperventilating. I finally reached my
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hyperventilating. I finally reached my
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hyperventilating. I finally reached my vehicle and drove home.
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vehicle and drove home.
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vehicle and drove home. Now, I continued to explore caves and
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Now, I continued to explore caves and
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Now, I continued to explore caves and areas. I've heard stories of people
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areas. I've heard stories of people
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areas. I've heard stories of people encountering strange underground beings,
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encountering strange underground beings,
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encountering strange underground beings, but I still never dis disclosed my
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but I still never dis disclosed my
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but I still never dis disclosed my experience. Now, a few years after my
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experience. Now, a few years after my
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experience. Now, a few years after my experience, I went back to the cave, but
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experience, I went back to the cave, but
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experience, I went back to the cave, but was unable to get near
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was unable to get near
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was unable to get near uh near it since the area was now
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uh near it since the area was now
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uh near it since the area was now government property. I can assume that I
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government property. I can assume that I
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government property. I can assume that I witnessed something that I wasn't
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witnessed something that I wasn't
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witnessed something that I wasn't supposed to see. It pains me to think
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supposed to see. It pains me to think
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supposed to see. It pains me to think what secrets are being kept from us. To
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what secrets are being kept from us. To
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what secrets are being kept from us. To those who say that there's no nonhumans
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those who say that there's no nonhumans
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those who say that there's no nonhumans living among us, well, think again.
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living among us, well, think again.
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living among us, well, think again. They're here.
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They're here.
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They're here. I do have the evidence of the
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I do have the evidence of the
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I do have the evidence of the experience, but I do not wish to release
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experience, but I do not wish to release
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experience, but I do not wish to release it at this time. And I have kept up with
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it at this time. And I have kept up with
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it at this time. And I have kept up with this Jerry guy for years and he will not
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this Jerry guy for years and he will not
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this Jerry guy for years and he will not release the photographs, which is
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release the photographs, which is
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release the photographs, which is something I do run into. I mean, he's
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something I do run into. I mean, he's
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something I do run into. I mean, he's sure they I haven't even seen anything.
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sure they I haven't even seen anything.
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sure they I haven't even seen anything. So, he, you know, I I don't know if he
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So, he, you know, I I don't know if he
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So, he, you know, I I don't know if he really had them or not, but he he swears
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really had them or not, but he he swears
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really had them or not, but he he swears he had something. So, I don't know.
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Now, this next account, the witness
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Now, this next account, the witness
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Now, this next account, the witness tells me, and I want to thank u we got I
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tells me, and I want to thank u we got I
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tells me, and I want to thank u we got I did get a
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bear zip. Yeah. Thank you for your
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bear zip. Yeah. Thank you for your
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bear zip. Yeah. Thank you for your donation. Very much appreciated.
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donation. Very much appreciated.
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donation. Very much appreciated. Now, this next witness states, "In 2015,
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Now, this next witness states, "In 2015,
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Now, this next witness states, "In 2015, I took a trip through northern Arizona.
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I took a trip through northern Arizona.
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I took a trip through northern Arizona. I live in Phoenix, hiking, taking
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I live in Phoenix, hiking, taking
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I live in Phoenix, hiking, taking photos, and enjoying nature.
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photos, and enjoying nature.
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photos, and enjoying nature. At one location, it was late, so I
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At one location, it was late, so I
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At one location, it was late, so I decided to park a few for a few hours
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decided to park a few for a few hours
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decided to park a few for a few hours and or spend the night in my truck. I
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and or spend the night in my truck. I
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and or spend the night in my truck. I had the car turned off with with the
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had the car turned off with with the
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had the car turned off with with the windows down.
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windows down.
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windows down. There was a giant full moon in the sky
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There was a giant full moon in the sky
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There was a giant full moon in the sky behind me and I was looking at it in my
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behind me and I was looking at it in my
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behind me and I was looking at it in my outside rearview mirror. Then this being
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outside rearview mirror. Then this being
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outside rearview mirror. Then this being walked from my left to my right about
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walked from my left to my right about
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walked from my left to my right about four to six feet behind the tail of the
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four to six feet behind the tail of the
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four to six feet behind the tail of the truck. I stopped and looked, it stopped
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truck. I stopped and looked, it stopped
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truck. I stopped and looked, it stopped and looked at me. It was about 8 foot
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and looked at me. It was about 8 foot
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and looked at me. It was about 8 foot tall, very shiny with long arms, and its
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tall, very shiny with long arms, and its
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tall, very shiny with long arms, and its elbows were lower than ours. The neck
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elbows were lower than ours. The neck
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elbows were lower than ours. The neck was about a foot long, pointed forward a
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was about a foot long, pointed forward a
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was about a foot long, pointed forward a bit, oval head, and what looked like 4
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bit, oval head, and what looked like 4
24:13
bit, oval head, and what looked like 4 foot
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foot
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foot 4ft tube extended from the jaw down
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4ft tube extended from the jaw down
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4ft tube extended from the jaw down forward, almost like a very long beard
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forward, almost like a very long beard
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forward, almost like a very long beard coming to a point.
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coming to a point.
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coming to a point. The moon was behind it, so I saw it in
24:25
The moon was behind it, so I saw it in
24:25
The moon was behind it, so I saw it in silhouette. It strolled like it was
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silhouette. It strolled like it was
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silhouette. It strolled like it was struggling to move. I tried to roll out
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struggling to move. I tried to roll out
24:30
struggling to move. I tried to roll out my window, but the truck was off.
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my window, but the truck was off.
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my window, but the truck was off. Slowly, I slightly turned it slightly
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Slowly, I slightly turned it slightly
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Slowly, I slightly turned it slightly turned its shoulders toward me, and that
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turned its shoulders toward me, and that
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turned its shoulders toward me, and that long freakish neck turned like an
24:39
long freakish neck turned like an
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long freakish neck turned like an insects would.
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insects would.
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insects would. The face is looking right at me. I
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The face is looking right at me. I
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The face is looking right at me. I thought that that was it. I'm dead. It
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thought that that was it. I'm dead. It
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thought that that was it. I'm dead. It seemed so skinny, I figured it was
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seemed so skinny, I figured it was
24:50
seemed so skinny, I figured it was hungry. I had my hand on the keys. If it
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hungry. I had my hand on the keys. If it
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hungry. I had my hand on the keys. If it came towards me, I turn the truck on,
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came towards me, I turn the truck on,
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came towards me, I turn the truck on, rolled the windows, and take off.
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rolled the windows, and take off.
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rolled the windows, and take off. The head turned back forward and it
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The head turned back forward and it
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The head turned back forward and it walked on. I waited a minute then
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walked on. I waited a minute then
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walked on. I waited a minute then started the truck and took off. So a few
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started the truck and took off. So a few
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started the truck and took off. So a few months later I decided to go back but in
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months later I decided to go back but in
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months later I decided to go back but in the daytime I found the exact spot.
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the daytime I found the exact spot.
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the daytime I found the exact spot. There was nothing there but dirt and
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There was nothing there but dirt and
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There was nothing there but dirt and desert. No buildings for miles. All dirt
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desert. No buildings for miles. All dirt
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desert. No buildings for miles. All dirt roads. I traveled around the area since
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roads. I traveled around the area since
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roads. I traveled around the area since I was there. Did a bit of hiking and
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I was there. Did a bit of hiking and
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I was there. Did a bit of hiking and then came upon a place and parked.
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then came upon a place and parked.
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then came upon a place and parked. It looked like an old crash site with a
25:26
It looked like an old crash site with a
25:26
It looked like an old crash site with a hole in the in the ground, burned out
25:28
hole in the in the ground, burned out
25:28
hole in the in the ground, burned out rocks and bushes growing in it. Whatever
25:31
rocks and bushes growing in it. Whatever
25:31
rocks and bushes growing in it. Whatever happened there happened a long time ago.
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happened there happened a long time ago.
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happened there happened a long time ago. Then I heard digging sounds like heavy
25:36
Then I heard digging sounds like heavy
25:36
Then I heard digging sounds like heavy machinery, trucks backing up, making
25:38
machinery, trucks backing up, making
25:38
machinery, trucks backing up, making that beep beep sound like a lot of them
25:41
that beep beep sound like a lot of them
25:41
that beep beep sound like a lot of them do. But there was nothing around me for
25:43
do. But there was nothing around me for
25:44
do. But there was nothing around me for miles, just desert.
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miles, just desert.
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miles, just desert. I drove around a bit to see where the
25:48
I drove around a bit to see where the
25:48
I drove around a bit to see where the sound was coming from, but I was all
25:50
sound was coming from, but I was all
25:50
sound was coming from, but I was all alone out there. I went back to the spot
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alone out there. I went back to the spot
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alone out there. I went back to the spot and could hear lots of trucks busy at
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and could hear lots of trucks busy at
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and could hear lots of trucks busy at work like primary digging construction
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work like primary digging construction
25:58
work like primary digging construction machines.
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machines.
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machines. I then got on my knees and put my ear to
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I then got on my knees and put my ear to
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I then got on my knees and put my ear to the ground. The digging sound was coming
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the ground. The digging sound was coming
26:04
the ground. The digging sound was coming from underground.
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from underground.
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from underground. That was odd. Nothing around that would
26:09
That was odd. Nothing around that would
26:10
That was odd. Nothing around that would identify the area for construction. Out
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identify the area for construction. Out
26:12
identify the area for construction. Out in the desert on the straight forward
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in the desert on the straight forward
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in the desert on the straight forward road, I saw no one pass by at all.
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road, I saw no one pass by at all.
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road, I saw no one pass by at all. Then I noticed two large shiny white
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Then I noticed two large shiny white
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Then I noticed two large shiny white pickup trucks facing me in the desert
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pickup trucks facing me in the desert
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pickup trucks facing me in the desert and the windows were black. They seemed
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and the windows were black. They seemed
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and the windows were black. They seemed to appear out of nowhere and then two
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to appear out of nowhere and then two
26:28
to appear out of nowhere and then two more appeared behind me. It was just me
26:32
more appeared behind me. It was just me
26:32
more appeared behind me. It was just me and the four trucks and a lot of people
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and the four trucks and a lot of people
26:34
and the four trucks and a lot of people digging under me. I got concerned. I
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digging under me. I got concerned. I
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digging under me. I got concerned. I backed into my got back in my vehicle
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backed into my got back in my vehicle
26:39
backed into my got back in my vehicle and left. Now, after a bit, I slowed
26:42
and left. Now, after a bit, I slowed
26:42
and left. Now, after a bit, I slowed down. No one was following, so I drove
26:45
down. No one was following, so I drove
26:45
down. No one was following, so I drove until I got to the next road. There was
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until I got to the next road. There was
26:48
until I got to the next road. There was an underpass on the road to go north. I
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an underpass on the road to go north. I
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an underpass on the road to go north. I took a right to go south, go under the
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took a right to go south, go under the
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took a right to go south, go under the underpass, and take a left. At both
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underpass, and take a left. At both
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underpass, and take a left. At both exits were the same big white pickup
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exits were the same big white pickup
26:59
exits were the same big white pickup trucks. The glass tinted black and
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trucks. The glass tinted black and
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trucks. The glass tinted black and whitey. Whichever way I turned, one of
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whitey. Whichever way I turned, one of
27:04
whitey. Whichever way I turned, one of them would be behind me. I headed south
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them would be behind me. I headed south
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them would be behind me. I headed south and the truck behind me immediately took
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and the truck behind me immediately took
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and the truck behind me immediately took off after me.
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off after me.
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off after me. The other truck turned around and
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The other truck turned around and
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The other truck turned around and followed. The truck was right on my
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followed. The truck was right on my
27:15
followed. The truck was right on my bumper.
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bumper.
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bumper. It was so large I couldn't see in its
27:19
It was so large I couldn't see in its
27:19
It was so large I couldn't see in its window, but the tent was so dark I
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window, but the tent was so dark I
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window, but the tent was so dark I couldn't see anyone driving anyway. I
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couldn't see anyone driving anyway. I
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couldn't see anyone driving anyway. I was going 90 mph and as I was as it was
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was going 90 mph and as I was as it was
27:27
was going 90 mph and as I was as it was right on my tail. The other one tried to
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right on my tail. The other one tried to
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right on my tail. The other one tried to overtake me. I was weaving between two
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overtake me. I was weaving between two
27:33
overtake me. I was weaving between two lanes to keep it from passing. I'd gone
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lanes to keep it from passing. I'd gone
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lanes to keep it from passing. I'd gone into the left lane to block the second
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into the left lane to block the second
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into the left lane to block the second truck and the one behind me tried to
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truck and the one behind me tried to
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truck and the one behind me tried to pass me on the right. This went on for
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pass me on the right. This went on for
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pass me on the right. This went on for miles until there was an exit with a few
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miles until there was an exit with a few
27:45
miles until there was an exit with a few shops. I took that exit and both trucks
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shops. I took that exit and both trucks
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shops. I took that exit and both trucks slowed, did a U-turn, and returned.
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slowed, did a U-turn, and returned.
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slowed, did a U-turn, and returned. I knew that they had my license plate,
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I knew that they had my license plate,
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I knew that they had my license plate, so I figured I was screwed. I uncovered
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so I figured I was screwed. I uncovered
27:56
so I figured I was screwed. I uncovered something they didn't want to be found.
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something they didn't want to be found.
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something they didn't want to be found. I went home and just waited for the
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I went home and just waited for the
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I went home and just waited for the knock on the door to be shot or
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knock on the door to be shot or
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knock on the door to be shot or whatever. Nothing happened.
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whatever. Nothing happened.
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whatever. Nothing happened. I got no contact, no warning, nothing. I
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I got no contact, no warning, nothing. I
28:08
I got no contact, no warning, nothing. I was afraid to tell my friends as they
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was afraid to tell my friends as they
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was afraid to tell my friends as they might be incriminated as well. Years
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might be incriminated as well. Years
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might be incriminated as well. Years passed and nothing happened. It's been
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passed and nothing happened. It's been
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passed and nothing happened. It's been seven years now and I've never gone back
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seven years now and I've never gone back
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seven years now and I've never gone back to either location. Seeing that thing
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to either location. Seeing that thing
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to either location. Seeing that thing walking and hearing the digging
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walking and hearing the digging
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walking and hearing the digging underground and then seeing very earthly
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underground and then seeing very earthly
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underground and then seeing very earthly trucks trying to run me off the road,
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trucks trying to run me off the road,
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trucks trying to run me off the road, could there be a connection? I don't
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could there be a connection? I don't
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could there be a connection? I don't know. I stopped going out into the
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know. I stopped going out into the
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know. I stopped going out into the desert from then on.
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desert from then on.
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desert from then on. Do you have any idea what these what the
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Do you have any idea what these what the
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Do you have any idea what these what the thing things were that I saw? I'd love
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thing things were that I saw? I'd love
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thing things were that I saw? I'd love some answers. I guess we all would. I
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some answers. I guess we all would. I
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some answers. I guess we all would. I have no idea what happened there. Uh I
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have no idea what happened there. Uh I
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have no idea what happened there. Uh I I've had a lot of accounts over the
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I've had a lot of accounts over the
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I've had a lot of accounts over the years, especially out in deserts, and uh
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years, especially out in deserts, and uh
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years, especially out in deserts, and uh that was a new one for me. So, is it
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that was a new one for me. So, is it
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that was a new one for me. So, is it government involved? Who knows?
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So this next account, the original email
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So this next account, the original email
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So this next account, the original email from the witness was forwarded to me
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from the witness was forwarded to me
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from the witness was forwarded to me during the Christmas holiday with honest
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during the Christmas holiday with honest
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during the Christmas holiday with honest intent in deference to Gregor, the
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intent in deference to Gregor, the
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intent in deference to Gregor, the witness. I had exchanged emails with
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witness. I had exchanged emails with
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witness. I had exchanged emails with this witness, but some communication
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this witness, but some communication
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this witness, but some communication difficulties needed to be ironed out
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difficulties needed to be ironed out
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difficulties needed to be ironed out since his English was a bit rusty
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since his English was a bit rusty
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since his English was a bit rusty according to him. Anyway, there were
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according to him. Anyway, there were
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according to him. Anyway, there were this is the final version of Greor's
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this is the final version of Greor's
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this is the final version of Greor's encounter.
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He tells me, "Hello, Lon. I'm writing to
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He tells me, "Hello, Lon. I'm writing to
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He tells me, "Hello, Lon. I'm writing to you from where I live in Jamundan,
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you from where I live in Jamundan,
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you from where I live in Jamundan, Austria. I came came across your story
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Austria. I came came across your story
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Austria. I came came across your story about the man who had an encounter with
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about the man who had an encounter with
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about the man who had an encounter with an alien type creature in a cave in the
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an alien type creature in a cave in the
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an alien type creature in a cave in the United States.
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United States.
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United States. The story is like the my encounter in an
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The story is like the my encounter in an
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The story is like the my encounter in an obscure cave here in Upper Austria. This
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obscure cave here in Upper Austria. This
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obscure cave here in Upper Austria. This area is known for salt mines from the
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area is known for salt mines from the
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area is known for salt mines from the former Havsburg Empire. I am a trained
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former Havsburg Empire. I am a trained
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former Havsburg Empire. I am a trained certified geologist. I studied at the
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certified geologist. I studied at the
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certified geologist. I studied at the University of Saltsburg and the
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University of Saltsburg and the
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University of Saltsburg and the University of Madison, Wisconsin.
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I have explored and documented cave
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I have explored and documented cave
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I have explored and documented cave systems throughout Austria, the Czech
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systems throughout Austria, the Czech
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systems throughout Austria, the Czech Republic, and Poland since 1988.
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Republic, and Poland since 1988.
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Republic, and Poland since 1988. So, in May 2011, I was in a narrow cave
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So, in May 2011, I was in a narrow cave
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So, in May 2011, I was in a narrow cave that a colleague had recently found.
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that a colleague had recently found.
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that a colleague had recently found. This was approximately 2 kilometers
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This was approximately 2 kilometers
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This was approximately 2 kilometers north of Opentron with on the opposite
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north of Opentron with on the opposite
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north of Opentron with on the opposite side of the descending mountain range in
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side of the descending mountain range in
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side of the descending mountain range in the foothills near the east bank of
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the foothills near the east bank of
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the foothills near the east bank of Halleter Lake. As I moved through the
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Halleter Lake. As I moved through the
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Halleter Lake. As I moved through the complex passageway, I started to hear
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complex passageway, I started to hear
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complex passageway, I started to hear voices emanating from the darkness ahead
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voices emanating from the darkness ahead
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voices emanating from the darkness ahead of me. I started collecting a few
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of me. I started collecting a few
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of me. I started collecting a few samples from the cave wall, chipping it
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samples from the cave wall, chipping it
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samples from the cave wall, chipping it with my pick. I moved deeper, maybe 50
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with my pick. I moved deeper, maybe 50
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with my pick. I moved deeper, maybe 50 meters, until I noticed the voices
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meters, until I noticed the voices
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meters, until I noticed the voices again. Now, I'm familiar with the echoes
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again. Now, I'm familiar with the echoes
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again. Now, I'm familiar with the echoes of the Doppler effect, but this was
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of the Doppler effect, but this was
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of the Doppler effect, but this was different. I stood quietly for several
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different. I stood quietly for several
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different. I stood quietly for several minutes until the voices stopped. Again,
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minutes until the voices stopped. Again,
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minutes until the voices stopped. Again, I I moved through the cave, almost
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I I moved through the cave, almost
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I I moved through the cave, almost crawling at this point. After another 40
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crawling at this point. After another 40
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crawling at this point. After another 40 meters, I ascended into a chamber that
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meters, I ascended into a chamber that
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meters, I ascended into a chamber that was big enough to accommodate several
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was big enough to accommodate several
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was big enough to accommodate several people.
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people.
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people. There were two wide openings on the
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There were two wide openings on the
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There were two wide openings on the opposite side of the chamber. Now, each
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opposite side of the chamber. Now, each
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opposite side of the chamber. Now, each looked like a machine had excavated it.
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looked like a machine had excavated it.
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looked like a machine had excavated it. There was also a noticeable rotting
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There was also a noticeable rotting
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There was also a noticeable rotting odor. As I examined the chamber, I
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odor. As I examined the chamber, I
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odor. As I examined the chamber, I noticed an odd red iridesence as I
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noticed an odd red iridesence as I
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noticed an odd red iridesence as I passed the light over the rock floor.
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passed the light over the rock floor.
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passed the light over the rock floor. When I knelt to collect a sample, I
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When I knelt to collect a sample, I
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When I knelt to collect a sample, I again heard voices coming from one of
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again heard voices coming from one of
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again heard voices coming from one of the passageways.
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the passageways.
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the passageways. Now, at this point, I was terrified and
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Now, at this point, I was terrified and
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Now, at this point, I was terrified and started to hurry back through the narrow
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started to hurry back through the narrow
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started to hurry back through the narrow cave. After I squeezed back several
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cave. After I squeezed back several
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cave. After I squeezed back several meters, I was able to turn my head just
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meters, I was able to turn my head just
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meters, I was able to turn my head just enough to look back into that dark
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enough to look back into that dark
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enough to look back into that dark chamber.
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chamber.
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chamber. A yellow light slowly made its way into
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A yellow light slowly made its way into
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A yellow light slowly made its way into the chamber from the left opening in the
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the chamber from the left opening in the
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the chamber from the left opening in the chamber. Then there were several yellow
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chamber. Then there were several yellow
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chamber. Then there were several yellow lights following the first. As the
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lights following the first. As the
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lights following the first. As the lights moved through the opening into
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lights moved through the opening into
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lights moved through the opening into the chamber, then back through the
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the chamber, then back through the
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the chamber, then back through the opening on the right, I saw the beings.
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opening on the right, I saw the beings.
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opening on the right, I saw the beings. The sight sent fear throughout my body.
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The sight sent fear throughout my body.
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The sight sent fear throughout my body. I was paralyzed.
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I was paralyzed.
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I was paralyzed. The creatures were humanoid in stature,
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The creatures were humanoid in stature,
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The creatures were humanoid in stature, but these were not human.
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but these were not human.
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but these were not human. each varied in height, but all looked
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each varied in height, but all looked
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each varied in height, but all looked the same. Muscular lizards that walked
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the same. Muscular lizards that walked
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the same. Muscular lizards that walked upright like humans.
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upright like humans.
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upright like humans. There is no better term that I can use
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There is no better term that I can use
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There is no better term that I can use to identify these beings. These
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to identify these beings. These
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to identify these beings. These creatures wore dark-coled full body
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creatures wore dark-coled full body
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creatures wore dark-coled full body uniforms that extended and covered the
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uniforms that extended and covered the
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uniforms that extended and covered the feet.
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feet.
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feet. I couldn't tell the exact color of the
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I couldn't tell the exact color of the
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I couldn't tell the exact color of the skin, but each had a pronounced muzzle.
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skin, but each had a pronounced muzzle.
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skin, but each had a pronounced muzzle. The long tails are very prominent and
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The long tails are very prominent and
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The long tails are very prominent and swiftly swayed back and forth as they
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swiftly swayed back and forth as they
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swiftly swayed back and forth as they moved forward. The arms and legs were
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moved forward. The arms and legs were
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moved forward. The arms and legs were massive. I could detect the musculature
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massive. I could detect the musculature
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massive. I could detect the musculature through the uniforms. There were voices
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through the uniforms. There were voices
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through the uniforms. There were voices also, as if they were talking to each
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also, as if they were talking to each
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also, as if they were talking to each other. The voices sounded human, though
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other. The voices sounded human, though
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other. The voices sounded human, though I could not detect the language.
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I could not detect the language.
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I could not detect the language. There were possibly 20 or more of these
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There were possibly 20 or more of these
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There were possibly 20 or more of these creatures as they walked single foul
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creatures as they walked single foul
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creatures as they walked single foul through the chamber and into the other
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through the chamber and into the other
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through the chamber and into the other opening.
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Then, when I conceded it was safe to
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Then, when I conceded it was safe to
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Then, when I conceded it was safe to move, I quickly withdrew from the cave.
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move, I quickly withdrew from the cave.
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move, I quickly withdrew from the cave. I may have been in shock because I
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I may have been in shock because I
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I may have been in shock because I barely remember anything that happened
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barely remember anything that happened
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barely remember anything that happened from that point until I reached my
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from that point until I reached my
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from that point until I reached my office. I decided to keep a private
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office. I decided to keep a private
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office. I decided to keep a private journal regarding my encounter, but I
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journal regarding my encounter, but I
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journal regarding my encounter, but I have not discussed it with anyone else.
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have not discussed it with anyone else.
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have not discussed it with anyone else. My colleague who initially found the
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My colleague who initially found the
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My colleague who initially found the cave told me that he explored the cave
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cave told me that he explored the cave
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cave told me that he explored the cave since my encounter. Still, he had never
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since my encounter. Still, he had never
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since my encounter. Still, he had never mentioned anything about the chamber,
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mentioned anything about the chamber,
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mentioned anything about the chamber, other passageways, and bizarre beings.
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other passageways, and bizarre beings.
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other passageways, and bizarre beings. At that point, I'm starting to doubt
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At that point, I'm starting to doubt
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At that point, I'm starting to doubt that I witnessed these creatures. Is it
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that I witnessed these creatures. Is it
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that I witnessed these creatures. Is it possible that I hallucinated this
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possible that I hallucinated this
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possible that I hallucinated this encounter or possibly experienced
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encounter or possibly experienced
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encounter or possibly experienced something from the past or the future?
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something from the past or the future?
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something from the past or the future? I'm a trained professional who deals
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I'm a trained professional who deals
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I'm a trained professional who deals with reality, but my beliefs have been
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with reality, but my beliefs have been
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with reality, but my beliefs have been seriously shaken.
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seriously shaken.
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seriously shaken. I appreciate your introspection and
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I appreciate your introspection and
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I appreciate your introspection and thoughts as well as the observation of
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thoughts as well as the observation of
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thoughts as well as the observation of your readers. Thank you, Greor. Well,
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your readers. Thank you, Greor. Well,
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your readers. Thank you, Greor. Well, the fact that Greor wondered if his
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the fact that Greor wondered if his
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the fact that Greor wondered if his encounter was a scene from another time
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encounter was a scene from another time
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encounter was a scene from another time in the past or the future suggests that
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in the past or the future suggests that
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in the past or the future suggests that he may have answered his own question. I
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he may have answered his own question. I
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he may have answered his own question. I don't know. I haven't heard back from
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don't know. I haven't heard back from
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don't know. I haven't heard back from Gregor over all that time. So, um I
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Gregor over all that time. So, um I
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Gregor over all that time. So, um I don't know.
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So, this next account, um
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So, this next account, um
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So, this next account, um I received uh it was May 2015. I
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I received uh it was May 2015. I
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I received uh it was May 2015. I received a telephone message from a
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received a telephone message from a
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received a telephone message from a woman in Muny, Indiana.
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woman in Muny, Indiana.
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woman in Muny, Indiana. She and a companion had witnessed a
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She and a companion had witnessed a
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She and a companion had witnessed a frightening and unexplained lizard-like
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frightening and unexplained lizard-like
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frightening and unexplained lizard-like humanoid while touring a cave in
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humanoid while touring a cave in
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humanoid while touring a cave in Harrison County, Indiana.
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Harrison County, Indiana.
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Harrison County, Indiana. I conducted two interviews with the
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I conducted two interviews with the
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I conducted two interviews with the witness whom I'll refer to as Gigi, and
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witness whom I'll refer to as Gigi, and
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witness whom I'll refer to as Gigi, and have listed the events described to me.
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have listed the events described to me.
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have listed the events described to me. Gigi is a Dominican national and her
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Gigi is a Dominican national and her
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Gigi is a Dominican national and her English is fair, but it was a bit of a
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English is fair, but it was a bit of a
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English is fair, but it was a bit of a challenge obtaining the information.
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challenge obtaining the information.
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challenge obtaining the information. So, I'm going to give you a
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So, I'm going to give you a
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So, I'm going to give you a chronological order as to what uh she
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chronological order as to what uh she
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chronological order as to what uh she told me uh and uh that's what I'll read
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told me uh and uh that's what I'll read
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told me uh and uh that's what I'll read from here on. It was Tuesday, August
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from here on. It was Tuesday, August
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from here on. It was Tuesday, August 26th, 2014, 2:30 p.m. during a tour at
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26th, 2014, 2:30 p.m. during a tour at
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26th, 2014, 2:30 p.m. during a tour at the Squire Boone Caverns in southern
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the Squire Boone Caverns in southern
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the Squire Boone Caverns in southern Indiana.
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Indiana.
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Indiana. The witness and her friend were with a
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The witness and her friend were with a
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The witness and her friend were with a group from Muny, Indiana. The cavern
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group from Muny, Indiana. The cavern
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group from Muny, Indiana. The cavern tour was part of the itinerary after
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tour was part of the itinerary after
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tour was part of the itinerary after spending the previous day shopping and
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spending the previous day shopping and
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spending the previous day shopping and touring Louisville, Kentucky.
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touring Louisville, Kentucky.
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touring Louisville, Kentucky. The tour had reached an area with many
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The tour had reached an area with many
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The tour had reached an area with many small underground waterfalls.
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small underground waterfalls.
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small underground waterfalls. There were a few large flat rocks on the
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There were a few large flat rocks on the
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There were a few large flat rocks on the right side of the waterfalls, including
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right side of the waterfalls, including
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right side of the waterfalls, including a few overhangs. Now, Gigi noticed that
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a few overhangs. Now, Gigi noticed that
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a few overhangs. Now, Gigi noticed that appeared to be a bright yellow eye
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appeared to be a bright yellow eye
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appeared to be a bright yellow eye shining from under one of the overhangs.
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shining from under one of the overhangs.
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shining from under one of the overhangs. She immediately got chills all over. Her
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She immediately got chills all over. Her
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She immediately got chills all over. Her friend asked what was she was looking
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friend asked what was she was looking
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friend asked what was she was looking at. So she pointed towards the rocks.
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at. So she pointed towards the rocks.
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at. So she pointed towards the rocks. She saw the same eye looking back at
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She saw the same eye looking back at
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She saw the same eye looking back at her. They stood there for about five
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her. They stood there for about five
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her. They stood there for about five minutes watching the eyes that appeared
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minutes watching the eyes that appeared
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minutes watching the eyes that appeared and disappeared.
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and disappeared.
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and disappeared. They were about 30 foot from the rock.
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They were about 30 foot from the rock.
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They were about 30 foot from the rock. There was movement as well, but it was
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There was movement as well, but it was
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There was movement as well, but it was different to make out because the
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different to make out because the
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different to make out because the lighting was dim or difficult to make
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lighting was dim or difficult to make
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lighting was dim or difficult to make out because the lighting was dim. Now,
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out because the lighting was dim. Now,
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out because the lighting was dim. Now, when the tour started to move on, Gigi
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when the tour started to move on, Gigi
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when the tour started to move on, Gigi looked back in the direction of the eye
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looked back in the direction of the eye
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looked back in the direction of the eye and saw something exit from under the
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and saw something exit from under the
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and saw something exit from under the overhang.
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overhang.
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overhang. She briefly stopped and watched. It
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She briefly stopped and watched. It
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She briefly stopped and watched. It crawled out onto the open rock surface
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crawled out onto the open rock surface
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crawled out onto the open rock surface and then stood up on its back legs.
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and then stood up on its back legs.
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and then stood up on its back legs. Almost immediately, it scured away in
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Almost immediately, it scured away in
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Almost immediately, it scured away in another crevice in the rock. It looked
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another crevice in the rock. It looked
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another crevice in the rock. It looked like a lizard of some kind. It had short
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like a lizard of some kind. It had short
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like a lizard of some kind. It had short tail with that was dark in color. The
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tail with that was dark in color. The
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tail with that was dark in color. The arms and legs were long, almost
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arms and legs were long, almost
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arms and legs were long, almost humanlike. Gigi thinks it was about 1
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humanlike. Gigi thinks it was about 1
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humanlike. Gigi thinks it was about 1 and 1/2t in height.
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and 1/2t in height.
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and 1/2t in height. She quickly rejoined the group but
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She quickly rejoined the group but
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She quickly rejoined the group but continued to watch behind her. Now, her
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continued to watch behind her. Now, her
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continued to watch behind her. Now, her friend did not see the lizard, but Gigi
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friend did not see the lizard, but Gigi
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friend did not see the lizard, but Gigi described it to her after they had got
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described it to her after they had got
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described it to her after they had got back to the bus.
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back to the bus.
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back to the bus. The friend gave her a uh Laura Zipan
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The friend gave her a uh Laura Zipan
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The friend gave her a uh Laura Zipan pill to keep her to calm her down. Gigi
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pill to keep her to calm her down. Gigi
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pill to keep her to calm her down. Gigi was shaking badly and others on the bus
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was shaking badly and others on the bus
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was shaking badly and others on the bus were noticing her. She did not mention
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were noticing her. She did not mention
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were noticing her. She did not mention what she saw to the other people in the
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what she saw to the other people in the
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what she saw to the other people in the group.
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group.
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group. The next day, Gigiville felt very ill.
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The next day, Gigiville felt very ill.
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The next day, Gigiville felt very ill. It may have been from the pill, but she
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It may have been from the pill, but she
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It may have been from the pill, but she thinks something happened to her
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thinks something happened to her
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thinks something happened to her physically and mentally because of what
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physically and mentally because of what
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physically and mentally because of what she saw. Gigi doesn't believe she was
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she saw. Gigi doesn't believe she was
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she saw. Gigi doesn't believe she was supposed to see that lizard being.
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supposed to see that lizard being.
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supposed to see that lizard being. Now,
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Now,
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Now, Gigi agreed to allow me to post some of
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Gigi agreed to allow me to post some of
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Gigi agreed to allow me to post some of the experience on the blog, uh, the
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the experience on the blog, uh, the
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the experience on the blog, uh, the sighting details and through personal
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sighting details and through personal
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sighting details and through personal information that also that that won't be
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information that also that that won't be
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information that also that that won't be disclosed.
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disclosed.
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disclosed. She's curious if others had seen
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She's curious if others had seen
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She's curious if others had seen something similar and if they did, what
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something similar and if they did, what
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something similar and if they did, what was the result?
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was the result?
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was the result? So, uh, could this been an underground
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So, uh, could this been an underground
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So, uh, could this been an underground population of Sorian humanoids, aliens
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population of Sorian humanoids, aliens
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population of Sorian humanoids, aliens on Earth? You know, I always go back to
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on Earth? You know, I always go back to
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on Earth? You know, I always go back to what David Ehart described to me over
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what David Ehart described to me over
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what David Ehart described to me over the years, um,
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the years, um,
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the years, um, are the really undergrounds of these
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are the really undergrounds of these
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are the really undergrounds of these beings.
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Now, a woman in southeast Ohio claimed
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Now, a woman in southeast Ohio claimed
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Now, a woman in southeast Ohio claimed that a tribe of Bigfoot would harass her
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that a tribe of Bigfoot would harass her
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that a tribe of Bigfoot would harass her and her family beginning in 1962.
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and her family beginning in 1962.
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and her family beginning in 1962. At one point, when she was 12 years old,
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At one point, when she was 12 years old,
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At one point, when she was 12 years old, she was held captive in a cave by the
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she was held captive in a cave by the
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she was held captive in a cave by the creatures. The woman, who is now in her
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creatures. The woman, who is now in her
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creatures. The woman, who is now in her early early 60s, requested to remain
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early early 60s, requested to remain
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early early 60s, requested to remain anonymous and not to reveal the location
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anonymous and not to reveal the location
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anonymous and not to reveal the location Appalachia, where the incidents
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Appalachia, where the incidents
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Appalachia, where the incidents occurred.
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occurred.
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occurred. She stated, "I prefer not to say where
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She stated, "I prefer not to say where
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She stated, "I prefer not to say where this took place specifically, but one
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this took place specifically, but one
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this took place specifically, but one wants but no one wants an invasion of
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wants but no one wants an invasion of
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wants but no one wants an invasion of Bigfoot hunters on private land.
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Bigfoot hunters on private land.
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Bigfoot hunters on private land. Let people go to the public lands like
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Let people go to the public lands like
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Let people go to the public lands like the Wayne National Forest to look for
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the Wayne National Forest to look for
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the Wayne National Forest to look for Bigfoot. People down in the hills love
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Bigfoot. People down in the hills love
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Bigfoot. People down in the hills love where they live because it's quiet.
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where they live because it's quiet.
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where they live because it's quiet. There's fresh air, clean water, great
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There's fresh air, clean water, great
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There's fresh air, clean water, great conditions for grazing gardens and
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conditions for grazing gardens and
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conditions for grazing gardens and children.
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children.
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children. and the beings in the thick of nature to
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and the beings in the thick of nature to
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and the beings in the thick of nature to see the wild animals up close is
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see the wild animals up close is
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see the wild animals up close is something that we all value very much.
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something that we all value very much.
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something that we all value very much. I'd read that people work harder on
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I'd read that people work harder on
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I'd read that people work harder on gathering the ma gathering the mountain
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gathering the ma gathering the mountain
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gathering the ma gathering the mountain of witnesses eyewitness reports and
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of witnesses eyewitness reports and
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of witnesses eyewitness reports and experience that have been hidden in the
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experience that have been hidden in the
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experience that have been hidden in the past decades in this state than uh see
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past decades in this state than uh see
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past decades in this state than uh see them destroy nature. Now according to
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them destroy nature. Now according to
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them destroy nature. Now according to her she wasn't the only one experiencing
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her she wasn't the only one experiencing
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her she wasn't the only one experiencing the encounter. She continued the
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the encounter. She continued the
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the encounter. She continued the creatures were witnessed in part by my
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creatures were witnessed in part by my
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creatures were witnessed in part by my parents. People do need to know that
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parents. People do need to know that
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parents. People do need to know that these things happen to me. It still
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these things happen to me. It still
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these things happen to me. It still pains me greatly, but at least I could
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pains me greatly, but at least I could
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pains me greatly, but at least I could talk about it now in some part though
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talk about it now in some part though
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talk about it now in some part though without anyone knowing who I am. People
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without anyone knowing who I am. People
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without anyone knowing who I am. People are ruthless.
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are ruthless.
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are ruthless. Now, the woman also said that the
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Now, the woman also said that the
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Now, the woman also said that the incidents happened too often to keep a
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incidents happened too often to keep a
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incidents happened too often to keep a record of them and that some of the
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record of them and that some of the
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record of them and that some of the neighbors had similar experiences,
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neighbors had similar experiences,
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neighbors had similar experiences, including some young boys fishing in a
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including some young boys fishing in a
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including some young boys fishing in a nearby river. Now, these events were
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nearby river. Now, these events were
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nearby river. Now, these events were supposedly uh reported to the local
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supposedly uh reported to the local
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supposedly uh reported to the local police. She also states that at one
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police. She also states that at one
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police. She also states that at one point the huge Bigfoot came back to take
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point the huge Bigfoot came back to take
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point the huge Bigfoot came back to take her and her father shot it with a 12-
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her and her father shot it with a 12-
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her and her father shot it with a 12- gauge shotgun. She says the big one that
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gauge shotgun. She says the big one that
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gauge shotgun. She says the big one that had always come to take me out of my
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had always come to take me out of my
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had always come to take me out of my bedroom at night came this time during
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bedroom at night came this time during
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bedroom at night came this time during the day. Dad was about 15 ft from it.
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the day. Dad was about 15 ft from it.
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the day. Dad was about 15 ft from it. The shot was hitting this thing and
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The shot was hitting this thing and
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The shot was hitting this thing and every time it hit, he stomped hard in
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every time it hit, he stomped hard in
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every time it hit, he stomped hard in the ground with one foot after the
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the ground with one foot after the
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the ground with one foot after the other. My brothers and I ran up to my
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other. My brothers and I ran up to my
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other. My brothers and I ran up to my bedroom because the youngest said it was
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bedroom because the youngest said it was
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bedroom because the youngest said it was higher ground for a better defense and
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higher ground for a better defense and
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higher ground for a better defense and they were more over in the farmer's
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they were more over in the farmer's
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they were more over in the farmer's drainage ditch across the road. They
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drainage ditch across the road. They
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drainage ditch across the road. They were huge, too.
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were huge, too.
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were huge, too. What do you do as a kid and you see
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What do you do as a kid and you see
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What do you do as a kid and you see something like that? Good thing my three
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something like that? Good thing my three
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something like that? Good thing my three brothers were there with me to help
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brothers were there with me to help
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brothers were there with me to help protect me. I yelled to I yelled to them
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protect me. I yelled to I yelled to them
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protect me. I yelled to I yelled to them to leave or they would be hurt. They
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to leave or they would be hurt. They
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to leave or they would be hurt. They finally left, but there were a lot of
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finally left, but there were a lot of
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finally left, but there were a lot of days when we could could not leave our
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days when we could could not leave our
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days when we could could not leave our three acres. My brothers wanted to go
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three acres. My brothers wanted to go
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three acres. My brothers wanted to go check on the neighbors to see if they
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check on the neighbors to see if they
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check on the neighbors to see if they were okay or needed help. Now, she
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were okay or needed help. Now, she
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were okay or needed help. Now, she claims that the Bigfoot were of
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claims that the Bigfoot were of
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claims that the Bigfoot were of different sizes, male and female, but
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different sizes, male and female, but
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different sizes, male and female, but that the biggest one was 14 foot male
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that the biggest one was 14 foot male
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that the biggest one was 14 foot male with a head that was at least the size
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with a head that was at least the size
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with a head that was at least the size of a basketball.
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of a basketball.
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of a basketball. She says his hair was long and about the
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She says his hair was long and about the
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She says his hair was long and about the same texture as mine. As I recall, the
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same texture as mine. As I recall, the
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same texture as mine. As I recall, the hair on all of them was about the same
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hair on all of them was about the same
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hair on all of them was about the same shade of brown, like the color of a
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shade of brown, like the color of a
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shade of brown, like the color of a decomposed wood layer in the forest.
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decomposed wood layer in the forest.
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decomposed wood layer in the forest. I could see tan skin around its eyes and
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I could see tan skin around its eyes and
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I could see tan skin around its eyes and on its face, especially where it was
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on its face, especially where it was
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on its face, especially where it was facial hair. It was sparser with glimps
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facial hair. It was sparser with glimps
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facial hair. It was sparser with glimps of skin showing through that that area
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of skin showing through that that area
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of skin showing through that that area as well. I couldn't make out a neck. It
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as well. I couldn't make out a neck. It
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as well. I couldn't make out a neck. It chin was broad and his teeth were about
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chin was broad and his teeth were about
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chin was broad and his teeth were about the size of the nail on my middle
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the size of the nail on my middle
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the size of the nail on my middle finger, but they were flatter. and he
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finger, but they were flatter. and he
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finger, but they were flatter. and he had a mouth full of them, meaning that
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had a mouth full of them, meaning that
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had a mouth full of them, meaning that the width of his bite was wide. His
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the width of his bite was wide. His
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the width of his bite was wide. His mouth was wide enough to show them all
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mouth was wide enough to show them all
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mouth was wide enough to show them all of them. His eyes were dark with some
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of them. His eyes were dark with some
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of them. His eyes were dark with some white around them, less so than human
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white around them, less so than human
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white around them, less so than human eyes. There were crows feet at the
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eyes. There were crows feet at the
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eyes. There were crows feet at the opposite end of them. His skin was
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opposite end of them. His skin was
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opposite end of them. His skin was weathered like a farmer who spent a lot
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weathered like a farmer who spent a lot
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weathered like a farmer who spent a lot of time outside.
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of time outside.
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of time outside. His shoulders were vast, though I did
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His shoulders were vast, though I did
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His shoulders were vast, though I did see his collarbone on one side, which
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see his collarbone on one side, which
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see his collarbone on one side, which looked thick compared to a humans. He
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looked thick compared to a humans. He
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looked thick compared to a humans. He was muscular and heavily built
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was muscular and heavily built
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was muscular and heavily built but in no way fat.
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but in no way fat.
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but in no way fat. There were adult fe there were there
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There were adult fe there were there
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There were adult fe there were there were adult female and others who uh were
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were adult female and others who uh were
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were adult female and others who uh were also as big as the female but didn't
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also as big as the female but didn't
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also as big as the female but didn't seem to be young or old.
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seem to be young or old.
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seem to be young or old. I don't know if they were all related
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I don't know if they were all related
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I don't know if they were all related but they seemed to be a close-knit
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but they seemed to be a close-knit
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but they seemed to be a close-knit group.
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group.
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group. So, there was an adult male and female
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So, there was an adult male and female
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So, there was an adult male and female who seemed to be a couple, and the
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who seemed to be a couple, and the
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who seemed to be a couple, and the others who seemed to have maturity and
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others who seemed to have maturity and
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others who seemed to have maturity and body mass suggested that they were all
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body mass suggested that they were all
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body mass suggested that they were all or what you'd consider 40something
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or what you'd consider 40something
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or what you'd consider 40something humans. Other than that, I can't tell
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humans. Other than that, I can't tell
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humans. Other than that, I can't tell what age any of them were. Now, the
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what age any of them were. Now, the
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what age any of them were. Now, the woman described being taken captive. She
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woman described being taken captive. She
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woman described being taken captive. She says, "Many of my memories of these
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says, "Many of my memories of these
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says, "Many of my memories of these creatures were so traumatic that my mind
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creatures were so traumatic that my mind
42:54
creatures were so traumatic that my mind hid them from me. I have no idea what
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hid them from me. I have no idea what
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hid them from me. I have no idea what else I've experienced with them in my
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else I've experienced with them in my
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else I've experienced with them in my childhood yet. You see, the memories are
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childhood yet. You see, the memories are
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childhood yet. You see, the memories are still popping up on the surface. And
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still popping up on the surface. And
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still popping up on the surface. And I've got to tell you, it's it's not a
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I've got to tell you, it's it's not a
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I've got to tell you, it's it's not a pleasant thing to know that you've been
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pleasant thing to know that you've been
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pleasant thing to know that you've been taken innumerable times by these
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taken innumerable times by these
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taken innumerable times by these creatures across many hills far from
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creatures across many hills far from
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creatures across many hills far from your home. I have no idea what
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your home. I have no idea what
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your home. I have no idea what transpired while I was with them, but
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transpired while I was with them, but
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transpired while I was with them, but each time they took me, I was out all
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each time they took me, I was out all
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each time they took me, I was out all night long.
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night long.
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night long. She suffered in other ways as well. She
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She suffered in other ways as well. She
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She suffered in other ways as well. She said, "I was being used in a tugof-war
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said, "I was being used in a tugof-war
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said, "I was being used in a tugof-war and neither side was winning. Certain
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and neither side was winning. Certain
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and neither side was winning. Certain people at the nearby churches were told
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people at the nearby churches were told
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people at the nearby churches were told what was going on. So they they take me
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what was going on. So they they take me
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what was going on. So they they take me aside and anoint me with oil and lay
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aside and anoint me with oil and lay
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aside and anoint me with oil and lay hands on me, praying out loud. And all I
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hands on me, praying out loud. And all I
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hands on me, praying out loud. And all I wanted to do was lie down and go to
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wanted to do was lie down and go to
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wanted to do was lie down and go to sleep from that circus.
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sleep from that circus.
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sleep from that circus. I was confined to the house for weeks,
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I was confined to the house for weeks,
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I was confined to the house for weeks, not being allowed to look out any
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not being allowed to look out any
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not being allowed to look out any windows."
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windows."
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windows." Now, she states that most of the time
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Now, she states that most of the time
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Now, she states that most of the time her captivity was peaceful, but
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her captivity was peaceful, but
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her captivity was peaceful, but occasionally the creatures became
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occasionally the creatures became
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occasionally the creatures became violent. She said, "I was probably
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violent. She said, "I was probably
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violent. She said, "I was probably around 12 when I woke up underground in
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around 12 when I woke up underground in
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around 12 when I woke up underground in a cave that was dripping water from
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a cave that was dripping water from
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a cave that was dripping water from roots I could see stretched out below
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roots I could see stretched out below
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roots I could see stretched out below the ground." You can't imagine the
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the ground." You can't imagine the
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the ground." You can't imagine the horror. I was screaming my lungs out,
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horror. I was screaming my lungs out,
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horror. I was screaming my lungs out, and after a while, I ran out of force to
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and after a while, I ran out of force to
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and after a while, I ran out of force to make any sounds, but the air kept coming
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make any sounds, but the air kept coming
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make any sounds, but the air kept coming out of me. I could see these creatures
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out of me. I could see these creatures
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out of me. I could see these creatures surrounding me as I lay there.
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surrounding me as I lay there.
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surrounding me as I lay there. unable to move on this great slab of
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unable to move on this great slab of
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unable to move on this great slab of rock. I wanted badly to scream some
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rock. I wanted badly to scream some
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rock. I wanted badly to scream some more, but it was just too I was just too
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more, but it was just too I was just too
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more, but it was just too I was just too tired to do anymore. When I relaxed,
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tired to do anymore. When I relaxed,
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tired to do anymore. When I relaxed, they all started smiling and laughing. I
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they all started smiling and laughing. I
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they all started smiling and laughing. I thought, "Okay, they could have killed
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thought, "Okay, they could have killed
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thought, "Okay, they could have killed me and eaten me, but they didn't." Some
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me and eaten me, but they didn't." Some
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me and eaten me, but they didn't." Some of them were kind, but then again, I'd
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of them were kind, but then again, I'd
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of them were kind, but then again, I'd seen cats play with mice for hours
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seen cats play with mice for hours
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seen cats play with mice for hours before killing and eating them.
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before killing and eating them.
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before killing and eating them. She says that she remembers everything
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She says that she remembers everything
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She says that she remembers everything clearly and so does her family. She says
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clearly and so does her family. She says
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clearly and so does her family. She says these are not childhood nightmares as
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these are not childhood nightmares as
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these are not childhood nightmares as evidenced by the incident that took
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evidenced by the incident that took
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evidenced by the incident that took place around the time I was 12 or 13.
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place around the time I was 12 or 13.
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place around the time I was 12 or 13. Mom asked me questions each time he the
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Mom asked me questions each time he the
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Mom asked me questions each time he the bigfoot came back to my window and took
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bigfoot came back to my window and took
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bigfoot came back to my window and took me with him. He took me with his he took
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me with him. He took me with his he took
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me with him. He took me with his he took me with him many times. After talking to
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me with him many times. After talking to
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me with him many times. After talking to me to get me to tell the big guy not to
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me to get me to tell the big guy not to
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me to get me to tell the big guy not to take me with him and that they told me
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take me with him and that they told me
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take me with him and that they told me to tell him no, I was go I was going and
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to tell him no, I was go I was going and
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to tell him no, I was go I was going and that not and that not seemed to work but
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that not and that not seemed to work but
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that not and that not seemed to work but pretty much gave up asking me anything.
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pretty much gave up asking me anything.
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pretty much gave up asking me anything. She did talk to dad about how to stop
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She did talk to dad about how to stop
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She did talk to dad about how to stop this from happening as she thought it
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this from happening as she thought it
45:29
this from happening as she thought it was affecting my health and robbing us
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was affecting my health and robbing us
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was affecting my health and robbing us of our sleep.
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of our sleep.
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of our sleep. There was the concern that they did the
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There was the concern that they did the
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There was the concern that they did the wrong thing. This creature could kill
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wrong thing. This creature could kill
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wrong thing. This creature could kill anyone in the house. Mom often wept to
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anyone in the house. Mom often wept to
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anyone in the house. Mom often wept to my older sisters about this thing, big
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my older sisters about this thing, big
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my older sisters about this thing, big hairy thing that got into the K chicken
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hairy thing that got into the K chicken
45:47
hairy thing that got into the K chicken coop and how she needed their help to
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coop and how she needed their help to
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coop and how she needed their help to convince dad to something to do
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convince dad to something to do
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convince dad to something to do something to stop this before someone
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something to stop this before someone
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something to stop this before someone got hurt.
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got hurt.
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got hurt. She told them not to go near me and told
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She told them not to go near me and told
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She told them not to go near me and told me not to go near them. She was quite
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me not to go near them. She was quite
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me not to go near them. She was quite fearful and I can't blame her.
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fearful and I can't blame her.
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fearful and I can't blame her. Then the family decided to move her bed
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Then the family decided to move her bed
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Then the family decided to move her bed downstairs, but this appeared to
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downstairs, but this appeared to
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downstairs, but this appeared to frustrate the large male Bigfoot.
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frustrate the large male Bigfoot.
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frustrate the large male Bigfoot. Anyway, she said, "I remember hearing
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Anyway, she said, "I remember hearing
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Anyway, she said, "I remember hearing him pecking at my window upstairs, but I
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him pecking at my window upstairs, but I
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him pecking at my window upstairs, but I was strictly forbidding forbidden for
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was strictly forbidding forbidden for
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was strictly forbidding forbidden for leaving the area for any reason. He
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leaving the area for any reason. He
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leaving the area for any reason. He banged on the side of the house, and dad
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banged on the side of the house, and dad
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banged on the side of the house, and dad would yell at him to go away, that he
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would yell at him to go away, that he
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would yell at him to go away, that he wasn't going to see me anymore." And
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wasn't going to see me anymore." And
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wasn't going to see me anymore." And that that was that.
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that that was that.
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that that was that. He made these loud grunts and stomped on
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He made these loud grunts and stomped on
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He made these loud grunts and stomped on the ground to show his displeasure. I'd
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the ground to show his displeasure. I'd
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the ground to show his displeasure. I'd heard his thoughts in my head as if we
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heard his thoughts in my head as if we
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heard his thoughts in my head as if we they were ask uh he were asking where I
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they were ask uh he were asking where I
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they were ask uh he were asking where I was. Now, one day when I was 19, we were
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was. Now, one day when I was 19, we were
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was. Now, one day when I was 19, we were on my parents' front stoop talking.
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on my parents' front stoop talking.
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on my parents' front stoop talking. Before I left, there was this very long,
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Before I left, there was this very long,
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Before I left, there was this very long, deafening, deep scream like a man was
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deafening, deep scream like a man was
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deafening, deep scream like a man was getting murdered up the road in the
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getting murdered up the road in the
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getting murdered up the road in the woods.
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woods.
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woods. Sound did carry especially on cold
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Sound did carry especially on cold
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Sound did carry especially on cold nights, but this had excessive volume to
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nights, but this had excessive volume to
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nights, but this had excessive volume to it and no one human could have ever held
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it and no one human could have ever held
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it and no one human could have ever held a fullon scream that long. I thought
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a fullon scream that long. I thought
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a fullon scream that long. I thought someone was being heard up there and my
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someone was being heard up there and my
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someone was being heard up there and my dad refused to call the sheriff's office
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dad refused to call the sheriff's office
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dad refused to call the sheriff's office to report it. I thought my dad had lost
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to report it. I thought my dad had lost
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to report it. I thought my dad had lost it.
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it.
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it. But she says she called the sheriff when
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But she says she called the sheriff when
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But she says she called the sheriff when she returned home. She said, 'The thing
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she returned home. She said, 'The thing
47:22
she returned home. She said, 'The thing the things that they said made me wonder
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the things that they said made me wonder
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the things that they said made me wonder if they were scared of the woods. I
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if they were scared of the woods. I
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if they were scared of the woods. I asked if they couldn't look for vehicle
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asked if they couldn't look for vehicle
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asked if they couldn't look for vehicle tracks or bootprints up that lane to the
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tracks or bootprints up that lane to the
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tracks or bootprints up that lane to the gate, and they finally said that they'd
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gate, and they finally said that they'd
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gate, and they finally said that they'd go down there the next day to check.
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go down there the next day to check.
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go down there the next day to check. Now, they appreciated that I described
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Now, they appreciated that I described
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Now, they appreciated that I described the place, and it helped them feel more
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the place, and it helped them feel more
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the place, and it helped them feel more at ease. They kept saying the station
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at ease. They kept saying the station
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at ease. They kept saying the station policy was not to go into the woods for
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policy was not to go into the woods for
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policy was not to go into the woods for any reason.
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any reason.
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any reason. The neighbors and the other kids at
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The neighbors and the other kids at
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The neighbors and the other kids at school also spoke of their encounters.
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school also spoke of their encounters.
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school also spoke of their encounters. She said, "We weren't talking about our
47:56
She said, "We weren't talking about our
47:56
She said, "We weren't talking about our experiences with them, but we were
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experiences with them, but we were
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experiences with them, but we were listening to what the others were having
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listening to what the others were having
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listening to what the others were having to deal with at their places. They
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to deal with at their places. They
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to deal with at their places. They called them monsters, creatures, monkey
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called them monsters, creatures, monkey
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called them monsters, creatures, monkey men, giants, etc. We listened to what
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men, giants, etc. We listened to what
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men, giants, etc. We listened to what other neighbors would tell us about them
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other neighbors would tell us about them
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other neighbors would tell us about them because they thought no one was likely
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because they thought no one was likely
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because they thought no one was likely to believe kids who heard it and passed
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to believe kids who heard it and passed
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to believe kids who heard it and passed it on." The neighbors next door never
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it on." The neighbors next door never
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it on." The neighbors next door never spoke about their experience.
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spoke about their experience.
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spoke about their experience. The woman also added, "Many times I've
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The woman also added, "Many times I've
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The woman also added, "Many times I've read authors saying that they wish they
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read authors saying that they wish they
48:23
read authors saying that they wish they knew they wish the that they would share
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knew they wish the that they would share
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knew they wish the that they would share what they know about the world." Well,
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what they know about the world." Well,
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what they know about the world." Well, that's why I've shared this. Talking
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that's why I've shared this. Talking
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that's why I've shared this. Talking about these things has not been easy. I
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about these things has not been easy. I
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about these things has not been easy. I hope it brings awareness to the
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hope it brings awareness to the
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hope it brings awareness to the suffering of experiencers and witnesses
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suffering of experiencers and witnesses
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suffering of experiencers and witnesses and allows them to speak openly about
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and allows them to speak openly about
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and allows them to speak openly about what has happened to them. Unless we all
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what has happened to them. Unless we all
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what has happened to them. Unless we all speak the truth, the world won't know
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speak the truth, the world won't know
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speak the truth, the world won't know what's being hidden and continues to be
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what's being hidden and continues to be
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what's being hidden and continues to be hidden from us.
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hidden from us.
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hidden from us. Do we want future generations to carry
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Do we want future generations to carry
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Do we want future generations to carry on living the same lie? Our world is
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on living the same lie? Our world is
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on living the same lie? Our world is richer and more interesting than most
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richer and more interesting than most
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richer and more interesting than most people would ever imagine. These are not
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people would ever imagine. These are not
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people would ever imagine. These are not just creatures. They are quite
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just creatures. They are quite
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just creatures. They are quite intelligent and resourceful enough to
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intelligent and resourceful enough to
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intelligent and resourceful enough to keep from being caught or killed.
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keep from being caught or killed.
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keep from being caught or killed. So, that was the last account, folks.
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So, that was the last account, folks.
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So, that was the last account, folks. You got any questions?
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You got any questions?
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You got any questions? Put them in the chat. All caps, please.
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Put them in the chat. All caps, please.
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Put them in the chat. All caps, please. Got a nice crowd in here tonight as
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Got a nice crowd in here tonight as
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Got a nice crowd in here tonight as well.
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I know that last account was a bit drawn
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I know that last account was a bit drawn
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I know that last account was a bit drawn out, kind of hard to read as well, but
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out, kind of hard to read as well, but
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out, kind of hard to read as well, but uh
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uh
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uh you know, you hear things like that, you
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you know, you hear things like that, you
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you know, you hear things like that, you wonder how real are those encounters? I
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wonder how real are those encounters? I
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wonder how real are those encounters? I mean,
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and I see John has put in here, I heard
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and I see John has put in here, I heard
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and I see John has put in here, I heard reptilians came out of the sewers during
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reptilians came out of the sewers during
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reptilians came out of the sewers during Hurricane Katrina. Thanks, Lon. Um,
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Hurricane Katrina. Thanks, Lon. Um,
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Hurricane Katrina. Thanks, Lon. Um, I had I had done a series of encounter
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I had I had done a series of encounter
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I had I had done a series of encounter reports from a former
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reports from a former
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reports from a former New Orleans police officer
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New Orleans police officer
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New Orleans police officer who um who's now living in Chicago that
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who um who's now living in Chicago that
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who um who's now living in Chicago that swears that he was he encountered
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swears that he was he encountered
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swears that he was he encountered reptilian beings right after Katrina.
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reptilian beings right after Katrina.
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reptilian beings right after Katrina. You know, he has sent me countless
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You know, he has sent me countless
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You know, he has sent me countless encounters and experiences he has had.
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encounters and experiences he has had.
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encounters and experiences he has had. One day I'll go ahead and pull all them
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One day I'll go ahead and pull all them
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One day I'll go ahead and pull all them back out and and either put them in a
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back out and and either put them in a
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back out and and either put them in a post, a couple posts, or even talk about
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post, a couple posts, or even talk about
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post, a couple posts, or even talk about them on on the radio show. But um it's
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them on on the radio show. But um it's
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them on on the radio show. But um it's uh it's quite a story. And you know,
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uh it's quite a story. And you know,
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uh it's quite a story. And you know, also, you know, I've talked to Dark
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also, you know, I've talked to Dark
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also, you know, I've talked to Dark Waters many times about this because he
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Waters many times about this because he
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Waters many times about this because he lives in New Orleans. He's heard a lot
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lives in New Orleans. He's heard a lot
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lives in New Orleans. He's heard a lot of stuff. So, um
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of stuff. So, um
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of stuff. So, um he's talked about this as well. So, who
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he's talked about this as well. So, who
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he's talked about this as well. So, who knows?
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Dagnamit,
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Dagnamit,
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Dagnamit, how do you think there would be lighting
50:58
how do you think there would be lighting
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how do you think there would be lighting in a golf cart in a cave from reptoids?
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in a golf cart in a cave from reptoids?
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in a golf cart in a cave from reptoids? I have no idea. I mean, was it a
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I have no idea. I mean, was it a
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I have no idea. I mean, was it a facility behind the rock face? I I don't
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facility behind the rock face? I I don't
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facility behind the rock face? I I don't know.
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know.
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know. Was there an opening on the other side
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Was there an opening on the other side
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Was there an opening on the other side for these scenes to get through? Was
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for these scenes to get through? Was
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for these scenes to get through? Was this something involved the government
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this something involved the government
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this something involved the government or I mean, the government did close it
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or I mean, the government did close it
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or I mean, the government did close it off after a while, so I don't know what
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off after a while, so I don't know what
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off after a while, so I don't know what he saw.
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he saw.
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he saw. He seemed very credible though to me.
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Nicola
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ASMR. I wonder if technology advances
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ASMR. I wonder if technology advances
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ASMR. I wonder if technology advances alter or increases reports behavior of
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alter or increases reports behavior of
51:36
alter or increases reports behavior of these beings. I I think to a degree they
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these beings. I I think to a degree they
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these beings. I I think to a degree they may. Um,
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may. Um,
51:42
may. Um, but I I I think as more people come
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but I I I think as more people come
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but I I I think as more people come forward and talk about these
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forward and talk about these
51:46
forward and talk about these experiences,
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experiences,
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experiences, I think it's becoming more mainstream.
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I think it's becoming more mainstream.
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I think it's becoming more mainstream. People are look
51:53
People are look
51:53
People are look 20 years ago, I wouldn't get stories
51:55
20 years ago, I wouldn't get stories
51:55
20 years ago, I wouldn't get stories like this come to me. I mean, people
51:57
like this come to me. I mean, people
51:57
like this come to me. I mean, people just did not talk about them.
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just did not talk about them.
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just did not talk about them. So uh but there may be something as far
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So uh but there may be something as far
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So uh but there may be something as far as technology, people understanding
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as technology, people understanding
52:04
as technology, people understanding technology and other stuff, but I think
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technology and other stuff, but I think
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technology and other stuff, but I think people are just less inhibited about
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people are just less inhibited about
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people are just less inhibited about coming forward and talking about these
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coming forward and talking about these
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coming forward and talking about these encounters.
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Jose Sanchez Lon have Pomper Pomeberos
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Jose Sanchez Lon have Pomper Pomeberos
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Jose Sanchez Lon have Pomper Pomeberos ever been involved in inner earth
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ever been involved in inner earth
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ever been involved in inner earth stories? They just seem to appear on
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stories? They just seem to appear on
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stories? They just seem to appear on rural roads or small towns in Central
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rural roads or small towns in Central
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rural roads or small towns in Central and South America. I don't know. I've
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and South America. I don't know. I've
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and South America. I don't know. I've I've heard a lot of stories from down in
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I've heard a lot of stories from down in
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I've heard a lot of stories from down in uh in South America and Central America,
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uh in South America and Central America,
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uh in South America and Central America, but um
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but um
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but um and honestly some of the accounts that
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and honestly some of the accounts that
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and honestly some of the accounts that come from those regions are much
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come from those regions are much
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come from those regions are much different than we get up here in North
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different than we get up here in North
52:45
different than we get up here in North America. So, um I don't I don't know. Is
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America. So, um I don't I don't know. Is
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America. So, um I don't I don't know. Is it something? Could they be alien
52:50
it something? Could they be alien
52:50
it something? Could they be alien beings? Could it be something that we
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beings? Could it be something that we
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beings? Could it be something that we just don't know about?
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just don't know about?
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just don't know about? It's hard to tell. But um
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you know I don't get a whole lot of
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you know I don't get a whole lot of
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you know I don't get a whole lot of inner earth stories but occasionally I
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inner earth stories but occasionally I
53:03
inner earth stories but occasionally I will get one and uh
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will get one and uh
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will get one and uh many of them have come from South
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many of them have come from South
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many of them have come from South America but they're usually pretty
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America but they're usually pretty
53:10
America but they're usually pretty brief.
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And of course the the media down there
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And of course the the media down there
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And of course the the media down there as well
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as well
53:18
as well they they have no issue about printing
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they they have no issue about printing
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they they have no issue about printing these these stories also. So, um, you
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these these stories also. So, um, you
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these these stories also. So, um, you can almost find something very
53:27
can almost find something very
53:27
can almost find something very outrageous and very similar that being
53:29
outrageous and very similar that being
53:29
outrageous and very similar that being reported out every week or so. So, um,
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reported out every week or so. So, um,
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reported out every week or so. So, um, but I do have I I do have some sources
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but I do have I I do have some sources
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but I do have I I do have some sources that come in to me occasionally.
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Can do you think government underground
53:44
Can do you think government underground
53:44
Can do you think government underground tunnels have anything to do with
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tunnels have anything to do with
53:46
tunnels have anything to do with underground beings?
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underground beings?
53:49
underground beings? There have been accounts um where people
53:53
There have been accounts um where people
53:53
There have been accounts um where people have been in undergrounds, government
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have been in undergrounds, government
53:56
have been in undergrounds, government undergrounds or
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undergrounds or
53:58
undergrounds or you know municipal undergrounds
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you know municipal undergrounds
54:00
you know municipal undergrounds especially in Missouri where um people
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especially in Missouri where um people
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especially in Missouri where um people have encountered these beings or
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have encountered these beings or
54:06
have encountered these beings or something unknown that's described as
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something unknown that's described as
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something unknown that's described as either being reptilian or humanoid.
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either being reptilian or humanoid.
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either being reptilian or humanoid. Um
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I I think it does have something to do
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I I think it does have something to do
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I I think it does have something to do with it. why it is. Are they in cahoots
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with it. why it is. Are they in cahoots
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with it. why it is. Are they in cahoots with the government? Possibly. You think
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with the government? Possibly. You think
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with the government? Possibly. You think if they weren't, they root them out of
54:25
if they weren't, they root them out of
54:25
if they weren't, they root them out of there, but apparently there there's a
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there, but apparently there there's a
54:27
there, but apparently there there's a connection somehow.
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Damn it. Have you ever heard of a rang a
54:37
Damn it. Have you ever heard of a rang a
54:37
Damn it. Have you ever heard of a rang a kangaroo horse?
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kangaroo horse?
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kangaroo horse? No, I haven't. That's the first time
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No, I haven't. That's the first time
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No, I haven't. That's the first time I've heard that.
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I've heard that.
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I've heard that. If you have any stories concerning that,
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If you have any stories concerning that,
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If you have any stories concerning that, please send them to me. Can's quatch. Do
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please send them to me. Can's quatch. Do
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please send them to me. Can's quatch. Do you think underground aliens have lived
54:52
you think underground aliens have lived
54:52
you think underground aliens have lived underground for as long as man has been
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underground for as long as man has been
54:54
underground for as long as man has been here?
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here?
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here? Honestly,
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Honestly,
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Honestly, possibly.
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possibly.
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possibly. Possibly. You know, you go back in time
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Possibly. You know, you go back in time
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Possibly. You know, you go back in time and
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and
55:04
and hear legends and stuff of undergrounds.
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hear legends and stuff of undergrounds.
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hear legends and stuff of undergrounds. Even even the the indigenous people used
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Even even the the indigenous people used
55:09
Even even the the indigenous people used to talk about the ant people and and
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to talk about the ant people and and
55:10
to talk about the ant people and and other creatures that lived underground
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other creatures that lived underground
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other creatures that lived underground and that they dealt with. I mean, it
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and that they dealt with. I mean, it
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and that they dealt with. I mean, it very well could have been. I mean, how
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very well could have been. I mean, how
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very well could have been. I mean, how far back? I don't know. But, uh, a lot
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far back? I don't know. But, uh, a lot
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far back? I don't know. But, uh, a lot of the lore,
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of the lore,
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of the lore, you know, you you do read about and hear
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you know, you you do read about and hear
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you know, you you do read about and hear about even in some of the pictographs
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about even in some of the pictographs
55:29
about even in some of the pictographs and such, you see these illustrations of
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and such, you see these illustrations of
55:31
and such, you see these illustrations of these beings.
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these beings.
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these beings. I don't know how true it is, but
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I don't know how true it is, but
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I don't know how true it is, but I guess it's to be left to each one's
55:41
I guess it's to be left to each one's
55:41
I guess it's to be left to each one's individual imagination as to what they
55:43
individual imagination as to what they
55:44
individual imagination as to what they really are.
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Jose Sanchez, have you ever seen the
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Jose Sanchez, have you ever seen the
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Jose Sanchez, have you ever seen the video of really tiny people or beings
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video of really tiny people or beings
55:54
video of really tiny people or beings crossing roads? Not sure if they were
55:56
crossing roads? Not sure if they were
55:56
crossing roads? Not sure if they were even real? I I've seen I've seen some
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even real? I I've seen I've seen some
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even real? I I've seen I've seen some images. I mean, in some video,
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images. I mean, in some video,
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images. I mean, in some video, especially down from Hispanic America,
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especially down from Hispanic America,
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especially down from Hispanic America, down in South America in Central
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down in South America in Central
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down in South America in Central America.
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America.
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America. >> Hold on a second, folks. I'm sorry.
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>> Hold on a second, folks. I'm sorry.
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>> Hold on a second, folks. I'm sorry. >> Not sure if they were even real. I I've
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>> Not sure if they were even real. I I've
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>> Not sure if they were even real. I I've seen
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Sorry about that.
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This is my uh
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blood sugar. Um, alarm just went off.
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blood sugar. Um, alarm just went off.
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blood sugar. Um, alarm just went off. Anyway, I hope that doesn't go off
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Anyway, I hope that doesn't go off
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Anyway, I hope that doesn't go off again.
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again.
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again. Anyway, sorry about that. Next question.
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Paula asks, Lon, do you think elementals
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Paula asks, Lon, do you think elementals
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Paula asks, Lon, do you think elementals could account for any of these
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could account for any of these
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could account for any of these sightings? Yeah, I I I think it's
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sightings? Yeah, I I I think it's
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sightings? Yeah, I I I think it's possible. Um,
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possible. Um,
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possible. Um, yeah, it just I guess depends on what
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yeah, it just I guess depends on what
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yeah, it just I guess depends on what you consider to be elementals. I mean,
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you consider to be elementals. I mean,
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you consider to be elementals. I mean, you know, people have a lot of different
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you know, people have a lot of different
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you know, people have a lot of different descriptions or thoughts about what they
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descriptions or thoughts about what they
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descriptions or thoughts about what they really are,
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really are,
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really are, but um
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but um
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but um yeah, it's entirely possible. I mean,
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yeah, it's entirely possible. I mean,
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yeah, it's entirely possible. I mean, you know, I I you know, not
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you know, I I you know, not
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you know, I I you know, not specifically, I don't know, but you
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specifically, I don't know, but you
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specifically, I don't know, but you know, you hear about a lot of different
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know, you hear about a lot of different
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know, you hear about a lot of different things. I mean, you know,
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things. I mean, you know,
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things. I mean, you know, are little people or these these FA or
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are little people or these these FA or
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are little people or these these FA or others are they are they elementals?
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others are they are they elementals?
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others are they are they elementals? Could they be considered elementals?
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Could they be considered elementals?
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Could they be considered elementals? Could they be part of something that we
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Could they be part of something that we
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Could they be part of something that we just don't understand or really know
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just don't understand or really know
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just don't understand or really know about? It's hard to tell, but uh yeah, I
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about? It's hard to tell, but uh yeah, I
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about? It's hard to tell, but uh yeah, I mean, if you if you want a general
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mean, if you if you want a general
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mean, if you if you want a general answer, absolutely. I think it's
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answer, absolutely. I think it's
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answer, absolutely. I think it's possible.
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Jose Sanchez, do you think that ancient
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Jose Sanchez, do you think that ancient
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Jose Sanchez, do you think that ancient Egyptians may have been very aware and
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Egyptians may have been very aware and
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Egyptians may have been very aware and maybe in contact with star beings? Oh,
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maybe in contact with star beings? Oh,
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maybe in contact with star beings? Oh, absolutely. I think I think a lot of um
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absolutely. I think I think a lot of um
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absolutely. I think I think a lot of um a lot of what is in their their lore and
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a lot of what is in their their lore and
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a lot of what is in their their lore and record possibly points toward
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record possibly points toward
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record possibly points toward involvement with extraterrestrials or
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involvement with extraterrestrials or
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involvement with extraterrestrials or other other worldly beings.
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other other worldly beings.
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other other worldly beings. I think it's entirely possible. I think
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I think it's entirely possible. I think
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I think it's entirely possible. I think I think most of what they uh had written
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I think most of what they uh had written
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I think most of what they uh had written about and made record of with their
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about and made record of with their
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about and made record of with their everyday life had some connection to
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everyday life had some connection to
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everyday life had some connection to these beings, these other worldly
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these beings, these other worldly
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these beings, these other worldly beings.
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Rachel.
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Oh, hi Rachel. I just talked to you
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Oh, hi Rachel. I just talked to you
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Oh, hi Rachel. I just talked to you today. Hi. We spoke about this today. Do
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today. Hi. We spoke about this today. Do
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today. Hi. We spoke about this today. Do you think many of these sightings are
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you think many of these sightings are
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you think many of these sightings are time slips or glimpses of other
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time slips or glimpses of other
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time slips or glimpses of other dimensions? Sure.
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dimensions? Sure.
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dimensions? Sure. Yeah, absolutely. It could very well
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Yeah, absolutely. It could very well
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Yeah, absolutely. It could very well could be. Um I've heard so many accounts
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could be. Um I've heard so many accounts
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could be. Um I've heard so many accounts about possible portals or time slips
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about possible portals or time slips
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about possible portals or time slips opening up
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opening up
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opening up and something unbelievable being seen
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and something unbelievable being seen
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and something unbelievable being seen and and quickly,
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and and quickly,
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and and quickly, you know, vanishing or even manifesting.
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you know, vanishing or even manifesting.
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you know, vanishing or even manifesting. So yeah, absolutely. It could be time
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So yeah, absolutely. It could be time
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So yeah, absolutely. It could be time slips, could be glitches.
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Can squatch any Pennsylvania underground
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Can squatch any Pennsylvania underground
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Can squatch any Pennsylvania underground Sasquatch encounters?
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Uh, offh hand. I can't think of any.
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Uh, offh hand. I can't think of any.
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Uh, offh hand. I can't think of any. I'm just trying to rack my brain. I
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I'm just trying to rack my brain. I
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I'm just trying to rack my brain. I don't think so. I that I can recall.
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don't think so. I that I can recall.
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don't think so. I that I can recall. That's an interesting question. I'll
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That's an interesting question. I'll
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That's an interesting question. I'll look. I'll look.
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look. I'll look.
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look. I'll look. get a lot of accounts out of
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get a lot of accounts out of
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get a lot of accounts out of Pennsylvania.
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Anything else, folks?
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Okay. Well, I want to thank each and all
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Okay. Well, I want to thank each and all
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Okay. Well, I want to thank each and all of you for uh watching and chatting. And
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of you for uh watching and chatting. And
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I will say I I did send the Glimmer Man
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I will say I I did send the Glimmer Man
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I will say I I did send the Glimmer Man book off to the editor this week. So,
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book off to the editor this week. So,
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book off to the editor this week. So, uh, we'll see how that goes. And when
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uh, we'll see how that goes. And when
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uh, we'll see how that goes. And when that starts getting close to being
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that starts getting close to being
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that starts getting close to being released, I will definitely let
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released, I will definitely let
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released, I will definitely let everybody know about it. So until we
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everybody know about it. So until we
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everybody know about it. So until we meet again, stay healthy, safe, have a
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meet again, stay healthy, safe, have a
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meet again, stay healthy, safe, have a great weekend, and good night.
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