DEEP EARTH HORRORS! From Vietnam to Appalachia: UNDERGROUND ANOMALIES & REPTILIAN ENCOUNTERS

0:13
[Music]
0:31
[Music]
0:40
[Music]
0:50
[Music]
1:01
[Music]
1:03
[Music]
1:03
[Music] [Applause]
1:18
Hey, hey, hey.
1:53
[Music]
2:07
Hey folks, good evening and welcome to
2:09
Hey folks, good evening and welcome to
2:09
Hey folks, good evening and welcome to Phantoms of Monsters Radio, where the
2:11
Phantoms of Monsters Radio, where the
2:11
Phantoms of Monsters Radio, where the veil between the known and the unknown
2:13
veil between the known and the unknown
2:13
veil between the known and the unknown is lifted one story at a time. I welcome
2:16
is lifted one story at a time. I welcome
2:16
is lifted one story at a time. I welcome you and all our listeners, including
2:18
you and all our listeners, including
2:18
you and all our listeners, including first- timerrs in in chat. Um, I hope
2:21
first- timerrs in in chat. Um, I hope
2:21
first- timerrs in in chat. Um, I hope you find tonight's subject and reports
2:23
you find tonight's subject and reports
2:23
you find tonight's subject and reports interesting. Now, I I will say some of
2:27
interesting. Now, I I will say some of
2:27
interesting. Now, I I will say some of the accounts I'm going to talk about
2:28
the accounts I'm going to talk about
2:28
the accounts I'm going to talk about tonight, I have presented before. Um,
2:33
tonight, I have presented before. Um,
2:33
tonight, I have presented before. Um, but for some reason the past couple
2:35
but for some reason the past couple
2:35
but for some reason the past couple weeks there's been a an inundation of
2:38
weeks there's been a an inundation of
2:38
weeks there's been a an inundation of request for underground
2:41
request for underground
2:41
request for underground uh horrors or uh incidents of people
2:46
uh horrors or uh incidents of people
2:46
uh horrors or uh incidents of people seeing things under the ground or in
2:47
seeing things under the ground or in
2:48
seeing things under the ground or in caves and such. So I decided to go ahead
2:49
caves and such. So I decided to go ahead
2:49
caves and such. So I decided to go ahead and do it. But just warning you some of
2:52
and do it. But just warning you some of
2:52
and do it. But just warning you some of these I have talked about in the past.
2:55
these I have talked about in the past.
2:55
these I have talked about in the past. Now, for years, I've collected
2:57
Now, for years, I've collected
2:57
Now, for years, I've collected extraordinary eyewitness reports from
2:59
extraordinary eyewitness reports from
2:59
extraordinary eyewitness reports from across the globe. But few accounts
3:02
across the globe. But few accounts
3:02
across the globe. But few accounts compare to the chilling underground
3:04
compare to the chilling underground
3:04
compare to the chilling underground encounters you'll hear tonight. Now,
3:06
encounters you'll hear tonight. Now,
3:06
encounters you'll hear tonight. Now, from the jungles of Vietnam to the
3:09
from the jungles of Vietnam to the
3:09
from the jungles of Vietnam to the caverns of Missouri,
3:11
caverns of Missouri,
3:11
caverns of Missouri, from the deserts of Arizona to the
3:14
from the deserts of Arizona to the
3:14
from the deserts of Arizona to the mountains of a Austria, these stories
3:16
mountains of a Austria, these stories
3:16
mountains of a Austria, these stories reveal a hidden world beneath our feet,
3:19
reveal a hidden world beneath our feet,
3:19
reveal a hidden world beneath our feet, one inhabited by beings and phenomena
3:21
one inhabited by beings and phenomena
3:22
one inhabited by beings and phenomena that defy explanation.
3:24
that defy explanation.
3:24
that defy explanation. Now, these are not isolated tales. They
3:26
Now, these are not isolated tales. They
3:26
Now, these are not isolated tales. They are threads to a larger tapestry of
3:29
are threads to a larger tapestry of
3:30
are threads to a larger tapestry of mystery, secrecy, and fear.
3:33
mystery, secrecy, and fear.
3:33
mystery, secrecy, and fear. What you're about to hear are
3:34
What you're about to hear are
3:34
What you're about to hear are testimonies from veterans, geologists,
3:37
testimonies from veterans, geologists,
3:37
testimonies from veterans, geologists, explorers, and everyday people who
3:39
explorers, and everyday people who
3:39
explorers, and everyday people who stumbled into situations they can
3:41
stumbled into situations they can
3:41
stumbled into situations they can neither explain nor forget.
3:45
neither explain nor forget.
3:45
neither explain nor forget. These are seasoned, credible individuals
3:47
These are seasoned, credible individuals
3:48
These are seasoned, credible individuals who risk their reputations to come
3:49
who risk their reputations to come
3:50
who risk their reputations to come forward. Now, some of their accounts
3:52
forward. Now, some of their accounts
3:52
forward. Now, some of their accounts speak of reptilian humanoids and
3:53
speak of reptilian humanoids and
3:54
speak of reptilian humanoids and anomalous machinery, others of bizarre
3:56
anomalous machinery, others of bizarre
3:56
anomalous machinery, others of bizarre lights, Bigfoot captivity, and even
3:59
lights, Bigfoot captivity, and even
3:59
lights, Bigfoot captivity, and even possible government involvement in
4:02
possible government involvement in
4:02
possible government involvement in keeping these mysteries hidden from the
4:04
keeping these mysteries hidden from the
4:04
keeping these mysteries hidden from the public eye.
4:06
public eye.
4:06
public eye. As investigators and seekers of truth,
4:09
As investigators and seekers of truth,
4:09
As investigators and seekers of truth, we must weigh each story with respect
4:12
we must weigh each story with respect
4:12
we must weigh each story with respect while also considering the bigger
4:14
while also considering the bigger
4:14
while also considering the bigger picture.
4:15
picture.
4:15
picture. Are these fragments a larger
4:17
Are these fragments a larger
4:17
Are these fragments a larger subterranean reality, one that has
4:19
subterranean reality, one that has
4:19
subterranean reality, one that has remained just out of reach? Could these
4:22
remained just out of reach? Could these
4:22
remained just out of reach? Could these experiences point toward an underground
4:25
experiences point toward an underground
4:25
experiences point toward an underground presence that's been with us for longer
4:26
presence that's been with us for longer
4:26
presence that's been with us for longer than we realize? Tonight, I invite you
4:29
than we realize? Tonight, I invite you
4:29
than we realize? Tonight, I invite you to journey with me into the shadows
4:32
to journey with me into the shadows
4:32
to journey with me into the shadows below the surface to confront the
4:34
below the surface to confront the
4:34
below the surface to confront the possibility that we're not alone, nor
4:36
possibility that we're not alone, nor
4:36
possibility that we're not alone, nor above ground, nor beneath it.
4:40
above ground, nor beneath it.
4:40
above ground, nor beneath it. This is one of the most harrowing
4:42
This is one of the most harrowing
4:42
This is one of the most harrowing collections of undergrounding anomalous
4:44
collections of undergrounding anomalous
4:44
collections of undergrounding anomalous activity ever compiled on Phantoms and
4:46
activity ever compiled on Phantoms and
4:46
activity ever compiled on Phantoms and Monsters Radio. So prepare yourself for
4:48
Monsters Radio. So prepare yourself for
4:48
Monsters Radio. So prepare yourself for unex settling revelations, strange
4:51
unex settling revelations, strange
4:51
unex settling revelations, strange connections, and unfiltered voices to
4:54
connections, and unfiltered voices to
4:54
connections, and unfiltered voices to those who have walked into the unknown
4:57
those who have walked into the unknown
4:57
those who have walked into the unknown and survived to tell their stories. But
5:00
and survived to tell their stories. But
5:00
and survived to tell their stories. But before I proceed, please consider
5:02
before I proceed, please consider
5:02
before I proceed, please consider supporting the channel and by clicking
5:04
supporting the channel and by clicking
5:04
supporting the channel and by clicking the subscribe and like buttons and by
5:06
the subscribe and like buttons and by
5:06
the subscribe and like buttons and by you sharing our content. Super chat and
5:08
you sharing our content. Super chat and
5:08
you sharing our content. Super chat and super thanks donations are appreciated.
5:11
super thanks donations are appreciated.
5:11
super thanks donations are appreciated. You can click the dollar icon located
5:12
You can click the dollar icon located
5:12
You can click the dollar icon located below the chat box.
5:15
below the chat box.
5:15
below the chat box. You can also use PayPal or buy me a
5:17
You can also use PayPal or buy me a
5:17
You can also use PayPal or buy me a coffee links that are in the
5:19
coffee links that are in the
5:19
coffee links that are in the description. Thank you for your support
5:20
description. Thank you for your support
5:20
description. Thank you for your support and considerations. Now, your comments
5:23
and considerations. Now, your comments
5:23
and considerations. Now, your comments are always welcome. Please let me or the
5:25
are always welcome. Please let me or the
5:25
are always welcome. Please let me or the moderators know which accounts you found
5:27
moderators know which accounts you found
5:27
moderators know which accounts you found interesting in the presentation or share
5:30
interesting in the presentation or share
5:30
interesting in the presentation or share any suggestion for upcoming shows.
5:32
any suggestion for upcoming shows.
5:32
any suggestion for upcoming shows. Again, I want to thank everyone
5:33
Again, I want to thank everyone
5:33
Again, I want to thank everyone associated with the channel. Now, if
5:36
associated with the channel. Now, if
5:36
associated with the channel. Now, if you're in the chat and have a question,
5:38
you're in the chat and have a question,
5:38
you're in the chat and have a question, please use all caps and I'll try to get
5:40
please use all caps and I'll try to get
5:40
please use all caps and I'll try to get to each one of them after the
5:41
to each one of them after the
5:42
to each one of them after the presentation.
5:45
Now, this first account I I've talked
5:47
Now, this first account I I've talked
5:47
Now, this first account I I've talked about many times. It's actually a compil
5:50
about many times. It's actually a compil
5:50
about many times. It's actually a compil compilation of three emails
5:53
compilation of three emails
5:53
compilation of three emails which included answers to a few of my
5:55
which included answers to a few of my
5:55
which included answers to a few of my questions. The uh the man who provided
5:58
questions. The uh the man who provided
5:58
questions. The uh the man who provided this information was at the time of the
6:00
this information was at the time of the
6:00
this information was at the time of the incident a US Army corporal who had
6:03
incident a US Army corporal who had
6:03
incident a US Army corporal who had since retired from the military after a
6:05
since retired from the military after a
6:05
since retired from the military after a lengthy career.
6:07
lengthy career.
6:08
lengthy career. Now he did not give me specifics as to
6:11
Now he did not give me specifics as to
6:11
Now he did not give me specifics as to his uh unit and mission but he feels
6:14
his uh unit and mission but he feels
6:14
his uh unit and mission but he feels strongly that his experience should be
6:17
strongly that his experience should be
6:17
strongly that his experience should be told and he provided two identification
6:19
told and he provided two identification
6:19
told and he provided two identification references which I checked out and did
6:22
references which I checked out and did
6:22
references which I checked out and did check out. Now overall this man served a
6:25
check out. Now overall this man served a
6:25
check out. Now overall this man served a distinguished military career and his
6:27
distinguished military career and his
6:27
distinguished military career and his reputation is quite admirable from what
6:29
reputation is quite admirable from what
6:29
reputation is quite admirable from what I have seen.
6:31
I have seen.
6:31
I have seen. Some of the information has been edited
6:34
Some of the information has been edited
6:34
Some of the information has been edited at the request of the witness.
6:37
at the request of the witness.
6:37
at the request of the witness. Again, this is not the first time I've
6:39
Again, this is not the first time I've
6:39
Again, this is not the first time I've referenced this encounter. So he tells
6:41
referenced this encounter. So he tells
6:41
referenced this encounter. So he tells me
6:43
me
6:43
me in 1970 I was serving as a corporal in
6:46
in 1970 I was serving as a corporal in
6:46
in 1970 I was serving as a corporal in the US Army deployed in South Vietnam in
6:48
the US Army deployed in South Vietnam in
6:48
the US Army deployed in South Vietnam in the region about 30 mi south of the DMZ.
6:52
the region about 30 mi south of the DMZ.
6:52
the region about 30 mi south of the DMZ. At the time, I was second in command of
6:55
At the time, I was second in command of
6:55
At the time, I was second in command of a squad of soldiers. We had set up a
6:58
a squad of soldiers. We had set up a
6:58
a squad of soldiers. We had set up a bivlac in the jungle area that had a few
7:01
bivlac in the jungle area that had a few
7:01
bivlac in the jungle area that had a few steep hills. That evening, my section
7:04
steep hills. That evening, my section
7:04
steep hills. That evening, my section was ordered to patrol one of the small
7:07
was ordered to patrol one of the small
7:07
was ordered to patrol one of the small valleys west of the encampment. We moved
7:09
valleys west of the encampment. We moved
7:10
valleys west of the encampment. We moved out, led by our sergeant.
7:12
out, led by our sergeant.
7:12
out, led by our sergeant. Not long after entering one of the small
7:15
Not long after entering one of the small
7:15
Not long after entering one of the small valleys, we detected movement ahead of
7:17
valleys, we detected movement ahead of
7:17
valleys, we detected movement ahead of us.
7:19
us.
7:19
us. It seemed to be scatter a scattering of
7:21
It seemed to be scatter a scattering of
7:21
It seemed to be scatter a scattering of activity, so we doubted it was the VC,
7:24
activity, so we doubted it was the VC,
7:24
activity, so we doubted it was the VC, but we weren't positive. We hunkered
7:27
but we weren't positive. We hunkered
7:27
but we weren't positive. We hunkered down for about 15 minutes, getting
7:29
down for about 15 minutes, getting
7:29
down for about 15 minutes, getting occasional glimpses of something moving
7:31
occasional glimpses of something moving
7:31
occasional glimpses of something moving within the trees and brush.
7:34
within the trees and brush.
7:34
within the trees and brush. There wasn't enough light to detect what
7:36
There wasn't enough light to detect what
7:36
There wasn't enough light to detect what we were observing, even though the
7:37
we were observing, even though the
7:37
we were observing, even though the moonlight was bright that night. Now,
7:40
moonlight was bright that night. Now,
7:40
moonlight was bright that night. Now, after a while, the activity halted, so
7:42
after a while, the activity halted, so
7:42
after a while, the activity halted, so we continued to move slowly through the
7:44
we continued to move slowly through the
7:44
we continued to move slowly through the valley.
7:46
valley.
7:46
valley. As we approached a sheer wall on the
7:48
As we approached a sheer wall on the
7:48
As we approached a sheer wall on the hill, it looked like someone or
7:51
hill, it looked like someone or
7:51
hill, it looked like someone or something had stacked large stones and
7:53
something had stacked large stones and
7:53
something had stacked large stones and boulders in the pass in front of us.
7:57
boulders in the pass in front of us.
7:57
boulders in the pass in front of us. There were also an there was also an
7:59
There were also an there was also an
7:59
There were also an there was also an opening in the hillside that looked like
8:01
opening in the hillside that looked like
8:01
opening in the hillside that looked like a cave entrance approximately 5 foot
8:04
a cave entrance approximately 5 foot
8:04
a cave entrance approximately 5 foot high and three foot wide narrowing at
8:07
high and three foot wide narrowing at
8:07
high and three foot wide narrowing at the top. when observing the passageway
8:10
the top. when observing the passageway
8:10
the top. when observing the passageway appeared to have been cut away by
8:12
appeared to have been cut away by
8:12
appeared to have been cut away by machinery. The edges were smooth with
8:15
machinery. The edges were smooth with
8:15
machinery. The edges were smooth with small even spaced grooves.
8:19
small even spaced grooves.
8:19
small even spaced grooves. We were puzzled by this because we had
8:21
We were puzzled by this because we had
8:21
We were puzzled by this because we had never seen enemy caves like this just
8:24
never seen enemy caves like this just
8:24
never seen enemy caves like this just underground tunnels. The sergeant
8:27
underground tunnels. The sergeant
8:27
underground tunnels. The sergeant suggested that we may be it may be a VC
8:30
suggested that we may be it may be a VC
8:30
suggested that we may be it may be a VC supply depot. So we started to assess
8:33
supply depot. So we started to assess
8:33
supply depot. So we started to assess how to investigate the cave.
8:37
how to investigate the cave.
8:37
how to investigate the cave. About this time though, things got very
8:39
About this time though, things got very
8:39
About this time though, things got very strange.
8:41
strange.
8:41
strange. We noticed a putrid odor emanating from
8:44
We noticed a putrid odor emanating from
8:44
We noticed a putrid odor emanating from this the cave entrance. The only thing I
8:47
this the cave entrance. The only thing I
8:47
this the cave entrance. The only thing I can compare it to is rotting aids and
8:49
can compare it to is rotting aids and
8:49
can compare it to is rotting aids and eggs and human decay. It was so
8:52
eggs and human decay. It was so
8:52
eggs and human decay. It was so revolting that a few of the soldiers
8:54
revolting that a few of the soldiers
8:54
revolting that a few of the soldiers were becoming ill and started to back
8:56
were becoming ill and started to back
8:56
were becoming ill and started to back away into the jungle, including the
8:58
away into the jungle, including the
8:58
away into the jungle, including the sergeant.
9:00
sergeant.
9:00
sergeant. I was directing a light into the
9:01
I was directing a light into the
9:02
I was directing a light into the entrance to observed anything, but there
9:04
entrance to observed anything, but there
9:04
entrance to observed anything, but there was a haze that made it impossible to
9:06
was a haze that made it impossible to
9:06
was a haze that made it impossible to see through. We had no idea what was
9:10
see through. We had no idea what was
9:10
see through. We had no idea what was before us.
9:13
before us.
9:13
before us. So, the entire squad took a position in
9:16
So, the entire squad took a position in
9:16
So, the entire squad took a position in the heavy brush approximately 150 ft
9:18
the heavy brush approximately 150 ft
9:18
the heavy brush approximately 150 ft from the entrance. Far enough not to be
9:20
from the entrance. Far enough not to be
9:20
from the entrance. Far enough not to be detected, but close enough to observe
9:22
detected, but close enough to observe
9:22
detected, but close enough to observe the cave entrance.
9:25
the cave entrance.
9:25
the cave entrance. We quietly remained there for what
9:27
We quietly remained there for what
9:27
We quietly remained there for what seemed like forever.
9:29
seemed like forever.
9:29
seemed like forever. The jungle was strangely calm, though we
9:31
The jungle was strangely calm, though we
9:31
The jungle was strangely calm, though we heard distant rumblings. It was eerie.
9:34
heard distant rumblings. It was eerie.
9:34
heard distant rumblings. It was eerie. The sergeant was sitting near me talking
9:36
The sergeant was sitting near me talking
9:36
The sergeant was sitting near me talking to himself. He was frightened.
9:39
to himself. He was frightened.
9:39
to himself. He was frightened. I was looking at the rest of the squad.
9:41
I was looking at the rest of the squad.
9:41
I was looking at the rest of the squad. Each of them had wide eyes and scanned
9:43
Each of them had wide eyes and scanned
9:43
Each of them had wide eyes and scanned the area. No one was going to doze off
9:46
the area. No one was going to doze off
9:46
the area. No one was going to doze off during this patrol.
9:48
during this patrol.
9:48
during this patrol. Now, after several hours, dawn was
9:51
Now, after several hours, dawn was
9:51
Now, after several hours, dawn was approaching and the sky began to
9:53
approaching and the sky began to
9:53
approaching and the sky began to lighten. I checked my watch and it was
9:56
lighten. I checked my watch and it was
9:56
lighten. I checked my watch and it was just before 500 hours. Just then, we
10:00
just before 500 hours. Just then, we
10:00
just before 500 hours. Just then, we noticed movement in front of the cave. A
10:03
noticed movement in front of the cave. A
10:03
noticed movement in front of the cave. A being, I first thought it was a man,
10:05
being, I first thought it was a man,
10:05
being, I first thought it was a man, moved through the entrance into the
10:07
moved through the entrance into the
10:07
moved through the entrance into the clearing in front of the cave. As it
10:10
clearing in front of the cave. As it
10:10
clearing in front of the cave. As it stood up from a crouch, it stood at
10:12
stood up from a crouch, it stood at
10:12
stood up from a crouch, it stood at least 7 feet tall high and started to
10:15
least 7 feet tall high and started to
10:15
least 7 feet tall high and started to look in our direction. At that time,
10:17
look in our direction. At that time,
10:17
look in our direction. At that time, another similar looking creature was
10:19
another similar looking creature was
10:19
another similar looking creature was moving out of the cave. They were making
10:22
moving out of the cave. They were making
10:22
moving out of the cave. They were making hellish hissing sounds and looked
10:24
hellish hissing sounds and looked
10:24
hellish hissing sounds and looked directly at us. The only way I can
10:27
directly at us. The only way I can
10:27
directly at us. The only way I can describe these beings is that they
10:29
describe these beings is that they
10:29
describe these beings is that they looked like upright lizards. The scaly
10:32
looked like upright lizards. The scaly
10:32
looked like upright lizards. The scaly shiny skin was very dark, almost black,
10:35
shiny skin was very dark, almost black,
10:35
shiny skin was very dark, almost black, snake- like faces with forward set eyes
10:38
snake- like faces with forward set eyes
10:38
snake- like faces with forward set eyes that were very large. They had arms and
10:41
that were very large. They had arms and
10:41
that were very large. They had arms and legs like a human, but with scaly skin.
10:44
legs like a human, but with scaly skin.
10:44
legs like a human, but with scaly skin. I did notice a tail, though they wore
10:47
I did notice a tail, though they wore
10:47
I did notice a tail, though they wore long one piece green, dark green robes.
10:51
long one piece green, dark green robes.
10:51
long one piece green, dark green robes. I never noticed that they had anything
10:53
I never noticed that they had anything
10:53
I never noticed that they had anything on their feet.
10:55
on their feet.
10:56
on their feet. No one gave the order. It seemed like
10:58
No one gave the order. It seemed like
10:58
No one gave the order. It seemed like the entire squad opened fire at once.
11:02
the entire squad opened fire at once.
11:02
the entire squad opened fire at once. Every piece of vegetation between us and
11:04
Every piece of vegetation between us and
11:04
Every piece of vegetation between us and them was quickly sheared away. I yelled
11:07
them was quickly sheared away. I yelled
11:07
them was quickly sheared away. I yelled out a ceasefire order. At the same time,
11:09
out a ceasefire order. At the same time,
11:09
out a ceasefire order. At the same time, I was looking in the direction of the
11:11
I was looking in the direction of the
11:11
I was looking in the direction of the cave. There was nothing there. We
11:13
cave. There was nothing there. We
11:13
cave. There was nothing there. We immediately checked our flanks in case
11:15
immediately checked our flanks in case
11:16
immediately checked our flanks in case these things circle us, but there was
11:18
these things circle us, but there was
11:18
these things circle us, but there was nothing.
11:20
nothing.
11:20
nothing. Now, as we approached the cave, ready to
11:22
Now, as we approached the cave, ready to
11:22
Now, as we approached the cave, ready to resume action if needed, it became
11:24
resume action if needed, it became
11:24
resume action if needed, it became apparent that the beings had escaped,
11:26
apparent that the beings had escaped,
11:26
apparent that the beings had escaped, most likely back into the cave. It was
11:29
most likely back into the cave. It was
11:29
most likely back into the cave. It was soon decided to set charges and closed
11:32
soon decided to set charges and closed
11:32
soon decided to set charges and closed the cave entrance.
11:34
the cave entrance.
11:34
the cave entrance. When we returned to camp, we all seemed
11:37
When we returned to camp, we all seemed
11:37
When we returned to camp, we all seemed to be in a days.
11:39
to be in a days.
11:39
to be in a days. There was little discussion of the
11:40
There was little discussion of the
11:40
There was little discussion of the incident, and we were never debriefed,
11:42
incident, and we were never debriefed,
11:42
incident, and we were never debriefed, so I know the sergeant never filed a
11:44
so I know the sergeant never filed a
11:44
so I know the sergeant never filed a report. Then again, if he did, it was
11:48
report. Then again, if he did, it was
11:48
report. Then again, if he did, it was kept quiet by the brass.
11:54
So this next account, the witness tells
11:57
So this next account, the witness tells
11:57
So this next account, the witness tells me,
12:00
"Hello, I have a weird story I'd like to
12:03
"Hello, I have a weird story I'd like to
12:03
"Hello, I have a weird story I'd like to present for your consideration. There's
12:05
present for your consideration. There's
12:05
present for your consideration. There's no explanation as to what occurred,
12:06
no explanation as to what occurred,
12:06
no explanation as to what occurred, though I believe the supernatural was at
12:09
though I believe the supernatural was at
12:09
though I believe the supernatural was at play.
12:11
play.
12:11
play. It was the Christmas season of 1958.
12:14
It was the Christmas season of 1958.
12:14
It was the Christmas season of 1958. My parents and I lived in a small home
12:17
My parents and I lived in a small home
12:17
My parents and I lived in a small home in eastern Tennessee.
12:19
in eastern Tennessee.
12:19
in eastern Tennessee. We survived in what little money my
12:21
We survived in what little money my
12:21
We survived in what little money my mother can make doing odd jobs for other
12:23
mother can make doing odd jobs for other
12:24
mother can make doing odd jobs for other people in the area. Now, my father was
12:26
people in the area. Now, my father was
12:26
people in the area. Now, my father was wounded during the Korean War and he
12:28
wounded during the Korean War and he
12:28
wounded during the Korean War and he received a monthly pension from the
12:29
received a monthly pension from the
12:29
received a monthly pension from the government.
12:31
government.
12:31
government. I was 8 years old at the time. After
12:33
I was 8 years old at the time. After
12:33
I was 8 years old at the time. After school, I would work around the house
12:35
school, I would work around the house
12:35
school, I would work around the house and help care for my father. I knew that
12:37
and help care for my father. I knew that
12:37
and help care for my father. I knew that money was tight and figured there
12:39
money was tight and figured there
12:39
money was tight and figured there wouldn't be any gift giving this year
12:41
wouldn't be any gift giving this year
12:41
wouldn't be any gift giving this year that year, but we made the best for what
12:43
that year, but we made the best for what
12:43
that year, but we made the best for what we had. Now, a few days before Christmas
12:46
we had. Now, a few days before Christmas
12:46
we had. Now, a few days before Christmas Day, I was lying in bed, began to hear
12:49
Day, I was lying in bed, began to hear
12:49
Day, I was lying in bed, began to hear noises coming from outside my window.
12:52
noises coming from outside my window.
12:52
noises coming from outside my window. It sounded like children playing and
12:54
It sounded like children playing and
12:54
It sounded like children playing and laughing. I got out of bed and looked
12:57
laughing. I got out of bed and looked
12:57
laughing. I got out of bed and looked out the window. I noticed several blue
12:59
out the window. I noticed several blue
12:59
out the window. I noticed several blue lights bobbing about in my mother's
13:01
lights bobbing about in my mother's
13:02
lights bobbing about in my mother's garden. I went and woke my mother. She
13:05
garden. I went and woke my mother. She
13:05
garden. I went and woke my mother. She got up and we walked out onto the porch.
13:07
got up and we walked out onto the porch.
13:07
got up and we walked out onto the porch. We both witnessed the blue lights moving
13:09
We both witnessed the blue lights moving
13:09
We both witnessed the blue lights moving up and down above the garden. It was
13:12
up and down above the garden. It was
13:12
up and down above the garden. It was very cold, so we went back in the house
13:14
very cold, so we went back in the house
13:14
very cold, so we went back in the house and watched from the bedroom window. The
13:17
and watched from the bedroom window. The
13:17
and watched from the bedroom window. The lights were there for over an hour and
13:19
lights were there for over an hour and
13:19
lights were there for over an hour and continued moving about. We were
13:21
continued moving about. We were
13:21
continued moving about. We were exhausted, so we both went back to
13:23
exhausted, so we both went back to
13:23
exhausted, so we both went back to sleep.
13:25
sleep.
13:25
sleep. In the morning, we sat at the table
13:27
In the morning, we sat at the table
13:27
In the morning, we sat at the table eating breakfast. My parents were
13:29
eating breakfast. My parents were
13:30
eating breakfast. My parents were discussing the blue lights. My father
13:32
discussing the blue lights. My father
13:32
discussing the blue lights. My father said that he heard of a similar
13:34
said that he heard of a similar
13:34
said that he heard of a similar occurrence when he was a boy. The deacon
13:36
occurrence when he was a boy. The deacon
13:36
occurrence when he was a boy. The deacon at his church commented to several of
13:38
at his church commented to several of
13:38
at his church commented to several of the congregation that he noticed blue
13:40
the congregation that he noticed blue
13:40
the congregation that he noticed blue lights outside the rectory one evening.
13:43
lights outside the rectory one evening.
13:43
lights outside the rectory one evening. He explained that these were angels
13:45
He explained that these were angels
13:45
He explained that these were angels watching over the church.
13:48
watching over the church.
13:48
watching over the church. The next few nights I watched for
13:49
The next few nights I watched for
13:49
The next few nights I watched for lights, but they never returned.
13:52
lights, but they never returned.
13:52
lights, but they never returned. So on Christmas Eve, a few family
13:54
So on Christmas Eve, a few family
13:54
So on Christmas Eve, a few family friends stopped by the house during the
13:56
friends stopped by the house during the
13:56
friends stopped by the house during the day to wish us happy holidays. My friend
13:59
day to wish us happy holidays. My friend
13:59
day to wish us happy holidays. My friend Larry came over, too. We listened to the
14:01
Larry came over, too. We listened to the
14:02
Larry came over, too. We listened to the radio for most of the afternoon. Now,
14:03
radio for most of the afternoon. Now,
14:03
radio for most of the afternoon. Now, neither one of us had ever had a
14:05
neither one of us had ever had a
14:05
neither one of us had ever had a television in our home. I mentioned that
14:08
television in our home. I mentioned that
14:08
television in our home. I mentioned that it would be nice to have one, but I knew
14:10
it would be nice to have one, but I knew
14:10
it would be nice to have one, but I knew that we could never afford it.
14:13
that we could never afford it.
14:13
that we could never afford it. I told Larry about the blue lights and
14:15
I told Larry about the blue lights and
14:15
I told Larry about the blue lights and the story that my father had told me.
14:18
the story that my father had told me.
14:18
the story that my father had told me. Larry said that his uncle Joe told him
14:20
Larry said that his uncle Joe told him
14:20
Larry said that his uncle Joe told him the same story about the blue lights
14:22
the same story about the blue lights
14:22
the same story about the blue lights outside the church rectory. So, I
14:24
outside the church rectory. So, I
14:24
outside the church rectory. So, I figured it must have it must have really
14:26
figured it must have it must have really
14:26
figured it must have it must have really happened. Larry also said that his uncle
14:29
happened. Larry also said that his uncle
14:29
happened. Larry also said that his uncle Joe mentioned that there were little
14:31
Joe mentioned that there were little
14:31
Joe mentioned that there were little people with big heads and large eyes who
14:33
people with big heads and large eyes who
14:33
people with big heads and large eyes who lived in the mountains. I asked Larry if
14:37
lived in the mountains. I asked Larry if
14:37
lived in the mountains. I asked Larry if his uncle Joe had ever seen these little
14:39
his uncle Joe had ever seen these little
14:39
his uncle Joe had ever seen these little little people and Larry said that he
14:41
little people and Larry said that he
14:41
little people and Larry said that he just didn't think so.
14:43
just didn't think so.
14:43
just didn't think so. So that evening, my parents and I were
14:45
So that evening, my parents and I were
14:45
So that evening, my parents and I were sitting in the front room when we heard
14:47
sitting in the front room when we heard
14:47
sitting in the front room when we heard what sounded like footsteps on the
14:48
what sounded like footsteps on the
14:48
what sounded like footsteps on the porch.
14:50
porch.
14:50
porch. My father went to investigate, but he
14:52
My father went to investigate, but he
14:52
My father went to investigate, but he didn't see anything unusual. I then told
14:55
didn't see anything unusual. I then told
14:55
didn't see anything unusual. I then told them what Larry's uncle Joe had told
14:58
them what Larry's uncle Joe had told
14:58
them what Larry's uncle Joe had told him. My father just smiled and said that
15:00
him. My father just smiled and said that
15:00
him. My father just smiled and said that old Joe told a lot of good stories,
15:03
old Joe told a lot of good stories,
15:03
old Joe told a lot of good stories, though most of them just weren't true.
15:06
though most of them just weren't true.
15:06
though most of them just weren't true. My father then said that he remembered a
15:09
My father then said that he remembered a
15:09
My father then said that he remembered a story that old Joe told him one day.
15:13
story that old Joe told him one day.
15:13
story that old Joe told him one day. My father said that old Joe told him
15:15
My father said that old Joe told him
15:15
My father said that old Joe told him that the little people of the mountain
15:17
that the little people of the mountain
15:17
that the little people of the mountain would bring gifts to folks they liked.
15:20
would bring gifts to folks they liked.
15:20
would bring gifts to folks they liked. He said that old Joe thought that these
15:22
He said that old Joe thought that these
15:22
He said that old Joe thought that these little people were aliens because they
15:24
little people were aliens because they
15:24
little people were aliens because they had he had seen lights fly off the
15:26
had he had seen lights fly off the
15:26
had he had seen lights fly off the mountain at night. Now, I prodded my
15:28
mountain at night. Now, I prodded my
15:28
mountain at night. Now, I prodded my father to tell me more, but he said old
15:30
father to tell me more, but he said old
15:30
father to tell me more, but he said old Joe told too many stories and they were
15:32
Joe told too many stories and they were
15:32
Joe told too many stories and they were just flatout lies.
15:34
just flatout lies.
15:34
just flatout lies. It's about 10 p.m., so I was set off to
15:37
It's about 10 p.m., so I was set off to
15:37
It's about 10 p.m., so I was set off to bed uh since we were going to church on
15:40
bed uh since we were going to church on
15:40
bed uh since we were going to church on Christmas morning.
15:42
Christmas morning.
15:42
Christmas morning. I woke in the middle of the night to get
15:44
I woke in the middle of the night to get
15:44
I woke in the middle of the night to get a drink of water. I I overlooked at the
15:48
a drink of water. I I overlooked at the
15:48
a drink of water. I I overlooked at the time, but I believe it was around 1:00
15:50
time, but I believe it was around 1:00
15:50
time, but I believe it was around 1:00 am or so.
15:53
am or so.
15:53
am or so. I walked out of my room into the hallway
15:56
I walked out of my room into the hallway
15:56
I walked out of my room into the hallway and noticed the same giggling and
15:58
and noticed the same giggling and
15:58
and noticed the same giggling and laughter I had heard the night I
15:59
laughter I had heard the night I
15:59
laughter I had heard the night I witnessed the blue lights. The sound was
16:02
witnessed the blue lights. The sound was
16:02
witnessed the blue lights. The sound was coming from the front room. I slowly
16:05
coming from the front room. I slowly
16:05
coming from the front room. I slowly walked down the hallway and peered
16:07
walked down the hallway and peered
16:07
walked down the hallway and peered through the corner. There was nothing
16:09
through the corner. There was nothing
16:09
through the corner. There was nothing there, but I did see a square shape on
16:11
there, but I did see a square shape on
16:11
there, but I did see a square shape on the floor by the bookshelf.
16:14
the floor by the bookshelf.
16:14
the floor by the bookshelf. I turned on the room light. It was a
16:17
I turned on the room light. It was a
16:17
I turned on the room light. It was a brand new television, a Motorola.
16:20
brand new television, a Motorola.
16:20
brand new television, a Motorola. I remember letting out a screaming,
16:21
I remember letting out a screaming,
16:21
I remember letting out a screaming, hearing my mother running down the
16:23
hearing my mother running down the
16:23
hearing my mother running down the hallway.
16:25
hallway.
16:25
hallway. She saw me standing in front of the
16:26
She saw me standing in front of the
16:26
She saw me standing in front of the bookshelf, not knowing what was going
16:28
bookshelf, not knowing what was going
16:28
bookshelf, not knowing what was going on. Then she noticed the television. I
16:32
on. Then she noticed the television. I
16:32
on. Then she noticed the television. I can still remember the strange look on
16:34
can still remember the strange look on
16:34
can still remember the strange look on her face. She turned and ran back into
16:36
her face. She turned and ran back into
16:36
her face. She turned and ran back into the bedroom, yelling all the way. I
16:38
the bedroom, yelling all the way. I
16:38
the bedroom, yelling all the way. I could hear her asking about the
16:39
could hear her asking about the
16:39
could hear her asking about the television while my father answered,
16:41
television while my father answered,
16:41
television while my father answered, "What television?
16:43
"What television?
16:43
"What television? We sat in the front room just staring at
16:45
We sat in the front room just staring at
16:45
We sat in the front room just staring at the television, occasionally looking at
16:47
the television, occasionally looking at
16:47
the television, occasionally looking at each other. We never figured out how it
16:50
each other. We never figured out how it
16:50
each other. We never figured out how it had gotten there. I want to think it was
16:52
had gotten there. I want to think it was
16:52
had gotten there. I want to think it was the little people in the mountain. In
16:54
the little people in the mountain. In
16:54
the little people in the mountain. In fact, that's what old Joe told everybody
16:57
fact, that's what old Joe told everybody
16:57
fact, that's what old Joe told everybody who'd listened.
16:59
who'd listened.
16:59
who'd listened. And I I did talk to this witness and you
17:02
And I I did talk to this witness and you
17:02
And I I did talk to this witness and you and the reason I put this in here for
17:05
and the reason I put this in here for
17:05
and the reason I put this in here for the underground thing was they
17:07
the underground thing was they
17:07
the underground thing was they apparently Joe had told them that these
17:09
apparently Joe had told them that these
17:09
apparently Joe had told them that these these little creatures lived in in the
17:12
these little creatures lived in in the
17:12
these little creatures lived in in the caves in the mountains. So um it's an
17:16
caves in the mountains. So um it's an
17:16
caves in the mountains. So um it's an it's an intriguing story. Is it true? I
17:18
it's an intriguing story. Is it true? I
17:18
it's an intriguing story. Is it true? I don't know. But it it's interesting.
17:23
Now, I received an intriguing typed
17:25
Now, I received an intriguing typed
17:25
Now, I received an intriguing typed letter in the mail from a guy by the
17:28
letter in the mail from a guy by the
17:28
letter in the mail from a guy by the name of Jerry
17:30
name of Jerry
17:30
name of Jerry who now lives on the the US West Coast.
17:34
who now lives on the the US West Coast.
17:34
who now lives on the the US West Coast. He no contact information was given. A
17:37
He no contact information was given. A
17:37
He no contact information was given. A bit of personal information was removed
17:39
bit of personal information was removed
17:39
bit of personal information was removed for me to post and to preserve the
17:41
for me to post and to preserve the
17:41
for me to post and to preserve the witnesses and an enemy. So, he tells me,
17:44
witnesses and an enemy. So, he tells me,
17:44
witnesses and an enemy. So, he tells me, "Sir, this is the first time I'm
17:47
"Sir, this is the first time I'm
17:47
"Sir, this is the first time I'm disclosing my experience in public.
17:50
disclosing my experience in public.
17:50
disclosing my experience in public. My family has been previously informed
17:52
My family has been previously informed
17:52
My family has been previously informed of the details. At the time, I owned a
17:55
of the details. At the time, I owned a
17:55
of the details. At the time, I owned a small business which I had started after
17:57
small business which I had started after
17:57
small business which I had started after I finished 12 years stent in the
17:59
I finished 12 years stent in the
17:59
I finished 12 years stent in the military.
18:00
military.
18:00
military. I was then living near Eldridge,
18:03
I was then living near Eldridge,
18:03
I was then living near Eldridge, Missouri and was raised in a general
18:05
Missouri and was raised in a general
18:05
Missouri and was raised in a general area and knew the terrain well. I had
18:08
area and knew the terrain well. I had
18:08
area and knew the terrain well. I had spent time at the US Army engineering
18:11
spent time at the US Army engineering
18:11
spent time at the US Army engineering school at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri.
18:13
school at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri.
18:14
school at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. And some of the training included
18:15
And some of the training included
18:15
And some of the training included splunking.
18:17
splunking.
18:17
splunking. When I left the army, I continued to
18:18
When I left the army, I continued to
18:18
When I left the army, I continued to explore caves as recreation.
18:22
explore caves as recreation.
18:22
explore caves as recreation. Now, in 1993,
18:24
Now, in 1993,
18:24
Now, in 1993, I helped form a local group of
18:26
I helped form a local group of
18:26
I helped form a local group of experienced cavers. We would get
18:29
experienced cavers. We would get
18:29
experienced cavers. We would get together on weekends and explore some of
18:31
together on weekends and explore some of
18:31
together on weekends and explore some of the cavern systems throughout Missouri
18:32
the cavern systems throughout Missouri
18:32
the cavern systems throughout Missouri and Arkansas. The experience I'm about
18:35
and Arkansas. The experience I'm about
18:35
and Arkansas. The experience I'm about to describe took place in the summer of
18:37
to describe took place in the summer of
18:37
to describe took place in the summer of 1995. Now, I was on my own that day,
18:40
1995. Now, I was on my own that day,
18:40
1995. Now, I was on my own that day, which was not uncommon.
18:44
which was not uncommon.
18:44
which was not uncommon. I had decided to check out a cave in
18:46
I had decided to check out a cave in
18:46
I had decided to check out a cave in Candom County, Missouri, which was part
18:48
Candom County, Missouri, which was part
18:48
Candom County, Missouri, which was part of a relatively large system in the
18:50
of a relatively large system in the
18:50
of a relatively large system in the area. From what I could tell, this cave
18:53
area. From what I could tell, this cave
18:53
area. From what I could tell, this cave had not been explored for an extended
18:55
had not been explored for an extended
18:55
had not been explored for an extended period.
18:56
period.
18:56
period. The entrance was very narrow and well
18:59
The entrance was very narrow and well
18:59
The entrance was very narrow and well hidden. After squeezing through the
19:01
hidden. After squeezing through the
19:01
hidden. After squeezing through the opening, I descended another 50 foot or
19:03
opening, I descended another 50 foot or
19:03
opening, I descended another 50 foot or so before the cave became began to open
19:06
so before the cave became began to open
19:06
so before the cave became began to open into a series of chambers. I moved
19:09
into a series of chambers. I moved
19:09
into a series of chambers. I moved through several of these chambers,
19:11
through several of these chambers,
19:11
through several of these chambers, taking my time to examine the area or
19:13
taking my time to examine the area or
19:13
taking my time to examine the area or possible artifacts and formations.
19:17
possible artifacts and formations.
19:17
possible artifacts and formations. I finally reached what I thought was the
19:19
I finally reached what I thought was the
19:19
I finally reached what I thought was the end of the cave.
19:22
end of the cave.
19:22
end of the cave. But I started to hear rustling sounds
19:24
But I started to hear rustling sounds
19:24
But I started to hear rustling sounds that were echoing from the small opening
19:27
that were echoing from the small opening
19:27
that were echoing from the small opening near the top of the chamber. I assumed
19:29
near the top of the chamber. I assumed
19:30
near the top of the chamber. I assumed the sounds were bats and didn't pay much
19:31
the sounds were bats and didn't pay much
19:31
the sounds were bats and didn't pay much attention to them. But after a while, I
19:33
attention to them. But after a while, I
19:33
attention to them. But after a while, I heard a motor and talking.
19:37
heard a motor and talking.
19:37
heard a motor and talking. I stood and listened for several
19:38
I stood and listened for several
19:38
I stood and listened for several minutes, wondering what was on the other
19:40
minutes, wondering what was on the other
19:40
minutes, wondering what was on the other side of this chamber. The opening was
19:43
side of this chamber. The opening was
19:43
side of this chamber. The opening was about 10 ft above me. I maneuvered my
19:45
about 10 ft above me. I maneuvered my
19:45
about 10 ft above me. I maneuvered my way up to the opening, which was flat
19:47
way up to the opening, which was flat
19:47
way up to the opening, which was flat and narrow, but big enough for me to get
19:49
and narrow, but big enough for me to get
19:49
and narrow, but big enough for me to get a decent look into it.
19:52
a decent look into it.
19:52
a decent look into it. Now, as I positioned myself at the front
19:55
Now, as I positioned myself at the front
19:55
Now, as I positioned myself at the front of the opening, I saw a light on the
19:57
of the opening, I saw a light on the
19:57
of the opening, I saw a light on the other end. The passageway was only a few
20:00
other end. The passageway was only a few
20:00
other end. The passageway was only a few foot long, but was just too narrow for
20:03
foot long, but was just too narrow for
20:03
foot long, but was just too narrow for me to move through. As I looked through
20:05
me to move through. As I looked through
20:05
me to move through. As I looked through the opening, there was very warm draft
20:08
the opening, there was very warm draft
20:08
the opening, there was very warm draft of air hitting my face as well. The air
20:11
of air hitting my face as well. The air
20:11
of air hitting my face as well. The air had very accurate vinegar-like odor.
20:15
had very accurate vinegar-like odor.
20:15
had very accurate vinegar-like odor. There was a vast and well-lit room with
20:17
There was a vast and well-lit room with
20:17
There was a vast and well-lit room with limestone walls. I noticed a small
20:20
limestone walls. I noticed a small
20:20
limestone walls. I noticed a small vehicle that looked like a golf cart
20:22
vehicle that looked like a golf cart
20:22
vehicle that looked like a golf cart with very low on the ground and without
20:24
with very low on the ground and without
20:24
with very low on the ground and without wheels. I continued to observe until I
20:27
wheels. I continued to observe until I
20:27
wheels. I continued to observe until I started to hear voices that were getting
20:29
started to hear voices that were getting
20:29
started to hear voices that were getting louder and nearer.
20:32
louder and nearer.
20:32
louder and nearer. Something was making its way toward the
20:34
Something was making its way toward the
20:34
Something was making its way toward the vehicle. I had to rub my eyes because I
20:37
vehicle. I had to rub my eyes because I
20:37
vehicle. I had to rub my eyes because I didn't believe what I was looking at.
20:40
didn't believe what I was looking at.
20:40
didn't believe what I was looking at. This creature, because it was not a man,
20:42
This creature, because it was not a man,
20:42
This creature, because it was not a man, stood about 7 foot and had brown scaly
20:45
stood about 7 foot and had brown scaly
20:45
stood about 7 foot and had brown scaly skin. The face and head were shaped like
20:48
skin. The face and head were shaped like
20:48
skin. The face and head were shaped like a human with a flat nose, but there was
20:50
a human with a flat nose, but there was
20:50
a human with a flat nose, but there was no ears or hair. The top of the head had
20:53
no ears or hair. The top of the head had
20:53
no ears or hair. The top of the head had a slight scaly ray or ridge that
20:56
a slight scaly ray or ridge that
20:56
a slight scaly ray or ridge that extended down the back of the neck. From
20:58
extended down the back of the neck. From
20:58
extended down the back of the neck. From what I could see, it had lips and
21:00
what I could see, it had lips and
21:00
what I could see, it had lips and regularsized eyes. The arms were very
21:03
regularsized eyes. The arms were very
21:03
regularsized eyes. The arms were very long and muscular with humanlike hands.
21:06
long and muscular with humanlike hands.
21:06
long and muscular with humanlike hands. It also had a massive four to five foot
21:09
It also had a massive four to five foot
21:09
It also had a massive four to five foot uh tail that tapered to a point. It was
21:13
uh tail that tapered to a point. It was
21:13
uh tail that tapered to a point. It was dressed in gold metallic outfit with
21:15
dressed in gold metallic outfit with
21:15
dressed in gold metallic outfit with long pants and shoes. It also carried an
21:18
long pants and shoes. It also carried an
21:18
long pants and shoes. It also carried an oval pack attached to its back.
21:22
oval pack attached to its back.
21:22
oval pack attached to its back. I watched as this thing was looking at
21:24
I watched as this thing was looking at
21:24
I watched as this thing was looking at something on the vehicle. I had a
21:26
something on the vehicle. I had a
21:26
something on the vehicle. I had a high-speed camera which I used to
21:29
high-speed camera which I used to
21:29
high-speed camera which I used to document my cave explorations. I
21:32
document my cave explorations. I
21:32
document my cave explorations. I obtained a few distorted images of the
21:33
obtained a few distorted images of the
21:34
obtained a few distorted images of the beam. For some reason, while I was
21:36
beam. For some reason, while I was
21:36
beam. For some reason, while I was taking photos, the creature stopped and
21:38
taking photos, the creature stopped and
21:38
taking photos, the creature stopped and turned, looking in my direction.
21:41
turned, looking in my direction.
21:41
turned, looking in my direction. I'm not sure if it heard me, but I knew
21:44
I'm not sure if it heard me, but I knew
21:44
I'm not sure if it heard me, but I knew of it. It knew of my pre presence. It
21:47
of it. It knew of my pre presence. It
21:47
of it. It knew of my pre presence. It then made a terrible hissing sound as it
21:49
then made a terrible hissing sound as it
21:49
then made a terrible hissing sound as it continued to look in my direction. That
21:52
continued to look in my direction. That
21:52
continued to look in my direction. That was enough for me. I quickly started
21:54
was enough for me. I quickly started
21:54
was enough for me. I quickly started making a beline out of that cave. When I
21:57
making a beline out of that cave. When I
21:57
making a beline out of that cave. When I reached the entrance, I was shaking and
21:59
reached the entrance, I was shaking and
21:59
reached the entrance, I was shaking and hyperventilating. I finally reached my
22:02
hyperventilating. I finally reached my
22:02
hyperventilating. I finally reached my vehicle and drove home.
22:05
vehicle and drove home.
22:05
vehicle and drove home. Now, I continued to explore caves and
22:07
Now, I continued to explore caves and
22:07
Now, I continued to explore caves and areas. I've heard stories of people
22:08
areas. I've heard stories of people
22:08
areas. I've heard stories of people encountering strange underground beings,
22:11
encountering strange underground beings,
22:11
encountering strange underground beings, but I still never dis disclosed my
22:13
but I still never dis disclosed my
22:13
but I still never dis disclosed my experience. Now, a few years after my
22:16
experience. Now, a few years after my
22:16
experience. Now, a few years after my experience, I went back to the cave, but
22:18
experience, I went back to the cave, but
22:18
experience, I went back to the cave, but was unable to get near
22:20
was unable to get near
22:20
was unable to get near uh near it since the area was now
22:23
uh near it since the area was now
22:23
uh near it since the area was now government property. I can assume that I
22:26
government property. I can assume that I
22:26
government property. I can assume that I witnessed something that I wasn't
22:27
witnessed something that I wasn't
22:27
witnessed something that I wasn't supposed to see. It pains me to think
22:30
supposed to see. It pains me to think
22:30
supposed to see. It pains me to think what secrets are being kept from us. To
22:33
what secrets are being kept from us. To
22:33
what secrets are being kept from us. To those who say that there's no nonhumans
22:35
those who say that there's no nonhumans
22:36
those who say that there's no nonhumans living among us, well, think again.
22:37
living among us, well, think again.
22:37
living among us, well, think again. They're here.
22:39
They're here.
22:40
They're here. I do have the evidence of the
22:41
I do have the evidence of the
22:41
I do have the evidence of the experience, but I do not wish to release
22:44
experience, but I do not wish to release
22:44
experience, but I do not wish to release it at this time. And I have kept up with
22:47
it at this time. And I have kept up with
22:47
it at this time. And I have kept up with this Jerry guy for years and he will not
22:51
this Jerry guy for years and he will not
22:51
this Jerry guy for years and he will not release the photographs, which is
22:53
release the photographs, which is
22:53
release the photographs, which is something I do run into. I mean, he's
22:55
something I do run into. I mean, he's
22:55
something I do run into. I mean, he's sure they I haven't even seen anything.
22:57
sure they I haven't even seen anything.
22:57
sure they I haven't even seen anything. So, he, you know, I I don't know if he
22:59
So, he, you know, I I don't know if he
22:59
So, he, you know, I I don't know if he really had them or not, but he he swears
23:01
really had them or not, but he he swears
23:01
really had them or not, but he he swears he had something. So, I don't know.
23:07
Now, this next account, the witness
23:09
Now, this next account, the witness
23:09
Now, this next account, the witness tells me, and I want to thank u we got I
23:13
tells me, and I want to thank u we got I
23:13
tells me, and I want to thank u we got I did get a
23:17
bear zip. Yeah. Thank you for your
23:19
bear zip. Yeah. Thank you for your
23:19
bear zip. Yeah. Thank you for your donation. Very much appreciated.
23:23
donation. Very much appreciated.
23:23
donation. Very much appreciated. Now, this next witness states, "In 2015,
23:25
Now, this next witness states, "In 2015,
23:25
Now, this next witness states, "In 2015, I took a trip through northern Arizona.
23:27
I took a trip through northern Arizona.
23:28
I took a trip through northern Arizona. I live in Phoenix, hiking, taking
23:29
I live in Phoenix, hiking, taking
23:29
I live in Phoenix, hiking, taking photos, and enjoying nature.
23:32
photos, and enjoying nature.
23:32
photos, and enjoying nature. At one location, it was late, so I
23:34
At one location, it was late, so I
23:34
At one location, it was late, so I decided to park a few for a few hours
23:36
decided to park a few for a few hours
23:36
decided to park a few for a few hours and or spend the night in my truck. I
23:39
and or spend the night in my truck. I
23:39
and or spend the night in my truck. I had the car turned off with with the
23:41
had the car turned off with with the
23:41
had the car turned off with with the windows down.
23:44
windows down.
23:44
windows down. There was a giant full moon in the sky
23:46
There was a giant full moon in the sky
23:46
There was a giant full moon in the sky behind me and I was looking at it in my
23:49
behind me and I was looking at it in my
23:49
behind me and I was looking at it in my outside rearview mirror. Then this being
23:52
outside rearview mirror. Then this being
23:52
outside rearview mirror. Then this being walked from my left to my right about
23:55
walked from my left to my right about
23:55
walked from my left to my right about four to six feet behind the tail of the
23:57
four to six feet behind the tail of the
23:57
four to six feet behind the tail of the truck. I stopped and looked, it stopped
24:00
truck. I stopped and looked, it stopped
24:00
truck. I stopped and looked, it stopped and looked at me. It was about 8 foot
24:02
and looked at me. It was about 8 foot
24:02
and looked at me. It was about 8 foot tall, very shiny with long arms, and its
24:05
tall, very shiny with long arms, and its
24:05
tall, very shiny with long arms, and its elbows were lower than ours. The neck
24:07
elbows were lower than ours. The neck
24:08
elbows were lower than ours. The neck was about a foot long, pointed forward a
24:10
was about a foot long, pointed forward a
24:10
was about a foot long, pointed forward a bit, oval head, and what looked like 4
24:13
bit, oval head, and what looked like 4
24:13
bit, oval head, and what looked like 4 foot
24:15
foot
24:15
foot 4ft tube extended from the jaw down
24:18
4ft tube extended from the jaw down
24:18
4ft tube extended from the jaw down forward, almost like a very long beard
24:20
forward, almost like a very long beard
24:20
forward, almost like a very long beard coming to a point.
24:23
coming to a point.
24:23
coming to a point. The moon was behind it, so I saw it in
24:25
The moon was behind it, so I saw it in
24:25
The moon was behind it, so I saw it in silhouette. It strolled like it was
24:27
silhouette. It strolled like it was
24:27
silhouette. It strolled like it was struggling to move. I tried to roll out
24:30
struggling to move. I tried to roll out
24:30
struggling to move. I tried to roll out my window, but the truck was off.
24:32
my window, but the truck was off.
24:32
my window, but the truck was off. Slowly, I slightly turned it slightly
24:35
Slowly, I slightly turned it slightly
24:35
Slowly, I slightly turned it slightly turned its shoulders toward me, and that
24:38
turned its shoulders toward me, and that
24:38
turned its shoulders toward me, and that long freakish neck turned like an
24:39
long freakish neck turned like an
24:40
long freakish neck turned like an insects would.
24:42
insects would.
24:42
insects would. The face is looking right at me. I
24:45
The face is looking right at me. I
24:46
The face is looking right at me. I thought that that was it. I'm dead. It
24:49
thought that that was it. I'm dead. It
24:49
thought that that was it. I'm dead. It seemed so skinny, I figured it was
24:50
seemed so skinny, I figured it was
24:50
seemed so skinny, I figured it was hungry. I had my hand on the keys. If it
24:53
hungry. I had my hand on the keys. If it
24:53
hungry. I had my hand on the keys. If it came towards me, I turn the truck on,
24:56
came towards me, I turn the truck on,
24:56
came towards me, I turn the truck on, rolled the windows, and take off.
24:58
rolled the windows, and take off.
24:58
rolled the windows, and take off. The head turned back forward and it
25:00
The head turned back forward and it
25:00
The head turned back forward and it walked on. I waited a minute then
25:03
walked on. I waited a minute then
25:03
walked on. I waited a minute then started the truck and took off. So a few
25:06
started the truck and took off. So a few
25:06
started the truck and took off. So a few months later I decided to go back but in
25:08
months later I decided to go back but in
25:08
months later I decided to go back but in the daytime I found the exact spot.
25:11
the daytime I found the exact spot.
25:11
the daytime I found the exact spot. There was nothing there but dirt and
25:12
There was nothing there but dirt and
25:12
There was nothing there but dirt and desert. No buildings for miles. All dirt
25:15
desert. No buildings for miles. All dirt
25:15
desert. No buildings for miles. All dirt roads. I traveled around the area since
25:17
roads. I traveled around the area since
25:18
roads. I traveled around the area since I was there. Did a bit of hiking and
25:20
I was there. Did a bit of hiking and
25:20
I was there. Did a bit of hiking and then came upon a place and parked.
25:23
then came upon a place and parked.
25:23
then came upon a place and parked. It looked like an old crash site with a
25:26
It looked like an old crash site with a
25:26
It looked like an old crash site with a hole in the in the ground, burned out
25:28
hole in the in the ground, burned out
25:28
hole in the in the ground, burned out rocks and bushes growing in it. Whatever
25:31
rocks and bushes growing in it. Whatever
25:31
rocks and bushes growing in it. Whatever happened there happened a long time ago.
25:34
happened there happened a long time ago.
25:34
happened there happened a long time ago. Then I heard digging sounds like heavy
25:36
Then I heard digging sounds like heavy
25:36
Then I heard digging sounds like heavy machinery, trucks backing up, making
25:38
machinery, trucks backing up, making
25:38
machinery, trucks backing up, making that beep beep sound like a lot of them
25:41
that beep beep sound like a lot of them
25:41
that beep beep sound like a lot of them do. But there was nothing around me for
25:43
do. But there was nothing around me for
25:44
do. But there was nothing around me for miles, just desert.
25:46
miles, just desert.
25:46
miles, just desert. I drove around a bit to see where the
25:48
I drove around a bit to see where the
25:48
I drove around a bit to see where the sound was coming from, but I was all
25:50
sound was coming from, but I was all
25:50
sound was coming from, but I was all alone out there. I went back to the spot
25:53
alone out there. I went back to the spot
25:53
alone out there. I went back to the spot and could hear lots of trucks busy at
25:55
and could hear lots of trucks busy at
25:55
and could hear lots of trucks busy at work like primary digging construction
25:58
work like primary digging construction
25:58
work like primary digging construction machines.
26:00
machines.
26:00
machines. I then got on my knees and put my ear to
26:02
I then got on my knees and put my ear to
26:02
I then got on my knees and put my ear to the ground. The digging sound was coming
26:04
the ground. The digging sound was coming
26:04
the ground. The digging sound was coming from underground.
26:06
from underground.
26:06
from underground. That was odd. Nothing around that would
26:09
That was odd. Nothing around that would
26:10
That was odd. Nothing around that would identify the area for construction. Out
26:12
identify the area for construction. Out
26:12
identify the area for construction. Out in the desert on the straight forward
26:14
in the desert on the straight forward
26:14
in the desert on the straight forward road, I saw no one pass by at all.
26:18
road, I saw no one pass by at all.
26:18
road, I saw no one pass by at all. Then I noticed two large shiny white
26:20
Then I noticed two large shiny white
26:20
Then I noticed two large shiny white pickup trucks facing me in the desert
26:23
pickup trucks facing me in the desert
26:23
pickup trucks facing me in the desert and the windows were black. They seemed
26:26
and the windows were black. They seemed
26:26
and the windows were black. They seemed to appear out of nowhere and then two
26:28
to appear out of nowhere and then two
26:28
to appear out of nowhere and then two more appeared behind me. It was just me
26:32
more appeared behind me. It was just me
26:32
more appeared behind me. It was just me and the four trucks and a lot of people
26:34
and the four trucks and a lot of people
26:34
and the four trucks and a lot of people digging under me. I got concerned. I
26:36
digging under me. I got concerned. I
26:36
digging under me. I got concerned. I backed into my got back in my vehicle
26:39
backed into my got back in my vehicle
26:39
backed into my got back in my vehicle and left. Now, after a bit, I slowed
26:42
and left. Now, after a bit, I slowed
26:42
and left. Now, after a bit, I slowed down. No one was following, so I drove
26:45
down. No one was following, so I drove
26:45
down. No one was following, so I drove until I got to the next road. There was
26:48
until I got to the next road. There was
26:48
until I got to the next road. There was an underpass on the road to go north. I
26:50
an underpass on the road to go north. I
26:50
an underpass on the road to go north. I took a right to go south, go under the
26:54
took a right to go south, go under the
26:54
took a right to go south, go under the underpass, and take a left. At both
26:57
underpass, and take a left. At both
26:57
underpass, and take a left. At both exits were the same big white pickup
26:59
exits were the same big white pickup
26:59
exits were the same big white pickup trucks. The glass tinted black and
27:02
trucks. The glass tinted black and
27:02
trucks. The glass tinted black and whitey. Whichever way I turned, one of
27:04
whitey. Whichever way I turned, one of
27:04
whitey. Whichever way I turned, one of them would be behind me. I headed south
27:07
them would be behind me. I headed south
27:08
them would be behind me. I headed south and the truck behind me immediately took
27:09
and the truck behind me immediately took
27:09
and the truck behind me immediately took off after me.
27:11
off after me.
27:11
off after me. The other truck turned around and
27:13
The other truck turned around and
27:13
The other truck turned around and followed. The truck was right on my
27:15
followed. The truck was right on my
27:15
followed. The truck was right on my bumper.
27:17
bumper.
27:17
bumper. It was so large I couldn't see in its
27:19
It was so large I couldn't see in its
27:19
It was so large I couldn't see in its window, but the tent was so dark I
27:21
window, but the tent was so dark I
27:21
window, but the tent was so dark I couldn't see anyone driving anyway. I
27:24
couldn't see anyone driving anyway. I
27:24
couldn't see anyone driving anyway. I was going 90 mph and as I was as it was
27:27
was going 90 mph and as I was as it was
27:27
was going 90 mph and as I was as it was right on my tail. The other one tried to
27:31
right on my tail. The other one tried to
27:31
right on my tail. The other one tried to overtake me. I was weaving between two
27:33
overtake me. I was weaving between two
27:33
overtake me. I was weaving between two lanes to keep it from passing. I'd gone
27:36
lanes to keep it from passing. I'd gone
27:36
lanes to keep it from passing. I'd gone into the left lane to block the second
27:37
into the left lane to block the second
27:38
into the left lane to block the second truck and the one behind me tried to
27:40
truck and the one behind me tried to
27:40
truck and the one behind me tried to pass me on the right. This went on for
27:43
pass me on the right. This went on for
27:43
pass me on the right. This went on for miles until there was an exit with a few
27:45
miles until there was an exit with a few
27:45
miles until there was an exit with a few shops. I took that exit and both trucks
27:47
shops. I took that exit and both trucks
27:48
shops. I took that exit and both trucks slowed, did a U-turn, and returned.
27:51
slowed, did a U-turn, and returned.
27:51
slowed, did a U-turn, and returned. I knew that they had my license plate,
27:53
I knew that they had my license plate,
27:53
I knew that they had my license plate, so I figured I was screwed. I uncovered
27:56
so I figured I was screwed. I uncovered
27:56
so I figured I was screwed. I uncovered something they didn't want to be found.
27:58
something they didn't want to be found.
27:58
something they didn't want to be found. I went home and just waited for the
28:00
I went home and just waited for the
28:00
I went home and just waited for the knock on the door to be shot or
28:02
knock on the door to be shot or
28:02
knock on the door to be shot or whatever. Nothing happened.
28:05
whatever. Nothing happened.
28:05
whatever. Nothing happened. I got no contact, no warning, nothing. I
28:08
I got no contact, no warning, nothing. I
28:08
I got no contact, no warning, nothing. I was afraid to tell my friends as they
28:10
was afraid to tell my friends as they
28:10
was afraid to tell my friends as they might be incriminated as well. Years
28:13
might be incriminated as well. Years
28:13
might be incriminated as well. Years passed and nothing happened. It's been
28:15
passed and nothing happened. It's been
28:15
passed and nothing happened. It's been seven years now and I've never gone back
28:17
seven years now and I've never gone back
28:17
seven years now and I've never gone back to either location. Seeing that thing
28:20
to either location. Seeing that thing
28:20
to either location. Seeing that thing walking and hearing the digging
28:22
walking and hearing the digging
28:22
walking and hearing the digging underground and then seeing very earthly
28:25
underground and then seeing very earthly
28:25
underground and then seeing very earthly trucks trying to run me off the road,
28:27
trucks trying to run me off the road,
28:27
trucks trying to run me off the road, could there be a connection? I don't
28:29
could there be a connection? I don't
28:29
could there be a connection? I don't know. I stopped going out into the
28:32
know. I stopped going out into the
28:32
know. I stopped going out into the desert from then on.
28:35
desert from then on.
28:35
desert from then on. Do you have any idea what these what the
28:37
Do you have any idea what these what the
28:37
Do you have any idea what these what the thing things were that I saw? I'd love
28:39
thing things were that I saw? I'd love
28:39
thing things were that I saw? I'd love some answers. I guess we all would. I
28:42
some answers. I guess we all would. I
28:42
some answers. I guess we all would. I have no idea what happened there. Uh I
28:45
have no idea what happened there. Uh I
28:45
have no idea what happened there. Uh I I've had a lot of accounts over the
28:48
I've had a lot of accounts over the
28:48
I've had a lot of accounts over the years, especially out in deserts, and uh
28:51
years, especially out in deserts, and uh
28:51
years, especially out in deserts, and uh that was a new one for me. So, is it
28:53
that was a new one for me. So, is it
28:53
that was a new one for me. So, is it government involved? Who knows?
29:00
So this next account, the original email
29:02
So this next account, the original email
29:02
So this next account, the original email from the witness was forwarded to me
29:04
from the witness was forwarded to me
29:04
from the witness was forwarded to me during the Christmas holiday with honest
29:06
during the Christmas holiday with honest
29:06
during the Christmas holiday with honest intent in deference to Gregor, the
29:09
intent in deference to Gregor, the
29:09
intent in deference to Gregor, the witness. I had exchanged emails with
29:12
witness. I had exchanged emails with
29:12
witness. I had exchanged emails with this witness, but some communication
29:14
this witness, but some communication
29:14
this witness, but some communication difficulties needed to be ironed out
29:16
difficulties needed to be ironed out
29:16
difficulties needed to be ironed out since his English was a bit rusty
29:18
since his English was a bit rusty
29:18
since his English was a bit rusty according to him. Anyway, there were
29:21
according to him. Anyway, there were
29:21
according to him. Anyway, there were this is the final version of Greor's
29:23
this is the final version of Greor's
29:23
this is the final version of Greor's encounter.
29:29
He tells me, "Hello, Lon. I'm writing to
29:33
He tells me, "Hello, Lon. I'm writing to
29:33
He tells me, "Hello, Lon. I'm writing to you from where I live in Jamundan,
29:35
you from where I live in Jamundan,
29:35
you from where I live in Jamundan, Austria. I came came across your story
29:39
Austria. I came came across your story
29:39
Austria. I came came across your story about the man who had an encounter with
29:41
about the man who had an encounter with
29:42
about the man who had an encounter with an alien type creature in a cave in the
29:44
an alien type creature in a cave in the
29:44
an alien type creature in a cave in the United States.
29:46
United States.
29:46
United States. The story is like the my encounter in an
29:50
The story is like the my encounter in an
29:50
The story is like the my encounter in an obscure cave here in Upper Austria. This
29:54
obscure cave here in Upper Austria. This
29:54
obscure cave here in Upper Austria. This area is known for salt mines from the
29:56
area is known for salt mines from the
29:56
area is known for salt mines from the former Havsburg Empire. I am a trained
30:00
former Havsburg Empire. I am a trained
30:00
former Havsburg Empire. I am a trained certified geologist. I studied at the
30:02
certified geologist. I studied at the
30:02
certified geologist. I studied at the University of Saltsburg and the
30:04
University of Saltsburg and the
30:04
University of Saltsburg and the University of Madison, Wisconsin.
30:08
I have explored and documented cave
30:11
I have explored and documented cave
30:11
I have explored and documented cave systems throughout Austria, the Czech
30:13
systems throughout Austria, the Czech
30:13
systems throughout Austria, the Czech Republic, and Poland since 1988.
30:17
Republic, and Poland since 1988.
30:17
Republic, and Poland since 1988. So, in May 2011, I was in a narrow cave
30:21
So, in May 2011, I was in a narrow cave
30:21
So, in May 2011, I was in a narrow cave that a colleague had recently found.
30:24
that a colleague had recently found.
30:24
that a colleague had recently found. This was approximately 2 kilometers
30:25
This was approximately 2 kilometers
30:26
This was approximately 2 kilometers north of Opentron with on the opposite
30:28
north of Opentron with on the opposite
30:28
north of Opentron with on the opposite side of the descending mountain range in
30:30
side of the descending mountain range in
30:30
side of the descending mountain range in the foothills near the east bank of
30:32
the foothills near the east bank of
30:32
the foothills near the east bank of Halleter Lake. As I moved through the
30:36
Halleter Lake. As I moved through the
30:36
Halleter Lake. As I moved through the complex passageway, I started to hear
30:39
complex passageway, I started to hear
30:39
complex passageway, I started to hear voices emanating from the darkness ahead
30:41
voices emanating from the darkness ahead
30:41
voices emanating from the darkness ahead of me. I started collecting a few
30:44
of me. I started collecting a few
30:44
of me. I started collecting a few samples from the cave wall, chipping it
30:46
samples from the cave wall, chipping it
30:46
samples from the cave wall, chipping it with my pick. I moved deeper, maybe 50
30:49
with my pick. I moved deeper, maybe 50
30:49
with my pick. I moved deeper, maybe 50 meters, until I noticed the voices
30:52
meters, until I noticed the voices
30:52
meters, until I noticed the voices again. Now, I'm familiar with the echoes
30:54
again. Now, I'm familiar with the echoes
30:54
again. Now, I'm familiar with the echoes of the Doppler effect, but this was
30:56
of the Doppler effect, but this was
30:56
of the Doppler effect, but this was different. I stood quietly for several
30:59
different. I stood quietly for several
30:59
different. I stood quietly for several minutes until the voices stopped. Again,
31:02
minutes until the voices stopped. Again,
31:02
minutes until the voices stopped. Again, I I moved through the cave, almost
31:04
I I moved through the cave, almost
31:04
I I moved through the cave, almost crawling at this point. After another 40
31:07
crawling at this point. After another 40
31:07
crawling at this point. After another 40 meters, I ascended into a chamber that
31:09
meters, I ascended into a chamber that
31:09
meters, I ascended into a chamber that was big enough to accommodate several
31:11
was big enough to accommodate several
31:11
was big enough to accommodate several people.
31:12
people.
31:12
people. There were two wide openings on the
31:14
There were two wide openings on the
31:14
There were two wide openings on the opposite side of the chamber. Now, each
31:17
opposite side of the chamber. Now, each
31:17
opposite side of the chamber. Now, each looked like a machine had excavated it.
31:21
looked like a machine had excavated it.
31:21
looked like a machine had excavated it. There was also a noticeable rotting
31:23
There was also a noticeable rotting
31:23
There was also a noticeable rotting odor. As I examined the chamber, I
31:25
odor. As I examined the chamber, I
31:25
odor. As I examined the chamber, I noticed an odd red iridesence as I
31:28
noticed an odd red iridesence as I
31:28
noticed an odd red iridesence as I passed the light over the rock floor.
31:30
passed the light over the rock floor.
31:30
passed the light over the rock floor. When I knelt to collect a sample, I
31:33
When I knelt to collect a sample, I
31:33
When I knelt to collect a sample, I again heard voices coming from one of
31:35
again heard voices coming from one of
31:35
again heard voices coming from one of the passageways.
31:37
the passageways.
31:37
the passageways. Now, at this point, I was terrified and
31:39
Now, at this point, I was terrified and
31:39
Now, at this point, I was terrified and started to hurry back through the narrow
31:41
started to hurry back through the narrow
31:41
started to hurry back through the narrow cave. After I squeezed back several
31:44
cave. After I squeezed back several
31:44
cave. After I squeezed back several meters, I was able to turn my head just
31:46
meters, I was able to turn my head just
31:46
meters, I was able to turn my head just enough to look back into that dark
31:48
enough to look back into that dark
31:48
enough to look back into that dark chamber.
31:50
chamber.
31:50
chamber. A yellow light slowly made its way into
31:52
A yellow light slowly made its way into
31:52
A yellow light slowly made its way into the chamber from the left opening in the
31:54
the chamber from the left opening in the
31:54
the chamber from the left opening in the chamber. Then there were several yellow
31:56
chamber. Then there were several yellow
31:56
chamber. Then there were several yellow lights following the first. As the
31:59
lights following the first. As the
31:59
lights following the first. As the lights moved through the opening into
32:01
lights moved through the opening into
32:01
lights moved through the opening into the chamber, then back through the
32:03
the chamber, then back through the
32:03
the chamber, then back through the opening on the right, I saw the beings.
32:06
opening on the right, I saw the beings.
32:06
opening on the right, I saw the beings. The sight sent fear throughout my body.
32:09
The sight sent fear throughout my body.
32:09
The sight sent fear throughout my body. I was paralyzed.
32:11
I was paralyzed.
32:11
I was paralyzed. The creatures were humanoid in stature,
32:13
The creatures were humanoid in stature,
32:13
The creatures were humanoid in stature, but these were not human.
32:15
but these were not human.
32:16
but these were not human. each varied in height, but all looked
32:18
each varied in height, but all looked
32:18
each varied in height, but all looked the same. Muscular lizards that walked
32:20
the same. Muscular lizards that walked
32:20
the same. Muscular lizards that walked upright like humans.
32:22
upright like humans.
32:22
upright like humans. There is no better term that I can use
32:24
There is no better term that I can use
32:24
There is no better term that I can use to identify these beings. These
32:27
to identify these beings. These
32:27
to identify these beings. These creatures wore dark-coled full body
32:29
creatures wore dark-coled full body
32:30
creatures wore dark-coled full body uniforms that extended and covered the
32:31
uniforms that extended and covered the
32:31
uniforms that extended and covered the feet.
32:33
feet.
32:33
feet. I couldn't tell the exact color of the
32:35
I couldn't tell the exact color of the
32:35
I couldn't tell the exact color of the skin, but each had a pronounced muzzle.
32:38
skin, but each had a pronounced muzzle.
32:38
skin, but each had a pronounced muzzle. The long tails are very prominent and
32:40
The long tails are very prominent and
32:40
The long tails are very prominent and swiftly swayed back and forth as they
32:42
swiftly swayed back and forth as they
32:42
swiftly swayed back and forth as they moved forward. The arms and legs were
32:45
moved forward. The arms and legs were
32:45
moved forward. The arms and legs were massive. I could detect the musculature
32:48
massive. I could detect the musculature
32:48
massive. I could detect the musculature through the uniforms. There were voices
32:50
through the uniforms. There were voices
32:50
through the uniforms. There were voices also, as if they were talking to each
32:53
also, as if they were talking to each
32:53
also, as if they were talking to each other. The voices sounded human, though
32:55
other. The voices sounded human, though
32:55
other. The voices sounded human, though I could not detect the language.
32:58
I could not detect the language.
32:58
I could not detect the language. There were possibly 20 or more of these
33:00
There were possibly 20 or more of these
33:00
There were possibly 20 or more of these creatures as they walked single foul
33:02
creatures as they walked single foul
33:02
creatures as they walked single foul through the chamber and into the other
33:04
through the chamber and into the other
33:04
through the chamber and into the other opening.
33:08
Then, when I conceded it was safe to
33:10
Then, when I conceded it was safe to
33:10
Then, when I conceded it was safe to move, I quickly withdrew from the cave.
33:13
move, I quickly withdrew from the cave.
33:13
move, I quickly withdrew from the cave. I may have been in shock because I
33:15
I may have been in shock because I
33:15
I may have been in shock because I barely remember anything that happened
33:16
barely remember anything that happened
33:16
barely remember anything that happened from that point until I reached my
33:18
from that point until I reached my
33:18
from that point until I reached my office. I decided to keep a private
33:21
office. I decided to keep a private
33:21
office. I decided to keep a private journal regarding my encounter, but I
33:23
journal regarding my encounter, but I
33:23
journal regarding my encounter, but I have not discussed it with anyone else.
33:25
have not discussed it with anyone else.
33:25
have not discussed it with anyone else. My colleague who initially found the
33:27
My colleague who initially found the
33:27
My colleague who initially found the cave told me that he explored the cave
33:29
cave told me that he explored the cave
33:29
cave told me that he explored the cave since my encounter. Still, he had never
33:32
since my encounter. Still, he had never
33:32
since my encounter. Still, he had never mentioned anything about the chamber,
33:34
mentioned anything about the chamber,
33:34
mentioned anything about the chamber, other passageways, and bizarre beings.
33:37
other passageways, and bizarre beings.
33:37
other passageways, and bizarre beings. At that point, I'm starting to doubt
33:39
At that point, I'm starting to doubt
33:39
At that point, I'm starting to doubt that I witnessed these creatures. Is it
33:41
that I witnessed these creatures. Is it
33:41
that I witnessed these creatures. Is it possible that I hallucinated this
33:43
possible that I hallucinated this
33:43
possible that I hallucinated this encounter or possibly experienced
33:45
encounter or possibly experienced
33:45
encounter or possibly experienced something from the past or the future?
33:47
something from the past or the future?
33:47
something from the past or the future? I'm a trained professional who deals
33:48
I'm a trained professional who deals
33:48
I'm a trained professional who deals with reality, but my beliefs have been
33:51
with reality, but my beliefs have been
33:51
with reality, but my beliefs have been seriously shaken.
33:53
seriously shaken.
33:53
seriously shaken. I appreciate your introspection and
33:56
I appreciate your introspection and
33:56
I appreciate your introspection and thoughts as well as the observation of
33:59
thoughts as well as the observation of
33:59
thoughts as well as the observation of your readers. Thank you, Greor. Well,
34:03
your readers. Thank you, Greor. Well,
34:03
your readers. Thank you, Greor. Well, the fact that Greor wondered if his
34:05
the fact that Greor wondered if his
34:05
the fact that Greor wondered if his encounter was a scene from another time
34:07
encounter was a scene from another time
34:07
encounter was a scene from another time in the past or the future suggests that
34:10
in the past or the future suggests that
34:10
in the past or the future suggests that he may have answered his own question. I
34:13
he may have answered his own question. I
34:13
he may have answered his own question. I don't know. I haven't heard back from
34:14
don't know. I haven't heard back from
34:14
don't know. I haven't heard back from Gregor over all that time. So, um I
34:17
Gregor over all that time. So, um I
34:17
Gregor over all that time. So, um I don't know.
34:22
So, this next account, um
34:27
So, this next account, um
34:27
So, this next account, um I received uh it was May 2015. I
34:29
I received uh it was May 2015. I
34:29
I received uh it was May 2015. I received a telephone message from a
34:31
received a telephone message from a
34:31
received a telephone message from a woman in Muny, Indiana.
34:33
woman in Muny, Indiana.
34:33
woman in Muny, Indiana. She and a companion had witnessed a
34:36
She and a companion had witnessed a
34:36
She and a companion had witnessed a frightening and unexplained lizard-like
34:38
frightening and unexplained lizard-like
34:38
frightening and unexplained lizard-like humanoid while touring a cave in
34:40
humanoid while touring a cave in
34:40
humanoid while touring a cave in Harrison County, Indiana.
34:43
Harrison County, Indiana.
34:43
Harrison County, Indiana. I conducted two interviews with the
34:45
I conducted two interviews with the
34:45
I conducted two interviews with the witness whom I'll refer to as Gigi, and
34:48
witness whom I'll refer to as Gigi, and
34:48
witness whom I'll refer to as Gigi, and have listed the events described to me.
34:51
have listed the events described to me.
34:51
have listed the events described to me. Gigi is a Dominican national and her
34:53
Gigi is a Dominican national and her
34:53
Gigi is a Dominican national and her English is fair, but it was a bit of a
34:55
English is fair, but it was a bit of a
34:55
English is fair, but it was a bit of a challenge obtaining the information.
34:58
challenge obtaining the information.
34:58
challenge obtaining the information. So, I'm going to give you a
34:59
So, I'm going to give you a
34:59
So, I'm going to give you a chronological order as to what uh she
35:02
chronological order as to what uh she
35:02
chronological order as to what uh she told me uh and uh that's what I'll read
35:06
told me uh and uh that's what I'll read
35:06
told me uh and uh that's what I'll read from here on. It was Tuesday, August
35:09
from here on. It was Tuesday, August
35:09
from here on. It was Tuesday, August 26th, 2014, 2:30 p.m. during a tour at
35:13
26th, 2014, 2:30 p.m. during a tour at
35:13
26th, 2014, 2:30 p.m. during a tour at the Squire Boone Caverns in southern
35:16
the Squire Boone Caverns in southern
35:16
the Squire Boone Caverns in southern Indiana.
35:18
Indiana.
35:18
Indiana. The witness and her friend were with a
35:20
The witness and her friend were with a
35:20
The witness and her friend were with a group from Muny, Indiana. The cavern
35:23
group from Muny, Indiana. The cavern
35:23
group from Muny, Indiana. The cavern tour was part of the itinerary after
35:25
tour was part of the itinerary after
35:25
tour was part of the itinerary after spending the previous day shopping and
35:27
spending the previous day shopping and
35:27
spending the previous day shopping and touring Louisville, Kentucky.
35:30
touring Louisville, Kentucky.
35:30
touring Louisville, Kentucky. The tour had reached an area with many
35:32
The tour had reached an area with many
35:32
The tour had reached an area with many small underground waterfalls.
35:35
small underground waterfalls.
35:35
small underground waterfalls. There were a few large flat rocks on the
35:38
There were a few large flat rocks on the
35:38
There were a few large flat rocks on the right side of the waterfalls, including
35:39
right side of the waterfalls, including
35:40
right side of the waterfalls, including a few overhangs. Now, Gigi noticed that
35:42
a few overhangs. Now, Gigi noticed that
35:42
a few overhangs. Now, Gigi noticed that appeared to be a bright yellow eye
35:44
appeared to be a bright yellow eye
35:44
appeared to be a bright yellow eye shining from under one of the overhangs.
35:48
shining from under one of the overhangs.
35:48
shining from under one of the overhangs. She immediately got chills all over. Her
35:50
She immediately got chills all over. Her
35:50
She immediately got chills all over. Her friend asked what was she was looking
35:52
friend asked what was she was looking
35:52
friend asked what was she was looking at. So she pointed towards the rocks.
35:55
at. So she pointed towards the rocks.
35:55
at. So she pointed towards the rocks. She saw the same eye looking back at
35:57
She saw the same eye looking back at
35:57
She saw the same eye looking back at her. They stood there for about five
36:00
her. They stood there for about five
36:00
her. They stood there for about five minutes watching the eyes that appeared
36:01
minutes watching the eyes that appeared
36:01
minutes watching the eyes that appeared and disappeared.
36:04
and disappeared.
36:04
and disappeared. They were about 30 foot from the rock.
36:07
They were about 30 foot from the rock.
36:07
They were about 30 foot from the rock. There was movement as well, but it was
36:09
There was movement as well, but it was
36:09
There was movement as well, but it was different to make out because the
36:11
different to make out because the
36:11
different to make out because the lighting was dim or difficult to make
36:13
lighting was dim or difficult to make
36:13
lighting was dim or difficult to make out because the lighting was dim. Now,
36:15
out because the lighting was dim. Now,
36:15
out because the lighting was dim. Now, when the tour started to move on, Gigi
36:17
when the tour started to move on, Gigi
36:17
when the tour started to move on, Gigi looked back in the direction of the eye
36:19
looked back in the direction of the eye
36:19
looked back in the direction of the eye and saw something exit from under the
36:21
and saw something exit from under the
36:21
and saw something exit from under the overhang.
36:22
overhang.
36:22
overhang. She briefly stopped and watched. It
36:25
She briefly stopped and watched. It
36:25
She briefly stopped and watched. It crawled out onto the open rock surface
36:27
crawled out onto the open rock surface
36:27
crawled out onto the open rock surface and then stood up on its back legs.
36:29
and then stood up on its back legs.
36:29
and then stood up on its back legs. Almost immediately, it scured away in
36:31
Almost immediately, it scured away in
36:31
Almost immediately, it scured away in another crevice in the rock. It looked
36:34
another crevice in the rock. It looked
36:34
another crevice in the rock. It looked like a lizard of some kind. It had short
36:37
like a lizard of some kind. It had short
36:37
like a lizard of some kind. It had short tail with that was dark in color. The
36:40
tail with that was dark in color. The
36:40
tail with that was dark in color. The arms and legs were long, almost
36:42
arms and legs were long, almost
36:42
arms and legs were long, almost humanlike. Gigi thinks it was about 1
36:44
humanlike. Gigi thinks it was about 1
36:44
humanlike. Gigi thinks it was about 1 and 1/2t in height.
36:47
and 1/2t in height.
36:47
and 1/2t in height. She quickly rejoined the group but
36:49
She quickly rejoined the group but
36:49
She quickly rejoined the group but continued to watch behind her. Now, her
36:50
continued to watch behind her. Now, her
36:50
continued to watch behind her. Now, her friend did not see the lizard, but Gigi
36:52
friend did not see the lizard, but Gigi
36:52
friend did not see the lizard, but Gigi described it to her after they had got
36:55
described it to her after they had got
36:55
described it to her after they had got back to the bus.
36:58
back to the bus.
36:58
back to the bus. The friend gave her a uh Laura Zipan
37:01
The friend gave her a uh Laura Zipan
37:01
The friend gave her a uh Laura Zipan pill to keep her to calm her down. Gigi
37:05
pill to keep her to calm her down. Gigi
37:05
pill to keep her to calm her down. Gigi was shaking badly and others on the bus
37:07
was shaking badly and others on the bus
37:07
was shaking badly and others on the bus were noticing her. She did not mention
37:10
were noticing her. She did not mention
37:10
were noticing her. She did not mention what she saw to the other people in the
37:11
what she saw to the other people in the
37:11
what she saw to the other people in the group.
37:13
group.
37:13
group. The next day, Gigiville felt very ill.
37:17
The next day, Gigiville felt very ill.
37:17
The next day, Gigiville felt very ill. It may have been from the pill, but she
37:18
It may have been from the pill, but she
37:18
It may have been from the pill, but she thinks something happened to her
37:20
thinks something happened to her
37:20
thinks something happened to her physically and mentally because of what
37:22
physically and mentally because of what
37:22
physically and mentally because of what she saw. Gigi doesn't believe she was
37:25
she saw. Gigi doesn't believe she was
37:25
she saw. Gigi doesn't believe she was supposed to see that lizard being.
37:28
supposed to see that lizard being.
37:28
supposed to see that lizard being. Now,
37:30
Now,
37:30
Now, Gigi agreed to allow me to post some of
37:32
Gigi agreed to allow me to post some of
37:32
Gigi agreed to allow me to post some of the experience on the blog, uh, the
37:35
the experience on the blog, uh, the
37:35
the experience on the blog, uh, the sighting details and through personal
37:37
sighting details and through personal
37:37
sighting details and through personal information that also that that won't be
37:39
information that also that that won't be
37:39
information that also that that won't be disclosed.
37:41
disclosed.
37:41
disclosed. She's curious if others had seen
37:43
She's curious if others had seen
37:43
She's curious if others had seen something similar and if they did, what
37:45
something similar and if they did, what
37:45
something similar and if they did, what was the result?
37:48
was the result?
37:48
was the result? So, uh, could this been an underground
37:50
So, uh, could this been an underground
37:50
So, uh, could this been an underground population of Sorian humanoids, aliens
37:52
population of Sorian humanoids, aliens
37:52
population of Sorian humanoids, aliens on Earth? You know, I always go back to
37:55
on Earth? You know, I always go back to
37:55
on Earth? You know, I always go back to what David Ehart described to me over
37:57
what David Ehart described to me over
37:57
what David Ehart described to me over the years, um,
37:59
the years, um,
37:59
the years, um, are the really undergrounds of these
38:01
are the really undergrounds of these
38:01
are the really undergrounds of these beings.
38:07
Now, a woman in southeast Ohio claimed
38:10
Now, a woman in southeast Ohio claimed
38:10
Now, a woman in southeast Ohio claimed that a tribe of Bigfoot would harass her
38:12
that a tribe of Bigfoot would harass her
38:12
that a tribe of Bigfoot would harass her and her family beginning in 1962.
38:16
and her family beginning in 1962.
38:16
and her family beginning in 1962. At one point, when she was 12 years old,
38:18
At one point, when she was 12 years old,
38:18
At one point, when she was 12 years old, she was held captive in a cave by the
38:21
she was held captive in a cave by the
38:21
she was held captive in a cave by the creatures. The woman, who is now in her
38:24
creatures. The woman, who is now in her
38:24
creatures. The woman, who is now in her early early 60s, requested to remain
38:26
early early 60s, requested to remain
38:26
early early 60s, requested to remain anonymous and not to reveal the location
38:29
anonymous and not to reveal the location
38:29
anonymous and not to reveal the location Appalachia, where the incidents
38:31
Appalachia, where the incidents
38:31
Appalachia, where the incidents occurred.
38:32
occurred.
38:32
occurred. She stated, "I prefer not to say where
38:35
She stated, "I prefer not to say where
38:35
She stated, "I prefer not to say where this took place specifically, but one
38:38
this took place specifically, but one
38:38
this took place specifically, but one wants but no one wants an invasion of
38:41
wants but no one wants an invasion of
38:41
wants but no one wants an invasion of Bigfoot hunters on private land.
38:44
Bigfoot hunters on private land.
38:44
Bigfoot hunters on private land. Let people go to the public lands like
38:46
Let people go to the public lands like
38:46
Let people go to the public lands like the Wayne National Forest to look for
38:47
the Wayne National Forest to look for
38:47
the Wayne National Forest to look for Bigfoot. People down in the hills love
38:50
Bigfoot. People down in the hills love
38:50
Bigfoot. People down in the hills love where they live because it's quiet.
38:52
where they live because it's quiet.
38:52
where they live because it's quiet. There's fresh air, clean water, great
38:54
There's fresh air, clean water, great
38:54
There's fresh air, clean water, great conditions for grazing gardens and
38:56
conditions for grazing gardens and
38:56
conditions for grazing gardens and children.
38:58
children.
38:58
children. and the beings in the thick of nature to
39:00
and the beings in the thick of nature to
39:00
and the beings in the thick of nature to see the wild animals up close is
39:02
see the wild animals up close is
39:02
see the wild animals up close is something that we all value very much.
39:05
something that we all value very much.
39:05
something that we all value very much. I'd read that people work harder on
39:07
I'd read that people work harder on
39:07
I'd read that people work harder on gathering the ma gathering the mountain
39:09
gathering the ma gathering the mountain
39:09
gathering the ma gathering the mountain of witnesses eyewitness reports and
39:11
of witnesses eyewitness reports and
39:11
of witnesses eyewitness reports and experience that have been hidden in the
39:13
experience that have been hidden in the
39:13
experience that have been hidden in the past decades in this state than uh see
39:17
past decades in this state than uh see
39:17
past decades in this state than uh see them destroy nature. Now according to
39:19
them destroy nature. Now according to
39:19
them destroy nature. Now according to her she wasn't the only one experiencing
39:21
her she wasn't the only one experiencing
39:21
her she wasn't the only one experiencing the encounter. She continued the
39:23
the encounter. She continued the
39:23
the encounter. She continued the creatures were witnessed in part by my
39:25
creatures were witnessed in part by my
39:25
creatures were witnessed in part by my parents. People do need to know that
39:28
parents. People do need to know that
39:28
parents. People do need to know that these things happen to me. It still
39:30
these things happen to me. It still
39:30
these things happen to me. It still pains me greatly, but at least I could
39:32
pains me greatly, but at least I could
39:32
pains me greatly, but at least I could talk about it now in some part though
39:35
talk about it now in some part though
39:35
talk about it now in some part though without anyone knowing who I am. People
39:37
without anyone knowing who I am. People
39:37
without anyone knowing who I am. People are ruthless.
39:40
are ruthless.
39:40
are ruthless. Now, the woman also said that the
39:42
Now, the woman also said that the
39:42
Now, the woman also said that the incidents happened too often to keep a
39:44
incidents happened too often to keep a
39:44
incidents happened too often to keep a record of them and that some of the
39:45
record of them and that some of the
39:45
record of them and that some of the neighbors had similar experiences,
39:47
neighbors had similar experiences,
39:47
neighbors had similar experiences, including some young boys fishing in a
39:48
including some young boys fishing in a
39:48
including some young boys fishing in a nearby river. Now, these events were
39:51
nearby river. Now, these events were
39:51
nearby river. Now, these events were supposedly uh reported to the local
39:53
supposedly uh reported to the local
39:53
supposedly uh reported to the local police. She also states that at one
39:56
police. She also states that at one
39:56
police. She also states that at one point the huge Bigfoot came back to take
39:58
point the huge Bigfoot came back to take
39:58
point the huge Bigfoot came back to take her and her father shot it with a 12-
40:01
her and her father shot it with a 12-
40:01
her and her father shot it with a 12- gauge shotgun. She says the big one that
40:04
gauge shotgun. She says the big one that
40:04
gauge shotgun. She says the big one that had always come to take me out of my
40:06
had always come to take me out of my
40:06
had always come to take me out of my bedroom at night came this time during
40:08
bedroom at night came this time during
40:08
bedroom at night came this time during the day. Dad was about 15 ft from it.
40:12
the day. Dad was about 15 ft from it.
40:12
the day. Dad was about 15 ft from it. The shot was hitting this thing and
40:14
The shot was hitting this thing and
40:14
The shot was hitting this thing and every time it hit, he stomped hard in
40:16
every time it hit, he stomped hard in
40:16
every time it hit, he stomped hard in the ground with one foot after the
40:18
the ground with one foot after the
40:18
the ground with one foot after the other. My brothers and I ran up to my
40:21
other. My brothers and I ran up to my
40:21
other. My brothers and I ran up to my bedroom because the youngest said it was
40:23
bedroom because the youngest said it was
40:23
bedroom because the youngest said it was higher ground for a better defense and
40:26
higher ground for a better defense and
40:26
higher ground for a better defense and they were more over in the farmer's
40:28
they were more over in the farmer's
40:28
they were more over in the farmer's drainage ditch across the road. They
40:31
drainage ditch across the road. They
40:31
drainage ditch across the road. They were huge, too.
40:33
were huge, too.
40:33
were huge, too. What do you do as a kid and you see
40:35
What do you do as a kid and you see
40:36
What do you do as a kid and you see something like that? Good thing my three
40:38
something like that? Good thing my three
40:38
something like that? Good thing my three brothers were there with me to help
40:40
brothers were there with me to help
40:40
brothers were there with me to help protect me. I yelled to I yelled to them
40:43
protect me. I yelled to I yelled to them
40:43
protect me. I yelled to I yelled to them to leave or they would be hurt. They
40:46
to leave or they would be hurt. They
40:46
to leave or they would be hurt. They finally left, but there were a lot of
40:48
finally left, but there were a lot of
40:48
finally left, but there were a lot of days when we could could not leave our
40:51
days when we could could not leave our
40:51
days when we could could not leave our three acres. My brothers wanted to go
40:53
three acres. My brothers wanted to go
40:53
three acres. My brothers wanted to go check on the neighbors to see if they
40:55
check on the neighbors to see if they
40:55
check on the neighbors to see if they were okay or needed help. Now, she
40:58
were okay or needed help. Now, she
40:58
were okay or needed help. Now, she claims that the Bigfoot were of
40:59
claims that the Bigfoot were of
40:59
claims that the Bigfoot were of different sizes, male and female, but
41:01
different sizes, male and female, but
41:01
different sizes, male and female, but that the biggest one was 14 foot male
41:04
that the biggest one was 14 foot male
41:04
that the biggest one was 14 foot male with a head that was at least the size
41:06
with a head that was at least the size
41:06
with a head that was at least the size of a basketball.
41:09
of a basketball.
41:09
of a basketball. She says his hair was long and about the
41:11
She says his hair was long and about the
41:11
She says his hair was long and about the same texture as mine. As I recall, the
41:14
same texture as mine. As I recall, the
41:14
same texture as mine. As I recall, the hair on all of them was about the same
41:16
hair on all of them was about the same
41:16
hair on all of them was about the same shade of brown, like the color of a
41:18
shade of brown, like the color of a
41:18
shade of brown, like the color of a decomposed wood layer in the forest.
41:22
decomposed wood layer in the forest.
41:22
decomposed wood layer in the forest. I could see tan skin around its eyes and
41:25
I could see tan skin around its eyes and
41:25
I could see tan skin around its eyes and on its face, especially where it was
41:27
on its face, especially where it was
41:27
on its face, especially where it was facial hair. It was sparser with glimps
41:29
facial hair. It was sparser with glimps
41:29
facial hair. It was sparser with glimps of skin showing through that that area
41:31
of skin showing through that that area
41:31
of skin showing through that that area as well. I couldn't make out a neck. It
41:35
as well. I couldn't make out a neck. It
41:35
as well. I couldn't make out a neck. It chin was broad and his teeth were about
41:37
chin was broad and his teeth were about
41:37
chin was broad and his teeth were about the size of the nail on my middle
41:39
the size of the nail on my middle
41:39
the size of the nail on my middle finger, but they were flatter. and he
41:41
finger, but they were flatter. and he
41:41
finger, but they were flatter. and he had a mouth full of them, meaning that
41:43
had a mouth full of them, meaning that
41:43
had a mouth full of them, meaning that the width of his bite was wide. His
41:45
the width of his bite was wide. His
41:46
the width of his bite was wide. His mouth was wide enough to show them all
41:47
mouth was wide enough to show them all
41:48
mouth was wide enough to show them all of them. His eyes were dark with some
41:50
of them. His eyes were dark with some
41:50
of them. His eyes were dark with some white around them, less so than human
41:53
white around them, less so than human
41:53
white around them, less so than human eyes. There were crows feet at the
41:56
eyes. There were crows feet at the
41:56
eyes. There were crows feet at the opposite end of them. His skin was
41:58
opposite end of them. His skin was
41:58
opposite end of them. His skin was weathered like a farmer who spent a lot
41:59
weathered like a farmer who spent a lot
42:00
weathered like a farmer who spent a lot of time outside.
42:01
of time outside.
42:01
of time outside. His shoulders were vast, though I did
42:04
His shoulders were vast, though I did
42:04
His shoulders were vast, though I did see his collarbone on one side, which
42:07
see his collarbone on one side, which
42:07
see his collarbone on one side, which looked thick compared to a humans. He
42:09
looked thick compared to a humans. He
42:09
looked thick compared to a humans. He was muscular and heavily built
42:13
was muscular and heavily built
42:13
was muscular and heavily built but in no way fat.
42:15
but in no way fat.
42:15
but in no way fat. There were adult fe there were there
42:18
There were adult fe there were there
42:18
There were adult fe there were there were adult female and others who uh were
42:21
were adult female and others who uh were
42:21
were adult female and others who uh were also as big as the female but didn't
42:23
also as big as the female but didn't
42:23
also as big as the female but didn't seem to be young or old.
42:26
seem to be young or old.
42:26
seem to be young or old. I don't know if they were all related
42:28
I don't know if they were all related
42:28
I don't know if they were all related but they seemed to be a close-knit
42:30
but they seemed to be a close-knit
42:30
but they seemed to be a close-knit group.
42:31
group.
42:32
group. So, there was an adult male and female
42:33
So, there was an adult male and female
42:34
So, there was an adult male and female who seemed to be a couple, and the
42:35
who seemed to be a couple, and the
42:35
who seemed to be a couple, and the others who seemed to have maturity and
42:37
others who seemed to have maturity and
42:37
others who seemed to have maturity and body mass suggested that they were all
42:39
body mass suggested that they were all
42:40
body mass suggested that they were all or what you'd consider 40something
42:41
or what you'd consider 40something
42:41
or what you'd consider 40something humans. Other than that, I can't tell
42:44
humans. Other than that, I can't tell
42:44
humans. Other than that, I can't tell what age any of them were. Now, the
42:47
what age any of them were. Now, the
42:47
what age any of them were. Now, the woman described being taken captive. She
42:50
woman described being taken captive. She
42:50
woman described being taken captive. She says, "Many of my memories of these
42:52
says, "Many of my memories of these
42:52
says, "Many of my memories of these creatures were so traumatic that my mind
42:54
creatures were so traumatic that my mind
42:54
creatures were so traumatic that my mind hid them from me. I have no idea what
42:57
hid them from me. I have no idea what
42:57
hid them from me. I have no idea what else I've experienced with them in my
42:59
else I've experienced with them in my
42:59
else I've experienced with them in my childhood yet. You see, the memories are
43:02
childhood yet. You see, the memories are
43:02
childhood yet. You see, the memories are still popping up on the surface. And
43:04
still popping up on the surface. And
43:04
still popping up on the surface. And I've got to tell you, it's it's not a
43:06
I've got to tell you, it's it's not a
43:06
I've got to tell you, it's it's not a pleasant thing to know that you've been
43:07
pleasant thing to know that you've been
43:07
pleasant thing to know that you've been taken innumerable times by these
43:09
taken innumerable times by these
43:09
taken innumerable times by these creatures across many hills far from
43:11
creatures across many hills far from
43:11
creatures across many hills far from your home. I have no idea what
43:14
your home. I have no idea what
43:14
your home. I have no idea what transpired while I was with them, but
43:16
transpired while I was with them, but
43:16
transpired while I was with them, but each time they took me, I was out all
43:19
each time they took me, I was out all
43:19
each time they took me, I was out all night long.
43:21
night long.
43:21
night long. She suffered in other ways as well. She
43:23
She suffered in other ways as well. She
43:23
She suffered in other ways as well. She said, "I was being used in a tugof-war
43:26
said, "I was being used in a tugof-war
43:26
said, "I was being used in a tugof-war and neither side was winning. Certain
43:28
and neither side was winning. Certain
43:28
and neither side was winning. Certain people at the nearby churches were told
43:30
people at the nearby churches were told
43:30
people at the nearby churches were told what was going on. So they they take me
43:33
what was going on. So they they take me
43:33
what was going on. So they they take me aside and anoint me with oil and lay
43:35
aside and anoint me with oil and lay
43:35
aside and anoint me with oil and lay hands on me, praying out loud. And all I
43:37
hands on me, praying out loud. And all I
43:37
hands on me, praying out loud. And all I wanted to do was lie down and go to
43:39
wanted to do was lie down and go to
43:39
wanted to do was lie down and go to sleep from that circus.
43:42
sleep from that circus.
43:42
sleep from that circus. I was confined to the house for weeks,
43:44
I was confined to the house for weeks,
43:44
I was confined to the house for weeks, not being allowed to look out any
43:46
not being allowed to look out any
43:46
not being allowed to look out any windows."
43:47
windows."
43:47
windows." Now, she states that most of the time
43:49
Now, she states that most of the time
43:49
Now, she states that most of the time her captivity was peaceful, but
43:51
her captivity was peaceful, but
43:51
her captivity was peaceful, but occasionally the creatures became
43:53
occasionally the creatures became
43:53
occasionally the creatures became violent. She said, "I was probably
43:55
violent. She said, "I was probably
43:55
violent. She said, "I was probably around 12 when I woke up underground in
43:58
around 12 when I woke up underground in
43:58
around 12 when I woke up underground in a cave that was dripping water from
44:00
a cave that was dripping water from
44:00
a cave that was dripping water from roots I could see stretched out below
44:02
roots I could see stretched out below
44:02
roots I could see stretched out below the ground." You can't imagine the
44:04
the ground." You can't imagine the
44:04
the ground." You can't imagine the horror. I was screaming my lungs out,
44:06
horror. I was screaming my lungs out,
44:06
horror. I was screaming my lungs out, and after a while, I ran out of force to
44:09
and after a while, I ran out of force to
44:09
and after a while, I ran out of force to make any sounds, but the air kept coming
44:11
make any sounds, but the air kept coming
44:11
make any sounds, but the air kept coming out of me. I could see these creatures
44:14
out of me. I could see these creatures
44:14
out of me. I could see these creatures surrounding me as I lay there.
44:17
surrounding me as I lay there.
44:17
surrounding me as I lay there. unable to move on this great slab of
44:19
unable to move on this great slab of
44:19
unable to move on this great slab of rock. I wanted badly to scream some
44:23
rock. I wanted badly to scream some
44:23
rock. I wanted badly to scream some more, but it was just too I was just too
44:25
more, but it was just too I was just too
44:25
more, but it was just too I was just too tired to do anymore. When I relaxed,
44:27
tired to do anymore. When I relaxed,
44:28
tired to do anymore. When I relaxed, they all started smiling and laughing. I
44:30
they all started smiling and laughing. I
44:30
they all started smiling and laughing. I thought, "Okay, they could have killed
44:32
thought, "Okay, they could have killed
44:32
thought, "Okay, they could have killed me and eaten me, but they didn't." Some
44:35
me and eaten me, but they didn't." Some
44:35
me and eaten me, but they didn't." Some of them were kind, but then again, I'd
44:37
of them were kind, but then again, I'd
44:37
of them were kind, but then again, I'd seen cats play with mice for hours
44:39
seen cats play with mice for hours
44:39
seen cats play with mice for hours before killing and eating them.
44:42
before killing and eating them.
44:42
before killing and eating them. She says that she remembers everything
44:44
She says that she remembers everything
44:44
She says that she remembers everything clearly and so does her family. She says
44:47
clearly and so does her family. She says
44:47
clearly and so does her family. She says these are not childhood nightmares as
44:49
these are not childhood nightmares as
44:50
these are not childhood nightmares as evidenced by the incident that took
44:51
evidenced by the incident that took
44:51
evidenced by the incident that took place around the time I was 12 or 13.
44:55
place around the time I was 12 or 13.
44:55
place around the time I was 12 or 13. Mom asked me questions each time he the
44:57
Mom asked me questions each time he the
44:57
Mom asked me questions each time he the bigfoot came back to my window and took
45:00
bigfoot came back to my window and took
45:00
bigfoot came back to my window and took me with him. He took me with his he took
45:04
me with him. He took me with his he took
45:04
me with him. He took me with his he took me with him many times. After talking to
45:08
me with him many times. After talking to
45:08
me with him many times. After talking to me to get me to tell the big guy not to
45:10
me to get me to tell the big guy not to
45:10
me to get me to tell the big guy not to take me with him and that they told me
45:13
take me with him and that they told me
45:13
take me with him and that they told me to tell him no, I was go I was going and
45:18
to tell him no, I was go I was going and
45:18
to tell him no, I was go I was going and that not and that not seemed to work but
45:21
that not and that not seemed to work but
45:21
that not and that not seemed to work but pretty much gave up asking me anything.
45:25
pretty much gave up asking me anything.
45:25
pretty much gave up asking me anything. She did talk to dad about how to stop
45:27
She did talk to dad about how to stop
45:27
She did talk to dad about how to stop this from happening as she thought it
45:29
this from happening as she thought it
45:29
this from happening as she thought it was affecting my health and robbing us
45:31
was affecting my health and robbing us
45:31
was affecting my health and robbing us of our sleep.
45:33
of our sleep.
45:33
of our sleep. There was the concern that they did the
45:37
There was the concern that they did the
45:37
There was the concern that they did the wrong thing. This creature could kill
45:39
wrong thing. This creature could kill
45:39
wrong thing. This creature could kill anyone in the house. Mom often wept to
45:42
anyone in the house. Mom often wept to
45:42
anyone in the house. Mom often wept to my older sisters about this thing, big
45:44
my older sisters about this thing, big
45:44
my older sisters about this thing, big hairy thing that got into the K chicken
45:47
hairy thing that got into the K chicken
45:47
hairy thing that got into the K chicken coop and how she needed their help to
45:50
coop and how she needed their help to
45:50
coop and how she needed their help to convince dad to something to do
45:52
convince dad to something to do
45:52
convince dad to something to do something to stop this before someone
45:55
something to stop this before someone
45:55
something to stop this before someone got hurt.
45:57
got hurt.
45:57
got hurt. She told them not to go near me and told
45:59
She told them not to go near me and told
45:59
She told them not to go near me and told me not to go near them. She was quite
46:02
me not to go near them. She was quite
46:02
me not to go near them. She was quite fearful and I can't blame her.
46:05
fearful and I can't blame her.
46:06
fearful and I can't blame her. Then the family decided to move her bed
46:08
Then the family decided to move her bed
46:08
Then the family decided to move her bed downstairs, but this appeared to
46:09
downstairs, but this appeared to
46:09
downstairs, but this appeared to frustrate the large male Bigfoot.
46:13
frustrate the large male Bigfoot.
46:13
frustrate the large male Bigfoot. Anyway, she said, "I remember hearing
46:15
Anyway, she said, "I remember hearing
46:16
Anyway, she said, "I remember hearing him pecking at my window upstairs, but I
46:19
him pecking at my window upstairs, but I
46:19
him pecking at my window upstairs, but I was strictly forbidding forbidden for
46:21
was strictly forbidding forbidden for
46:21
was strictly forbidding forbidden for leaving the area for any reason. He
46:24
leaving the area for any reason. He
46:24
leaving the area for any reason. He banged on the side of the house, and dad
46:25
banged on the side of the house, and dad
46:25
banged on the side of the house, and dad would yell at him to go away, that he
46:28
would yell at him to go away, that he
46:28
would yell at him to go away, that he wasn't going to see me anymore." And
46:29
wasn't going to see me anymore." And
46:29
wasn't going to see me anymore." And that that was that.
46:32
that that was that.
46:32
that that was that. He made these loud grunts and stomped on
46:34
He made these loud grunts and stomped on
46:34
He made these loud grunts and stomped on the ground to show his displeasure. I'd
46:37
the ground to show his displeasure. I'd
46:37
the ground to show his displeasure. I'd heard his thoughts in my head as if we
46:39
heard his thoughts in my head as if we
46:39
heard his thoughts in my head as if we they were ask uh he were asking where I
46:41
they were ask uh he were asking where I
46:42
they were ask uh he were asking where I was. Now, one day when I was 19, we were
46:45
was. Now, one day when I was 19, we were
46:45
was. Now, one day when I was 19, we were on my parents' front stoop talking.
46:48
on my parents' front stoop talking.
46:48
on my parents' front stoop talking. Before I left, there was this very long,
46:50
Before I left, there was this very long,
46:50
Before I left, there was this very long, deafening, deep scream like a man was
46:53
deafening, deep scream like a man was
46:53
deafening, deep scream like a man was getting murdered up the road in the
46:55
getting murdered up the road in the
46:55
getting murdered up the road in the woods.
46:56
woods.
46:56
woods. Sound did carry especially on cold
46:58
Sound did carry especially on cold
46:58
Sound did carry especially on cold nights, but this had excessive volume to
47:01
nights, but this had excessive volume to
47:01
nights, but this had excessive volume to it and no one human could have ever held
47:04
it and no one human could have ever held
47:04
it and no one human could have ever held a fullon scream that long. I thought
47:08
a fullon scream that long. I thought
47:08
a fullon scream that long. I thought someone was being heard up there and my
47:10
someone was being heard up there and my
47:10
someone was being heard up there and my dad refused to call the sheriff's office
47:12
dad refused to call the sheriff's office
47:12
dad refused to call the sheriff's office to report it. I thought my dad had lost
47:15
to report it. I thought my dad had lost
47:15
to report it. I thought my dad had lost it.
47:16
it.
47:16
it. But she says she called the sheriff when
47:19
But she says she called the sheriff when
47:19
But she says she called the sheriff when she returned home. She said, 'The thing
47:22
she returned home. She said, 'The thing
47:22
she returned home. She said, 'The thing the things that they said made me wonder
47:25
the things that they said made me wonder
47:25
the things that they said made me wonder if they were scared of the woods. I
47:29
if they were scared of the woods. I
47:29
if they were scared of the woods. I asked if they couldn't look for vehicle
47:31
asked if they couldn't look for vehicle
47:31
asked if they couldn't look for vehicle tracks or bootprints up that lane to the
47:33
tracks or bootprints up that lane to the
47:33
tracks or bootprints up that lane to the gate, and they finally said that they'd
47:35
gate, and they finally said that they'd
47:35
gate, and they finally said that they'd go down there the next day to check.
47:38
go down there the next day to check.
47:38
go down there the next day to check. Now, they appreciated that I described
47:39
Now, they appreciated that I described
47:40
Now, they appreciated that I described the place, and it helped them feel more
47:42
the place, and it helped them feel more
47:42
the place, and it helped them feel more at ease. They kept saying the station
47:45
at ease. They kept saying the station
47:45
at ease. They kept saying the station policy was not to go into the woods for
47:47
policy was not to go into the woods for
47:47
policy was not to go into the woods for any reason.
47:49
any reason.
47:49
any reason. The neighbors and the other kids at
47:50
The neighbors and the other kids at
47:50
The neighbors and the other kids at school also spoke of their encounters.
47:53
school also spoke of their encounters.
47:53
school also spoke of their encounters. She said, "We weren't talking about our
47:56
She said, "We weren't talking about our
47:56
She said, "We weren't talking about our experiences with them, but we were
47:57
experiences with them, but we were
47:57
experiences with them, but we were listening to what the others were having
47:59
listening to what the others were having
47:59
listening to what the others were having to deal with at their places. They
48:02
to deal with at their places. They
48:02
to deal with at their places. They called them monsters, creatures, monkey
48:04
called them monsters, creatures, monkey
48:04
called them monsters, creatures, monkey men, giants, etc. We listened to what
48:07
men, giants, etc. We listened to what
48:07
men, giants, etc. We listened to what other neighbors would tell us about them
48:09
other neighbors would tell us about them
48:09
other neighbors would tell us about them because they thought no one was likely
48:11
because they thought no one was likely
48:11
because they thought no one was likely to believe kids who heard it and passed
48:13
to believe kids who heard it and passed
48:13
to believe kids who heard it and passed it on." The neighbors next door never
48:16
it on." The neighbors next door never
48:16
it on." The neighbors next door never spoke about their experience.
48:18
spoke about their experience.
48:18
spoke about their experience. The woman also added, "Many times I've
48:21
The woman also added, "Many times I've
48:21
The woman also added, "Many times I've read authors saying that they wish they
48:23
read authors saying that they wish they
48:23
read authors saying that they wish they knew they wish the that they would share
48:28
knew they wish the that they would share
48:28
knew they wish the that they would share what they know about the world." Well,
48:30
what they know about the world." Well,
48:30
what they know about the world." Well, that's why I've shared this. Talking
48:33
that's why I've shared this. Talking
48:33
that's why I've shared this. Talking about these things has not been easy. I
48:36
about these things has not been easy. I
48:36
about these things has not been easy. I hope it brings awareness to the
48:37
hope it brings awareness to the
48:37
hope it brings awareness to the suffering of experiencers and witnesses
48:40
suffering of experiencers and witnesses
48:40
suffering of experiencers and witnesses and allows them to speak openly about
48:42
and allows them to speak openly about
48:42
and allows them to speak openly about what has happened to them. Unless we all
48:45
what has happened to them. Unless we all
48:45
what has happened to them. Unless we all speak the truth, the world won't know
48:47
speak the truth, the world won't know
48:48
speak the truth, the world won't know what's being hidden and continues to be
48:49
what's being hidden and continues to be
48:50
what's being hidden and continues to be hidden from us.
48:52
hidden from us.
48:52
hidden from us. Do we want future generations to carry
48:54
Do we want future generations to carry
48:54
Do we want future generations to carry on living the same lie? Our world is
48:57
on living the same lie? Our world is
48:57
on living the same lie? Our world is richer and more interesting than most
48:58
richer and more interesting than most
48:58
richer and more interesting than most people would ever imagine. These are not
49:01
people would ever imagine. These are not
49:01
people would ever imagine. These are not just creatures. They are quite
49:03
just creatures. They are quite
49:03
just creatures. They are quite intelligent and resourceful enough to
49:05
intelligent and resourceful enough to
49:05
intelligent and resourceful enough to keep from being caught or killed.
49:09
keep from being caught or killed.
49:09
keep from being caught or killed. So, that was the last account, folks.
49:10
So, that was the last account, folks.
49:10
So, that was the last account, folks. You got any questions?
49:13
You got any questions?
49:13
You got any questions? Put them in the chat. All caps, please.
49:16
Put them in the chat. All caps, please.
49:16
Put them in the chat. All caps, please. Got a nice crowd in here tonight as
49:18
Got a nice crowd in here tonight as
49:18
Got a nice crowd in here tonight as well.
49:30
I know that last account was a bit drawn
49:32
I know that last account was a bit drawn
49:32
I know that last account was a bit drawn out, kind of hard to read as well, but
49:34
out, kind of hard to read as well, but
49:34
out, kind of hard to read as well, but uh
49:37
uh
49:37
uh you know, you hear things like that, you
49:38
you know, you hear things like that, you
49:38
you know, you hear things like that, you wonder how real are those encounters? I
49:41
wonder how real are those encounters? I
49:41
wonder how real are those encounters? I mean,
49:49
and I see John has put in here, I heard
49:52
and I see John has put in here, I heard
49:52
and I see John has put in here, I heard reptilians came out of the sewers during
49:54
reptilians came out of the sewers during
49:54
reptilians came out of the sewers during Hurricane Katrina. Thanks, Lon. Um,
49:57
Hurricane Katrina. Thanks, Lon. Um,
49:57
Hurricane Katrina. Thanks, Lon. Um, I had I had done a series of encounter
50:01
I had I had done a series of encounter
50:01
I had I had done a series of encounter reports from a former
50:04
reports from a former
50:04
reports from a former New Orleans police officer
50:08
New Orleans police officer
50:08
New Orleans police officer who um who's now living in Chicago that
50:11
who um who's now living in Chicago that
50:11
who um who's now living in Chicago that swears that he was he encountered
50:14
swears that he was he encountered
50:14
swears that he was he encountered reptilian beings right after Katrina.
50:18
reptilian beings right after Katrina.
50:18
reptilian beings right after Katrina. You know, he has sent me countless
50:21
You know, he has sent me countless
50:22
You know, he has sent me countless encounters and experiences he has had.
50:24
encounters and experiences he has had.
50:24
encounters and experiences he has had. One day I'll go ahead and pull all them
50:26
One day I'll go ahead and pull all them
50:26
One day I'll go ahead and pull all them back out and and either put them in a
50:29
back out and and either put them in a
50:29
back out and and either put them in a post, a couple posts, or even talk about
50:31
post, a couple posts, or even talk about
50:31
post, a couple posts, or even talk about them on on the radio show. But um it's
50:35
them on on the radio show. But um it's
50:35
them on on the radio show. But um it's uh it's quite a story. And you know,
50:37
uh it's quite a story. And you know,
50:37
uh it's quite a story. And you know, also, you know, I've talked to Dark
50:39
also, you know, I've talked to Dark
50:39
also, you know, I've talked to Dark Waters many times about this because he
50:41
Waters many times about this because he
50:41
Waters many times about this because he lives in New Orleans. He's heard a lot
50:43
lives in New Orleans. He's heard a lot
50:43
lives in New Orleans. He's heard a lot of stuff. So, um
50:47
of stuff. So, um
50:47
of stuff. So, um he's talked about this as well. So, who
50:49
he's talked about this as well. So, who
50:49
he's talked about this as well. So, who knows?
50:53
Dagnamit,
50:55
Dagnamit,
50:55
Dagnamit, how do you think there would be lighting
50:58
how do you think there would be lighting
50:58
how do you think there would be lighting in a golf cart in a cave from reptoids?
51:00
in a golf cart in a cave from reptoids?
51:00
in a golf cart in a cave from reptoids? I have no idea. I mean, was it a
51:03
I have no idea. I mean, was it a
51:03
I have no idea. I mean, was it a facility behind the rock face? I I don't
51:06
facility behind the rock face? I I don't
51:06
facility behind the rock face? I I don't know.
51:08
know.
51:08
know. Was there an opening on the other side
51:10
Was there an opening on the other side
51:10
Was there an opening on the other side for these scenes to get through? Was
51:11
for these scenes to get through? Was
51:11
for these scenes to get through? Was this something involved the government
51:13
this something involved the government
51:13
this something involved the government or I mean, the government did close it
51:16
or I mean, the government did close it
51:16
or I mean, the government did close it off after a while, so I don't know what
51:19
off after a while, so I don't know what
51:19
off after a while, so I don't know what he saw.
51:21
he saw.
51:21
he saw. He seemed very credible though to me.
51:27
Nicola
51:30
ASMR. I wonder if technology advances
51:33
ASMR. I wonder if technology advances
51:33
ASMR. I wonder if technology advances alter or increases reports behavior of
51:36
alter or increases reports behavior of
51:36
alter or increases reports behavior of these beings. I I think to a degree they
51:39
these beings. I I think to a degree they
51:39
these beings. I I think to a degree they may. Um,
51:42
may. Um,
51:42
may. Um, but I I I think as more people come
51:44
but I I I think as more people come
51:44
but I I I think as more people come forward and talk about these
51:46
forward and talk about these
51:46
forward and talk about these experiences,
51:48
experiences,
51:48
experiences, I think it's becoming more mainstream.
51:50
I think it's becoming more mainstream.
51:50
I think it's becoming more mainstream. People are look
51:53
People are look
51:53
People are look 20 years ago, I wouldn't get stories
51:55
20 years ago, I wouldn't get stories
51:55
20 years ago, I wouldn't get stories like this come to me. I mean, people
51:57
like this come to me. I mean, people
51:57
like this come to me. I mean, people just did not talk about them.
52:00
just did not talk about them.
52:00
just did not talk about them. So uh but there may be something as far
52:02
So uh but there may be something as far
52:02
So uh but there may be something as far as technology, people understanding
52:04
as technology, people understanding
52:04
as technology, people understanding technology and other stuff, but I think
52:06
technology and other stuff, but I think
52:06
technology and other stuff, but I think people are just less inhibited about
52:09
people are just less inhibited about
52:09
people are just less inhibited about coming forward and talking about these
52:10
coming forward and talking about these
52:10
coming forward and talking about these encounters.
52:15
Jose Sanchez Lon have Pomper Pomeberos
52:19
Jose Sanchez Lon have Pomper Pomeberos
52:19
Jose Sanchez Lon have Pomper Pomeberos ever been involved in inner earth
52:21
ever been involved in inner earth
52:21
ever been involved in inner earth stories? They just seem to appear on
52:24
stories? They just seem to appear on
52:24
stories? They just seem to appear on rural roads or small towns in Central
52:26
rural roads or small towns in Central
52:26
rural roads or small towns in Central and South America. I don't know. I've
52:29
and South America. I don't know. I've
52:29
and South America. I don't know. I've I've heard a lot of stories from down in
52:33
I've heard a lot of stories from down in
52:33
I've heard a lot of stories from down in uh in South America and Central America,
52:35
uh in South America and Central America,
52:35
uh in South America and Central America, but um
52:38
but um
52:38
but um and honestly some of the accounts that
52:40
and honestly some of the accounts that
52:40
and honestly some of the accounts that come from those regions are much
52:44
come from those regions are much
52:44
come from those regions are much different than we get up here in North
52:45
different than we get up here in North
52:45
different than we get up here in North America. So, um I don't I don't know. Is
52:49
America. So, um I don't I don't know. Is
52:49
America. So, um I don't I don't know. Is it something? Could they be alien
52:50
it something? Could they be alien
52:50
it something? Could they be alien beings? Could it be something that we
52:52
beings? Could it be something that we
52:52
beings? Could it be something that we just don't know about?
52:54
just don't know about?
52:54
just don't know about? It's hard to tell. But um
52:59
you know I don't get a whole lot of
53:00
you know I don't get a whole lot of
53:00
you know I don't get a whole lot of inner earth stories but occasionally I
53:03
inner earth stories but occasionally I
53:03
inner earth stories but occasionally I will get one and uh
53:06
will get one and uh
53:06
will get one and uh many of them have come from South
53:08
many of them have come from South
53:08
many of them have come from South America but they're usually pretty
53:10
America but they're usually pretty
53:10
America but they're usually pretty brief.
53:13
And of course the the media down there
53:15
And of course the the media down there
53:15
And of course the the media down there as well
53:18
as well
53:18
as well they they have no issue about printing
53:21
they they have no issue about printing
53:21
they they have no issue about printing these these stories also. So, um, you
53:25
these these stories also. So, um, you
53:25
these these stories also. So, um, you can almost find something very
53:27
can almost find something very
53:27
can almost find something very outrageous and very similar that being
53:29
outrageous and very similar that being
53:29
outrageous and very similar that being reported out every week or so. So, um,
53:33
reported out every week or so. So, um,
53:34
reported out every week or so. So, um, but I do have I I do have some sources
53:36
but I do have I I do have some sources
53:36
but I do have I I do have some sources that come in to me occasionally.
53:42
Can do you think government underground
53:44
Can do you think government underground
53:44
Can do you think government underground tunnels have anything to do with
53:46
tunnels have anything to do with
53:46
tunnels have anything to do with underground beings?
53:49
underground beings?
53:49
underground beings? There have been accounts um where people
53:53
There have been accounts um where people
53:53
There have been accounts um where people have been in undergrounds, government
53:55
have been in undergrounds, government
53:56
have been in undergrounds, government undergrounds or
53:58
undergrounds or
53:58
undergrounds or you know municipal undergrounds
54:00
you know municipal undergrounds
54:00
you know municipal undergrounds especially in Missouri where um people
54:04
especially in Missouri where um people
54:04
especially in Missouri where um people have encountered these beings or
54:06
have encountered these beings or
54:06
have encountered these beings or something unknown that's described as
54:09
something unknown that's described as
54:09
something unknown that's described as either being reptilian or humanoid.
54:13
either being reptilian or humanoid.
54:13
either being reptilian or humanoid. Um
54:16
I I think it does have something to do
54:18
I I think it does have something to do
54:18
I I think it does have something to do with it. why it is. Are they in cahoots
54:20
with it. why it is. Are they in cahoots
54:20
with it. why it is. Are they in cahoots with the government? Possibly. You think
54:22
with the government? Possibly. You think
54:22
with the government? Possibly. You think if they weren't, they root them out of
54:25
if they weren't, they root them out of
54:25
if they weren't, they root them out of there, but apparently there there's a
54:27
there, but apparently there there's a
54:27
there, but apparently there there's a connection somehow.
54:34
Damn it. Have you ever heard of a rang a
54:37
Damn it. Have you ever heard of a rang a
54:37
Damn it. Have you ever heard of a rang a kangaroo horse?
54:40
kangaroo horse?
54:40
kangaroo horse? No, I haven't. That's the first time
54:42
No, I haven't. That's the first time
54:42
No, I haven't. That's the first time I've heard that.
54:46
I've heard that.
54:46
I've heard that. If you have any stories concerning that,
54:48
If you have any stories concerning that,
54:48
If you have any stories concerning that, please send them to me. Can's quatch. Do
54:50
please send them to me. Can's quatch. Do
54:50
please send them to me. Can's quatch. Do you think underground aliens have lived
54:52
you think underground aliens have lived
54:52
you think underground aliens have lived underground for as long as man has been
54:54
underground for as long as man has been
54:54
underground for as long as man has been here?
54:57
here?
54:57
here? Honestly,
54:59
Honestly,
54:59
Honestly, possibly.
55:00
possibly.
55:00
possibly. Possibly. You know, you go back in time
55:03
Possibly. You know, you go back in time
55:03
Possibly. You know, you go back in time and
55:04
and
55:04
and hear legends and stuff of undergrounds.
55:07
hear legends and stuff of undergrounds.
55:07
hear legends and stuff of undergrounds. Even even the the indigenous people used
55:09
Even even the the indigenous people used
55:09
Even even the the indigenous people used to talk about the ant people and and
55:10
to talk about the ant people and and
55:10
to talk about the ant people and and other creatures that lived underground
55:14
other creatures that lived underground
55:14
other creatures that lived underground and that they dealt with. I mean, it
55:16
and that they dealt with. I mean, it
55:16
and that they dealt with. I mean, it very well could have been. I mean, how
55:18
very well could have been. I mean, how
55:18
very well could have been. I mean, how far back? I don't know. But, uh, a lot
55:22
far back? I don't know. But, uh, a lot
55:22
far back? I don't know. But, uh, a lot of the lore,
55:24
of the lore,
55:24
of the lore, you know, you you do read about and hear
55:26
you know, you you do read about and hear
55:26
you know, you you do read about and hear about even in some of the pictographs
55:29
about even in some of the pictographs
55:29
about even in some of the pictographs and such, you see these illustrations of
55:31
and such, you see these illustrations of
55:31
and such, you see these illustrations of these beings.
55:34
these beings.
55:34
these beings. I don't know how true it is, but
55:39
I don't know how true it is, but
55:39
I don't know how true it is, but I guess it's to be left to each one's
55:41
I guess it's to be left to each one's
55:41
I guess it's to be left to each one's individual imagination as to what they
55:43
individual imagination as to what they
55:44
individual imagination as to what they really are.
55:48
Jose Sanchez, have you ever seen the
55:50
Jose Sanchez, have you ever seen the
55:50
Jose Sanchez, have you ever seen the video of really tiny people or beings
55:54
video of really tiny people or beings
55:54
video of really tiny people or beings crossing roads? Not sure if they were
55:56
crossing roads? Not sure if they were
55:56
crossing roads? Not sure if they were even real? I I've seen I've seen some
56:00
even real? I I've seen I've seen some
56:00
even real? I I've seen I've seen some images. I mean, in some video,
56:02
images. I mean, in some video,
56:02
images. I mean, in some video, especially down from Hispanic America,
56:04
especially down from Hispanic America,
56:04
especially down from Hispanic America, down in South America in Central
56:06
down in South America in Central
56:06
down in South America in Central America.
56:09
America.
56:09
America. >> Hold on a second, folks. I'm sorry.
56:12
>> Hold on a second, folks. I'm sorry.
56:12
>> Hold on a second, folks. I'm sorry. >> Not sure if they were even real. I I've
56:14
>> Not sure if they were even real. I I've
56:14
>> Not sure if they were even real. I I've seen
56:18
Sorry about that.
56:25
This is my uh
56:29
blood sugar. Um, alarm just went off.
56:35
blood sugar. Um, alarm just went off.
56:35
blood sugar. Um, alarm just went off. Anyway, I hope that doesn't go off
56:36
Anyway, I hope that doesn't go off
56:36
Anyway, I hope that doesn't go off again.
56:38
again.
56:38
again. Anyway, sorry about that. Next question.
56:45
Paula asks, Lon, do you think elementals
56:48
Paula asks, Lon, do you think elementals
56:48
Paula asks, Lon, do you think elementals could account for any of these
56:50
could account for any of these
56:50
could account for any of these sightings? Yeah, I I I think it's
56:53
sightings? Yeah, I I I think it's
56:53
sightings? Yeah, I I I think it's possible. Um,
56:56
possible. Um,
56:56
possible. Um, yeah, it just I guess depends on what
56:58
yeah, it just I guess depends on what
56:58
yeah, it just I guess depends on what you consider to be elementals. I mean,
57:00
you consider to be elementals. I mean,
57:00
you consider to be elementals. I mean, you know, people have a lot of different
57:04
you know, people have a lot of different
57:04
you know, people have a lot of different descriptions or thoughts about what they
57:07
descriptions or thoughts about what they
57:07
descriptions or thoughts about what they really are,
57:08
really are,
57:08
really are, but um
57:11
but um
57:11
but um yeah, it's entirely possible. I mean,
57:13
yeah, it's entirely possible. I mean,
57:13
yeah, it's entirely possible. I mean, you know, I I you know, not
57:16
you know, I I you know, not
57:16
you know, I I you know, not specifically, I don't know, but you
57:18
specifically, I don't know, but you
57:18
specifically, I don't know, but you know, you hear about a lot of different
57:20
know, you hear about a lot of different
57:20
know, you hear about a lot of different things. I mean, you know,
57:22
things. I mean, you know,
57:22
things. I mean, you know, are little people or these these FA or
57:27
are little people or these these FA or
57:27
are little people or these these FA or others are they are they elementals?
57:29
others are they are they elementals?
57:29
others are they are they elementals? Could they be considered elementals?
57:31
Could they be considered elementals?
57:31
Could they be considered elementals? Could they be part of something that we
57:34
Could they be part of something that we
57:34
Could they be part of something that we just don't understand or really know
57:36
just don't understand or really know
57:36
just don't understand or really know about? It's hard to tell, but uh yeah, I
57:39
about? It's hard to tell, but uh yeah, I
57:39
about? It's hard to tell, but uh yeah, I mean, if you if you want a general
57:40
mean, if you if you want a general
57:40
mean, if you if you want a general answer, absolutely. I think it's
57:42
answer, absolutely. I think it's
57:42
answer, absolutely. I think it's possible.
57:46
Jose Sanchez, do you think that ancient
57:48
Jose Sanchez, do you think that ancient
57:48
Jose Sanchez, do you think that ancient Egyptians may have been very aware and
57:51
Egyptians may have been very aware and
57:51
Egyptians may have been very aware and maybe in contact with star beings? Oh,
57:53
maybe in contact with star beings? Oh,
57:53
maybe in contact with star beings? Oh, absolutely. I think I think a lot of um
57:57
absolutely. I think I think a lot of um
57:57
absolutely. I think I think a lot of um a lot of what is in their their lore and
58:01
a lot of what is in their their lore and
58:01
a lot of what is in their their lore and record possibly points toward
58:04
record possibly points toward
58:04
record possibly points toward involvement with extraterrestrials or
58:06
involvement with extraterrestrials or
58:06
involvement with extraterrestrials or other other worldly beings.
58:09
other other worldly beings.
58:09
other other worldly beings. I think it's entirely possible. I think
58:13
I think it's entirely possible. I think
58:13
I think it's entirely possible. I think I think most of what they uh had written
58:17
I think most of what they uh had written
58:17
I think most of what they uh had written about and made record of with their
58:19
about and made record of with their
58:19
about and made record of with their everyday life had some connection to
58:24
everyday life had some connection to
58:24
everyday life had some connection to these beings, these other worldly
58:26
these beings, these other worldly
58:26
these beings, these other worldly beings.
58:31
Rachel.
58:35
Oh, hi Rachel. I just talked to you
58:36
Oh, hi Rachel. I just talked to you
58:36
Oh, hi Rachel. I just talked to you today. Hi. We spoke about this today. Do
58:39
today. Hi. We spoke about this today. Do
58:39
today. Hi. We spoke about this today. Do you think many of these sightings are
58:41
you think many of these sightings are
58:41
you think many of these sightings are time slips or glimpses of other
58:43
time slips or glimpses of other
58:43
time slips or glimpses of other dimensions? Sure.
58:46
dimensions? Sure.
58:46
dimensions? Sure. Yeah, absolutely. It could very well
58:48
Yeah, absolutely. It could very well
58:48
Yeah, absolutely. It could very well could be. Um I've heard so many accounts
58:52
could be. Um I've heard so many accounts
58:52
could be. Um I've heard so many accounts about possible portals or time slips
58:55
about possible portals or time slips
58:55
about possible portals or time slips opening up
58:57
opening up
58:57
opening up and something unbelievable being seen
59:00
and something unbelievable being seen
59:00
and something unbelievable being seen and and quickly,
59:02
and and quickly,
59:02
and and quickly, you know, vanishing or even manifesting.
59:05
you know, vanishing or even manifesting.
59:05
you know, vanishing or even manifesting. So yeah, absolutely. It could be time
59:07
So yeah, absolutely. It could be time
59:07
So yeah, absolutely. It could be time slips, could be glitches.
59:13
Can squatch any Pennsylvania underground
59:15
Can squatch any Pennsylvania underground
59:15
Can squatch any Pennsylvania underground Sasquatch encounters?
59:21
Uh, offh hand. I can't think of any.
59:25
Uh, offh hand. I can't think of any.
59:26
Uh, offh hand. I can't think of any. I'm just trying to rack my brain. I
59:28
I'm just trying to rack my brain. I
59:28
I'm just trying to rack my brain. I don't think so. I that I can recall.
59:31
don't think so. I that I can recall.
59:31
don't think so. I that I can recall. That's an interesting question. I'll
59:32
That's an interesting question. I'll
59:32
That's an interesting question. I'll look. I'll look.
59:35
look. I'll look.
59:36
look. I'll look. get a lot of accounts out of
59:37
get a lot of accounts out of
59:37
get a lot of accounts out of Pennsylvania.
59:43
Anything else, folks?
59:49
Okay. Well, I want to thank each and all
59:50
Okay. Well, I want to thank each and all
59:50
Okay. Well, I want to thank each and all of you for uh watching and chatting. And
59:52
of you for uh watching and chatting. And
59:52
of you for uh watching and chatting. And if you donated, it's genuinely
59:54
if you donated, it's genuinely
59:54
if you donated, it's genuinely appreciated. Your support's what makes
59:56
appreciated. Your support's what makes
59:56
appreciated. Your support's what makes all this possible. So, please like,
59:57
all this possible. So, please like,
59:58
all this possible. So, please like, subscribe, and share. If you have a
1:00:00
subscribe, and share. If you have a
1:00:00
subscribe, and share. If you have a sighting or encounter report that you'd
1:00:02
sighting or encounter report that you'd
1:00:02
sighting or encounter report that you'd like to be considered for the this show
1:00:04
like to be considered for the this show
1:00:04
like to be considered for the this show or for the Phantoms of Monsters blog,
1:00:06
or for the Phantoms of Monsters blog,
1:00:06
or for the Phantoms of Monsters blog, just forward it to my email,
1:00:08
just forward it to my email,
1:00:08
just forward it to my email, lonstrickler at phantomsandmonsters.com.
1:00:12
I will say I I did send the Glimmer Man
1:00:15
I will say I I did send the Glimmer Man
1:00:15
I will say I I did send the Glimmer Man book off to the editor this week. So,
1:00:20
book off to the editor this week. So,
1:00:20
book off to the editor this week. So, uh, we'll see how that goes. And when
1:00:22
uh, we'll see how that goes. And when
1:00:22
uh, we'll see how that goes. And when that starts getting close to being
1:00:25
that starts getting close to being
1:00:25
that starts getting close to being released, I will definitely let
1:00:26
released, I will definitely let
1:00:26
released, I will definitely let everybody know about it. So until we
1:00:29
everybody know about it. So until we
1:00:29
everybody know about it. So until we meet again, stay healthy, safe, have a
1:00:32
meet again, stay healthy, safe, have a
1:00:32
meet again, stay healthy, safe, have a great weekend, and good night.
1:00:38
[Music]
1:00:38
[Music]
1:00:38
[Music] [Applause]
1:00:51
Heat.
1:01:09
Heat.
1:01:28
[Music]

DEEP EARTH HORRORS! From Vietnam to Appalachia: UNDERGROUND ANOMALIES & REPTILIAN ENCOUNTERS

phantomsandmonsters.com

LIVING GARGOYLES! Worldwide Encounters With Winged HumanoidsGOYLES

GARGOYLE SIGHTING NEAR TAMPA, FLORIDA!

GARGOYLE ENCOUNTER! Witness's Terrifying Backyard Incident!

Is HMV making a comeback in the age of Spotify? | Boardroom Uncovered

STRANGE HIGHWAYS | When The Roads Fight Back!

APPALACHIAN TERROR! Werewolves, White Bigfoot & Black Panthers | TRUE ACCOUNTS!

CREEPY CAMPING ENCOUNTERS: Terrifying Cryptid, Aliens & Paranormal Stalker Reports | LIVE Chat Q&A

Jon B's R&B Legacy: Tupac’s Last Verse, Michael Jackson’s Magical Call & Nas's Super Soul Bars

REPTILIAN HUMANOIDS EXPOSED: Shapeshifters, Abductions & Government Conspiracies | Real Reports!

Countries That Have Bought Territory From Other Countries

Ultimate Dinosaurs Exhibit at Discovery Place Science - Charlotte, NC

Saw: Legacy of Terror from Six Flags Magic Mountain Fright Fest

Up next in 10

DEEP EARTH HORRORS! From Vietnam to Appalachia: UNDERGROUND ANOMALIES & REPTILIAN ENCOUNTERS

phantomsandmonsters.com